Yes, yes, 40 years ago I prayed and asked God if this religion was true! God directed me to massive amounts of information -- including the Holy Bible -- that showed me it's not true! @8:41 "We're not fighting against another religion." Gee, that's funny. They came to my door and tried to pursuade me to switch from my church to theirs. I never went to their door and tried the reverse!
Yes, yes, 40 years ago I prayed and asked God if this religion was true! God directed me to massive amounts of information -- including the Holy Bible -- that showed me it's not true!
I like how if some one says something against the Mormon faith and are called ANTI-MORMONS, but what should the Mormon apostles,prophets and general authority that put down other "christian" sects.Wasn't it Orsen P.Pratt who stated that Catholics and Prots were the "Whores of Babylon"?Was he an Anti Catholic/Protestant?
@rickgigliotti Mormons believe & pray to only one God, our Heavenly Father. The Godhead constitutes God The Father, The Son, and The Holy Ghost. Don't misconstrue the Godhead, Mormons believe in only one Eternal God whose only begotten Son Jesus Christ is the Savior of mankind. Being the Godhead derives of three distinct separate entities many anti-LDS cite this as polytheism. However, this is not true, LDS pray to only one God, our Father in Heaven, in the name of Jesus Christ.
@rickgigliotti No, "Elohim" not "Elohem" is used as a name for God the Eternal Father. LDS do believe Christ will bestow all that He has upon those who are exalted in heaven, which includes Godhood. Yet, God the Father is, and always will be our Father in Heaven. The Old and New Testament speak of many gods, but only one true Father in Heaven. I thinks it's (John 20:17,) forgive me if I'm wrong, "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God." This is the LDS God.
@rickgigliotti LDS worship one God. A purposeful attempt to pervert a faith in the name of love is intellectually & morally dishonest. I see you consistently spam LDS sites, perhaps research is needed away from anti-mormon sites. LDS do not subscribe to the Nicene Creed & Trinitarianism. The Trinity is comprised via man, not the Bible. God does work as Spirit through the GH & we are saved by Grace. I invite you to truly come unto Christ, & find the peace & Joy you seem to be lacking & deserve.
@rickgigliotti -- As late as 2005 & 2006, Romney made jokes like this? "I believe marriage should be between a man and a woman … and a woman … and a woman," Romney quipped at the 2005 St. Patrick's Day breakfast in Boston. He made the same joke on Don Imus' 2006 St. Patrick's Day show. Romney's family tree has lots of polygamy. and his father was born in Mexico. He's currently trying to convince the Tea Party he's a good Christian who will reduce the debt.
@RandomBackground Your comment in nature is argumentative and contentious. If your intention is to be peaceful & pro Tortoise, why post at all? If you seek to belittle ones faith & God, have the moral and intellectual courage to do so. To demean ones God, principles, & values in which they believe, practice, and hold sacred warrants a level of honesty I believe.
@jeraboo29 Now what did you have to go and do that for? Also, I don't remember any tortoises being involved?!!?However if you choose to believe in a charlatan of the lowest level then go right ahead and do so. Or if you want to actually want to discover the truth and do some research for yourself, I encourage you.
Why are Mormon's so ignorant? You believe that simply praying to 'god' will give you an answer. The logic behind that is foolish seeing as you have to believe to get an answer. An answer of which there can only be one. If you want to get a real answer with scientific evidence, do some research and you'll see why Mormonism is so hilariously fraudulent. Or, you can ignore this advice and come back with some clever little argument.
@RandomBackground Your argument based on name calling lacks validity & is not persuasive. Why such name calling? Yes, Mormons believe in prayer & direct revelation. And, that is the answer to your questions on ignorance, logic, & scientific evidence. Many convert to the LDS faith due to it reconciling with science & logic. How familiar are you with LDS? I ask because Atheists, Agnostics, & those who promote logic, science, tend to be LDS sympathetic. It may be worth a deeper look for you.
@jeraboo29 I ask you again to research about the Mormon faith with an open mind, and no I am not talking about biased 'anti-mormon' literature which has no purpose. I am talking about independent essays, studies, lectures, interviews and the like of scientists etc.. These have disproved Mormonism time and time again, you will honestly be surprised if you research with, as I said before, an open mind.
@jeraboo29 I was a member of the church for fourteen years, I am now sixteen. My parents were members all of their lives and my brother still is. Also I still have plenty of Mormon friends.
Mitt Romney had consistently strong poll numbers across all demographic groups. Interestingly, although he is a Mormon, he led the pack among Catholic voters, even beating out Palin, 23.6 percent to 21.1 percent.
@omiolo -- ROMNEY'S 2012 PLAN CUTS MEDICARE--Ron Paul’s plan cuts $1 trillion the first year & balances the budget in 3 years. The plan cuts spending by ending the costly foreign wars, and cuts foreign welfare, corporate welfare, and overgrown federal bureaucracy. These cuts are made so that those who are dependent on domestic spending programs such as Medicare aren’t endangered through a sudden change in benefits. Romney’s plan cuts Medicare, on which many elderly Americans rely.
Emboldened by conservative supporters, Romney is keeping his eyes on 2012 presidential prize. Romney has been delivering a lot of keynoters and political endorsements around the nation and is getting ready to launch a book-promotion tour
Answer: No one so far. Mitt Romney, the venture capitalist and former governor of Massachusetts who ran a pretty good campaign in 2008, remains the class of the field but kept a low profile in 2009. Mike Huckabee led in some polls of Republicans that also found Sarah Palin popular.
But Huckabee ended the year uncertain about running (and damaged by a clemency scandal from his days as Arkansas governor). Romney remains too much a general election candidate, a problem for the Democrats to be sure but far from the average Republican activist's cup of tea. His past positions on social issues were too styled to Massachusetts, and his Mormonism still leaves the party's religious base lukewarm at best."
I live in Lyons, which is like 20 minutes from HC and like 15 from Palmyra. You can always tell when Mormonstock is going on because the town is overrun by smiling, beaming faces and cars bearing Utah plates.
The LDS church sounds real good. I just have one problem. If we are all the children of God why does the Bible talk about hell and damnation. Isn't someone in trouble here? I mean all that wrath of God stuff must be for some reason. So if we are all the children of God, which of his chidren go to hell?
HEAVEN & HELL BELIEF vs. FATHER'S MANY MANSIONS....
All Christians are taught with only two choices (Heaven or Hell) Christians even believe Mr.Ghandi is in Hell while the prisoner that was on the cross with Jesus is saved & in Heaven...Do you think that is just judgments?
The LDS Church believe in many mansions as promised to us by Jesus Christ (JOHN.14:2-3) and as described by Paul during the resurrection in different glories. (1CORR.15:40-41)
The word of God is in the church that authenticated the forged documents created by Mark Hofman? The church that allowed Ted Bundy to become a member? The church based on the tall tales of Joseph Smith, the man who couldn't tell the same story twice?
That church?
It looks like you have a lot to learn about your own faith.
I love the Hill Cumorah Pageant. I was baptized in August 2008 after years of reading, praying, and asking my friend and her family many, many questions.
My mother has always been kind enough to take me every year since my friend moved away, even though she is not LDS.
This pageant is so beautiful, and I feel such a wonderful presence each time I go.
I live about forty-five minutes from there, but I can only go once a year, at the time of the Pageant. It's always so beautiful there. I love all the sites there, but I think that my favorite is the Sacred Grove.
Contrary to other Churches, LDS, think no less of a soul regardless of their sexuality. LDS believe everyone is a literal child of God & we are commanded to love & serve one another. The gay issue is with the eternal family, not damnation. For the family to be eternal, & progress to the next life together, one must be sealed & married as man & wife. This is central to God's plan, & LDS believe in this with great conviction & sacredness. Thus, they exhibit the positive attributes you cited.
The LDS Church has a rich history regarding ethnicity. In the 1800's, LDS were hit with an extermination order in Missouri, partly for being anti-slave. Today, their are more LDS outside the U.S. than inside. The Church has grown at super rates in Mexico, Africa, S. America, & the inner city. The priesthood ban, lifted in the 1970's, from my understanding was in regards to blood line. At times, through the scriptures, the Lord may take his priesthood for a time, & than fully give it back.
Oh no, Lucem2, I respect your beliefs, and you would never have to convince me of your world views. I would definitely respect them. I apologize if I seemed like I was arguing. I was trying to share a little bit regarding those issues you mentioned. You had many nice things to say about LDS, I appreciate that.
@jeraboo29 : "Contrary to other Churches, LDS, think no less of a soul regardless of their sexuality." Wasn't the Mormon church largely responsible for prop 8 passing?
LDS (2% of CA) did play an important role in Prop. 8. Yes, LDS believe every human is a literal child of God sent to earth as part of His plan. Central to this is the family. LDS believe families can be eternal & progress together in the next life. With any policy that disturbs marriage, LDS will vote their conscious. LDS believe those who are gay have a special earthly trial. God loves all his children equally. Prop. 8 is not an issue of damnation rather an issue of protecting something sacred.
wgordon8, it is apparent you have not read the Holy Bible or the Book Of Mormon. Is this true? Why so much vile with so little knowledge? Why deny someones right to exist or worship freely? I invite you to read the Holy Bible, and the Book of Mormon, pray to know if it's true. I have known many who have shared your views, and have found peace and joy after praying about the Book Of Mormon. Just countless stories, let me know if you need a copy, good luck!
wgordon8, please do not post your bigoted comments here, this is not the forum for it. You have your own channel to spew vile hatred, if that is your wish. May the Lord soften your heart and bring you enlightenment. Study LDS history, as most of the names and places you cited were spelled incorrectly. As well, many of your sentences were false, & incoherent. Your Heavenly Father loves you, I invite you to learn of Him, & His Son Jesus Christ, that you may find the peace & joy you seek.
Wow I am pretty surprised by Mitt's behavior during the commercial break! He usually shows more control. He should have just politely asked him to stop.
It is tough being the new kid on the block. Anytime you challenge the status quo people are going to be upset. Look what happened to Jesus the Christ.
Yes, yes, 40 years ago I prayed and asked God if this religion was true! God directed me to massive amounts of information -- including the Holy Bible -- that showed me it's not true! @8:41 "We're not fighting against another religion." Gee, that's funny. They came to my door and tried to pursuade me to switch from my church to theirs. I never went to their door and tried the reverse!
bumperstickerguy 4 months ago
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bumperstickerguy 4 months ago
Yes, yes, 40 years ago I prayed and asked God if this religion was true! God directed me to massive amounts of information -- including the Holy Bible -- that showed me it's not true!
bumperstickerguy 4 months ago
I like how if some one says something against the Mormon faith and are called ANTI-MORMONS, but what should the Mormon apostles,prophets and general authority that put down other "christian" sects.Wasn't it Orsen P.Pratt who stated that Catholics and Prots were the "Whores of Babylon"?Was he an Anti Catholic/Protestant?
IRISHBUDDAFILTH 5 months ago
heh, I met one of the actresses at my school randomly. I'm not LDS.
drewskione 8 months ago
I have been to the Manti Pageant.
Mormonism is NOT Christian. Mormonism believes is many gods.
If Mormons want to become Christians, there is good news! You still can be...
rickgigliotti 11 months ago
@rickgigliotti Mormons believe & pray to only one God, our Heavenly Father. The Godhead constitutes God The Father, The Son, and The Holy Ghost. Don't misconstrue the Godhead, Mormons believe in only one Eternal God whose only begotten Son Jesus Christ is the Savior of mankind. Being the Godhead derives of three distinct separate entities many anti-LDS cite this as polytheism. However, this is not true, LDS pray to only one God, our Father in Heaven, in the name of Jesus Christ.
jeraboo29 11 months ago
@jeraboo29 you might only "pray" to one god, but you believe in many gods
rickgigliotti 11 months ago
@rickgigliotti Just one Heavenly Father, and his Son Jesus Christ, our Redeemer. Read reply.
jeraboo29 11 months ago
@jeraboo29 Elohem was one of many Mormon gods and Mormons can become gods themselves and populate their own world.
rickgigliotti 11 months ago
@rickgigliotti No, "Elohim" not "Elohem" is used as a name for God the Eternal Father. LDS do believe Christ will bestow all that He has upon those who are exalted in heaven, which includes Godhood. Yet, God the Father is, and always will be our Father in Heaven. The Old and New Testament speak of many gods, but only one true Father in Heaven. I thinks it's (John 20:17,) forgive me if I'm wrong, "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God." This is the LDS God.
jeraboo29 11 months ago
@jeraboo29 Thanks for pointing out another major reason why Mormonism is NOT Christian. Mormonism believes is many gods.
Christians love Mormons and really want them to understand the Truth in God of the Bible.
God is a spirit. John 4:24, Numbers 23:19
The Trinity is true. Mormonism teaches one thing, but Mormon scripture contradicts itself.
Ephesians 2:8-9 saved by grace alone. Titus 3:5 not of works
Only one(1) God. Isaiah 43:10, 44:6
rickgigliotti 10 months ago
@rickgigliotti LDS worship one God. A purposeful attempt to pervert a faith in the name of love is intellectually & morally dishonest. I see you consistently spam LDS sites, perhaps research is needed away from anti-mormon sites. LDS do not subscribe to the Nicene Creed & Trinitarianism. The Trinity is comprised via man, not the Bible. God does work as Spirit through the GH & we are saved by Grace. I invite you to truly come unto Christ, & find the peace & Joy you seem to be lacking & deserve.
jeraboo29 10 months ago
@rickgigliotti stop being a silly goose.
drewskione 8 months ago
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@rickgigliotti -- As late as 2005 & 2006, Romney made jokes like this? "I believe marriage should be between a man and a woman … and a woman … and a woman," Romney quipped at the 2005 St. Patrick's Day breakfast in Boston. He made the same joke on Don Imus' 2006 St. Patrick's Day show. Romney's family tree has lots of polygamy. and his father was born in Mexico. He's currently trying to convince the Tea Party he's a good Christian who will reduce the debt.
vechorik 3 months ago
what silly people,,,believing in invisible men in the sky....tsk tsk
Frankelfinkel 1 year ago
The Book of Mormon is true.
brian8793 1 year ago
@brian8793
I know. Just like the Bible and the Quaran.
tokinblckgie 1 year ago
@tokinblckgie Ok, if that is your true feeling, then what can I say?
God Bless : )
brian8793 1 year ago
There are so many ways I could insult Mormonism right now and disprove it but I'd just like to say this instead: "I like turtles"
See...much more peaceful.
RandomBackground 1 year ago
@RandomBackground ???
jeraboo29 1 year ago
@jeraboo29 Exactly, no arguments.
RandomBackground 1 year ago
@RandomBackground Your comment in nature is argumentative and contentious. If your intention is to be peaceful & pro Tortoise, why post at all? If you seek to belittle ones faith & God, have the moral and intellectual courage to do so. To demean ones God, principles, & values in which they believe, practice, and hold sacred warrants a level of honesty I believe.
jeraboo29 1 year ago
@jeraboo29 Now what did you have to go and do that for? Also, I don't remember any tortoises being involved?!!?However if you choose to believe in a charlatan of the lowest level then go right ahead and do so. Or if you want to actually want to discover the truth and do some research for yourself, I encourage you.
RandomBackground 1 year ago
@jeraboo29
Why are Mormon's so ignorant? You believe that simply praying to 'god' will give you an answer. The logic behind that is foolish seeing as you have to believe to get an answer. An answer of which there can only be one. If you want to get a real answer with scientific evidence, do some research and you'll see why Mormonism is so hilariously fraudulent. Or, you can ignore this advice and come back with some clever little argument.
RandomBackground 1 year ago
@RandomBackground Your argument based on name calling lacks validity & is not persuasive. Why such name calling? Yes, Mormons believe in prayer & direct revelation. And, that is the answer to your questions on ignorance, logic, & scientific evidence. Many convert to the LDS faith due to it reconciling with science & logic. How familiar are you with LDS? I ask because Atheists, Agnostics, & those who promote logic, science, tend to be LDS sympathetic. It may be worth a deeper look for you.
jeraboo29 1 year ago
@jeraboo29 As my last sentence predicted: a clever little argument.
RandomBackground 1 year ago
@jeraboo29 I ask you again to research about the Mormon faith with an open mind, and no I am not talking about biased 'anti-mormon' literature which has no purpose. I am talking about independent essays, studies, lectures, interviews and the like of scientists etc.. These have disproved Mormonism time and time again, you will honestly be surprised if you research with, as I said before, an open mind.
RandomBackground 1 year ago
@jeraboo29 I was a member of the church for fourteen years, I am now sixteen. My parents were members all of their lives and my brother still is. Also I still have plenty of Mormon friends.
RandomBackground 1 year ago
Mitt Romney had consistently strong poll numbers across all demographic groups. Interestingly, although he is a Mormon, he led the pack among Catholic voters, even beating out Palin, 23.6 percent to 21.1 percent.
omiolo 2 years ago
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@omiolo -- ROMNEY'S 2012 PLAN CUTS MEDICARE--Ron Paul’s plan cuts $1 trillion the first year & balances the budget in 3 years. The plan cuts spending by ending the costly foreign wars, and cuts foreign welfare, corporate welfare, and overgrown federal bureaucracy. These cuts are made so that those who are dependent on domestic spending programs such as Medicare aren’t endangered through a sudden change in benefits. Romney’s plan cuts Medicare, on which many elderly Americans rely.
vechorik 2 months ago
I assume these comments are monitored.
atrasz 2 years ago
7. Mitt Romney
Emboldened by conservative supporters, Romney is keeping his eyes on 2012 presidential prize. Romney has been delivering a lot of keynoters and political endorsements around the nation and is getting ready to launch a book-promotion tour
omiolo 2 years ago
Answer: No one so far. Mitt Romney, the venture capitalist and former governor of Massachusetts who ran a pretty good campaign in 2008, remains the class of the field but kept a low profile in 2009. Mike Huckabee led in some polls of Republicans that also found Sarah Palin popular.
omiolo 2 years ago
But Huckabee ended the year uncertain about running (and damaged by a clemency scandal from his days as Arkansas governor). Romney remains too much a general election candidate, a problem for the Democrats to be sure but far from the average Republican activist's cup of tea. His past positions on social issues were too styled to Massachusetts, and his Mormonism still leaves the party's religious base lukewarm at best."
omiolo 2 years ago
I live in Lyons, which is like 20 minutes from HC and like 15 from Palmyra. You can always tell when Mormonstock is going on because the town is overrun by smiling, beaming faces and cars bearing Utah plates.
ChristianMott 2 years ago
The LDS church sounds real good. I just have one problem. If we are all the children of God why does the Bible talk about hell and damnation. Isn't someone in trouble here? I mean all that wrath of God stuff must be for some reason. So if we are all the children of God, which of his chidren go to hell?
ted1611 2 years ago
Ref...ted1611
HEAVEN & HELL BELIEF vs. FATHER'S MANY MANSIONS....
All Christians are taught with only two choices (Heaven or Hell) Christians even believe Mr.Ghandi is in Hell while the prisoner that was on the cross with Jesus is saved & in Heaven...Do you think that is just judgments?
The LDS Church believe in many mansions as promised to us by Jesus Christ (JOHN.14:2-3) and as described by Paul during the resurrection in different glories. (1CORR.15:40-41)
leSavaii 2 years ago
The Book of Mormon is not about hell and damnation.
JohnRhysMusician 2 years ago
You're right; it's a cheap copy of the Bible stolen from the Bible.
moparmonster1965 1 year ago
You don't have to believe, but you are missing out on the word of God.
JohnRhysMusician 1 year ago
The word of God is in the church that authenticated the forged documents created by Mark Hofman? The church that allowed Ted Bundy to become a member? The church based on the tall tales of Joseph Smith, the man who couldn't tell the same story twice?
That church?
It looks like you have a lot to learn about your own faith.
moparmonster1965 1 year ago
I love the Hill Cumorah Pageant. I was baptized in August 2008 after years of reading, praying, and asking my friend and her family many, many questions.
My mother has always been kind enough to take me every year since my friend moved away, even though she is not LDS.
This pageant is so beautiful, and I feel such a wonderful presence each time I go.
CrystalChord2010 2 years ago
I love Palmyra. I had an opportunity to live there for 6 months last year, it was awesome!
jeraboo29 2 years ago
I live about forty-five minutes from there, but I can only go once a year, at the time of the Pageant. It's always so beautiful there. I love all the sites there, but I think that my favorite is the Sacred Grove.
CrystalChord2010 2 years ago
I'm agnostic, but if I have to pick one religion that would be LDS.
They seem to be the more organized and more true to their convictions. I also like the real community spirit among their members.
I only dislike its no tolerance to homosexual people and the racist past..
Lucem2 2 years ago
Contrary to other Churches, LDS, think no less of a soul regardless of their sexuality. LDS believe everyone is a literal child of God & we are commanded to love & serve one another. The gay issue is with the eternal family, not damnation. For the family to be eternal, & progress to the next life together, one must be sealed & married as man & wife. This is central to God's plan, & LDS believe in this with great conviction & sacredness. Thus, they exhibit the positive attributes you cited.
jeraboo29 2 years ago
The LDS Church has a rich history regarding ethnicity. In the 1800's, LDS were hit with an extermination order in Missouri, partly for being anti-slave. Today, their are more LDS outside the U.S. than inside. The Church has grown at super rates in Mexico, Africa, S. America, & the inner city. The priesthood ban, lifted in the 1970's, from my understanding was in regards to blood line. At times, through the scriptures, the Lord may take his priesthood for a time, & than fully give it back.
jeraboo29 2 years ago
Is impossible to argue on Religious Memes.
OK I could discuss but is extensive and totally different from Dogma.
Even if I manage to convince you on my world views, I won't feel good about spoiling your spiritual world.
Lucem2 2 years ago
Oh no, Lucem2, I respect your beliefs, and you would never have to convince me of your world views. I would definitely respect them. I apologize if I seemed like I was arguing. I was trying to share a little bit regarding those issues you mentioned. You had many nice things to say about LDS, I appreciate that.
jeraboo29 2 years ago
@jeraboo29 : "Contrary to other Churches, LDS, think no less of a soul regardless of their sexuality." Wasn't the Mormon church largely responsible for prop 8 passing?
Zagrebish 2 years ago
LDS (2% of CA) did play an important role in Prop. 8. Yes, LDS believe every human is a literal child of God sent to earth as part of His plan. Central to this is the family. LDS believe families can be eternal & progress together in the next life. With any policy that disturbs marriage, LDS will vote their conscious. LDS believe those who are gay have a special earthly trial. God loves all his children equally. Prop. 8 is not an issue of damnation rather an issue of protecting something sacred.
jeraboo29 2 years ago
We don't need the wacko religion founded by Joseph Smith informing the rest of us on what is sacred.
Illiknight 2 years ago
wgordon8, it is apparent you have not read the Holy Bible or the Book Of Mormon. Is this true? Why so much vile with so little knowledge? Why deny someones right to exist or worship freely? I invite you to read the Holy Bible, and the Book of Mormon, pray to know if it's true. I have known many who have shared your views, and have found peace and joy after praying about the Book Of Mormon. Just countless stories, let me know if you need a copy, good luck!
jeraboo29 3 years ago
wgordon8, please do not post your bigoted comments here, this is not the forum for it. You have your own channel to spew vile hatred, if that is your wish. May the Lord soften your heart and bring you enlightenment. Study LDS history, as most of the names and places you cited were spelled incorrectly. As well, many of your sentences were false, & incoherent. Your Heavenly Father loves you, I invite you to learn of Him, & His Son Jesus Christ, that you may find the peace & joy you seek.
jeraboo29 3 years ago
Wow I am pretty surprised by Mitt's behavior during the commercial break! He usually shows more control. He should have just politely asked him to stop.
JohnRhysMusician 3 years ago
i was in a performance of this, well not exactly this, but it was fun. I had a solo part
Burningupbunny 3 years ago
It is tough being the new kid on the block. Anytime you challenge the status quo people are going to be upset. Look what happened to Jesus the Christ.
omiolo1 3 years ago