The mayavadis/impersonalists ultimate goal is to merge with their formless God(attaining mukti), in spite of Krsna's revelations in the Bhagavat Gita that He is the Supreme Personality Of Godhead. This concept is simply an extension of the material idea.
In the material world, everyone is trying to be the topmost head man amongst all his fellow men or neighbors. Either communally, socially or nationally, everyone is competing to be greater than all others, in the material concept of life. This greatness can be extended to the unlimited, so that one actually wants to become one with the greatest of all, the Supreme Lord. This is also a material concept, although maybe a little more advanced.
@jackandcodi Vivekananda was always proud of what he never practiced. He never came to the conclusion that Bhakti is topmost. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is demonstrating knowledgeable bhakti as per shastra. Vivekananda was a good person but his practice is not sufficient to attain the highest goal of relieving a suffering soul from the clutches of repeated birth and death and Maya.
@blackiyersubrax Atleast refer to him as Swami Vivekananda,and as far as SwamiJi not realizing that Bhakti is supreme please read the book PremYog piblished by the math .& secondly bhai , jackandchodi is requesting the uploader to upload the bengali movie on Swami Vivekanand as well , and here you are telling him that Swamiji's views were faulty...C'mon , dosent SwamiJI deserve even this much respect that we can watch a movie made on him in peace and without any sort of comment
@Galavya41 Vivekanand never knew that vedais ca sarvair aham eve vedhyah... i.e. the purpose of knowing Vedas is Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He is talking like Sarvabhauma Bhattacharya. He is sidelining the speaker of the Gita clearly who is Krishna whom Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is worshipping. Vivekananda accepts that God is within but he does not know that Krishna is God. If you do not know Krishna, you do not know God. If you do not know God, you cannot love him
@blackiyersubrax Sir all I mentioned that we can show respect to SwamiJi, thats all . He was the first to take Sanatan Dharma to the west , and he was the first who gave a fitting answer to all those missionaries who wanted to convert entire India by spreading Lies about the Vedas and our Rishis. You might believe in the Gaudia Vaishnav Siddhanta but that does not mean we cant show respect to a sanyasi ,and that too a true sanyasi like vivekananda
@Galavya41 A devotee of the Supreme Lord Krishna respects even an ant's life knowing it to be Krishna's property. Swami means one who has served the real owner of one's senses who is Hrishikesha by using his senses. This Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is demonstrating. So It is not befitting according to the Lord Himself, that Mr. Vivekananda be called a Swami. A person who plagiarises Krishna's philosophy to help people forget Him is not very respectable.
@Galavya41 Also compare the Narada Bhakti Sutra by Prabhavananda and His Divine Grace A.C. Bhakti Vedanta Swami Prabhupada. Everything will be clear. Real Bhakti speaks for itself.
@Galavya41 Sanatana Dharma is the eternal duty of the soul, which is to serve the Supreme Lord Sri Krishna. A soul that does not do this is like a screw out of a machine.. useless. So what did Vivekananda take to the West ?
@blackiyersubrax Sir I am Ramanuji Vaishnav and I dont think that SwamiJI as you put it ever plagiarized Krishna's philosophy to help people forget Him
@Galavya41 Very unfortunate. A humble request. Please read Bhagavad Gita As It Is by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada. It has the full parampara explanation of the Bhagavad Gita. If you are a Vaishnava, please appraise me of your spiritual master in one of the four Vaishnava Sampradayas. Anyone who is serving his own senses or of other people is not a Vaishnava. He is a Sudra. Definitely I am a Sudra. This discussion is only glorifying Krishna.
@blackiyersubrax Sir do you think its unfortunate that I follow the teachings of Viśiṣṭādvaita as purported by Bhagwan Ramanujacharya , or do you think its " UNFORTNATE" to respect an Adwaiti Monk like Swami Vivekanda..As far as reading of GeetaJi is concerned ...
@Galavya41 Why do you find Ramanujacharya taking Krishna's holy names 24 x 7? and why not Vivekananda. Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu accepted the teachings of Sri Ramanujacharya. Why did Vivekananda not take shelter of a Vaishnava Guru in the Sri Sampradaya? There is no comparison between Ramanujacharya and Vivekananda.
@blackiyersubrax ..And I am not even trying to make a comparison , as far as I am concerned not even God can be compared to my GuruDev and Sri Ramanuja , as only an acharya is the true friend of a jeeva and dosent rest until the sishya recieves the devine love for and of Shri Hari. I just respect VivekanandJi that's all.
@blackiyersubrax Sir let me assure that there is a huge amount of Ramanuji liturature avaliabla which includes GeetaJI &its bhashyas by various Acharyas and I have been in the process of understanding it by sitting near the feet of my GuruDev at SriRangam..
@Galavya41 Even in Gaudiya Vaishnav history there have been apasampradayas. Arjuna accepted what Krishna spoke but he asked the right questions. Both the teacher and master must glorify Krishna satisfactorily. Glorifying also means identifying the impersonalists like Vivekananda so that the innocent general populace is not misled. Advaita means there is none other comparable to Krishna. It means we are part and parcel of His inconceivable energy which is non-different from Him.
@blackiyersubrax My gurudev taught me thats its good to show respect to a monk even if the monk belonged to the Jain or Buddhist tradition( Swamiji is a lot closer) , pranam sab ko par bhakti ( upasana) ek Raghvendra ki.I see no harm in offering my Namaskaras to the Swami , even though I dont follow his teachings entirely.
@Galavya41 Lord Buddha is also Vishnu tattva. His mission was to rid people of the whimsical following of the Vedas. Being the Lord Himself, He had the authority to guide crazy people of those times to Himself. So Lord Buddha speaks of Sunyavada and rejects the Vedas. Even Jainism's roots lie in the Vedic culture and the purpose was the same.. to lead people away from the ritualistic following of Vedas.So Sankaracharya 's advent was to re-establish Vedas and eliminate Sunyavada.
@blackiyersubrax Sir being a Vaisnav dont you know I know all this alredy ,?. I very well know what SwamiJi taught and what the mayavadi siddhant is , I also know about Buddhist and Jain Philosophies but thasts not the question..all I am saying that its nice to show respect to even Jainis and Buddhist , and then VivekanandJi is a lot closer to us than the Jainis etc..
@Galavya41 Yes you can respect him as Krishna's marginal energy but not his philosophy. I also respect my neighbours, you, everybody, plants , trees , tiger, donkey.. but as Krishna's energy... but I don't bow down to them as somebody who will take us to Krishna. We should definitely bow down to the acharyas, guru and Krishna himself who teach us how to go back to Krishna and be happy in His service.
@blackiyersubrax I have already mentioned that I dont follow his teachings ..This argument is going nowhere, please continue doing what you feel is best..so sorry to have objected to your precious comments...so khsma from you..and a very heartfelt Jai Raghvendra .
@Galavya41 My intention was never to argue with you but to render the topmost service unto you and humanity which is glorifying the holy names of the Lord. Thank you for purifying me by giving me this opportunity.
@Galavya41 Only bhaktas are dear to Krishna. I am sure you are aware of this. So a person who is preacing Bhagavad Gita but not glorifying Krishna satisfactorily does not love Krishna. Is this difficult to understand. Why is Vivekanand closer to us than Jains?All these religions are meant to endear us to God is it not ? Jains are better when they say Krishna is not God. Vivekananda is holding B.G. in his hand and taking us away from the personality Krishna who is God.
@Galavya41 You are intelligent and that is why Krishna has given you an opportunity to be born in a Vaishnava family. We should be even more inquisitive and chant Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare every day or the Hari mantra your spiritual master in Ramanujacharya's disciplic succession has given you incessantly and make our lives sublime and not fall in the trap of you and I are God.
@Galavya41 However since people could not accept Sri Krishna immediately, He explained the Vedas in a way so that at least they come to the platform of goodness and engaged them in demi God worship. This is what Vivekananda has taken. When he says you can worship God in any form. However in his last Sripada Sankaracharya realised and spoke Bhaja Govindam Bhaja Govindam.
@blackiyersubrax Being a vaishnav I dont follow everything he has to say( neither do we follow everything the Gaudia Siddhant offers) but I do respect him for everything he did of this country and Vedic dharma , you might be a great devotee and a Mahapurush but I am still a sadhak and since all the acharyas of Ramanuji Parampara have great respect for the Swami I respect him too
@Galavya41 A Vaishnav does not think that he belongs to a country. Bhagavad Gita is above the Vedas. The Vedas are guides to people who act under the 3 modes of material nature (goodness, passion and ignorance) . Dharma means to fix ones senses, body mind intelligence and soul in the service of the Supreme Lord Krishna. An Acharya is one who engages his disciples' senses in Krishna's service.
The mayavadis/impersonalists ultimate goal is to merge with their formless God(attaining mukti), in spite of Krsna's revelations in the Bhagavat Gita that He is the Supreme Personality Of Godhead. This concept is simply an extension of the material idea.
64j2f9fa 1 month ago
In the material world, everyone is trying to be the topmost head man amongst all his fellow men or neighbors. Either communally, socially or nationally, everyone is competing to be greater than all others, in the material concept of life. This greatness can be extended to the unlimited, so that one actually wants to become one with the greatest of all, the Supreme Lord. This is also a material concept, although maybe a little more advanced.
64j2f9fa 1 month ago
Many people are bereft of the knowledge about GOD, This movie is a clear way of revealing the truth about GOD...
manashde10111979 8 months ago
please upload Swami Vivekananda movie
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jackandcodi 10 months ago
please upload Swami Vivekananda movie
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jackandcodi 10 months ago
please upload Swami Vivekananda movie
please please.......
jackandcodi 10 months ago
please upload Swami Vivekananda movie
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jackandcodi 10 months ago
@jackandcodi Vivekananda was always proud of what he never practiced. He never came to the conclusion that Bhakti is topmost. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is demonstrating knowledgeable bhakti as per shastra. Vivekananda was a good person but his practice is not sufficient to attain the highest goal of relieving a suffering soul from the clutches of repeated birth and death and Maya.
blackiyersubrax 3 months ago
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Galavya41 2 months ago
@blackiyersubrax Atleast refer to him as Swami Vivekananda,and as far as SwamiJi not realizing that Bhakti is supreme please read the book PremYog piblished by the math .& secondly bhai , jackandchodi is requesting the uploader to upload the bengali movie on Swami Vivekanand as well , and here you are telling him that Swamiji's views were faulty...C'mon , dosent SwamiJI deserve even this much respect that we can watch a movie made on him in peace and without any sort of comment
Galavya41 2 months ago
@Galavya41 Vivekanand never knew that vedais ca sarvair aham eve vedhyah... i.e. the purpose of knowing Vedas is Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He is talking like Sarvabhauma Bhattacharya. He is sidelining the speaker of the Gita clearly who is Krishna whom Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is worshipping. Vivekananda accepts that God is within but he does not know that Krishna is God. If you do not know Krishna, you do not know God. If you do not know God, you cannot love him
blackiyersubrax 2 months ago
@blackiyersubrax Sir all I mentioned that we can show respect to SwamiJi, thats all . He was the first to take Sanatan Dharma to the west , and he was the first who gave a fitting answer to all those missionaries who wanted to convert entire India by spreading Lies about the Vedas and our Rishis. You might believe in the Gaudia Vaishnav Siddhanta but that does not mean we cant show respect to a sanyasi ,and that too a true sanyasi like vivekananda
Galavya41 2 months ago
@Galavya41 A devotee of the Supreme Lord Krishna respects even an ant's life knowing it to be Krishna's property. Swami means one who has served the real owner of one's senses who is Hrishikesha by using his senses. This Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is demonstrating. So It is not befitting according to the Lord Himself, that Mr. Vivekananda be called a Swami. A person who plagiarises Krishna's philosophy to help people forget Him is not very respectable.
blackiyersubrax 2 months ago
@Galavya41 Also compare the Narada Bhakti Sutra by Prabhavananda and His Divine Grace A.C. Bhakti Vedanta Swami Prabhupada. Everything will be clear. Real Bhakti speaks for itself.
blackiyersubrax 2 months ago
@Galavya41 Sanatana Dharma is the eternal duty of the soul, which is to serve the Supreme Lord Sri Krishna. A soul that does not do this is like a screw out of a machine.. useless. So what did Vivekananda take to the West ?
blackiyersubrax 2 months ago
@blackiyersubrax Sir I am Ramanuji Vaishnav and I dont think that SwamiJI as you put it ever plagiarized Krishna's philosophy to help people forget Him
Galavya41 2 months ago
@Galavya41 Very unfortunate. A humble request. Please read Bhagavad Gita As It Is by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada. It has the full parampara explanation of the Bhagavad Gita. If you are a Vaishnava, please appraise me of your spiritual master in one of the four Vaishnava Sampradayas. Anyone who is serving his own senses or of other people is not a Vaishnava. He is a Sudra. Definitely I am a Sudra. This discussion is only glorifying Krishna.
blackiyersubrax 2 months ago
@blackiyersubrax Sir do you think its unfortunate that I follow the teachings of Viśiṣṭādvaita as purported by Bhagwan Ramanujacharya , or do you think its " UNFORTNATE" to respect an Adwaiti Monk like Swami Vivekanda..As far as reading of GeetaJi is concerned ...
Galavya41 2 months ago
@Galavya41 Why do you find Ramanujacharya taking Krishna's holy names 24 x 7? and why not Vivekananda. Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu accepted the teachings of Sri Ramanujacharya. Why did Vivekananda not take shelter of a Vaishnava Guru in the Sri Sampradaya? There is no comparison between Ramanujacharya and Vivekananda.
blackiyersubrax 2 months ago
@blackiyersubrax ..And I am not even trying to make a comparison , as far as I am concerned not even God can be compared to my GuruDev and Sri Ramanuja , as only an acharya is the true friend of a jeeva and dosent rest until the sishya recieves the devine love for and of Shri Hari. I just respect VivekanandJi that's all.
Galavya41 2 months ago
@blackiyersubrax Sir let me assure that there is a huge amount of Ramanuji liturature avaliabla which includes GeetaJI &its bhashyas by various Acharyas and I have been in the process of understanding it by sitting near the feet of my GuruDev at SriRangam..
Galavya41 2 months ago
@Galavya41 Even in Gaudiya Vaishnav history there have been apasampradayas. Arjuna accepted what Krishna spoke but he asked the right questions. Both the teacher and master must glorify Krishna satisfactorily. Glorifying also means identifying the impersonalists like Vivekananda so that the innocent general populace is not misled. Advaita means there is none other comparable to Krishna. It means we are part and parcel of His inconceivable energy which is non-different from Him.
blackiyersubrax 2 months ago
@blackiyersubrax My gurudev taught me thats its good to show respect to a monk even if the monk belonged to the Jain or Buddhist tradition( Swamiji is a lot closer) , pranam sab ko par bhakti ( upasana) ek Raghvendra ki.I see no harm in offering my Namaskaras to the Swami , even though I dont follow his teachings entirely.
Galavya41 2 months ago
@Galavya41 Lord Buddha is also Vishnu tattva. His mission was to rid people of the whimsical following of the Vedas. Being the Lord Himself, He had the authority to guide crazy people of those times to Himself. So Lord Buddha speaks of Sunyavada and rejects the Vedas. Even Jainism's roots lie in the Vedic culture and the purpose was the same.. to lead people away from the ritualistic following of Vedas.So Sankaracharya 's advent was to re-establish Vedas and eliminate Sunyavada.
blackiyersubrax 2 months ago
@blackiyersubrax Sir being a Vaisnav dont you know I know all this alredy ,?. I very well know what SwamiJi taught and what the mayavadi siddhant is , I also know about Buddhist and Jain Philosophies but thasts not the question..all I am saying that its nice to show respect to even Jainis and Buddhist , and then VivekanandJi is a lot closer to us than the Jainis etc..
Galavya41 2 months ago
@Galavya41 Yes you can respect him as Krishna's marginal energy but not his philosophy. I also respect my neighbours, you, everybody, plants , trees , tiger, donkey.. but as Krishna's energy... but I don't bow down to them as somebody who will take us to Krishna. We should definitely bow down to the acharyas, guru and Krishna himself who teach us how to go back to Krishna and be happy in His service.
blackiyersubrax 2 months ago
@blackiyersubrax I have already mentioned that I dont follow his teachings ..This argument is going nowhere, please continue doing what you feel is best..so sorry to have objected to your precious comments...so khsma from you..and a very heartfelt Jai Raghvendra .
Galavya41 2 months ago
@Galavya41 My intention was never to argue with you but to render the topmost service unto you and humanity which is glorifying the holy names of the Lord. Thank you for purifying me by giving me this opportunity.
blackiyersubrax 2 months ago
@Galavya41 Only bhaktas are dear to Krishna. I am sure you are aware of this. So a person who is preacing Bhagavad Gita but not glorifying Krishna satisfactorily does not love Krishna. Is this difficult to understand. Why is Vivekanand closer to us than Jains?All these religions are meant to endear us to God is it not ? Jains are better when they say Krishna is not God. Vivekananda is holding B.G. in his hand and taking us away from the personality Krishna who is God.
blackiyersubrax 2 months ago
@Galavya41 You are intelligent and that is why Krishna has given you an opportunity to be born in a Vaishnava family. We should be even more inquisitive and chant Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare every day or the Hari mantra your spiritual master in Ramanujacharya's disciplic succession has given you incessantly and make our lives sublime and not fall in the trap of you and I are God.
blackiyersubrax 2 months ago
@Galavya41 However since people could not accept Sri Krishna immediately, He explained the Vedas in a way so that at least they come to the platform of goodness and engaged them in demi God worship. This is what Vivekananda has taken. When he says you can worship God in any form. However in his last Sripada Sankaracharya realised and spoke Bhaja Govindam Bhaja Govindam.
blackiyersubrax 2 months ago
@blackiyersubrax Being a vaishnav I dont follow everything he has to say( neither do we follow everything the Gaudia Siddhant offers) but I do respect him for everything he did of this country and Vedic dharma , you might be a great devotee and a Mahapurush but I am still a sadhak and since all the acharyas of Ramanuji Parampara have great respect for the Swami I respect him too
Galavya41 2 months ago
@Galavya41 A Vaishnav does not think that he belongs to a country. Bhagavad Gita is above the Vedas. The Vedas are guides to people who act under the 3 modes of material nature (goodness, passion and ignorance) . Dharma means to fix ones senses, body mind intelligence and soul in the service of the Supreme Lord Krishna. An Acharya is one who engages his disciples' senses in Krishna's service.
blackiyersubrax 2 months ago
thanks a lot....radhe radhe
suchakra 11 months ago
thanks for uploading this...
vaskar28 1 year ago