@SMOKEWEEDNlGGA lol. You should go find an mma gym and sign up with that attitude. I suggest you explicitly explain that to everyone when you start training.
well i can tell who knows the rules and who dos not know what a belly down arm bar is. the ref did not dismiss mr ferguson because the belly down arm bar is the most destructive arm bar in bjj and judo. 90% of the time the arm comes close to breaking. and mr. ferguson has broken arms in every american judo federation.
It absolutely bottles my mind that any of you keyboard warriors think you have any ground to stand on, trying to attack Rhadi Ferguson's character. I mean, because clearly you're all in a position to judge him right?
First off there is not a point in which you "can't get out" - until the submission is all the way on there is always opportunity to escape - always.
Secondly many guys in competition refuse to tap, you need to put the submission on like you mean it, that's the difference between a recreational black belt and a decorated black belt.
Thirdly he didn't check on him right away afterward because that's what the ref is there for.
Why didn't he give him a chance to tap, because that's a ..
Okay competetion is fine and a competitor attitude is okay. I compete and you know it's one then to get the submission on the person, it's a whole other thing when you know your stuff, your skill, the fact that you trained hard and long to get to the point of competeing, which obviously this man has, he knew exactly the technique he was going to do. He set it up beautifully. He knew. So yeah it was a very cruel and unrespectful thing he did. Least he could do is turn around and check on him.
This issue I find happening in many grappling compeitions is that an opponent will choose not to tap due to submission and rather try to fight the submission. Many breaks happen because of this stubborn mentality. I have competed with individuals who choose not to tuck there chin and accept the throw. They try to "kip" out of the throw and end up busting the forehead open on the mat. Its only a game. Leave your ego at home and keep your body entact.
@wolfhammer2010 This is not what happened here: The other guy never had a chance to tap, as Rhadi pulled real hard immediately. Great technique, but it was careless and violates the spirit of Judo. Playing to win is one thing, going full strengh on an armbar sucks. big time.
@sylverdrag I don't do the belly down arm bar, 'cause its very difficult to do it "nicely". The way he had it, had he not gone right for it, he could have easily lost it. At a high bb level, in competition, you enter knowing that this outcome is possible. That said, from the video there did seem to be quite a bit of ego on both their parts, that lead to the break. I feel that he was in the right to crank as he did, but the video doesn't make clear what level of sportsmanship he displayed after.
@mjm05010 If something crack, you can feel it. Not letting go immediately is not acceptable behavior, and I don't care what the competition is. An accident, perhaps - I still don't think he should have gone this hard. Holding after the elbow popped however...
@sylverdrag this may be 3 months ago but i couldn't help but say i agree completely. Unfortunately not many other people will, cuz everyone is so bent on winning that this is acceptable. This is not what Judo was intended to be like.
You can't really blame Rhadi for keeping it on until the Ref called it. Getting a Olympic Judo medal is way harder than getting a World BJJ title you need to win at all cost.
TO ALL THOSE SAYING that in the heat of competition, you do whatever it takes to get the medal.. really? I know this is a pervasive attitude in "sport/competition judo" but it doesn't mean that it's right. This is the very reason that a lot of traditional judoka are lamenting at the direction that judo is going these days. Shiai was intended to be a test of ones self, not do what it takes to bring home the gold. Case in point: Mohamed Ali Rashwan vs Yasuhiro Yamashita in the Olympic Finals...
@corismsyn Yamashita had injured his leg from a prior match and Rashwan took care not to attack the affected leg. Such an honorable thing to do in which he received an award from the International Fairplay Committee. And this was the final match in the olympics. I doubt that this particular competition in which Ferguson broke this guy's arm was even close to how big the olympics is. And for what? Money? Can't be too much of it. Medal? So, it's all for ego?That which we strive to conquer in Judo?
@corismsyn And is that medal/prestige/prize money worth the hurt and possibility that that broken arm will no longer function 100% like it used to? Whatever happened to Jita Kyoei?
@corismsyn ... You only have part of the story! Rashwan claimed that he did not attack Yamashita's leg out of a sense of fair play, and received an award for sportsmanship... However a later review of that match showed that Rashwan's first couple of attacks were deliberate and directed at Yamashita's broken leg.
Rashwan was definitely not the poster boy for sportsmanship, and fair play that he claimed to be.
@corismsyn Rashwan claimed that he did not attack Yamashita's leg out of a sense of fair play, and received an award for sportsmanship... A later review of that match showed that Rashwan immediately attacked both of Yamashita's legs (right tai otoshi, and a left O soto Gari). Yamashita countered the second attach and finished Rashwan with a pin. Rashwan was not the poster boy for sportsmanship, and fair play that he claimed to be.
@AsahiDojoshu Thanks for the added info, I did not know that as it was not mentioned in my Masterclass book for Osoto Gari where they mentioned that anecdote. Be that as it may, my point is not in glorifying Rashwan but pointing out the ideology of a lot of people here that it is ok to break an arm because it is competition. Surely a far cry from what Jigoro Kano inteded Judo to be, don't you agree?
I wonder if his cousin Kimbo ever tried learning anything from him? I doubt it,all Kimbo could do was box & brawl & his cousin is such a true decorated man with skill.I bet he can teach Kimbo English & judo & mat grappling if Kimbo wants to teach him about 305/Ebonics & gold teeth.
dickheads actin like they KNOW the other guy would have applied less pressure in the same situation, fuck that. thats just more room for error androom for another top class grappler(which im assuming the other guy is not one of you local chumps) to get out of the submission within that half a second it took to snap the arm.
An armbar is designed to snap the arm at the joint so he exacuted the move perfectly. If he were to hold back on the move his opponent could have got out of it and he may lose the match so you can't really blame him for doing his job.
Wow, what a punk bitch move. He got frustrated and decided to hurt the guy. You can tell by the way he got up that he knew he broke something. He could have gotten the tap, but decided to hurt the guy instead. I just lost all respect for this man.
Some of the moves in Judo are lethal, you just don't do that stuff outside of a life-or-death situation. Classless move.
@Kilroytheknifesnob Look at the highest rated comments. Judomachine is none other than Rhadi Fergunson himself. See what he said out of his own mouth,well keyboard. That wasnt intentional. It was just an accidental break.
What ever bullshit the Rhadi cool aid sippen cunts on this page say, that was not cool. I do BJJ, and even in comp there is no need to jump into a sub that clean, and then apply 100% power. I understand that bad stuff can happen, but that was forced, and it was a dick move. And what gets me, is he is a BJJ Black Belt, so once he had that guy in an armbar, he could have hung out for 2 sec and applied pressure slowly, now if he then refuses to tap, then brake his shit, and that would be ok w/ me
Perhaps he can be forgiven for breaking the arm. It didn't look necessary, but things happen. I'm not so willing to say it's ok to strut off after doing it though.
For all you morons that are down on Rhadi for this. Part of the game is knowing when to tap. This guy apparently forgot when that was ... period. For those of you who say "Oh he had control of the arm and didn't need to break it." Who are you, the amazing Kreskin? I can't see shit. What I can see is that he was caught and didn't tap and that's been bullshit in Judo forever.
@americanbadass911 If by "able" you mean "allowed", then the answer is "of course". Where do you think those submissions come from in the first place?
@luchador1764 lol at people who never competed, you torque until they tap. Please compete first before you come on here at claim people are "dickfaces" lol
@ruthlesspno1 Um.. please dont assume that I havent competed. I wrestled for 4 years and have been consistently training and consistently competing in jiu jitsu for the last year. Im not a fucking chump, i know what im talking about. I also know enough to know that there is no reason for somebodies arm to get broken that quickly in an armbar in a comp. I mean sure, if you have it on for a while and he doesnt tap, bring that bitch home. But dont intend to break it, be respectful to your opponent.
Did he really break his arm? Injuries happen in combative sports. I have a number of injuries in which I have sustained in training from people with the best intentions. It's just a part of learning I guess?
its a competition dumbass as soon as he steps on the mat his there to win not half ass it and be sweet to his opponent..it was perfectly legal and he let go rite after the guy tapped
@sumyungmen haha, more yotube racist trash talk by pussies hiding behind their keyboards, something tells me you wouldn't say that to his face...just a hunch
i know that....but im an asking for he not for his style in martial arts.....and one more thing what racism? and i dont need to say nothing in his face because that is my opinion like a surprise but i don want to insult....gorilla because he is big and strong and his skin is dark like gorillas...
@jigoyawara You mean you are asking about him or his judo credentials? Well he a former national Judo champion, and competed in the Olympics in judo. He also is a black belt in brazillian jiu-jitsu.
I wasn't talkin to you with that racist comment, that was to "sumyugmen." sorry if it went to you, it was an accident
i just watched a friend of mine break another competitors arm with a juji gatami yesterday... the other black belt stood up and shook my friends hand with his good arm saying good fight. we are fighters, if you wanted to be safe from injury and compete... go play ping pong.
It's a pretty nasty angle for an armbar, when you start to go belly down like that it gets tight quick. I doubt before he jumped he thought "I'm gonna take this home with me." it's a case of the old large flying man+instantly tight armbar=bad news for the other guy. If you are being stacked in an armbar and you do the role under to finish (see Dustin hazelett vs goulet) it creates one similar to rhadi's armbar.... I know that hazelett did not want to pop gouletts arm like he did
fairly a noob in judo and i know i'm not entitled to speak for anybody. my sensei always reminds us, even before he teaches us any kansetsu waza or any waza, to have control.
sensei fukushima and takashima:
"the aim of any judo waza is to control your opponent by applying the right amount of pressure/strength and never in anyway hurt them."
Sport Judo is a rough and very physical sport. If you don't like it (many don't), don't compete.
As you progress in Judo, you'll find there is a world of difference between sport-oriented Judoka, and the more traditional "japanese" style Judo.
Sport Judo = Bentover postures, over the back gripping, grip breaking, and yes, forceful newaza. When you're going for gold, you'll crank the armbar, its the ref's job to stop the bout. Not for everyone.
judo is fast and brutal and when your doing ground work in a judo competition you get that arm bar and try to to take the arm home I dont know why people are talking crap about this legit move the guy was just unlucky .
umm this is where ppl are who said he is in the right get schooled. As a ref i would have to say a hansoku make is in order. If you lack control and break a arm the technique was not done correctly. It is called a Joint lock for a reason not a arm break. So ppl know what that means joint noun :the place at which two things, or separate parts of one thing, are joined or united, either rigidly or in such a way as to permit motion; juncture.
@DavinTillman I think I have to kind of disagree. IN the clip, it was Rhadi's job to affect the submission, at that moment it was the other guys job to look after himself and know his limits. Sometimes you can fight out of subs and sometimes you just cannot.. Sometimes competitors will play on the fact that someone is taking a nice armbar, and use that niceness to escape.
Why is everyone saying Rhadi pulled some "asshole" move? in case you forgot...this was a fight. a sancationed fight with rules and regs and this move fell within the rules of the comp. these are grown men that know exactly what they are getting into. Ive compepted in Judo form an early age and have practiced and competed in BJJ for 6 years. This is comon. its not a macho thing. this is part of the sport.....great move Rhadi! Im going to try to add this move to my style.
This comment is one of the truest things I have seen on youtube. That move is completely legal. I do wish Rhadi would have given the guy another second or 2 to tap, but that is the life of a Judoka in competition. I will add this technique to my skill set as well.
@kwagner523 The reason why everyone says it was an asshole move is because in Judo the rules say you have to give your opponent a chance to tap before you break it. Rhadi didn't give his opponent a chance to tap.
I disagree with markkerr101. I play judo and that armbar lacked control. A good joint guy will work the armbar in. once you have that arm straightened out, it belongs to you. If I was the ref I would have disqualified ferguson. thats not good judo right there.
nobody here knows anything about fighting or bjj or judo.
my last fight i broke the guys arm in half. he didnt tap in time. hey its either u or me its a brutal sport if you dont want to take a risk accidents happen. if you do a move half assed there is a chance the guy will escape and wont tap. if you dont like it and cant handle that fact dont compete pussies go play chess or checkers
agreed markkerr101. arm joints arent stronger than a whole bodys resistance so it cannot be helped. and people on youtube talk so much s**t because they dont truly know how the sport goes firsthand.
I'd have to agree, an experienced Judoka knows the "breaking point", this is an example of no control and no respect for your opponent, been there done that, Iv'e had my arm hyperextended.
I had a similar thing almost happen. I had my armed pinned against my body on an armbar like that. I yelled out "TAP" several times because I couldn't physically tap. The SOB kept pulling and was like "oh I didn't know you were tapping"...what part of the word TAP do you not understand. Some guys get too hot shot and forget it's not the goal to injure but to submit the opponent. A-holes. Ferguson too! look at his body language after the ref stops it.
Sick arm lock by ferguson, But absolutely no regard to his opponents well being. In competition it's just like training judo or bjj you apply the technique and secure it but you dont finish immediately. If the opponent doesnt want to tap different story but this was irresponsible for someone of rhadi's caliber.
Ideally, yes, but you have to keep in mind that in elite competition, sometimes you can't be ideal and a "win at all costs" attitude is actually very in line with elite competition sport.
What an asshole, I just lost all respect for Ferguson. What a bastard, really. Dude should never be allowed inside a dojo again with the way he broke that arm. I mean, his oponent already clapped on the mat before it broke. That means he kept pulling anyway. makes me mad just seeing this.
Rhadi Ferguson = unparalleled stupidity and respectless
How so? Because it is a striking art? Most TKD kicks are impractical to say the least and it's hand work is nothing to boast about. If you want to argue in favor of MT or even kyokushin karate, then go ahead, but give some evidence or a line of reasoning. There has yet to be a successful fighter who's primary base is TKD in any mixed martial arts competition (mma is the only platform to make this comparison besides hypothetical streetfights) but judo has had multiple top 10 fighters.
I used to do BJJ and everytime some white belt would learn that, he would try to see if it would indeed snap an arm. One pulled it REAL fast and snap, my arm broke. Its been a year, but I cant extend my arm right.
C'mon guys, this is an international judo comp, not some local tournament. That's just how it goes. U never go out there w/ intent to injure, but you have to STAY mentally sharp throughout the whole day. Someone elses situation CANNOT cause a lapse n focus. I just came back from 5 mos of rehabbing a complete LCL tear and I tore my quad muscle off the bone 10 days b4 the tournament. I wasn't happy to begin with. Steve Edmonds and Italked afterwards while getting massages by the pool the next day.
@judomachine yep like my istructor says when your pissing about at the club you just put pressure on to hurt them but the second you walk into a tournment you aim to break there arm no second though about it if you get the chance do it
@judomachine Once the animal adrenaline kicked in, it looked like he DID have the intent to injure. Given the amount of control he had, he could have easily made him tap in a respectful manner. Remember, this is a sport, not a street fight or the fucking jungle. I think you can tell where his mind is at when he gets up and you can visibly see he's like "Yeah, bitch, I just broke your arm." Not cool or ok. Just feral.
@judomachine radhi I think you could get the submission being more careful. You always must look for your opponent integrity, even if its a high level competition. Take care
did he need to bang that on quite so hard, and in judo a certain amount of respect should be shown to your opponent, he shows no concern for the damage he may have inflicted.
How so? He just got up how is that showing no respect? Did you see the end of the match, did Ferguson talk smack? nah he just got up and moved to a neutral side of the mat
That was bull shite he fuck up his arm. Race had something to do with it
Jarrettironfist 4 months ago
that was fuckin slick. i didnt even see that comin... damn. n it was tight as fuck. fuckin perfect right there.
chris80cent 5 months ago
silly black man
ariwalden 6 months ago
@SMOKEWEEDNlGGA lol. You should go find an mma gym and sign up with that attitude. I suggest you explicitly explain that to everyone when you start training.
ManicParroT 7 months ago
@SMOKEWEEDNlGGA huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
hadtomakeonetowatch 7 months ago
The guy did tap he didnt need to torque it like that cmon man
AdamR702 7 months ago
well i can tell who knows the rules and who dos not know what a belly down arm bar is. the ref did not dismiss mr ferguson because the belly down arm bar is the most destructive arm bar in bjj and judo. 90% of the time the arm comes close to breaking. and mr. ferguson has broken arms in every american judo federation.
natejudoandbjj 9 months ago
It absolutely bottles my mind that any of you keyboard warriors think you have any ground to stand on, trying to attack Rhadi Ferguson's character. I mean, because clearly you're all in a position to judge him right?
olxdirtyxd 9 months ago
wow !! a nigger without a gun can fight.. *applauds slowly
BlueBlazer89 9 months ago
...chance to escape.
uckushtar 10 months ago
First off there is not a point in which you "can't get out" - until the submission is all the way on there is always opportunity to escape - always.
Secondly many guys in competition refuse to tap, you need to put the submission on like you mean it, that's the difference between a recreational black belt and a decorated black belt.
Thirdly he didn't check on him right away afterward because that's what the ref is there for.
Why didn't he give him a chance to tap, because that's a ..
uckushtar 10 months ago
Okay competetion is fine and a competitor attitude is okay. I compete and you know it's one then to get the submission on the person, it's a whole other thing when you know your stuff, your skill, the fact that you trained hard and long to get to the point of competeing, which obviously this man has, he knew exactly the technique he was going to do. He set it up beautifully. He knew. So yeah it was a very cruel and unrespectful thing he did. Least he could do is turn around and check on him.
83ishgirl 11 months ago
There is a point when the other guy can't get out. No need to torque it like that. The way he walked away like he was a badass. Not cool.
johnnyu3 1 year ago
This issue I find happening in many grappling compeitions is that an opponent will choose not to tap due to submission and rather try to fight the submission. Many breaks happen because of this stubborn mentality. I have competed with individuals who choose not to tuck there chin and accept the throw. They try to "kip" out of the throw and end up busting the forehead open on the mat. Its only a game. Leave your ego at home and keep your body entact.
wolfhammer2010 1 year ago 7
@wolfhammer2010 he didnt give this guy a chance to tap though
RGTomoenage11 9 months ago
@wolfhammer2010 This is not what happened here: The other guy never had a chance to tap, as Rhadi pulled real hard immediately. Great technique, but it was careless and violates the spirit of Judo. Playing to win is one thing, going full strengh on an armbar sucks. big time.
sylverdrag 7 months ago
@sylverdrag I don't do the belly down arm bar, 'cause its very difficult to do it "nicely". The way he had it, had he not gone right for it, he could have easily lost it. At a high bb level, in competition, you enter knowing that this outcome is possible. That said, from the video there did seem to be quite a bit of ego on both their parts, that lead to the break. I feel that he was in the right to crank as he did, but the video doesn't make clear what level of sportsmanship he displayed after.
mjm05010 7 months ago
@mjm05010 If something crack, you can feel it. Not letting go immediately is not acceptable behavior, and I don't care what the competition is. An accident, perhaps - I still don't think he should have gone this hard. Holding after the elbow popped however...
sylverdrag 6 months ago
@sylverdrag this may be 3 months ago but i couldn't help but say i agree completely. Unfortunately not many other people will, cuz everyone is so bent on winning that this is acceptable. This is not what Judo was intended to be like.
whatsflawless 3 months ago
@wolfhammer2010 hey retard, he was in that hold for about half a second. can you think that fast to tap?
JRR12100 3 months ago
@JRR12100 I am sorry Keyboard Samurai I disagree with your comment. Have a nice day.
wolfhammer2010 3 months ago
The not being in control of the arm is not a good point. You can shout tap at anymoment and you can tap with your legs.
LifeofJp 1 year ago
You can't really blame Rhadi for keeping it on until the Ref called it. Getting a Olympic Judo medal is way harder than getting a World BJJ title you need to win at all cost.
702decatur 1 year ago
TO ALL THOSE SAYING that in the heat of competition, you do whatever it takes to get the medal.. really? I know this is a pervasive attitude in "sport/competition judo" but it doesn't mean that it's right. This is the very reason that a lot of traditional judoka are lamenting at the direction that judo is going these days. Shiai was intended to be a test of ones self, not do what it takes to bring home the gold. Case in point: Mohamed Ali Rashwan vs Yasuhiro Yamashita in the Olympic Finals...
corismsyn 1 year ago
@corismsyn Yamashita had injured his leg from a prior match and Rashwan took care not to attack the affected leg. Such an honorable thing to do in which he received an award from the International Fairplay Committee. And this was the final match in the olympics. I doubt that this particular competition in which Ferguson broke this guy's arm was even close to how big the olympics is. And for what? Money? Can't be too much of it. Medal? So, it's all for ego?That which we strive to conquer in Judo?
corismsyn 1 year ago
@corismsyn And is that medal/prestige/prize money worth the hurt and possibility that that broken arm will no longer function 100% like it used to? Whatever happened to Jita Kyoei?
corismsyn 1 year ago
@corismsyn ... You only have part of the story! Rashwan claimed that he did not attack Yamashita's leg out of a sense of fair play, and received an award for sportsmanship... However a later review of that match showed that Rashwan's first couple of attacks were deliberate and directed at Yamashita's broken leg.
Rashwan was definitely not the poster boy for sportsmanship, and fair play that he claimed to be.
AsahiDojoshu 1 year ago
@corismsyn Rashwan claimed that he did not attack Yamashita's leg out of a sense of fair play, and received an award for sportsmanship... A later review of that match showed that Rashwan immediately attacked both of Yamashita's legs (right tai otoshi, and a left O soto Gari). Yamashita countered the second attach and finished Rashwan with a pin. Rashwan was not the poster boy for sportsmanship, and fair play that he claimed to be.
AsahiDojoshu 1 year ago
@AsahiDojoshu Thanks for the added info, I did not know that as it was not mentioned in my Masterclass book for Osoto Gari where they mentioned that anecdote. Be that as it may, my point is not in glorifying Rashwan but pointing out the ideology of a lot of people here that it is ok to break an arm because it is competition. Surely a far cry from what Jigoro Kano inteded Judo to be, don't you agree?
corismsyn 1 year ago
@corismsyn A lot of people on the outside looking in just don't get it...
AsahiDojoshu 1 year ago
dude tapped like 50 times.
EYEZIC 1 year ago
I wonder if his cousin Kimbo ever tried learning anything from him? I doubt it,all Kimbo could do was box & brawl & his cousin is such a true decorated man with skill.I bet he can teach Kimbo English & judo & mat grappling if Kimbo wants to teach him about 305/Ebonics & gold teeth.
gbundle203 1 year ago
dickheads actin like they KNOW the other guy would have applied less pressure in the same situation, fuck that. thats just more room for error androom for another top class grappler(which im assuming the other guy is not one of you local chumps) to get out of the submission within that half a second it took to snap the arm.
tha07flopro 1 year ago
An armbar is designed to snap the arm at the joint so he exacuted the move perfectly. If he were to hold back on the move his opponent could have got out of it and he may lose the match so you can't really blame him for doing his job.
Saif434 1 year ago 3
Monster power@02"19
rmsolympic1 1 year ago
That guy didn't even give him a chance to tap. That's unacceptable imo.
Basicpiviot 1 year ago
That was pretty nice but he put all his weight into it even though he knew that he had him by the nut sack.
blackhero321 1 year ago
Wow, what a punk bitch move. He got frustrated and decided to hurt the guy. You can tell by the way he got up that he knew he broke something. He could have gotten the tap, but decided to hurt the guy instead. I just lost all respect for this man.
Some of the moves in Judo are lethal, you just don't do that stuff outside of a life-or-death situation. Classless move.
Kilroytheknifesnob 1 year ago
@Kilroytheknifesnob Bro this is international competition not tidley winks!
913NUPE 1 year ago
@Kilroytheknifesnob Look at the highest rated comments. Judomachine is none other than Rhadi Fergunson himself. See what he said out of his own mouth,well keyboard. That wasnt intentional. It was just an accidental break.
str8OuttaNaptown30 1 year ago
What ever bullshit the Rhadi cool aid sippen cunts on this page say, that was not cool. I do BJJ, and even in comp there is no need to jump into a sub that clean, and then apply 100% power. I understand that bad stuff can happen, but that was forced, and it was a dick move. And what gets me, is he is a BJJ Black Belt, so once he had that guy in an armbar, he could have hung out for 2 sec and applied pressure slowly, now if he then refuses to tap, then brake his shit, and that would be ok w/ me
drtyred24 1 year ago 2
Perhaps he can be forgiven for breaking the arm. It didn't look necessary, but things happen. I'm not so willing to say it's ok to strut off after doing it though.
johnthejudoka 1 year ago
For all you morons that are down on Rhadi for this. Part of the game is knowing when to tap. This guy apparently forgot when that was ... period. For those of you who say "Oh he had control of the arm and didn't need to break it." Who are you, the amazing Kreskin? I can't see shit. What I can see is that he was caught and didn't tap and that's been bullshit in Judo forever.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
@MrMZaccone Seriously? He should have tapped? In the entire half second he had before his elbow snapped?
Honestly, that was pretty vicious. He just cranked as hard as he possibly could, even arched his back.
Robopencil 1 year ago
@Robopencil You don't roll, do you?
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
good submission but completely over the top. he had total control of the arm and could have got the tap without breaking it.
geblad 1 year ago
wtf dude, did he half to break dat guys shit like dat??? i mean... cummon...
scottie13pippen 1 year ago
what a pussy move.
squirtleenblastoise 1 year ago
are you actually able to do submissions and J-J in judo matches?
americanbadass911 1 year ago
@americanbadass911 If by "able" you mean "allowed", then the answer is "of course". Where do you think those submissions come from in the first place?
sylverdrag 6 months ago
he didnt have to break it. he chose to. bottom line. hes a dickface now.
luchador1764 1 year ago
@luchador1764 lol at people who never competed, you torque until they tap. Please compete first before you come on here at claim people are "dickfaces" lol
ruthlesspno1 1 year ago
@ruthlesspno1 Um.. please dont assume that I havent competed. I wrestled for 4 years and have been consistently training and consistently competing in jiu jitsu for the last year. Im not a fucking chump, i know what im talking about. I also know enough to know that there is no reason for somebodies arm to get broken that quickly in an armbar in a comp. I mean sure, if you have it on for a while and he doesnt tap, bring that bitch home. But dont intend to break it, be respectful to your opponent.
luchador1764 1 year ago
@ruthlesspno1 unless the person just goes straight into breaking your arm hehe
reesk92 1 year ago
@luchador1764 hes a nigger dickface
milnusthegnome 1 year ago
this isn't really in the spirit of competition
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In case anybody wants to know it looks like Juji-Gatame and its in the last 20 seconds of this video.
daridp 1 year ago
Did he really break his arm? Injuries happen in combative sports. I have a number of injuries in which I have sustained in training from people with the best intentions. It's just a part of learning I guess?
Bzdi138 1 year ago
@Bzdi138
You didn't hear it break I did.
zachelman 1 year ago
its a competition dumbass as soon as he steps on the mat his there to win not half ass it and be sweet to his opponent..it was perfectly legal and he let go rite after the guy tapped
alexcab07 1 year ago
Rhadi did a perfect move for the situation and it worked. Many times people do not tap out in time.
ttmwc 1 year ago
@sumyungmen haha, more yotube racist trash talk by pussies hiding behind their keyboards, something tells me you wouldn't say that to his face...just a hunch
youngthizz81 1 year ago
that gorilla is an stupid....what kind of martial artist is this?
jigoyawara 1 year ago
@jigoyawara uh, judo
youngthizz81 1 year ago
i know that....but im an asking for he not for his style in martial arts.....and one more thing what racism? and i dont need to say nothing in his face because that is my opinion like a surprise but i don want to insult....gorilla because he is big and strong and his skin is dark like gorillas...
jigoyawara 1 year ago
@jigoyawara You mean you are asking about him or his judo credentials? Well he a former national Judo champion, and competed in the Olympics in judo. He also is a black belt in brazillian jiu-jitsu.
I wasn't talkin to you with that racist comment, that was to "sumyugmen." sorry if it went to you, it was an accident
youngthizz81 1 year ago
i just watched a friend of mine break another competitors arm with a juji gatami yesterday... the other black belt stood up and shook my friends hand with his good arm saying good fight. we are fighters, if you wanted to be safe from injury and compete... go play ping pong.
fastr1337 1 year ago
That was a dickhead move. There was no reason he had to yank it so hard.
SuperSneakySteve 1 year ago
cool video!
DigginsDojo 1 year ago
That wasn't a very nice thing to say, Sum.. Besides, Rhadi would kill you anyway..
ActaNonVerba08 2 years ago
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Back to the jungle you came from nigger.
sumyungmen 2 years ago
that guy has a Phd you ignorant swine
Breetastic 1 year ago
Rhadi would have gotten Hansouko Make with those leg picks. How dare he.
mmajunkie1000 2 years ago
It's a pretty nasty angle for an armbar, when you start to go belly down like that it gets tight quick. I doubt before he jumped he thought "I'm gonna take this home with me." it's a case of the old large flying man+instantly tight armbar=bad news for the other guy. If you are being stacked in an armbar and you do the role under to finish (see Dustin hazelett vs goulet) it creates one similar to rhadi's armbar.... I know that hazelett did not want to pop gouletts arm like he did
jcole135 2 years ago
ouch hope that will never happen to me
ThomasMin1988 2 years ago
kimbo's cousin
BarFAN21 2 years ago
Judo was derived from ju jitsu which came from self defense for Samurais on the battle field. Tap or snap.
trav2812k3 2 years ago 2
fairly a noob in judo and i know i'm not entitled to speak for anybody. my sensei always reminds us, even before he teaches us any kansetsu waza or any waza, to have control.
sensei fukushima and takashima:
"the aim of any judo waza is to control your opponent by applying the right amount of pressure/strength and never in anyway hurt them."
pogipaul 2 years ago 2
Sport Judo is a rough and very physical sport. If you don't like it (many don't), don't compete.
As you progress in Judo, you'll find there is a world of difference between sport-oriented Judoka, and the more traditional "japanese" style Judo.
Sport Judo = Bentover postures, over the back gripping, grip breaking, and yes, forceful newaza. When you're going for gold, you'll crank the armbar, its the ref's job to stop the bout. Not for everyone.
mild7p 2 years ago
oooh shit... very nice move
L0ckeTheBoss 2 years ago
judo is fast and brutal and when your doing ground work in a judo competition you get that arm bar and try to to take the arm home I dont know why people are talking crap about this legit move the guy was just unlucky .
nickynoneck 2 years ago
but if it was a dislocation then i would have to shrug get medical help and say well it sucks to be you and you need to learn to tap
DavinTillman 2 years ago 2
umm this is where ppl are who said he is in the right get schooled. As a ref i would have to say a hansoku make is in order. If you lack control and break a arm the technique was not done correctly. It is called a Joint lock for a reason not a arm break. So ppl know what that means joint noun :the place at which two things, or separate parts of one thing, are joined or united, either rigidly or in such a way as to permit motion; juncture.
DavinTillman 2 years ago
Davin, you don't know what in the world you are talking about.
judomachine 2 years ago
@DavinTillman I think I have to kind of disagree. IN the clip, it was Rhadi's job to affect the submission, at that moment it was the other guys job to look after himself and know his limits. Sometimes you can fight out of subs and sometimes you just cannot.. Sometimes competitors will play on the fact that someone is taking a nice armbar, and use that niceness to escape.
Godsmasher22 1 year ago
anybody can say what they want....it happened....and its judo...
when i fight my friends i hold it for a sec then i torqe. if i didnt know who it was i would have dont the same thing
petevodka 2 years ago
Why is everyone saying Rhadi pulled some "asshole" move? in case you forgot...this was a fight. a sancationed fight with rules and regs and this move fell within the rules of the comp. these are grown men that know exactly what they are getting into. Ive compepted in Judo form an early age and have practiced and competed in BJJ for 6 years. This is comon. its not a macho thing. this is part of the sport.....great move Rhadi! Im going to try to add this move to my style.
kwagner523 2 years ago 15
This comment is one of the truest things I have seen on youtube. That move is completely legal. I do wish Rhadi would have given the guy another second or 2 to tap, but that is the life of a Judoka in competition. I will add this technique to my skill set as well.
nonstophero0079 2 years ago
@kwagner523 agreed up to the point that he should have gave him the chance to tap out.
mohyooo 1 year ago
@kwagner523 The reason why everyone says it was an asshole move is because in Judo the rules say you have to give your opponent a chance to tap before you break it. Rhadi didn't give his opponent a chance to tap.
ad1693 9 months ago
@ad1693
Only in American rules, the IJF rules dont state anything like that.
RodrigoCabanillas 9 months ago
@RodrigoCabanillas and thats why the IJF rules are much better than the USJA rules.
ad1693 9 months ago
I disagree with markkerr101. I play judo and that armbar lacked control. A good joint guy will work the armbar in. once you have that arm straightened out, it belongs to you. If I was the ref I would have disqualified ferguson. thats not good judo right there.
CoolLikeKano 2 years ago
Looked like he didn't have time to tap. Rhadi shouldn't have gone so fast once he had it locked up.
jh883 2 years ago
nobody here knows anything about fighting or bjj or judo.
my last fight i broke the guys arm in half. he didnt tap in time. hey its either u or me its a brutal sport if you dont want to take a risk accidents happen. if you do a move half assed there is a chance the guy will escape and wont tap. if you dont like it and cant handle that fact dont compete pussies go play chess or checkers
markkerr101 2 years ago
agreed markkerr101. arm joints arent stronger than a whole bodys resistance so it cannot be helped. and people on youtube talk so much s**t because they dont truly know how the sport goes firsthand.
tvskat 2 years ago
shut the fuck up..
CodeRedMD6969 2 years ago
@CodeRedMD6969 sorry rhadi broke your arm faggot
markkerr101 2 years ago
ATTENTION YOUTUBE, we have an e-thug
CodeRedMD6969 2 years ago 2
@CodeRedMD6969 ur the one who said fuck you dumbass. suck my big dick punk id kick your ass
markkerr101 2 years ago
does anyone honestly think that the other guy wouldn't do the same to him given the chance?
NYCTAT 2 years ago
rhadi is kimbo's cousin
tonetonevolume 2 years ago
i was gonna post comment exclaiming what a dooshbag rhadi is for executing the technique like this, but a bazillion other people beat me to the punch.
whatever, rhadi, you're a dooshbag!
bluedynamitemetranom 2 years ago
Damn Rhadi, I was going to buy your MAXIMUM DUMBBELL TRAINING but fuck that your not getting dime of my money you piece of shit.
reiksmarshal 2 years ago
Wow, I just lost all respect for that guy. What an asshole move.
CndJim 2 years ago
I'd have to agree, an experienced Judoka knows the "breaking point", this is an example of no control and no respect for your opponent, been there done that, Iv'e had my arm hyperextended.
CliffVictory 2 years ago
I had a similar thing almost happen. I had my armed pinned against my body on an armbar like that. I yelled out "TAP" several times because I couldn't physically tap. The SOB kept pulling and was like "oh I didn't know you were tapping"...what part of the word TAP do you not understand. Some guys get too hot shot and forget it's not the goal to injure but to submit the opponent. A-holes. Ferguson too! look at his body language after the ref stops it.
fdiaz05 2 years ago 3
Sick arm lock by ferguson, But absolutely no regard to his opponents well being. In competition it's just like training judo or bjj you apply the technique and secure it but you dont finish immediately. If the opponent doesnt want to tap different story but this was irresponsible for someone of rhadi's caliber.
bearboy01 2 years ago
Ideally, yes, but you have to keep in mind that in elite competition, sometimes you can't be ideal and a "win at all costs" attitude is actually very in line with elite competition sport.
TheSovietAlliance 2 years ago 3
what happened at 0.46?
kingofironfist0 2 years ago
He lied down to avoid getting immobilized, I think
mafius1 2 years ago
the arm broke as he tapped, also this is why you tap the person not the mat.
mrcarljames 2 years ago
What an asshole, I just lost all respect for Ferguson. What a bastard, really. Dude should never be allowed inside a dojo again with the way he broke that arm. I mean, his oponent already clapped on the mat before it broke. That means he kept pulling anyway. makes me mad just seeing this.
Rhadi Ferguson = unparalleled stupidity and respectless
Fenstor 2 years ago
look at damn black nigga no judo 2:19
lileezyejr 2 years ago
That snap did not sound nice at all i grabbed my arm when i saw him do dat...dat wasnt cool...ow
AssassinoftheSound17 2 years ago
This is why I have no interest in competitions. Making progress is enough for me.
gregoryfromcali 2 years ago
Why Rhadi why?
Roid Rage????
Come on man?
Mutual welfare and benefit!
ESTEBEVERDE 2 years ago
Douche Move Rhadi...
Douche Move.....
ESTEBEVERDE 3 years ago
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taekwondo is better than judo
applehead0541 3 years ago
haha hell no JUDO is self defence taekwondo is for wannabes.. Judo is a art where u use the opponents Power throw him.
(soz for bad english:D)
Zystems 3 years ago
I think you are 100% Correct!
Would you please come by our Judo Dojo and do some randori with us? ;-)
ESTEBEVERDE 3 years ago
Yes please, I'd love to see that.
Dynaman21 2 years ago
it would be fun for a minute or two until the guy bailed or had to go to the hospital.
Taekwondon't isn't sound.
ESTEBEVERDE 2 years ago
How so? Because it is a striking art? Most TKD kicks are impractical to say the least and it's hand work is nothing to boast about. If you want to argue in favor of MT or even kyokushin karate, then go ahead, but give some evidence or a line of reasoning. There has yet to be a successful fighter who's primary base is TKD in any mixed martial arts competition (mma is the only platform to make this comparison besides hypothetical streetfights) but judo has had multiple top 10 fighters.
tgtennis 3 years ago
I heard this Radhi is Kimbo's cousin.
TauPhiQue 3 years ago
Apparently all the grappling genes ended up with Radhi then.
Dynaman21 2 years ago
Holy! I do judo, that wat beast!
alecthearcher 3 years ago
Wow! that was very painful, I have been there.
I used to do BJJ and everytime some white belt would learn that, he would try to see if it would indeed snap an arm. One pulled it REAL fast and snap, my arm broke. Its been a year, but I cant extend my arm right.
This is Judo, what happend to Jita Kyoei?
Godspeed238 3 years ago
C'mon guys, this is an international judo comp, not some local tournament. That's just how it goes. U never go out there w/ intent to injure, but you have to STAY mentally sharp throughout the whole day. Someone elses situation CANNOT cause a lapse n focus. I just came back from 5 mos of rehabbing a complete LCL tear and I tore my quad muscle off the bone 10 days b4 the tournament. I wasn't happy to begin with. Steve Edmonds and Italked afterwards while getting massages by the pool the next day.
judomachine 3 years ago 6
@judomachine yep like my istructor says when your pissing about at the club you just put pressure on to hurt them but the second you walk into a tournment you aim to break there arm no second though about it if you get the chance do it
reesk92 1 year ago
@judomachine Once the animal adrenaline kicked in, it looked like he DID have the intent to injure. Given the amount of control he had, he could have easily made him tap in a respectful manner. Remember, this is a sport, not a street fight or the fucking jungle. I think you can tell where his mind is at when he gets up and you can visibly see he's like "Yeah, bitch, I just broke your arm." Not cool or ok. Just feral.
SirPrufrock 1 year ago
@judomachine radhi I think you could get the submission being more careful. You always must look for your opponent integrity, even if its a high level competition. Take care
marcosinemb 1 year ago
did he need to bang that on quite so hard, and in judo a certain amount of respect should be shown to your opponent, he shows no concern for the damage he may have inflicted.
senseimrg 3 years ago
ferguson showed no respect, very poor
senseimrg 3 years ago
How so? He just got up how is that showing no respect? Did you see the end of the match, did Ferguson talk smack? nah he just got up and moved to a neutral side of the mat
Godsmasher22 3 years ago 2
he did not care about his opponent injury. Quite unfair, expecially for a judoka.
ventoforte65 3 years ago
This video doesn't make him look all that respectful. Who knows the real circumstances, but he had to know the guys arm was broken.
Robopencil 3 years ago
owch!
MrSweetPotato 3 years ago
Dam that sucks, kind of hard to tap in that position, Rahdi proly wouldnt have let go if it were not for the scream... OUCH!!
basedeal 3 years ago
Tome nage to Juji gatame!!!!
One of the best prise ever!!!
It must be realy painful^^
theJibs85 3 years ago
tomenage to juji gatame is a combanation used alot in Judo
georgeee1 3 years ago
georgee1 is right, some ppl call it 'flying juji gatame' :)
Karudzik 3 years ago
LOL....WALKED AWAY LIKE SHIT HAPPENS
thatmanzu55 3 years ago
kimbo slice's cousin
samueljohnston 3 years ago