Despite your description saying that less knowledgable Trekkies flame I have got to say, the idea is sound but for the love of god, put textures on it :)
Sovereign class not just only didn't have saucer separation but also even if such system was available in this class it'd render the primary hull immobile ( Impulse engines were in the sauser section ).
Actually... I meant nacelles.. I was listening to an interview on Trekradio with Rick Sternbach where he stated that NCC-1701-E not only has the ability (like other starships) to eject the warp core, but also the nacelles.. this protects the ship against plasma stream explosions.
The Sovereign Class did not have saucer separation capability. But employed warp nacelle ejection and more escape pods for emergency evac during a core breach. No battle bridge-type scenario either.
@NilChoudhury The defiant class is a saucer, with the bridge at the centre.
Also the term "freak of nature" doesn't apply to artificial devices. You can design them however you like, and one design will be no more a freak than another.
intrepid and sovereign class ships had a feature called Captain's Yacht (though apparently not present in Voyager, either that or they just plain forgot it and decided on using their endless supply of shuttle craft and building the delta flying) but the idea of it having a saucer separation is just ludicrous!!! i mean brrurufffff...ugh...sry, i just puked a lil in my mouth....
The Sovereign clearly has a separation line, but it was never seen separating so I had to make it separate myself. Voyager did not have an obvious separation line, so I'd agree that it can't separate. Also, what does having a captains yacht have to do with separating? Even the galaxy has a captains yacht.
I would advise against attempting to make logical connections where there aren't any. It seems to be having an adverse affect on your stomach.
@Nojaru imagine this, u start with a federation ship, sovereign class, then from that ship u have another ship form from the saucer section, and then from that saucer section u have an even smaller vessel, the captain's yacht, and yet again in some of the cargo bays they have additional shuttle craft, probably runabout class capable of full warp travel armed with weapons and shields of their own...... *bleh*, federation matryoshka dolls.......
Still don't see the problem. Each of these things have separate functions, and I'm not sure how smaller shuttles relate to the captains yacht in a matryoshka doll fashion.
now imagine that sovereign class shove in that huge gap in the d'deridex class war bird, which in turn is shoved into a borg cube which is then shoved into the voth city ship which in turn lies deeply embedded on a stand of hair on zach galifianakis' beard......just mind boggling....wait what was i talking about?
I Think the Visible Main Impulse Engines would stay with the Enginering Section after Saucer Separation. Extra Impulse Engines would be Located under the Saucer's Shutle Deck so it has it's own Propulsion. The Vestible at the top and Fore Section of the Engineering Section would have a Blast Plate at the Front to handle the Exhaust Fire of the Saucer's Impulse Engines. The Vestibule would have it's own Impulse Engines & be Loaded with Warheads so it can be Launched off to Attack the Borg.
I believe those triangles on the bottom of the saucers of both the Sovereign and the Constitution are landing gear. I read somewhere that this was the intention for at least the Constitution. Those triangles on the Constitution would angle downward and the neck would serve as the third landing pad, with a door on the bottom and the front of the neck. I would guess a third landing pad is hidden above the stardrive section for the Sovereign.
The designs for the E-E separating can be seen in the production art. I guess the production team never thought about the lack of impulse engines on the Stardrive Section ^^;
@spectre0075 My guess was five years, then again who knows how long it really would have went, but your opinion that it could have went 8 years sounds so cool! Maybe there is an alternate reality out there that T.O.S. could have went longer and they didn't need to do the animated series.
@spectre0075 Thanks for telling me, It would be so cool to see that in the Original series if the show wasn't canceled. By the way how long do you think that the series would have lasted if it wasn't canceled including the first 3 years of course.
Given the saucer, and secondary hull designs of most cruisers, it would only seem logical that this would necessitate some sort of separation procedure. Given the designs of other vessels, the surface area of a Starfleet vessel is not well served without having this functionality. A primary hull, of comparable volume could be created without need for such high surface area, which means that shield emitters would have better fields of overlap in a more integrated design. It's all about intention.
"Saucer separation" is not a regular function of this class ship, but it is an emergency function in most ships with an "engineering hull". Only the Galaxy-class and Prometheus-class, to my knowledge, can separate as needed and reintegrate.
@legoguy8114 No, it can't. Ever since the Enterprise-D (and especially after the Prometheus), a lot of people seem to be under the impression that every Starfleet vessel and separate into two or more parts. While I will admit that just because we haven't seen it on screen doesn't mean it's not true, it also doesn't make it true.
@legoguy8114 The Enterprise-D could separate because it was just so massive that it would make sense, especially as an escape option should the warp core blow. The Prometheus was a tactical vessel, and so being able to separate was a logical tactical advantage. So as I said in the beginning, no, the Excelsior-class saucer can not separate. (Sorry for the double post, Youtube cut my first post off)
I have never seen a sovereign class vessel do the saucer separation procedure, I assume in the event of a warp core breach there would be some kind of core ejection system like with the intrepid class vessels.
@katakisLives Unlike with the Ent-D, the Saucer Seperation for a Sovereign class was never intended to be re-useable, use it to get the bulk of the crew away from the damaged secondary hull
I think officially, it can't separate, but the exterior was modelled as if it could. The separation lines are visible on the movie model, that's how I knew where to put it on mine.
@Nojaru According to John Eaves, who designed the ship, showed how in Star Trek Magazine how the Sovereign class can separate, and strangely enough, here is basically how it's done.
@Nojaru It was designed into the ship by John Eaves, exactly where you separated the sections. It was never shown, but included just in case it came up.
@Mojaru -It probably could, even though it was never shown for this class starship. The Galaxy Class prior to this class had this feature, so most likely it was probably upgraded and made commonplace for all classes after the "Galaxy Class". It would make sense because this is only used as a "emergency catastrophic measure".
The Sovereign class can't seperate, i've seen the studio designs, and safe to say, it was intended to have saucer sep, but they doesn't want any annotations of Galaxy.
Plus, they don't want annotations of Voyager, earlier design of a Sovereign do have variable warp geometry.
For the sovereign class' separation procedure (for combat at least), I think it would make more sense for the arrowhead shaped section (as seen on the underside from 0:17 to 0:34) to remain behind to give the stardrive section the main impulse engines and a surface for dorsal phaser arrays. The saucer, would either move via thrusters or smaller impulse engines concealed in the join between the two segments. (though there does not appear to be a seam on the dorsal surface that would allow this)
i would of loved to see the enterprise seprerate but unfortulately the redesign in Nemesis makes that impossible. They added some cowlin that extends from either side of the shuttle bay area down to the secondary hull and i dont think there is a break in it where a seperation plane would be. There again i dont agree with all the modifications they did on the E for nemesis, like the new torp launchers where the hell where the torps stored? 5/5 tho for the vid
if you look close enough, at the film model, there's a separation line running right through the cowling, and if you look closely enough at my model, you'll notice that I used the version with cowling too.
@Nojaru so you did i do apologise lol, still not sure why they put the cowling on tbh it did not need it and all them extra weapons where totally un called for too.
There is a book called 'Star trek Resistance' in which the enterprise e fights the borg and after taking serious damage to the saucer, she seperates. The realness that this could happen is taken awy almost immeadietly when they {sigh} cloak the stardrive section. :P
It would look weird because the designers flatted and stretched the enterprise so much that it didn't look like there was any room 4 impulse engine(s) on the drive section.
Some st fans created an addon 4 the bridge commander vidoe game and added xtra impulse engines ya no what, it looks pretty good and on more weirder that the way the enterprise J looks. Now that is an xtremely flattened/stretched ship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Sovereign doesn't have impulse engines on the stardrive section like the Galaxy. It could still have saucer seperation capability, but as a last resort like the previous starships like the Constitution, Excelsior, or Ambassoder. The Galaxy/Nebula classes were the first classes where the seperation could be done easily and easily reattached. Before it would have taken a trip to spacedock to reattach the 2 sections.
Those books aren't technically canon. When they do it in the books is it for a warp core breach or for attack? It doesn't make sense for them to do it for attack due to the stardrive section's lack of impulse engines.
Where this shows it seperating is exactly where i thought it would if it had that capability, i wish i could design new ships for star trek or for just people on here to see, i have so many in my head and i am a rubbish drawer so i cant put them to paper even though i try lol, although i did manage one lol!!!
actualy those red squares are actualy called impulse drive units the impulse engine i belive was a part on the stardrive but as u said the sovie dose not have any of those same for the constitution class except without the battle bridge.
Actually, now that you mention it...the Sov-class doesn't have Impulse Engines for its stardrive section. Hmmm... that's not overly effective. Thrusters only in a battle situation -- rather poor.
lolz any ship that is saucer seperation cappeable actualy can do it :) the only thing to make it possible is a battle bridge which i think that was also the only thing that the constitution class also missed.
the constitution's saucer seperation was soley for the purpose of useing the saucer as a lifeboat. so having a battle bridge is no big deal. in the origanal script for Star Trek: the motion picture at the end when the V'Ger entity vanishes, the 3 Klingon ships it captured at the beginning of the film are released. & they attack the enterprise. enterprise is badly damaged & kirk seperates the sip & counter attacks with the saucer.
heheh i pretty much agree. Just like in a particular TNG Epp were they double teamed on a borg cube both with the saucer and star drive sections of the big D
It's a fictional vehicle. So it is what you make of it. But as I understand, the whole concept of having a saucer and engineering section is that they be separable modules... at least with a ship large enough to handle it. And, just because it wasn't shown on film, doesn't mean it can't do it. Besides, the separation lines are clearly visible on the movie models.
Ordinarily I would agree. Unfortunately, that isn't how the model was built. The separation line is clearly visible going forward and around the quantum torpedo launcher. But it doesn't really matter... the saucer still has three photon launchers.
I'm not sure. There doesn't seem to be any visible impulse engines on the engineering hull, but that doesn't mean they're not there. They could be retractible, similar to the Delta Flyer.
Thats really good. Would of been really good to have seen it in one of the films. In one of the latest star trek books I think it was redemption, the first officer, commander work ordered a ship seperation of the enterprise. He was in command of the auxillary bridge as it was pointed out in the book. Very good though, great model.
Könnte durchaus sein dass die Sternenflotte in einer neuen Generation der "Sovereign"-Klasse" eine solche Seperation einführt. Bei der "alten" gibt es eine solche jedoch nicht. Was ich mir gut vorstellen kann ist eine modifizierte "Sovereign"-Klasse mit Quantumphasern und Chroniton Torpedos. Ebenso eine Ablativ-Panzerungs-Hülle sowie die in deinem Video gezeigte Seperation der Untertassen-Sektion. // 5/5 fürs Video :-)
Dies ist der gleich Sovereign Klasse von Star Trek Nemesis, nur mehr einfach. Man kann der separation-linie in der film sehen. Dass wir haben es nicht sehen bedeutet nicht dass er kannt es nicht machen. Entschuldigung, mein Deutsch ist schlecht.
Very nice just the way it should seperate. The ship is obviously capable of saucer seperating (as the seperation lines are there, and there is a battle bridge seen in the MSD)
as well as the retractible impulse engines. I'd also like to try to extend the saucer's landing gear (those trangle things... I assume there's a third hiding in the separation plane.)
Oops, sorry. I deleted your post by accident trying to delete mine. I haven't actually seen the separation plane anywhere, but the separation line is quite visible on the Nemesis model. The modle from Nemesis is actually much different from the one in First Contact and Insurrection.
Despite your description saying that less knowledgable Trekkies flame I have got to say, the idea is sound but for the love of god, put textures on it :)
DarkMalfunction 2 months ago
@DarkMalfunction
I rightfully hang my head in shame :(
Nojaru 2 months ago
Sovereign class not just only didn't have saucer separation but also even if such system was available in this class it'd render the primary hull immobile ( Impulse engines were in the sauser section ).
MIMALECKIPL 5 months ago
Actually... I meant nacelles.. I was listening to an interview on Trekradio with Rick Sternbach where he stated that NCC-1701-E not only has the ability (like other starships) to eject the warp core, but also the nacelles.. this protects the ship against plasma stream explosions.
nickbrec 5 months ago
The Sovereign Class did not have saucer separation capability. But employed warp nacelle ejection and more escape pods for emergency evac during a core breach. No battle bridge-type scenario either.
nickbrec 5 months ago
@nickbrec
I'm sure you meant warp core, rather than nacelle.
Nojaru 5 months ago
...you remind me of data before star trek generation...btw, the clown can stay, but the Ferengi in the gorilla suit has to go.. ;)
NilChoudhury 6 months ago
whoa, i just thought of a mind-f#ck. Everyone, imagine a defiant class ship....WITH A SAUCER......mutated freak of nature is an understatement, no?
NilChoudhury 6 months ago
@NilChoudhury The defiant class is a saucer, with the bridge at the centre.
Also the term "freak of nature" doesn't apply to artificial devices. You can design them however you like, and one design will be no more a freak than another.
Nojaru 6 months ago 2
intrepid and sovereign class ships had a feature called Captain's Yacht (though apparently not present in Voyager, either that or they just plain forgot it and decided on using their endless supply of shuttle craft and building the delta flying) but the idea of it having a saucer separation is just ludicrous!!! i mean brrurufffff...ugh...sry, i just puked a lil in my mouth....
NilChoudhury 6 months ago
@NilChoudhury
The Sovereign clearly has a separation line, but it was never seen separating so I had to make it separate myself. Voyager did not have an obvious separation line, so I'd agree that it can't separate. Also, what does having a captains yacht have to do with separating? Even the galaxy has a captains yacht.
I would advise against attempting to make logical connections where there aren't any. It seems to be having an adverse affect on your stomach.
Nojaru 6 months ago
@Nojaru imagine this, u start with a federation ship, sovereign class, then from that ship u have another ship form from the saucer section, and then from that saucer section u have an even smaller vessel, the captain's yacht, and yet again in some of the cargo bays they have additional shuttle craft, probably runabout class capable of full warp travel armed with weapons and shields of their own...... *bleh*, federation matryoshka dolls.......
NilChoudhury 6 months ago
@NilChoudhury
Still don't see the problem. Each of these things have separate functions, and I'm not sure how smaller shuttles relate to the captains yacht in a matryoshka doll fashion.
Nojaru 6 months ago
now imagine that sovereign class shove in that huge gap in the d'deridex class war bird, which in turn is shoved into a borg cube which is then shoved into the voth city ship which in turn lies deeply embedded on a stand of hair on zach galifianakis' beard......just mind boggling....wait what was i talking about?
NilChoudhury 6 months ago
@NilChoudhury
I dunno, but it sounds pretty cool to me.
Nojaru 6 months ago
I Think the Visible Main Impulse Engines would stay with the Enginering Section after Saucer Separation. Extra Impulse Engines would be Located under the Saucer's Shutle Deck so it has it's own Propulsion. The Vestible at the top and Fore Section of the Engineering Section would have a Blast Plate at the Front to handle the Exhaust Fire of the Saucer's Impulse Engines. The Vestibule would have it's own Impulse Engines & be Loaded with Warheads so it can be Launched off to Attack the Borg.
Roadracer987654321 7 months ago
this is just about the most ridiculous thing i have ever seen
Ransty101 9 months ago
@Ransty101 Why?
Nojaru 9 months ago
@113742651
I believe those triangles on the bottom of the saucers of both the Sovereign and the Constitution are landing gear. I read somewhere that this was the intention for at least the Constitution. Those triangles on the Constitution would angle downward and the neck would serve as the third landing pad, with a door on the bottom and the front of the neck. I would guess a third landing pad is hidden above the stardrive section for the Sovereign.
Nojaru 9 months ago
The designs for the E-E separating can be seen in the production art. I guess the production team never thought about the lack of impulse engines on the Stardrive Section ^^;
donkeytacos 10 months ago
@spectre0075 My guess was five years, then again who knows how long it really would have went, but your opinion that it could have went 8 years sounds so cool! Maybe there is an alternate reality out there that T.O.S. could have went longer and they didn't need to do the animated series.
michaelhviper 11 months ago
@spectre0075 Thanks for telling me, It would be so cool to see that in the Original series if the show wasn't canceled. By the way how long do you think that the series would have lasted if it wasn't canceled including the first 3 years of course.
michaelhviper 11 months ago
That's pretty sweet, she even looks badass when seperated.
Kirydragon 11 months ago
Given the saucer, and secondary hull designs of most cruisers, it would only seem logical that this would necessitate some sort of separation procedure. Given the designs of other vessels, the surface area of a Starfleet vessel is not well served without having this functionality. A primary hull, of comparable volume could be created without need for such high surface area, which means that shield emitters would have better fields of overlap in a more integrated design. It's all about intention.
ninerdanish 1 year ago
The Sovereign class was designed with saucer separation in mind by the designer, it was simply never shown on screen. I could connect again as well.
stareagle11 1 year ago
"Saucer separation" is not a regular function of this class ship, but it is an emergency function in most ships with an "engineering hull". Only the Galaxy-class and Prometheus-class, to my knowledge, can separate as needed and reintegrate.
DocWolph 1 year ago
My friend says the Enterprise B can seperate and i was like wha. does anyone know if this is true
legoguy8114 1 year ago
@legoguy8114 No, it can't. Ever since the Enterprise-D (and especially after the Prometheus), a lot of people seem to be under the impression that every Starfleet vessel and separate into two or more parts. While I will admit that just because we haven't seen it on screen doesn't mean it's not true, it also doesn't make it true.
baalthegreat 1 year ago
@legoguy8114 The Enterprise-D could separate because it was just so massive that it would make sense, especially as an escape option should the warp core blow. The Prometheus was a tactical vessel, and so being able to separate was a logical tactical advantage. So as I said in the beginning, no, the Excelsior-class saucer can not separate. (Sorry for the double post, Youtube cut my first post off)
baalthegreat 1 year ago
I have never seen a sovereign class vessel do the saucer separation procedure, I assume in the event of a warp core breach there would be some kind of core ejection system like with the intrepid class vessels.
katakisLives 1 year ago
@katakisLives It can eject the core. This procedure was shown in the movie, "Star Trek Insurrection."
Nojaru 1 year ago 4
@katakisLives Unlike with the Ent-D, the Saucer Seperation for a Sovereign class was never intended to be re-useable, use it to get the bulk of the crew away from the damaged secondary hull
TorKelRa 1 year ago
@katakisLives that is true but if they redesign the Sovereign-Class then the saucer could seperate it is a possibilty but unlikley though
englishdragon88 6 months ago
does the SOVEREIGN class really have a saucer seper or is that just fan fiction? But it is cool.
michaelhviper 1 year ago 2
@michaelhviper
I think officially, it can't separate, but the exterior was modelled as if it could. The separation lines are visible on the movie model, that's how I knew where to put it on mine.
Nojaru 1 year ago
@Nojaru memory-alpha's article has it as the next to last point on the apocrpha.
staven512 1 year ago
@Nojaru According to John Eaves, who designed the ship, showed how in Star Trek Magazine how the Sovereign class can separate, and strangely enough, here is basically how it's done.
Potrimpo 1 year ago
@Nojaru It was designed into the ship by John Eaves, exactly where you separated the sections. It was never shown, but included just in case it came up.
OrokaSempai 1 year ago
@Mojaru -It probably could, even though it was never shown for this class starship. The Galaxy Class prior to this class had this feature, so most likely it was probably upgraded and made commonplace for all classes after the "Galaxy Class". It would make sense because this is only used as a "emergency catastrophic measure".
VirgilB01 1 year ago
@Nojaru officially it can separate but it was never shown in the movies.
littlejohn0119 11 months ago
@Nojaru actually it can. they just never showed it in the movies.
littlejohn0119 9 months ago
Nice
rcredit 1 year ago
The Sovereign class can't seperate, i've seen the studio designs, and safe to say, it was intended to have saucer sep, but they doesn't want any annotations of Galaxy.
Plus, they don't want annotations of Voyager, earlier design of a Sovereign do have variable warp geometry.
DazhFX 1 year ago
For the sovereign class' separation procedure (for combat at least), I think it would make more sense for the arrowhead shaped section (as seen on the underside from 0:17 to 0:34) to remain behind to give the stardrive section the main impulse engines and a surface for dorsal phaser arrays. The saucer, would either move via thrusters or smaller impulse engines concealed in the join between the two segments. (though there does not appear to be a seam on the dorsal surface that would allow this)
AnanziP1 1 year ago
I recently did a still image on my deviantArt page of this very thing, and got some interesting comments as well.
archangel72367 1 year ago
i would of loved to see the enterprise seprerate but unfortulately the redesign in Nemesis makes that impossible. They added some cowlin that extends from either side of the shuttle bay area down to the secondary hull and i dont think there is a break in it where a seperation plane would be. There again i dont agree with all the modifications they did on the E for nemesis, like the new torp launchers where the hell where the torps stored? 5/5 tho for the vid
Wharding85 1 year ago
@Wharding85
if you look close enough, at the film model, there's a separation line running right through the cowling, and if you look closely enough at my model, you'll notice that I used the version with cowling too.
Nojaru 1 year ago
@Nojaru so you did i do apologise lol, still not sure why they put the cowling on tbh it did not need it and all them extra weapons where totally un called for too.
Wharding85 1 year ago
If you look on the bottom of the back, it actually does have impulse engines.
parrot998 2 years ago
I noticed that the quantum torpedo launcher is part of the stardrive section
MacUser135 2 years ago
There is a book called 'Star trek Resistance' in which the enterprise e fights the borg and after taking serious damage to the saucer, she seperates. The realness that this could happen is taken awy almost immeadietly when they {sigh} cloak the stardrive section. :P
Jackw2492 2 years ago
It would look weird because the designers flatted and stretched the enterprise so much that it didn't look like there was any room 4 impulse engine(s) on the drive section.
Some st fans created an addon 4 the bridge commander vidoe game and added xtra impulse engines ya no what, it looks pretty good and on more weirder that the way the enterprise J looks. Now that is an xtremely flattened/stretched ship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
asuch874 2 years ago
What's the Sovereign's armaments,speed and shield capabilities ?
darkgodnaar 2 years ago
The E can't separate, starfleet didn't install enough impulse engines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
asuch874 2 years ago
Could be an emergency feature
Nojaru 2 years ago
@Nojaru True, the original Constitution-class had saucer separation as an emergency feature.
akakryd 1 year ago
Didn't realize a hypothetical illustration deserved so many exclamation marks.
Nojaru 2 years ago 5
The lower half of that ship wouldn't be able to fly anywhere on its own. It's better if the sections stay docked.
droidekabakugan1986 2 years ago
Not if your warp core is about to blow. ;)
Nojaru 2 years ago
The saucer has impulse engines. And in the refit after Nemesis, the secondary hull was fitted with impulse as well.
lrossi888 2 years ago
if it worked well with the galaxy, why didnt they install it into the sovregien?
GameBoyTM101 2 years ago
The Sovereign doesn't have impulse engines on the stardrive section like the Galaxy. It could still have saucer seperation capability, but as a last resort like the previous starships like the Constitution, Excelsior, or Ambassoder. The Galaxy/Nebula classes were the first classes where the seperation could be done easily and easily reattached. Before it would have taken a trip to spacedock to reattach the 2 sections.
phoenix1985 2 years ago
but in the books that take place after the nemesis incident, they do separate the saucer
brendanaggs 2 years ago
Those books aren't technically canon. When they do it in the books is it for a warp core breach or for attack? It doesn't make sense for them to do it for attack due to the stardrive section's lack of impulse engines.
phoenix1985 2 years ago
Where this shows it seperating is exactly where i thought it would if it had that capability, i wish i could design new ships for star trek or for just people on here to see, i have so many in my head and i am a rubbish drawer so i cant put them to paper even though i try lol, although i did manage one lol!!!
CHRISTINKER86 2 years ago
yes i swear he was production designer for like 20 years
2muskatires 2 years ago
HERMAN ZIMMERMAN IS MY GRANDPA
2muskatires 2 years ago
are u serious
MrCoMpUtErNeRd123456 2 years ago
The Constitution had a seperation line. But no Battle Bridge, and no Impulse engines save on the back of the Saucer.
Books are non-canon as they also give the Galaxy Class 46 individual weapon systems.
And the Sovie doesn't have any Impulse Engines below the seperation plane.
darkangel31314 2 years ago
actualy those red squares are actualy called impulse drive units the impulse engine i belive was a part on the stardrive but as u said the sovie dose not have any of those same for the constitution class except without the battle bridge.
FLAME4564 2 years ago
Actually, now that you mention it...the Sov-class doesn't have Impulse Engines for its stardrive section. Hmmm... that's not overly effective. Thrusters only in a battle situation -- rather poor.
RyJ 2 years ago
Could only really be used in a warp-core breach situation.
phoenix1985 2 years ago
lolz any ship that is saucer seperation cappeable actualy can do it :) the only thing to make it possible is a battle bridge which i think that was also the only thing that the constitution class also missed.
FLAME4564 2 years ago
the constitution's saucer seperation was soley for the purpose of useing the saucer as a lifeboat. so having a battle bridge is no big deal. in the origanal script for Star Trek: the motion picture at the end when the V'Ger entity vanishes, the 3 Klingon ships it captured at the beginning of the film are released. & they attack the enterprise. enterprise is badly damaged & kirk seperates the sip & counter attacks with the saucer.
kdraper2007 2 years ago
heheh i pretty much agree. Just like in a particular TNG Epp were they double teamed on a borg cube both with the saucer and star drive sections of the big D
FLAME4564 2 years ago
Wait a second... THE SAUCER HAD NO IMPULSE ENGINES!!!!!!!
GameBoyTM101 2 years ago
yes, the constitution class saucer has impuse engines, it was the secondary hull that had no impuse engines.
kdraper2007 2 years ago
Saucer does, stardrive doesnt.
phoenix1985 2 years ago
This ship isn't capable seperation.
Like much of the design it was an incomplete feature.
saquist 2 years ago
It's a fictional vehicle. So it is what you make of it. But as I understand, the whole concept of having a saucer and engineering section is that they be separable modules... at least with a ship large enough to handle it. And, just because it wasn't shown on film, doesn't mean it can't do it. Besides, the separation lines are clearly visible on the movie models.
Nojaru 2 years ago
I like it but you seperateing it from the torpedo launcher u should at least leave that.
spez1989 2 years ago
Ordinarily I would agree. Unfortunately, that isn't how the model was built. The separation line is clearly visible going forward and around the quantum torpedo launcher. But it doesn't really matter... the saucer still has three photon launchers.
Nojaru 2 years ago
do you think that like the galaxy class it has a battle bridge.
spez1989 2 years ago
I'm not sure. There doesn't seem to be any visible impulse engines on the engineering hull, but that doesn't mean they're not there. They could be retractible, similar to the Delta Flyer.
Nojaru 2 years ago
HOLD UP! It is a feature. Read the book entitled "Ship of the Line".
MIDIacefro 2 years ago
Thats really good. Would of been really good to have seen it in one of the films. In one of the latest star trek books I think it was redemption, the first officer, commander work ordered a ship seperation of the enterprise. He was in command of the auxillary bridge as it was pointed out in the book. Very good though, great model.
Dan2000T 2 years ago
Könnte durchaus sein dass die Sternenflotte in einer neuen Generation der "Sovereign"-Klasse" eine solche Seperation einführt. Bei der "alten" gibt es eine solche jedoch nicht. Was ich mir gut vorstellen kann ist eine modifizierte "Sovereign"-Klasse mit Quantumphasern und Chroniton Torpedos. Ebenso eine Ablativ-Panzerungs-Hülle sowie die in deinem Video gezeigte Seperation der Untertassen-Sektion. // 5/5 fürs Video :-)
xXPremonitionXx 2 years ago
Dies ist der gleich Sovereign Klasse von Star Trek Nemesis, nur mehr einfach. Man kann der separation-linie in der film sehen. Dass wir haben es nicht sehen bedeutet nicht dass er kannt es nicht machen. Entschuldigung, mein Deutsch ist schlecht.
Nojaru 2 years ago
Very nice just the way it should seperate. The ship is obviously capable of saucer seperating (as the seperation lines are there, and there is a battle bridge seen in the MSD)
SoCalCoaster521 2 years ago
ALL RIGHT! Now you just need to add the battle bridge details.
MIDIacefro 3 years ago
as well as the retractible impulse engines. I'd also like to try to extend the saucer's landing gear (those trangle things... I assume there's a third hiding in the separation plane.)
Nojaru 3 years ago
Oops, sorry. I deleted your post by accident trying to delete mine. I haven't actually seen the separation plane anywhere, but the separation line is quite visible on the Nemesis model. The modle from Nemesis is actually much different from the one in First Contact and Insurrection.
Nojaru 3 years ago