SETI VS ALIM BEY FULL LECTURE PART 15

[AnytimeNigguh]

SALUTE TO THE GENERAL SARA SUTEN SETI AND PEACE TO THE GOD ALIM BEY!!! BOTH OF THEM BROTHERS WORK FOR THE UPLIFTMENT OF THE BLACK RACE!!!

[neda562]

IM GREATFUL TO HAVE BOTH THESE MEN IN MY EXSITANCE RATHER THEY DISAGREE OR NOT THATS BESIDE THE POINT FOR ME THIS WORLD IS ROOTED DUALITY (for example male and felmale) AND THE ONLY SUPREME BEING OR GOD IS THE ONES WHO CAN BRING THE TWO OPPOSING FORCES TOGETHER (for example only when a male and female come together can a child/life be created and a child represents innoccence) TO BENIFIT THEIR SPIRITUAL MENTAL AND PHYSICAL TRANSFORMATION NOBODY IS WRONG IF THE PATH LEADS TO RIGHTOUSNESS . .

[insanebeatjunkie]

Seti needs to put together a military and defense program while people such as Alim should put together the essentials of running a civilization. flat out

[maxilla100]

@fmefm THAT DA TRUTH!!!

[dizocb]

All I want to know is who fumbled the ball? our present condition is evident.

[derekholt109]

@dizocb The has been told.

[GMerc]

one word. PWNED. You figure out who.

[TheNobleMoor]

Law governs all events.

SETI is simply a tool to see, like the story of Noah, which fools will follow the blind fool, at laughing at the safe and sovereign Moor, then the Negro-slave will be carted away by the flood of ignorance. One day those saying black and African American will be sorry they followed a Seti. Even Set was the term meaning devil, death (sun-set).

[TheNobleMoor]

Law governs all events.

Black is a slave lable and never have been respected, as a people, so Alim is 1000% correct.

SETI is simply a tool to see, like the story of Noah, which fools will follow the blind fool, at laughing at the safe and sovereign Moor, then the Negro-slave will be carted away by the flood of ignorance. One day those saying black and African American will be sorry they followed a Seti. Even Set was the term meaning devil, death (sun-set).

[TheNobleMoor]

Alim  is correct.

[jamezthompson3]

Umm, umm, umm, umm... Truth is the truth, Seti owned! Alim is reachin'. No confidence and no facts. Astral projection?! What a joke.  Stay in reality.

[helixhair]

@jamezthompson3 Alim's speech impediment does not discredit the info he states. "Ummm" is a device he used to prevent getting into a stuttering track which, once started, often cannot be stopped for 10 minutes or more. I admire Alim for going forth knowing he has this speech impediment.

[kush11999]

our ways are not our own

[DeadCee]

white people will be the first ones to admit that they stole this country and killed the people. jus tno on tv. but if u know white people, which i do. they brag about it like its a joke. loook at their termanology. "indian giver" implying indians want their land back. as if they gave it. whch they didnt. they stole it

[firemarshall007]

so you dont think blacks selling drugs to each other played a factor? or black women tend to be a little loose on the sexual side. black women are known not to use condoms which is why they have so many kids oow

[GMerc]

@firemarshall007 Who taught the blacks to sell drugs to each other? Who creates the drugs and supplies them? Who destroyed the morals of the black women? who taught them to hate themselves? To hate everyone that looks like them? Who is responsible for removing the Female principle from religions so that the female no longer considers herself divine? Who Broke the spirit of all of these people????

[DeadCee]

lol damn deez niggas cant pronounce no words. but sall gravy, da message iz clear

[FayettenamVeteran71]

We gettin it!

Let's keep going!

Gone

[PFLAGGIRL]

You dont need a degree to be intelligent. A degree is actually just a peace a paper saying you were consistent with your whitemans education learning how to compromise in a whitemans world. I know a lot of intelliegent people who can out do a lot of people who has degrees and make more money, make more sense than those degree holding people

[girl123boy456]

when those attending the lecture can sit at their computers and freeze these documents and keep reading all that he is skipping over they would not be clapping.

we on youtube have an advantage over those who actually attended the lecture bcuz we can pause and read when we want to and get the whole information presented and not just the part being used to make the lecturers point.

[firemarshall007]

do either one of these niggas got degrees?

[Xmn32]

Give some type of respect brotha

[DeadCee]

@firemarshall007 yah they do. they got higher DEGREES of knowledge than a university or college can provide. =)

[firemarshall007]

tell me one thing these people have done for black people. afrocentrism is niggerish

[DeadCee]

@firemarshall007 your perspectives are from that of a white male who stands in defense. anything positive is good for us. especially at the state we r in currently. we are not free. and we haven't many outlets to express or learn truths. why downtalk this? and ur name is fire marshall? so wut u some kinda firefighter? hmm now i understand

[firemarshall007]

ok fine but what are these people accomplshing for black people? this is pointless

[DeadCee]

@firemarshall007 so everyone in the world is allowed to have lectures and debates? but people who want to find the worlds true history and the african americans past., aren't? did u forget that african amerivcan history is apuzzle with many missing pieces?

[firemarshall007]

it damn sure isnt this. this is bullshit rhetoric

[DeadCee]

@firemarshall007 well then, can u refer me to some informative stuff? since u feel this is bullshit.

[firemarshall007]

real african history written by respected scholars

[DeadCee]

@firemarshall007 lol white scholars? cmonnn mann seti was taught by scholars. black scholars

[firemarshall007]

a lot of what hes saying is wrong. the last time the continents were all together was 100s of millions of years ago. looong before humans existed.

[DeadCee]

@firemarshall007 i believe ur referring to the moorish perspective? i dont believe i heard seti refe rto any of that. i personally don't agree with most of what the moors are saying. the moors and the hebrews are attemping to navigate african americans away from being african. that takes away the significance of our continent. and our yearn and desire for it. I subsrcibe to Seti's train of thought. another question. if u disagree with their actions and the purpose of this video, why watch?

[firemarshall007]

put it to you like this. what has afrocentrism done for blacks since its existence? what are these two cats doing to help black people, other than talk on stage about supposed black history

[DeadCee]

@firemarshall007 afrocentricism, got some of us away from calling each other niggas, and had us callin each pother brothers, gods and goddesses. if u know the history of what the cia inflicted on us maybe u'd understand why we so lost right now. the children lost their parents last couple generations. so we're scattered mentally and psychologically. cmon man, im only 24, u should know this

[firemarshall007]

the cia didnt inflict anything on us. we did it to ourselves, then made up some bullshit story about the cia. afrocentrism is an opiate that doesnt offer solutions

[DeadCee]

@firemarshall007 lol, if its bullshit then why is it documented and also reported in the la times?cmonn now u cant dumb us down like that. do you not remember malcolm x, and martin, and th black panthers? we aint idiots. what happened that stopped those movements? do you believe it was just us being dumb? somethings missing

[firemarshall007]

who brought drugs into the black communities? BLACK GANGS

who brought aids into the black community? loose black women

[DeadCee]

@firemarshall007 who brought aids? i believe it was a whiteman searching a cure for his polio virus. why dont u watch the cbc documentary on it made by white people. so the whiteman admits to it. and who brought drugs to us? do we have the boats and planes it comes in on? as for putting money in the hands of poor black people. it was perhaps an easier task than in rich hoods. but it was the white man. and im beginning to suspect u aint even black but a muthafuckin white intruder

[xxxynghot1xxx]

@DeadCee Aids is the mutated leukemia gene that was made in a lab and was used as an experiment for vaccinations. I think I saw that somewhere in a video on youtube.

[NoRiddlez]

@firemarshall007

i disagree with that are you white?

[firemarshall007]

you disagree with what?

[NoRiddlez]

@firemarshall007

afrocentirsm with niggerish is an oxymoron

[firemarshall007]

afrocentricism is a selfcreated barrier to success. afrocentrism does not offer any solutions to any problems. if seti and alim bey actually cared about africa, they would be finding out ways to help all the starving people in africa. they dont care though

[daauthor1]

To me, at this point the lecture was over. Bey killed Seti with that Moor definition he received from Dr. Ben's book.

[herbaljunky]

bey lossed. he had some language manipulitive type skills. but seti brought forth concrete visual evidence. set 'the asiatic' was OWNED!

[JahariKavi]

Moors themselves had a variety of religious beliefs. The MSTA is not an orthodox islamic sect. They are a combination of Kemetic wisdom, buddhism (which can be traced back to black folks), rostricucianism (which can be traced back to black folks, islam (which can also be traced back to black people, especially considering that the prophet muhammed had african ancestry...this fact has been brought to the table by Runoko Rashidi and Cheinkh Anta Diop, our master teachers.

[9xxxxxxxxx]

I couldn't agree more there have never been a group of black people where we all had the same religion many Moors were Hebrew and were later sent to the island of Sao Thome as punishment for refusing to convert to christianity after the inquisition and many practiced there traditional religions or beliefs and like my uncles I am also sure many couldn't give a damn about any religion they chased pussy, fame & riches just like men today. Both brothers are very bright men with much knowledge.

[scizahands]

Thank you someone finally has told the truth. Fuck a Hamite, Israel made Mitsryam great! The Israelites were always kicking ass in the land of Ham. This Moore ain't shit he letting a Hamite wanna be crush his Moore bullshit/magic. Fuck magic I want the MOST HIGH to lift me up he weak cause the most high ain't with his weak ass 7 circle bullshit magic genii wanna be. Wake up Israel!

[KHENSU30]

DR MZY REVEALED THE FACT THAT WE HAVE WATERD DOWN DEGREES by addressing them all through the various schools bearing differnet names masterfully done as u can see this is what DR BEN TRY TO ACCOMPLISH and he outdid himself when he built tamare- egypt of the west

[DjeduDjehuti]

@KHENSU30 Right Wu Nuwapu!!!

[JahariKavi]

He constantly taught (especially in the Circle 7 Koran) for Black folks to remain apart from European society here in America. He empowered his people politically, socially, economically, spiritualy, culturally, etc. My problem is that Seti is treating this dude like he was some uncle tom, which isn't the case if you "really" study the MSTA from an unbiased perspective. You will see many cases where the "powers" were "against" Drew Ali and his followers.

[knowledgeblack2012]

"I'm a MUUR (Moor)...I know my roots...Africa is not our HOME, Africa as it is called today is our THRONE and from that throne, we ruled our home (Earth/Asia)...we are the Asiatics!!...

"Dr.Khallid Muhammad (Gathering Of The Masters--Millenium)

[gaou02]

you are an idiot !

[knowledgeblack2012]

LOL I find that really funny coming from a dude who favored the Allah in Pre-dynastic video...but this should bring you up to speed in terms of REAL know:

Khallid Muhammad, Afrika. & Nationality: watch?v=gUxf1Ss_FxM

[KHENSU30]

im a nubun now nubian a descendant of the original 9 ether creative forces who divnine seed flows through the true egiptains ethiopians who later dwindle down to being call muurs by foriegn men who use a foreign langauge to describe our color which was black but originaly olive green

[knowledgeblack2012]

And what is the spiritual meaning of Nubian? Im pretty sure that is a civilization not a nationality. Mu'ur means one of light that WERE the gods & goddess of this planet before we lost consciousness. There is NO separation between Muur/Moor, Nubian, Native, etc other than slave labels of Black, Afrikan, Indian, Latino etc. Black is metaphyical in meaning but it's not a physical skin color...it's impossible to be a lightskin black person. Olives come in shades of black and brown not just green.

[MrHolipsism]

I don't overstand why people consider this statement by Khalid to be such a damaging statement to Seti's position or the position of Pan Africanists. Seti's entire debate was directed at the Moorish Science Temple that was formed in 1913 and I'm sorry...that organization was not formed for the betterment of African/Black people.

[knowledgeblack2012]

I used that quote by Khallid to make a point in that he was one part of the Afrikan Liberation Trinity (as stated by Seti in part1) but also a Master Student under the Elijah Muhammad. Unless you have read the history of the Moorish Science Temple Movement and even the Ancient Egyptian Arabic Order that were both founded by ppl of the Ben Isma-El tribe, also studied & understand Politicial Slavery, Nationality, & Birthright, it's unintelliegent to assumes the MSTA has done nothing for Blacks.

[MrHolipsism]

Family, Christianity, Islam & the Moorish Science temple were not formed with our best interests at heart. The Brothas and Sistas who claim those faiths and religions are not the problem and should never be attacked, but...to act as if foreign people have not tried to usurp the Black Power Movement and our lineage to have us at war with each other instead of them is ridiculous. The debate itself is the proof of this.

[knowledgeblack2012]

Christianity religion was created for the Cracka & the Islam religion was created for the Arab to civilize them..but that doesnt mean we throw out Bible & Qur'an or disassiate ourselves just becuz it has the word Christianity or Islam in it...u spooked out by words now? That's why Noble Drew ali said to study Etymology. If anything, the MSTA was set-up to combat the White Supremacy Economic-Political System by gettin out of 14th amendment contracts & getting back to our government structure.

[JahariKavi]

because he gets offended by the term asiatic moor, yet the brother who he dedicated his speech to called himself an asiatic moor....

[JahariKavi]

EXACTLY...this brother seti dedicated his speech to Khallid, yet Khallid would agree with Alim Bey, lol........ironic........

[MrHolipsism]

No, he would not. As usual people are trying to blur the line and argue points no one has even debated. Seti maintains that the Moorish Science Temple has NOTHING to do with the Ancient Moors. If you say we are MOORS and you are referring to the ancient Moors who were orthodox Muslims and who DID NOT read the Circle 7 then no one would disagree with you. So Khlalid would be on Seti's side and Alim basically backed it up with everything he presented and didn't even address the organization (1913)

[JahariKavi]

First off we must understand the background in which Khallid was coming from which was N.O.I. which wouldn't even exist if not for the Moorish Science Temple. I've seen speeches where Khallid has made references to Drew Ali and his teachings, so I think you should get your facts straight. As far as the MSTA itself is concerned, I honestly don't see why Seti feels the need to blast them so hard. I mean Ali was responsible for uplifting a lot of African people here in America.

[Easiderz]

@knowledgeblack2012 Are you saying that what is now called Africa is where you are from? 

[eazydee415]

@knowledgeblack2012 Shut up