can u tell me plz if we have came from ( fish,frog,dissonances,.......) or any other thing u mentioned chimpanzee so where did they come from for the first time?????????????????
@MrCobra811 Morals come from society's customs, and every enough evolved being can understand them is they ask them selves what wouldn't they like to happen to them from other beings. Example: Violence must be bad because i wouldn't want it to happen to me from other understanding creatures. The same goes for Good - Evil.
@MrCobra811 You'd be surprised to know that a thousand years ago (middle ages) it was a common thing for a royal family to marry other sisters and cousins. It wasn't until a few hundred years ago that science has proven that crossed genes reproduce inferior children and, even sometimes mutated.
@Derp665 Ou really , People are not having sex with their parents because they are worried about the kids , not that they are not attracted to each other !
The only thing that worries u is that Kids are born inferior other wise you would have sex with your parents no problemos ,but you could use protection and still do it today , this is sick , same as atheims is sick
You are trying to make humans animals and that is ok to you ! weehhh
@pedarikarhu True some weird info does exist out there,would suggest a book that will help out in the future Google:Tyrany Of Words by Stuart Chase peace.
Evolutionists... question. Do you believe in the theory of the multiple universes to explain how it is that all the 'laws' required to sustain intelligent life in this universe have coinsided here and now and despite the unbelieveable odds of it happening? Would you admit that would require far more faith to believe that then me believing in a God I have personally experienced and is described in the Bible, creating it all?
@82becbec well think about it. scientists have the books, the test tubes, the bunsen burners. the thousand years of peer reviewed knowledge and an empirical system of dicovering truth. what has religion got? well, just the books, and even then, just one.
@82becbec I trust an overwhelming amount of scientists with knowledge, resources, and experience, I trust evolution, I do not have faith in it. "Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see." Heb. 11:1, I cannot see god, therefore, belief in him is faith, I can see years of compiled evidence in controlled environments, and live experiments depicting speciation, that is not faith.
i love carl sagan... i wish he was here to explain his thoughts on the super kingdom of animals and fungi.... and also the fractal nature of the universe.... check out paul stamets in a tedtalk vid about the super kingdom of animals and fungi
@Nlapso yeah..."survival of the fittest", indeed. *eyes a delicious fish* so long, distant cousin! Everything with double-helix DNA is probably related to a single distant relative...that relative being a single-celled organism
I've come to the way of thinking that most (not all) of the religious sphere is pretty much only good for pressuring the scientific community to work hard and find explanations for things, progressively antiquating itself
but how did it happened, one day another an organism was born like usual but this time it had legs? and what about the organism saw that it needed to evolve?
if you believe this depopulate yourself so we can go on living untill jesus returns to prove you morons wrong. i didnt evolve from a pollip on the ocean floor. your a selfrightous hipocrit that dosnt like hearing both sides to an arguement about the THEORY of evolution. we can prove evolution on small scales. but to say any of this is fact is lunicy. were you there watching this happen over billions of years? NO! if you think a tiny dinasaur with a feather on its ass proves this. your insane!
@JoshuaFVrooman watch the michio kaku video the multiverse has eleven demensions hes one of the smartest scientists astrophysisist in the world and he explains god very well!!!
And how long did this time before time, exist? Before that time, what happened there? And before that time? And before that? And etc...? If nothing exploded then where did the explosion come from? Yet if nothing exist then how come there was something that caused that explosion? And if that something caused the explosion won't be that something be exploding not nothing? And where did it come from? Oh, and why is carbon dating only "accurate" for things we not know, not for those we do? ETC......
@ruzzdugg Those are questions that quantum physics deals with, if you have your scientific answer then you are free to present it to us instead of trying to sound rhetorical.
@ruzzdugg I said that there was NO "NOTHING"!!!! Do you even read what I write??!!! The process at which the universe's inflation (that's what it's called) started is called false vacuum decay through quantum-mechanical vacuum fluctuations. Now of course you don't understand, because you don't want to study. And if we don't know something we don't add unnecesary entities to explain, because it would create a lot more questions - hence Occam's Razor! If we don't know, we look further! Get it?
@ruzzdugg There is no such thing as nothing...there are always subatomic particles that are smaller than quarks popping in and out of existence. Only a universe that when dark matter, matter, energy, and dark energy are added together equal zero can a universe come from "nothing"...guess what happens when you take those components of our universe and add them together...you get 0.
@cararacs if add all the components of the world together you get 0? now that is the most ridiculous thing i ever heard. and how in the world do you add dark matter, matter, energy and dark energy? Black magic? Energy and matter are to different things, i know that Hawking did say they are one (which that saying alone made all his stuff bull), might as well say voltage and current is the same thing. You can't put energy and matter into one substance. Give them values, but in real life don't work
Energy and matter can be converted, one to the other. They're basically the same things in different forms. What makes them so different is the puzzling thing. Is it in large part mass, interaction with the proposed Higgs Boson? If so, finding the Higgs and understanding it would answer so many questions about the universe, hold so many answers, that it really would be the god of particles.
@ruzzdugg Energy=Matter x the speed of light squared ...I am sorry how are they you were saying they were totally different/not the same...Einstein would disagree. But I am sure listening to a physicist would be more informative: lecture: A UNIVERSE FROM NOTHING (SEARCH FOR IT)
@cararacs E= IR( voltage= current x resistance)... amps and ohms are not one and the same, current push and resistance blocks yet they both in the same formula. Yes matter contains energy, but matter isn't energy and energy isn't matter. Don't need to be a scientist to figure out this one, look at a fire, you burn wood to create heat (energy), and the wood don't become energy. Transferring from wood to elements in the air, there is energy released, yet matter only changes to an other matter.
@ruzzdugg That makes absolutely no sense...what physics program have you taken?? Matter is a form of energy..matter is composed of energy and can be converted aka become energy. The "stuff" that holds the molecules together that creates matter is energy. Which is why when you break the bonds energy is released so all in all, yes part of that piece of wood does become heat.
@cararacs well you must not understand energy.... do you know how electricity is created? by movement of electrons in the atom. That's more chemistry if you wanna be technical. Mass is made up of atoms. Atoms store and release energy, proper chemical reactions cause transfer of energy from one source of atoms to an other. Yet the atoms never disappear, only rearrange to a different compound. Ever play pool? do the pool balls disappear after you hit them? mass contains energy it isn't energy
@ruzzdugg Technichally wouldn't that be physics more than chemistry..whatev though. You can give me all the 101 speeches but I am going to trust the results from world renowned physicists and mathematicians with PhDs over you who cannot think for themselves and is gullible. I have heard both sides, I have read answers from gen and and peer-reviewed paper...religion doesn't make sense and
@ruzzdugg 2/2 sounds so ridiculous. Your gullibility is to the point where all the evidence can be in front of u and you would still say show me the evidence. I am not going to argue with someone who is convinced that skydaddy that is all powerful but does nothing...ever (oh but according to ppl 2000+ yrs ago he did stuff all the time but not anymore)...talking to you is like trying to talk the crazy out of a schizo...
@cararacs lol, if i was so gullible i'd have bought into evolution yrs ago which makes no sense at all. As for ppl with degrees and all, really who cares about the degrees when what they say don't add up at all. For if i was to bet you basically anything of a real example of energy becoming matter or matter becoming energy, you'd not be able to pull up one example. As for using matter to generate energy, that don't count because the matter don't disappear.
@ruzzdugg Matter becoming energy=the atomic bomb and the sun you idiot. Energy becoming matter...raising the heat of platinum when you do this the mass increases. Science always wins because it works. Just because you don't have to intelligence to understand a process doesn't make it false it just makes you ignorant.
@cararacs qoute " As for using matter to generate energy, that don't count because the matter don't disappear." Matter releasing energy isn't matter becoming energy. Matter still remain in one form or an other. If that was so, then it'd be possible to make a fuel that just disappears once burnt leaving no matter (not a single battery to be recycled nor any emissions, nor anything). Yet emissions is the chemical matter of what is the by product by generating the energy.
@MisterDataJack 1)So it's more like chemistry then, still wood becomes a chemical that releases energy 2) The chemical is still matter that contains energy 3) I don't think any creationist site mentions this, if it does then i don't know that 4)Just because a science books say something don't always make it all true (evolution is the biggest example) 5) It's common sense chemistry, matter changes form (H2-0, O2, O3, etc) but the atoms always remain, yet they can release\transfer energy.
Lol, this a bunch of bull. Might as well believe you can kiss a frog and 10 yrs later it'll become a prince\princess. Oh, and also, why to washed up fish DIE instead of creating lung. Has anyone found a fish with lungs? A whale or dolphin is not technically a fish either. Plus DNA can only be produced in living cells and can't exist exposed to the elements... How can ppl buy this stuff. Oh and what time did the big bang happen? Who\what blow up nothing? How long in time before time, it happened?
@CreativeVisionary92 Exactly i did study this bull, it's easier to believe in fairies then evolution. It's a centillion times more possible for fairies to exist then for evolution to happen. Just the moon along would be gone by now if the world was millions of yrs old (not say billions). Or what the great dessert? At the rate it's increasing, we'd all be living in a dessert in those billions of yrs. It's load of bull, it takes some really deep and dumb faith to believe we came from apes.
@ruzzdugg this isn't objective, none of your claims are supported by evidence. You know what? Screw this! Go remain stupid! I hope people like you will go extinct soon!
@CreativeVisionary92 Yeah, the chariots found in the read sea just like the Bible said they are, you'd probably say they were planted there. So then this atheist went out prove they not exist then goes and plants them to say he found them??? okay first of that'd be quite stupid of him and second of you can't be objective if they their or not. Or even just look at the meat the Bible said wasn't for the Israels to eat, like pork, are not really healthy for you. They even can cause health issues
@CreativeVisionary92 Or even the washing of hands, it was God who told them to wash their hands if they touch the dead or sick, hmmm.... it took the hospitals awhile to figure that out (washing hands between patients), and the number of deaths went down. Yeah i know it's common sense NOW. But wasn't THEN. Looks like God who made is universe knows and understands it really well. it's just a few of many small things the Bible pointed out before it became common sense. Or you object washing hands?
@ruzzdugg Don't you get it?! Evolution is a scientific fact!! It has nothing to do with Christianity or any other religion! There are dozens of christian educated people who don't fight against new discoveries in science and rationally process it with their mind? What's wrong with you??? But you don't even bother to look it up, do you? You have such realm of information on the internet and yet you won't use it to learn something new. Go to hell! I don't want to live on this planet anymore! :,(
@CreativeVisionary92 Oh really? evolution is a fact? well then PROVE IT, SHOW me evolution from kind of animal to an other? If animals really evolve then do we need to protect the endangered animals? Won't losing one animal make room for an other to evolve? yet why do we only lose them yet not gain new ones? Evolution is NOT science, unless you're talking about mirco, which is really adapting and\or variations of genes. Blue eyes and green eyes are still eyes. SCIENCE is good, EVOLUTION isn't.
@ruzzdugg Evolution can be observed onlyon small scales in human lifetime, because it's slow. If we want proof of long distant past we must investigate the "crime scene" like detectives. If you want direct observation search Richard Lenski and his E. Coli bacterium experiment, Lizards on Croatian islands Pod Mrcaru and Pod Kopiste, Direct speciation of salmon in Canada. You have lots of it! But first you need to understand what is says!!!! Read multiple definitions and studies of this process.
@CreativeVisionary92 lol, what an excuse, because it's slow we can't see happening now. so is it slow and then instantly happens so that we see it happen before our eyes? really if it slow then we'd see the slow changes happening. Lizards would still be gaining feathers or fur somehow. As for the tail bone.... it's to make it easier to use this thing we call a toilet. it's not useless.
@CreativeVisionary92 As for fighting science, i fight for science, yet against evolution. You wanna believe it then fine, you have the freewill to believe what you want. Yet mixing religion into science and saying it's science, is a load of bull. I never said the Bible is science, though it does contain some scientific truths, i only said i know it as truth. Yet you claim that science and evolution is one. So answer, if evolution is real, starting with this what was before the big bang?
@ruzzdugg Wrong! Absolutely wrong! Scientific theories, laws and facts are objective empirical information. If it doesn't pass falsification tests it does not belong to science. Just like pseudoscientific astrology, noetics, homeopathy, and intelligent design. Big bang? Darwinian biological evolution has NOTHING to do with big bang theory!!!! It describes the origin of species, not the universe! This is not a valid argument. Again you show you don't understand what you're criticizing at all!
@CreativeVisionary92 wow, this response has NOTHING to do with with anything in the comment. So i'm wrong that you don't have the right to believe what you want? Believe in fairies and who can stop you? you can't control what one believes. Wrong about evolution isn't science? well depends if you mean micro, macro or beginning of time. Only micro evolution is science, which you being tall or shorter would be macro evolution, along with eye color, skin tone, etc. Has nothing to do with new traits
@ruzzdugg Did you mine arguments from Kent Hovind's deceitful presentations or what? There are numerous other theories that describe the history of our universe. There is no such thing as macro or micro evolution, in scientific literature there's no term like that, I don't think so. You can't observe huge changes and division among populations, because it takes millions of years. When you observe it on a smaller scale you can apply it to a bigger.
@CreativeVisionary92 your's? hmmm... weren't you the one complaining about someone not being smart because of typos, now you made many yourself? well i'm not here trying to criticize you, but just saying if you do criticize someone about something, don't make the same mistake yourself or you make yourself look more of a fool then him. Just some friendly advice... or just don't criticize it and you'll have to worry about it less
@CreativeVisionary92 As for Kent Hovind, he is a pretty smart guy and is right on a number of things. Yes i got the TERMS themselves from him.... not the understanding. Understanding came long time before i ran across him, places like the dictionary, encyclopedia, biology book and so on. It's called common sense. You look at it and see the "evolution" changes that they have true recording of and i always thought that's not really evolving till i looked it up and saw the different kinds
@ruzzdugg Kent hovind is a clown and a silly manipulator. He absolutely doesn't look smart. If he is, then he just acts like he's so silly. He lies all the time. He claims that scientists say something, while it's absolutely not true. On top of that he can't even pay his own taxes. I hope he comes into his mind while in jail.
@CreativeVisionary92 Now on a more important note, if evolution is really real and the changes happen on small scales, then what happens when you're half way between having wings and yet they not really there? do you just get stuck in doors, the fireman have to get you out and you basically die because of them and then have no way to spread the gene or what? Seriously, if it's a slow then we'd see in between stages, if it's fast then we'd see very noticeable changes, why then we see neither?
@ruzzdugg we see between stages. Humans are transitioning right now into different forms of life. Wings for instance were formed on birds (descendants of dinosaurs) when small raptor dinosaurs, growing feathered skin to keep themselves warm, developed increasingly larger pectorial muscles to flap their arms when hunting. Eventually after a long time some of them could glide. Then it turned out to be beneficial and they went on flying. Look up Sinosauropteryx,
@CreativeVisionary92 Oh and DON't say.. a thick beak, change of skin tone, longer legs, bigger muscles, hair color, etc are examples. They're still legs, still eyes, still skin, still a beak, etc. It don't take a genius to see that changing a color of a house might make it look better but it'd still be the same exact house nor has it slowly started evolving into a boat. If you give someone a coloring page, not matter how they color it, it'd still be the same pic unless you draw something extra
@ruzzdugg dude, what bones do you think bird wings are composed of? They have the same structure: Humerus, Radius, Ulna and carpal bones... It just changed its function over time. From walking on ground to grasping things and attacking prey, to gliding, and then flying. You can never add something entirely extra, because it wouldn't work.
@CreativeVisionary92 yet once you've walked the miles you'll see from where you were to were you are, the location you are will change, but the location you've been will stay the same nor it would have disappeared. To build a house you have to start somewhere as well, but the 2x4 are still 2x4 even though they make a frame then the house, you see it slow building up. So if evolution is slow, you'd see legs slowly somehow developing, you see the gradual change. Like feathers starting to develop
@ruzzdugg And what do you think evolution is about? The organisms don't change that much after speciating. You can still compare a large percentage of genetic similarities with other animals and even with humans. This is the most trustworthy evidence for common descent. It's all about adaptation to changing environments and speciating.
@CreativeVisionary92 Now i know you'll saying nothing, so before nothing what was? What caused nothing to explode, and don't say physics or biology, because according to evolution NOTHING and NO ONE existed. Gravity, physics, biology is all something... So now lets take some science, matter can't be created or destroyed, according to that law it has to have always existed. So matter can't be made, yet it came from nothing? hmm, what about someone, let's say God, made matter exactly the way it is
@ruzzdugg Evolution =/= Big bang! again. Nobody says there was nothing. Only creationists think that everyone says that. It's not true. This video is about evolution, so why the hell do you put questions like: what was before the big bang? We don't know what was before that, because there was no time. But know this: Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, which means that all the energy was in a different form and nothingness never existed, but the energy was there for all eternity.
@CreativeVisionary92 hmm... energy was there for all eternity? now how can you believe that yet say that God (can do anything) couldn't have been for all eternity be there has to be a beginning (well at least most evolutionist and atheist say this)? So if that is so according to the general evolutionist\atheist (they not always one and the same) energy has to have a beginning as well. And what about the matter? it can't be created or destroyed either.
@ruzzdugg well you can believe that the everpresent energy is God... that's also a view. But you have to understand that if you believe in evolution, it doesn't mean you have to be an atheist. As I said vast majority of christians believe it, because it's a fact and thinking people accept facts. You don't have to be completely godless. I'm not one. I believe the Universe, galaxies, time, space, multiverse... this is the god of existence. Not a personal one, however. I'm kind of a pantheist.
@ruzzdugg Now let me give you a little test question, to find out whether you actually know what you criticize:
Write me a short definition of the process of evolution! Explain how it works, mention important factors that drive this process.
I will then grade your answer like in school. Let's see how good you are.
And this applies to anyone who criticizes evolution: Write me a definition (no cheating) and if you get an F, you don't know it and should learn more and criticize less. :D enjoy
@CreativeVisionary92 lol, might as well as a 3 yr old to give me a math test and say if he gives me an F then i don't know math. Yes i know the basics of evolution. But if i were to give you a short explanation of how it works i could give the wrong one because you might believe it a little bit different and say i'm completely wrong for there are easily 100 versions of how it exactly works. As for definition, do you mean mirco evolution, marco evolution, solar evolution, organic evolution, etc
@ruzzdugg there are no 100 versions ... organic evolution has one basis one definition. There are no differences in believing, just like every scientist takes the same kind of gravity theory into account. And I can examine your knowledge. If you want to criticize evolution, write me at least what it means! Just answer the question!
@CreativeVisionary92 Okay, i'll tell you the VERY 1st version ,i was taught in public school. 1st there was nothing, not a thing. Somehow it explode creating matter and energy. The matter slowly evolved into a big rock with then became earth on which the matter somehow became alive and became bacteria, when then at some point became a fish, and so on. I know it's a bit butchered but i'm trying to cover just the basics. This is the original one i was taught then i learn many more.
@ruzzdugg this is not what science says. Again you were given wrong information and now you think evolution is stupid, abiogenesis is stupid, and big bang as well. You were not given access to the databasis of knowledge. If you want to hear a scientific opinion i can PM you the whole thing. Do you want to hear it?
@CreativeVisionary92 sure, just send it in a message, i wanna hear your version of it. This is only the first of many of versions that i've heard, read, and watch... NOT ONE adds up. Especially hawking's explanation... so lets see what's different about your's. And i did say it was a butchered version just so i could cover the bases of the 3 different ones that were taught through out school.
@CreativeVisionary92 The latest one i've read, by an evolutionist, is that all matter was compressed (where it came from i got no clue) and started spinning really fast (what\who caused the spin?) which then spun so fast that it exploded and now over billions of yrs (in high school they only said 2-3 million but looks like it wasn't enough time so more need to be added) became what we have now. The hardest thing to buy here is how does nonlive become alive when DNA needs a living cells to exist
@ruzzdugg no this is what Kent Hovind said he heard on his seminar. Again wrong. This shows that people don't know anything about it. Again, do you want to hear the true story?
@ruzzdugg these are all lies, though. Can you name, chapter and verse, where in the bible it says to wash your hands? (I can, and it has nothing to do with hygiene)
Can you cite a single source that there were chariots found in the "read (sic) sea"?
That is the problem with you fundies, you hear a statement, and decide whether it is true based solely on your beliefs, never caring for supporting evidence at all.
The part of the bible that forbade pork also forbade shellfish and shaving.
@MisterDataJack There's a number of them, so i can't name THE chapter and verse it's written. And it was a ritual i agree, yet you ever wonder why God put it in? There's a lot that talks about washing, after handling someone sick or dead. That because you have to wash the impurities, and God knew that so He told them to do so. As for the chariots, i don't have the resource in direct access, yet i even know the guy who found it was a rich atheist and wrote a book about it. He believes in God now.
@MisterDataJack Oh and that rich ex-atheist found the chariots trying to prove the Bible is wrong. As for forbidding saving, there probably was a reason for that as well, i haven't researched into that. And with all the projects and stuff going on right now, i've gotta go out of my way just to reply, as for finding the original sources, i'm too busy lately for that. I plan on posting up a blog that will have the sources and stuff, if i find the time to.
9@ruzzdugg creatures don't evolve (like your idiot fish on the shore) populations evolve. And some fish do have primitive lungs, like say, the lungfish.
The Big Bang:
1) has nothing to do with evolution;
2) does not state "nothing blew up";
3) was not preceded by anything in our time line;
4) is supported by lots of evidence;
5) is completed misunderstood and misrepresented by you (surprise!)
@MisterDataJack A)The Big Bang is what the science books taught me when i was in High school of how the world came to be and where the progress of evolution began. B0 The Big Bang back then taught that nothing blew up C)Which timeline then would it follow? For according to evolutionist, God had to follow a timeline too (when He's not bound by time) of which He created time. 4)evidence, as you call, have all been proven either false, taken with a basis of God out of the pic, twisted, etc
@MisterDataJack E) completed misunderstood make no sense at all, as for completely misunderstood... well i do understand how evolutionist twist everything when it's proven wrong. And how every piece of evidence never points to real change, yet to show even one gene\trait being added via true evidence. It takes a lot of faith to believe this bull. I'd buy humans coming from bears over monkeys\apes for i know what a skinned bear looks like. lot more human then a monkey
@lovebigboobs29 any reason why you disagree with obvious facts, aside from the Bible? You don't have to denounce your faith in order to believe in scientific facts.
@CreativeVisionary92 Its not scientific facts. Most of science is theory. Unless the scienctists saw an ape turn into a human then there are no facts only some bullshit theory.
@lovebigboobs29Scientific theories are derived from facts and nothing else. They are quanta of information that cannot be directly observed with human senses, just with other empirical methods. God! No one can see an ape turn into a human! It took almost 10 million years, and the evidence is, fossils, morphology, genetics. If you are a detective arriving on the crime scene, you don't just assume it didn't happen because nobody saw it! Eye witness evidence is unreliable! We examine the evidence.
@lovebigboobs29 No I'm just not willing to continue in discussion with someone that isn't capable of presenting some tangible data or logical arguments, just repeating his statements and calling me stupid. On top of that, evolution is high school science. It's not that hard to understand.
@lovebigboobs29 then how do you want to uncover reality? How do you want to understand it when you reject scientific thinking? Then ,I'm afraid, you're just a being with no concern of its own progress at all.
@lovebigboobs29 Yes, you're a consumer. I can see that. Unfortunately for your belief, there's tons of evidence for that. Over 80% gene similarity with chimps, 75% with gorillas and 60% with orangutans, we are a part of the primate family. On top of that there are hundreds of fossil skulls and bones found in the birthplace of our species - Africa. Australopithecus afarensis, homo habilis, homo ergaster, homo erectus... etc.
@CreativeVisionary92 80%, well, how about lets take 20% the ocean's water and stick it in your pocket? i know it's a lot, but it's still ONLY 20%. Or how about you just give me 20% of your paycheck, because for you a 20% change is NOTHING. Yet did you know that many big company exist on 5% or less profit? Yet they can make billions? And 2% in a gene is a pretty big number. 20% is enormous. As for wiki, come on dude, that's only a good quick reference, not as a fact source.
@lovebigboobs29 and that pretty much settles our discussion, if you'll call it that, because I received no worthy contribution from you. Either you are smart enough to study the materials by yourself or you'll reject to do so and remain uneducated on this topic.
Here's some genetics: en.wikipedia org/wiki/Human_evolutionary_genetics
@CreativeVisionary92 To each their own. Reading some crap still proves nothing. Like I said unless someone sees an ape turn human its all theories. Have a good day.
@lovebigboobs29 *sigh* What alternative explanation do you have then for the origins of human race, and all organic species on planet Earth??? And the articles are not crap, I peer reviewed them with the official papers, they're real data.
@CreativeVisionary92 You're still on this silly subject. Its theory not real anything. We were created as human. Even your evolution theory is bullshit. So you say were were ape (laugh) so what put any species here or the world for that matter in the first place?? LOL yeah ok ... I dont really care of the origin of man I care about the present.
@CreativeVisionary92 Well you know a higher power. Some people recognize him as god lol I believe in God but I do believe the writings in the bible are mad written to try and control the greater population by making them believe if they do something wrong then they will burn for eternity after death. I commented because evolution is an idiotic idea. We aren't even like apes. I am not all furry and swing from trees and crave bananas. We dont look anything like them.
@lovebigboobs29 It is not the specific behavior of wild primates that defines what species is primate and what isn't. Are we endothermic mammals? YES! Are we highly social creatures with increased cranial size and five fingers on all four limbs? YES! Do we have opposable thumbs? YES! Do we have two pectoral mammary glands? YES! Do we have a trend towards holding the torso in bipedalism? YES! Do we have stereoscopic multichromatic colorful vision? YES! The answers are obvious! Fact is a fact!
@lovebigboobs29 God damn it! That's it! I showed you all necessary facts, yet you reject them and act like an idiot! You're not intelligent enough to be bothered with! You are ignorant and stubborn! I wish the world was less populated by people like you!
@CreativeVisionary92 I am very intelligent thats why I know we were never apes. I wish the world didn't have idiot whom think we evolved from apes in it but hey I guess we need entertainment. There are no facts at all we were apes. Its all theories. Hince "Theory of Evolution".
"I am very intelligent thats why I know we were never apes" lol clearly indicates the fool u r... and btw its not a theory its a fact how about reading before trying to open ur mouth u dumb ape.
@lovebigboobs29 A theory that all scientists and all physical data agree on, that can be mathematically represented, observed, and influenced by humans, but other than that, it isn't real.
@lovebigboobs29 um that debunks everything, we might as well start throwing poo at eachother for entertainement. Wait a minute that is silly Science gives us TV and computers and a bunch of things that make that a very boring silly idea like other silly ideas.
@lovebigboobs29 The Scientific method is the best way to destinguse between fantasy and reality. but it requires abilites you do not have. the abilty to say "i was wrong"
@CapQuacer Can i ask u a question? Maths , do u know what Maths is? it is not natural science , it is Logical Science. Do u believe in Maths? because Math clearly says that their are dimensions which CAN NOT Be explained by Physics and chemistry and biology...... Do u believe in science then believe in this?
@CapQuacer Well can't you see buddy, that this big boob lover loves science, i love science... yet evolution ISN'T science. Science is very very useful. yet not one profession uses evolution, not even a doctor. You don't stick a bacteria in someone and say, this will evolve the sickness away.... gravity, friction, biology (different then evolution), mechanics, etc is very useful. But something as fake as evolution has yet to find a use. You start with trying to evolve a hammer out of nothing.
@ruzzdugg evolution is used to cure sickness if you understand it. But you have to understand evolution states that all life evolves towards survive of the speicies. Virus's evolve to fight the immune system. That fact has spawned very cures.
@CapQuacer oh you talking about adapting (mirco-evolution), yeah they do that, they adapt by losing certain traits so that part can't be attacked. yet you can't use it to make a healthy bacteria\virus that's evolve by adding new traits when some other virus comes in to attack. This is downhill "evolving", so it's still not using the actual evolution as in bacteria becoming fish, tadpoles or something. So that's still not evolving as in changing into something different or adding new genes\traits
@ruzzdugg Micro and Macro is the same thing. You do know science proved the Theory with DNA right. In or DNA are these "switches" that allow traits which we have evolved out to come back. If we had a better understanding of these switches you'd be able to make a human grow a tail or fur. Things we do not need so evolution removes them. Our biology also pans it out we have the remains of a tail in the "Tail bone" and snakes have remains of legs that evoloved out over time.
@CapQuacer no, no, no.... snakes have bones to help mating, it's nothing to do with legs. And if those bones did prove they were legs, it's match the Bible that serpents had legs. But i don't think God left any leg bones but instead replaced them with bones that allow it to mate. As for the tail bone, it's the bone that makes sitting on the toilet more pleasant. i know evolutionist try to mix the 2 together so then they can "prove" their belief. Macro is addition of traits, micro is modification
@CapQuacer So if just lower a car, there's really no major change. If i add a turbo or a body kit then i am changing the car. So if i grow an actual tail, not a slightly longer tailbone (mutations do happen), it's be macro. If i have get blue eyes and everyone else in my family has brown eye, it's just micro. The color genes were already there, i was just the one who got the blue. If i were to wake up with feathers on my back one day, then that'd be macro. They are NOT one and the same.
@ruzzdugg If you grew fethers that would not be evolution, that would be an act of god. that large of a change is not possible Macro is the long term affects of Micro. Understand all your possile growth was determined before you were born. To suggest that "evolutionist mix the two together" is silly, if the Theory of Evolution say they are the same they are the same in this thoery. What you mean is in your theory of evolution they are defined that way. But we are not talking about your version.
@ruzzdugg the understanding of evolution is the soul principle of microbiology, virology, antibiotics, medicine in general. It has expanded our knowledge and allowed us to prevent often mistakes. Viruses evolve, that's why we need to know about it, so that we could develop better vaccines. Evolution is the soul principle of genetics,and that is important for innumerable cases in tissue transplantation and immunology in general. If we did not you wouldn't be alive and the world would not progress
@CreativeVisionary92 you still talking about mirco evolution which really isn't evolving. It's like saying saying a 911 evolved to a carrera s4. You'd be right with the definition that it build on the idea but the 911 didn't sit around and become a carrera s4. Same thing with genetics, yes it's effects small things like height, eye color, skin tone, everything when it comes to looks. Some ppl are even born without hands, yet one single animal or person is yet to be born with a new gene\trait
@CreativeVisionary92 so to say that a virus evolving by eliminating traits to make it less attack-able would be the same thing as cutting of you hand to keep an effection from spreading. You're still the same human with a missing hand. So is that virus the same virus with missing or moved around traits in order to created defenses. It's being mr. potatohead. That don't at all lead to some kind of new life from; it don't grow eyes, ears, fear, lungs, etc. So it's not a new virus, just modified.
@lovebigboobs29 My god you're an idiot. Don't believe in evolution, look at your tailbone. Read a book, and shut your over opinionated mouth. Look up the hominin family tree.
@JoshuaFVrooman Why the fuck do I care what historians think. I am my own person and can think for myself without some dumb fucks talking about evolution. Gravity is real or we would be floating. Nice try tho. If your an ape go swing from a tree and eat a banana dumbass. God people whom believe in evolution are total dumb fucks.
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airelavo2 1 week ago
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airelavo2 1 week ago
@MrCobra811 your inability to understand evolution doesn't mean it isn't true, it just means you're an idiot.
420FreeLife 2 weeks ago
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can u tell me plz if we have came from ( fish,frog,dissonances,.......) or any other thing u mentioned chimpanzee so where did they come from for the first time?????????????????
there mother ????? father ???
muhammadraza21 2 weeks ago
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muhammadraza21 2 weeks ago
This is crazy nonsense ! How can a normal human with brain in the head accept this bullcrap? Explain how the moral evolved now ?
MrCobra811 1 month ago
@MrCobra811 this makes perfect sense.
workinprogress1984 1 month ago
@MrCobra811 You're an idiot!
Halusal 1 month ago
@MrCobra811 Morals come from society's customs, and every enough evolved being can understand them is they ask them selves what wouldn't they like to happen to them from other beings. Example: Violence must be bad because i wouldn't want it to happen to me from other understanding creatures. The same goes for Good - Evil.
Derp665 3 weeks ago
@Derp665 When an animal has sex with his mother , there is no problem ! How did humans evolved from that?
MrCobra811 3 weeks ago
@MrCobra811 You'd be surprised to know that a thousand years ago (middle ages) it was a common thing for a royal family to marry other sisters and cousins. It wasn't until a few hundred years ago that science has proven that crossed genes reproduce inferior children and, even sometimes mutated.
Derp665 3 weeks ago
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@Derp665 Ou really , People are not having sex with their parents because they are worried about the kids , not that they are not attracted to each other !
The only thing that worries u is that Kids are born inferior other wise you would have sex with your parents no problemos ,but you could use protection and still do it today , this is sick , same as atheims is sick
You are trying to make humans animals and that is ok to you ! weehhh
MrCobra811 3 weeks ago
@MrCobra811 Search Westermarck effect from google, it can be applied to animals too.
Animals WILL try to evade reproducing with its close relatives, it's not just a human thing.
pedarikarhu 1 week ago
@pedarikarhu Mole rats do have incest...have to double check.
Katharsis540 1 week ago
@Katharsis540 Animals will do incest if its the last resort. Sure some animals might have a tendency for it, but its not as common as people think.
pedarikarhu 1 week ago
@pedarikarhu True some weird info does exist out there,would suggest a book that will help out in the future Google:Tyrany Of Words by Stuart Chase peace.
Katharsis540 1 week ago
we're here because of you, mr anderson.
hjenkinz 1 month ago 2
You-mans.
Robertsonsd 1 month ago 2
Evolutionists... question. Do you believe in the theory of the multiple universes to explain how it is that all the 'laws' required to sustain intelligent life in this universe have coinsided here and now and despite the unbelieveable odds of it happening? Would you admit that would require far more faith to believe that then me believing in a God I have personally experienced and is described in the Bible, creating it all?
82becbec 1 month ago
@82becbec well think about it. scientists have the books, the test tubes, the bunsen burners. the thousand years of peer reviewed knowledge and an empirical system of dicovering truth. what has religion got? well, just the books, and even then, just one.
hjenkinz 1 month ago
@82becbec I trust an overwhelming amount of scientists with knowledge, resources, and experience, I trust evolution, I do not have faith in it. "Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see." Heb. 11:1, I cannot see god, therefore, belief in him is faith, I can see years of compiled evidence in controlled environments, and live experiments depicting speciation, that is not faith.
TheWizardOfOsborne 1 month ago
i love carl sagan... i wish he was here to explain his thoughts on the super kingdom of animals and fungi.... and also the fractal nature of the universe.... check out paul stamets in a tedtalk vid about the super kingdom of animals and fungi
uncontainablewater 1 month ago
Jesus.
xSmartxAlecx 1 month ago
@xSmartxAlecx I knew I would find you here...
SnugglePuma 1 month ago
so if we came from the fish?.. it only means that we are cannibals.. hehehe.. joke only.
Nlapso 1 month ago
@Nlapso yeah..."survival of the fittest", indeed. *eyes a delicious fish* so long, distant cousin! Everything with double-helix DNA is probably related to a single distant relative...that relative being a single-celled organism
bgiv2010 1 month ago
We have a common ancestor with apes. No question .
oriolesfan61 1 month ago
I've come to the way of thinking that most (not all) of the religious sphere is pretty much only good for pressuring the scientific community to work hard and find explanations for things, progressively antiquating itself
bgiv2010 1 month ago
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but how did it happened, one day another an organism was born like usual but this time it had legs? and what about the organism saw that it needed to evolve?
MrGodsGiftToHumanity 2 months ago
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MrGodsGiftToHumanity 2 months ago
How could anyone dislike this?! Currently we're at 39!
bgiv2010 2 months ago
@bgiv2010 well now, 40 creationists were unpleased that god wasn't mentioned.
cararacs 1 month ago
The next evolution is augmentation..
Zoza15 2 months ago
@Zoza15 playing a little too much deus ex are we?
Bizzer10 6 days ago
Pure stupidity!
Zyvex10 2 months ago
Fake And Gay
danialmouse 2 months ago
Gay And Fake
danialmouse 2 months ago
DAAAAAAAMNN!!! 4 BILLION year old tree!!
davidda1000 2 months ago
if you believe this depopulate yourself so we can go on living untill jesus returns to prove you morons wrong. i didnt evolve from a pollip on the ocean floor. your a selfrightous hipocrit that dosnt like hearing both sides to an arguement about the THEORY of evolution. we can prove evolution on small scales. but to say any of this is fact is lunicy. were you there watching this happen over billions of years? NO! if you think a tiny dinasaur with a feather on its ass proves this. your insane!
jwmcelwee 2 months ago
@jwmcelwee And if you think woman was made by the rib of man, you're insane.
JoshuaFVrooman 2 months ago
@JoshuaFVrooman watch the michio kaku video the multiverse has eleven demensions hes one of the smartest scientists astrophysisist in the world and he explains god very well!!!
jwmcelwee 2 months ago
@jwmcelwee i've seen it, i feel that the concept of god will never be anything more than a concept to us though.
creationism just seems like such an out dated concept to me, and most of the scientific community...
JoshuaFVrooman 2 months ago
@JoshuaFVrooman watch?v=rtio9ezWQPA
JoshuaFVrooman 2 months ago
@jwmcelwee "Theoretical physicist Michio Kaku considers religious terrorism as one of the main threats in humanity's evolution"
You were saying?
;)
JoshuaFVrooman 2 months ago
if it weren´t for the music, this video is a crap...a "scientific crap" nevertheless plain crap
realhomosapiens 2 months ago
We were never apes. We were created as human.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg yes, in fact, someone has found a fish with lungs. ever hear of an african lungfish? look it up
hanan12444 2 months ago
And how long did this time before time, exist? Before that time, what happened there? And before that time? And before that? And etc...? If nothing exploded then where did the explosion come from? Yet if nothing exist then how come there was something that caused that explosion? And if that something caused the explosion won't be that something be exploding not nothing? And where did it come from? Oh, and why is carbon dating only "accurate" for things we not know, not for those we do? ETC......
ruzzdugg 3 months ago
@ruzzdugg Those are questions that quantum physics deals with, if you have your scientific answer then you are free to present it to us instead of trying to sound rhetorical.
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kserug 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg I said that there was NO "NOTHING"!!!! Do you even read what I write??!!! The process at which the universe's inflation (that's what it's called) started is called false vacuum decay through quantum-mechanical vacuum fluctuations. Now of course you don't understand, because you don't want to study. And if we don't know something we don't add unnecesary entities to explain, because it would create a lot more questions - hence Occam's Razor! If we don't know, we look further! Get it?
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg There is no such thing as nothing...there are always subatomic particles that are smaller than quarks popping in and out of existence. Only a universe that when dark matter, matter, energy, and dark energy are added together equal zero can a universe come from "nothing"...guess what happens when you take those components of our universe and add them together...you get 0.
cararacs 1 month ago
@cararacs if add all the components of the world together you get 0? now that is the most ridiculous thing i ever heard. and how in the world do you add dark matter, matter, energy and dark energy? Black magic? Energy and matter are to different things, i know that Hawking did say they are one (which that saying alone made all his stuff bull), might as well say voltage and current is the same thing. You can't put energy and matter into one substance. Give them values, but in real life don't work
ruzzdugg 1 month ago
@ruzzdugg
Energy and matter can be converted, one to the other. They're basically the same things in different forms. What makes them so different is the puzzling thing. Is it in large part mass, interaction with the proposed Higgs Boson? If so, finding the Higgs and understanding it would answer so many questions about the universe, hold so many answers, that it really would be the god of particles.
Ryakki 1 month ago
@ruzzdugg Energy=Matter x the speed of light squared ...I am sorry how are they you were saying they were totally different/not the same...Einstein would disagree. But I am sure listening to a physicist would be more informative: lecture: A UNIVERSE FROM NOTHING (SEARCH FOR IT)
cararacs 1 month ago
@cararacs E= IR( voltage= current x resistance)... amps and ohms are not one and the same, current push and resistance blocks yet they both in the same formula. Yes matter contains energy, but matter isn't energy and energy isn't matter. Don't need to be a scientist to figure out this one, look at a fire, you burn wood to create heat (energy), and the wood don't become energy. Transferring from wood to elements in the air, there is energy released, yet matter only changes to an other matter.
ruzzdugg 1 month ago
@ruzzdugg That makes absolutely no sense...what physics program have you taken?? Matter is a form of energy..matter is composed of energy and can be converted aka become energy. The "stuff" that holds the molecules together that creates matter is energy. Which is why when you break the bonds energy is released so all in all, yes part of that piece of wood does become heat.
cararacs 1 month ago
@cararacs well you must not understand energy.... do you know how electricity is created? by movement of electrons in the atom. That's more chemistry if you wanna be technical. Mass is made up of atoms. Atoms store and release energy, proper chemical reactions cause transfer of energy from one source of atoms to an other. Yet the atoms never disappear, only rearrange to a different compound. Ever play pool? do the pool balls disappear after you hit them? mass contains energy it isn't energy
ruzzdugg 1 month ago
@ruzzdugg Technichally wouldn't that be physics more than chemistry..whatev though. You can give me all the 101 speeches but I am going to trust the results from world renowned physicists and mathematicians with PhDs over you who cannot think for themselves and is gullible. I have heard both sides, I have read answers from gen and and peer-reviewed paper...religion doesn't make sense and
cararacs 1 month ago
@ruzzdugg 2/2 sounds so ridiculous. Your gullibility is to the point where all the evidence can be in front of u and you would still say show me the evidence. I am not going to argue with someone who is convinced that skydaddy that is all powerful but does nothing...ever (oh but according to ppl 2000+ yrs ago he did stuff all the time but not anymore)...talking to you is like trying to talk the crazy out of a schizo...
cararacs 1 month ago
@cararacs lol, if i was so gullible i'd have bought into evolution yrs ago which makes no sense at all. As for ppl with degrees and all, really who cares about the degrees when what they say don't add up at all. For if i was to bet you basically anything of a real example of energy becoming matter or matter becoming energy, you'd not be able to pull up one example. As for using matter to generate energy, that don't count because the matter don't disappear.
ruzzdugg 1 month ago
@ruzzdugg Matter becoming energy=the atomic bomb and the sun you idiot. Energy becoming matter...raising the heat of platinum when you do this the mass increases. Science always wins because it works. Just because you don't have to intelligence to understand a process doesn't make it false it just makes you ignorant.
cararacs 1 month ago
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@cararacs qoute " As for using matter to generate energy, that don't count because the matter don't disappear." Matter releasing energy isn't matter becoming energy. Matter still remain in one form or an other. If that was so, then it'd be possible to make a fuel that just disappears once burnt leaving no matter (not a single battery to be recycled nor any emissions, nor anything). Yet emissions is the chemical matter of what is the by product by generating the energy.
ruzzdugg 1 month ago
@ruzzdugg you are seriously misinformed. You should try to get your information from science books, not creationist web sites.
Burning wood releases chemical energy.
Matter and energy are exactly the same thing. Just in different states.
You are correct, one doesn't have to be a scientist to "figure this out", but one does have to be far more scientifically literate than you are.
MisterDataJack 1 month ago
@MisterDataJack 1)So it's more like chemistry then, still wood becomes a chemical that releases energy 2) The chemical is still matter that contains energy 3) I don't think any creationist site mentions this, if it does then i don't know that 4)Just because a science books say something don't always make it all true (evolution is the biggest example) 5) It's common sense chemistry, matter changes form (H2-0, O2, O3, etc) but the atoms always remain, yet they can release\transfer energy.
ruzzdugg 1 month ago
Lol, this a bunch of bull. Might as well believe you can kiss a frog and 10 yrs later it'll become a prince\princess. Oh, and also, why to washed up fish DIE instead of creating lung. Has anyone found a fish with lungs? A whale or dolphin is not technically a fish either. Plus DNA can only be produced in living cells and can't exist exposed to the elements... How can ppl buy this stuff. Oh and what time did the big bang happen? Who\what blow up nothing? How long in time before time, it happened?
ruzzdugg 3 months ago
@ruzzdugg What the FUCK??!!! Study it before you talk shit, damn it!!!
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 Exactly i did study this bull, it's easier to believe in fairies then evolution. It's a centillion times more possible for fairies to exist then for evolution to happen. Just the moon along would be gone by now if the world was millions of yrs old (not say billions). Or what the great dessert? At the rate it's increasing, we'd all be living in a dessert in those billions of yrs. It's load of bull, it takes some really deep and dumb faith to believe we came from apes.
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg this isn't objective, none of your claims are supported by evidence. You know what? Screw this! Go remain stupid! I hope people like you will go extinct soon!
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 Yeah, the chariots found in the read sea just like the Bible said they are, you'd probably say they were planted there. So then this atheist went out prove they not exist then goes and plants them to say he found them??? okay first of that'd be quite stupid of him and second of you can't be objective if they their or not. Or even just look at the meat the Bible said wasn't for the Israels to eat, like pork, are not really healthy for you. They even can cause health issues
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 Or even the washing of hands, it was God who told them to wash their hands if they touch the dead or sick, hmmm.... it took the hospitals awhile to figure that out (washing hands between patients), and the number of deaths went down. Yeah i know it's common sense NOW. But wasn't THEN. Looks like God who made is universe knows and understands it really well. it's just a few of many small things the Bible pointed out before it became common sense. Or you object washing hands?
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg Don't you get it?! Evolution is a scientific fact!! It has nothing to do with Christianity or any other religion! There are dozens of christian educated people who don't fight against new discoveries in science and rationally process it with their mind? What's wrong with you??? But you don't even bother to look it up, do you? You have such realm of information on the internet and yet you won't use it to learn something new. Go to hell! I don't want to live on this planet anymore! :,(
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 Oh really? evolution is a fact? well then PROVE IT, SHOW me evolution from kind of animal to an other? If animals really evolve then do we need to protect the endangered animals? Won't losing one animal make room for an other to evolve? yet why do we only lose them yet not gain new ones? Evolution is NOT science, unless you're talking about mirco, which is really adapting and\or variations of genes. Blue eyes and green eyes are still eyes. SCIENCE is good, EVOLUTION isn't.
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg Evolution can be observed onlyon small scales in human lifetime, because it's slow. If we want proof of long distant past we must investigate the "crime scene" like detectives. If you want direct observation search Richard Lenski and his E. Coli bacterium experiment, Lizards on Croatian islands Pod Mrcaru and Pod Kopiste, Direct speciation of salmon in Canada. You have lots of it! But first you need to understand what is says!!!! Read multiple definitions and studies of this process.
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 lol, what an excuse, because it's slow we can't see happening now. so is it slow and then instantly happens so that we see it happen before our eyes? really if it slow then we'd see the slow changes happening. Lizards would still be gaining feathers or fur somehow. As for the tail bone.... it's to make it easier to use this thing we call a toilet. it's not useless.
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 As for fighting science, i fight for science, yet against evolution. You wanna believe it then fine, you have the freewill to believe what you want. Yet mixing religion into science and saying it's science, is a load of bull. I never said the Bible is science, though it does contain some scientific truths, i only said i know it as truth. Yet you claim that science and evolution is one. So answer, if evolution is real, starting with this what was before the big bang?
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg Wrong! Absolutely wrong! Scientific theories, laws and facts are objective empirical information. If it doesn't pass falsification tests it does not belong to science. Just like pseudoscientific astrology, noetics, homeopathy, and intelligent design. Big bang? Darwinian biological evolution has NOTHING to do with big bang theory!!!! It describes the origin of species, not the universe! This is not a valid argument. Again you show you don't understand what you're criticizing at all!
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 wow, this response has NOTHING to do with with anything in the comment. So i'm wrong that you don't have the right to believe what you want? Believe in fairies and who can stop you? you can't control what one believes. Wrong about evolution isn't science? well depends if you mean micro, macro or beginning of time. Only micro evolution is science, which you being tall or shorter would be macro evolution, along with eye color, skin tone, etc. Has nothing to do with new traits
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg Did you mine arguments from Kent Hovind's deceitful presentations or what? There are numerous other theories that describe the history of our universe. There is no such thing as macro or micro evolution, in scientific literature there's no term like that, I don't think so. You can't observe huge changes and division among populations, because it takes millions of years. When you observe it on a smaller scale you can apply it to a bigger.
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 your's? hmmm... weren't you the one complaining about someone not being smart because of typos, now you made many yourself? well i'm not here trying to criticize you, but just saying if you do criticize someone about something, don't make the same mistake yourself or you make yourself look more of a fool then him. Just some friendly advice... or just don't criticize it and you'll have to worry about it less
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg No it wasn't me... I never criticize anyone because of typos. We all make some. As long as I can read the basis of the comment, it's fine.
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 As for Kent Hovind, he is a pretty smart guy and is right on a number of things. Yes i got the TERMS themselves from him.... not the understanding. Understanding came long time before i ran across him, places like the dictionary, encyclopedia, biology book and so on. It's called common sense. You look at it and see the "evolution" changes that they have true recording of and i always thought that's not really evolving till i looked it up and saw the different kinds
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg Kent hovind is a clown and a silly manipulator. He absolutely doesn't look smart. If he is, then he just acts like he's so silly. He lies all the time. He claims that scientists say something, while it's absolutely not true. On top of that he can't even pay his own taxes. I hope he comes into his mind while in jail.
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 Now on a more important note, if evolution is really real and the changes happen on small scales, then what happens when you're half way between having wings and yet they not really there? do you just get stuck in doors, the fireman have to get you out and you basically die because of them and then have no way to spread the gene or what? Seriously, if it's a slow then we'd see in between stages, if it's fast then we'd see very noticeable changes, why then we see neither?
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg we see between stages. Humans are transitioning right now into different forms of life. Wings for instance were formed on birds (descendants of dinosaurs) when small raptor dinosaurs, growing feathered skin to keep themselves warm, developed increasingly larger pectorial muscles to flap their arms when hunting. Eventually after a long time some of them could glide. Then it turned out to be beneficial and they went on flying. Look up Sinosauropteryx,
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 Oh and DON't say.. a thick beak, change of skin tone, longer legs, bigger muscles, hair color, etc are examples. They're still legs, still eyes, still skin, still a beak, etc. It don't take a genius to see that changing a color of a house might make it look better but it'd still be the same exact house nor has it slowly started evolving into a boat. If you give someone a coloring page, not matter how they color it, it'd still be the same pic unless you draw something extra
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg dude, what bones do you think bird wings are composed of? They have the same structure: Humerus, Radius, Ulna and carpal bones... It just changed its function over time. From walking on ground to grasping things and attacking prey, to gliding, and then flying. You can never add something entirely extra, because it wouldn't work.
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg You cannot walk a mile unless you take one step at a time.
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 yet once you've walked the miles you'll see from where you were to were you are, the location you are will change, but the location you've been will stay the same nor it would have disappeared. To build a house you have to start somewhere as well, but the 2x4 are still 2x4 even though they make a frame then the house, you see it slow building up. So if evolution is slow, you'd see legs slowly somehow developing, you see the gradual change. Like feathers starting to develop
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg And what do you think evolution is about? The organisms don't change that much after speciating. You can still compare a large percentage of genetic similarities with other animals and even with humans. This is the most trustworthy evidence for common descent. It's all about adaptation to changing environments and speciating.
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 Now i know you'll saying nothing, so before nothing what was? What caused nothing to explode, and don't say physics or biology, because according to evolution NOTHING and NO ONE existed. Gravity, physics, biology is all something... So now lets take some science, matter can't be created or destroyed, according to that law it has to have always existed. So matter can't be made, yet it came from nothing? hmm, what about someone, let's say God, made matter exactly the way it is
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg Evolution =/= Big bang! again. Nobody says there was nothing. Only creationists think that everyone says that. It's not true. This video is about evolution, so why the hell do you put questions like: what was before the big bang? We don't know what was before that, because there was no time. But know this: Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, which means that all the energy was in a different form and nothingness never existed, but the energy was there for all eternity.
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 hmm... energy was there for all eternity? now how can you believe that yet say that God (can do anything) couldn't have been for all eternity be there has to be a beginning (well at least most evolutionist and atheist say this)? So if that is so according to the general evolutionist\atheist (they not always one and the same) energy has to have a beginning as well. And what about the matter? it can't be created or destroyed either.
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg well you can believe that the everpresent energy is God... that's also a view. But you have to understand that if you believe in evolution, it doesn't mean you have to be an atheist. As I said vast majority of christians believe it, because it's a fact and thinking people accept facts. You don't have to be completely godless. I'm not one. I believe the Universe, galaxies, time, space, multiverse... this is the god of existence. Not a personal one, however. I'm kind of a pantheist.
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg Now let me give you a little test question, to find out whether you actually know what you criticize:
Write me a short definition of the process of evolution! Explain how it works, mention important factors that drive this process.
I will then grade your answer like in school. Let's see how good you are.
And this applies to anyone who criticizes evolution: Write me a definition (no cheating) and if you get an F, you don't know it and should learn more and criticize less. :D enjoy
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago 2
@CreativeVisionary92 lol, might as well as a 3 yr old to give me a math test and say if he gives me an F then i don't know math. Yes i know the basics of evolution. But if i were to give you a short explanation of how it works i could give the wrong one because you might believe it a little bit different and say i'm completely wrong for there are easily 100 versions of how it exactly works. As for definition, do you mean mirco evolution, marco evolution, solar evolution, organic evolution, etc
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
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@ruzzdugg So you refuse... I see. Won't you even read anything about it on science pages?
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg there are no 100 versions ... organic evolution has one basis one definition. There are no differences in believing, just like every scientist takes the same kind of gravity theory into account. And I can examine your knowledge. If you want to criticize evolution, write me at least what it means! Just answer the question!
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 Okay, i'll tell you the VERY 1st version ,i was taught in public school. 1st there was nothing, not a thing. Somehow it explode creating matter and energy. The matter slowly evolved into a big rock with then became earth on which the matter somehow became alive and became bacteria, when then at some point became a fish, and so on. I know it's a bit butchered but i'm trying to cover just the basics. This is the original one i was taught then i learn many more.
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg this is not what science says. Again you were given wrong information and now you think evolution is stupid, abiogenesis is stupid, and big bang as well. You were not given access to the databasis of knowledge. If you want to hear a scientific opinion i can PM you the whole thing. Do you want to hear it?
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 sure, just send it in a message, i wanna hear your version of it. This is only the first of many of versions that i've heard, read, and watch... NOT ONE adds up. Especially hawking's explanation... so lets see what's different about your's. And i did say it was a butchered version just so i could cover the bases of the 3 different ones that were taught through out school.
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 The latest one i've read, by an evolutionist, is that all matter was compressed (where it came from i got no clue) and started spinning really fast (what\who caused the spin?) which then spun so fast that it exploded and now over billions of yrs (in high school they only said 2-3 million but looks like it wasn't enough time so more need to be added) became what we have now. The hardest thing to buy here is how does nonlive become alive when DNA needs a living cells to exist
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg no this is what Kent Hovind said he heard on his seminar. Again wrong. This shows that people don't know anything about it. Again, do you want to hear the true story?
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg actually it was the discovery channel, but okay...
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg these are all lies, though. Can you name, chapter and verse, where in the bible it says to wash your hands? (I can, and it has nothing to do with hygiene)
Can you cite a single source that there were chariots found in the "read (sic) sea"?
That is the problem with you fundies, you hear a statement, and decide whether it is true based solely on your beliefs, never caring for supporting evidence at all.
The part of the bible that forbade pork also forbade shellfish and shaving.
MisterDataJack 1 month ago
@MisterDataJack There's a number of them, so i can't name THE chapter and verse it's written. And it was a ritual i agree, yet you ever wonder why God put it in? There's a lot that talks about washing, after handling someone sick or dead. That because you have to wash the impurities, and God knew that so He told them to do so. As for the chariots, i don't have the resource in direct access, yet i even know the guy who found it was a rich atheist and wrote a book about it. He believes in God now.
ruzzdugg 1 month ago
@MisterDataJack Oh and that rich ex-atheist found the chariots trying to prove the Bible is wrong. As for forbidding saving, there probably was a reason for that as well, i haven't researched into that. And with all the projects and stuff going on right now, i've gotta go out of my way just to reply, as for finding the original sources, i'm too busy lately for that. I plan on posting up a blog that will have the sources and stuff, if i find the time to.
ruzzdugg 1 month ago
9@ruzzdugg creatures don't evolve (like your idiot fish on the shore) populations evolve. And some fish do have primitive lungs, like say, the lungfish.
The Big Bang:
1) has nothing to do with evolution;
2) does not state "nothing blew up";
3) was not preceded by anything in our time line;
4) is supported by lots of evidence;
5) is completed misunderstood and misrepresented by you (surprise!)
MisterDataJack 1 month ago
@MisterDataJack A)The Big Bang is what the science books taught me when i was in High school of how the world came to be and where the progress of evolution began. B0 The Big Bang back then taught that nothing blew up C)Which timeline then would it follow? For according to evolutionist, God had to follow a timeline too (when He's not bound by time) of which He created time. 4)evidence, as you call, have all been proven either false, taken with a basis of God out of the pic, twisted, etc
ruzzdugg 1 month ago
@MisterDataJack E) completed misunderstood make no sense at all, as for completely misunderstood... well i do understand how evolutionist twist everything when it's proven wrong. And how every piece of evidence never points to real change, yet to show even one gene\trait being added via true evidence. It takes a lot of faith to believe this bull. I'd buy humans coming from bears over monkeys\apes for i know what a skinned bear looks like. lot more human then a monkey
ruzzdugg 1 month ago
I do believe evolution happened. But some "FACTS" are just bullshit
RescwT 3 months ago
@RescwT We were never apes.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 No we are still primates. You, however, are the less intelligent variation, apparently.
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago 9
@CreativeVisionary92 No we are not. The way you are talking you sound like the less intelligent one. Nice try tho.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 any reason why you disagree with obvious facts, aside from the Bible? You don't have to denounce your faith in order to believe in scientific facts.
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 Its not scientific facts. Most of science is theory. Unless the scienctists saw an ape turn into a human then there are no facts only some bullshit theory.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29Scientific theories are derived from facts and nothing else. They are quanta of information that cannot be directly observed with human senses, just with other empirical methods. God! No one can see an ape turn into a human! It took almost 10 million years, and the evidence is, fossils, morphology, genetics. If you are a detective arriving on the crime scene, you don't just assume it didn't happen because nobody saw it! Eye witness evidence is unreliable! We examine the evidence.
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 What I meant is we examine the material evidence and the pattern reveals the past events. It's only logical!
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 LOL There's no logic in thinking we evolved from Apes. Idiocracy is more like it.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Oh, I see! You're a troll. Go find some life, you basement rat!
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 I'm not a troll. I speak the truth. We didn't evolve from apes. Are you really that stupid?
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 No I'm just not willing to continue in discussion with someone that isn't capable of presenting some tangible data or logical arguments, just repeating his statements and calling me stupid. On top of that, evolution is high school science. It's not that hard to understand.
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago 3
@CreativeVisionary92 High school science wasn't facts either. Science is theories. The only thing its good for is forensics and inventing shit.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 then how do you want to uncover reality? How do you want to understand it when you reject scientific thinking? Then ,I'm afraid, you're just a being with no concern of its own progress at all.
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 I love technology. I don't believe in the bullshit that we evolved from apes.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Yes, you're a consumer. I can see that. Unfortunately for your belief, there's tons of evidence for that. Over 80% gene similarity with chimps, 75% with gorillas and 60% with orangutans, we are a part of the primate family. On top of that there are hundreds of fossil skulls and bones found in the birthplace of our species - Africa. Australopithecus afarensis, homo habilis, homo ergaster, homo erectus... etc.
en.wikipedia org/wiki/Human_evolution
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 80%, well, how about lets take 20% the ocean's water and stick it in your pocket? i know it's a lot, but it's still ONLY 20%. Or how about you just give me 20% of your paycheck, because for you a 20% change is NOTHING. Yet did you know that many big company exist on 5% or less profit? Yet they can make billions? And 2% in a gene is a pretty big number. 20% is enormous. As for wiki, come on dude, that's only a good quick reference, not as a fact source.
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 and that pretty much settles our discussion, if you'll call it that, because I received no worthy contribution from you. Either you are smart enough to study the materials by yourself or you'll reject to do so and remain uneducated on this topic.
Here's some genetics: en.wikipedia org/wiki/Human_evolutionary_genetics
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 To each their own. Reading some crap still proves nothing. Like I said unless someone sees an ape turn human its all theories. Have a good day.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 *sigh* What alternative explanation do you have then for the origins of human race, and all organic species on planet Earth??? And the articles are not crap, I peer reviewed them with the official papers, they're real data.
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 You're still on this silly subject. Its theory not real anything. We were created as human. Even your evolution theory is bullshit. So you say were were ape (laugh) so what put any species here or the world for that matter in the first place?? LOL yeah ok ... I dont really care of the origin of man I care about the present.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 created by what? And if you don't care why bother to comment in such way?
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 Well you know a higher power. Some people recognize him as god lol I believe in God but I do believe the writings in the bible are mad written to try and control the greater population by making them believe if they do something wrong then they will burn for eternity after death. I commented because evolution is an idiotic idea. We aren't even like apes. I am not all furry and swing from trees and crave bananas. We dont look anything like them.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 It is not the specific behavior of wild primates that defines what species is primate and what isn't. Are we endothermic mammals? YES! Are we highly social creatures with increased cranial size and five fingers on all four limbs? YES! Do we have opposable thumbs? YES! Do we have two pectoral mammary glands? YES! Do we have a trend towards holding the torso in bipedalism? YES! Do we have stereoscopic multichromatic colorful vision? YES! The answers are obvious! Fact is a fact!
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 Still no fact. We are not and never have been apes. Still theory.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 God damn it! That's it! I showed you all necessary facts, yet you reject them and act like an idiot! You're not intelligent enough to be bothered with! You are ignorant and stubborn! I wish the world was less populated by people like you!
Good Day!
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 I am very intelligent thats why I know we were never apes. I wish the world didn't have idiot whom think we evolved from apes in it but hey I guess we need entertainment. There are no facts at all we were apes. Its all theories. Hince "Theory of Evolution".
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 *facepalm*
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago 7
@CreativeVisionary92 Facepalm?? What are you 2 years old? Now I know your arguements are invalid.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
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alundrin 2 months ago
"I am very intelligent thats why I know we were never apes" lol clearly indicates the fool u r... and btw its not a theory its a fact how about reading before trying to open ur mouth u dumb ape.
alundrin 2 months ago
@alundrin I'm not an ape. No humans were. Its a theory nothing more.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 Sort of like the theory of gravity.
rubhereforluck 2 months ago
@rubhereforluck Gravity is real unlike evolution.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 A theory that all scientists and all physical data agree on, that can be mathematically represented, observed, and influenced by humans, but other than that, it isn't real.
TheSH1N1GAM1 2 months ago
@TheSH1N1GAM1 Data can be tampered with and science is just theory.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 um that debunks everything, we might as well start throwing poo at eachother for entertainement. Wait a minute that is silly Science gives us TV and computers and a bunch of things that make that a very boring silly idea like other silly ideas.
CapQuacer 2 months ago
@CapQuacer Thats the one thing science is good for creating inventions. That and forensics.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 The Scientific method is the best way to destinguse between fantasy and reality. but it requires abilites you do not have. the abilty to say "i was wrong"
CapQuacer 2 months ago
@CapQuacer Can i ask u a question? Maths , do u know what Maths is? it is not natural science , it is Logical Science. Do u believe in Maths? because Math clearly says that their are dimensions which CAN NOT Be explained by Physics and chemistry and biology...... Do u believe in science then believe in this?
flexpape 2 months ago
@CapQuacer I'm not wrong.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
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@lovebigboobs29 Thank you for proving my point you do not have objectivity.
CapQuacer 2 months ago
@CapQuacer Well can't you see buddy, that this big boob lover loves science, i love science... yet evolution ISN'T science. Science is very very useful. yet not one profession uses evolution, not even a doctor. You don't stick a bacteria in someone and say, this will evolve the sickness away.... gravity, friction, biology (different then evolution), mechanics, etc is very useful. But something as fake as evolution has yet to find a use. You start with trying to evolve a hammer out of nothing.
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg evolution is used to cure sickness if you understand it. But you have to understand evolution states that all life evolves towards survive of the speicies. Virus's evolve to fight the immune system. That fact has spawned very cures.
CapQuacer 2 months ago
@CapQuacer oh you talking about adapting (mirco-evolution), yeah they do that, they adapt by losing certain traits so that part can't be attacked. yet you can't use it to make a healthy bacteria\virus that's evolve by adding new traits when some other virus comes in to attack. This is downhill "evolving", so it's still not using the actual evolution as in bacteria becoming fish, tadpoles or something. So that's still not evolving as in changing into something different or adding new genes\traits
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg Micro and Macro is the same thing. You do know science proved the Theory with DNA right. In or DNA are these "switches" that allow traits which we have evolved out to come back. If we had a better understanding of these switches you'd be able to make a human grow a tail or fur. Things we do not need so evolution removes them. Our biology also pans it out we have the remains of a tail in the "Tail bone" and snakes have remains of legs that evoloved out over time.
CapQuacer 2 months ago
@CapQuacer no, no, no.... snakes have bones to help mating, it's nothing to do with legs. And if those bones did prove they were legs, it's match the Bible that serpents had legs. But i don't think God left any leg bones but instead replaced them with bones that allow it to mate. As for the tail bone, it's the bone that makes sitting on the toilet more pleasant. i know evolutionist try to mix the 2 together so then they can "prove" their belief. Macro is addition of traits, micro is modification
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@CapQuacer So if just lower a car, there's really no major change. If i add a turbo or a body kit then i am changing the car. So if i grow an actual tail, not a slightly longer tailbone (mutations do happen), it's be macro. If i have get blue eyes and everyone else in my family has brown eye, it's just micro. The color genes were already there, i was just the one who got the blue. If i were to wake up with feathers on my back one day, then that'd be macro. They are NOT one and the same.
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg If you grew fethers that would not be evolution, that would be an act of god. that large of a change is not possible Macro is the long term affects of Micro. Understand all your possile growth was determined before you were born. To suggest that "evolutionist mix the two together" is silly, if the Theory of Evolution say they are the same they are the same in this thoery. What you mean is in your theory of evolution they are defined that way. But we are not talking about your version.
CapQuacer 2 months ago
@ruzzdugg the understanding of evolution is the soul principle of microbiology, virology, antibiotics, medicine in general. It has expanded our knowledge and allowed us to prevent often mistakes. Viruses evolve, that's why we need to know about it, so that we could develop better vaccines. Evolution is the soul principle of genetics,and that is important for innumerable cases in tissue transplantation and immunology in general. If we did not you wouldn't be alive and the world would not progress
CreativeVisionary92 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 you still talking about mirco evolution which really isn't evolving. It's like saying saying a 911 evolved to a carrera s4. You'd be right with the definition that it build on the idea but the 911 didn't sit around and become a carrera s4. Same thing with genetics, yes it's effects small things like height, eye color, skin tone, everything when it comes to looks. Some ppl are even born without hands, yet one single animal or person is yet to be born with a new gene\trait
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@CreativeVisionary92 so to say that a virus evolving by eliminating traits to make it less attack-able would be the same thing as cutting of you hand to keep an effection from spreading. You're still the same human with a missing hand. So is that virus the same virus with missing or moved around traits in order to created defenses. It's being mr. potatohead. That don't at all lead to some kind of new life from; it don't grow eyes, ears, fear, lungs, etc. So it's not a new virus, just modified.
ruzzdugg 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 My god you're an idiot. Don't believe in evolution, look at your tailbone. Read a book, and shut your over opinionated mouth. Look up the hominin family tree.
JoshuaFVrooman 2 months ago
@JoshuaFVrooman Wow I have an ass I must be an ape. ROFL anyways I am not in a family tree with animals.
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 I didn't say ass, idiot. I said tailbone, now go away, ignorant little troll. I don't want to talk to your type.
JoshuaFVrooman 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29 There are four times more historians that reject the holocaust than those that reject evolution. Food for thought.
Gravity is just a theory, so I guess it isn't real either, idiot.
JoshuaFVrooman 2 months ago
@JoshuaFVrooman Why the fuck do I care what historians think. I am my own person and can think for myself without some dumb fucks talking about evolution. Gravity is real or we would be floating. Nice try tho. If your an ape go swing from a tree and eat a banana dumbass. God people whom believe in evolution are total dumb fucks.
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