Tibet: The Truth (oppression, monks, nuns... you're wrong)

[iamlondon]

Tibetan language is separate, Tibetan genetics are totally separate, Tibetan culture and religion are also fundamentally different. The sum? Tibet is clearly an entirely separate nation based on definable differences which has a right to freedom. Do the Germans have a right to rule France just because both nations are on the same continent??!! No! So where is the difference here?!

Free Tibet.

[minborox]

multiculturism is always a good thing in any country. do respect that, man

[LeThoem]

@minborox

you're absolutely right!

[LeThoem]

@iamlondon

What the fuck, you talk about genetics? There are no races, don't believe that nazi-shit. China is not one etnic groups, it's 56! a Nationality has nothing to do with the genetics, it has to do with history! this video shows the truth! long live the chinese communist government!

[forevermoon2129]

Its interesting to note that he points out the oppression of Tibetan people by their ruling class but omits the very long history of China with its dynasties and that of Europe. This video is just trying to demonise Tibet by focusing on some negatives,it would make us believe that everyone was desperately unhappy before CCP came to liberate. The truth is always somewhere in the middle.

In any case it is HIS interpretation of the facts

[forevermoon2129]

Response to your claim that this video "whon't see in western media?" who are you kidding?

We have someting called freedom of expression.The man in this video is also from the West, do you see him being thrown into prison for his views?The worst that will ever happen to him is that some people will disagree with him.

this information along with other views is freely available and you don't have to look far for all those who are interested. Nobody is censored for their political opinions.

[Emi916]

The Dalai Lama eats meat?

He eats VEAL????

Are you kidding me?????????? Get real.

[sufeisophia]

yes, he has mistresses as well!

[Popajaja]

Free serfs !!!

A certificate, written in the old form of the Tibetan language, used before 1959 and kept as No MC 1015 File at the Archives of the Nationalities Cultural Palace, reads: "Being unable to pay back the money and grain we owe Nedong Dekhang, we, Tsewang Rabten and my wife, serfs of the Dusong Manor, must give up our daughter Gensong Tonten and younger son Padma Tenzin to Dekhang to repay the debts. The descendents of their son and daughter will be Dekhang's serfs."

[johnyulei]

dear Mr. cmforum, thanks for your video.I am much appreciate that you are standing up for my people. the statement is quite clear and correct.

[AlexanderThe6Great9]

NEW YORK TIMES: Dalai Lama Group Says It Got Money From C.I.A.

The Dalai Lama's administration acknowledged today that it received $1.7 million a year in the 1960's from the Central Intelligence Agency, but denied reports that the Tibetan leader benefited personally from an annual subsidy of $180,000.

The money allocated for the resistance movement was spent on training volunteers and paying for guerrilla operations against the Chinese, the Tibetan government-in-exile said in a statement.

[Verfallsdatum]

"many" vague and unsupported claims in this video! And this is all too close to the official version from the Chinese government to be trusted. Actually, I bet that most of the content of the video is from official governmental sources.

And this "Caste" argument is just a propaganda crap. Fact is that there are much less inequalities in India than in China (check the Gini index on wikipedia for example).

[blipbaii]

your retarded Verfallsdatum, then tell me if this is unsopported claims, then what about the lies that the media gives? what kind of bullshit claim do they give? oh wait just because the media talks like a professional, you guys believe them. Your a dumbass

[Darjmanchee]

Maybe you need little more research than just talking nonsense. Go to any so called "democratic" country and you will see the "caste system"  if you don't beleive me tell me what does "blue colar" means :) It might not be said out loud but it still exist in any part of the world.

I thought you know what you are talking about when I first saw your video but sheesh you are reading it. lol PATHETIC!!

[blue20009]

this guy is saying something truth, unfortunately, most westerners just simply do not like to see things like this, they are satisfied as long as china is being criticised. i have to say some of the things he said over-glorified china but bottom line is tibet is getting better.

[Popajaja]

Before 1951, Tibet was under a feudal serfdom characterized by the dictatorship of upper-class monks and nobles. The feudal lords who constituted only five percent of the population possessed 95 percent of the means of production. Tibet serfs were even more miserable than the black slaves in the United States before the civil war.

[patrickmahoney]

yeah, "the truth is not to be found in a television broadcast" indeed.

I hate to say it folks, but this guy is one of those "paid" off academic hacks the Chinese Central Govt "promotes" as experts. When In Nepal and China,I saw textbooks written by these kind of guys.Basically,failures in their own countries,and looking for credibility/self-promotion through "exposing history". They carefully mis-construe, and mis-represent everything to fit a script.Key words jump out,when you listen to them

[blipbaii]

your retarded patrickmahoney, if you dont believe the truth then tell me, what makes you believe the lies?

[magnietuit]

read this book: The Snow Lion and the Dragon: China, Tibet, and the Dalai Lama

Written by dr. goldstein, the world known tibet expert, spending almost all his lifetime research on tibet.

Amazon sells this book for 15$

his research may have all you free-tibet fans shocked

[infundadiform]

i saw this propanganda shit on cctv. china run by thugs who love power and are corrupt to their souls.they are not even communist anymore. greed rules china now. but most people thier live in poverty and the gov. wishes they would just go away. REMEMBER TAINANMEN SQAURE AND THE SLAUGHTERED.

[jkl1234567890]

The last comment of the man in the video is very ironic.

[blipbaii]

it is not ironic, the truth is not be found in a television, television is a 24 7 money making machine, dumbfuck.

[molecularash]

as much as i agree with many of the facts stated here, and as much as i hate many of the laughably uninformed pro-tibet protesters, i must also state that i hate people who act as spineless mouthpieces for governmental propaganda. this video portrays the central government as a shining beacon of progress and a friend to the common people even though it's oppressive regime has stifled the rights of those same people since it's inception.

[newties21]

molecularash: No you are very wrong. These people are not spineless mouthpieces for governmental propaganda. It is very interesting when I see information coming from FTM, it is lapped up and swallowed in whole, while information correcting them is deemed and labeled as propaganda. It makes no sense to me.

With regards to government, trust me Chinese government is improving, maybe even better in future.

[molecularash]

perhaps you didn't read my original post as carefully as you should have.

[infundadiform]

BULLSHIT, so why is it installing facial recognition software on its cameras throughtout the cities. if it wanted to let people be free it would just let them. they just do not want to give up the power. the corruption is going to bring the dictatorship of thugs to its knees.

[blipbaii]

did you know that ever since china install those cameras, rape and crimes has decrease drastically? not only china but USA and even europe uses those cameras as well

[patrickmahoney]

Molecularash, U R right....this "newties21" guy is a propagandist himself who tries to discount my fact based videos.

This supposed "expert" is like a few academics who China periodically "buys off" with unlimited sex, and the "expert title"...they are the worse kind of whores.

Some of his facts are correct, but are skillfully twisted. Tibetans are not any different than other peoples, except stronger..they made mistakes,but this guy is using standard China Govt propaganda terms.

[avntz1]

Tibet is not china.

china is not Tibet.

Free Tibet.

[demonwx10]

this man speaks the truth

[yytuber]

your mother asshole is next!

[killchina]

so what about the FA LUNG GONG ORGAN SALES, TIANAN MAN MASSACRE, ALL THE SLAUGHTERS OF TIBETAN PPL,,YOU DIDNT EVEN MENTION SOME OF THESE..GUESS UVE GOT SOME POCKET MONEY.

[UmofoN]

REad the Title dumbass. "Tibet: The Truth (oppression, monks, nuns... you're wrong)"

[TheLogicJunkie]

What a great video. Thanks for posting it...

I will email this link to the people I know.

[smartbabe]

it's funny that tags are mostly in Japanese and English

[ogami72]

China is not without it's share of human rights abuse,but I still think the Dali Lamma just wants all his shit back.I also agree that the Olympics should not be the place to protest the politics of the host country.

[brumaleon]

/watch?v=FJFwcaFs-Bs

[middle59path]

Chris D. Nebe's close connection with PRC.

On Jan. 8th, 2006 Nebe was appointed the Int'l Business Advisor to YUNNAN TV in Kunming, Yunnan Province, China.

On Sept 1, 2006 Nebe was appointed the Int'l Business Advisor to the Info. Office of the PRC in Qinghai Province.

On January 8, 2007 Mr. Nebe was appointed Int'l Business Advisor to the Info. Office of the Provincial Govt. of Xinjiang and Xinjiang Electronic Media in the PRC, China.

Chris Nebe keep making money.

[080808doom]

hey buddy..at first i thought u were reading something quiet good but later it all changed...i think u don't have any clue about wat u r reading about huh...i think u have never learn "little knowledge is dangerous" huh....any doubt reply me o.k.

[zhang570]

Over the past couple weeks, I have really witnessed the so-called 'freedom-of-speech' of the western media. I thought the communists are pretty good at brainwashing their people, but now I am more impressed at how the western media do this in a much smarter and softer way. Let's bury the truth and let the brainwashed cattle run!

[icewine000000]

Good Video, for people who don't know this part of history, can read the book - " The Rise of Modern China. (Sixth Edition)" You can buy this book in book stores or in university stores. It is an elective course in many Canadian universities.

[pcc68]

Clearly this man is doing the Chinese government's bidding. By describing China as a developing nation, he is giving them license to "work out their problems" while they commit cultural genocide. By the time they advance enough to be held responsible for their actions, they will have succeeded in their program of forced assimilation of ethnic minorities.

[UmofoN]

He looks like Chinese too. He probably kill and raped monks. LMAO

[azaza618]

you think that's funny? you have a bad sense of humor, no offence.

[yytuber]

i bet your mother looks very sexy. i'd like to do her!

[UmofoN]

you just too stupid for sex. Ask your mother to teach you first. Dumbass chink walk right into it. Bwahhahahaha

[yytuber]

hey my son, your mother enjoyed having her asshole V_I_O_L_A_T_E_D. call me daddy!

[UmofoN]

You sure got a imagination, chink. Got fuck in the head by your daddy? YOur dick are too small to violate anything. LOLZ I"m sorry that the truth. Your slanted eye mom probably said I love you long time doesn't she? LOL

Look in my profile sensitive chink. Everyone know I'm on the Chinese side except a sensitive chink like you that can't tell the different between joke and seriousness. Owned..LOL

[yytuber]

your mama not only had her loose butthole V__I__O__L__A__T__E__D, her breath reeked of my cum. please tell your mama to rinse her mouth often or else i'd just do the butthole next time.

thanks son.

p.s. your mama is knows what she's doing!

[UmofoN]

Like I say you dick are too small to violate anything, chink. Ask your slanted eye mom to give you a blowjob so you won't be so stupid on the internet. Now please go back to the room and make me a shoe, trash.I love you long time.Bwahahahahhahahahaha

[kevindolan40]

well said

[tenzingjigme]

Thank you so much for lettin the world know the truth........... Please for all the chinese people also that, try to open your eye and try to visilize the truth. We are nothing do with chinese poeple but govt. Its doing unfair not only to the tibetan but its own people.

[peels1547]

Thank Monarex for revealing the truth!

[Theo182]

Yes... Lies, just like how Saddam possessed WMDs right? Oh wait...

Fucking Yanks.

[Popajaja]

God bless Monarex!

[Popajaja]

Another voice from America. One of the best Youtube video about Tibet ever.

Thank you Monarex!

[opichak]

Funny - popajaja joined April 9th 2008. One of those famed Chinese internet police maybe ??? From Switzerland - I don't think so.

[USN288]

this is what we learn in American Schools in the history Classes, Also inthe textbooks used in the British Commonwealth of Nations

[bigtisas]

Finally, someone logically look at Tibet and her history.  Thank God.

[chinorri84]

At first shoot it almost looks real... Anyhow the whole world is not so innocent to that shamed and unsure PROPAGANDA.

[opichak]

Mr Nebe, as an experienced film maker, would know better than to read, approx 3mins in, an obviously prepared statement in such an unprofessional way. This is a prime example of state propaganda and has little to do with the reality of Tibet's history and more to do with how the amazing China has 'Liberated' a 'backwards' people and brought it into the 20th century with all the benefits, environmental pollution being one.

[opichak]

Would Mr Chris Nebe still have his jobs with the various parts of the Chinese Government if he told the truth about the reality inside Tibet. Have a look at his own website monarex . com and the about us page, for the jobs he has in China.

[yujiunan]

Would it be more fair to listen the BBC and CNN of the "Turth". or a westerner who have never been to China. Quote from the end of the video, "Turth can be found from History not from Media."

[jeffreebenet]

As for that quote at the end, Chinese don't even know their own REAL history. You can thank commie education for that. Like in the Quotations from Chairman Mao, the Mao zhuxi yulu (毛主席语录) "Everything that Mao Zedong says is the truth; every statement he utters is worth 10,000 sentences."

So much of the real history of China was wiped away by communist propagandist, and you know it.

[yujiunan]

History can't be wiped away as you said. You are responsable to find it out for yourself. Chairman Mao, the Mao zhuxi yulu (毛主席语录) is not the common value of China anymore. your Quotations are so outdated. Wounder when were you in China.

[jeffreebenet]

I'm in China right now, been in asia since 2002. As for non Han Chinese, there is The major minority ethnic groups are Zhuang (16.1 million), Manchu (10.6 million), Hui (9.8 million), Miao (8.9 million), Uyghur (8.3 million), Tujia (8 million), Yi (7.7 million), Mongol (5.8 million), Tibetan (5.4 million), Buyei (2.9 million), Dong (2.9 million), Yao (2.6 million), Korean (1.9 million), Bai (1.8 million), Hani (1.4 million), Kazakh (1.2 million), Li (1.2 million), and Dai (1.1 million).

[opichak]

I, surprisingly. would agree with that end comment. I also agree that we can not find the 'whole truth' from any one source, truth is dependent on your viewpoint. Would I trust CNN or SKYnews or any other commercial media totally, NO I wouldn't. The BBC is a different matter, it is not privately financed.

Can you trust Chinese state controlled media to tell you the truth? We outside China see that you are only told what they want i.e. nothing that contradicts their version of the 'truth'.

[opichak]

An entertaining farce, we in free societies are a little more educated than to swallow the message in this video. Reminiscent of Goebbels work.

[jeffreebenet]

My wife, from Beijing and very proud to be Chinese, told me that even though she has a Han last name, they were from the north west and had to adopt a Han surname for political reasons during the revolution.

If Tibet was a vassal state in the past and that is the justification of it belonging to Communist China today, when does Vietnam, Thailand, and the other southern countries get invaded?

After all, 50 years ago, they were backwards too...

[jeffreebenet]

Excellent use of vintage communist Chinese propaganda films and ideology! Hopefully soon all the peoples under the communist dikate will be assimilated to the Mandarin Han way of life and language... anything else is just uncivilised!

You know why 90% of people in China identify as Han? Because those that didn't were disproportionally killed during the communist purges.

[yujiunan]

Shame on you, where is this idea come from? Prove the words you are putting here? Vilification on Chinese, only shows your nescience!

[jeffreebenet]

I love China and live and work here. You know as well as I do about Han arrogance, that Han IS chinese. But that is simply not true, which is why only half the country even speaks Mandarin... I need no more proof of Han arrogance than your posting mr Yu.

[yujiunan]

Yes, You are right! Tibetan is Chinese too. Where did you again get this statistic? What the rest half speak? Language skill is just a tool, like you seems to speak or Understand some Chinese too, but You are not a Chinese.

[jeffreebenet]

According to wikipedia: "There is substantial genetic, linguistic, cultural and social diversity between the various subgroups of the Han, mainly due to thousands of years of assimilation of various regional ethnicities" this is because either you assimilate to he Han Chinese way or you die.

[0legendray0]

Tibetans are Chinese!!!we are family! The former slaveholders go to hell!!! Dalai Lama goes to hell!!!

[0legendray0]

Western media, liar! Always used someone said or heard form someone, but can't show any proof. Prejudged before know fact, Shameless  on you, liar!!!

[0legendray0]

I hope it will wake up some people that yelling for human rights won't make them heros. however, it will never be easy, because the "evil China" view is deeply rooted in most westeners' mind.

[0legendray0]

It is the truth about Tibet. However, the former slave owners are trying hard to deny it. That is because they want to be slave owners again.

[0legendray0]

Splendid Video!

Completely, I couldn't understand that how the Dalai Lama could be taken as a signal of human rights. Do U guys that stand for him know what did in Tibet while he was the governor? He enslaved his people and have his own privilege to treat his slaves due to his wills such as cutting off the arms and eyes of the slaves who resisted against his commands. Peace, human rights, from a slave master? Funny irony.

[0legendray0]

Splendid Video!

Completely, I couldn't understand that how the Dalai Lama could be taken as a signal of human rights. Do U guys that stand for him know what did in Tibet while he was the governor? He enslaved his people and have his own privilege to treat his slaves due to his wills such as cutting off the arms and eyes of the slaves who resisted against his commands. Peace, human rights, from a

[ld871111]

All the hate towards China recently only managed to give the communist government more support from the Chinese people. Good job hippies, you managed to rally the Chinese.

[PabloAM1974]

LOL. So anyone trying to enlighten you with something Dalai Lama doesn't want you to know must be lying.

Btw why don't you stupid high school American kids go find a job instead of playing on your mommy's computer, while she works her ass off so you can buy your Chinese-made pants from Walmart.

[slothvader]

oh, in case anyone's listening? that moron is also a liar, over and over again.

if you're a holocaust denier, you'll find a fellow traveller with this idiot.

alzheimer's sucks, don't it? well, holocaust denial, and similar, sucks worse.

remember that.

the butchers of beijing, murderers of the goddess of democracy (tienanmen, beijing, 1989) thank you for your inattention.

[ethanngo11]

Why are you calling him a liar? It is obvious you have not studied any Chinese history.

[slothvader]

um, it's rather plain that anyone who swallows the falsities of the thugocracy in beijing is more than a little historically challenged.

tibet should be free.

[ethanngo11]

its theocracy you dumb ass......there's no point arguing with a person who relies on the western media to gain knowledge rather than history books.......read before you talk

[slothvader]

the dalai lama is on record as being for the separation of church and state. you really should try to keep up and not believe all the lies you're fed.

[slothvader]

what. a. tool.

this guy might have a great future in holocaust denial 'documentaries'.

[nickel5online]

Long live Tibet!

Mr. Nebe, paid of gov, NO!

Is a International Business Advisor to the Information Office of the Provincial Government of Xinjiang and Xinjiang Electronic Media in the People's Republic of China.

Free Tibet!

[damingli85]

Long Live China, I am willing to bet that people will post here and say that guy is paid by the government. But I love it, the truth is beautiful.