Anderson cooper loves to fellate other guys. He has no interest in women. He is a homosexual, and doesn't deny it. Him, obama, david corn, shepard smith, david gregory, bawney fwank and his boyfriend, among others, get it on regularly at parties and private meetings.
The only Bills he has introduced "for Texas" have been an utter waste and have done nothing to help the state of Texas. What is wrong with ppl in east Tx why in the hell do you elect this crazy person?
I am so glad that Obama HASN'T released that information these idiot birthers are asking for. I would much rather he be spending his time trying to rectify the many problems that America is facing today, rather than try to disprove baseless rumors about his citizenship.
I also fail to see why he should be forced to produce documentation that his 43 predecessors didn't need to produce.
Hi Ramel, It sounds like you are making a rhetorical observation. I'm sure you really DO believe, and know full well, that people continue to have debates on thing others believe settled. My understanding of the eligibility proof is firstly, the green birth certification is totally unchallengeable, and secondly, the Constitution's requirement for "natural born" citizenship does not have to do, or do anymore, with where one's parents were born. Are these two items the proof of citizenship? More?
You're right. Vattel did not use 'natural born citizen'. Vattel wrote in French. He used the word 'indigènes', translated as 'natural' or 'native'. I'm sure you've seen the Constitution regarding, at the time: No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President. The concept of divided allegiance derived from feudalism. Thanks for spurring my interest. I've been looking into it.
There is no mention of "super-citizen" that I have made. The use of "natural born" citizen has a very real history. It's interesting to research the English counter-part, "natural-born subject". I'm sure you are aware of the letter de Vattel and the letter of John Jay. The founders would not have wanted to allow the offspring, born here, of British subjects to be President. It's a matter of divided allegiance. If that has been abrogated by the Fourteenth Amendment, the Court must decide.
Where exactly does the constitution say that both parents have to be citizens for you to be President of the United States? I must have missed the Sarah Palin rally where that article was cited.
It is not up to up to prove President Obama isn't eligible when proof that he is was never provided. A birth certificate that doesn't have the name of the doctor on it and other expected information is not good enough for me. But the real heart of the matter is that both parents are supposed to be citizens. That's what the Constitution says. His father was not a citizen. Cooper calls this a "technicality"?
It's true that I don't know where the birth information is for Presidents Bush and Clinton. And it is also true that the Constitution does not say anything about parents. But isn't "natural born citizen" what the heart of the matter is? You should know that . What is meant by "natural born citizen" is both parents are citizens? Right or wrong. Let the Court decide. Because the President has been fighting "discovery" people wonder.
There are only two types of citizenship in the US. Either you are foreign born and become a Naturalized citizen. OR, you are a Citizen at birth (Natural Born).
Title 8 of the US Code Sect 1401 details 8 categories of how a person acquires Citizen at Birth status. People that fall into any of those 8 categories are considered to be Natural Born and are eligible to serve as Pres or VP.
Regarding Title 8 of the U.S. Section 1401, YOU put "Natural Born" in there, in parentheses. Might that not be a little tendentious? Title 8 of the U.S. Section 1401 does NOT mention "Natural Born", the words in the Constitution. This hair splitting is why the Court will have to decide, even without the show of a birth certificate, if the President's father not being a citizen is relevant to eligibility.
Some people seem to think there is some magical quality about natural born citizenship. It simply means Citizen at birth. If you are a US citizen at birth, you're natural born.
There are only two types of citizenship in the US.
If you're foreign born you become a Naturalized citizen.
Or
You're born here a Citizen at Birth, you are a natural born citizen.
@checagou1340 The President hasn't been fighting discovery at all. Every nuisance suit brought forth by Birthers has been thrown out by the judges. Most of the times, the lawyers representing Obama or the other plaintiffs didn't even need to show up. And even were a court to decide what NBC was intended to mean by the Founders (which would be impossible to do), it would not be made retroactive. Obama would still be President and would still be entitled to run for re-election as the incumbent.
@checagou1340 its very interesting how you say that, because you're COMPLETELY wrong. you're just like mr. berman who uses internet rumors as facts. the constitution only says that the president has to be a natural-born citizen, it says absolutely nothing about the parents. and numerous officials have stated and VERIFIED that his birth certificate is valid, so if you're argument is that its not enough proof for you, you're gonna need a new argument. you have no facts against obama
@checagou1340 and please do quote which section of the constitution mentions that both parents need to be citizens. because unless my copy of the constitution is faulty, you were just caught in a huge ass lie
AC, what do you mean "where are you getting your information from?" the man is getting his information from the internet. The INTERNET. What grounds do YOU have to questions the internet AC! You need more then that? Who do you think you are???
@WhoTheMandotcom do you actually think the internet, where any wacko can go put up conspiracy rumors, is more reliable than actual facts received first-hand from officials. someday, you're gonna get slapped in the face by reality and realize that the internet isn't real life. thats like writing a book off of information you got from wikipedia
you cant win with conspiracy theorists.........there all in on it!....the media!....the government!!.....the persident!!....the aleins!......the Jews!........9/11 was an inside job!....Al - QUaeda is made up then here is made up then here !! !!
This idiot got completely slammed by AC. Cooper matched him point by point with actual FACTS and all this guy kept saying I need to see it. Well this is the problem with these loons, even when u give them actual proof, sign statements, verivication, etc, they say its not enough lol. Of course they dont have a SINGLE shred of proof Obama was born anywhere but America. They wont believe all the facts thrown out, but want people to just believe them with no evidence on their side. Odd!
Berman Steals From Schools
youtube.com/watch?v=iEeASkTXo9Q
Impeachleoberman 8 months ago
Anderson cooper loves to fellate other guys. He has no interest in women. He is a homosexual, and doesn't deny it. Him, obama, david corn, shepard smith, david gregory, bawney fwank and his boyfriend, among others, get it on regularly at parties and private meetings.
Petekiv 10 months ago
Leo Berman is a WASTE OF SPACE!
The only Bills he has introduced "for Texas" have been an utter waste and have done nothing to help the state of Texas. What is wrong with ppl in east Tx why in the hell do you elect this crazy person?
ronpaul2012org 10 months ago
I am so glad that Obama HASN'T released that information these idiot birthers are asking for. I would much rather he be spending his time trying to rectify the many problems that America is facing today, rather than try to disprove baseless rumors about his citizenship.
I also fail to see why he should be forced to produce documentation that his 43 predecessors didn't need to produce.
HPislegend248 10 months ago
Obama and Cooper need to be deported.
crywithasmile87 1 year ago
@crywithasmile87 Cooper needs to be deported Do you have any idea how stupid you sound?
HPislegend248 10 months ago
Hi Ramel, It sounds like you are making a rhetorical observation. I'm sure you really DO believe, and know full well, that people continue to have debates on thing others believe settled. My understanding of the eligibility proof is firstly, the green birth certification is totally unchallengeable, and secondly, the Constitution's requirement for "natural born" citizenship does not have to do, or do anymore, with where one's parents were born. Are these two items the proof of citizenship? More?
checagou1340 1 year ago
I can't believe people are still having this debate. IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THAT HE IS A CITIZEN!!!
Ramel34 1 year ago
You're right. Vattel did not use 'natural born citizen'. Vattel wrote in French. He used the word 'indigènes', translated as 'natural' or 'native'. I'm sure you've seen the Constitution regarding, at the time: No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President. The concept of divided allegiance derived from feudalism. Thanks for spurring my interest. I've been looking into it.
checagou1340 1 year ago
There is no mention of "super-citizen" that I have made. The use of "natural born" citizen has a very real history. It's interesting to research the English counter-part, "natural-born subject". I'm sure you are aware of the letter de Vattel and the letter of John Jay. The founders would not have wanted to allow the offspring, born here, of British subjects to be President. It's a matter of divided allegiance. If that has been abrogated by the Fourteenth Amendment, the Court must decide.
checagou1340 1 year ago
@checagou1340
De Vattel never used the term 'natural born citizen'.
"The founders would not have wanted to allow the offspring, born here, of British subjects to be President"
Then what happened with the first couple of generations of American children whose parent(s) may have come from Europe? Were they ineligible?
"Divided allegiance" is a myth.
Is a kid born on US soil with one US citizen parent less of a citizen than a kid born on US soil with 2 US citizen parents? No.. they're the same.
arrrogantlyignorant 1 year ago
Where exactly does the constitution say that both parents have to be citizens for you to be President of the United States? I must have missed the Sarah Palin rally where that article was cited.
boredofwords 1 year ago
It is not up to up to prove President Obama isn't eligible when proof that he is was never provided. A birth certificate that doesn't have the name of the doctor on it and other expected information is not good enough for me. But the real heart of the matter is that both parents are supposed to be citizens. That's what the Constitution says. His father was not a citizen. Cooper calls this a "technicality"?
checagou1340 1 year ago
@checagou1340
The Constitution doesnt say anything about parents.
The Hawaii birth certificate that he provided is a valid, legal, State issued, Certified birth certificate.
Who was George W Bush's delivering doctor? Who was Bill Clintons doctor? Who was Nixons delivering doctor?
arrrogantlyignorant 1 year ago
@arrrogantlyignorant
It's true that I don't know where the birth information is for Presidents Bush and Clinton. And it is also true that the Constitution does not say anything about parents. But isn't "natural born citizen" what the heart of the matter is? You should know that . What is meant by "natural born citizen" is both parents are citizens? Right or wrong. Let the Court decide. Because the President has been fighting "discovery" people wonder.
checagou1340 1 year ago
@checagou1340
There are only two types of citizenship in the US. Either you are foreign born and become a Naturalized citizen. OR, you are a Citizen at birth (Natural Born).
Title 8 of the US Code Sect 1401 details 8 categories of how a person acquires Citizen at Birth status. People that fall into any of those 8 categories are considered to be Natural Born and are eligible to serve as Pres or VP.
Google: Constitutional Topic
Read: Citizenship
arrrogantlyignorant 1 year ago
@arrrogantlyignorant
Regarding Title 8 of the U.S. Section 1401, YOU put "Natural Born" in there, in parentheses. Might that not be a little tendentious? Title 8 of the U.S. Section 1401 does NOT mention "Natural Born", the words in the Constitution. This hair splitting is why the Court will have to decide, even without the show of a birth certificate, if the President's father not being a citizen is relevant to eligibility.
checagou1340 1 year ago
@checagou1340
Some people seem to think there is some magical quality about natural born citizenship. It simply means Citizen at birth. If you are a US citizen at birth, you're natural born.
There are only two types of citizenship in the US.
If you're foreign born you become a Naturalized citizen.
Or
You're born here a Citizen at Birth, you are a natural born citizen.
There is no third type of "super citizen".
arrrogantlyignorant 1 year ago
@checagou1340 The President hasn't been fighting discovery at all. Every nuisance suit brought forth by Birthers has been thrown out by the judges. Most of the times, the lawyers representing Obama or the other plaintiffs didn't even need to show up. And even were a court to decide what NBC was intended to mean by the Founders (which would be impossible to do), it would not be made retroactive. Obama would still be President and would still be entitled to run for re-election as the incumbent.
tgear77 1 year ago
@checagou1340 its very interesting how you say that, because you're COMPLETELY wrong. you're just like mr. berman who uses internet rumors as facts. the constitution only says that the president has to be a natural-born citizen, it says absolutely nothing about the parents. and numerous officials have stated and VERIFIED that his birth certificate is valid, so if you're argument is that its not enough proof for you, you're gonna need a new argument. you have no facts against obama
luvsvb94 1 year ago
@checagou1340 and please do quote which section of the constitution mentions that both parents need to be citizens. because unless my copy of the constitution is faulty, you were just caught in a huge ass lie
luvsvb94 1 year ago
AC, what do you mean "where are you getting your information from?" the man is getting his information from the internet. The INTERNET. What grounds do YOU have to questions the internet AC! You need more then that? Who do you think you are???
WhoTheMandotcom 1 year ago
@WhoTheMandotcom do you actually think the internet, where any wacko can go put up conspiracy rumors, is more reliable than actual facts received first-hand from officials. someday, you're gonna get slapped in the face by reality and realize that the internet isn't real life. thats like writing a book off of information you got from wikipedia
luvsvb94 1 year ago
@luvsvb94 have you ever heard of sarcasm?
WhoTheMandotcom 1 year ago
@WhoTheMandotcom im sorry but that in no way sounded like sarcasm
luvsvb94 1 year ago
@luvsvb94 thats the problem with text i guess. lol. only an idiot would make that comment seriously.
WhoTheMandotcom 1 year ago
He's an old racist asshole from Texas, plain & simple.
thirdeaglebooksliar 1 year ago
How stubborn can you be?
polsk20 1 year ago
you cant win with conspiracy theorists.........there all in on it!....the media!....the government!!.....the persident!!....the aleins!......the Jews!........9/11 was an inside job!....Al - QUaeda is made up then here is made up then here !! !!
DjBobbyLosAngeles 1 year ago
This idiot got completely slammed by AC. Cooper matched him point by point with actual FACTS and all this guy kept saying I need to see it. Well this is the problem with these loons, even when u give them actual proof, sign statements, verivication, etc, they say its not enough lol. Of course they dont have a SINGLE shred of proof Obama was born anywhere but America. They wont believe all the facts thrown out, but want people to just believe them with no evidence on their side. Odd!
fctiger74 1 year ago