My gosh, you just put into words what I've been thinking lately. It's so very true that there are more thugs than ever because of no consequences anymore. It's always a pack of them against one person. Thugs are by nature cowards.
I agree with what you say, except, mma fighters at a professional level are martial artists such as anderson silva and forreat griffin etc, are all humble fighters
What makes or breaks a martial artist or a thug is how they apply their martial arts training.. Anyone in the world can learn martial arts, people who use it mearly for the use if bullying people, overpowering people, or illegal acts such as mugging, stealing etc are thugs, a true martial artist is some one who learns the martial a
Look dude, I understand what you're trying to say... But what your saying is absolute bullshit. Most people who are savvy on staying a live period, carry a knife on them at minimum. MMA fighters are not thugs, you're flat out deriding an entire community of active combat practitioners based on what, fucking youtube comments? Come on man.
I've grown up in martial arts (Tukong Moosul was point A at 4 years old) and can tell you with absolute certainty that every school churns out a few asswipes.
Most people who train in martial arts with a god teacher will never beat on someone. I train in hapkido in Seoul south Korea. If my teacher heard I started a fight, i would be banished from the do jang for good!
Awesome vid, mate. I personally only want to learn martial arts as a way to learn more about my body, get more control over it and hopefully reach a sort of spiritual enlightenment. However, in a more practical sense, where I live there are a lot of.. scum.. picking on my 10 year old brother (them being adults, mind), saying stuff, threatening with physical violence etc. So it's also for defense in those senses.
training for the right reasons is a thing of the past too many braggers nowadays, if two people of equal training end up in a situation that might turn in to a fight they would see the futility and instead share their knowledge and both become even more skilled, training begins and ends in the mind the body will grow strong if the mind is strong people who need to defeat lesser oppoinants are the 1s who are weak
The dojo I go to actually has some thugs there. I know everyone would, but I'd like to say I'm a martial artist if a bit aggressively defensive. If someone is a threat I'll get the same consequence either way, I'm going to make it worth it and teach the "bad" person/s fear if I can. As far as weapons go, I only wish I could carry my tonfas or a wakizashi.
Very nice philosophy my friend. I explain this all the time to people I teach, it is nice to see the thoughts echoed. I, like many trained in MA to not fight. I was never bullied or scared, but am an easy going person and martial arts are a way of life. Many people train in MA but want to show what they can do to justify doing it. MA have survived hundreds of years by being taught by dedicated people. It can only continue with the correct attitude. Peace
So do I. Partly because I'm a devil-may-care ninja warrior, equipped and willing to deal death with everyday implements - a blood-craving ubermensch for whom four inches of cross-head metal is more dangerious than any gun.
I respect Martial Arts my cousin has a Kungfu class he teaches.What an advantage it is to be physically mentally and spiritually healthy.Without Love for one another we think inwardly.Martial Law and Arts needs to include Love and that is the spiritual side.Thats what Jesus meant when he says if you live by the sword you will die by the sword.Are people too narrow minded to see how important it is to love your neibour? I dont think so.
@SvenTviking its cause some think that when they have done a few lessons of mma they are shit hot fighters, but real mma fighters are calm and dont start shit, when i started mma ive become why more calm and passive, but yeah your right, ive met a few blokes here who think they are good fighters until someone decks them
The toughest person I ever met in my life was also one of the classiest gentlemen you could have ever met. He taught me how to box, and he trained boxers into his 80's. He took "thugs" and turned them into men. I'll never forget one of the first things I ever heard him say. He said "I don't give a SH#T if you lose - Most of you are already losers. I'm going to teach you how to fight, win-or-lose, like a MAN".
He passed away in 1999, and I'll never forget him.
Love what you're saying and wholeheartedly behind your cause here.
I do disagree on one thing though, I find a lot of thugs aren't Martial Artists. Hell, they can't even fight, they just instil fear and use aggression and strength towards the innocent or the vulnerable.
Or is that just in Western society? I guess in the east, where the Arts are more commonly used, there may be certain people who abuse their fighting talents. But I can safely say the local skinheads/loudmouths just swing arms.
exactly! With today's laws, thugs just have more power over civilians, because now, people who abide by the laws can't carry weapons, and the thugs still can.
Sir ty for this explanation.and im sure the responses u get are what you were searching for. I see it too. People are confused about what u are saying and will never see it. Martial is the act of killing and art is the ability to hone the temperament to control this skill. Americans now are brain washed by MMA and will never understand what u are talking about.
i completly agree with everything you just said, especially the part about us needing more traditional martial artists with weapons and armour and still not be a thug but an honorable warrior
You sir are NOT a martial artist. What training you have? A MARTIAL ARTIST, like Bruce Lee, Saint Pierre ect... train, EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THEIR LIFE! You sire, aren't even in shape! That's like my gun owning ass calling myself and "operator" when only special ops get that designation. I guarantee you, I can kill you with my bare hands... you don't stand a chance, the average THUG in jail is in better shape than YOU, poser... Martial Artist, ha ha... yeah right.
@robsterbot2006 he's trying to change the definition of a "martial artist" which is a heavily disciplined fighter and trainer that covers lots of areas of hand on hand combat follows a strict diet and trains every single day that it's possible to train, and he try to change the definition to a person who knows how to control their temper and are quiet? Give me a break.... he's a martial artists, well I'm a war veteran (who never fought a war) simple cause I won a few guns. Look, 'm a NAVY SEAL
I think it was the realisation of how easily my master could kill me is what calmed me down in my youth. Looking at him or speaking to him would not give you the impression that he was dangerous and I started to view every person in this way. The other aspect was learning how easily we, as humans, can be hurt. The more ways I learned to hurt people the less aggression I felt. This is the duality of opposites that he kept going on about. It has only taken me 20 years to understand this.
Same here. My master never looked or acted like the kind to do some serious damage. He was always smiling and joking. But man could he hit...I had bruises from him that stayed for at least a week. I felt more confident in myself the longer I studied Martial Arts; not just the fact that I tempered my mind and body, but the fact that I was able to achieve something as difficult as MA made me more confident in what I could do.
Hi Tsoas, I really appreciate what you're saying I practiced martial arts for long time and I never tried to show my strenghness on the street, even if I was provoked by thugs on the street, I was always able to avoid the fight with the intelligence. One has to avoid teachers that teach to be violent, with the excuse that this martial art or that fighting system is "real". They are BAD teachers. Well done. By the way where are you from? Cheers from Italy
@TSOAS2008 I really like what you're saying here mate. I had been training for well over 8 years before I realised real martial training is about defeating yourself daily; doubt, fear, pride, ego. I feel the hardest battle is retaining perspective and humility in the face of great praise.
@stratovanzo gOOD REACTION, BUT YOU ARE BETTER NOT TRYING TO SHOW SKILLS BECAUSE FACING THREE GUYS A BIT CLEVER WHO MAY HAVE NICE AND YOU ARE LIKELY TO LOOSE.
tWO THINGS TO ILLUSTRATE MY STATMENT, i KNOW ONE GUY WHY WAS EXTREMELY TRINED (INC BLACK BELT KARATE AND HIGH LEVEL OF kRAV, HE WAS PISSED BY THREE GUY AND HE WANTED TO TEACH THEM A LESSON. hO KNOCKED ONE, BUT TOOK A BEATING FROM THE OTHER TWO, RESULTS: A BROKEN JAW THREE RIBS. BESIDE THE KNOCKED ONE TOOK HIM TO COURT AND WON.
@joimko2 better you read again what I wrote..I said that the best way on the street is to avoid fighting, I never said that I try to show my skills, where did you read this from me????
Simply stated. Honor is a source item. Honor is given not recived. Thugs give no honor therefore they are without honor. AKA Dishonorable. Honor your society, family and your community and you will be an honorable person.
this i 100% agree with you on. no argument between where what or how Ninjutsu or any other form of martial art stemmed from or is practiced. martial arts should be used to protect. not kill. anyone who uses martial arts to kill or purposly goes out of his way to harm another because he's a "martial artist" is a thug. i suppose i strayed from this incident a little in one case as i warned a person i was a martial artist and i would use them on this kid, however, it was also to protect my brother
Perfect, and completely true. Best to learn to avoid the fight in the first place than learn to fight. Obviously the latter is important, but usually wont be required.
I heard a story once where these 2 martial arts experts were having a drink together and one of them said, "I can kick everyone's ass in this bar." The other martial artist said, "Everyone is this bar is safer, because I'm here."
This is a great video that really sums up what a lot of people are thinking! BUT, i I think thisTMA versus MMA debate that creeps into everything is really sad so I want to make a point. I train in an MMA gym because i love the arts of mauy thai and BJJ and they give great training there, but i also appreciate the lack of attitude or ego there compared to the bujinkan dojo i trained at. A lot of "fans" of mma who like to post on forums give it a bad name.
@loxley75 agreed, i hate the MMA v TMA argument, that is my point, both need to sort themselves out, MMA people need to understand that take downs and pins and all that will not help when a gand are stamping on your head and TMA need to actually do some training. So i agree 100%, and in real life, its not important, just dont die!
Great video. I have been watching MMA for awhile and giving attention to how the fighters represent themselves. Those with a Traditional Martial Arts background tend to have a different demeanor than the norm. They are more humble and respectful. Less likely to talk trash and competition means more to them than fighting and beating someone up. There are too many thugs and punks in the sport. Not enough Martial Artists.
guys listen to someone who has experience in the street like me and they will tell you what works and what wont. like bouncers. by the way dont ask me. lol i might end up getting hate comments from about 100 martial arts fans. so save some energy because you cant argue with experience!
i trained in taekwon doe and tang soo doe for eleven years and im a second degree blackbelt and i apprecite this video because alot of people who say i am just a thug and it pisses me off hering tht but i hoghly appreciate this video
@TSOAS2008 Wow, an uploader actually replied to my comment! Is it you or someone you know talking in this video? And yes, this was a huge factor in my decision!
@yannbane yes, its me in the vid. Iget many comments on here, many just opinions, but if it inspired you, then i am mega happy! Have a look around my website for more stuff, free downloads etc for you if you are interested in Japan.
I don't know what the Brits consider "thugs", but in the U.S. thugs are NOT tough guys who are "good at what they do". They're cowards. They THINK they're good. They THINK they're tough. They THINK they're strong. However, stand up to them and they almost always back down. You give thugs more credit than they deserve.
@SgtTravisBickle yep, good old idiots that wait around to kick people in in the dark, or the lump like guys who use their weight to get what they want. The idiots of society. My point here is that while there are some lovley people in MMA there is no common or moral code, its all about flash. So we need a moral code for kids to enjoy, like in old school TMA.
@SgtTravisBickle Well its a tad different from chav, chav is just someone who wants to be hard and acts it, however they usualyl are scared kids who gang up, Thugs are townies people who usually can back up what they say
@seattle0002 well my friend youve never met a thug and id be willingy to bet you wouldnt walk up to anyone who claims to be a thug and say anything of that nature your not a very bright person your def no martial artist you just proved that your self
There are surely still thugs around today. Both the street kind...but even more important to the every day person in this world of ridiculous corporate/Maritime/Contract laws and money that rules everything... the thugs that dress up in $5000 suits and work on Wall Street, the Federal Reserve and in the halls of power throughout the US and world. They are every bit as ruthless as the street thug, if not more so but 1000's of times more dangerous and have been responsible for all wars in history
as one martial artist to another you hit the nail right on the head, my friend. just because a person thinks they know some martial arts doesnt make them a true martial artist.
People don't understand that a true martial art is not just about fighting, it's about improving yourself, establishing peace of mind, and learning to only use violence as a last resort. Self defense is only a small part of what martial arts teaches.
@MrBluesTopTen That is correct, but because martial arts were so effective, practitioners realized that they must use what they have studied only as a last resort or in times of war. The rigorous training strengthens both the mind and body. Now that hand-to-hand combat is almost obselete, the other things that you learn from it are more important.
I have trained in in martial arts for over 47 years and have tough for over 39 years. Its so good to know that there are others out there that believe the same as I do. But I do fine MMA are a entertaining SPORT.
MMA fighters or 'MA fighters' as you put it, ARE martial artist's, the sport consists of various different martial arts hence the use of 'mixed', a combination of brazilian jiu jitsu, wrestling (freestyle and greco roman), Muay thai kickboxing to name the predominant arts involved. martial arts fasinate me and ive read books on and follow the virtues of Bushido. your knowledge on MMA is too limited to be able to accuratly judge it, i thought someone of your stature would know better.
Alot of what you say is true about thugs in our day and age, but the way in which you talk about MMA fighters is very mistaken and stereotypical. as a mixed martial artist my self i will admit that there are people who enter the sport for social status and an ego boost, but these kinds of people do not last long in our gym and most other gyms and are usually humbled resulting in them leaving or gaining a new respect for martial arts and people in general. continued...
Wrong Brian Cox mate. I mean the Professor Brian Cox, he does loads of shows about space for the BBC, so I guess you are not British. Just search for him on youtube and you will see what I mean about the voice.
@KingOfTheShrews Just a pointer for you twat.Scottland is not "in" Britain.It's an entirely different nation.That's like saying China is in Russia just because they're adjacent.The only thing "inane and meaningless" is your ignorant ramblings.
@KingOfTheShrews lol..."spell it 'write'".At least I only accidently added a T in haste.You dont even know how to spell "right".....and just ask any Scott if they consider themselves British.See what answer you get.I'd just love to break your slack jaw.
Whether they consider themselves British or not is a completely different issue to your geographical fallacy. "Scotland is not in Britain, it is an entirely different nation" is clearly complete and utter bollocks.
And lmfao at the last bit! Why is it that inarticulate nationalist scum like you have to resort to violence even on the internet hahaha? :D It's like me saying I'd love to tear the cunt of your morbidly obese, dirty, haggis-scoffing alcoholic mother. Meaningless. ;)
interesting, there's always one group of thugs that come to MKA tournaments just to spar and then try to bully kids smaller and weaker than them all they do is train in sparring
Save yourself 4 and a half minutes and read this first. Guy spent the entire vidoe describing the difference between different types of thugs (martial artist thugs and regular thugs)
If you what too talk about rulers or great generals being a ego freak is in the job description. That's apples and oranges, IMO if they were loved or hated depended what side you were on. Name one that wasn't. Am not sure I can.
Heh, William the "conquerer" (what a bastard, eh?) qualified as a "thug" in my mind. It's all about perception. This isn't an insult, I like you. Please don't block.
@Donatellangelo amazing point! Good thoughts, but i am not saying their were no thugs in the past, i am saying their was a differance between the two.
TSOAS2008, I find a lot of what you say to be interesting and intelligent. However, please know:
1. 'their' means 'that which belongs to them'.
2. 'there' (as a pronoun) is a way of introducing a sentence where the main verb's subject isn't named, or the subject on which it relies is not named.
Your post should read (capitals for emphasis) "Good thoughts, but i am not saying THERE were no thugs in the past, i am saying THERE was a difference between the two."
I am a 3rd in combat Hapkido an I agree, you do have believe in yourself = ego. That said you also have to have control of your ego. Ego out of control = thug. Thugs don't learn half as much because they think they know it all already. Can a thug beat you sure anyone can be beat at anytime. Fight when you have to not because you can. A thug picks on the weak, a real marshal artist puts themselves between evil and the innocent.
You are very nieve to say you can take on 3 people, 13 year old skinny pot mongs yes but not people your own age, the majority of "thugs" around here do train in Boxing or Muay Thai or something to get them a reputation for being "hard". Steroids and gym work is also rife to many are huge.
You could get into a fight with one guy and he gets a lucky hit and puts you out, you can't say you can take on 3 people at once, maybe 2 if the circumstances are right.
Yes there are, probably high ranking Aikido experts but at least 50% of martial arts places are McDojos that are awful, TKD, Kuk Sool Won, most karate etc - Can't help you all that much.
Great video, but the description " how martial artists and cage fighters differs" is not really fair on mma dudes. I personally dislike mma but cage fighters are not ALL thugs, a lot of them COULD be doing with some of the philosophy to keep their egos right. Some dudes are so macho, tough and lack respect and love. When anyone has to act macho or tough its clear to see they have serious issues. I recommend locking them in a shed and giving strong doses of magic mushrooms or ayahuasca. Yeh
@Gerazini no, i agree, my main point is that we all need to put a little more respect into our training. The problemis MMA normally teaches the growl and head rip approch. but i do agree with you.
Thugs carry knives and other weapons. Thugs hand around in huge gangs.
A normal, everyday, nice person like myself can train his ass off for as long and as hard as he likes, at the end of the day, 3,4,5+ "thugs" against me, i am going to have my head stomped on. Then lets say i do win, 2 days later, the thugs target my house, family, wife, kids, they come back and knife me or my loved ones, destroy my possessions and generally make my life hell. There is no way normal members of society can win
@djeq721. Remember those that live by the sword, die by the sword, also a lot of thugs are young and imature lets see how they handle it when they get older.
Most around my are in Liverpool are 16 upto about 23, ok so most are either not like that, in prisons or dead by the time they get to 30 / 40 but even so, there is always that younger generation of gangs of these idiots out to make a name for themselves by jumping people like me. There is nothing i can do, short of being permitted to carry a firearm.
@djeq721 You could train in martial arts to defend yourself. You could learn to control your aggression, yes that means takin it up a few notches when needed. There are all sorts of weapons that do not seem like weapons you can carry as well. If you learn proper martial arts, you can actually defeat 3 assholes with nothing more than a pencil, at least...I have.
Normal members of society HAVE won, & we won a long, long time ago. Normal, non-thuggish people CREATED civilization - it was the normal people who banded together, organized, and formulated codes of conduct and the means to control and punish the Thugs in your hypothetical example. The people who stomp your head in & knife your family are (usually) going to wind up jailed & executed at the hands of OUR paid enforcers of non-thuggishness (police & courts) if they behave that way.
thats a great dream but typical dreamers dont have a firm grip on history and reality
HSECMAN 1 hour ago
Thanks for putting in words what has been bothering me for years
Maxyshadow 17 hours ago
yep ! spot on 100%
zimmer999t 2 days ago
My gosh, you just put into words what I've been thinking lately. It's so very true that there are more thugs than ever because of no consequences anymore. It's always a pack of them against one person. Thugs are by nature cowards.
ricadrew 5 days ago 2
I agree with what you say, except, mma fighters at a professional level are martial artists such as anderson silva and forreat griffin etc, are all humble fighters
What makes or breaks a martial artist or a thug is how they apply their martial arts training.. Anyone in the world can learn martial arts, people who use it mearly for the use if bullying people, overpowering people, or illegal acts such as mugging, stealing etc are thugs, a true martial artist is some one who learns the martial a
mx854 5 days ago
Look dude, I understand what you're trying to say... But what your saying is absolute bullshit. Most people who are savvy on staying a live period, carry a knife on them at minimum. MMA fighters are not thugs, you're flat out deriding an entire community of active combat practitioners based on what, fucking youtube comments? Come on man.
I've grown up in martial arts (Tukong Moosul was point A at 4 years old) and can tell you with absolute certainty that every school churns out a few asswipes.
Darthsikk 6 days ago
Most people who train in martial arts with a god teacher will never beat on someone. I train in hapkido in Seoul south Korea. If my teacher heard I started a fight, i would be banished from the do jang for good!
countsmyth 2 weeks ago 2
ive got a question, in your opinion am i thug if i walk around hoping a thug would try to mug me. so i can legally hit someone?
lordwirt338244 3 weeks ago
@lordwirt338244 hahha no, just like the reast of us, nice people who wish to test yourself?
TSOAS2008 3 weeks ago
@TSOAS2008 well thats good to know. thanks for the quick answer.
lordwirt338244 3 weeks ago
@lordwirt338244 think of it as driving out the thugs
zimmer999t 2 days ago
@lordwirt338244 Nah, it just makes you stupid. You're not going to beat a bunch of guys with God knows what weapons.
dodododa 1 day ago
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@lordwirt338244 Nah, it just makes you stupid. You're not going to beat a bunch of guys with God knows what weapons.
dodododa 1 day ago
Thug - a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer.
4Firearms 3 weeks ago
Honor and Discipline
faron27 3 weeks ago 3
Awesome vid, mate. I personally only want to learn martial arts as a way to learn more about my body, get more control over it and hopefully reach a sort of spiritual enlightenment. However, in a more practical sense, where I live there are a lot of.. scum.. picking on my 10 year old brother (them being adults, mind), saying stuff, threatening with physical violence etc. So it's also for defense in those senses.
HowToTintWindow 1 month ago
you talk to muts
malukuman48 1 month ago
training for the right reasons is a thing of the past too many braggers nowadays, if two people of equal training end up in a situation that might turn in to a fight they would see the futility and instead share their knowledge and both become even more skilled, training begins and ends in the mind the body will grow strong if the mind is strong people who need to defeat lesser oppoinants are the 1s who are weak
biggunzcdb 1 month ago
every person needs to learn to defend themselves... thank you for this video :-)
khiwarrior 1 month ago 2
SOME ONCE SAID "THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FRIEND OR ENEMY,... ONLY TEACHERS". Keep spreading GOOD TEACHINGS, tomodachi san.
javeruorutetsu 1 month ago 3
ive trained muay thai and bjj for 4 years
now i train in strictly boxing, and i noticed one thing
some accurate points, but quell the rambling and use of the word rubbish
OgBJJ 1 month ago
I USED TO DO ninjutsu. but then i took an arrow to the knee
malwes100 1 month ago
@malwes100 ahahah u fag.
rullah28 1 month ago
The dojo I go to actually has some thugs there. I know everyone would, but I'd like to say I'm a martial artist if a bit aggressively defensive. If someone is a threat I'll get the same consequence either way, I'm going to make it worth it and teach the "bad" person/s fear if I can. As far as weapons go, I only wish I could carry my tonfas or a wakizashi.
animeOmega125 1 month ago
couldnt have explained it better myself
Martialartist90 1 month ago 2
Thug = Americans
Martial Artist = Chinese
RagingBubuli 1 month ago
Very nice philosophy my friend. I explain this all the time to people I teach, it is nice to see the thoughts echoed. I, like many trained in MA to not fight. I was never bullied or scared, but am an easy going person and martial arts are a way of life. Many people train in MA but want to show what they can do to justify doing it. MA have survived hundreds of years by being taught by dedicated people. It can only continue with the correct attitude. Peace
2bsure 2 months ago 3
I really like your philosophy mate.
leeriley66 2 months ago 3
I am from Manchester too. Wythenshawe to be exact. Biggest council estate in Europe, bar none. Paul Calf.
leeriley66 2 months ago 3
2:08 - "they carry screwdrivers...."
So do I. Partly because I'm a devil-may-care ninja warrior, equipped and willing to deal death with everyday implements - a blood-craving ubermensch for whom four inches of cross-head metal is more dangerious than any gun.
But mostly because I'm an IT nerd.
Oh, and I lied about the ninja bit.
Don't diss screwdrivers :/
BillTheIneffable 2 months ago
@BillTheIneffable cool story bro?
OgBJJ 1 month ago
how do i kill a chicken with 1 hand?
elowe549 2 months ago
@elowe549 Choke it!
rottysteve 1 month ago
100% right.. so many dickheads out there that train to fight so they can go out on the weekend and beat on people. absolute scum bags.
gordanz92 3 months ago 12
i believe what you are trying to say dude, is that martial arts is a holistic approach to self discipline and improvement.
and of course to temper ones body within the fires of ones will.
BHALT0S 3 months ago 2
"Quiet mind allows for louder thinking"
GlovedFury 3 months ago
umm, in the past there were many many many more thugs.. uve got it twisted, buddy
sabzz23 3 months ago
Anyone knows a martial artist has nothing to do with a thug. It's like saying a cop and a gangmember are the same because both carry guns.
redreaper2020 3 months ago
@redreaper2020
agree with your logic, however the police are just another gang infact probably the biggest gang of western socities.
h2cker 3 months ago
@h2cker Well, I look forward to my "gang initiation/academy class start" in mid 2012...
redreaper2020 3 months ago
@redreaper2020
Well hopefully your an open minded police officer who really believes in what the system believes is right not what they think is right.
h2cker 3 months ago
I´m a Martial artist for shure. I consider my self a civilized man. I dont use violence when it is not needed.
CBoavida 3 months ago 2
i would love to study not only the martial art, but the philosophy behind it. if only there were more hours in the day.
AngusTheWolf 3 months ago
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I respect Martial Arts my cousin has a Kungfu class he teaches.What an advantage it is to be physically mentally and spiritually healthy.Without Love for one another we think inwardly.Martial Law and Arts needs to include Love and that is the spiritual side.Thats what Jesus meant when he says if you live by the sword you will die by the sword.Are people too narrow minded to see how important it is to love your neibour? I dont think so.
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pwarren1010 3 months ago
Why is it that the majority of marshal artists I have met are thugs? Even Brian Jacks is a cunt.
SvenTviking 4 months ago
@SvenTviking its cause some think that when they have done a few lessons of mma they are shit hot fighters, but real mma fighters are calm and dont start shit, when i started mma ive become why more calm and passive, but yeah your right, ive met a few blokes here who think they are good fighters until someone decks them
727Chase 3 months ago
@SvenTviking They are not martial artists, they are these MMA punks. There is a huge difference.
diamonddust22 3 months ago
The toughest person I ever met in my life was also one of the classiest gentlemen you could have ever met. He taught me how to box, and he trained boxers into his 80's. He took "thugs" and turned them into men. I'll never forget one of the first things I ever heard him say. He said "I don't give a SH#T if you lose - Most of you are already losers. I'm going to teach you how to fight, win-or-lose, like a MAN".
He passed away in 1999, and I'll never forget him.
BBCater 4 months ago
Love what you're saying and wholeheartedly behind your cause here.
I do disagree on one thing though, I find a lot of thugs aren't Martial Artists. Hell, they can't even fight, they just instil fear and use aggression and strength towards the innocent or the vulnerable.
Or is that just in Western society? I guess in the east, where the Arts are more commonly used, there may be certain people who abuse their fighting talents. But I can safely say the local skinheads/loudmouths just swing arms.
StadiumHot 4 months ago 3
exactly! With today's laws, thugs just have more power over civilians, because now, people who abide by the laws can't carry weapons, and the thugs still can.
Superduperanimatorz 4 months ago 5
are you jedi or sith basically
Brady2k10 4 months ago 4
go else were :)
hpnetsurfer 4 months ago
I came to see a fight...
kingadaboom 4 months ago
Sir ty for this explanation.and im sure the responses u get are what you were searching for. I see it too. People are confused about what u are saying and will never see it. Martial is the act of killing and art is the ability to hone the temperament to control this skill. Americans now are brain washed by MMA and will never understand what u are talking about.
Byakuya79 4 months ago 2
i completly agree with everything you just said, especially the part about us needing more traditional martial artists with weapons and armour and still not be a thug but an honorable warrior
robsterbot2006 5 months ago
You sir are NOT a martial artist. What training you have? A MARTIAL ARTIST, like Bruce Lee, Saint Pierre ect... train, EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THEIR LIFE! You sire, aren't even in shape! That's like my gun owning ass calling myself and "operator" when only special ops get that designation. I guarantee you, I can kill you with my bare hands... you don't stand a chance, the average THUG in jail is in better shape than YOU, poser... Martial Artist, ha ha... yeah right.
LosAngelesWeedSmoker 5 months ago
@LosAngelesWeedSmoker ur a fuckin idiot m8, and i can tell that by ur username. u would get FUCKED UP! by that guy. you have no respect.
robsterbot2006 5 months ago
@robsterbot2006 he's trying to change the definition of a "martial artist" which is a heavily disciplined fighter and trainer that covers lots of areas of hand on hand combat follows a strict diet and trains every single day that it's possible to train, and he try to change the definition to a person who knows how to control their temper and are quiet? Give me a break.... he's a martial artists, well I'm a war veteran (who never fought a war) simple cause I won a few guns. Look, 'm a NAVY SEAL
LosAngelesWeedSmoker 5 months ago
I think it was the realisation of how easily my master could kill me is what calmed me down in my youth. Looking at him or speaking to him would not give you the impression that he was dangerous and I started to view every person in this way. The other aspect was learning how easily we, as humans, can be hurt. The more ways I learned to hurt people the less aggression I felt. This is the duality of opposites that he kept going on about. It has only taken me 20 years to understand this.
jacksawild 5 months ago 2
@jacksawild
Same here. My master never looked or acted like the kind to do some serious damage. He was always smiling and joking. But man could he hit...I had bruises from him that stayed for at least a week. I felt more confident in myself the longer I studied Martial Arts; not just the fact that I tempered my mind and body, but the fact that I was able to achieve something as difficult as MA made me more confident in what I could do.
Soeisinger 4 months ago
Hi Tsoas, I really appreciate what you're saying I practiced martial arts for long time and I never tried to show my strenghness on the street, even if I was provoked by thugs on the street, I was always able to avoid the fight with the intelligence. One has to avoid teachers that teach to be violent, with the excuse that this martial art or that fighting system is "real". They are BAD teachers. Well done. By the way where are you from? Cheers from Italy
stratovanzo 5 months ago 24
@stratovanzo manchester uk, thank you. I think many people like this vid but some get it wrong. you seem to understand!
TSOAS2008 5 months ago 8
@TSOAS2008 I really like what you're saying here mate. I had been training for well over 8 years before I realised real martial training is about defeating yourself daily; doubt, fear, pride, ego. I feel the hardest battle is retaining perspective and humility in the face of great praise.
TheSulphyr 4 months ago 2
@TSOAS2008 I'm from Manchester too, Blackley :D Where abouts are you from?
petacavanagh 4 months ago
@petacavanagh Hollinwood!
TSOAS2008 4 months ago
@stratovanzo gOOD REACTION, BUT YOU ARE BETTER NOT TRYING TO SHOW SKILLS BECAUSE FACING THREE GUYS A BIT CLEVER WHO MAY HAVE NICE AND YOU ARE LIKELY TO LOOSE.
tWO THINGS TO ILLUSTRATE MY STATMENT, i KNOW ONE GUY WHY WAS EXTREMELY TRINED (INC BLACK BELT KARATE AND HIGH LEVEL OF kRAV, HE WAS PISSED BY THREE GUY AND HE WANTED TO TEACH THEM A LESSON. hO KNOCKED ONE, BUT TOOK A BEATING FROM THE OTHER TWO, RESULTS: A BROKEN JAW THREE RIBS. BESIDE THE KNOCKED ONE TOOK HIM TO COURT AND WON.
joimko2 4 months ago
@joimko2 better you read again what I wrote..I said that the best way on the street is to avoid fighting, I never said that I try to show my skills, where did you read this from me????
stratovanzo 4 months ago 3
@stratovanzo talking like that will only make you sound like a pussy bro. but you are European.
88pie88 4 months ago
@88pie88 Says the pussy with the youtube name pie
BloodCompaction 4 months ago
Thanks, brother.
sekour 5 months ago
Simply stated. Honor is a source item. Honor is given not recived. Thugs give no honor therefore they are without honor. AKA Dishonorable. Honor your society, family and your community and you will be an honorable person.
PsypherDeus 5 months ago
this i 100% agree with you on. no argument between where what or how Ninjutsu or any other form of martial art stemmed from or is practiced. martial arts should be used to protect. not kill. anyone who uses martial arts to kill or purposly goes out of his way to harm another because he's a "martial artist" is a thug. i suppose i strayed from this incident a little in one case as i warned a person i was a martial artist and i would use them on this kid, however, it was also to protect my brother
Breadon92 5 months ago 2
Perfect, and completely true. Best to learn to avoid the fight in the first place than learn to fight. Obviously the latter is important, but usually wont be required.
okalov 6 months ago
Wow this is 100% true. I like how this is explained. I am a martial artist and I've meet thugs like that. What is the debate about TMA and MMA?
Kiryu2011 6 months ago
All in all its the same thing,"Self-Defense". I just crave the day when people will abandon the Love of Power and accept the Power of Love.
LegendarySayayin 6 months ago 3
Martial artists are the nerds of fighting
JJcoll94 6 months ago
@JJcoll94 Trollthug!
outlander271 5 months ago
yeah my friend bobby thow tought me how do mma right now im good..
flufy55 6 months ago
Thumbs up for the tape on his arm!
TheCrazyreid 6 months ago 2
I heard a story once where these 2 martial arts experts were having a drink together and one of them said, "I can kick everyone's ass in this bar." The other martial artist said, "Everyone is this bar is safer, because I'm here."
MrLeicamaster 6 months ago 2
BRAVO. This is the Truth.
Yankeeprepper 6 months ago 2
im still a thug. iv been tring to still my mind for 20 years and it still hasnt happend but im getting better.
MrSaber152 6 months ago
well sad but why whon`t you start a world wide community?
great job greets from holand
tijgerrob 6 months ago
@tijgerrob Have you watched all his video's?
j2091957 6 months ago
@j2091957 not jet why then?
tijgerrob 6 months ago
This is a great video that really sums up what a lot of people are thinking! BUT, i I think thisTMA versus MMA debate that creeps into everything is really sad so I want to make a point. I train in an MMA gym because i love the arts of mauy thai and BJJ and they give great training there, but i also appreciate the lack of attitude or ego there compared to the bujinkan dojo i trained at. A lot of "fans" of mma who like to post on forums give it a bad name.
loxley75 7 months ago 15
@loxley75 agreed, i hate the MMA v TMA argument, that is my point, both need to sort themselves out, MMA people need to understand that take downs and pins and all that will not help when a gand are stamping on your head and TMA need to actually do some training. So i agree 100%, and in real life, its not important, just dont die!
TSOAS2008 7 months ago 3
@TSOAS2008 what? actually train? I think you mean take there art more seriously and dedicate themselves to improving further.
aswjr92 5 months ago
@loxley75 Good comment dude. Humility is important, I think that's something that can lack in certain situations.
Coads301 3 months ago 2
Bruce fuckin Lee is the pinnacle of a Martial Artist. A role model for us all.
BlackDynomight 7 months ago
Great video. I have been watching MMA for awhile and giving attention to how the fighters represent themselves. Those with a Traditional Martial Arts background tend to have a different demeanor than the norm. They are more humble and respectful. Less likely to talk trash and competition means more to them than fighting and beating someone up. There are too many thugs and punks in the sport. Not enough Martial Artists.
MysticNinjaJay 7 months ago 5
@MysticNinjaJay Too many people with egos too. Thats another big problem.
JspecWunda 4 months ago 4
sounds like good kung fu, like IP Man
Christico50 7 months ago
guys listen to someone who has experience in the street like me and they will tell you what works and what wont. like bouncers. by the way dont ask me. lol i might end up getting hate comments from about 100 martial arts fans. so save some energy because you cant argue with experience!
jonboy1028 7 months ago
i trained in taekwon doe and tang soo doe for eleven years and im a second degree blackbelt and i apprecite this video because alot of people who say i am just a thug and it pisses me off hering tht but i hoghly appreciate this video
Thank You
REVA7X1 7 months ago 3
wow this is really great, i was think about practicing hapkido (not sure if i spelled it right). this is actually inspiring thanks man.
W088LEZ 8 months ago 3
I like this video very much! As a kid, I trained Judo for 7 years. Then I stopped, but now I'm gonna do Aikido!
yannbane 8 months ago 5
@yannbane wow, thats great! I hope this vid inspired you to do that? Good luck!
TSOAS2008 8 months ago 2
@TSOAS2008 Wow, an uploader actually replied to my comment! Is it you or someone you know talking in this video? And yes, this was a huge factor in my decision!
yannbane 8 months ago 4
@yannbane yes, its me in the vid. Iget many comments on here, many just opinions, but if it inspired you, then i am mega happy! Have a look around my website for more stuff, free downloads etc for you if you are interested in Japan.
TSOAS2008 8 months ago 4
@TSOAS2008 Wow man this is so cool :D
I'll assume that the link is on your channel, I'm gonna check it out, but yeah I love Japan!
yannbane 8 months ago 6
@yannbane why would u do aikido why not some kyokushin karate or muay thai
arkonastriborg123 8 months ago
@yannbane
No man don't waste your money on aikido!!!
if your a black belt in judo, go do no gi tournaments !! and then go do some striking!
OVERCAPITALIZE 7 months ago
@yannbane Me too! Except I'm doing Kung Fu. I started yesterday and it was awesome. My body is aches now though, but in a good way.
hstray77 7 months ago
Thoog
lesterjames007 8 months ago
I don't know what the Brits consider "thugs", but in the U.S. thugs are NOT tough guys who are "good at what they do". They're cowards. They THINK they're good. They THINK they're tough. They THINK they're strong. However, stand up to them and they almost always back down. You give thugs more credit than they deserve.
seattle0002 9 months ago 4
@seattle0002 thug here is someone who goes round beating people up for no reason.
TSOAS2008 9 months ago 3
@TSOAS2008 You mean the prototypical Chav?
SgtTravisBickle 9 months ago
@SgtTravisBickle yep, good old idiots that wait around to kick people in in the dark, or the lump like guys who use their weight to get what they want. The idiots of society. My point here is that while there are some lovley people in MMA there is no common or moral code, its all about flash. So we need a moral code for kids to enjoy, like in old school TMA.
TSOAS2008 9 months ago
@SgtTravisBickle Well its a tad different from chav, chav is just someone who wants to be hard and acts it, however they usualyl are scared kids who gang up, Thugs are townies people who usually can back up what they say
madmike1 9 months ago
@seattle0002 well my friend youve never met a thug and id be willingy to bet you wouldnt walk up to anyone who claims to be a thug and say anything of that nature your not a very bright person your def no martial artist you just proved that your self
kraizil 8 months ago
There are surely still thugs around today. Both the street kind...but even more important to the every day person in this world of ridiculous corporate/Maritime/Contract laws and money that rules everything... the thugs that dress up in $5000 suits and work on Wall Street, the Federal Reserve and in the halls of power throughout the US and world. They are every bit as ruthless as the street thug, if not more so but 1000's of times more dangerous and have been responsible for all wars in history
JediWitness 9 months ago
Sirry Engrishman! Thug worship Kali and strangr victim and then rob them. Watch Indian Jones and Tempr of Doom!
CHINAisHERE 9 months ago
as one martial artist to another you hit the nail right on the head, my friend. just because a person thinks they know some martial arts doesnt make them a true martial artist.
joes83 10 months ago 2
People don't understand that a true martial art is not just about fighting, it's about improving yourself, establishing peace of mind, and learning to only use violence as a last resort. Self defense is only a small part of what martial arts teaches.
Wieds13 10 months ago 3
@Wieds13 Martial art = Warlike art... Martial = Warlike so... technically war is fighting so the majority of real martial arts would just be fighting
MrBluesTopTen 9 months ago
@MrBluesTopTen That is correct, but because martial arts were so effective, practitioners realized that they must use what they have studied only as a last resort or in times of war. The rigorous training strengthens both the mind and body. Now that hand-to-hand combat is almost obselete, the other things that you learn from it are more important.
Wieds13 9 months ago
welldone and well said ... from martialartist to martialartist :)
mowgdog 10 months ago
Pseudo intellectual rubbish
204sparky 10 months ago
smash him brah!
ilxxage 10 months ago
I have trained in in martial arts for over 47 years and have tough for over 39 years. Its so good to know that there are others out there that believe the same as I do. But I do fine MMA are a entertaining SPORT.
theoldsabertooth 10 months ago 2
23 people are thugs :D
Daavisonfire 10 months ago
MMA fighters or 'MA fighters' as you put it, ARE martial artist's, the sport consists of various different martial arts hence the use of 'mixed', a combination of brazilian jiu jitsu, wrestling (freestyle and greco roman), Muay thai kickboxing to name the predominant arts involved. martial arts fasinate me and ive read books on and follow the virtues of Bushido. your knowledge on MMA is too limited to be able to accuratly judge it, i thought someone of your stature would know better.
pid2299 10 months ago
Alot of what you say is true about thugs in our day and age, but the way in which you talk about MMA fighters is very mistaken and stereotypical. as a mixed martial artist my self i will admit that there are people who enter the sport for social status and an ego boost, but these kinds of people do not last long in our gym and most other gyms and are usually humbled resulting in them leaving or gaining a new respect for martial arts and people in general. continued...
pid2299 10 months ago
Brian Cox called. He wants his voice back.
KingOfTheShrews 10 months ago
@KingOfTheShrews brian cox is scottish and sounds awesome in real life! this guys cooler than coxy though.
yulaw3 10 months ago
@yulaw3
Wrong Brian Cox mate. I mean the Professor Brian Cox, he does loads of shows about space for the BBC, so I guess you are not British. Just search for him on youtube and you will see what I mean about the voice.
KingOfTheShrews 10 months ago
@KingOfTheShrews im not british, im scottish lol sorry for the mix up.yeah i know which cox u mean now.
yulaw3 10 months ago
@yulaw3
Yeah, just a pointer though - Scotland is in Britain.
Also, nationality is a stupid, pointless concept - Scottish, British whatever, it's all inane and meaningless.
KingOfTheShrews 10 months ago
@KingOfTheShrews u wouldnt feel that way if u were scottish, but yeah i get ur meaning.
yulaw3 10 months ago
@KingOfTheShrews Just a pointer for you twat.Scottland is not "in" Britain.It's an entirely different nation.That's like saying China is in Russia just because they're adjacent.The only thing "inane and meaningless" is your ignorant ramblings.
FoulOwl 10 months ago
@FoulOwl
And a couple of pointers for you, you asinine seeping cunt.
Firstly, one 't' in Scotland. If you're gonna write ignorant comments about a place, at least spell it write for fuck's sake.
Secondly, Scotland is a part of Britain, you absolute fucking idiot. Are you American or something? Americans always seem to think England = Britain.
Anyway, England and Scotland border each other; together, with Wales, they form GREAT BRITAIN, shortened to 'Britain'.
You're a fucking embarrassment.
KingOfTheShrews 10 months ago
@KingOfTheShrews lol..."spell it 'write'".At least I only accidently added a T in haste.You dont even know how to spell "right".....and just ask any Scott if they consider themselves British.See what answer you get.I'd just love to break your slack jaw.
FoulOwl 10 months ago
@FoulOwl
Whether they consider themselves British or not is a completely different issue to your geographical fallacy. "Scotland is not in Britain, it is an entirely different nation" is clearly complete and utter bollocks.
And lmfao at the last bit! Why is it that inarticulate nationalist scum like you have to resort to violence even on the internet hahaha? :D It's like me saying I'd love to tear the cunt of your morbidly obese, dirty, haggis-scoffing alcoholic mother. Meaningless. ;)
KingOfTheShrews 10 months ago
interesting, there's always one group of thugs that come to MKA tournaments just to spar and then try to bully kids smaller and weaker than them all they do is train in sparring
chatanwarrior 11 months ago
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"We don't carry weapons but they do"
Speak for yourself Antony! I'm an American and we can carry guns here...and nobody knows when we do...
That said, I agree with most of your distinction.
KidKrav 11 months ago
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"We don't carry weapons but they do"
Speak for yourself Antony! I'm an American and we can carry guns here...and nobody knows when we do...
That said, I agree with moat of your distinction.
KidKrav 11 months ago
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KidKrav 11 months ago
Save yourself 4 and a half minutes and read this first. Guy spent the entire vidoe describing the difference between different types of thugs (martial artist thugs and regular thugs)
clambroth23 11 months ago
I subscribe to one way, Tai Chi. But... I was told by the cops that my way entices confrontation by being passive????????
TheBelldiver 11 months ago
Good lesson! Hmmm I must be a good martial artist
I wish our governments would take your lesson and learn from it.
TheBelldiver 11 months ago
i like this video,goodstuff
pinolero13 11 months ago 2
If you what too talk about rulers or great generals being a ego freak is in the job description. That's apples and oranges, IMO if they were loved or hated depended what side you were on. Name one that wasn't. Am not sure I can.
Argors1 11 months ago
Heh, William the "conquerer" (what a bastard, eh?) qualified as a "thug" in my mind. It's all about perception. This isn't an insult, I like you. Please don't block.
Donatellangelo 11 months ago
@Donatellangelo amazing point! Good thoughts, but i am not saying their were no thugs in the past, i am saying their was a differance between the two.
TSOAS2008 11 months ago
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TSOAS2008, I find a lot of what you say to be interesting and intelligent. However, please know:
1. 'their' means 'that which belongs to them'.
2. 'there' (as a pronoun) is a way of introducing a sentence where the main verb's subject isn't named, or the subject on which it relies is not named.
Your post should read (capitals for emphasis) "Good thoughts, but i am not saying THERE were no thugs in the past, i am saying THERE was a difference between the two."
slapupchrist 11 months ago
I am a 3rd in combat Hapkido an I agree, you do have believe in yourself = ego. That said you also have to have control of your ego. Ego out of control = thug. Thugs don't learn half as much because they think they know it all already. Can a thug beat you sure anyone can be beat at anytime. Fight when you have to not because you can. A thug picks on the weak, a real marshal artist puts themselves between evil and the innocent.
Argors1 11 months ago 2
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@Argors1 "A thug picks on the weak, a real marshal artist puts themselves between evil and the innocent."
Not only that
A thug fights because he wants to fight.
A martial artist fights only when he needs to fight.
Watcher3223 11 months ago
@THEpillows100
You are very nieve to say you can take on 3 people, 13 year old skinny pot mongs yes but not people your own age, the majority of "thugs" around here do train in Boxing or Muay Thai or something to get them a reputation for being "hard". Steroids and gym work is also rife to many are huge.
You could get into a fight with one guy and he gets a lucky hit and puts you out, you can't say you can take on 3 people at once, maybe 2 if the circumstances are right.
djeq721 1 year ago
@djeq721 There ARE people capable of fighting multiple people at once, martial arts don't exist because they look pretty... most of them, anyway.
bushwhacker2k 1 year ago 3
@bushwhacker2k
Yes there are, probably high ranking Aikido experts but at least 50% of martial arts places are McDojos that are awful, TKD, Kuk Sool Won, most karate etc - Can't help you all that much.
djeq721 1 year ago 5
Well worded.
Peekingduck 1 year ago 3
Great video, but the description " how martial artists and cage fighters differs" is not really fair on mma dudes. I personally dislike mma but cage fighters are not ALL thugs, a lot of them COULD be doing with some of the philosophy to keep their egos right. Some dudes are so macho, tough and lack respect and love. When anyone has to act macho or tough its clear to see they have serious issues. I recommend locking them in a shed and giving strong doses of magic mushrooms or ayahuasca. Yeh
Gerazini 1 year ago 4
@Gerazini no, i agree, my main point is that we all need to put a little more respect into our training. The problemis MMA normally teaches the growl and head rip approch. but i do agree with you.
TSOAS2008 1 year ago
16 people are thugs
Gab1n0III 1 year ago 3
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing."
— Robert E. Howard
TwoGunGunnar 1 year ago
Respect man...you know your stuff.
cpnkd7 1 year ago 4
Thugs carry knives and other weapons. Thugs hand around in huge gangs.
A normal, everyday, nice person like myself can train his ass off for as long and as hard as he likes, at the end of the day, 3,4,5+ "thugs" against me, i am going to have my head stomped on. Then lets say i do win, 2 days later, the thugs target my house, family, wife, kids, they come back and knife me or my loved ones, destroy my possessions and generally make my life hell. There is no way normal members of society can win
djeq721 1 year ago
@djeq721. Remember those that live by the sword, die by the sword, also a lot of thugs are young and imature lets see how they handle it when they get older.
j2091957 1 year ago 2
@j2091957
Most around my are in Liverpool are 16 upto about 23, ok so most are either not like that, in prisons or dead by the time they get to 30 / 40 but even so, there is always that younger generation of gangs of these idiots out to make a name for themselves by jumping people like me. There is nothing i can do, short of being permitted to carry a firearm.
djeq721 1 year ago 2
@djeq721 You could train in martial arts to defend yourself. You could learn to control your aggression, yes that means takin it up a few notches when needed. There are all sorts of weapons that do not seem like weapons you can carry as well. If you learn proper martial arts, you can actually defeat 3 assholes with nothing more than a pencil, at least...I have.
UFMD1 1 year ago
@djeq721 Shouldn't you call the police after you win then? That way the thugs will stay behind bars!
chengoo 1 year ago
@djeq721 send ur family somewhere safe that day and wait for them in ur house with a legal gun..in the U.S. if u trespass u get ur brains blown out..
joshuadelapenha 1 year ago
@djeq721
Normal members of society HAVE won, & we won a long, long time ago. Normal, non-thuggish people CREATED civilization - it was the normal people who banded together, organized, and formulated codes of conduct and the means to control and punish the Thugs in your hypothetical example. The people who stomp your head in & knife your family are (usually) going to wind up jailed & executed at the hands of OUR paid enforcers of non-thuggishness (police & courts) if they behave that way.
TwoGunGunnar 1 year ago