You're wrong on this one Cenk. It wasn't 'right-wing extremists' who did this, it's individuals who are a few sandwiches shy of a picnic. Please stop lumping 'pro-Constitutionalists' with the 'anti-government' crowd. The definition put forth by DHS makes our forefathers out to be 'right-wing extremists'. We're here now because so many were lulled to sleep with television and network news which is nothing more than the propaganda tool of the usurpers. The true criminal class running this country.
Indeed if by 'right-wing extremist' the usurpers means 'pro-Constitutionalists' then count me in. Of course they have to use those terms because they sway public opinion on a subliminal level. It's a friggin' science for Christ's sake! Also notice that when the audio track is saying these 'buzz words' that they show footage of men in camo with automatic weapons. The footage they're using I'll guarantee is paramilitary police training footage and not 'right-wing militia group' footage at all.
Anti Jewish? You mean like the left wing liberal NAZIS? Wrong. Fascism is right wing by definition. Check your history. It would be nice to engage in an honest, productive debate but I can´t when you´re confused about a simple basic fact.
Sure, extremists tend to come full circle but you´ve got the definition backwards.
Also, in the Middle East the radicals are right wing and the people who want peace are called liberals. Hmmm, just like here.
@oalemdemadrid Then why do liberals defend radical Islam. Have you ever seen a liberal protest against Sharia Law or radical Islam? Nope. How about against the expansion of a Muslim school or Korans in public schools? Sorry.
Yes liberals constantly protest Shria law. It´s anti liberal for crying out loud. Just because you haven´t seen it doesn´t mean it doesn´t happen. Of course FOX won´t show that.
@oalemdemadrid Name one time liberals protested against Sharia law. Name one instance where liberals protested against a Muslim group on campus instead of a Jewish or Christian one. Why didn't liberals protest against Ahmadinejad when he was at Columbia?
@oalemdemadrid Just like your radical Muslim friends, liberals are anti-Jewish, anti-Christian, and pro-Sharia. You liberals attacked Pamela Tebow and Rifqa Bary and you were silent over the murders of Aqsa Parvez, and Sarah and Amina Said. Where are all your protests when Muslims kill military recruiters and soldiers? Oh wait, I know why. Liberals hate American soldiers; they call them extremists.
@oalemdemadrid It's not paranoid to say that liberals hate soldiers because it's true. Liberals are constantly attacking the military and smearing soldiers. How else do you explain Democrats calling military veterans "extremists" and wanting them on terror watch lists? Where was the liberal outrage over Fort Hood?
Furthermore, the irony is the conservatives have WAY more in common with radical Islam. Pro death penalty, evangelizing, anti women´s rights, xenophobia, intolerance of gays, everybody should have guns, wanting to teach creationism, etc etc. I could go on and on but it´s your own responsibility to inform yourself.
@oalemdemadrid You liberals are hypocrites and most like radical Islam. You attack LEGAL immigration who obeyed the law and waited years to become citizens. You defend honor killings and misogyny that comes with radical Islam. You want to get rid of Christianity and Judaism and support "hate crime laws." You support radical Muslim groups like Hamas who KILL people for being gay.
@oalemdemadrid Liberal hypocrites defended Ahmadinejad at Columbia, that Taliban spokesman at Yale, and Khatami at Harvard. Yet liberal hypocrites sue to get rid of the military. Liberals also attack Israel (the most gay-friendly and Democratic country in the Middle East) and blame Jews for all the problems of the world. Liberals hate the Second Amendment for regular people, yet have no problem with Rosie O'Donnell having armed guards. Liberals want taxpayer-funded Islam in schools.
you say Israel (the most gay-friendly and Democratic country in the Middle East)
In other words, they´re liberal.
Blaming Jews for all the problems in the world is a traditionally right wing activity and you know it. Rosie O´Donnell is a hypocrite that doesn´t represent mainstream.
@oalemdemadrid Name one instance liberals have defended Israel and not "Palestine" or Hamas. It's liberals who advocate the death of Jews and blame them for everything. I've seen your "peace rallies."
Totally closing a border is never going to be logistically possible. Even North Korea hasn't been able to do it, and the only reason they've gotten as close as they have is because it's the worst kind of dictatorship.
Anyone with a legitamate reason to be pissed off is a right extremist,until its a liberal that loses it for something like loseing his medical benefits then their a victim.You people dont get it theyre trieing to lalel everone as a terrorist,every group who is unsatisfied so they can take away more of our civil rights,they called it the war on terror cause they dont want it to end until every American citizen is living in a communist America.Popular opinion will put you in bondage.
Sigh sadly i see where this is going, something real bad gonna happen until these fools stop fueling the ignorant in society with all their mumbo jumbo, then eveyone gonna be crying and asking "why why did this happen" and unfortunately we point at FOx news .....yet again
@stopglobalwarming08 You liberal Nazis were attacking Homeland Security a few years ago. Of course, you're anti-military. You liberal cults kill soldiers.
@celph414 You dumb liberals ARE Nazis. You blame Jews for everything and you support radical Islam. You want to get rid of Christianity and you defend rape hoaxes and quota systems. Liberals have more sympathy for Nidal Hasan and Carlos Bledsoe than William Long or the Fort Hood victims.
Nuts? Was McVeigh a figment of people's imagination? It happened, people! That was an insult to those bombed on 19 April 1995. I doubt that people would laugh about the possibility of al-Qa'eda people attacking things...
The weird thing is conservatives blamed muslim groups for weeks after the Mc Veigh bombings and I still meet people to this day that believe it was a muslim terrorist group that did it. To this day they still say this. Unreal.
@lordhighexecutioner If the government dont want us to be attacked,why are the borders wide open,if bales and bales of drugs can get through,whats to stop something even worse,they dont want terorist coming here yet ruthless South American gang members are coming in by the droves,Whats wrong with that picture?Most of those the liberal media is calling extremist want nothing more than to preserve the Rights that The Constitution and Bill Of Rights was suppose to guarantee us.
@oalemdemadrid Democrat's favorite excuses: Uh, we didn't mean it. Sure. That's why liberals constantly smear military veterans and Napolitano had to apologize.
Try to focus and stay on subject. Hmmm... I didn´t hear Napolitano speaking here is this video. But I did hear Dobson say there are no Timothy McVeighs out there right now. He needs to grow a brain cell. I also heard Joe Scarborough laughing smugly about the existence of right wing extremists. Not very professional and not very funny to the victims.
PS right wingers bash veterans all the time. It´s not because they´re veterans, it´s political.
@oalemdemadrid When did liberals care about soldiers? They were silent during the murder of the Arkansas recruiter. They make excuses for the Fort Hood shooter. They defend phonies like Jesse MacBeth at their "anti-war" rallies. Liberal groups like CodePink and World Can't Wait also call military recruiters predators and veterans extremists. Liberals also want to get rid of ROTC programs.
I wouldn't trust janet napolitano to pull my finger. She is the worst person to have as Chief of Homeland Security. I had her for governor and she ruined this state and would not back Sheriff Joe Arpaio on immigration. She put a hold on I.C.E. They WON'T deport illegals out of this country anymore. We do not need homeland security. They now, and have never, done what they are suppose to do. They just put on a front, or an illusion as though to make it seem this country is safe..
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This guy is a terd. Both sides are a farce. Typical of people who follow banners, he is sticking to his elephant without knowing anything about his leader. Smart guy.
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Bush "Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax GIve it to my buddies and to the NWO" Obama "Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax GIve it to my buddies and to the NWO" Change we can believe in!
Though I do not like fox, long before this I've always thought of Shepard being a real journalist and have often wondered what he is doing with the company he keeps at Fox. I have never gone to Fox intentionaly but if where I'm at it's on and Shepard is doing the news I will listen .
Hippy Vans!? Where do you find those? Independents with bumper stickers arent killing people, so why would the DOHLS release such a report. No double standard exists when one points out that American right wing ideologues have killed more people than American left wing ideologues. Thats just reporting the facts. How would in be, in some way fair to say the left kills as many as the right when that is not true. To say this would be biased and untrue.
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Are you even bothering to research all the facts, YoungTurks, or are you afraid certain facts will compromise the message you want to send?
Pfft. You're no better than any other mass media organization out there. Get a damn life. Why is it that when a left winger kills, bombs and murders (Bill Ayers for instance) he becomes a pillar of his community, but when a right winger kills or bombs, it's for every evil reason under the sun? No more double standards, you infantile fools.
Zucca101, "Are you even bothering to research all the facts?"
Physician, heal thyself!
Prior to the report citing threats from right-wing extremists, DHS also issued reports warning about left wing extremists, Islamic extremists, and even animal rights extremists. Keyword = "extremists".
Idiots like you didn't pooh-pooh reports about left wing or Islamic extremist threats, for some reason. DHS was only doing the job it was given by legislation. The report was issued by a Bush 43 appointee.
Zucca101, "that report does not point to folk with hippie vans or bumper stickers endorsing an independent, left-leaning candidate"
Wouldn't that be somewhat inappropriate in a report on right wing extremism? Did you not understand the significance of the remark that DHS has also issued similar reports on other kinds of extremists?
Are you now, or have you ever been, diagnosed as "non compos mentis"?
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I have no mental illness, thank you.
The hippie vans and bumper stickers endorsing a left-leaning candidate issue was, in reference, to the 'Left Wing Extremism' report. If you would have read my post adequately the first time around, this would have been clear.
What we have here is a failure to communicate.
At any rate, my point is that the Right Wing extremism report is the only one with such broad definitions.
I find it interesting that you quote Strother Martin as part of your exposition.
Timothy McVeigh and John Muhammad both served in the Army and in Operation Desert Storm before returning to the US and embarking on killing sprees. A person familiar with guns and explosives and with a history of violence who becomes radicalized is probably more dangerous than someone who bought tickets for the last CSNY tour.
The Weather Underground have all come in from the cold.
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You leftists would rather have a socialist dictatorship ruled by obama with all kinds of anti-white "hate laws" like they have in europe. open borders scum
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Healthnews 6-29-09 Jounalist Jane Burgermeister has recently filed criminal charges with the FBI against the World Health Organization (WHO), the United Nations (UN), and several of the highest ranking government and corporate officials concerning bioterrorism and attempts to commit mass murder. Stop the terrorism Audit the Federal Reserve Now!
The scoundrels on the far right are trying to start a civil conflict by fueling the flames of rebellion in the hearts of violent extremist people - they're playing a numbers game. Hoping to create a situation and then try to claim to be the heroe of the situation. These extremists are pawns, only to be controlled by their corporate overlords and corporate sponsored politicians in the end.
And none of us will be free - we will be slaves with no rights - to the cult if the corrupt few.
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James Von Brunn is not a right wing extremist. He is an anarcho, anti-establishment racist who wants us out of the middle east and hates the Republican party. He is not left or right, he is CRAZY. Racism is in all places and to act like only conservatives are guilty is nonsense.
You are a vulgar, liberal version of Sean Hannity only worse. That is why no one takes you seriously.
bobby640, "Racism is in all places and to act like only conservatives are guilty is nonsense."
"Thanks to a Republican Congress, a Republican White House, and a Republican Supreme Court, there is no longer any such thing as racism in America. That is why it is unnecessary to extend or renew the 1964 Civil Rights Act."
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i don't know where you are from but in my state and not far from my town it is still populated by kkk and other racist groups so racism is still part of America. and as far as the tea parties are concern they are worried in part to the fact tht ther is a 100mile zone around America that the contitution is thrown out the door (constitution free zone) look it up for yourself. the country is going in a bad direction and are rights as free poeple are drop like fly wake up people wake up.....
oh yeah ! it's coming we the people are tired of paying for the few ! what your seeing in iran is coming to a street corner in your neighborhood ! wait till the unemployment claims run out ! taxation without representation ! and the right to bear arms ! a perfect coctail for america
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This whole thing is retarded you can't justify a document portraying groups of law abiding american citizens as terrorists. I don't care how many crazy people go on killing spree's with similar beliefs(because the truth is what you believe is not a crime and doesn't make you a violent person) . This is exactly like columbine when the media tried to blame video games, rap music and Marilyn Manson on the school shooting.
Republicans are a bunch of ignorant malcontents, who can be worked into a frenzy about anything. They simply can't live with the reality that they lost the election so badly. Their desperation has lead them to look increasingly insane. Their divorce from reality and retreat into the political netherland of subjective hate and fear, runs counter to the direction of the conciousness of our country. These Palinesque optics will lead them to a major defeat in 2010 and 2012. Life is beautiful.
I think we're heading towards some huge blowout and it's between the two parties. I'm just surprised that some people learned nothing from this election. It was all about banding together as a nation and helping each other. Not having Republicans and Democrats at each other's throats all the time over being correct and the superior party. It all seems so stupid at the end of the day. Party politics will tear this nation apart, even more so than it already is.
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What about all the LEFT WING CRAZIES? What about the Radical Muslims? A soldier in AK lies dead--because a Left Wing Loonie took it upon himself to kill him. And, another's life, is in peril. To be FAIR AND BALANCED, you need to address the crazies on BOTH SIDES! When will the Liberals do that? i'm afraid Hell will freeze over first.
Where did you get the notion that the person who shot the recruiters were left wing. It is my understanding that he was a recent Muslim convert (Not that I am in anyway diminishing the Muslim faith) who took it upon himself to do this. But, where do you have evidence that he is a liberal? Just wondering. And, if you could offer more than just this example that would suggest that LEFT WING CRAZIES are killing people, that would be nice as well.
now I'm just tired of seeing this guy fall to his knees and worship Obama. I'm tired of all the "progressive liberal" rhetoric that is further pushing this country into the gutter. What do you care of this Lardass? It's not even your country.
again do you even understand the context in which ice cubes lyrics were written? i'm not excusing the violence or even what he said but you should understand the climate that he wrote those lyrics in and why he did.
what double standard? you asked for racist rock lyrics. and i posted some. that's it. your argument that "oh well their not that well known" is a double standard when you posted racist rap lyrics from people who themselves are not well known. ice cube has spoken on his lyrics time and time again or do you not care about that?
Yes, he also wrote a song about wanting to kill Korean store owners in "Black Korea". A few of his songs also consisted of him talking about killing "niggas".
Charlie Sheen has made racist comments and it wasn't a huge media ordeal. He still gets work in Hollywood. He called his wife a "nigger" (which is weird because she appears completely white).
he's already spoken on it. his cousin had been killed by a LAPD officer. he lived in an area of extreme racial tension that ultimately erupted into violence and was seen on the national scene after the rodney king beating. he was young and his music was his outlet. i'm not saying excuse him for what he said but at least try to understand where he was coming from.
Well I guess we can all understand violent lyrics against blacks written by a white person who may have lost a family member to a black criminal or cop killer.
sure i could understand why he'd be angry and lashing out. but grinded nig didn't lose a family member to a black criminal or a cop killer. so how can you excuse them?
So every person attacked by a black criminal can be excused if they had antiblack sentiments or wrote antiblack lyrics like Prussian Blue's mother who was attacked by a black person.
i'm saying that while what they are saying is can't be excused if something like traumatic like that happened it'd be understandable that they'd have some resentment towards that group. it DOES NOT mean it's right. i said understandable.
but i like how you dodge the question. why is it that you condemn ice cube and the others you posted but defend grinded nig and johnny rebel.
grinded nig was apart of a neo-nazi group that was investigated for the murder of a homeless man.
ice cube was never arrested for hurting or killing a white person. and has spoken out against violent crimes. yet you still hold him in less of a regard that grinded nig?
Not talking about a murder but speech and thought.We have laws against killing people.You prove my point.Ice cube was exercising free speech and so was that other band.However murder is going beyond free speech.
i agree. but my question is why do you continue to defend grinded nig and johnny rebel?
your whole point was that in the media there is a double standard. i for one don't believe the double standard is as bad as you say. but you can't say that and then denounce 1 group of racists and defend another.
I don't defend grinded nig or johnny rebel.They and rap groups have a right to publish and distribute their brand of music. Although, have you ever seen grinded nig or johnny rebel at the emmys or MTV awards like Wu Tang Clan, Ice Cube, or Iced T? The only time you hear of those white groups is either underground or on the internet.
hip hop has never been politically correct. and as far as ice cube and ice t they have done things since such as starting anti-violence programs that have proven that they are past what they have done or said in the past. there is no media double standard at least dealing with music.
Ice Cubes his cousin had been killed by a LAPD officer.Did the police officer murder him in cold blood or was the killing his justifiable homicide.Was is cousin in the progress of commiting a criminal act?
it was questionable at best cold blooded at worst. it happened at a traffic stop no weapon or drugs were found. not that it matters anyway in that political climate where there were so many abuses of power and flat out murder/coverup by the LAPD it's no question why anyone would be upset.
Extremists is a media/government buzz word, and it's unfortunate when people who are honestly for the Constitution and second ammendment to defend their rights are lumped in with crazies.
The real reason the government fears veterans is that they know how the military and government actually operates and if more people knew what they knew, more people would probably own guns.
We can't overlook the fact that the truth may have been spun by the media and government in these cases. It happens.
Funny how Fox News and these idiots touted the Patriot Act which followed completely non-threatening liberal groups in the same manner as this report and now when the tide has turned, they laugh. Then it gets shoved in their faces when it comes to fruition. Wonder if there are any clips of Rush or Joe taking it back? Doubt it.
When it comes to nonwhite hate groups you really have to do a lot of digging and research.When you find their quotes and criminal actions many people make excuses,ignore it, or call you the racist for pointing it out.Now any white hate group gets lots of coverage and their quotes and actions get pounded into the public mind day and night over and over.
Fugitive Days, in which he boasts that he "participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972," he says of the day that he bombed the Pentagon: "Everything was absolutely ideal. ... The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the bastards were finally going to get what was coming to them." William Ayers
I don't think that TYT is labeling every Republican. But this is what I personally see. When you look at Democrats, you have progressive, centrist and conservative. They all have a voice, many of them have elected positions and freely speak their mind and hash out policy differences. You see nothing like that on the Republican side. It's either you're hardcore conservative or you have no place in the party. That seems pretty extreme. I'll change my mind when I see differently.
It is probably less important to prosecute the torturers than to publicize all of the disgusting details about what went on. The Bush Administration had 8 years to cover up and destroy the incriminating details, at least insofar as criminal prosecution is concerned. We know that the CIA destroyed incriminating tapes of the interrogations, and that low-ranking grunts at the bottom of the food chain were scapegoated in prosecutions.
The best disinfectant is sunlight, as one SCOTUS judge observed.
Yeah, like these idiots reporting the news know better than homeland security. Seriously, If I hear a group who's job is is to understand what is a threat and what isn't says that right wing extremeists could be dangerous, and someone who's job is is to REPORT NEWS says they aren't, I'm more likely to believe the former.
What, exactly, is your point in all those postings about Black crazies? If you fgo to the Whitev Aryan website, the opening banner defiantly proclaims "WE WANT WAR" and leads off with a picture of a Negro who has been lynched captioned "The Only Solution Against The Black Dominated Government".
We KNOW there are crazies on both sides. The question is, what can we do about them?
My point is the main stream media and so called liberal commentators like TYT convenient don't report or hardly mention the type of crimes or call to violence that I posted.
I swear conservative repugs are the most hateful pple in America! It's either u believe what they believe or ur pretty much their enemy. They always preach about love and God but yet they want to cling to their guns so they can start shooting anyone opposit from their kind. Soon we'll be consider a third world country where all white surpremacist will go against anyone who looks and acts different than they are. Just look at us now, the conserative base is already preaching the word of hate!
Their facists, plain and simple. Hail to the flag, america uber allesch, gott mit uns!
I mean torture? Illegal wars? arresting random people in the name of terrorism and flying them to third world countries to be tortured? Look at what these people are supporting!
I calls 'em as I sees 'em. And I see in the neocons, a bunch of fascists. (And Obama is not doing enough to put a stop to it. By refusing to prosecute the torturers.)
I know what you mean about Obama not doing enough. I can't figure out why he isn't. If he prosecutes these people. Politically, it's a brillant idea, because he could destroy what little is left of these people's credibility. Not to mention the fact that torture is wrong and those responsible need to be punished.
I think that Obama wisely wants to steer clear of the precedent of prosecuting one's predecessors in office, because of the destructive implications for free elections and democracy. As much as I would like to see the true culprits punished, I understand the principle at issue here, and I reluctantly endorse it. Full disclosure of the nature and the extent of the abuses will go a long way towards preventing a repetition, by discrediting and ruining the reputations of those involved.
LMAO waring about right wing extreamist, neo nazi;s, skinheads, the national allience of raciast groups, alquda terrorist........................REBUBLICANS. Most right wingers in ANY country seem to be extreamists funny how that works out when they are akways the one talking about following jesus and how their country should follow god (s). (Cenk hope you see this.)
I'm not sure about the type of economic systems that predominate in Muslim countries, but most countries with a predominantly Muslim population tend to be on the extreme end of social conservatism namely, theocracy.
bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white people as "devils." And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often made similar statements, referring to "white and Jew devils" and "media devils" whom he claims are trying to destroy him
The July 2007 slaying of Michael Wills, in which two members of Your Black Muslim Bakery have been charged, was tinged with racial overtones, yet those men aren't charged with a hate crime.
Friends and relatives of Wills, who was white, are concerned that prosecutors haven't done all they can against defendants Yusuf Bey IV — the last leader of the now-defunct bakery — and Antoine Mackey, one of Bey's followers charged with pulling an assault rifle's trigger to end Wills' life.
xxdonaldqxx, "yet those men aren't charged with a hate crime"
Demonizing the victim isn't exactly unusual in the case of agenda-inspired murders and violence. For the record, Scott Roeder also has not been charged with a hate crime, although he was clearly motivated by hatred.
The part about the men not being charged with a so called hate crime just happened to be part of the article.I don't even believe in the who idea or concept of hate speech and hate crime.However it is interesting that the murder was not considered a hate crime.
Perhaps the police in that murder you mentioned are Republicans, and would not have prosecuted even the killing of James Byrd in Jasper, Texas some years ago as a hate crime?
Police are not exactly renowned for being terribly progressive.
Heres another one.................Former bakery leader accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing.They was laughing about and joking about," Broussard said of Bey IV and Mackey.
Mackey "said he seen the white dude walking down the path "... then he shot him," Broussard added.
Bey IV later said, "'We got a devil. White people are devils,'"
Maybe if the FBI reads everything I posted here they will be getting lots of overtime and doing lots of raids.I hope homeland security reads it as well.
The muslim bakery guys and the cop killer form oakland actually killed whites.The uhuru people from oakland celebrated it.Kamau Kambon made the comments about exterminating all whites.The Laraza founder wanted to kill thr gringo(white) Khalid Muhammid used the word kill several times.every rap star advocted it in their music.
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The New Black Panther Party is right-wing. They don't believe in the left-wing values of the original Black Panthers. They are black supremacist capitalists. Similar to Marcus Garvey (who believed in Black Capitalism).
Have you ever seen that speech by Khalid Abdul Muhammad before I told you about it? What about the LaRaza founder,the uhuru group,Kambon,the Oakland cop killer,or the Muslim bakery killers? We have all heard about violent and sexest lyrics by rappers but the media always leave out the anti-white part of the lyrics.When those performers are on Tv they are never quetioned about their anti-white rants.How come?
Listen, if you check the comments I posted on this video you will find several anti-white lyrics.You act like I pull these facts out of thin air.The quotes by the laraza founder are also on this page. I already posted them once.
And WTH are you talking about? Nonwhite killers are reported ALL THE TIME in the media. It's been proven that the majority of the faces they show on TV and the murder cases they discuss involve black or Latino men. They rarely do in-depth coverage of white killers except in outrageous cases.
I am not saying nonwhite murderers are not reported in the news.However they are never reported as racist or anti-white.They also are never linked to anti-government or anti-white groups.That is reported about white only.
The news doesn't usually call white killers racist either unless they connect them to a racist organization. When a nonwhite person kills a white person the news usually portrays it as a national problem. When a white person kills someone they usually portray it as an isolated incident.
I only found one video about anti-white lyrics in rap:
watch?v=45kuo8olqOc
A lot of it was conjecture because most of it had no outright racial slurs. A lot of the time it said "devils" but does not say who the devils refers to. And I've never even heard of most of those rappers.
Even so, so what if you can find a few racist rappers? I can list tons of openly Neo-Nazi and White Supremacist rock bands. Persian Blue in California made a Top 4 Billboard hit song with a White Supremacist message.
Racism exist in rock music. Does that mean we should have a crusade against rock music? No. Why is rap any different? Especially when most of those rappers in the video aren't even mainstream or well-known?
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TACMAN518 1 year ago
You're wrong on this one Cenk. It wasn't 'right-wing extremists' who did this, it's individuals who are a few sandwiches shy of a picnic. Please stop lumping 'pro-Constitutionalists' with the 'anti-government' crowd. The definition put forth by DHS makes our forefathers out to be 'right-wing extremists'. We're here now because so many were lulled to sleep with television and network news which is nothing more than the propaganda tool of the usurpers. The true criminal class running this country.
AceOfHeart2012 1 year ago
Indeed if by 'right-wing extremist' the usurpers means 'pro-Constitutionalists' then count me in. Of course they have to use those terms because they sway public opinion on a subliminal level. It's a friggin' science for Christ's sake! Also notice that when the audio track is saying these 'buzz words' that they show footage of men in camo with automatic weapons. The footage they're using I'll guarantee is paramilitary police training footage and not 'right-wing militia group' footage at all.
AceOfHeart2012 1 year ago
i consider Al-Qaeda a right wing extremist group
flipperboy 1 year ago
@flipperboy Al-Qaeda is left-wing: Anti-Jewish, anti-Christian, pro-radical Islam.
StoogeWatcher 1 year ago
@StoogeWatcher
Al Qaeda is left wing???
Anti Jewish? You mean like the left wing liberal NAZIS? Wrong. Fascism is right wing by definition. Check your history. It would be nice to engage in an honest, productive debate but I can´t when you´re confused about a simple basic fact.
Sure, extremists tend to come full circle but you´ve got the definition backwards.
Also, in the Middle East the radicals are right wing and the people who want peace are called liberals. Hmmm, just like here.
oalemdemadrid 1 year ago
@oalemdemadrid Then why do liberals defend radical Islam. Have you ever seen a liberal protest against Sharia Law or radical Islam? Nope. How about against the expansion of a Muslim school or Korans in public schools? Sorry.
StoogeWatcher 1 year ago
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Yes liberals constantly protest Shria law. It´s anti liberal for crying out loud. Just because you haven´t seen it doesn´t mean it doesn´t happen. Of course FOX won´t show that.
oalemdemadrid 1 year ago
@oalemdemadrid Name one time liberals protested against Sharia law. Name one instance where liberals protested against a Muslim group on campus instead of a Jewish or Christian one. Why didn't liberals protest against Ahmadinejad when he was at Columbia?
StoogeWatcher 1 year ago
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The liberals I know don´t want ANY religion taught in school so you´re starting to sound more and more paranoid.
oalemdemadrid 1 year ago
@oalemdemadrid Just like your radical Muslim friends, liberals are anti-Jewish, anti-Christian, and pro-Sharia. You liberals attacked Pamela Tebow and Rifqa Bary and you were silent over the murders of Aqsa Parvez, and Sarah and Amina Said. Where are all your protests when Muslims kill military recruiters and soldiers? Oh wait, I know why. Liberals hate American soldiers; they call them extremists.
StoogeWatcher 1 year ago
@StoogeWatcher
Saying liberals hate soldiers is paranoid.
oalemdemadrid 1 year ago
@oalemdemadrid It's not paranoid to say that liberals hate soldiers because it's true. Liberals are constantly attacking the military and smearing soldiers. How else do you explain Democrats calling military veterans "extremists" and wanting them on terror watch lists? Where was the liberal outrage over Fort Hood?
StoogeWatcher 1 year ago
@StoogeWatcher
Furthermore, the irony is the conservatives have WAY more in common with radical Islam. Pro death penalty, evangelizing, anti women´s rights, xenophobia, intolerance of gays, everybody should have guns, wanting to teach creationism, etc etc. I could go on and on but it´s your own responsibility to inform yourself.
oalemdemadrid 1 year ago
@oalemdemadrid You liberals are hypocrites and most like radical Islam. You attack LEGAL immigration who obeyed the law and waited years to become citizens. You defend honor killings and misogyny that comes with radical Islam. You want to get rid of Christianity and Judaism and support "hate crime laws." You support radical Muslim groups like Hamas who KILL people for being gay.
StoogeWatcher 1 year ago
@oalemdemadrid Liberal hypocrites defended Ahmadinejad at Columbia, that Taliban spokesman at Yale, and Khatami at Harvard. Yet liberal hypocrites sue to get rid of the military. Liberals also attack Israel (the most gay-friendly and Democratic country in the Middle East) and blame Jews for all the problems of the world. Liberals hate the Second Amendment for regular people, yet have no problem with Rosie O'Donnell having armed guards. Liberals want taxpayer-funded Islam in schools.
StoogeWatcher 1 year ago
@StoogeWatcher
you say Israel (the most gay-friendly and Democratic country in the Middle East)
In other words, they´re liberal.
Blaming Jews for all the problems in the world is a traditionally right wing activity and you know it. Rosie O´Donnell is a hypocrite that doesn´t represent mainstream.
oalemdemadrid 1 year ago
@oalemdemadrid Name one instance liberals have defended Israel and not "Palestine" or Hamas. It's liberals who advocate the death of Jews and blame them for everything. I've seen your "peace rallies."
StoogeWatcher 1 year ago
@pidner
Totally closing a border is never going to be logistically possible. Even North Korea hasn't been able to do it, and the only reason they've gotten as close as they have is because it's the worst kind of dictatorship.
stathamajf 1 year ago
You're generalizing all "right wing extremists"
MrNathandyer 1 year ago
Anyone with a legitamate reason to be pissed off is a right extremist,until its a liberal that loses it for something like loseing his medical benefits then their a victim.You people dont get it theyre trieing to lalel everone as a terrorist,every group who is unsatisfied so they can take away more of our civil rights,they called it the war on terror cause they dont want it to end until every American citizen is living in a communist America.Popular opinion will put you in bondage.
pidner 2 years ago
Welcome to the March 2009 Department of Homeland Security's Extremist list! READ the report.
Are you:
Conservative? Christian? Against in NWO? Believe in end-time Prophesy? Against abortion?
Against Obama? (Then it could be for racial reasons ONLY.) Constitutionalist? Libertarian? Support small government? Against big government?
Like/support Ron Paul? Support gun rights? Bought extra ammo, food, water? Returning military?
Also: Neo Nazi, SkinHeads, Racist groups, anti-Semitic groups
HDHV30 2 years ago
false flag, anyone?
magikmushie 2 years ago
Scarborough is such a jackass. Eighty percent of the time he just interrupts and talks over Mika and he's usually wrong.
Belloran24 2 years ago
Sigh sadly i see where this is going, something real bad gonna happen until these fools stop fueling the ignorant in society with all their mumbo jumbo, then eveyone gonna be crying and asking "why why did this happen" and unfortunately we point at FOx news .....yet again
guuriki 2 years ago 4
i trust Homeland Security over fox news
the Right-Wing is the new CULT!!
dividing this world, DESTROYING THIS WORLD
stopglobalwarming08 2 years ago 10
@stopglobalwarming08 Liberal fascists were happy when Janet Napolitano called military veterans extremists.
StoogeWatcher 1 year ago
@stopglobalwarming08 You liberal Nazis were attacking Homeland Security a few years ago. Of course, you're anti-military. You liberal cults kill soldiers.
StoogeWatcher 1 year ago
@StoogeWatcher
oh shut up liberals, nazi lmfao, conservatives must be even more dumb than i thought for trying to eqaute liberalism with nazism
celph414 1 year ago
@celph414 You dumb liberals ARE Nazis. You blame Jews for everything and you support radical Islam. You want to get rid of Christianity and you defend rape hoaxes and quota systems. Liberals have more sympathy for Nidal Hasan and Carlos Bledsoe than William Long or the Fort Hood victims.
StoogeWatcher 1 year ago
Nuts? Was McVeigh a figment of people's imagination? It happened, people! That was an insult to those bombed on 19 April 1995. I doubt that people would laugh about the possibility of al-Qa'eda people attacking things...
lordhighexecutioner 2 years ago 4
McVeigh is probably a hero to the right wing at the moment.
GamertownUSA 2 years ago
no probably about it.
xdir 2 years ago
The weird thing is conservatives blamed muslim groups for weeks after the Mc Veigh bombings and I still meet people to this day that believe it was a muslim terrorist group that did it. To this day they still say this. Unreal.
Good comment man.
Coolflames101 2 years ago
@lordhighexecutioner If the government dont want us to be attacked,why are the borders wide open,if bales and bales of drugs can get through,whats to stop something even worse,they dont want terorist coming here yet ruthless South American gang members are coming in by the droves,Whats wrong with that picture?Most of those the liberal media is calling extremist want nothing more than to preserve the Rights that The Constitution and Bill Of Rights was suppose to guarantee us.
pidner 2 years ago
1:37 Fox´s favorite line ¨some say¨
oalemdemadrid 2 years ago 11
@oalemdemadrid Democrat's favorite excuses: Uh, we didn't mean it. Sure. That's why liberals constantly smear military veterans and Napolitano had to apologize.
StoogeWatcher 1 year ago
@StoogeWatcher
Try to focus and stay on subject. Hmmm... I didn´t hear Napolitano speaking here is this video. But I did hear Dobson say there are no Timothy McVeighs out there right now. He needs to grow a brain cell. I also heard Joe Scarborough laughing smugly about the existence of right wing extremists. Not very professional and not very funny to the victims.
PS right wingers bash veterans all the time. It´s not because they´re veterans, it´s political.
oalemdemadrid 1 year ago
@oalemdemadrid When did liberals care about soldiers? They were silent during the murder of the Arkansas recruiter. They make excuses for the Fort Hood shooter. They defend phonies like Jesse MacBeth at their "anti-war" rallies. Liberal groups like CodePink and World Can't Wait also call military recruiters predators and veterans extremists. Liberals also want to get rid of ROTC programs.
StoogeWatcher 1 year ago
I wouldn't trust janet napolitano to pull my finger. She is the worst person to have as Chief of Homeland Security. I had her for governor and she ruined this state and would not back Sheriff Joe Arpaio on immigration. She put a hold on I.C.E. They WON'T deport illegals out of this country anymore. We do not need homeland security. They now, and have never, done what they are suppose to do. They just put on a front, or an illusion as though to make it seem this country is safe..
ConservativesAmerica 2 years ago
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This guy is a terd. Both sides are a farce. Typical of people who follow banners, he is sticking to his elephant without knowing anything about his leader. Smart guy.
DanieljDixon 2 years ago
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endisnighe 2 years ago
You know, if you all were to wait till Obama actually does something and then bitch about it, you might not be such a joke.
GoodOldHalo 2 years ago
Though I do not like fox, long before this I've always thought of Shepard being a real journalist and have often wondered what he is doing with the company he keeps at Fox. I have never gone to Fox intentionaly but if where I'm at it's on and Shepard is doing the news I will listen .
billoakesattablthree 2 years ago
You're a moron.
kelborn24 2 years ago
This guy is nuts!
treatkeyz 2 years ago
Its funny because its not true!
ltdan123 2 years ago
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CIA orchestrated strategy in order to get the guns away from the people.
Please do not confuse neo-nazis and neocons with true conservatism.
Timothy Mcvey was a CIA asset just as Osama Bin Laden was.
hickman343 2 years ago
Hippy Vans!? Where do you find those? Independents with bumper stickers arent killing people, so why would the DOHLS release such a report. No double standard exists when one points out that American right wing ideologues have killed more people than American left wing ideologues. Thats just reporting the facts. How would in be, in some way fair to say the left kills as many as the right when that is not true. To say this would be biased and untrue.
mrekbass 2 years ago 3
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Are you even bothering to research all the facts, YoungTurks, or are you afraid certain facts will compromise the message you want to send?
Pfft. You're no better than any other mass media organization out there. Get a damn life. Why is it that when a left winger kills, bombs and murders (Bill Ayers for instance) he becomes a pillar of his community, but when a right winger kills or bombs, it's for every evil reason under the sun? No more double standards, you infantile fools.
Zucca101 2 years ago
You need mental help.
starbucks3954 2 years ago
Zucca101, "Are you even bothering to research all the facts?"
Physician, heal thyself!
Prior to the report citing threats from right-wing extremists, DHS also issued reports warning about left wing extremists, Islamic extremists, and even animal rights extremists. Keyword = "extremists".
Idiots like you didn't pooh-pooh reports about left wing or Islamic extremist threats, for some reason. DHS was only doing the job it was given by legislation. The report was issued by a Bush 43 appointee.
WolverineSpectre 2 years ago 2
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I did research. However, that report does not point to folk with hippie vans or bumper stickers endorsing an independent, left-leaning candidate.
No more double-standards.
That's all I want.
Zucca101 2 years ago
Zucca101, "that report does not point to folk with hippie vans or bumper stickers endorsing an independent, left-leaning candidate"
Wouldn't that be somewhat inappropriate in a report on right wing extremism? Did you not understand the significance of the remark that DHS has also issued similar reports on other kinds of extremists?
Are you now, or have you ever been, diagnosed as "non compos mentis"?
WolverineSpectre 2 years ago 3
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I have no mental illness, thank you.
The hippie vans and bumper stickers endorsing a left-leaning candidate issue was, in reference, to the 'Left Wing Extremism' report. If you would have read my post adequately the first time around, this would have been clear.
What we have here is a failure to communicate.
At any rate, my point is that the Right Wing extremism report is the only one with such broad definitions.
*THAT* is my problem with it.
Zucca101 2 years ago
Zucca101,
I find it interesting that you quote Strother Martin as part of your exposition.
Timothy McVeigh and John Muhammad both served in the Army and in Operation Desert Storm before returning to the US and embarking on killing sprees. A person familiar with guns and explosives and with a history of violence who becomes radicalized is probably more dangerous than someone who bought tickets for the last CSNY tour.
The Weather Underground have all come in from the cold.
WolverineSpectre 2 years ago 5
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You leftists would rather have a socialist dictatorship ruled by obama with all kinds of anti-white "hate laws" like they have in europe. open borders scum
billb1114 2 years ago
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what about extremists such as la raza, new black panthers and jihadists? Check the stats on interracial crimes.
stealth423 2 years ago
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Healthnews 6-29-09 Jounalist Jane Burgermeister has recently filed criminal charges with the FBI against the World Health Organization (WHO), the United Nations (UN), and several of the highest ranking government and corporate officials concerning bioterrorism and attempts to commit mass murder. Stop the terrorism Audit the Federal Reserve Now!
sierrawlfc 2 years ago
Jane Burgemeister is another wingnut from the same stable as Alex Jones and the other NWO conspiracy theorists....
WolverineDeus 2 years ago
Yeah, not so funny now hey Scarborough..
..you fucking arse.
o8QWERTYo8 2 years ago 2
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Progressive = slavery
thank you take your communism elsewhere.
ProsperiaFan 2 years ago
The scoundrels on the far right are trying to start a civil conflict by fueling the flames of rebellion in the hearts of violent extremist people - they're playing a numbers game. Hoping to create a situation and then try to claim to be the heroe of the situation. These extremists are pawns, only to be controlled by their corporate overlords and corporate sponsored politicians in the end.
And none of us will be free - we will be slaves with no rights - to the cult if the corrupt few.
noah1love2 2 years ago
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James Von Brunn is not a right wing extremist. He is an anarcho, anti-establishment racist who wants us out of the middle east and hates the Republican party. He is not left or right, he is CRAZY. Racism is in all places and to act like only conservatives are guilty is nonsense.
You are a vulgar, liberal version of Sean Hannity only worse. That is why no one takes you seriously.
bobbyg640 2 years ago
bobby640, "Racism is in all places and to act like only conservatives are guilty is nonsense."
"Thanks to a Republican Congress, a Republican White House, and a Republican Supreme Court, there is no longer any such thing as racism in America. That is why it is unnecessary to extend or renew the 1964 Civil Rights Act."
(~~George W Bush)
WolverineDeus 2 years ago 3
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Are you fucking kidding, WolverineDeus??
nosuchtruth 2 years ago
Am I fucking kidding about what, exactly?
WolverineSpectre 2 years ago 2
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i don't know where you are from but in my state and not far from my town it is still populated by kkk and other racist groups so racism is still part of America. and as far as the tea parties are concern they are worried in part to the fact tht ther is a 100mile zone around America that the contitution is thrown out the door (constitution free zone) look it up for yourself. the country is going in a bad direction and are rights as free poeple are drop like fly wake up people wake up.....
djsgl 2 years ago
oh yeah ! it's coming we the people are tired of paying for the few ! what your seeing in iran is coming to a street corner in your neighborhood ! wait till the unemployment claims run out ! taxation without representation ! and the right to bear arms ! a perfect coctail for america
jackandjanie1 2 years ago
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This whole thing is retarded you can't justify a document portraying groups of law abiding american citizens as terrorists. I don't care how many crazy people go on killing spree's with similar beliefs(because the truth is what you believe is not a crime and doesn't make you a violent person) . This is exactly like columbine when the media tried to blame video games, rap music and Marilyn Manson on the school shooting.
WillahG 2 years ago
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i hate ppl who argue on youtube. really go fuck yourself, its annoying, your right, your wrong, big whoop!! go cry somewhere.
alrk1 2 years ago
Republicans are a bunch of ignorant malcontents, who can be worked into a frenzy about anything. They simply can't live with the reality that they lost the election so badly. Their desperation has lead them to look increasingly insane. Their divorce from reality and retreat into the political netherland of subjective hate and fear, runs counter to the direction of the conciousness of our country. These Palinesque optics will lead them to a major defeat in 2010 and 2012. Life is beautiful.
IndiMusicLover 2 years ago 4
I think we're heading towards some huge blowout and it's between the two parties. I'm just surprised that some people learned nothing from this election. It was all about banding together as a nation and helping each other. Not having Republicans and Democrats at each other's throats all the time over being correct and the superior party. It all seems so stupid at the end of the day. Party politics will tear this nation apart, even more so than it already is.
KLpixie12 2 years ago
Yeah who would ever think that right wing extremists would do anything wrong? Funny how FOX can vouch for every nutcase they pander to.
MongoloidBabyUSA 2 years ago 3
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What about all the LEFT WING CRAZIES? What about the Radical Muslims? A soldier in AK lies dead--because a Left Wing Loonie took it upon himself to kill him. And, another's life, is in peril. To be FAIR AND BALANCED, you need to address the crazies on BOTH SIDES! When will the Liberals do that? i'm afraid Hell will freeze over first.
csereix 2 years ago
Where did you get the notion that the person who shot the recruiters were left wing. It is my understanding that he was a recent Muslim convert (Not that I am in anyway diminishing the Muslim faith) who took it upon himself to do this. But, where do you have evidence that he is a liberal? Just wondering. And, if you could offer more than just this example that would suggest that LEFT WING CRAZIES are killing people, that would be nice as well.
KiwiTwist03 2 years ago
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With all the left- wing right-wing blather will someone explain the difference between the left and right.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
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the only diff is the brand of bullshit you buy into
chrismychi 2 years ago
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bingo!!!!
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
yeah, how did some jihading POS get transfered to liberal? What about Brunn?
MongoloidBabyUSA 2 years ago
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@johnedwards1968
now I'm just tired of seeing this guy fall to his knees and worship Obama. I'm tired of all the "progressive liberal" rhetoric that is further pushing this country into the gutter. What do you care of this Lardass? It's not even your country.
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SadeTabitha 2 years ago
Yeah, I guess that they can sound a little whacky when you take every one of them out of context. Liberals... sigh**
fezik82 2 years ago
"Splatter day, Nigger Day
We must stop the decay
Splatterday, Nigger Day
Niggers are in the Whitemans way"
Grinded Nig Spatter Day
icronianson 2 years ago
Who wrote those lyrics?Whoever did do you think they would be invited to be in movies,talkshows and network music awards shows.The way Ice cube is.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
grinded nig. it's the same song.
again do you even understand the context in which ice cubes lyrics were written? i'm not excusing the violence or even what he said but you should understand the climate that he wrote those lyrics in and why he did.
icronianson 2 years ago
Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!! DOUBLE STANDARD!!!!!!!!!!!
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
what double standard? you asked for racist rock lyrics. and i posted some. that's it. your argument that "oh well their not that well known" is a double standard when you posted racist rap lyrics from people who themselves are not well known. ice cube has spoken on his lyrics time and time again or do you not care about that?
icronianson 2 years ago
1) I've never even heard of most of these guys.
2) Here's a list of openly racist rock bands:
Grinded Nig, Slave Whipping Blasphemy, Gestapo SS, Dreadmoon, Grom, Temnozer, Acirema, Aryan Tormentor, Before God, Birkenau, Blutkrieg, Conquest Dread Moon, Granulosum, Herrenvolk, I Shalt Become, Infernal Hatred, Judas Iscariot (a.k.a. Veltmacht), Katharia Misein, etc.
A86 2 years ago
Well I've never heard of the any of the groups you posted but I have heard of Ice cube.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
I've never really heard of the groups you posted either.
A86 2 years ago
Did you ever hear of Ice cube?
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
Yes, he also wrote a song about wanting to kill Korean store owners in "Black Korea". A few of his songs also consisted of him talking about killing "niggas".
A86 2 years ago
But no one ever ask Ice cube about his lyrics.He has been in movies and on national network TV.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
oh sorry the chorus
"Slice open an ape throat, pull out the esophagus
Mutilate the nigger face with a sharp instrument
Flesh & Meat splattered on my hands and the wall
Chorus
Fuck the Hip-Hop community
We will kill minorities"
icronianson 2 years ago
Charlie Sheen has made racist comments and it wasn't a huge media ordeal. He still gets work in Hollywood. He called his wife a "nigger" (which is weird because she appears completely white).
A86 2 years ago
do you even understand the context of that song?
icronianson 2 years ago
I don't think its very complicated to understand.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
Then enlighten me. What is the context of the song?
Also in what context did ou mean it by posting it?
occhamsrazor 2 years ago
Which song?
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
he's already spoken on it. his cousin had been killed by a LAPD officer. he lived in an area of extreme racial tension that ultimately erupted into violence and was seen on the national scene after the rodney king beating. he was young and his music was his outlet. i'm not saying excuse him for what he said but at least try to understand where he was coming from.
icronianson 2 years ago
Well I guess we can all understand violent lyrics against blacks written by a white person who may have lost a family member to a black criminal or cop killer.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
sure i could understand why he'd be angry and lashing out. but grinded nig didn't lose a family member to a black criminal or a cop killer. so how can you excuse them?
icronianson 2 years ago
So every person attacked by a black criminal can be excused if they had antiblack sentiments or wrote antiblack lyrics like Prussian Blue's mother who was attacked by a black person.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
that's not what i'm saying. re read my comments.
i'm saying that while what they are saying is can't be excused if something like traumatic like that happened it'd be understandable that they'd have some resentment towards that group. it DOES NOT mean it's right. i said understandable.
but i like how you dodge the question. why is it that you condemn ice cube and the others you posted but defend grinded nig and johnny rebel.
icronianson 2 years ago
Thats right and they did not actually hurt anyone.Thats why the idea of hate speech is stupid and unconstitutional.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
grinded nig was apart of a neo-nazi group that was investigated for the murder of a homeless man.
ice cube was never arrested for hurting or killing a white person. and has spoken out against violent crimes. yet you still hold him in less of a regard that grinded nig?
icronianson 2 years ago
Not talking about a murder but speech and thought.We have laws against killing people.You prove my point.Ice cube was exercising free speech and so was that other band.However murder is going beyond free speech.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
i agree. but my question is why do you continue to defend grinded nig and johnny rebel?
your whole point was that in the media there is a double standard. i for one don't believe the double standard is as bad as you say. but you can't say that and then denounce 1 group of racists and defend another.
icronianson 2 years ago
I don't defend grinded nig or johnny rebel.They and rap groups have a right to publish and distribute their brand of music. Although, have you ever seen grinded nig or johnny rebel at the emmys or MTV awards like Wu Tang Clan, Ice Cube, or Iced T? The only time you hear of those white groups is either underground or on the internet.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
i never said they didn't.
hip hop has never been politically correct. and as far as ice cube and ice t they have done things since such as starting anti-violence programs that have proven that they are past what they have done or said in the past. there is no media double standard at least dealing with music.
icronianson 2 years ago
Ice Cubes his cousin had been killed by a LAPD officer.Did the police officer murder him in cold blood or was the killing his justifiable homicide.Was is cousin in the progress of commiting a criminal act?
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
it was questionable at best cold blooded at worst. it happened at a traffic stop no weapon or drugs were found. not that it matters anyway in that political climate where there were so many abuses of power and flat out murder/coverup by the LAPD it's no question why anyone would be upset.
icronianson 2 years ago
Extremists is a media/government buzz word, and it's unfortunate when people who are honestly for the Constitution and second ammendment to defend their rights are lumped in with crazies.
The real reason the government fears veterans is that they know how the military and government actually operates and if more people knew what they knew, more people would probably own guns.
We can't overlook the fact that the truth may have been spun by the media and government in these cases. It happens.
cerebus83 2 years ago
This is such an "I told you so" video.
saracross123 2 years ago
Funny how Fox News and these idiots touted the Patriot Act which followed completely non-threatening liberal groups in the same manner as this report and now when the tide has turned, they laugh. Then it gets shoved in their faces when it comes to fruition. Wonder if there are any clips of Rush or Joe taking it back? Doubt it.
SimonSays311 2 years ago 3
When it comes to nonwhite hate groups you really have to do a lot of digging and research.When you find their quotes and criminal actions many people make excuses,ignore it, or call you the racist for pointing it out.Now any white hate group gets lots of coverage and their quotes and actions get pounded into the public mind day and night over and over.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
Fugitive Days, in which he boasts that he "participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972," he says of the day that he bombed the Pentagon: "Everything was absolutely ideal. ... The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the bastards were finally going to get what was coming to them." William Ayers
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
Just pointing out hypocrisy. If freedom is to be taken away it will come under the disguise of improving security.
Doubt the dems would do this, but you never know.
b0b0maj0 2 years ago
Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both. Benjamin Franklin
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
So we're doomed to lose both our liberty and security. Thanks Patriot Act!
ItsDubs 2 years ago
Thats right,thats why I hated the SO CALLED patriot act from day one!!
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
No idea why you were down thumbed for this.
b0b0maj0 2 years ago
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WolverineDeus 2 years ago
And once again the right wing people need to put their own foot on the list as part of their South Beach Diet.
Savior20061 2 years ago
One has to wonder why conservatives automatically assume that a DHS report on "right-wing extremists" necessarily applies to them.....
WolverineDeus 2 years ago
I don't think that TYT is labeling every Republican. But this is what I personally see. When you look at Democrats, you have progressive, centrist and conservative. They all have a voice, many of them have elected positions and freely speak their mind and hash out policy differences. You see nothing like that on the Republican side. It's either you're hardcore conservative or you have no place in the party. That seems pretty extreme. I'll change my mind when I see differently.
kosmicslop 2 years ago
It is probably less important to prosecute the torturers than to publicize all of the disgusting details about what went on. The Bush Administration had 8 years to cover up and destroy the incriminating details, at least insofar as criminal prosecution is concerned. We know that the CIA destroyed incriminating tapes of the interrogations, and that low-ranking grunts at the bottom of the food chain were scapegoated in prosecutions.
The best disinfectant is sunlight, as one SCOTUS judge observed.
WolverineDeus 2 years ago
Yeah, like these idiots reporting the news know better than homeland security. Seriously, If I hear a group who's job is is to understand what is a threat and what isn't says that right wing extremeists could be dangerous, and someone who's job is is to REPORT NEWS says they aren't, I'm more likely to believe the former.
xCrazyJayx 2 years ago
That Jane "whats her name" needs to be removed from leading the homeland security. She is an evil bitch.
amishron61 2 years ago
xxdonaldqxx,
What, exactly, is your point in all those postings about Black crazies? If you fgo to the Whitev Aryan website, the opening banner defiantly proclaims "WE WANT WAR" and leads off with a picture of a Negro who has been lynched captioned "The Only Solution Against The Black Dominated Government".
We KNOW there are crazies on both sides. The question is, what can we do about them?
WolverineDeus 2 years ago
My point is the main stream media and so called liberal commentators like TYT convenient don't report or hardly mention the type of crimes or call to violence that I posted.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
I swear conservative repugs are the most hateful pple in America! It's either u believe what they believe or ur pretty much their enemy. They always preach about love and God but yet they want to cling to their guns so they can start shooting anyone opposit from their kind. Soon we'll be consider a third world country where all white surpremacist will go against anyone who looks and acts different than they are. Just look at us now, the conserative base is already preaching the word of hate!
vena309 2 years ago 3
Their facists, plain and simple. Hail to the flag, america uber allesch, gott mit uns!
I mean torture? Illegal wars? arresting random people in the name of terrorism and flying them to third world countries to be tortured? Look at what these people are supporting!
I calls 'em as I sees 'em. And I see in the neocons, a bunch of fascists. (And Obama is not doing enough to put a stop to it. By refusing to prosecute the torturers.)
Shavarnarak 2 years ago
I know what you mean about Obama not doing enough. I can't figure out why he isn't. If he prosecutes these people. Politically, it's a brillant idea, because he could destroy what little is left of these people's credibility. Not to mention the fact that torture is wrong and those responsible need to be punished.
xCrazyJayx 2 years ago
I think that Obama wisely wants to steer clear of the precedent of prosecuting one's predecessors in office, because of the destructive implications for free elections and democracy. As much as I would like to see the true culprits punished, I understand the principle at issue here, and I reluctantly endorse it. Full disclosure of the nature and the extent of the abuses will go a long way towards preventing a repetition, by discrediting and ruining the reputations of those involved.
WolverineDeus 2 years ago
LMAO waring about right wing extreamist, neo nazi;s, skinheads, the national allience of raciast groups, alquda terrorist........................REBUBLICANS. Most right wingers in ANY country seem to be extreamists funny how that works out when they are akways the one talking about following jesus and how their country should follow god (s). (Cenk hope you see this.)
SteJo4201 2 years ago
I'm not sure about the type of economic systems that predominate in Muslim countries, but most countries with a predominantly Muslim population tend to be on the extreme end of social conservatism namely, theocracy.
unhealthytruthseeker 2 years ago
Wiki the golden mean fallacy.
unhealthytruthseeker 2 years ago
bakery founder Yusuf Bey, have often, while preaching, referred to white people as "devils." And in telephone calls recorded from the Santa Rita Jail in Dublin and obtained by the Chauncey Bailey Project, Bey IV often made similar statements, referring to "white and Jew devils" and "media devils" whom he claims are trying to destroy him
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
The July 2007 slaying of Michael Wills, in which two members of Your Black Muslim Bakery have been charged, was tinged with racial overtones, yet those men aren't charged with a hate crime.
Friends and relatives of Wills, who was white, are concerned that prosecutors haven't done all they can against defendants Yusuf Bey IV — the last leader of the now-defunct bakery — and Antoine Mackey, one of Bey's followers charged with pulling an assault rifle's trigger to end Wills' life.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
xxdonaldqxx, "yet those men aren't charged with a hate crime"
Demonizing the victim isn't exactly unusual in the case of agenda-inspired murders and violence. For the record, Scott Roeder also has not been charged with a hate crime, although he was clearly motivated by hatred.
WolverineDeus 2 years ago
The part about the men not being charged with a so called hate crime just happened to be part of the article.I don't even believe in the who idea or concept of hate speech and hate crime.However it is interesting that the murder was not considered a hate crime.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
Perhaps the police in that murder you mentioned are Republicans, and would not have prosecuted even the killing of James Byrd in Jasper, Texas some years ago as a hate crime?
Police are not exactly renowned for being terribly progressive.
WolverineDeus 2 years ago
Heres another one.................Former bakery leader accused of saying 'white people are devils' after 2007 killing.They was laughing about and joking about," Broussard said of Bey IV and Mackey.
Mackey "said he seen the white dude walking down the path "... then he shot him," Broussard added.
Bey IV later said, "'We got a devil. White people are devils,'"
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
Shepard has made 2 or 3 really progressive comments recently, especially his one on torture.l bet fox show him the door in less then 6 months.
thoth342 2 years ago
Maybe if the FBI reads everything I posted here they will be getting lots of overtime and doing lots of raids.I hope homeland security reads it as well.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
No one has threatened violence against people here. You don't have a case.
A86 2 years ago
I guees you don't think whites are people then.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
Who here has threatened violence against white people?
A86 2 years ago
The muslim bakery guys and the cop killer form oakland actually killed whites.The uhuru people from oakland celebrated it.Kamau Kambon made the comments about exterminating all whites.The Laraza founder wanted to kill thr gringo(white) Khalid Muhammid used the word kill several times.every rap star advocted it in their music.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
1) Khalid Muhammad is already in captivity.
2) Please quote the La Raza founder saying that.
A86 2 years ago
Khalid Muhammads group is still active.Jose Angel Gutierrez a founder of one of the LaRaza groups said the kill gringo comment.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
AGutiérrez has received many honors including being named as one of the "100 Outstanding Latino Texans of the 20th Century" by Latino Monthly, January 2000, and "Distinguished Texas Hispanic by Texas Hispanic Magazine, October 1996. He received the Distinguished. Just a little information on Jose Angel Gutierrez
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
1) What group of Mr. Muhammad is still active?
2) Where is that quote?
A86 2 years ago
The new black panther party. check all the comments I post also it is recorded in a video you can find on youtube.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
The New Black Panther Party is right-wing. They don't believe in the left-wing values of the original Black Panthers. They are black supremacist capitalists. Similar to Marcus Garvey (who believed in Black Capitalism).
A86 2 years ago 3
SWT Khalid Abdul Muhammad (Harold Moore Jr.) type it on youtube see with your own eyes.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
Khalid Abdul Muhammad had I nice cheering section the crowd loved it.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
What are you talking about?
A86 2 years ago
Have you ever seen that speech by Khalid Abdul Muhammad before I told you about it? What about the LaRaza founder,the uhuru group,Kambon,the Oakland cop killer,or the Muslim bakery killers? We have all heard about violent and sexest lyrics by rappers but the media always leave out the anti-white part of the lyrics.When those performers are on Tv they are never quetioned about their anti-white rants.How come?
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
1) Quote the supposed speech by the La Raza founder.
2) List the supposedly anti-white lyrics of some rap songs.
A86 2 years ago
Listen, if you check the comments I posted on this video you will find several anti-white lyrics.You act like I pull these facts out of thin air.The quotes by the laraza founder are also on this page. I already posted them once.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
What comments? I haven't seen you post any speeches by the La Raza founder or these claimed rappers (which rappers?).
A86 2 years ago
They are on the comments of this Video.Check all the comments on this video if you can't find them I will post them again.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
Post them again because I can't find them.
And WTH are you talking about? Nonwhite killers are reported ALL THE TIME in the media. It's been proven that the majority of the faces they show on TV and the murder cases they discuss involve black or Latino men. They rarely do in-depth coverage of white killers except in outrageous cases.
A86 2 years ago
I am not saying nonwhite murderers are not reported in the news.However they are never reported as racist or anti-white.They also are never linked to anti-government or anti-white groups.That is reported about white only.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
The news doesn't usually call white killers racist either unless they connect them to a racist organization. When a nonwhite person kills a white person the news usually portrays it as a national problem. When a white person kills someone they usually portray it as an isolated incident.
A86 2 years ago
Type this in you tube...... Anti-White Rap!.... Instead of me posting again this will be less time consuming.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
I only found one video about anti-white lyrics in rap:
watch?v=45kuo8olqOc
A lot of it was conjecture because most of it had no outright racial slurs. A lot of the time it said "devils" but does not say who the devils refers to. And I've never even heard of most of those rappers.
Even so, so what if you can find a few racist rappers? I can list tons of openly Neo-Nazi and White Supremacist rock bands. Persian Blue in California made a Top 4 Billboard hit song with a White Supremacist message.
A86 2 years ago
I think you want to make excuses.
xxdonaldqxx 2 years ago
Racism exist in rock music. Does that mean we should have a crusade against rock music? No. Why is rap any different? Especially when most of those rappers in the video aren't even mainstream or well-known?
A86 2 years ago