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  • see you at Metaltown!

  • see you at Graspop Metal Meeting 2012 Guys \,,/

  • Fortarock!!!!!

    

  • I liked it but never heard of it

  • see you at Roskilde festival 2012 guys!

    

  • They are now confirmed for Maryland Deathfest, adn Chaos In Tejas 2012!!!

  • 2:20 seconds, typical grindcore. fucking losermusic

  • Thumbs up if you are here because of Roskilde festival!

  • 2012 WACKEN AND SINGER IS KEIJO NIINIMAA FROM ROTTEN SOUND!!

  • R.I.P

  • watch

  • Graspop 2012 :D

  • Can't wait to finally see Nasum at Graspop Metal Meeting next year.

  • @CounterMike Yeah they were just confirmed at Wacken 2012! Fuck yeah, ill be there.

  • woa12?!

  • ugh.. grindcore is dif then gore, deathcore,. all that shit.. everyone is ignorant.. you cant compare nasum to bfmv.. they are dif genres..

  • @57world57 Grindcore is a derivative of Death Metal... Not metalcore

  • didnt this guy die

  • @57world57 Yes. The singer died in the big tsunami in South East Asia. They are doing a 20th anniversary tour with the original lineup and the singer of Rotten Sound is gonna fill in for vocals.

  • NASUM confirmed for obscene extreme 2012 today!

  • @Rossmcg1 And Fortarock 2012!

  • @Rossmcg1 why the fuck does that shit have to be over seas ): i wished it was in LA

  • a fuckin epic track !

  • Tuning is A?

  • Blank Tv Y u no 360?

  • tsunami de mierda

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  • its not strictly relevant, but the cover of this blood duster album (dont know which) really scares me

  • NASUM- nejvíc grind-HC kapelka

  • In the land without kings.Feel the wrath.

  • heah...trolling each other on youtube..how mature...let me get it clear..nowadays,grindcore is more to the message..their stand..emo is more to a love songs in heavy way..and it is a trend nowadays..boys think by listening to band like parkway drive,bullet for my valentines and etc,they'll be a pussy magnet..and deathcore to,nowadays most of this deathcore and'so call' emo band looks just an inch from being a girl..that's why the old school metalheads hates them..the point is,those genre evolves

  • kill the emo bands....!!!and play GRINDCORE.....!!!

  • R.I.P

  • nomorecakes is an emo cock sucker

  • @darkmatter616 lol first emo is a genre of music u fuck tard, and second i can already tell what u look like, ur eitehr a middle to late 20 year old who is fat as fuck but covers it up by growing some fuckin faggy ass beard and have alot of piercings so that people will look at ur hideous face instead of ur fat ass self...go get a real job, or get married, u fuck stick

  • @nomorecakes yes, tosin abasi is in multiple bands (animals as leaders and T.R.A.M. No, he is not in born of osiris. Im dead serious look it up lol. My point was that you are a douche for giving two shits about peoples appearance, let alone trying to guess by their musical tastes. I don't "troll" people, just imparting my honest opinion.

  • exellent damage...hope to release that kind of stuff on Independenza

  • i bet you all that in live they sound much powerful and better.

  • nice one, but i prefer cover of this song by Benighted

  • Legends never die!!!

    Nasum Phucking Rules!

  • At least they support Recycling

  • nice lyrics, fucking awesome song

  • @Meldriin Maybe because people have individual tastes of music. In my opinion 90% of the music i hear on the radio is disgusting. Why, because they just sound bad to my ear okay. And Nasum isnt obviously best music to get into the world of screamed/distortion/death-voca­ls. Grindcore is for those people who want something more, for example many Nasums songs have intelligent lyrics which combined with fast and heavy music is something which makes me feel good.

  • @Meldriin want to hear SCREAMING? Listen to Suicide Silence! Or if you want REAL bad ass music, listen to Torsofuck

  • @9robin3 suicide silence? hahaha

  • @xNecropolyptic and also you have to check out the drum kits, people like shalaty and kollias have much larger drum kits with way more range then Greiners, the thing that makes greiner amazing is the fact that he can replicate the same sounds they can except with less of a drum set,

  • @xNecropolyptic the thing is, he is actually, im a drummer and i study the shit out of shalaty, and i have noticed that Greiner has a lot of more complex of beat drum sounds, but i am not dumb enough to say he is a million times better then Shalaty, Kollias, and Mounier, they are all very skilled drummers no matter which way you look at it

  • @nomorecakes August Burns Red are okay, they are metalcore, which is a very poser and emo genre, i dont agree that all core bands are emo, they definately have talent, but nasum are waaay better. Also Doodorz has a point about you not knowing how to spell.

  • @MetalReigns2 At least Metalcore didn't start like that,The first Metalcore band actually formed in 1987 the year the first Grindcore album was released.

  • @meshuggah2727 Yeah, now all of it is generic boring riffs, shitty breakdowns, annoting pseudo-death growls, shitty clean vocals, 12 year old girls loving them to death.

  • @MetalReigns2 I don't really mind that people like those bands, I just don't like those bands and I kind of wish there were more bands that still had the older Metalcore style to them, at least we still have Converge and Integrity.

  • @meshuggah2727 Yeah, converge rules.

  • WOW i wish they palyed in drug lab

  • Mieszko Talarczyk R.I.P.

  • Why is there so much hatered within the metal community, don't get me wrong, nasum are fuckin brilliant, but seriously, if someone doesn't like them, fair play, it's not to everyones tastes. So instead of threatening to rip their balls off and use them as cuff-links, just shrug it off and say "Fair enough, thats his/her oppinion". Don't get into all this childish nonsense.

  • Nasum definitely wasn't grind anymore at this point. This song fucking sucks.

  • Sex Pistols-Punk Rock

    Death-Death Metal

    Metallica-Thrash Metal

    Nasum-Grindcore

    They were true fathers of modern Grindcore and one of the greatest Grindcore bands ever!

  • @w0jciech7 Metallica = Shit Metal XD

  • @DisgorgeITA Todays Metallica suck you've right,but old Metallica I mean 1983-1991 kick ass very fuckin much.

  • ♥ wow

  • I'm dissapointed every band I've heard on Relapse up to this was exceptional. Man Must Die, Revocation, Dying Fetus etc. These guys aren't good at anything that I can hear in this song.

  • @Snortemup Are you serious. . . you cant be can you. There is no way you are serious.

  • @Snortemup Are you for real? Those bands you mentioned have no right to be even mentioned in the same breathe as Nasum!! Nasum is the best band relapse ever signed!! Go check out their other songs and then give yourself a slap for being silly. Sure, this is probably their worst song ever, but its still decent. Nasum dont have very many long songs to make vids for though.

  • nasum has always been incapable of making a shitty song, NASUM!!!!!!!!!!

  • nu ska du sjudas

  • man, i have this cramp in my finger- its trying to make me type "FUCK EVERYBODY'S OPINIONS'' maybe because thats what metal and its little side genre's stand for anyway? why cant we all listen to the song weather we like it or not and SHUT THE FUCK UP! thank you. no hard feelings people but we are not all six years old. if some of you are then your parents are failing.

  • Mieszko, you left a big fucking footprint in the world grindcore. You will never be forgotten \m/ \m/

  • 26 people are emo noobs who don't like good music

  • fuckinbadasscore

  • @666vlexia dude thats not a genre, this is obviously hardcore punk

  • @Sniperz14x i was kinda makin fun of those people who put basically anything in front of -core, besides metalcore, hardcore, and deathcore (the only real ones). love the music tho

  • @666vlexia yea I figured, sorry just felt like trolling :p And yea the music is awesome, just discovered them today.

  • @Sniperz14x its all good :) everyone needs to vent somewhere. why else would god give us his greatest gift of all? (the internet)

  • All Cultures no matter what facet of human existence you want to name ultimately form sub-cultures and this splitting and symmetrical or not so symmetrical splitting depending on population and environment will try in vain to assert it's dominance over the parent. Dumbass human nature really. Just try to accept it and deal with it as best you can until you die.

  • ...what i was getting at in my previous comment is why should you give a shit what that guy thinks? music you hate will always exist and have fans. i mean look at rap and country! wtf is up wit dat shit? who knows! but people like it. so whats the use in trying to fix something you cant?

  • listen. music is music and you guys are arguing on YOUTUBE! listen i will go through a day listening to nasum, as blood runs black, the black dahlia murder, muse, job for a cowboy, creedence clearwater revival then even fucking bela fleck and the flecktones (for those of you who arent familiar with them they are a smooth jazz band with victor wooten on bass and bela fleck playing banjo)! honeslty ill agree that august burns red is not that great overall and has some playing styles i hate but...

  • ANIMAL !

    

  • i dont really like grindcore and i like august burns red but this is no reason to discuss how good the musicians of the bands are like " mine is better than yours blabla" its just childish! listen to the music you like and its good!

  • @oOButlerOo august burns red. theres a disliked comment if i ever seen one.

  • WEAK SHIT

  • tsunasum

  • @o4laf20 haaaa anal cunt

  • I like how the entire comment box is retarded trolls.

  • Dont u think this song sounds pretty hardcore? and i dont mean it in the rude way but in the hxc punk way..

  • My favorite grindcore band, everything they've made is incredibly heavy. they've influenced countless others

  • GAY FAGS LISTEN TO DIS SHIT

  • @KillerTheMessenger

    hahhaha cute mf, you listen to 2 of the most mainstream rappers of them all man, lil wayne and 2pac. and i saw soulja and 50 cent in your favorites aswell xD so you sayin in music is pretty inrelevant. I listen to nasum and much hardcore music, and some hiphop ofc, but not that "wannabe gangster"shit thats in your favorites! so bad hiphop and music, before you criticize other people musictaste you maybe wanna start to listen to music yourself

  • @nyeehmads TOO BAD YO MAMA COULDN'T SAY DA SAME THING WHEN I HAD MY DICK DOWN HER THROAT LAST NITE! LOL

  • @KillerTheMessenger

    is now the time for me to get offended? ohshit you internetwarrior, you got me there

  • WEAK FAGGY EMO MUSIC

  • @KillerTheMessenger Dude get a fucking life you go on every video a talk shit. At least these guy were never raped in prison like your fag idol Lil Wang. P.S. I heard he took it like a bitch.

  • @Metaldisciple666999 EMO FAG DISCIPLE EAT MY COCKMEAT SANDWICH!

  • @KillerTheMessenger I'm still hearing alot of shit talking, admit it you wouldn't do shit if you saw me in real life so keep your fucking mouth shut.

  • @Metaldisciple666999 FAGGOT ASS EMO FREAK GO PLAY IN THE MIDDLE OF A BUSY HIGHWAY

  • @KillerTheMessenger Is that all you can call me ? You know me and you can you can go meet somwhere and settle this and we'll see who the real pussy is.

  • @Metaldisciple666999 WE SETTLE THIS DOWN YOUR MAMA'S PANTIES AND ROTTED CUNT!

  • @KillerTheMessenger Thats what I thought pussy. Go back to sucking dicks and leave the real music to the real men. Bitch ass motherfucker.

  • @Metaldisciple666999 DIS MUSIC IS FOR WEAK PUSSIES LIKE YOU BITCH!!! HAHAHA

  • @KillerTheMessenger I'm the weak one ? I challenged you to meet me somwhere and you just like all your rap bitches, you pussied out. Go fuck yourself you stupid cunt.

  • @KillerTheMessenger WEAK ???????????????? YOU SERIOUSLY DONT KNOW SHIT U IGNORANT FUCKFACE. LISTEN TO BLIND WORLD,THINK,SKITHUS,AND FUCK THE SYSTEM BY THIS FUCKING BAND IT WILL BE 100X STRONGER THAN THE SHIT U LISTEN 2 AND IT WILL MAKE U LOOK LIKE A FUCKING PUSSY THAT U TRUELY ARE, DONT UNDERESTIMATE NASUM BITCH.

  • @KillerTheMessenger you should seriously go shoot ur fucking brains out for calling this emo music.thats like saying deicide is metalcore.get ur facts straight u ignorant fuck.

  • Anybody know what tuning this song is in?

  • @Beholdthesharktopus Dropped A

  • @Vorthess666 Why thank you, good sir.

  • people are really sick, talk about the genre!!!! who give a shit about genre? just focus about the lyrics, about what this guys said...it's hilarious..... they said it at the end : the pain is my gain...

  • ANYONE ELSE TIRED OF YOUTUBE BASHING? WE GET TWO WAYS TO TALK TO PEOPLE WE DONT KNOW. BE NICE, OR INSULT THEM. MOST PEOPLE TAKE THE LATTER ROUTE BECAUSE ITS EASIER. THIS IS A GOOD REASONING AS TO WHY OUR MODERN WORLD IS GOING TO SHIT. WHERE DID THE COMMUNICATION GO? WE NEED A REVOLUTION SOON. WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER IN STRENGTH. FIGHTING NOT ONLY WEAKENS OUR BOND BUT IT WEAKENS THE INDIVIDUAL. I AM GOING TO START THIS REVOLUTION HERE AND NOW. IF YOU AGREE THUMBS UP AND SPREAD THE WORD.

  • song is great, but its their slowest song on the album! When I first heard of Nasum, I was told they were brutally grindcore, then I saw this as my first listen and was just... well not what I expected. Later on I heard Helvete in its entirety and HOLY SHIT! Then I got Shift and HOLY SHIT! Anyway, as a first listen to Nasum, this isnt the best. Any other song off any album and you got yourself some INTENSE grindcore!

  • noob question but what was the video that had pikachu in it for a brief second i thought it was this band but i guess i was wrong. i remember it was a grind core band though.

  • i dont think grindcore that bad! hardcore, metalcore & deathcore is suck!

    grindcore play fast badass drum!!

  • @BokMETAL Grindcore play fast badass drum and doesn't afraid of anything!!!!

  • @BokMETAL metalcore has one of the best drummers in the business with Matt Greiner from August Burns Red...

  • @nomorecakes Who gives a shit about faggots burn red ? Nasum fuck owns. Long live Nasum.

  • @Metaldisciple666999 lmao did you come up with that one by urself? lol

  • @nomorecakes Yea I also came up with you after I fucked your mom. Now go listin to your wannabe metal band and suck a dick.

  • @Metaldisciple666999 lmao ur good at insulting people you should teach a class xD

  • @nomorecakes Thank you I'll probably go throught with that.

  • @nomorecakes August Burns Red fucking sucks. Metalcore sucks. You done yet?

  • @Doodorz no cause its an opinion u have to be half or full fledged retarded to think saying metalcore sucks mean it sucks lol, ABR does not suck they are very talented, and thats not an opinion, another fact is that matt greiner could shit on this drummer with 1 stick, i dnt think this band is bad, cause all music has talent, im just not closed minded like u are, which is why no one respects ur opinion :)

  • @nomorecakes I'm not close minded. I just don't like shitty music. I have an extremely wide taste in music. I just don't like shit. get over it.

  • @Doodorz ok then open minded man because ur soo smart and kno everything about music, tell me why ABR is shitty? please explain why they have one of THE BEST DRUMMERS in the world, amazing guitarists and bassist who is unreal, and a vocalist who has been on tour non stop for over 5 years and his voice is still as amazing as it was when he began, there is nothing shitty about ABR u just have a personal preference against them, does not make it fact u fuckin ignorant retard

  • @nomorecakes Because they're emo.

    Can you shut the fuck up now? Also their drummer sucks. How the fuck did your pussy ass even end up on a nasum youtube video? Just get off please. You can't handle this type of music.

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  • @Doodorz because their emo? ur a fucking retard hahahah emo is a style of music u fuckin idiot not a way people dress. sescond THEY DNT EVEN DRESS SCENE or as you call it "emo" again u sound more stupid with every comment you say, finally i was on Nasum video cause i like Nasum, i just happened to see people bashing ABR and thought hey i have to correct this people, bu then i ran into hellen keller over there and cause ur soo dumb hellen keller= you

  • @nomorecakes I can't read half the shit you're saying, and what the fuck does hellen keller have to do with you being a retard and liking a shitty emo band?

  • @Doodorz haha good excuse for losing this argument, but ill dumb it down for you, hellen keller was blind deaf and dumb and its pretty obvious your blind, because u think they are emo, deaf because u think they suck, and dumb because the majority of ur argument is something my 11 year old brother would say, i hope that cleared things up, but i dnt want this to be a name calling argument, the facts are that ABR is really talented and good, with a good fan base, and me and other fans love them :)

  • @nomorecakes I love how you call me dumb yet you have the english skills of a fucking 3rd grader. And what's really pathetic about that is that I just learned how to speak, type and read english two years ago. I'm going to assume you're a 14 year illiterate american drop-out that has the excuse "it saves time". Riiiight.

    This is why nobody likes kids from america. They're fucking STUPID. ADR is a shit band. Metalcore fans are all posers too, so nobody gives a shit about their fanbase.

  • @Doodorz lol, brosef, u will learn how to type using txting and computer terms eventually, second ur a hypocrite, this isnt original metal either, this is thrash, which makes everyone who listens to this "posers" also, u need to go back to ur country and learn what hypocrite means, second America is the number 1 country even with out shitty economy, u have prolly just been taught that america sucks...and ill give you a pre lesson u=you ur= your prolly=probably txting= texting... hope it helped

  • @nomorecakes For one, don't tell anyone to learn how to type. You only text like that if you text slow as fuck. Two, who the fuck was talking about original metal? Three, this isn't thrash. It's grindcore you fucking moron. Four, yeah america is number one, but you don't do shit for your country so you're obsolete. Five, you don't even know what a hypocrite is kid.

    Also a lesson on how to be a retard isn't necessary (:

  • @Doodorz lol ok then dude im sorry its grindcore, which is a another form of metal, how can u say metalcore is wannabe metal without grindcore being wannabe metal also haha ur smart

  • @nomorecakes Because grindcore wasn't made up by poser emo kids like Bullet for my Valentine

  • @Doodorz and niether is metalcore lmfao...thanks for proving my point :)

  • @nomorecakes Give me a metalcore band that aren't emo. I bet you can't. I bet you five dollars your pussy asian ass can't.

  • @Doodorz LMFAO u fuckin idiot this is why u fail, first of all Emo is a genre of music in the fuckin 90's there are very few actual emo bands out today, second, ABR wear polos, and are all cleaned shaven with few tats, if what i think ur definition of emo is dark hair, blackened eyes, then they are not emo, neither is Parkway Drive, u fail at trolling

  • @nomorecakes Get at me with the idiot insult when you learn how to FUCKING SPELL.

    Second of all, emo is also a trend. SHIT CHANGES. Get over it kid. Your faggot bands are emo. Stop denying it queer. You shouldn't even be on a fucking nasum video. Your pussy ears forced you to turn the volume down low so get the fuck out of here with your emo shit.

  • @Doodorz lol no its not what u say is emo is actually called scene, again u sound dumb talking, w.e ur from the way they teach u music is fuckin retarded, nasum has been one of my favorite bands for a while, ur just an ignorant fuckin 12 year old haha, get real man, u need a reality check

  • @Doodorz, I fucking love Nasum. And Napalm Death. And Parkway Drive. And August Burns Red. And Suffocation. And Necrophagist. Am I an emo pussy?

    Also, 3 metalcore bands that aren't emo:

    Chimaira

    Killwhitneydead

    Animosity

  • @DavesAwesomeChannel You play guild wars, so yes, theoretically you are a pussy.

    Killwhitneydead is emo

    Animosity is emo

    Chimaira is not metalcore.

  • @Doodorz You took the time to read my profile, I'm honoured you put that much effort into me and finding out what I do and do not do. It's all very romantic, don't you think? <3

    Also, I can see that music elitism has unfortunately deafened you to sense. I'm sorry you feel that your music is far superior to everyone elses music. It must be quite a sad existence. :/

  • @DavesAwesomeChannel I'm not an elitist. Emo music just fucking sucks. If clicking on someones name and taking a glance at the first video in their profile takes effort, then you're pretty fucking slow bro.

    I listen to lots of music. Not just metal, kid :)

  • @Doodorz

    Those bands are deathcore, not emo.

    Just sayin'

  • @LostTheGameXD Deathcore is emo bro. Show me one deathcore band that aren't a bunch of emo posers.

  • @Doodorz

    Its all about the music.

    Emo music and deathcore are two very different types of music. Not that I particularly like either of them.

    If Nasum had girly side bangs and wore eyeliner and skinny jeans (lol) I'd still like them as long as the music still stayed the same.

    I dont give a fuck what a band looks like, haha, why would I?

  • @Doodorz ya you need to realize that emo is a style of music not a way people dress, emo was originally from the early 80's to early 90's was real emo music, bands with skinny jeans and flippy hair are not emo, math rock comes from OG emo music like FOT, sorry to say but, metalcore, deathcore, and Nasums aka grindcore, all stem off the same genre of OG hardcore music from the early to mid 90's, you have no clue what ur talkinga bout, and i kno ur gunna wiki everything now, learn your history

  • @nomorecakes Grindcore is an expansion of Crust Punk. The term grindcore was coined in the early 80's by Napalm Death. Grind has nothing to do with first wave Emo.

  • @Unframed crust punk is a form of original hardcore that came from the original emo/punk scene of the 80s man

  • @nomorecakes No, emo didn't start shit. Punk has it's foundations and prototypes dating back to the 60s and 70s, Emo was a genre made up by a few hardcore bands members when they felt the genre was going stale. Emo has nothing to do with Grindcore at all. Actually, Emo started in the mid-80s. Napalm Death, the band that coined the term Grindcore and pioneered the sound (along with others) started in 1981.

  • @nomorecakes WTF CRUST PUNK HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EMO

  • @Unframed i kno dude, but the original emo AND hardcore wave started everything that is here today, emo and hardcore came wayy before grindcore, which means emo and hardcore came before crust punk, some of the earliest forms of crust punk are Amebix, but they didnt turn full crust punk till the late 80s dude to the heavy influence and infusion of bands like the misfits which are some of the earliest forms of the hardcore and emo scene.

  • @nomorecakes

    hahhaahahahahahahahahahahahaha­

  • @nomorecakes did you say the misfits are related to emo? ITS BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Doodorz BFMV are not emo. a lot of their fan are emo, but not the bandmember. bring me the horizon are emo. anyway.... i hate when emo kid claim they listen to grindcore, when they dont know a shit about what is REAL grindcore

  • @nomorecakes Metalcore is ''wannabe'' . . . okay maybe ''wannabe'' is not the right word, i listen to metalcore too, but why do you think lil kids listen to it :L the reason is, is cus metal is superior. but i'm not gunna lie i love break downs and metal core is very simple music structure but i personally like it too dude :)

  • @nuttyace haha i got you man, but its not really that simple cause there are a shit ton of metalcore bands that would wipe the floor with any metal band u throw their way, shit Born of Osiris guitarist Tosin Abasi would shit the majority of these guitarist in this genre give or take a couple guitarists i cant think of the names right now. Metalcore is extremely difficult to play, i kno there are some shitty ass bands, but thats to be expected in any genre, its not like every metal band is sick

  • @nomorecakes Tosin Abasi is in animals as leaders, and before that he was in reflux. He was never in born of osiris so you already sound like you have no idea what you're talking about. Labeling bands as "Metalcore" or "Grindcore" or "Emo" is a waste of time cuz most good bands are a mix. Also its pretty lulzy that your insult is to tell someone to get married or get a job... I wont try to guess what u look like bro, but i know without a doubt that you're a complete tool. Please die prematurely.

  • @b0neneedle420 tosin is in BOO , please please please understand what your talking about before you try to troll on youtube, and oblivion1112001@yahoo.com thats what i look like, check facebook :) tosin is in multiple bands

  • @nomorecakes Yeah, as a live member. He was never an official member.

  • Great band ! Really cool music!

  • seth from anal cunt said the singer from this band was a huge asshole at some show. idk but he found out he died and wrote a song called tsunasum. im torn here, if it was anyone else it would be hilarious, but then again i hate douchebag musicians, except seth putnam of course

  • grindcore is gay -___- death metal, black metal, brutal death, but hardcore and grindcore is -________-

  • @chipaputalaguea Lame comment. There are good bands and shit bands in every genre

  • @chipaputalaguea metal is gay comparated to the true grindcore

  • @TheHATEMF troll detected !! your awesome dude, your fuckn awesome xDDDD how is possible the screaming bitches of grindcore are better than metal !!!???

  • @chipaputalaguea lol dude stfu. each genre has shit bands and great bands. death metal, black metal, brutal death have shit tonna shitty shit bands. fail comment.

  • Fucking Badass song!

  • Is this band still going??? I was very sad when i heard that the singer died in tsunami!!!

  • @piotrods there are varying opinions on who created grind , many will tell you it was REPULSION

  • What I don't get why is the bass player sitting on that bar stoole??? anybody know???

  • Nasum. Grindcore 2.0

  • nasum was better when the played true grindcore, like the oldschool one