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  • Just bought a LP. I can say that it is worth the price. I've never encountered anything in my 19 years of playing that can compete with a Moog.

  • i found the presets (factory presets) are dreadful and off-putting. Thank heavens I got past those. The Little Phatty is probably closer in spirit and playability to the Minimoog, than the Voyager is. Voyager = Moog IIIC. Phatty = Minimoog. IMHFO

  • so im kinda confused

    i read under the specs the phatty can be used as a midi controller aswell

    is that true?

  • @Utubesuxmycock Yessir

  • @Utubesuxmycock why use a moog as a midi controller?

  • I have a Little Phatty and love the sounds you are doing! I assume you made most of them and are not using the presets? Would you be able to share the patches?

  • @Jikodis Thanks - these are tweaked presets - sorry, but I didn't write down or store what I did in this demo. Also, keep in mind that I am using a delay/reverb unit as well...

  • @keybdwizrd That makes sense. Sometimes I like to start from the presets and go from there. I really want some sort of analog effects unit. It really accentuates things well. Would like to have a Roland RE-501 someday.

  • its nice, but could have been a lot more phat with a vco instead of dco... I wonder why moog or smith don't make a new vco synth... you would think there are still some inovative things to do with vco... for the moment i just keep with vintage synths, waiting for the moment when a new interesting vco synth enters the market...

  • @antoninprochazka The Little Phatty is VCO. It's just a new design that's stable and self-tuning. It's NOT a DCO.

  • What year? 1978?

  • Hi, I've been watching your demo videos of the moog LP and the DSI mopho. I was looking at getting a slim phatty but the price of the mopho makes it a tempting option. How would you say they compare?

    Thanks

  • @GearTutorials Both are true analog synthesizers but sound very different. For people who absolutely have to have "the Moog sound," then the Little Phatty is a must. The Mopho is an affordable analog option - perhaps buy one of those to start with and see how it goes. The Moogs are somewhat pricey for what they do.

  • @keybdwizrd cheers for replying! From what I've heard of each the moogs filters do sound a lot better but the price difference is what's making it a tough decision. If they were the same price I'd go for the moog hands down. Do like the compactness of the mopho though.

    Got some serious thinking to do then...

    Thanks again!!

  • Wow the original Blue LP they look nice with that color, i dont much care for the new stage 2 LP with its orange/red thing going on

  • @Taud I agree 100%.

  • @Taud By the way, this is the Bob Moog Tribute edition - only 1,400 were made and sold globally.

  • @keybdwizrd yeah i remember years ago when i kept trying to save for that one because it was limited but i didnt know it was only 1500$ thats a nice collectors piece, lol im trying to get a used LP stage 2 right now embarrassingly enough and its the gross looking orange one : P

  • @Taud oh whoops i meant 1400 units lol**

  • I am surprised that you, of all people, does not have an original MiniMoog.

  • @fooloof I never have been a big Moog fan, and never had a desire to have a MInimoog. These days, I don't really have use for any synth that doesn't have MIDI and patch memory. I bought the Moog LP (and still have it as of this writing) with the thought that someday I might upgrade to a Minimoog Voyager. I guess I have never thought it was worth the money to do so. Just my two cents.

  • I REALLY WANT ONE! BUT THE PRICE KICKS ME BACK TO THE MUD!

  • Plus the Moog is not made for people on a budget really. It's like saying a Mercedes Benz is overpriced because you can't afford one.

  • when's your first album due to be released ? i'm buying it for sure.

  • It is overpriced and is not, it is a big money maker source for Moog company becasue everyone want a Voyager but just 1 of 20 (or more) can affort it, Moog have top of the line intruments but are expensive, people go more for Vsynths becasue they are more reliable in a home use or vst's, I play since 1984 and I saw just a few guys with 3 or more $3000 synthesizers on home. Moog is a legend in the music history and everyone want that name in a home studio piece of gear and 1k synth do the job

  • mm... i am kind of concerned about how tihs unit might be overpriced just for being moog... although it seems as an amazing analog synth capable of very vintage sounds (classical moog, even some arp sounding there) but as well some very contemporary stuff (nice electro bass, crazy cool IDM leads...)... mmm... mopho kb... little phatty... complicated

  • @mynmyself It is overpriced, just because it's a Moog. But lots of people want that "Moog sound," or at least they think they do. :)

  • @keybdwizrd yeah... i like that classicalmoog sound (who doesnt?) but is kind of expensive, although you get a versatile analog monosynth (at least you get nearly all the versatility available on a monosynth) and it even has that moog sound... i think i am going to get the slim phatty and a sherman filterbank, nearly the same price as just one little phatty...

  • @mynmyself Get a slim phatty instead of this if you don't dig the price. Chances are you already have a synth to use as a master keyboard, or some midi controller. You get the same nice interface as the little phatty on the slim version.

  • @mynmyself The Little Phatty is on $1265. Do you know they are still selling the Voyager for like 4 or 5 stacks? I'd say it's a deal really. Plus, you have to think what goes into the pricing. You're talking about a company that makes a very specific product, a analog synth, that cost a lot of money to create but not a lot of people buy. For the most part, only serious musicians are gonna buy Moog where, for instance, anyone can fork over 200-300 for FL Studio.

  • @keybdwizrd You're absolutely right. It is certainly overpriced.., but people pay it simply because it's Moog. At the price these go for though.., they should at least have some basic effects built in. I will say that this synth makes the MoPho keyboard look like one hell of a bargain ;-)

  • @keybdwizrd might be overpriced but the LP outperforms the Mopho.

  • @mynmyself The pricing is not a product of it being a "Moog" in the legacy since, but the fact that it simply costs more for a small company to make a true analog synthesizer with discrete circuits instead of chips, or simply a digital synth. If you've ever listened to one in person or played one live you will see why it is worth it. Its just so warm and organic in nature.

  • @mynmyself Don't you dare comparing Mopho with a LP. Seriously.

    It's not overpriced in any way. You get what you pay, that's for sure.

    I was about to buy a Mopho kb and then I saw a vid of LP, then I bought it. I'll never regret.

  • whut pressets are u using? i cant recognise them on mine tribute edition

  • @deafpenguin In this video I started with presets and tweaked them up a bit. I did not keep track of which ones.

  • Tribute edition.. Bloody nice man.

  • im wondering if moog sells wood panel ends to replace the plastic crap ones - here he is playing the tribute edition which is the only one with the cool wood end panels- most lps are plastic

  • @salvadory I think wood is overrated, a relic of '70s design "aesthetics".

  • @Desmaad yeah you know quality like metal and wood(sarcasm) and the 70s - the era of the hands down best analogs- Looks way better and is one of the reasons why it will be far more collectable in the future- regular LPs re already used on ebay for 750- you know the ones with the crap plastic 80s look!

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  • @salvadory Bullshit! Internals and interface matter more than looks. I just think wood is glorified a bit too much.

  • @Desmaad no doubt- but if i pay money i expect the synth to be built with quality material- sorry but the 70s synths were not only better internally with far fatter better sounding analog chips but they were made like tanks- hence why a 70s moog will cost the price of 7 little phatties! Ive owned all the big boys still have some and modern synths pale in comparison- my moog prodigy from the 80s is far warmer and fatter than the little phatty by far- not as versatile ofocourse

  • dude, what scale u playin?

  • Moog is supposedly going to release a keyboardless version soon for $799 US! I can't wait! (it's called the Slim Phatty, btw.)

  • @Desmaad for the same price you can now buy a used little phatty which id recommend

  • this is amazing stuff!.. thanks you bro for your nice job!...

  • thats sick dad wants me to get one of those

  • Sick! What a great little machine. Loved the demo. Nicely done.

  • I absolutely LOOOOOVE that first patch you used :D.

  • Did you ever have it plugged into an FX rack during this tutorial, or does it include reverb, delay, etc..?

  • @DrVoxeatspeople The Little Phatty has no on board effects. I am using a Lexicon MX200 effects unit for reverb and delay.

  • It sounds even better live running through a tube amp. OMG you cannot believe how warm and expressive this little synth sounds.

  • some awesome sounds ! this machine is a little monster :P does anyone know if this machine comes loaded already with these sounds ?

  • @samdaftpunk Mostly, yes, although I may have tweaked them a bit.

  • is it not possible to have this same great sound with a polysynth? I'm new to synthesizers and was wondering why they still make synths that are monophonic. anyway the Little Phatty is awesome and this is a great demonstration

  • @dice283 A polyphonic version of this synth could be made, but the retail cost could be way above $5,000. Moog is a somewhat boutique company and their costs seem to be really high (I don't know the reason). Dave Smith Instruments makes the Prophet 08, which is a polyphonic analog synthesizer. It sells new for about $2,000. I have plenty of demos of that one too.

  • @dice283 monophonic has some advantages just as polyphonic has advantages.

  • @dice283 eventually Moog will put out a polyphonic synth. Dave Smith was able to put out the Prophet 08 at a reasonable price point, so it can be done.

  • I dunno, I was thinking of getting this as a bass synth, but there's something about the sound that isn't doing it for me. I really dont think I've heard any bass patch on the Little Phatty that I like. Minimoog yes, moog source, yes . . . phatty . .. just no.

  • man this sounds really nice and organic

  • Does the little phatty allow you to use both hands at once or can you just hit one key at a time??

    Thanks

  • @matuks95 You can use both hands, but it can only play one note at a time. :)

  • @keybdwizrd only 1 poly, as the minnimoog?

  • @Soadtt Like the Minimoog you can play one note at a time.

  • You guys are disappointed with it because you aren't taking full advantage. If you don't have all the CV mods installed - get those and get you some CV controllers, like the Moogerfoogers, Multi-Pedal or whatever - that is what is what turns the Phatty into an amazing synth. I bought mine from Sweetwater because it already has the CV mods installed! :P

  • Hi keybdwizrd,

    compared to the arturia minimoog, which sounds "phatter" the little phatty oder the arturia software?

  • Most people looking for that "real" Moog sound will only find it from a real Moog synthesizer. The majority of people who listen to music probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between hardware and software.

  • I have to say, after fiddling around with it for a few good months now.. I'm disappointed with it.

  • Beautiful synth; one of my favorites. I wonder why Moog doesn't bother with a proper polysynth?

  • Because they're busy making Moog Guitars and Voyagers with no MIDI or patch memory. I don't understand the decisions the company makes.

  • one decision they made that I'm thrilled about is that they reissued the Taurus pedals.

  • @Desmaad Do you know how many polysynths moog has made? 2. TWO. (technically the MG-1 has a polyphonic organ section if you count that and the Sonic 6 is duophonic but that doesnt count) the memorymoog, and the polymoog.

  • @Desmaad Do you know how many polysynths moog has made? 2. TWO. (technically the MG-1 has a polyphonic organ section if you count that and the Sonic 6 is duophonic but that doesnt count) the memorymoog, and the polymoog. they can't have more than that

  • @Cds56 You forgot the Opus-3. Anyway, what's stopping them from ringing up NatSemi or some other chip foundry and asking them to make IC versions of their circuitry? Besides money, of course.

  • @Desmaad Check out Dave Smith Tetra or Prophet 08. They sound amazing and they are cheaper than a moog

  • @senarodrigo I have considered those.

  • ARPEGIATTOR?

  • I believe there's a firmware upgrade that adds an arpeggiator, and the new models have it.

  • Are these all presets?

  • For the most part, although in this video I did tweak 'em up a bit.

  • Sweeeet haha :D thanks!

  • @keybdwizrd Hey... I was wondering if it is possible to record with af little phatty in a sequencer program? It is analog, but isn't i digital controlled? ... I am really close at buying it but i'm not sure if i can use it in a digital studio. Im not that good in knowing alot about synthesizer yet, so you probably think that it's a lame question, but i would appreciate if you would answer :)

  • The Little Phatty has MIDI, so yes, it can be used with a sequencing program.

  • @keybdwizrd Cool. I've just hear something about that i couldn't but obviously i can. :) Thanks,

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  • I drove an hour and a half yesterday to a store all amped up to buy one of these, and after trying it for an hour I decided against buying it. I have a novation bass station rack which i've had for about 10 years, I didn't find the LP to sound much different. I started by programming my own sounds then trying all the patches as well. The keyboard/hands on control is great. For someone who wants this sound, get the LP, but if you are on a budget or not sure, grab a Bass Station rack off ebay.

  • The Moog LP is not a very good value for the money. For analog purists who just gotta have that Moog bass, fine, otherwise save yer nickels. I enjoy using it to play screaming synth leads with a live band, but it doesn't get much use in my studio. I doubt many people could hear the difference between a "real" Moog and a virtual analog softsynth anyway.

  • keybdwizrd I was thinking the same. Yes the low end on Moog is amazing but as for the other sounds I've heard them all in software.

  • @keybdwizrd

    I played with a Voyager at the store.. I think thats the only synth I need ever. You have one

  • @mpresev No. I do not have a Voyager.

  • your like herbie hancock or something.

  • thx, best demos on youtube :-)

  • Love your work, wiz!

    Especially your effort at 1:50 ~ 2:09.

  • Thank you very much!

  • dude you are a legend synth player!!

  • Classic :)

  • Just picked one of these up on ebay for $770 shipped. Appears to be in mint condition, cant wait for it to get here..

  • I have a Little Phatty I love it the filters are out of this world you just can't get that sound with plug ins.

  • arpeggiator on the stage II

  • To QuadroWho and others!

    Just a side note to clarify to everyone, the Stage 1 is the exact same as the Stage II, without the USB! So, you can still get arpeggiator and all other features of the Stage II on the Stage I if you download the update from the moog website.

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  • Not my cup of thee this synth.

    Great demo by de way. :-)

  • great playing ! Great demo

  • very warm

  • Im waiting for a video that actually shows if this thing is phat. I mean, come on. I own a KORG R3, and it can make all of these sounds, and sound PHATTER than this... Off to Sam Ash. I must be going crazy, right?

  • yeah dude, the only reason it dont sound phat is cus its a youtube video, once you actually play on a moog you know that the thing is way more powerful than an R3 or any korg really, the korgs us a computer chip to emulate moog. moogs directly turn electricity into sound

  • yeah, went to sam ash. it's phat. as hell. but, it's just not my style. I was playing through it's presets and messing with the knobs.... i think this is more directed at the funk/rnb type music. not my style, i guess...

  • dude, its not directed towards any style, its what you make of it. its a synthesizer, as in you synthesize your own sound. presets are for dummies. what style music do you plan on making?

  • My type of style is dance/techo/80's new wave/80's hairmetal... That's what I thought, too when I left Sam Ash. I thought "how could I use this...?" It's like saying anyone who owns a Moog MiniMoog is a funk artist. This isn't true because Gary Numan owns (owned?) one, and he started the 80's new wave stuff, and is now into metal stuff (I think...?) but the point is, you're right. :)

  • WHAT?

  • got to disagree - I owned an r3 and got rid of it - nothing sounded good - very plastic - ok, phat plastic maybe... Once you've heard an analogue you'll know what I mean- theres a resonance and a vibration that you feel in your body that the r3 just doesn't have - good for ear shredding maybe. Analogs create real breatning waveforms - digital is like a 'dead' sound.

  • You're probably right, once I've played another analog synth, perhaps the phatty again, I will probably know what the hype is all about. It just hasn't hit me yet. hasn't knocked me out. I need a Juno 106 or an Oberheim, or SOMETHING that will just knock me out. I'm not trying to offend anyone, here. The person in this video is playing this instrument VERY well, it's just that, well, for me, it just didn't make me want to drop $1,300 on a MOOG Little Phatty. It beats the R3's bass sounds though

  • If you get any Juno, get a 60. I have a 60 and have played 106es, the sound on a 106 isn't as thick and rich as a 60. Plus, there are lots of problems with the ICs on the 106.

  • dude, it's simple but not shit by any stretch of imagination.

  • I agree - I owned Radias which is the same shitty sound engine as R3 - Little Phatty just kills it brutally, if you want warm, phat, organic analog sound!

  • I love my little phatty it sounds so sexy and the filter just blows my mind this synth will be a legend

  • Nice sound!

  • The sound from 1:00 - 1:30 sounds kinda like the intro moog solo from Shine On You Crazy Diamond.. I'd love to hear more of this, and I'm considering buying one of these to get that sound myself, as I cannot find it anywhere else!

  • so cool! i want to buy this!

    XD

  • hold the phone.. are you saying the little phatty hasn't got reverb or delay?

  • The Little Phatty has no reverb or delay - no effects at all. Ditto for the Moog Voyager and DSI Prophet 08. It's very common for analog synths to have no effects on board.

  • I'm thinking of buying this project. But as NimaSun i'm also a bit confused over the fact that it doesn't have a reverb or delay function. But i have a Korg MicroX for example. Could i plug it into the Phatty to make the reverb (and others) effect?

  • Depends on whether it's got that capability. Does the micro X have an audio input? If so then most likely you can use it's effects. Otherwise, you can always buy an external Reverb/delay unit. If this product had delay or reverb, it would most likely be a digital effect, therefore making this, and the mopho, or p08 no longer all-analog

  • WHY would it?

    Effects built into synths are a waste of money...

    We just want to hear the RAW SOUND of the synth

  • Yeah I get it now :-)

  • Peter Schilling's Major TOM??? @  2:20 ??

  • EPIC

  • what is your mod wheel controlling?

  • very good

  • its 21st century and moog still decides to make monophonic synths at a hefty price tag. agreed its analog, but look at the prophet 8 and andromeda!

  • the world still needs mono synths. use one and you will see. this sounds infinitely better in mono mode than any of these.

  • Man... the Andromeda is like 3 or 4 grand wtf are u comparing it to the 1.5 grand price point, lavakava?

  • Actually you can probably get an andromeda for about 2 grand these days, and it's 16 part polyphonic so it's worth it.

  • itd be used tho in comparison to something new at that price point so i kind of disagree....

  • Does it have a quantizer?

  • i tryed to duplicate the patch on the stage edition number 74, on to my tribute edition by duplicating every value on the screen and the patch sounded different. I tryed this many times even taking a note pad to the guitar store in order to get it right. can a patch be duplicted or are all synths different?

  • They say that all analog synths sound slightly different, even if they are the same model - because every components counts. And Stage has different components, I guess.

    Which one sounded better, btw?

  • the stage patch was awesome by far it, after i tweeked for a bit i got the sound i wanted which was like wind blowing in a big hollow area like an empty alley or a subway it was flat out awsome and now i can somewhat create it on the tribute but i know its no were close

  • the part at 1:50 is amazing

  • Mr wakeman would approve wouldnt he! Rockin.

  • Does the little phatty have glide?

    I thought I saw some glide action but it could have just been the pitch bender or an envelope.

  • Yes it has glide (portamento).

  • this made me want one even moreeee

  • How do you get your hands on all of this stuff man?

  • this is a cool little analog synth!!!

  • Great sound. You should play Prog Rock.

  • i love your sounds

    but you use triplets alot, it gets repetetive

  • Awesome!!!!!!

  • that was sweet! thanks for sharing

  • At 2:29, is that an example of the overdriven filter sounds? Does sound a little similar to the Taurus I.

    Nice demos.

    Rhythmnicons

  • i am tempted to return my kurzweil k2661 for this moog. would you think that's a wise choice? i dunno what i'm thinking

  • Well, that's really trading an apple for an orange.  Or watermelon.

  • is that a microX i see hanging oh so delicately above the moog?

  • yes, but there's nothing delicate about that stand.

  • you sure about that?

    del⋅i⋅cate /ˈdɛlɪkɪt/ [del-i-kit]

    1. fine in texture, quality, construction, etc.

    5. fine or precise in action or execution; capable of responding to the slightest influence.

    i wasn't calling your stand a pussy.

  • "i wasn't calling your stand a pussy"

    ROFL!!

    XD

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  • Descenttoheaven909 what's kind of music you play and synth you use?

  • Must. Get. One. Of. These.

  • I don't even play synth and I really fucking want one of these.

  • that's the power of moog, you are just really cool if you got one on stage (even if you're tambourine player) Cobham used to have 2 moogs behind him, but he didn't use them through the whole concert.

  • check out the korg kaossilator. my metal obsessed friend wants one.

  • Now youve made me get a Moog Tribute Ed. also!! In addition to the Prophet 08! Youve put me in ruin!!!

  • the little phatty sounds soo nice. i want to buy some moog kit really bad, i've been wanting to buy the prodigy ever since i was like 12 because Liam Howlett used it early on. the prodigy is a little out of my price bracket, have you played the rogue? is it comparable to the lp?

  • I actually have a video that compares (somewhat) the LP to a Rogue. For me, the LP is the obvious choice since it has patch memory and MIDI, and sounds great. The Rogue is more limited in terms of sound capability and features, but many people prefer those vintage oscillators.

  • I went to guitar center yesterday totally planning to buy another microkorg to replace my old one. I came home with a Little Phatty instead. I asked which synth had the deepest darkest textures and was analog and was within my price bracket, this was it. This amazing tool is not just the best sounding instrument I have ever bought it is also a piece of history. On the presets alone it has many sounds popularized in Industrial and Gabber music. This is the real deal.

  • quite a step up from the microkorg, haha. I would know, I've got one

  • would you say the LP sounds better than the virus as in sonics and tone ??

  • The LP has that pure analog tone, if that's what you want, but the Virus can produce a much wider variety of waveforms, can play many notes at the same time, and can play up to 16 different sounds simultaneously. So they are just different instruments for different purposes.

  • Great demo man!! Gives a wonderful perception of the phattys functions and sounds ;)

  • Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.

  • 2:50 sounds rad! I was messing with one of these today. I'd love to get one, but I have no idea how to play at all.

  • omg i finally bought one the other weekend its so addictive and the sound is MASSIVE!

  • just for info, no arpeq or sequencer on this is there.

    so its all playing or nothin.

    thanks

  • correct - no arps, no sequencer, just playing.

  • I need to get one of those. I have a Microkorg but the moog sounds really amazing....