I like my music to be cool or beautiful. Unfortunately, I happen to think this is neither. Though I have immense respect for the capability. I am a visual artist so I think in visual terms. This to me is like a very technically well crafted painting of a uninteresting subject matter.
Why is everybody bitching and moaning? Derryl is a fine player and a hell of a nice guy, and a really great Christian, to boot. He is conscientious and hard working, making not much above a living wage. He's humble and nice, and he's helping us to understand things, some of us, those of us who appreciate him, that WE night be interested in. I have never met anyone so deserving of praise and friendship among guitarist as he. AtanasovPeter, The LORD humble you through Derryl.
Great sound, amazing ability, and nice calming, super-intelligent approach. Not surprising that many Earthlings seem unable to deal emotionally. Loving the vids. Thanks to all concerned.
Smokin! Obviously stole a few pages from Holdsworth's book, but his execution is flawless. Seems to know what he's talking about as well. String dampener or not, it takes some serious left hand technique to execute this stuff. And so what if some of it's memorized. Any great jazz musician will tell you that they memorized solos as part of the learning process.
I think it's great to see someone who is into the Holdsworth thing.
How many people out there are just playing the same old pentatonic licks??(Me for example!LOL!)
...very inspiring solo work...must agree with Chromotype about the cheese horn synth sequenced stuff,but it certainly does what it's supposed to do...provide a backround for inspired practice.
Your comments are angering me greatly. Derryl is an awesome person. What other guitarist would be spending time teaching people things with this much detail? Please how about shutting your mouth before embarassing yourself further!
I never can understand this argument - the string dampener is improving your playing experience, so what do you have to complain about? If you're so amazing that you never ever need one then fair play to you. We're all very happy for you. Still, if it makes it easier using a dampner then why not use it, no point making it harder than it has to be
If the drummer is losing the time, ir the singer is going out of tune, and you're playing is a style of music where perfection is order of the day (such as fusion) then yeah, people will fix it digitally. I'm not saying that people should learn to fall back on trickery, but if an album goes out with a bad musician playing on it I'd RATHER they fixed it up as opposed to it just sounding bad.
You're fucking stupid. I'd rather just listen to someone who can play. There are plenty of people out there who can play without people digitally fixing their mistakes. The rest of the people should get another job.
You really are stupid. You reached my level of maturity when you called me elitist. Name calling is name calling douchebag, or didn't you get that far in school? Maybe you should go back and you can learn something about music while you're at it.
Actually, elitst is an applicable term here according to the dictionary as you openly state that you'd only listen to people who have a high enough standard of technique. And we were NOT talking about musical ability, we were talking about technique. There can be good musicians who have terrible technique, and vice versa.
Also, 1 last thing, by taking a quick glance at your profile, I can see thet most people agree with my sarcastic statement "you're fucking stupid". Happy trolling!
I never said anything about not listening to people who don't have a high enough standard of technique. So I guess my assertation that you are stupid was correct. Looks like you were the only one who was name calling.
Wow you are stupid. I said I would rather listen to someone who could play complex fusion rather than it be fixed by a computer. It was in context with what you said. You want to hear hacks play complex music and then have computers fix it, and I said I'd rather hear someone who can play. That doesn't mean I don't listen to people who don't play complex music. I'd rather listen to Neil Young than Guthrie Govan because I think Neil is a better guitarist, but obviously Govan has more technique.
And I never said I wanted to hear players who fix stuff digitally. Imagine this situation - you pay 20 quid for an Allan Holdsworth or Shawn Lane album. But, unfortunatly, for whatever reason, their technique was not up to par during the recording and they were hitting open strings left right and centre. Would you rather that they patched it up a bit digitally, or would you pay for an album that sounds bad?
First off they wouldn't do that so your situation is bunk, and even if they did I'd want to hear it as it was played. Anyone can take an album and process it digitally to hide mistakes, but it kind of defeats the point. Where is the soul in that? If you can't play a part right either don't play it, get someone else to, or play it your best and accept the fact you ain't perfect.
@ibanezbloke If Holdsworth recorded two solo passes on a tune: A perfect, but uninspired solo, & a -thrilling- solo with a mistake on it, I'd want to hear the thrilling solo , with the mistake included. It's called listening to someone play. Much of the greatest music ever made is imperfect / (human), while much of the worst music today is technically perfect / (machine).
@iba:This's been debated for decades: Some prefer music to sound 'good' no matter how it was performed...thus distortion & poor high-end response can be virtues. Others prefer true performance: If the sax was screechy, the piano was tinny, the bass was out of tune, we want to hear it. If it's worth listening to, we note the faults as part of discerning enjoyment. If it's not worth listening to, we turn it off. There's plenty good music out there, we don't need to listen to 'fixed' bad music.
That is something i am seeing more and more these days i think if you can't play it cleanly then there is more practice to be, i don't use one and never will.
@neoclassic09 I wish critics would name who they -do- like so we could understand their perspective. Some of the greatest old-school players: Howard Roberts, George Van Eps, Tommy Tedesco, Herb Ellis, Bob Bain, Scotty Moore... used dampers when it suited the music. If -they- weren't playing like men, no one ever has!
@n: Pianos have dampers, why not guitar? What allows the most options in your style?: If you use open strings, no damper. Old-school jazzmen believe scales & chords should be transposable, so they never sound open strings. Thus, a damper's technical advantage has no down-side for them..it allowed fingerings that are impossible if a player has to worry about muting un-played strings. It allowed Herb Ellis to play w/the Oscar Peterson Trio: Nothing's more challenging than that !
He really looks like he's having a blast playing at the beginning. I don't know why he seems to get so many crappy comments under his videos though. I personally find his playing really interesting musically and amazing technically. To top it off, he's a really great guy too. I've emailed him a few times, and he always was very helpful and polite (why does that seem like such a rare thing these days...)
@WalkinDude91 Definitely. I bought Cool Legato Phrases 1, and got a defective copy. He sent me a new one in the mail immediately, and was really really nice through email. Derryl seems like a really nice guy with loads of passion for his playing. I'd love to live somewhere close to him, so I'd be able to get real life lessons from him. Seems to be a great guy and a great teacher too!
And his playing is way interesting! Derek Taylor, Holdsworth, Derryl, Garsed, Lane... All amazing guitairsts!
@jan1080 Yes, I've known Derryl for a number of years and he's always be the perfect gentleman. I'm just hoping he'll do anther CD.. even if it's a video only option. His Visions and Dreams is one of those albums that just grows on you. Really subtle phrasing and vibrato.... oh and scary licks!
is that what they said about Charlie Parker ,too. I mean parker really only played in Bb , right, A Hole? LOL your a moron . Italian Americans did as much for Jazz as Blacks look a t Pat Martino he could out play horn players on GTR back in the 60s , of course he's not black , so why should he get any credit . You guys are funny
I dont EVER remember anyone stating charlie parker had no soul, he coul swing hard, this guy is just a holdsworth wannabe, simple and true. Jazz IS a melding of classical music and African roots music, this guy is playing neither allan holdsworth said it best about this guy.."Its like looking in the mirror" imitation is NO form of flatery
Vet musician , You are judging this guy by an instructional clip . If you listen to some clips of Derryl's album Dreams and Visions , you'll see his song writting is nothing like Holdsworth. It's more edgy and Rock influenced . Dreams is one of the most listenable Fusion albums ever . not like a Jeff Berlin Album where you think your at a Clinic , thats for sure
I hope he has his own compositional style and Im sure hes a real nice guitarist, and I play as well, Its very impessive on some level that someone has done a virtual autopsy on holdworths lagato style and pushes it as their own. that takes some time, trust me. The polychords holdsworth uses has made complete imitation of his style almost impossible, I do respect him hes doing his own thing, you want to hear someone who wipes his ass with this guy I have two names for you.......SHAWN LANE!!!
the only other guitarist who in my humble opinion that comes close is guthrie govan, not only for his sheer technical mastery but outstanding grasp of DYNAMICS, but if you listen to him you can hear bits of vai, lane and country and jazz influences but so cleverly rolled up that you cannot distinguish one in particular.........stravinsky said it best, "great composers dont imitate, they steal" Dont rip off holdsworth and think nobodys gonna Know......LOL
As musicians do not grow up in a vacuum isn't their playing style a sum product of those influences? Govan is a raft of all the things he's learned, recorded played live and transcribed... no doubt he himself will have borrowed ideas from other players and incorporated them into his playing. No doubt if you posted a video I could pin point the influences in your playing style... but I would not call you a rip off.
I agree fully, and I really have followed mr Gabel. all the way back when george lynch picked him due to a contest he was having, I dislike gabel not because he cant be more he just seems content with imitation........I have studied his touch and musical phrases, sometimes I cant tell the difference between holdsworth and him, Shawn lane was HEAVILY influenced by holdsworth why doesnt he sound like him? he took the journey to find out WHO he is, if gabel did that he would be dangerous.
Let me just add mrs Lauriemonk, for those that play music WE OWE it to each other to be honest with the music we decide to make, I play guitar and I damn well know I can learn a holdsworth solo note for note IF I chose to,I have the technical and cerebral capacity to do so, But I will not, I will not tap like eddie van halen just to be noticed I will continue the pusuit of EXPRESSING MYSELF however long it takes to make MY statement, Im not trying to rip someone off then sell you a DVD.
Actually it's Mr... I can hear what you are saying, but Derryl has been working on his style for years. Like many he's been greatly influenced by the legato movement created by Allan Holdsworth, but he does not "rip him off". Derryl continues to develop his style and I really like it... as I do Holdsworth... but I listen to so much guitar music that I hear significant difference in playing style and musical composition between both.
Compositionally I agree, Do me a favor..................and I am serios about this, by the way I am sorry I believed you to be a female my mistake. Go to the videos of gabel, holdsworth and shawn lane any ones will do and watch their FACES I know this seems odd but look closely...........what do you see? something that is MEMORIZED has a different emotional effect than something that is FELT by the soul...............tell me what YOU see? please keep in mind this is an observation NOT a judgment
I've seen Shawn Lane and Allan Holdsworth live and I get totally different things from them than I do from Derryl. I also don't think the faces have anything to do with it. I've seen lots of players who contort their faces and others who do not, I never think the guy with the contorted face must be better player than the on who does not contort his face. I've seen Derryl on videos jamming for days... it certainly subconscious playing... you are reading too much into this!
@lauriemonk come on...really? Derryl is lots of classes below Lane and Lane was below Holdsworth.Do we even have to talk about this?Holdsworth practicly invented fusion guitar playing i thought we all agreed on this.
@lauriemonk you really believe that? what you like and musical ability is separate things.There are people who say Kirk Hammet from Metallica is better than Allan Holdsworth does your method work still?
@AtanasovPeter it might work for them but it does not work for me... it's a point of view. Don't forget also that this is a demo track for the techniques that are on the DVD. Seriously, I would not get worked up about it. Just enjoy the music for what it is.
@AtanasovPeter lauriemonk is absolutely right.with the line ,,derryl is lots of classes below lane,, u disqualified urself and proved everyone to have absolutely no clue at all what music is about.if u post stuff like that ALWAYS put a In myopinion in front of such words so at least u limit the rubbish comin out to urself.
@Faststick Fuck you...to you and all like you.If for a second you believe that all you like are equal you are morons.The 1st on my top list are people who really innovated something.You fucking think that every good musician you like could be named among Innovators like Allan Holdsworth you are a fucking moron.I am not your teacher go pay for education and leave me alone!
@AtanasovPeter What is your problem man? Why are you bitching and whining on a video arguing about music? Music is meant to be enjoyed, so just shut up and enjoy it! It doesn't matter who the best player is because it's different for everyone, it doesn't matter who people think is innovative, just enjoy the music!
@Botdra I don't think who is innovative because you don't need to think it.Its out there in history because you don't see anyone playing like Holdsworth in the early 1970's do you?Today lots of people try to copy him just like this guy.But they all fail because the unique tone that Holdsworth makes is not from processors and effects like all try to copy.All is in his fingers and you can't copy that.Enjoy your copy cats i will listen to the real thing.Good Luck!
@AtanasovPeter You're completely missing my point. I'm saying it doesn't matter, just enjoy it. Just because his style is similar to Holdsworth, doesn't mean he's trying to copy him. Lessons like this show you ideas, opportunities to explore music more. If you think it's just for everyone to copy Allan Holdsworth you don't understand. And who are you to say that we shouldn't listen to him, only Holdsworth? He's a great player, and he enjoys music, unlike you, who only enjoys certain players.
@AtanasovPeter I'm not trying to, I understand everyone has their own musical tastes and that's totally fine. I'm just saying you don't have to tell other people that we shouldn't listen to this guy because he's supposedly just trying to copy Holdsworth.
@AtanasovPeter Get a freakin' life. I like Holdsworth as much as anyone. He himself closed down his forums for just such bullshit as you are perpetrating.
@Hypnus9 I stopped commenting this long time go....you want to start it again?Fuck off and leave me alone.You have your opinions witch i think are idiotic but fine think what you want and leave me the fuck alone.Go Pray to your imaginary Gods or whatever you do like talking to imaginary friends.
@AtanasovPeter Well, if you want to believe that the LORD my God is imaginary, that is to you, but I guarantee you that you will most definitely discover otherwise. Repent.
@Hypnus9 and if standart outside playing and such things that every jazz/fusion musician does is something witch you have no idea of and Derryl helps you understand a little it's your problem and it doesn't mean all the rest of us haven't learned from far more greater explained sources long time ago.I mean wtf every second guitar player witch learned some things thinks he is a teacher?It's one thing to learn few scales and play and other to educate people how to understand chord changes and such
@AtanasovPeter Where is your playing, since you have such a debase opinion of everyone, friend? I notice you have only one video uploaded, and it isn't even your own playing, but that of Allan Holdsworth. I can appreciate, to a small degree that you don't like rock music, but to go slamming every other musician is BS. If you were a superior musician, say on a par with holdsworth, you would encourage younger players, and not demean them.
@Hypnus9 I don't like to put any of my playing anymore because first of all i don't owe it to anybody and when i play i do it for myself and i do not need listeners,I debase many people because the general level of musicianship is going down every few years.I am a young player myself but i have gone from Coltrane,Miles,Parker to Holdsworth,Lane,Gambale and many other musics.And when you see the general level of musicianship those people that innovated so many things starting in the 60's
@AtanasovPeter Now Peter, let's try to be friends here. How long have you been playing? I, for one, have been playing music for 34+ years, and I believe that music is getting better. Now, let me clarify something here: I don't listen to popular music at all...I haven't since I was eighteen years old. I was a Van Halen fanatic in my teens, but when I was eighteen, I began listening to Chick Corea, Pat Metheny and many other innovators, such as the ones you referred to in your post. God bless you.
@Hypnus9 I've been involved in music 10 years.It's getting better for the old guys who started 30-40 years ago."To the stars" is just the perfect CCEB album i can listen to it 24/7.And Van Halen actually has a good tone in his fingers unlike Steve vai,joe satriani and the rest clowns that get super attention.Steve vai has poor technique,poor writing skills,Poor improvisation skills,Bad machine-like tone and in the end of the day to the world he is the best.I do not wish to talk anymore.I shut up
@AtanasovPeter Steve Vai, bad technique??? You're one of those jerks who hate certain musicians on principal...because they are rich, famous, popular, etc.....or because you hear some other idiot ranting about nonsense and you mindlessly agree.
@deepislandboy yes bad technique and computer tone.a musician with his status should be able to do more things.regular musicians can play all over crazy modulating chord progressions so if you are super star like he is now i believe he should make little more interesting harmony but if he did he would not being able to play over it.that's why he sticks to the little harmony satriani showed him.go listen to some Holdsworth and then talk asshole listen to some soloing improvisation and harmony
@AtanasovPeter Let me also say that music is like food. We can choose whatever we like, and refrain from that which we do not. But, if someone sets a dish in front of you, it is only good ettiquette to eat what is before you without complaing, for the workman is worth his wage. Again, God bless you.
@Hypnus9 and the 70's.When you look people who came out the 80's are getting to be little innovating and little copy cats and after the 90's it is totally copy cats and nothing new.So if you are only a fan that can play an instrument and you like to copy the music that you like no problem there but when we start to talk musicians that are worshiped are total imbeciles and copy cats.The public is getting more and more stupid that's why the cheesy stupid music is popular.
@AtanasovPeter Peter, I think you need to be a little more direct with your comments. Let people know who you revere and it will become more transparent to the observer. I for one know that Derryl does not sit at home all day saying to himself I want to be a copycat and rip some guy off to make a living. Derryl is his own man, he's been doing this for ages. He didn't get picked by George Lynch to play on his CD for nothing. This playing is no detraction to your playing either.
@lauriemonk It really doesn't matter what i say i will keep my opinion to myself because in the end i am gonna keep my point of view and you will keep yours.Case closed.
Derryl is a fine player but to mention him in the same breath as Allan Holdsworth is ridiculous. I think if Derryl made his tone a bit less processed he would make more of an impression. Why do these new fusion guys have to process their sound so much? You can't hear the fingers anymore. Indeed Allan's tone is very processed but it doesn't sound like it. He almost sounds like an Oboe at times. I love Allans tone with UK and Bruford. Also,Holdsworth lovers would appreciate Ollie Halsall of Patto.
My theory is completely focused on tone from the fingers and the wood of the neck with distortion form the amp to maintain purity of ton. over processing for me defeats what I am looking for, your right about Holdsworth, quite processed but you can still hear that there is a lot of tone from his fingers and the wood when he is using a distorted sound.
I got my theory from Shawn Lane another tone phenomenon.
the other one is Vet Musician LOL if you go to his web site you'll see his interest is only Shawn lane . in his friends list it says "My Shawn " i thought that was cute LOL
The instructional video for holdsworth was kind of cool . Holdsworth is an Ear player and has fret boards drawn out of the patterns he uses . Most people recognise them as Mel Min Harm Min etc but he doesn't he has code names for them . it goes to show knowing the sound of a mode and using it ,has little to do with the Technical name of the mode About Shawn Lane you have good taste Vet Musician
iwant to say something about what jazz is . Jazz is a cross between Classical Ragtime, American blues , country and folk music . It's a melting pot . Girshwin played Ragtime and classical , and was said to have come up with the archtype of the first "Standard" with ii v cycling 'i got rhythm i hate when people consider Jazz simply a black Art form . it's like they took a stupid college course and think they know it all Country and Irish Folk music had alot to do with it too
Your probably the one that needs a college course my friend. Jazz originated in this country at the beggining of the 20th century in African American communities in the southern united states from a mixture of African and European music traditions, IM ITALIAN and trust me ..we had nothing to do with it until we got to ellis Island by that time that shit was well on its way, people have even tried connecting it DIRECTLY to africa but its simple....No U.S.A.....No Jazz
Good, but fusion guitar for me is just an attempt of the guitar taking over the sax and reviving 'bop. It's technically impressive, but the melodies never stick in your head, and the improvs are always recycled licks that have already been thought of, a little empty
That's like saying . holdsworth and Sean lane really were nothing either . Sean Lane as much as he over played could write a ballad with alot of melody and ability to evoke emotion . Looking at an instructional and judging a player is like going to a music store , and judging based on what someone is noodling . It's really about Music Sythasis Darryls Dreams Album is very easy to listen to in compairison to most fusion
I disagree with sean lane, he was very melodic with it!. Alan holdsworth is another one, he does nothing for me at all.
I am only giving my oppinion, your all free to dismiss it as you see fit!. Music is subjective. I am not say8ing I am right and you are wrong, just that it does nothing at all for me!.
It is a shame you Shawn And Allan don't musically do it for you i find it amazing and opened an new world for me.
Your among the few people who express there opinions in the right way stating what you feel but not slating the artist, i see bad comments about Shawn and Allan all over the place it really gets to me.
Thanks for your opinion, it is quite interesting to see someone who thinks this completely differently to me, thanks.
@joebot1 shawn lane was a master and allan holdsworth is too derryl is a great technician and makes me wanna get better and his teacher marshall harrison makes me want to quit lol
I had to adjust the action when I got it but I was able to drop it super low with no buzz. Couldn't be more pleased with this guitar. It practically plays itself and sounds great! Thanks Carvin!
Great technique but where's the soul?
WhiteNacho 1 month ago
this is so sweet. any real guitarist cannot not respect this
FunkinlikeaDuncan 1 month ago
I know it might not be to everyone's liking, but I would pay money just to have that tone patch of his. It's like liquid porn fusion GOLD.
ghughghugh 4 months ago
this is like striking gold.
TangerineGroovin 4 months ago
I Love His Playing and I..Hate His Tone ! :D
Jhey172 1 year ago
niiiiiiice
bobbygoesbig 1 year ago
lol i like his face
assfuck37 1 year ago
very good music
olisan29 1 year ago
flawless playing!!
todomusika 1 year ago
Fuck, that Carvin is so killer looking.
Justasssu 1 year ago
I like my music to be cool or beautiful. Unfortunately, I happen to think this is neither. Though I have immense respect for the capability. I am a visual artist so I think in visual terms. This to me is like a very technically well crafted painting of a uninteresting subject matter.
schmitmg1 1 year ago
do you recommend any of his cool legato dvd's for beginners?his stuff seem to be very difficult
UnnaturalGR 1 year ago
@UnnaturalGR I recommend talking to Derryl direct He can advise you on the best option. He also gives skype lessons.
lauriemonk 1 year ago
@UnnaturalGR No! LOL Probably not even for intermediate level. This is pro-level stuff to be sure.
Sweeper5 1 year ago
@UnnaturalGR I suggest you start off with CLP1. I am not Derryl, I have just played through most of his instructional stuff.
OpulenceOfKnowledge 1 year ago
I keep expecting him to just saw "awwww screw it, I'm just gonna play some donkey kong country music!"
TimJMorrison 1 year ago
hey are those carvin H22 pickups?
bodomdays 1 year ago
Why is everybody bitching and moaning? Derryl is a fine player and a hell of a nice guy, and a really great Christian, to boot. He is conscientious and hard working, making not much above a living wage. He's humble and nice, and he's helping us to understand things, some of us, those of us who appreciate him, that WE night be interested in. I have never met anyone so deserving of praise and friendship among guitarist as he. AtanasovPeter, The LORD humble you through Derryl.
Hypnus9 1 year ago
Great sound, amazing ability, and nice calming, super-intelligent approach. Not surprising that many Earthlings seem unable to deal emotionally. Loving the vids. Thanks to all concerned.
sxmadrid 1 year ago
Nice Carvin!
Great playing
lordsong7 1 year ago
Smokin! Obviously stole a few pages from Holdsworth's book, but his execution is flawless. Seems to know what he's talking about as well. String dampener or not, it takes some serious left hand technique to execute this stuff. And so what if some of it's memorized. Any great jazz musician will tell you that they memorized solos as part of the learning process.
bobbygoesbig 1 year ago
he is an impossible guitarist knows so much hes like rusty cooley jazz style,yahB)
brandoncarrier1 1 year ago
SICKENING ideas. So great. and SO much more fun than neo-classical shred blahhhhh.
JonathanReichert 1 year ago
anybody with a holdsworth model on here tell me some pros and cons please i'm looking into getting one not sure if i want the h2 or the fatboy
brandon5pennies 2 years ago
this guy is sick ....great playing ,great phrasing .the works
nemtall 2 years ago
Great playing!
I think it's great to see someone who is into the Holdsworth thing.
How many people out there are just playing the same old pentatonic licks??(Me for example!LOL!)
...very inspiring solo work...must agree with Chromotype about the cheese horn synth sequenced stuff,but it certainly does what it's supposed to do...provide a backround for inspired practice.
Bravo!
Guitfiddlejase 2 years ago 9
Those horns in the background sound way too whitey....
Chromatype 2 years ago
you dont even need the licks or scales to sound fusion-y, just this guys tone hah!
almostsk8er01 2 years ago
great playing ,
nemtall 2 years ago
Neoclassical,
Your comments are angering me greatly. Derryl is an awesome person. What other guitarist would be spending time teaching people things with this much detail? Please how about shutting your mouth before embarassing yourself further!
CYCLOPSONE 2 years ago
ah another jackass with a string dampener. christ can no one play the guitar like a man anymore?
neoclassic09 2 years ago
may be post some more recent video so we can assess you playing style too?
lauriemonk 2 years ago
I never can understand this argument - the string dampener is improving your playing experience, so what do you have to complain about? If you're so amazing that you never ever need one then fair play to you. We're all very happy for you. Still, if it makes it easier using a dampner then why not use it, no point making it harder than it has to be
ibanezbloke 2 years ago
Well according to that logic all singers should be auto-tuned and all drummers should be quantized because it makes things easier.
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
If the drummer is losing the time, ir the singer is going out of tune, and you're playing is a style of music where perfection is order of the day (such as fusion) then yeah, people will fix it digitally. I'm not saying that people should learn to fall back on trickery, but if an album goes out with a bad musician playing on it I'd RATHER they fixed it up as opposed to it just sounding bad.
ibanezbloke 2 years ago
You're fucking stupid. I'd rather just listen to someone who can play. There are plenty of people out there who can play without people digitally fixing their mistakes. The rest of the people should get another job.
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
That makes you elitist, we clearly have differing opinions and I don;t see either of us changing the others.
Oh, and to reach your apparant level of maturity, "NO, YOU'RE FUCKING STUPID!".
ibanezbloke 2 years ago
You really are stupid. You reached my level of maturity when you called me elitist. Name calling is name calling douchebag, or didn't you get that far in school? Maybe you should go back and you can learn something about music while you're at it.
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
Actually, elitst is an applicable term here according to the dictionary as you openly state that you'd only listen to people who have a high enough standard of technique. And we were NOT talking about musical ability, we were talking about technique. There can be good musicians who have terrible technique, and vice versa.
Also, 1 last thing, by taking a quick glance at your profile, I can see thet most people agree with my sarcastic statement "you're fucking stupid". Happy trolling!
ibanezbloke 2 years ago
I never said anything about not listening to people who don't have a high enough standard of technique. So I guess my assertation that you are stupid was correct. Looks like you were the only one who was name calling.
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
Yes, you did.
"I'd rather just listen to someone who could play" - Sunderlanding, 18.57, 5/1/10
ibanezbloke 2 years ago
Wow you are stupid. I said I would rather listen to someone who could play complex fusion rather than it be fixed by a computer. It was in context with what you said. You want to hear hacks play complex music and then have computers fix it, and I said I'd rather hear someone who can play. That doesn't mean I don't listen to people who don't play complex music. I'd rather listen to Neil Young than Guthrie Govan because I think Neil is a better guitarist, but obviously Govan has more technique.
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
And I never said I wanted to hear players who fix stuff digitally. Imagine this situation - you pay 20 quid for an Allan Holdsworth or Shawn Lane album. But, unfortunatly, for whatever reason, their technique was not up to par during the recording and they were hitting open strings left right and centre. Would you rather that they patched it up a bit digitally, or would you pay for an album that sounds bad?
ibanezbloke 2 years ago
First off they wouldn't do that so your situation is bunk, and even if they did I'd want to hear it as it was played. Anyone can take an album and process it digitally to hide mistakes, but it kind of defeats the point. Where is the soul in that? If you can't play a part right either don't play it, get someone else to, or play it your best and accept the fact you ain't perfect.
Sunderlanding 2 years ago
@ibanezbloke If Holdsworth recorded two solo passes on a tune: A perfect, but uninspired solo, & a -thrilling- solo with a mistake on it, I'd want to hear the thrilling solo , with the mistake included. It's called listening to someone play. Much of the greatest music ever made is imperfect / (human), while much of the worst music today is technically perfect / (machine).
lazur1 1 year ago
@iba:This's been debated for decades: Some prefer music to sound 'good' no matter how it was performed...thus distortion & poor high-end response can be virtues. Others prefer true performance: If the sax was screechy, the piano was tinny, the bass was out of tune, we want to hear it. If it's worth listening to, we note the faults as part of discerning enjoyment. If it's not worth listening to, we turn it off. There's plenty good music out there, we don't need to listen to 'fixed' bad music.
lazur1 1 year ago
That is something i am seeing more and more these days i think if you can't play it cleanly then there is more practice to be, i don't use one and never will.
trevskiw2008 2 years ago
@neoclassic09 I wish critics would name who they -do- like so we could understand their perspective. Some of the greatest old-school players: Howard Roberts, George Van Eps, Tommy Tedesco, Herb Ellis, Bob Bain, Scotty Moore... used dampers when it suited the music. If -they- weren't playing like men, no one ever has!
lazur1 1 year ago
@n: Pianos have dampers, why not guitar? What allows the most options in your style?: If you use open strings, no damper. Old-school jazzmen believe scales & chords should be transposable, so they never sound open strings. Thus, a damper's technical advantage has no down-side for them..it allowed fingerings that are impossible if a player has to worry about muting un-played strings. It allowed Herb Ellis to play w/the Oscar Peterson Trio: Nothing's more challenging than that !
lazur1 1 year ago
He really looks like he's having a blast playing at the beginning. I don't know why he seems to get so many crappy comments under his videos though. I personally find his playing really interesting musically and amazing technically. To top it off, he's a really great guy too. I've emailed him a few times, and he always was very helpful and polite (why does that seem like such a rare thing these days...)
WalkinDude91 2 years ago 21
@WalkinDude91 Definitely. I bought Cool Legato Phrases 1, and got a defective copy. He sent me a new one in the mail immediately, and was really really nice through email. Derryl seems like a really nice guy with loads of passion for his playing. I'd love to live somewhere close to him, so I'd be able to get real life lessons from him. Seems to be a great guy and a great teacher too!
And his playing is way interesting! Derek Taylor, Holdsworth, Derryl, Garsed, Lane... All amazing guitairsts!
jan1080 1 year ago
@jan1080 Yes, I've known Derryl for a number of years and he's always be the perfect gentleman. I'm just hoping he'll do anther CD.. even if it's a video only option. His Visions and Dreams is one of those albums that just grows on you. Really subtle phrasing and vibrato.... oh and scary licks!
lauriemonk 1 year ago
@WalkinDude91 totally with you on that!
violentvendetta1 1 year ago
@WalkinDude91 People are strange, thats why!
pleximanic 4 months ago
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hes very "White"..........no Soul
vetmusician 2 years ago
stfu noob
TruNikkaz 2 years ago
lol a "vanilla milkshake"
louievondoom 2 years ago
is that what they said about Charlie Parker ,too. I mean parker really only played in Bb , right, A Hole? LOL your a moron . Italian Americans did as much for Jazz as Blacks look a t Pat Martino he could out play horn players on GTR back in the 60s , of course he's not black , so why should he get any credit . You guys are funny
McMinnManiac 2 years ago
I dont EVER remember anyone stating charlie parker had no soul, he coul swing hard, this guy is just a holdsworth wannabe, simple and true. Jazz IS a melding of classical music and African roots music, this guy is playing neither allan holdsworth said it best about this guy.."Its like looking in the mirror" imitation is NO form of flatery
vetmusician 2 years ago
Vet musician , You are judging this guy by an instructional clip . If you listen to some clips of Derryl's album Dreams and Visions , you'll see his song writting is nothing like Holdsworth. It's more edgy and Rock influenced . Dreams is one of the most listenable Fusion albums ever . not like a Jeff Berlin Album where you think your at a Clinic , thats for sure
McMinnManiac 2 years ago
I hope he has his own compositional style and Im sure hes a real nice guitarist, and I play as well, Its very impessive on some level that someone has done a virtual autopsy on holdworths lagato style and pushes it as their own. that takes some time, trust me. The polychords holdsworth uses has made complete imitation of his style almost impossible, I do respect him hes doing his own thing, you want to hear someone who wipes his ass with this guy I have two names for you.......SHAWN LANE!!!
vetmusician 2 years ago
That's one name... who is the other?
lauriemonk 2 years ago
the only other guitarist who in my humble opinion that comes close is guthrie govan, not only for his sheer technical mastery but outstanding grasp of DYNAMICS, but if you listen to him you can hear bits of vai, lane and country and jazz influences but so cleverly rolled up that you cannot distinguish one in particular.........stravinsky said it best, "great composers dont imitate, they steal" Dont rip off holdsworth and think nobodys gonna Know......LOL
vetmusician 2 years ago
As musicians do not grow up in a vacuum isn't their playing style a sum product of those influences? Govan is a raft of all the things he's learned, recorded played live and transcribed... no doubt he himself will have borrowed ideas from other players and incorporated them into his playing. No doubt if you posted a video I could pin point the influences in your playing style... but I would not call you a rip off.
lauriemonk 2 years ago
I agree fully, and I really have followed mr Gabel. all the way back when george lynch picked him due to a contest he was having, I dislike gabel not because he cant be more he just seems content with imitation........I have studied his touch and musical phrases, sometimes I cant tell the difference between holdsworth and him, Shawn lane was HEAVILY influenced by holdsworth why doesnt he sound like him? he took the journey to find out WHO he is, if gabel did that he would be dangerous.
vetmusician 2 years ago
Let me just add mrs Lauriemonk, for those that play music WE OWE it to each other to be honest with the music we decide to make, I play guitar and I damn well know I can learn a holdsworth solo note for note IF I chose to,I have the technical and cerebral capacity to do so, But I will not, I will not tap like eddie van halen just to be noticed I will continue the pusuit of EXPRESSING MYSELF however long it takes to make MY statement, Im not trying to rip someone off then sell you a DVD.
vetmusician 2 years ago
Actually it's Mr... I can hear what you are saying, but Derryl has been working on his style for years. Like many he's been greatly influenced by the legato movement created by Allan Holdsworth, but he does not "rip him off". Derryl continues to develop his style and I really like it... as I do Holdsworth... but I listen to so much guitar music that I hear significant difference in playing style and musical composition between both.
lauriemonk 2 years ago
Compositionally I agree, Do me a favor..................and I am serios about this, by the way I am sorry I believed you to be a female my mistake. Go to the videos of gabel, holdsworth and shawn lane any ones will do and watch their FACES I know this seems odd but look closely...........what do you see? something that is MEMORIZED has a different emotional effect than something that is FELT by the soul...............tell me what YOU see? please keep in mind this is an observation NOT a judgment
vetmusician 2 years ago
I've seen Shawn Lane and Allan Holdsworth live and I get totally different things from them than I do from Derryl. I also don't think the faces have anything to do with it. I've seen lots of players who contort their faces and others who do not, I never think the guy with the contorted face must be better player than the on who does not contort his face. I've seen Derryl on videos jamming for days... it certainly subconscious playing... you are reading too much into this!
lauriemonk 2 years ago
@lauriemonk come on...really? Derryl is lots of classes below Lane and Lane was below Holdsworth.Do we even have to talk about this?Holdsworth practicly invented fusion guitar playing i thought we all agreed on this.
AtanasovPeter 1 year ago
@AtanasovPeter music is in the ear of the beholder. Holdsworth, Lane and Gabel all have different things to offer... it isn't a competition.
lauriemonk 1 year ago
@lauriemonk you really believe that? what you like and musical ability is separate things.There are people who say Kirk Hammet from Metallica is better than Allan Holdsworth does your method work still?
AtanasovPeter 1 year ago
@AtanasovPeter it might work for them but it does not work for me... it's a point of view. Don't forget also that this is a demo track for the techniques that are on the DVD. Seriously, I would not get worked up about it. Just enjoy the music for what it is.
lauriemonk 1 year ago
@AtanasovPeter lauriemonk is absolutely right.with the line ,,derryl is lots of classes below lane,, u disqualified urself and proved everyone to have absolutely no clue at all what music is about.if u post stuff like that ALWAYS put a In myopinion in front of such words so at least u limit the rubbish comin out to urself.
Faststick 1 year ago
@Faststick Fuck you...to you and all like you.If for a second you believe that all you like are equal you are morons.The 1st on my top list are people who really innovated something.You fucking think that every good musician you like could be named among Innovators like Allan Holdsworth you are a fucking moron.I am not your teacher go pay for education and leave me alone!
AtanasovPeter 1 year ago
@Faststick If you hear innovating and groundbreaking playing in every 3rd schmuck
then the half world is super players.Gratz your logic is perfect.Come on asshole make an argument.
AtanasovPeter 1 year ago
@AtanasovPeter What is your problem man? Why are you bitching and whining on a video arguing about music? Music is meant to be enjoyed, so just shut up and enjoy it! It doesn't matter who the best player is because it's different for everyone, it doesn't matter who people think is innovative, just enjoy the music!
Botdra 1 year ago
@Botdra I don't think who is innovative because you don't need to think it.Its out there in history because you don't see anyone playing like Holdsworth in the early 1970's do you?Today lots of people try to copy him just like this guy.But they all fail because the unique tone that Holdsworth makes is not from processors and effects like all try to copy.All is in his fingers and you can't copy that.Enjoy your copy cats i will listen to the real thing.Good Luck!
AtanasovPeter 1 year ago
@AtanasovPeter You're completely missing my point. I'm saying it doesn't matter, just enjoy it. Just because his style is similar to Holdsworth, doesn't mean he's trying to copy him. Lessons like this show you ideas, opportunities to explore music more. If you think it's just for everyone to copy Allan Holdsworth you don't understand. And who are you to say that we shouldn't listen to him, only Holdsworth? He's a great player, and he enjoys music, unlike you, who only enjoys certain players.
Botdra 1 year ago
@Botdra Man...i said in the last comment listen whatever the fuck you want and don't tell me what i enjoy and what i don't.
AtanasovPeter 1 year ago
@AtanasovPeter I'm not trying to, I understand everyone has their own musical tastes and that's totally fine. I'm just saying you don't have to tell other people that we shouldn't listen to this guy because he's supposedly just trying to copy Holdsworth.
Botdra 1 year ago
@Botdra supposedly?no point of talking anymore.
AtanasovPeter 1 year ago
@AtanasovPeter Fine by me. :D
Botdra 1 year ago
@AtanasovPeter You can have a point of view, but please refrain from the bad language or I will have to block you
lauriemonk 1 year ago
@lauriemonk There is no such thing as bad language.I will talk like i feel if you don't like it /block
AtanasovPeter 1 year ago
@AtanasovPeter Get a freakin' life. I like Holdsworth as much as anyone. He himself closed down his forums for just such bullshit as you are perpetrating.
Hypnus9 1 year ago
@Hypnus9 I stopped commenting this long time go....you want to start it again?Fuck off and leave me alone.You have your opinions witch i think are idiotic but fine think what you want and leave me the fuck alone.Go Pray to your imaginary Gods or whatever you do like talking to imaginary friends.
AtanasovPeter 1 year ago
@AtanasovPeter Well, if you want to believe that the LORD my God is imaginary, that is to you, but I guarantee you that you will most definitely discover otherwise. Repent.
Hypnus9 1 year ago
@Hypnus9 and if standart outside playing and such things that every jazz/fusion musician does is something witch you have no idea of and Derryl helps you understand a little it's your problem and it doesn't mean all the rest of us haven't learned from far more greater explained sources long time ago.I mean wtf every second guitar player witch learned some things thinks he is a teacher?It's one thing to learn few scales and play and other to educate people how to understand chord changes and such
AtanasovPeter 1 year ago
@AtanasovPeter Where is your playing, since you have such a debase opinion of everyone, friend? I notice you have only one video uploaded, and it isn't even your own playing, but that of Allan Holdsworth. I can appreciate, to a small degree that you don't like rock music, but to go slamming every other musician is BS. If you were a superior musician, say on a par with holdsworth, you would encourage younger players, and not demean them.
Hypnus9 1 year ago
@Hypnus9 I don't like to put any of my playing anymore because first of all i don't owe it to anybody and when i play i do it for myself and i do not need listeners,I debase many people because the general level of musicianship is going down every few years.I am a young player myself but i have gone from Coltrane,Miles,Parker to Holdsworth,Lane,Gambale and many other musics.And when you see the general level of musicianship those people that innovated so many things starting in the 60's
AtanasovPeter 1 year ago
@AtanasovPeter Now Peter, let's try to be friends here. How long have you been playing? I, for one, have been playing music for 34+ years, and I believe that music is getting better. Now, let me clarify something here: I don't listen to popular music at all...I haven't since I was eighteen years old. I was a Van Halen fanatic in my teens, but when I was eighteen, I began listening to Chick Corea, Pat Metheny and many other innovators, such as the ones you referred to in your post. God bless you.
Hypnus9 1 year ago
@Hypnus9 I've been involved in music 10 years.It's getting better for the old guys who started 30-40 years ago."To the stars" is just the perfect CCEB album i can listen to it 24/7.And Van Halen actually has a good tone in his fingers unlike Steve vai,joe satriani and the rest clowns that get super attention.Steve vai has poor technique,poor writing skills,Poor improvisation skills,Bad machine-like tone and in the end of the day to the world he is the best.I do not wish to talk anymore.I shut up
AtanasovPeter 1 year ago
@AtanasovPeter Steve Vai, bad technique??? You're one of those jerks who hate certain musicians on principal...because they are rich, famous, popular, etc.....or because you hear some other idiot ranting about nonsense and you mindlessly agree.
deepislandboy 1 year ago
@deepislandboy yes bad technique and computer tone.a musician with his status should be able to do more things.regular musicians can play all over crazy modulating chord progressions so if you are super star like he is now i believe he should make little more interesting harmony but if he did he would not being able to play over it.that's why he sticks to the little harmony satriani showed him.go listen to some Holdsworth and then talk asshole listen to some soloing improvisation and harmony
AtanasovPeter 1 year ago
@AtanasovPeter Let me also say that music is like food. We can choose whatever we like, and refrain from that which we do not. But, if someone sets a dish in front of you, it is only good ettiquette to eat what is before you without complaing, for the workman is worth his wage. Again, God bless you.
Hypnus9 1 year ago
@Hypnus9 and the 70's.When you look people who came out the 80's are getting to be little innovating and little copy cats and after the 90's it is totally copy cats and nothing new.So if you are only a fan that can play an instrument and you like to copy the music that you like no problem there but when we start to talk musicians that are worshiped are total imbeciles and copy cats.The public is getting more and more stupid that's why the cheesy stupid music is popular.
AtanasovPeter 1 year ago
@AtanasovPeter Peter, I think you need to be a little more direct with your comments. Let people know who you revere and it will become more transparent to the observer. I for one know that Derryl does not sit at home all day saying to himself I want to be a copycat and rip some guy off to make a living. Derryl is his own man, he's been doing this for ages. He didn't get picked by George Lynch to play on his CD for nothing. This playing is no detraction to your playing either.
lauriemonk 1 year ago
@lauriemonk It really doesn't matter what i say i will keep my opinion to myself because in the end i am gonna keep my point of view and you will keep yours.Case closed.
AtanasovPeter 1 year ago
Derryl is a fine player but to mention him in the same breath as Allan Holdsworth is ridiculous. I think if Derryl made his tone a bit less processed he would make more of an impression. Why do these new fusion guys have to process their sound so much? You can't hear the fingers anymore. Indeed Allan's tone is very processed but it doesn't sound like it. He almost sounds like an Oboe at times. I love Allans tone with UK and Bruford. Also,Holdsworth lovers would appreciate Ollie Halsall of Patto.
jmrcanada 2 years ago
Haha, you aren't kidding... The ultimate goal in fusion guitar tone seems to be emulating the cheapest electric keyboard you can find
blondiebabae 2 years ago
My theory is completely focused on tone from the fingers and the wood of the neck with distortion form the amp to maintain purity of ton. over processing for me defeats what I am looking for, your right about Holdsworth, quite processed but you can still hear that there is a lot of tone from his fingers and the wood when he is using a distorted sound.
I got my theory from Shawn Lane another tone phenomenon.
trevskiw2008 2 years ago
the other one is Vet Musician LOL if you go to his web site you'll see his interest is only Shawn lane . in his friends list it says "My Shawn " i thought that was cute LOL
McMinnManiac 2 years ago
The instructional video for holdsworth was kind of cool . Holdsworth is an Ear player and has fret boards drawn out of the patterns he uses . Most people recognise them as Mel Min Harm Min etc but he doesn't he has code names for them . it goes to show knowing the sound of a mode and using it ,has little to do with the Technical name of the mode About Shawn Lane you have good taste Vet Musician
McMinnManiac 2 years ago
iwant to say something about what jazz is . Jazz is a cross between Classical Ragtime, American blues , country and folk music . It's a melting pot . Girshwin played Ragtime and classical , and was said to have come up with the archtype of the first "Standard" with ii v cycling 'i got rhythm i hate when people consider Jazz simply a black Art form . it's like they took a stupid college course and think they know it all Country and Irish Folk music had alot to do with it too
McMinnManiac 2 years ago
Your probably the one that needs a college course my friend. Jazz originated in this country at the beggining of the 20th century in African American communities in the southern united states from a mixture of African and European music traditions, IM ITALIAN and trust me ..we had nothing to do with it until we got to ellis Island by that time that shit was well on its way, people have even tried connecting it DIRECTLY to africa but its simple....No U.S.A.....No Jazz
vetmusician 2 years ago
what is secret of low action with no buzzing??
i have ibanez s320 great cheap guitar but buzz like hell...
jtpmm777 2 years ago
Daryl Gabel and Marshall Harrison are twins, LOL
waylay00 2 years ago 3
Derryl, what kind of set up do you have on the guitar, sounds like really LOW action with 8s or 9s...
stratakat 2 years ago
VERY nice! Sweet Carvin too!
jamesmills3000 2 years ago
Good, but fusion guitar for me is just an attempt of the guitar taking over the sax and reviving 'bop. It's technically impressive, but the melodies never stick in your head, and the improvs are always recycled licks that have already been thought of, a little empty
danohrly 2 years ago
See, this guy is incredibly technically knowledgeable, but I just don't like what he is playing.
for the most part the phrases are nonsense, the melody is lost in a sea of chromatics.
To me it was just soulless.
joebot1 2 years ago
That's like saying . holdsworth and Sean lane really were nothing either . Sean Lane as much as he over played could write a ballad with alot of melody and ability to evoke emotion . Looking at an instructional and judging a player is like going to a music store , and judging based on what someone is noodling . It's really about Music Sythasis Darryls Dreams Album is very easy to listen to in compairison to most fusion
McMinnManiac 2 years ago 5
I disagree with sean lane, he was very melodic with it!. Alan holdsworth is another one, he does nothing for me at all.
I am only giving my oppinion, your all free to dismiss it as you see fit!. Music is subjective. I am not say8ing I am right and you are wrong, just that it does nothing at all for me!.
joebot1 2 years ago
no problem... BTW it is Shawn Lane
lauriemonk 2 years ago
It is a shame you Shawn And Allan don't musically do it for you i find it amazing and opened an new world for me.
Your among the few people who express there opinions in the right way stating what you feel but not slating the artist, i see bad comments about Shawn and Allan all over the place it really gets to me.
Thanks for your opinion, it is quite interesting to see someone who thinks this completely differently to me, thanks.
trevskiw2008 2 years ago
@joebot1 consider yourself dismissed.
redwoodolphin 1 year ago
@joebot1 shawn lane was a master and allan holdsworth is too derryl is a great technician and makes me wanna get better and his teacher marshall harrison makes me want to quit lol
brandon5pennies 1 year ago
awesome
persini 2 years ago 2
What kind of woods are used in this beautiful h2 ?
Slayerman256 2 years ago
Derryl Gabel says: Flame Maple Top
Ebony finger board
Black Wilkinson trem
I had to adjust the action when I got it but I was able to drop it super low with no buzz. Couldn't be more pleased with this guitar. It practically plays itself and sounds great! Thanks Carvin!
lauriemonk 2 years ago
BadAss!!! Great Playing!!!
Jsnmcd 2 years ago
VERY COOL PLAYING DERRYL
sebarequiem 3 years ago
nice !!!
yellowshadow92150 3 years ago
Great soloing, keep on shredding!
lauriemonk 3 years ago