@tobeh79 You are right, basically what Russell was saying is that most people choose to believe what they believe in because it is convenient for them.
@cnmaster01 I don't know. I like Nietzsche because, I think, he is important for some christians, like me, when he says about the other world, this perfect world could exist or not, but focus in this world and forget the earthly life is foolish. If there is a God, I ask him this words could guide my life. Russell said wisely words. Don't you agree?
How ironic that there are rude comments here given the message he was delivering. The fact that it is 60 years after this was taped, and not 1000 years, does not change the value of the message. Apparently, 15 people think love is NOT wise and hatred is NOT foolish.
Message to morons, this was filmed no more than 60 years ago, the question was what would you say to your descendants 1000 years in the future, not what would you say to your children.
@tjmac7 Hatred evolved under the old evolutionary paradigms where we had to conduct ourselves in a manner which was conducive to our attaining more resources, territory and shelter. That kind of impulse need not rule us in a world where science and technology have provided us with enough to feed and clothe every living being - as well as seeing they live a healthy life, receive a decent education etc.
@lordhaku - If hate was conducive to us attaining resources and need not exist in a world where science and technology provide for us then love also need not exist. As such, regarding evolution, neither emotion is superior to the other and a world of advanced technology and adequate resources is a world where emotion becomes redundant.
@tjmac7 I think what Russell was referring to as "love" was co-dependency; communication; shared understanding; compromise etc. His message, as I see it, was that we should do our best to move away from war, greed, nationalism and similar impulses and instead move towards a world where, while we might disagree with one another, we needn't nuke one another to pieces in a bid to "resolve" such disagreements.
@lordhaku (apologies for carrying this on) I suppose you're right in saying that if such a level of resources exist, then "love" is as redundant as "hatred", given that each being could provide for themselves having neither to rely on another being's care, nor prey on their product and resources for their own gain. Both such motives disappear. But, as Russell saw it, the world in which we live requires we mitigate the latter and move towards the former.
That is is the dumbest thing i have heard a philosopher say. Science is concerned with facts and philosophy with values. I guess that is what happens when one is immersed in analytic philosophy--one becomes a robot.
"What the hell to I care how many carbons are in Jupiter; I'm concerned about human justice." Sartre
All power to science, but when it comes to living life then existential philosophers are worthy of a read, and they, too, are not to be read as doctrinaires.
@gator153 Science and philosophy can be merged together, values should be based on empirical facts, not the subjective thoughts of someone. I think you interpreted his point wrong. Your point was devalued from the start, anyone that implies that Bertrand Russell is in any way "dumb" is clearly the type of person that he was talking about, he disagree's with you so you call him names and ignore him. I like existential philosophy, but I respect Russell for the genius he was.
....never let yourself be diverted either by what you would wish to believe or by what you think would have beneficent social effects if it were believed, but look only and solely at what are the facts...
@ham1357ham if you look at the top section for "Uploader Comments" the poster has written that in. "....never let yourself be diverted either by what you would wish to believe or by what you think would have beneficent social effects if it were believed, but look only and solely at what are the facts..."
@ham1357ham "Never let yourself be diverted, either by what you wish to believe, or by what you think would have beneficent social effects if it were believe, but look only and solely at what are the facts."
Such an extraordinary man! If only the world was wise to listen to him, we would have long ago discarded religions and superstitions! I call upon all reasoning men and women to this most noble endeavor of rationalism and logical thinking. Only then, there will be no end of human prosperity and happiness. Religion actually demoralize people. It advocates slavery of human mind, which is the main reason of our suffering and never ending wars!!
"In this world, which is getting more and more closely interconnected" We have never been more connected to each other at any other point in history than now. Since the mainstream useage of the Internet humans are able to communicate to anyone on this planet. I hope all you realize we are living in a pivotal moment in time. We have advance so far in such little time. I hope I am alive when flying cars, moon colonization, and robots are being mass produced like Fords in the early 1900's.
@IO23777 .. and they should be aware of historical context. During the age of science pre-WW2 it was quite popular for liberal thinkers (see: scientifically minded folk) to suggest ways to improve mankind through logic. Nietzschean philosophy wasn't only popular with a couple of the Nazi brass who happened to hoodwink an entire country, it was generally thought of as a post-religion view of humanity.
Interestingly we've seen most of their visions played out in contraceptive pills and abortions.
@sphoney The Post Marxist social engineers of later day Britain seem to have gone for a worse approach The grotesqueries of 'Multiculturalism' include the legal indifference to female genital mutilation amongst our Islamic community, several thousand cases - no prosecutions. Egregious injustices of all kinds are ignored for the sake of an enforced Liberal ethos by people convinced they are doing the right thing by society at large. Next to this Russell's ideas may seem to be light relief
@IO23777 Russell's ideas were purely scientific, that was the only point I was making.
He was a logician in an age where logic and reason were overthrowing previous modes of thought. In a purely logical society eugenics has clear advantages.. in fact it's hard to find a logical case against it. He'd not have accepted it in the hands of the state, I don't think; Hitler's regime was the one thing he would war against "war is always evil, but in some rare cases it may be the lesser of two."
The closing advice of one of the finest and most beautiful minds, certainly of the 20th Century, possibly of all time, and people immediately fly right in the face of it to call Charlie Brooker a twat... that's a real shame.
If he had any hand in your coming to this video he can't be all that hateful. Seemed to me he only ever held a light up to how demoralising, narrow, and hateful, entertainment had become.
Fat chance, chum. People would rather throw shit at each other. In fact I've reluctantly come to the conclusion most humans are barely even conscious at all.
Dislike him all you like, but "hateful"? Really? You need to fucking relax and then get out more if you really think Charlie sodding Brooker counts as "hateful". Jeez.
Wow, how eerie. To actually BE the descendant, he was imagining. Here we are watching this wonderfull man over the open public forum of U-Tube. How delighted he would have been to see this marvel. Yes, and through this open public forum, we begin to see the demise of wickedness, dictators, self-delusion and religion, due to increased availability of FREE uncensored information. How this lovely old man would have clapped his hands.We see you old man . . . . we see you .
@evidenceonlythanx That's wishful, I think he'd be so horrified at the spectacle of Yube comment sections that he'd probably shit himself. These sections are like a microcosm of our dirty society - hate outweighs love tenfold, what's here for him to actually enjoy? Nobody's listened to him, clearly.
@evidenceonlythanx Do you really believe that wickedness and self-delusion are in the demise? It seems only a thoroughly deluded person could say something like that. Surely our time is the time of general hatred and unconcern with correct thinking. In my view this makes Russell's comment even more poignant, he saw it coming and we did nothing to prevent it.
He was wrong about tolerating each other. Btw strong altruism is not an evolutionarily stable strategy (Maynard Smith and Price 1973; David S. Wilson 1975; Ben Cooper and Chris Wallace 2001).
The problem is his moral solution only works if everyone else is doing it. One violent person amongst a world of pacifists has the world as his oyster.
@OhManTFE I think he means on a personal level - in your own life. For example if someone picks a fight with you after an argument, instead of fuelling the fight, perhaps assume there was a genuine misunderstanding, put your ego aside and have kind feelings for that person and defuse the situation, rather than make it worse by separating them from you and forming hate for them. Easier said than done
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How profound... no... wait... how utterly fucking simple and cliche'. A five year old could have come up with that trite. Back to the home with you Bert, you've lost your edge.
@KINGSHITTHROAT Too deep for a simpleton like you? I hope you die, because you said something I don't like, and I cannot learn a kind of charity and a kind of toler-
Wait a minute... I retract. You still appear stupid, though.
@marcusaureliooze and also ( i ran out of characters), maybe he/she meant 'tripe'. Then again it isn't that, because it's not nonsense, it's just slightly obvious.
@KINGSHITTHROAT I think a 5 year old couldn't, but maybe a 10 year old. But I agree it is a little cliche, if you like non-cliche stuff that's hard to understand, look up Wittgenstein. He said stuff like "Death is not an event in life: we do not live to experience death. If we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those who live in the present." (Yes I did copy and paste it in case you're wondering, I dont claim to have that memorised
@KINGSHITTHROAT hey, no....i am totally relaxed. and i am very tolerant. it's just that you are indeed a 'pretentious fucktard'. i have tried to put it as mildly as possible.
@pussy_pee Thank you, I tolerate your internet tough guy act and hope it serves you well in the future. Although, I'm sure your tone would change if we were face to face, it usually does.
@KINGSHITTHROAT The peaceful fans of Lord Russell got stuck into you didn't they?The hypocritical replies proved your point,Russell's message is infantile.I've been,and remain, a great admirer of Russell-I wrote a thesis on his ontological philosophy 'neutral monism'-but I've always thought he had an absurdly simple view of Human interaction.I'm very glad that he wrote his 'History of Western Philosophy',yet I'm aware that he wrote it in America after fleeing from England during WW2.
The distinction of the intellectual from the moral is very important here. Without it, Russell speaks a contradiction, with it, he speaks very wisely.
I used to sincerally have a severe dislike for old people. This man has proved that not only can old people be very wise, they can also kick fucking ass!
@gespilk That's no excuse not to do it. The people who say "someone else will do it" are the reasons there isn't universal love. The message is personal. Worry about making yourself better, not what others are doing.
@gespilk I don't think Russell was saying that there ever could be universal love or even that it would be desirable. There will always be violence and people will break rules. Greedy people, cruel people, rude people. Also kind people, honest people, polite people. It's just the way we humans are. It would be helpful for the long term survival of our species if we could learn to get a long a little bit better though, don't you think? Probably make life a bit more pleasant for everyone too.
When resources are limited (and ultimately they are) "the getting along" would not work.
"Resources" means anything from global energy supply to "less parachutes for more passengers"or "less jobs-many more candidates" or "less hot chicks - more suitors" or "few M&Ms-many children" or "many people -one planet" etc.
Ultimately in the absence of resources all cooperation behaviours are doomed.
So, "get along" while you can to position yourself better for the inevitable competition.
@gespilk Most of this limitation of resources is often artificial: time is truly the one that is absolutely limited, alone. Limited resources does not necessarily (it is sufficient, of course) lead to fighting: perhaps instead we could work to improve technology to created substitute resources (ex. moving towards solar panels for energy, which is practically limitless, away from fossil fuels).
He just had 4 children. Right? How could he possibly be eugenicist. The real eugenicist have like 8+ children. Right?
I am failed Eugenicist because I can not find mating partners. It is very stressful and depressing. Every time I say to someone that I want a us to have a baby together they look at me as if I am crazy. At the same time they go and mate with people that are often inferior to me intellectuality, physicality and genetically.
I think by fact...or my opinion of fact...sometimes we want to believe things because believing the other way is either terrible, or goes against what we've always held dear to our hearts. We have to look at the facts, even if they are seemingly negative to us.
Does the mutable nature of scientific knowledge paralyze you in daily life? No? Then apply the same decision-making methods you use in mundane life to your questions, and do the best you can with the information you have.
BTW...we must learn to tolerate and like each other even if we don't like what the other person says...just saying...maybe they think he's a worthless cunt but you have to learn to tolerate and love that person or we all die in a nuclear holocaust.
After watching this video, I would like to know what a "fact" is. There are scientific theories and laws, but which would be considered facts? Also, is finding the "truth that the facts bear out" possible by human beings? How can we identify the absolute truth, and are there varying degrees of truth?
@withlovetacy I think facts in the sense of observable facts. That's how all sciences function. They observe facts and make inferences. So the laws and theories are just inferences based on observing facts. I.e. when i let go of my apple it drops toward the earth. = observable fact. and gravity = an inference.
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Point a: facts don't exist.
Point b: love is wise, but tolleration doesn't exist, it's an acceptance of something that you tend to dislike. Understanding would be a far better concept.
More often than not apparent "facts" are creations of our wishes and beliefs. What we need to learn is to see the agendas behind "facts", rather than see them as the view from nowhere.
@l33tpwnzord What I'm saying is that things that come to be true come to be true under certain circumstances, often circumstances supporting specific social conditions. To claim that those truths are in place simply because they correspond to the surrounding environment is foolish and politically harmful.
How is it conflicting? He said believe in the facts regardless of what you wish they were, and to love and tolerate one another so we can move forward as a society. What part of that is conflicting?
If you must lie or go against the facts to love, then it is not love. I believe so, anyway. Because Love is such a vague term, this particular argument could go on for eternity
I think this is the field for reasonable and intellectual men not for any religious fools who think religion as some kind of supernatural thing and put that above all things
So He agrees with Christ's words then? but he is totally inaccurate in His understanding of Christianity. Christianity is a supernatural present continuous experience. His understanding of Religion seems to be limited to obedience to a set of rules.
@maw777maw Dude, I don't know who you think you are, but you've got a big pair of balls to to say his understanding is limited?? At least he's not indulging in wishful thinking. . . . . . .
and they say non believers have no morals!
slye1991 2 weeks ago
Who says that, got a quote?
TwoMunchuTwo 2 weeks ago
Love is wise and hatred is foolish.
tobeh79 3 weeks ago
@ambush77 I do hope your being sarcastic, for your own sake.
SinceretheGhost 4 weeks ago
this guy is piece of shit...horrible human..
ambush77 4 weeks ago
Except for tolerance to stupidity. NEVER tolerate stupidity or willful ignorance.
LucasI3434 1 month ago 2
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OttoLund 1 month ago
Words that have more relevence today than when he said it, especially when he talked of a more interconnecting world.
BloggerMusicMan 2 months ago
I think that atheism should not use these men... like Bertrand, Nietzsche among others to justify its thoughts.
tobeh79 2 months ago
@tobeh79 You are right, basically what Russell was saying is that most people choose to believe what they believe in because it is convenient for them.
WheresMyElefant 1 month ago
@tobeh79 I'll give you Nietzsche, but why shouldn't an atheist listen to one of, if not, the wisest men of the 20th century?
cnmaster01 1 month ago
@cnmaster01 I don't know. I like Nietzsche because, I think, he is important for some christians, like me, when he says about the other world, this perfect world could exist or not, but focus in this world and forget the earthly life is foolish. If there is a God, I ask him this words could guide my life. Russell said wisely words. Don't you agree?
Sorry for my English, I am learning... :)
tobeh79 1 month ago
its people like this that make me sad there's no heaven:(
MArtinezNINux 2 months ago
And yet most people still don't follow his advice.
SkepticThink 3 months ago
Can someone tell me what he says in 0:51 ? when he says "Or what you think would happen if..."
oznerflexo 3 months ago
@oznerflexo He says, "or by what you think would have beneficent social effects if it were believed."
HerlockSholmes123 2 months ago
How ironic that there are rude comments here given the message he was delivering. The fact that it is 60 years after this was taped, and not 1000 years, does not change the value of the message. Apparently, 15 people think love is NOT wise and hatred is NOT foolish.
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another case
reel1840 5 months ago
wize humor
reel1840 5 months ago
Message to morons, this was filmed no more than 60 years ago, the question was what would you say to your descendants 1000 years in the future, not what would you say to your children.
tjmac7 5 months ago
@tjmac7
Yes, because his advice to us was "but for now, continue hating, and don't bother with facts."
I think it's obvious his advice was universal for all people and all times.
superhamzah85 3 months ago
If Darth Sidious was a Jedi...
bbrook154 5 months ago 4
did he not call a preemptive nuke strike on russia, based on projected fear ?
MrTobybuddy 5 months ago
@MrTobybuddy - he never said he believed all that bullshit, he just said thats what he'd tell 'em.
tjmac7 5 months ago
Love is wise, hatred is foolish. Truer words have never been uttered
nathfrancis01 5 months ago
@nathfrancis01 - so how did hatred evolve and why is love considered a superior emotion?
tjmac7 5 months ago
@tjmac7 Hatred evolved under the old evolutionary paradigms where we had to conduct ourselves in a manner which was conducive to our attaining more resources, territory and shelter. That kind of impulse need not rule us in a world where science and technology have provided us with enough to feed and clothe every living being - as well as seeing they live a healthy life, receive a decent education etc.
lordhaku 2 months ago
@lordhaku - If hate was conducive to us attaining resources and need not exist in a world where science and technology provide for us then love also need not exist. As such, regarding evolution, neither emotion is superior to the other and a world of advanced technology and adequate resources is a world where emotion becomes redundant.
tjmac7 2 months ago
@tjmac7 I think what Russell was referring to as "love" was co-dependency; communication; shared understanding; compromise etc. His message, as I see it, was that we should do our best to move away from war, greed, nationalism and similar impulses and instead move towards a world where, while we might disagree with one another, we needn't nuke one another to pieces in a bid to "resolve" such disagreements.
lordhaku 2 months ago 2
@lordhaku You are right, I like to think of it as a political and sociological quote
WheresMyElefant 1 month ago
@lordhaku (apologies for carrying this on) I suppose you're right in saying that if such a level of resources exist, then "love" is as redundant as "hatred", given that each being could provide for themselves having neither to rely on another being's care, nor prey on their product and resources for their own gain. Both such motives disappear. But, as Russell saw it, the world in which we live requires we mitigate the latter and move towards the former.
lordhaku 2 months ago
God knows this.
luminositymusic 6 months ago
@luminositymusic hm?
BenjaminKuruga 4 months ago
He would have been so disappointed.
choongd 6 months ago
This man is a friggin genius..
strobe74 6 months ago
Listen to this while listening to Golden Sky by God is an Astronaut
beccaaa346 6 months ago
Oh if only it were as easily done as said. I'll have to rate this video amongst my favorites. Thank You.
ABRARKHANISM 6 months ago
That is is the dumbest thing i have heard a philosopher say. Science is concerned with facts and philosophy with values. I guess that is what happens when one is immersed in analytic philosophy--one becomes a robot.
"What the hell to I care how many carbons are in Jupiter; I'm concerned about human justice." Sartre
All power to science, but when it comes to living life then existential philosophers are worthy of a read, and they, too, are not to be read as doctrinaires.
gator153 6 months ago
@gator153 Science and philosophy can be merged together, values should be based on empirical facts, not the subjective thoughts of someone. I think you interpreted his point wrong. Your point was devalued from the start, anyone that implies that Bertrand Russell is in any way "dumb" is clearly the type of person that he was talking about, he disagree's with you so you call him names and ignore him. I like existential philosophy, but I respect Russell for the genius he was.
rimfa123 4 months ago
Brilliant.
TheR0tter 6 months ago
....never let yourself be diverted either by what you would wish to believe or by what you think would have beneficent social effects if it were believed, but look only and solely at what are the facts...
TwoMunchuTwo 6 months ago 57
Guys i dont understand one part of his words (literary can not hear it)
dont let yourself be distracted by one what you wish to believe and .....(?).........
can somebody type that up plz
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LilDrummerBoy74 6 months ago
@ham1357ham "Never let yourself be diverted, either by what you wish to believe, or by what you think would have beneficent social effects if it were believe, but look only and solely at what are the facts."
pman5595 6 months ago
HOW CAN ANYONE DISLIKE THIS??????
DeMause 6 months ago
this man is a true , atheist saint. I relay needed to hear this dtoday.
thanx B.R. will never know how much you helped today.
st george carlin,
st.
Bernard Russell.
I no longer feel so alone.
zencat999 6 months ago
Wow!....... Gosh!........ it`s like apes contemplating the dawning sun! Each and every one of you would be put on his Sub-list!..........
georgemae68 7 months ago
I want that quote on a t-shirt.
WaltonSauce 7 months ago
13 people are Christians
Rayrraff 7 months ago
@Rayrraff And?
CapitalFunkhouse 5 months ago
13 people are christians
Rayrraff 7 months ago
Such an extraordinary man! If only the world was wise to listen to him, we would have long ago discarded religions and superstitions! I call upon all reasoning men and women to this most noble endeavor of rationalism and logical thinking. Only then, there will be no end of human prosperity and happiness. Religion actually demoralize people. It advocates slavery of human mind, which is the main reason of our suffering and never ending wars!!
lachezar43 7 months ago 3
What an amazingly wise man.
theGroveMan 7 months ago
"In this world, which is getting more and more closely interconnected" We have never been more connected to each other at any other point in history than now. Since the mainstream useage of the Internet humans are able to communicate to anyone on this planet. I hope all you realize we are living in a pivotal moment in time. We have advance so far in such little time. I hope I am alive when flying cars, moon colonization, and robots are being mass produced like Fords in the early 1900's.
voirdire 7 months ago
true facts brah
Clinton0707 7 months ago
I hear you
Kelsey4Drew 7 months ago
People need to be wary of the proscribed liberal heroes that are offered them - this one was a keen eugenicist.
IO23777 7 months ago
@IO23777 so what? Life isn't a Hollywood Western with white hats and black hats. We take what is good about someone and leave the rest.
rg0057 7 months ago
@IO23777 .. and they should be aware of historical context. During the age of science pre-WW2 it was quite popular for liberal thinkers (see: scientifically minded folk) to suggest ways to improve mankind through logic. Nietzschean philosophy wasn't only popular with a couple of the Nazi brass who happened to hoodwink an entire country, it was generally thought of as a post-religion view of humanity.
Interestingly we've seen most of their visions played out in contraceptive pills and abortions.
sphoney 7 months ago
@sphoney The Post Marxist social engineers of later day Britain seem to have gone for a worse approach The grotesqueries of 'Multiculturalism' include the legal indifference to female genital mutilation amongst our Islamic community, several thousand cases - no prosecutions. Egregious injustices of all kinds are ignored for the sake of an enforced Liberal ethos by people convinced they are doing the right thing by society at large. Next to this Russell's ideas may seem to be light relief
IO23777 7 months ago
@IO23777 Russell's ideas were purely scientific, that was the only point I was making.
He was a logician in an age where logic and reason were overthrowing previous modes of thought. In a purely logical society eugenics has clear advantages.. in fact it's hard to find a logical case against it. He'd not have accepted it in the hands of the state, I don't think; Hitler's regime was the one thing he would war against "war is always evil, but in some rare cases it may be the lesser of two."
sphoney 7 months ago
The closing advice of one of the finest and most beautiful minds, certainly of the 20th Century, possibly of all time, and people immediately fly right in the face of it to call Charlie Brooker a twat... that's a real shame.
If he had any hand in your coming to this video he can't be all that hateful. Seemed to me he only ever held a light up to how demoralising, narrow, and hateful, entertainment had become.
Thanks for uploading this. Here's a heart <3
sphoney 7 months ago 7
Fat chance, chum. People would rather throw shit at each other. In fact I've reluctantly come to the conclusion most humans are barely even conscious at all.
badnewswade 7 months ago
Professor Yaffle FTW.
refusenik1 7 months ago
Why does Rebecca Black come up as a similar video??
SiouxHogg 7 months ago
@SiouxHogg
Obviously she's the Bertrand Russell for 2011.
richarddsfar 7 months ago
@richarddsfar Perhaps Friday is played constantly at the humanist disco
SiouxHogg 7 months ago 2
@vickyduncalf7 I wouldn't say Charlie Brooker was a twat. I would say that he probably hates you though.
ChanMeisterGeneral 7 months ago
@ChanMeisterGeneral I doubt he'd be bothered tbh.
AtomicHorror 7 months ago
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And I can't abide Brooker because he is such a hateful twat
VickyDuncalf 7 months ago
@VickyDuncalf
Dislike him all you like, but "hateful"? Really? You need to fucking relax and then get out more if you really think Charlie sodding Brooker counts as "hateful". Jeez.
richarddsfar 7 months ago 3
charlie brooker sent me here.....
AwkwardJellyfish 7 months ago 10
What a dude.
In my present state, that's the highest praise I could bestow. Such a dude. Also, loving the eksent, doh-nt' you knohw..
Ttoby89 7 months ago
Wow, how eerie. To actually BE the descendant, he was imagining. Here we are watching this wonderfull man over the open public forum of U-Tube. How delighted he would have been to see this marvel. Yes, and through this open public forum, we begin to see the demise of wickedness, dictators, self-delusion and religion, due to increased availability of FREE uncensored information. How this lovely old man would have clapped his hands.We see you old man . . . . we see you .
evidenceonlythanx 8 months ago 131
@evidenceonlythanx That's wishful, I think he'd be so horrified at the spectacle of Yube comment sections that he'd probably shit himself. These sections are like a microcosm of our dirty society - hate outweighs love tenfold, what's here for him to actually enjoy? Nobody's listened to him, clearly.
MattCSwindon 7 months ago
@evidenceonlythanx You have an excellent mind. Go to Oxford
bobdy9988 7 months ago
@evidenceonlythanx Do you really believe that wickedness and self-delusion are in the demise? It seems only a thoroughly deluded person could say something like that. Surely our time is the time of general hatred and unconcern with correct thinking. In my view this makes Russell's comment even more poignant, he saw it coming and we did nothing to prevent it.
jezmuff 7 months ago
@jezmuff
You are mistaking increased awareness for an increasing trend.
superhamzah85 7 months ago
@evidenceonlythanx But when you look solely at the facts, none of that matters.
mowingthefrontlawn 6 months ago
After listening to these beautiful words I looked to the suggestion list to see Rebecca Black's "Friday."
Fuck youtube.
djk102391 8 months ago 64
@djk102391 at least it wasn't horse outside.
StrawberryScream179 5 months ago
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He was wrong about tolerating each other. Btw strong altruism is not an evolutionarily stable strategy (Maynard Smith and Price 1973; David S. Wilson 1975; Ben Cooper and Chris Wallace 2001).
WarmongerWW3 8 months ago
What are the facts? 1. Something cannot come from nothing. 2. Some men believe that something came from nothing. 3. Some men choose faith over facts
dodgerboy86 8 months ago
@dodgerboy86 Watch A universe from nothing by Lawrence krauss
oneofgodsfrozenpeopl 8 months ago 5
@dodgerboy86 Don't make everything about religion and your anti-religious preachings. It makes you no better than the Bible nuts.
andrewtheincredible 7 months ago
this is very intelligent. always the facts
narenwilly 8 months ago
He is the oldest Scientist when he died his age was 97 years old
gyzer45 8 months ago
"Can someone tell the housekeeper to turn the damn vacuum cleaner off? At least until our interview is over?"
dannyboylee 8 months ago
Arguing over the words rather than listening to them does not bring a solution. Good day!
hihowdigut 8 months ago
what a great man, what great sentiments, down to earth, rational, eloquent and relevant...yes this definitely needs to be seen by more people...
skwijeebob1 8 months ago
That is what I call real philosophical wisdom. Well said, Mr. Russell.
elarrebat 8 months ago
this needs more views.
FatTonyCologino 8 months ago
Such a smart man but still subjective.
MegaMG0 9 months ago
great advise!
Carameltrade 9 months ago
if only we had PEOPLE that were LIKE THIS MAN IN CONGRESS, we might actually get somewhere
wqurbanyahoocom 9 months ago 3
@wqurbanyahoocom Except for the fact that he was a socialist.
cardinalsfan242424 9 months ago
@cardinalsfan242424
ah. THAT i didn't know
wqurbanyahoocom 9 months ago
@wqurbanyahoocom Unfortunately these kinds of people are the ones who try to avoid Congress at all costs. ;)
Emanresu56 8 months ago
he is definitely not a big fan of counter-factual philosophy then.....
lamestguyintown 9 months ago
The problem is his moral solution only works if everyone else is doing it. One violent person amongst a world of pacifists has the world as his oyster.
OhManTFE 9 months ago
@OhManTFE
"never let yourself be diverted...by what you think would have beneficial social effects if it were believed"
affablegiraffable 9 months ago
@affablegiraffable That does not apply.
OhManTFE 9 months ago
@OhManTFE lol
affablegiraffable 9 months ago
@OhManTFE I think he means on a personal level - in your own life. For example if someone picks a fight with you after an argument, instead of fuelling the fight, perhaps assume there was a genuine misunderstanding, put your ego aside and have kind feelings for that person and defuse the situation, rather than make it worse by separating them from you and forming hate for them. Easier said than done
sidewinderxx 9 months ago
MAESTRO!!
cronicadelojo 9 months ago
I love listening to this very smart old man!!
With regard to justifying belief, I have caught myself, doing the things he advises against, this very day. He knew human frailty well!
Tobytrim 9 months ago
its just perfect...from this only peace and truth will come...perfect :)
jackofeet1000 10 months ago
8 people don't like back and white videos
6u6u7o 10 months ago 2
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How profound... no... wait... how utterly fucking simple and cliche'. A five year old could have come up with that trite. Back to the home with you Bert, you've lost your edge.
KINGSHITTHROAT 10 months ago
@KINGSHITTHROAT Too deep for a simpleton like you? I hope you die, because you said something I don't like, and I cannot learn a kind of charity and a kind of toler-
Wait a minute... I retract. You still appear stupid, though.
PS. 'Trite' is an adjective, you foolish.
marcusaureliooze 10 months ago
@marcusaureliooze Who gives a shit what you think?
KINGSHITTHROAT 10 months ago
@KINGSHITTHROAT anyone who is a fan of bertrand russell.
larstait 10 months ago
@larstait Fans of Bertrand Russell give a shit what marcusaureliooze thinks? Really? Mind your business.
KINGSHITTHROAT 10 months ago
@marcusaureliooze and also ( i ran out of characters), maybe he/she meant 'tripe'. Then again it isn't that, because it's not nonsense, it's just slightly obvious.
qpwo6 10 months ago
@marcusaureliooze
You obviously missed Russell's message.
"Hatred is foolish"
ExtremeBogom 9 months ago 4
@KINGSHITTHROAT I think a 5 year old couldn't, but maybe a 10 year old. But I agree it is a little cliche, if you like non-cliche stuff that's hard to understand, look up Wittgenstein. He said stuff like "Death is not an event in life: we do not live to experience death. If we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those who live in the present." (Yes I did copy and paste it in case you're wondering, I dont claim to have that memorised
qpwo6 10 months ago
@KINGSHITTHROAT
It doesn't matter how simple this is. It's simple and to the point.
In fact, this is a good thing, so that younger viewers (the future essentially) can understand.
There is no need for extremely elaborate thought here...
Why are you so bitter?
ExtremeBogom 9 months ago
@ExtremeBogom Do you need someone to tell you to eat and breathe too?
KINGSHITTHROAT 9 months ago
@KINGSHITTHROAT
Oh stop it.
ExtremeBogom 9 months ago
@KINGSHITTHROAT Trololololololololololololololol
amsd1231 8 months ago
@KINGSHITTHROAT that's why he said 'it's simple' you pretentious fucktard!!
psspeed 8 months ago
@psspeed At least from this comment, I can tell how you have taken his "simple" message to heart. Lol. You seem very tolerant.
KINGSHITTHROAT 8 months ago
@KINGSHITTHROAT hey, no....i am totally relaxed. and i am very tolerant. it's just that you are indeed a 'pretentious fucktard'. i have tried to put it as mildly as possible.
psspeed 8 months ago
@pussy_pee Thank you, I tolerate your internet tough guy act and hope it serves you well in the future. Although, I'm sure your tone would change if we were face to face, it usually does.
KINGSHITTHROAT 8 months ago
@fucktard dude, i am not tough, not even on internet. i am just stating a fact. even if you are a professional boxer, the truth is still the truth!!
psspeed 8 months ago
@pissypants Good Day Sir!
KINGSHITTHROAT 8 months ago
@KINGSHITTHROAT 'pissy pants'...hahaha......good one! pleasure talking to you.... good day!!
psspeed 8 months ago
@KINGSHITTHROAT The peaceful fans of Lord Russell got stuck into you didn't they?The hypocritical replies proved your point,Russell's message is infantile.I've been,and remain, a great admirer of Russell-I wrote a thesis on his ontological philosophy 'neutral monism'-but I've always thought he had an absurdly simple view of Human interaction.I'm very glad that he wrote his 'History of Western Philosophy',yet I'm aware that he wrote it in America after fleeing from England during WW2.
henryporter101 7 months ago
The distinction of the intellectual from the moral is very important here. Without it, Russell speaks a contradiction, with it, he speaks very wisely.
Chefodeath 10 months ago
Very well said. I concur.
TzerMaan 10 months ago
1. Intellectual.
2. Moral.
8644371 10 months ago
well said.
angry1278 10 months ago
I used to sincerally have a severe dislike for old people. This man has proved that not only can old people be very wise, they can also kick fucking ass!
MansonFan64 10 months ago
@MansonFan64 It was only later that we found out he was actually a Time Lord.
Klikoderat 10 months ago
@Klikoderat lol
MansonFan64 10 months ago
@Klikoderat haaaa, that was the best comment I have ever seen. Hurray for Doctor Who!! xD <3
TheTragicPoet 9 months ago
What a pile of BS.
Love? Learn to tolerate each other? Are you kidding me?
WHATEVER RULES YOU SET THERE WILL BE THOSE THAT WILL TRY TO BREAK THEM OR CHEAT. Therefore there could never be universal love, tolerance, etc.
Think of a rule we have not yet broken if it was possible to be broken? I can not.
Even today we still kill, eat, violate, rape, lie to, cheat, etc each other and will continue to do so until the end of time.
gespilk 11 months ago
@gespilk That's no excuse not to do it. The people who say "someone else will do it" are the reasons there isn't universal love. The message is personal. Worry about making yourself better, not what others are doing.
Dodobird133 11 months ago
@gespilk I don't think Russell was saying that there ever could be universal love or even that it would be desirable. There will always be violence and people will break rules. Greedy people, cruel people, rude people. Also kind people, honest people, polite people. It's just the way we humans are. It would be helpful for the long term survival of our species if we could learn to get a long a little bit better though, don't you think? Probably make life a bit more pleasant for everyone too.
Ansonidak 11 months ago
@Ansonidak
When resources are limited (and ultimately they are) "the getting along" would not work.
"Resources" means anything from global energy supply to "less parachutes for more passengers"or "less jobs-many more candidates" or "less hot chicks - more suitors" or "few M&Ms-many children" or "many people -one planet" etc.
Ultimately in the absence of resources all cooperation behaviours are doomed.
So, "get along" while you can to position yourself better for the inevitable competition.
gespilk 11 months ago
@gespilk Most of this limitation of resources is often artificial: time is truly the one that is absolutely limited, alone. Limited resources does not necessarily (it is sufficient, of course) lead to fighting: perhaps instead we could work to improve technology to created substitute resources (ex. moving towards solar panels for energy, which is practically limitless, away from fossil fuels).
bernlin2000 11 months ago
Lies out of this man's mouth. He's a eugenicist, everyone knows it.
EndoftheDaySeries 11 months ago
@EndoftheDaySeries ~ 1150 to 6. i'm thinking "everyone knows it" isn't "fact".
tomitstube 11 months ago
@EndoftheDaySeries
He just had 4 children. Right? How could he possibly be eugenicist. The real eugenicist have like 8+ children. Right?
I am failed Eugenicist because I can not find mating partners. It is very stressful and depressing. Every time I say to someone that I want a us to have a baby together they look at me as if I am crazy. At the same time they go and mate with people that are often inferior to me intellectuality, physicality and genetically.
Most people are so irrational.
gespilk 11 months ago
Love is wise, hatred is foolish........I like his thinking.
oklahomaisok 11 months ago
I think by fact...or my opinion of fact...sometimes we want to believe things because believing the other way is either terrible, or goes against what we've always held dear to our hearts. We have to look at the facts, even if they are seemingly negative to us.
kennedyASU12 11 months ago
@withlovetacy
Does the mutable nature of scientific knowledge paralyze you in daily life? No? Then apply the same decision-making methods you use in mundane life to your questions, and do the best you can with the information you have.
sudsboy 11 months ago
4 people are.. Hitler?
GuacamoleKun 11 months ago 26
What kind of a idiot must you be in order to hit the dislike button on this one???
bb1vtec 1 year ago 2
@bb1vtec people's fingers slip clicking the button with there mouse i wouldn't worry about it.
Durendal33 1 year ago
@bb1vtec
BTW...we must learn to tolerate and like each other even if we don't like what the other person says...just saying...maybe they think he's a worthless cunt but you have to learn to tolerate and love that person or we all die in a nuclear holocaust.
Durendal33 1 year ago
After watching this video, I would like to know what a "fact" is. There are scientific theories and laws, but which would be considered facts? Also, is finding the "truth that the facts bear out" possible by human beings? How can we identify the absolute truth, and are there varying degrees of truth?
withlovetacy 1 year ago
@withlovetacy I think facts in the sense of observable facts. That's how all sciences function. They observe facts and make inferences. So the laws and theories are just inferences based on observing facts. I.e. when i let go of my apple it drops toward the earth. = observable fact. and gravity = an inference.
dickson89 11 months ago
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Point a: facts don't exist.
Point b: love is wise, but tolleration doesn't exist, it's an acceptance of something that you tend to dislike. Understanding would be a far better concept.
feraro23 1 year ago
@feraro23 facts don't exist? That is literally the dumbest thing that has ever been on the internet. Good job. Just do us all a favor and go away.
Irsaan88 1 year ago 2
@feraro23 Fact: 2+2=5
dickson89 11 months ago
See the agenda's behind the facts? Who can see clearly enough around their own agendas to see anothers clearly?
What was that about splinters and motes again?
TwoMunchuTwo 1 year ago
@TwoMunchuTwo Someone who has no agendas of their own.
Jahsus 7 months ago
More often than not apparent "facts" are creations of our wishes and beliefs. What we need to learn is to see the agendas behind "facts", rather than see them as the view from nowhere.
Distortion0 1 year ago
@Distortion0
And what is the agenda behind that view?
Your need for independence? Your fear of possibly objective truth?
You are correct in saying that there are agendas behind every "fact".... and also this one you have asserted has an agenda behind it.
l33tpwnzord 1 year ago
@l33tpwnzord What I'm saying is that things that come to be true come to be true under certain circumstances, often circumstances supporting specific social conditions. To claim that those truths are in place simply because they correspond to the surrounding environment is foolish and politically harmful.
Distortion0 1 year ago
this man is brilliant
gnarly2smooth 1 year ago
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His "moral" and "intellectual" advice are actually conflicting. What a dumb old retard.
l33tpwnzord 1 year ago
@l33tpwnzord
How is it conflicting? He said believe in the facts regardless of what you wish they were, and to love and tolerate one another so we can move forward as a society. What part of that is conflicting?
Chaturgha 1 year ago
@Chaturgha
"Love" means going against the facts sometimes.
l33tpwnzord 1 year ago
@l33tpwnzord
If you must lie or go against the facts to love, then it is not love. I believe so, anyway. Because Love is such a vague term, this particular argument could go on for eternity
s13610 1 year ago
spoken like a true gangster
scout6686 1 year ago 2
Fucking amazing
godblessthe80s 1 year ago
Bertrand Russell is an example of the highest form of humanity.
gknapier 1 year ago
I think this is the field for reasonable and intellectual men not for any religious fools who think religion as some kind of supernatural thing and put that above all things
Yotta1983 1 year ago
The simpleness of a genius
dredoc1 1 year ago 29
In short
"If we can live with each others BS then we may come to an understanding!"
That couldn't be more true!
spiralflame88 1 year ago
So He agrees with Christ's words then? but he is totally inaccurate in His understanding of Christianity. Christianity is a supernatural present continuous experience. His understanding of Religion seems to be limited to obedience to a set of rules.
maw777maw 1 year ago
@maw777maw Dude, I don't know who you think you are, but you've got a big pair of balls to to say his understanding is limited?? At least he's not indulging in wishful thinking. . . . . . .
dinglemouse99 1 year ago 3