@getdownto311 Mormons are certainly not Christian, they believe in multiple Gods. They are polytheistic actually, believing that we can become Gods, there are infinite Gods, and that there are Goddesses. That is not Christian. They have their own beliefs that do not fit into any other category, they're Mormons, which is technically a cult.
@burtontoker pastor Jeffress is that you? so we dont fit YOUR definition?,yeah spare me the cult arguement,im sorry we dont fit your definition of a christian,not up to you who is a chrisitian and who isnt,mormons are certainly christian in every sence of the word,more christian than you could ever be! what you said about the mormons was anything but christian have a nice day chump!
@getdownto311 HAHAHA MORMONS ARE CHRISTIAN? Your IGNORANCE amazes me. To be a Christian you have to believe Jesus IS God, and that he is the ONLY God, and that he is GOD IN FLESH. Mormons believe in multiple Gods and Goddesses. Jesus says, "I am the LORD, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God." Isaiah 45:5-6. It isn't MY definition, thats what the BIBLE SAYS! MORMONS ARE MORE CHRISTIAN THAN CHRISTIANS? BAHAHAHAH. Mormons ARE NOT Christians.
@burtontoker so laughing at us and making us makes you a saint??,your god is unknown as paul describes it,your is mysterious,hateful,intollerable,schizophrenic,and last but not least unbiblical,your an idiot!.
@getdownto311 You're not Christian. You believe in multiple Gods, and deny that Jesus IS God IN flesh. You believe Jesus is the ruler of earth, NOT God. Christian doctrine states you need to believe Jesus IS God to be a Christian, and hold the belief that there is only ONE God. Mormonism doesn't, Mormonism denies this, and they believe that God has a spirit wife, and that God came down in a physical body to impregnate marry and create Jesus. I'm sorry, but that's NOT Christian.
@getdownto311 There are many gods (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163). THATS WHAT MORMON DOCTRINE SAYS. "I am the LORD, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God." Isaiah 45:5-6. THATS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS. OOPS, you're not a Christian! Bahhaahha you know NOTHING about the Bible, and you know NOTHING about Christianity. Mormons are in NO WAY Christian.
@getdownto311 Oh my Lord, you don't have to have any authority to KNOW CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE. ANYONE can read the bible and INTERPRET IT, YOUR BELIEFS ARE NOT BIBLICAL YOU IDIOT. Christian doctrine states there is only ONE GOD, and that JESUS IS GOD. Mormon doctrine states there are many Gods and that Jesus is NOT THE ONLY GOD. You have NO idea what you're talking about you MORON. I'm IGNORANT? I KNOW YOUR MORMON BELIEFS BETTER THAN YOU DO! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@burtontoker you know my beliefs better than me? haha your such a freaking retard everybody on here know that you are damn! you sound sooo tough on the internet,if you really knew what we believe....it was never in lds doctorine that god impregnated mary we dont believe that god has a wife,i know that you smoke alot of weed and have a menntal handicap...so it figures
@getdownto311 I do know your beliefs better than you, and I am clearly more educated than you. You can't even type a rational, logical sentence defending your crazy doctrine. You do believe God has a wife, you believe there is a Goddess, and that if you're a good Mormon you can become a God. Want me to prove your own beliefs to you? Looks like I'm going to have to, you uneducated fool.
@getdownto311 After you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345-347, 354). There are many gods (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163). After you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345-347, 354). The Devil was born as a spirit after Jesus "in the morning of pre-existence," (Mormon Doctrine, p. 192).
@getdownto311 There is no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of God (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p. 188). here is a mother god (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 443). God is married to his goddess wife and has spirit children (Mormon Doctrine, p. 516). "The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as mans..." (D&C 130:22). YOU GOT OWNED UNEDUCATED MORMON, YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN, GET OVER IT. IF YOU WANT TO BE CHRISTIAN, LEAVE MORMONISM.
@burtontoker love the chery picked quote that you came up with,your a pathetic excuse for a "christian" going around bashing other peoples faiths beacause we dont believe in your watered down christianity,nope im christian get over and get over yourself freakin stupid ass!
@getdownto311 HAHAHAHA Cherry picked quote? WOW, that is great. You are not a Christian and Mormons aren't, I just proved how you aren't. Christian theology - which you clearly lack any understanding of - isn't that difficult. Jesus is GOD, IN FLESH, and is the ONLY GOD. Mormons DENY THIS, therefore they are not Christians. Have a good night being an idiot Mormon, I hope your magic underwear is tight, HAHAHAHAHAHHA DUMBASS MORMON! BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@getdownto311 I'm the ignorant one? I owned you pal, you clearly fail at knowing your own religions doctrine. You're brainwashed, and its pathetic. I hope your magic underwear protects you, LOL. Mormons are idiots, and can't think for themselves, you're just more proof of that. Thanks.
@getdownto311 I'm not trying to feel big and cool, I just disproved your entire phony religion in three paragraphs, and obviously you lack the ability to defend your doctrine. I'd be embarrassed if I was you too, so don't feel bad. If you did know your doctrine you could type an intellectual response, but clearly you can't, you'd just look like more of a fool trying to prove a false cult like Mormonism true so its ok.
@burtontoker i know the doctorine better than you can,obviously you have demonstrated piss poor learning skills here,you can bad mouth my faith my leaders all you want,doesnt make it untrue.......just shows how insecure you are in your faith since you focus so much on tearing down a religion instead of preaching about christ,its rediculous how you can think that you know my religion better than i do when you havnt even given me a lick of what we believe nothing but falsehoods and rumors your on.
@getdownto311 There are many gods (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163). Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers and we were all born as siblings in heaven to them both, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163.) God is married to his goddess wife and has spirit children (Mormon Doctrine, p. 516). The first spirit to be born in heaven was Jesus (Mormon Doctrine, p. 129).
@burtontoker oo the book of moron? really your going to rever to that?,mormon doctorine is not official church doctorine,and learn to type and lay off the weed its not making you any more intelligent.
@getdownto311 I posted your doctrine lol. Learn to type? I'm the ony using proper grammar. Lay of the weed? I use cannabis for MS, you ignorant fuck. You're the dumbest mother fucker I've ever talked to, you're pathetic and know nothing about religion.
@burtontoker bullshit you dont have ms you liar! your channel is full of stoners like you,i know more about religion you could ever even imagine,yeah resort to name calling because you dont get your way you big baby!
@burtontoker so your obsession with the mormon church is quite disturbing,do you really believe in christ? saying that you believe in him is one thing ,i can tell through comments that you dont have him,intellectual response all you have done is call me names and laugh and make fun of my faith,hypocrite much? so your not exactly having an intellectual debate either,your not as bright as you think you are
I notice a link from this same webpage as the others. Seems like a mass advertising joke. What church is truely linked to that website? After hearing that one lady's story I had to call BS. It had so many loopholes in it. I think this anti-Mormon webcam fling is just a coordinated effort pushed by the site. I can make a video right now stating that I left the scientology cult, and there's no substance to my claim. However if I start linking my WEBSITE, then I now have a motive for the video.
Thank you so much for honestly sharing your feelings. What is the truth. Hell, I don't know. I guess I will have to wait until this body dies to find out. May your God bless you, whoever He or She is.
Glad to see you've found your way to truth and out of the Mormon Cult. I've got videos addressing Mormonism and how it's false you should check them out, keep up the great vids!
Actually, you were probably surrounded by people wearing them but never noticed since they are a secret and worn underneath their clothes.Everyone who was sealed in the Temple and still faithful were wearing garments. Everyone who served a mission and is still faithful was wearing them.I just posted a video about "Garments" so you can learn about them.I also posted a recording of the Endowment ceremony on my channel.They are worn after one is Endowed
@flyinkauaiian Maybe you're not easily fooled, but you've absolutely been fooled by Mormons pretending to be Christians. They use the right terms and they behave in a way that appears to be Christian, but that's where the similarities end.
The jesus of Mormonism is a weak, impotent little god born of incest who has almost nothing to do with the Mormon concept of salvation and I hope you realize that some day.
@Voltaire7 That was a loaded question, and you played right into her hands in answering no. The fact is that the main driving force and the central tenet of Mormonism is the attaining of exaltation and godhood, something that's not Biblical and therefore not Christian.
She probably took that as a small victory and satidfied herself that your leaving the church was the result of your not having followed the church's rules, thereby strengthening her own faith in the false LDS church.
@mollymu1 Do U live the standards of Mormonism? Jesus taught us that we R not to judge others lest we be judged. This actually is talking more about condemning than judging. R U hoping that U R enough better, than enough other people that God will ignore all of your sins, & welcome U into heaven? The Bible makes it very clear that anyone claiming to B without sin is a liar 1 John 1:8-10 Revelation 21:8 says all liars will have their part in the lake of fire. Jesus is the total Way. Read John 3.
@1stcorinthians1vrs18 The Biblical Jesus taught us to judge righteously, whereas the Mormon jesus is just an awkward, ill-fitting product of incest that is nothing more than a sideshow barker for exaltation.
It's also funny that you quote the Bible when we both know you don't actually accept it as fact, but instead, use it to prove your own point, and nothing more.
@moparmonster1965 I Most assuredly accept the Bible as not only fact, but what it declares itself to be. The word of God. Jesus declared that He is the way to heaven. The whole Bible indicates that that is the case. Isaiah 53 43:10,11 John 3 etc. If I have a point that cannot be supported by the Bible, it would be a nearly useless opinion, of no more value than anyone elses opinions. The Bible has not been corrupted. It can and should be fully trusted. You can read nearly any english translation
@moparmonster1965 ok. I was born & raised a Mormon, & have read all Mormon "scripture" which is fraud, nonsense, & Joseph Smiths imagination, mixed with twisted plagiarisms from the Bible, & brainwashing verses, which try 2 condemn people if they reject the lies that Mormonism declares 2B scripture. I now after years of sorting through the lies I was taught, believe the Bible 2B the uncorrupted word of God, that Satan has been attacking since Genesis 3:1. Mormonism is the original lie repackaged
@1stcorinthians1vrs18 I agree with you on almost all points, but would like to ask you this: could God not work through Mormonism if He so chose? I ask because I don't believe that all Mormons automatically go to Hell for following a false gospel any more than I believe Catholics are doomed to the same fate (I was raised strict RCC).
@moparmonster1965 God causes all things to work together 4 good Romans 8:28. Religion of any kind cannot save us, only God can John 14:6 3:18,36. If we R trusting in ourselves or our good works to get us into heaven, we will go to hell because Romans 3:236:23 all have sinned, the wages of our sin is death. Only the blood of Christ can remove our sins, if our sins have been removed by His blood, we will go to Heaven, by grace through faith, no matter what religion we may or may not be a part of.
@1stcorinthians1vrs18 I agree on all points but let me ask you this: is baptism required for salvation? It's a constant through all Judeo-Christian religions.
@moparmonster1965 No, not at all. Baptism is symbolic. 4 a person who is saved, 2B baptized is a testimony 2 those watching that they have been born again & R living 4 Christ. 4 anyone else 2B baptized, they are just getting wet. Salvation comes at the moment a person puts their faith in God(Jesus Christ) for salvation. John 3:18,36 he that has the Son has life, he that does not have the Son, the wrath of God abides on him. A genuine baptism comes after salvation, but does not help save at all.
@1stcorinthians1vrs18 I'm impressed; you know your stuff. Most people don't understand the question, much less the answer. I was ready to point out that the three lepers, the woman who touched Jesus' robe, and the thief next to Him were all declared by the savior to have been saved without benefit of water baptism.
@moparmonster1965 Thank you. Growing up as a Mormon, I was thoroughly brainwashed into that belief system. Once I started to see that it might be wrong, I had to finally come to a point where I had to question everything. Because I came to see that pretty much everything I had ever believed was a lie. After I came to realize that the Bible can be trusted, I had a lot of serious studying of it to do also. We can never be in the Bible too much.
Growing up strict RCC, I find many idolatrous things in it, like parying to Mary and the saints, the Rosary, and then other problems like the concepts of Purgatory and Transubstantiation, too. I also find that long-time Catholic traditions like having a statue of Mary in the garden (usually roses) is a carry-over from goddess worship (Isis and a Greek goddess whose name I can't remember right now) because their symbols were roses.
@1stcorinthians1vrs18 I agree here, too, but want to ask you this question: how do certain changes, like William Tindale's addition of the words "And lead us not into temptation" to the Lord's Prayer jibe with the original matierial in which it wasn't found?
@moparmonster1965 I'm affraid that I am not nearly a good enough scholar to give a proper answer to that question. I cannot read Greek or Hebrew, I have not studied too carefully William Tyndale either. From what I have watched about his life, I would not think he would be lightly adding anything to, or taking anything away from the word of God. If he did add those words in, my guess would be that perhaps he was trying to clarify deliver us from evil, but I really do not know.
I've learned that what I know is dwarfed by what I don't know and that sort of sucks, but it shows that I have a long way to go.
And I simply asked because it brings up a good point that Mormons will sometimes cite in the differences between Biblical editions and versions, to which I don't have a good answer either.
@1stcorinthians1vrs18 I can respect that. You've truly left the LDS because when you ask an apologist a question that they don't know the answer to, they'll tend to make it up as they go along, but almost never say that they don't know.
@JSeely218 that is not true at all... you just haven't put any effort into learning and understanding the gospel. I'm very happy to be a member. if you decide not to put in any effort, have fun with the rest of your life.... and it's not "Mormonism" it's called The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
@cake10 what gospel? the lds church does have the fullness of the gospel of jesus christ, becuz it teaches a different jesus christ! you mormons need help!
@cake10 And just because it misuses the name of Christ actually doesn't mean anything at all. But since you think it does, can you tell me who the church was of from 1834-1838 when the name of Christ wasn't it in at all?
@Voltaire7 , of curse you are not ...but as an informant of this matter you are not good as well, I'm sorry i don't see the point of attacking other religions beliefs if your experience was bad,and miserable that doesn't mean everybody is going to have the same experience, I'm not defending anyone i just think that everybody's religion is personal and should be respected, running your mouth isn't going to help anyone. Read you own comments and think about yourself what kind of person you are.
Remember that Christ said that he that believes and is baptized shall be saved. Mark 16:16 and Peter instructed the believers to repent, be baptized by immersion for the remission of sins and then receive the Gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38 This poor girl had done those things. Maybe she didn't understand. Now the desires of the flesh are more important to her. She wants to align herself with Satan and remove all connection to Christ.
So just to clarify to all the poor deceived people out there. Nobody RESIGNS from the LDS church unless they work for the Church as a secretary or computer programmer or something. This girl does not or did not work for the church. What she is doing is requesting that her name is REMOVED from the records of the CHURCH of JESUS CHRIST so that her baptism and confirmation is CANCELLED out.
@TheColgrove4 Are you really that gullible? You don't have to resign to leave the church. In fact there is no such thing as resigning from the LDS church. The problem is is that Satan is never happy with you just not going back to the LDS church. He wants your soul. He wants to cancel out any connection you have with Christ and so he demands that you have your name REMOVED from the Church of Jesus Christ so he can claim you as his own.
“But even if we or an angel from heaven (moroni) should preach to you a gospel other than what we have preached to you, curse be on him!” Galatians 1:6-9 Mormon’s are not prepared for the coming apocalypse, Huge Sorrow will be to the mormon who refuse to see the truth, You have been warned your fall will be great. Read the BIBLE ONLY!
How old are you? Why would you make such a big decision when you have practically no life experience? Maybe search your heart? And see who YOU are and not your atheist friends and boyfriend. Heavenly father will be there whenever you are ready.
I love how you assume life experience by my appearance, and that's all I'll say about that. I didn't make this decision lightly, in fact, it took me the better part of about five years to sort what I believed and didn't believe, there was much heart-searching, but more than that, there was brain searching and using my logic. I have few atheist friends, and many of the friends I have now I didn't have when I started using my brain about religion (not only mormonism).
@proudtobeLDS26 the CULT are a bunch of RACISTS (fact) and it seems highly unmoral in their behaviour, if you're statement is anything to go by, but if youre religion makes you a better person, then go for it.
@BlissfulHeretic yes but the trouble with accepting logic is that we become emotionless beings that do not believe in ANYTHING. and yes, there are extremes in rejecting logic, for instance, your purple sky scenario. but i do believe people, like myself, are able to put limits on their rejection of common sense
@ZandRTheFlop I Challenge you to read the Book of Mormon, ACTUALLY read it, then message me back on why it is Illogical. I am curious of your opinion. Thank you.
@proudtobeLDS26 Very mature. If I were Mormon, I would leave just because of you. However, I'm having too many issues with my current church to worry about a problem such as you.
Great video. I had a similar experience in my life. Long story short my life has never been better. It takes a lot of courage and it can be hard on your family and what not, but if you are cool and respectful your family will still love you (and im sure they do). You and I are fortunate that we found this out so early in our lives before it was too late (ie serving a mission, temple marriage). Everyday has been a blessing since I left. In the name of Jesus Christ, amen, (ha)
@Voltaire7 See thats been my point to other LDS.When they cant come back at someone with script or doctrinal things to back up there beliefs they do personal attacks (nixmix24) they just cant handle people who knows their "meatty " doctrine and finally decides to leave to find the truth!!!Good job for leaving!!!
@proudtobeLDS26 So I am scum because I am trying to get them to think about what they believe? I am not tryingg to deconvert, I am simply asking honest questions and showing them where I have issues with their/yours religion.
The fact that you think that trying to get people to think is scum is hilarious.. thinking is good you know?
If your religion is true, then thinking about it should cause it no harm.
The fact that you respond like this, tells me more than the missionaries ever could. Thanks
Don't worry about this fool, the fact that there are people challenging his religion just gets him so worked up he forgets himself and goes unchecked speading his hateful comments- that which his religion advises him not to do.
I have these mormoms coming over once in a while to talk.. I am trying to get them to think about what they believe but they automaticly dismiss all criticisms as the devil working against them.
There are so many mindtraps I keep finding when I talk to them, that it´s hard to have an open discussion.
In virtually every instance I hear about trying to maintain a logical and productive conversation with missionaries, it usually goes like how you've described. I wish you luck with this, but don't expect any progress :/
So when you die, how do you spend eternity? What does Satan look like? Are gays going to heaven. Is there gay sex there? Can one do evil in heaven. If not why? If so, what happens? Is there pornography in heaven? Why or why not. If a man is evil but saved here on this earth, what stops him from doing evil in heaven? Does he still have his free will to continue and saved if he's doing it now? If he can't, who stops him and what are the consequences? Can a man go to heaven then hell? Why?
So when you die, how do you spend eternity? What does Satan look like? Are gays going to heaven. Is there gay sex there? Can one do evil in heaven. If not why? If so, what happens? Is there pornography in heaven? Why or why not. If a man is evil but saved here on this earth, what stops him from doing evil in heaven? Does he still have his free will to continue and saved if he's doing it now? If he can't, who stops him and what are the consequences? Can a man go to heaven then hell? Why?
You escaped Mormonism and were captured by the same anti-Christ spirit whose way is anything other than accepting the wages of sin (death) and the grace of God to pay it for you. Sounds like you need to escape again from false Pagan "freedom".
BE WATCHFUL THE SCRIPTURES IN THE BIBLE REMIND US WE SHALL WITNESS EVENTS SUCH AS THIS IN THE LAST DAYS! IT IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT CHURCH LEADERS NO LONGER AND REFUSE TO TEACH BIBLICAL PROPHESIES IT IS DEPRESSING TO VIEW THE BISHOPS, MINISTERS, REVERNEDS, ETC. WILL NOT TEACH PROPHESY
I'm LDS, but I respect your decision. I smoke, drink, curse, and do a lot of bad things, but never doubt the church to which I believe is the truth, I just know that this world we live in is so damn tempting lol. I figure once I find a woman that I love, I will start going back to church full swing and dump all my bad habits lol. Good luck on your new faith!!
No, I am not monotheistic whatsoever. I didn't really explain what happened after because it needs a whole other video or two, but I consider myself an agnostic heathen.
Nancy Winchester - age 13 or 14,Married 1843 - Joseph Smith age 37
Helen Mar Kimball -age 14,Married May 1843 To - Joseph Smith age 37
D&C 132:61 And again,as pertaining to the law of the priesthood-if any man espouse a virgin,and desire to espouse another,and the first give her consent, and if he espouse the second,and they are virgins,and have vowed to no other man, then is he justified;he cannot commit adultery for they are given unto him...
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Sk8er408 4 months ago
it's a miracle when some one leaves a cult
jayhawk88z 4 months ago
@jayhawk88z haha how are mormons a cult? you dweeb!
getdownto311 3 months ago
@getdownto311 Mormons are certainly not Christian, they believe in multiple Gods. They are polytheistic actually, believing that we can become Gods, there are infinite Gods, and that there are Goddesses. That is not Christian. They have their own beliefs that do not fit into any other category, they're Mormons, which is technically a cult.
burtontoker 3 months ago
@burtontoker pastor Jeffress is that you? so we dont fit YOUR definition?,yeah spare me the cult arguement,im sorry we dont fit your definition of a christian,not up to you who is a chrisitian and who isnt,mormons are certainly christian in every sence of the word,more christian than you could ever be! what you said about the mormons was anything but christian have a nice day chump!
getdownto311 3 months ago
@getdownto311 HAHAHA MORMONS ARE CHRISTIAN? Your IGNORANCE amazes me. To be a Christian you have to believe Jesus IS God, and that he is the ONLY God, and that he is GOD IN FLESH. Mormons believe in multiple Gods and Goddesses. Jesus says, "I am the LORD, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God." Isaiah 45:5-6. It isn't MY definition, thats what the BIBLE SAYS! MORMONS ARE MORE CHRISTIAN THAN CHRISTIANS? BAHAHAHAH. Mormons ARE NOT Christians.
burtontoker 3 months ago
@burtontoker so laughing at us and making us makes you a saint??,your god is unknown as paul describes it,your is mysterious,hateful,intollerable,schizophrenic,and last but not least unbiblical,your an idiot!.
getdownto311 3 months ago
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@getdownto311 You're not Christian. You believe in multiple Gods, and deny that Jesus IS God IN flesh. You believe Jesus is the ruler of earth, NOT God. Christian doctrine states you need to believe Jesus IS God to be a Christian, and hold the belief that there is only ONE God. Mormonism doesn't, Mormonism denies this, and they believe that God has a spirit wife, and that God came down in a physical body to impregnate marry and create Jesus. I'm sorry, but that's NOT Christian.
burtontoker 3 months ago
@getdownto311 There are many gods (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163). THATS WHAT MORMON DOCTRINE SAYS. "I am the LORD, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God." Isaiah 45:5-6. THATS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS. OOPS, you're not a Christian! Bahhaahha you know NOTHING about the Bible, and you know NOTHING about Christianity. Mormons are in NO WAY Christian.
burtontoker 3 months ago
@burtontoker sorry but you are not an authoritive of who is and who isnt christian,ignorance is your middle name bud
getdownto311 3 months ago
@getdownto311 Oh my Lord, you don't have to have any authority to KNOW CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE. ANYONE can read the bible and INTERPRET IT, YOUR BELIEFS ARE NOT BIBLICAL YOU IDIOT. Christian doctrine states there is only ONE GOD, and that JESUS IS GOD. Mormon doctrine states there are many Gods and that Jesus is NOT THE ONLY GOD. You have NO idea what you're talking about you MORON. I'm IGNORANT? I KNOW YOUR MORMON BELIEFS BETTER THAN YOU DO! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
burtontoker 3 months ago
@burtontoker you know my beliefs better than me? haha your such a freaking retard everybody on here know that you are damn! you sound sooo tough on the internet,if you really knew what we believe....it was never in lds doctorine that god impregnated mary we dont believe that god has a wife,i know that you smoke alot of weed and have a menntal handicap...so it figures
getdownto311 3 months ago
@getdownto311 I do know your beliefs better than you, and I am clearly more educated than you. You can't even type a rational, logical sentence defending your crazy doctrine. You do believe God has a wife, you believe there is a Goddess, and that if you're a good Mormon you can become a God. Want me to prove your own beliefs to you? Looks like I'm going to have to, you uneducated fool.
burtontoker 3 months ago
@getdownto311 After you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345-347, 354). There are many gods (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163). After you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345-347, 354). The Devil was born as a spirit after Jesus "in the morning of pre-existence," (Mormon Doctrine, p. 192).
burtontoker 3 months ago
@getdownto311 There is no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of God (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p. 188). here is a mother god (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 443). God is married to his goddess wife and has spirit children (Mormon Doctrine, p. 516). "The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as mans..." (D&C 130:22). YOU GOT OWNED UNEDUCATED MORMON, YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN, GET OVER IT. IF YOU WANT TO BE CHRISTIAN, LEAVE MORMONISM.
burtontoker 3 months ago
@burtontoker love the chery picked quote that you came up with,your a pathetic excuse for a "christian" going around bashing other peoples faiths beacause we dont believe in your watered down christianity,nope im christian get over and get over yourself freakin stupid ass!
getdownto311 3 months ago
@getdownto311 HAHAHAHA Cherry picked quote? WOW, that is great. You are not a Christian and Mormons aren't, I just proved how you aren't. Christian theology - which you clearly lack any understanding of - isn't that difficult. Jesus is GOD, IN FLESH, and is the ONLY GOD. Mormons DENY THIS, therefore they are not Christians. Have a good night being an idiot Mormon, I hope your magic underwear is tight, HAHAHAHAHAHHA DUMBASS MORMON! BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
burtontoker 3 months ago
@burtontoker yeah you didnt prove anything but your ignorance big tough guy
getdownto311 2 months ago
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@getdownto311 I'm the ignorant one? I owned you pal, you clearly fail at knowing your own religions doctrine. You're brainwashed, and its pathetic. I hope your magic underwear protects you, LOL. Mormons are idiots, and can't think for themselves, you're just more proof of that. Thanks.
burtontoker 2 months ago
@burtontoker own me? hahaha whatever makes you feel big and cool,i would love to sit here and have more dialogue but i dont cast my pearls......
getdownto311 2 months ago
@getdownto311 I'm not trying to feel big and cool, I just disproved your entire phony religion in three paragraphs, and obviously you lack the ability to defend your doctrine. I'd be embarrassed if I was you too, so don't feel bad. If you did know your doctrine you could type an intellectual response, but clearly you can't, you'd just look like more of a fool trying to prove a false cult like Mormonism true so its ok.
burtontoker 2 months ago
@burtontoker i know the doctorine better than you can,obviously you have demonstrated piss poor learning skills here,you can bad mouth my faith my leaders all you want,doesnt make it untrue.......just shows how insecure you are in your faith since you focus so much on tearing down a religion instead of preaching about christ,its rediculous how you can think that you know my religion better than i do when you havnt even given me a lick of what we believe nothing but falsehoods and rumors your on.
getdownto311 2 months ago
@getdownto311 Hmm, really? I just posted rumors, and falsehoods? I post whats in the book of Moron, I posted what your doctrine says.
burtontoker 2 months ago
@getdownto311 There are many gods (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163). Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers and we were all born as siblings in heaven to them both, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163.) God is married to his goddess wife and has spirit children (Mormon Doctrine, p. 516). The first spirit to be born in heaven was Jesus (Mormon Doctrine, p. 129).
burtontoker 2 months ago
@burtontoker oo the book of moron? really your going to rever to that?,mormon doctorine is not official church doctorine,and learn to type and lay off the weed its not making you any more intelligent.
getdownto311 2 months ago
@getdownto311 I posted your doctrine lol. Learn to type? I'm the ony using proper grammar. Lay of the weed? I use cannabis for MS, you ignorant fuck. You're the dumbest mother fucker I've ever talked to, you're pathetic and know nothing about religion.
burtontoker 2 months ago
@burtontoker bullshit you dont have ms you liar! your channel is full of stoners like you,i know more about religion you could ever even imagine,yeah resort to name calling because you dont get your way you big baby!
getdownto311 2 months ago
@getdownto311 I just made all that up huh?
burtontoker 2 months ago
@burtontoker so your obsession with the mormon church is quite disturbing,do you really believe in christ? saying that you believe in him is one thing ,i can tell through comments that you dont have him,intellectual response all you have done is call me names and laugh and make fun of my faith,hypocrite much? so your not exactly having an intellectual debate either,your not as bright as you think you are
getdownto311 2 months ago
I notice a link from this same webpage as the others. Seems like a mass advertising joke. What church is truely linked to that website? After hearing that one lady's story I had to call BS. It had so many loopholes in it. I think this anti-Mormon webcam fling is just a coordinated effort pushed by the site. I can make a video right now stating that I left the scientology cult, and there's no substance to my claim. However if I start linking my WEBSITE, then I now have a motive for the video.
TennesseeSurvivalist 5 months ago
Thank you so much for honestly sharing your feelings. What is the truth. Hell, I don't know. I guess I will have to wait until this body dies to find out. May your God bless you, whoever He or She is.
greywolfalyeska 5 months ago
Glad to see you've found your way to truth and out of the Mormon Cult. I've got videos addressing Mormonism and how it's false you should check them out, keep up the great vids!
burtontoker 6 months ago
@burtontoker instead trying to hate on a religion try preaching about christ for once in your life
getdownto311 3 months ago
"I don't know anybody who did"(wear garments)
Actually, you were probably surrounded by people wearing them but never noticed since they are a secret and worn underneath their clothes.Everyone who was sealed in the Temple and still faithful were wearing garments. Everyone who served a mission and is still faithful was wearing them.I just posted a video about "Garments" so you can learn about them.I also posted a recording of the Endowment ceremony on my channel.They are worn after one is Endowed
isthechurchtrue 6 months ago
@flyinkauaiian Maybe you're not easily fooled, but you've absolutely been fooled by Mormons pretending to be Christians. They use the right terms and they behave in a way that appears to be Christian, but that's where the similarities end.
The jesus of Mormonism is a weak, impotent little god born of incest who has almost nothing to do with the Mormon concept of salvation and I hope you realize that some day.
moparmonster1965 7 months ago
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jayhawk88z 8 months ago
Just a simple question . Were you living the Standards of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints at the time of your departure ?
mollymu1 9 months ago
@mollymu1
Well at the time when I officially left, I had not considered myself Christian for some years. So in a word, no.
Voltaire7 9 months ago
@Voltaire7 That was a loaded question, and you played right into her hands in answering no. The fact is that the main driving force and the central tenet of Mormonism is the attaining of exaltation and godhood, something that's not Biblical and therefore not Christian.
She probably took that as a small victory and satidfied herself that your leaving the church was the result of your not having followed the church's rules, thereby strengthening her own faith in the false LDS church.
moparmonster1965 7 months ago
@mollymu1 Do U live the standards of Mormonism? Jesus taught us that we R not to judge others lest we be judged. This actually is talking more about condemning than judging. R U hoping that U R enough better, than enough other people that God will ignore all of your sins, & welcome U into heaven? The Bible makes it very clear that anyone claiming to B without sin is a liar 1 John 1:8-10 Revelation 21:8 says all liars will have their part in the lake of fire. Jesus is the total Way. Read John 3.
1stcorinthians1vrs18 8 months ago
@1stcorinthians1vrs18 The Biblical Jesus taught us to judge righteously, whereas the Mormon jesus is just an awkward, ill-fitting product of incest that is nothing more than a sideshow barker for exaltation.
It's also funny that you quote the Bible when we both know you don't actually accept it as fact, but instead, use it to prove your own point, and nothing more.
moparmonster1965 7 months ago
@moparmonster1965 I Most assuredly accept the Bible as not only fact, but what it declares itself to be. The word of God. Jesus declared that He is the way to heaven. The whole Bible indicates that that is the case. Isaiah 53 43:10,11 John 3 etc. If I have a point that cannot be supported by the Bible, it would be a nearly useless opinion, of no more value than anyone elses opinions. The Bible has not been corrupted. It can and should be fully trusted. You can read nearly any english translation
1stcorinthians1vrs18 7 months ago
@1stcorinthians1vrs18 I agree, but you're not a Mormon, which I didn't know when I made the first comment.
moparmonster1965 7 months ago
@moparmonster1965 ok. I was born & raised a Mormon, & have read all Mormon "scripture" which is fraud, nonsense, & Joseph Smiths imagination, mixed with twisted plagiarisms from the Bible, & brainwashing verses, which try 2 condemn people if they reject the lies that Mormonism declares 2B scripture. I now after years of sorting through the lies I was taught, believe the Bible 2B the uncorrupted word of God, that Satan has been attacking since Genesis 3:1. Mormonism is the original lie repackaged
1stcorinthians1vrs18 7 months ago
@1stcorinthians1vrs18 I agree with you on almost all points, but would like to ask you this: could God not work through Mormonism if He so chose? I ask because I don't believe that all Mormons automatically go to Hell for following a false gospel any more than I believe Catholics are doomed to the same fate (I was raised strict RCC).
moparmonster1965 7 months ago
@moparmonster1965 God causes all things to work together 4 good Romans 8:28. Religion of any kind cannot save us, only God can John 14:6 3:18,36. If we R trusting in ourselves or our good works to get us into heaven, we will go to hell because Romans 3:23 6:23 all have sinned, the wages of our sin is death. Only the blood of Christ can remove our sins, if our sins have been removed by His blood, we will go to Heaven, by grace through faith, no matter what religion we may or may not be a part of.
1stcorinthians1vrs18 7 months ago
@1stcorinthians1vrs18 I agree on all points but let me ask you this: is baptism required for salvation? It's a constant through all Judeo-Christian religions.
moparmonster1965 7 months ago
@moparmonster1965 No, not at all. Baptism is symbolic. 4 a person who is saved, 2B baptized is a testimony 2 those watching that they have been born again & R living 4 Christ. 4 anyone else 2B baptized, they are just getting wet. Salvation comes at the moment a person puts their faith in God(Jesus Christ) for salvation. John 3:18,36 he that has the Son has life, he that does not have the Son, the wrath of God abides on him. A genuine baptism comes after salvation, but does not help save at all.
1stcorinthians1vrs18 7 months ago
@1stcorinthians1vrs18 I'm impressed; you know your stuff. Most people don't understand the question, much less the answer. I was ready to point out that the three lepers, the woman who touched Jesus' robe, and the thief next to Him were all declared by the savior to have been saved without benefit of water baptism.
The rest of your post is absolutely correct.
moparmonster1965 7 months ago
@moparmonster1965 Thank you. Growing up as a Mormon, I was thoroughly brainwashed into that belief system. Once I started to see that it might be wrong, I had to finally come to a point where I had to question everything. Because I came to see that pretty much everything I had ever believed was a lie. After I came to realize that the Bible can be trusted, I had a lot of serious studying of it to do also. We can never be in the Bible too much.
1stcorinthians1vrs18 7 months ago
Growing up strict RCC, I find many idolatrous things in it, like parying to Mary and the saints, the Rosary, and then other problems like the concepts of Purgatory and Transubstantiation, too. I also find that long-time Catholic traditions like having a statue of Mary in the garden (usually roses) is a carry-over from goddess worship (Isis and a Greek goddess whose name I can't remember right now) because their symbols were roses.
moparmonster1965 7 months ago
@1stcorinthians1vrs18 I agree here, too, but want to ask you this question: how do certain changes, like William Tindale's addition of the words "And lead us not into temptation" to the Lord's Prayer jibe with the original matierial in which it wasn't found?
moparmonster1965 7 months ago
@moparmonster1965 I'm affraid that I am not nearly a good enough scholar to give a proper answer to that question. I cannot read Greek or Hebrew, I have not studied too carefully William Tyndale either. From what I have watched about his life, I would not think he would be lightly adding anything to, or taking anything away from the word of God. If he did add those words in, my guess would be that perhaps he was trying to clarify deliver us from evil, but I really do not know.
1stcorinthians1vrs18 7 months ago
I've learned that what I know is dwarfed by what I don't know and that sort of sucks, but it shows that I have a long way to go.
And I simply asked because it brings up a good point that Mormons will sometimes cite in the differences between Biblical editions and versions, to which I don't have a good answer either.
moparmonster1965 7 months ago
@1stcorinthians1vrs18 I can respect that. You've truly left the LDS because when you ask an apologist a question that they don't know the answer to, they'll tend to make it up as they go along, but almost never say that they don't know.
moparmonster1965 7 months ago
@mollymu1 it's system of bondage good for for handing you life over to the Lord it's a miracle when some one leaves a cult.
jayhawk88z 8 months ago
@JSeely218 that is not true at all... you just haven't put any effort into learning and understanding the gospel. I'm very happy to be a member. if you decide not to put in any effort, have fun with the rest of your life.... and it's not "Mormonism" it's called The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
cake10 10 months ago
@cake10 what gospel? the lds church does have the fullness of the gospel of jesus christ, becuz it teaches a different jesus christ! you mormons need help!
sammo21001 9 months ago
@cake10 And just because it misuses the name of Christ actually doesn't mean anything at all. But since you think it does, can you tell me who the church was of from 1834-1838 when the name of Christ wasn't it in at all?
moparmonster1965 7 months ago
I just resigned from Mormonism too by Email mentioned below. I realised it is a fraud and a cult and decided to get out while I can.
MrUNIXman 10 months ago
You can now resign by EMAIL. It's FREE and QUICK!
dodgegw@ldschurch(dot)org
MistressInked 11 months ago 6
@MistressInked That's how I did it! Best thing I've ever done
tattoodfreeek 2 months ago
hey great video as an ex christian become athiest, you made a great choice, i have friends who are mormans and they wear the underwear
pauljosse 1 year ago
your video is boring! watch 1 minute of it you should delete it
ivansud76 1 year ago
@ivansud76 You're clearly missing the point, I'm not here to entertain.
Voltaire7 1 year ago 2
@Voltaire7 , of curse you are not ...but as an informant of this matter you are not good as well, I'm sorry i don't see the point of attacking other religions beliefs if your experience was bad,and miserable that doesn't mean everybody is going to have the same experience, I'm not defending anyone i just think that everybody's religion is personal and should be respected, running your mouth isn't going to help anyone. Read you own comments and think about yourself what kind of person you are.
ivansud76 4 months ago
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EmBeesWeb 4 months ago
your cute
lovesheidi 1 year ago
Mmmmmdesiresoftheflesh
Voltaire7 1 year ago
Remember that Christ said that he that believes and is baptized shall be saved. Mark 16:16 and Peter instructed the believers to repent, be baptized by immersion for the remission of sins and then receive the Gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 2:38 This poor girl had done those things. Maybe she didn't understand. Now the desires of the flesh are more important to her. She wants to align herself with Satan and remove all connection to Christ.
LukeAir2008 1 year ago
So just to clarify to all the poor deceived people out there. Nobody RESIGNS from the LDS church unless they work for the Church as a secretary or computer programmer or something. This girl does not or did not work for the church. What she is doing is requesting that her name is REMOVED from the records of the CHURCH of JESUS CHRIST so that her baptism and confirmation is CANCELLED out.
LukeAir2008 1 year ago
@TheColgrove4 Are you really that gullible? You don't have to resign to leave the church. In fact there is no such thing as resigning from the LDS church. The problem is is that Satan is never happy with you just not going back to the LDS church. He wants your soul. He wants to cancel out any connection you have with Christ and so he demands that you have your name REMOVED from the Church of Jesus Christ so he can claim you as his own.
LukeAir2008 1 year ago
YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO MAKE A RESIGNATION LETTER TO BE OUT OF THE CHURCH! wow that church is so stupid and untrue!
TheColgrove4 1 year ago
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“But even if we or an angel from heaven (moroni) should preach to you a gospel other than what we have preached to you, curse be on him!” Galatians 1:6-9 Mormon’s are not prepared for the coming apocalypse, Huge Sorrow will be to the mormon who refuse to see the truth, You have been warned your fall will be great. Read the BIBLE ONLY!
imationqwest 1 year ago
How old are you? Why would you make such a big decision when you have practically no life experience? Maybe search your heart? And see who YOU are and not your atheist friends and boyfriend. Heavenly father will be there whenever you are ready.
yung1republican 1 year ago
@yung1republican
I love how you assume life experience by my appearance, and that's all I'll say about that. I didn't make this decision lightly, in fact, it took me the better part of about five years to sort what I believed and didn't believe, there was much heart-searching, but more than that, there was brain searching and using my logic. I have few atheist friends, and many of the friends I have now I didn't have when I started using my brain about religion (not only mormonism).
Voltaire7 1 year ago 4
@yung1republican why do you raise your kids at 8 to be mormon fuck face? shut the fuck up before you take a big shit on this page.
CerberusSoul4ever 1 year ago
Just bullshit the x mormons that you bump into, and tell them that youll see them at church on Sunday, just as they bullshit you in their teachings
streetography 1 year ago
@proudtobeLDS26 the CULT are a bunch of RACISTS (fact) and it seems highly unmoral in their behaviour, if you're statement is anything to go by, but if youre religion makes you a better person, then go for it.
streetography 1 year ago
@proudtobeLDS26 not very Christ ike....
keysofluvher1 1 year ago
@BlissfulHeretic yes but the trouble with accepting logic is that we become emotionless beings that do not believe in ANYTHING. and yes, there are extremes in rejecting logic, for instance, your purple sky scenario. but i do believe people, like myself, are able to put limits on their rejection of common sense
xx1musicluver2xx 1 year ago
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xx1musicluver2xx 1 year ago
@ZandRTheFlop I Challenge you to read the Book of Mormon, ACTUALLY read it, then message me back on why it is Illogical. I am curious of your opinion. Thank you.
VALKURION 1 year ago
@VALKURION It's illogical because it presents itself as God's word and gets the history of America completely wrong.
samtorrance5590 1 year ago
@proudtobeLDS26 Very mature. If I were Mormon, I would leave just because of you. However, I'm having too many issues with my current church to worry about a problem such as you.
tjrieves 1 year ago
thanks for sharing your story :-)
lnesland 1 year ago
instead of asking them for answers get on your knees and ask good!!!
Mapakaitolo 1 year ago
Great video. I had a similar experience in my life. Long story short my life has never been better. It takes a lot of courage and it can be hard on your family and what not, but if you are cool and respectful your family will still love you (and im sure they do). You and I are fortunate that we found this out so early in our lives before it was too late (ie serving a mission, temple marriage). Everyday has been a blessing since I left. In the name of Jesus Christ, amen, (ha)
EthanSk8s 1 year ago
well good for you.... takes alot to leave mormonism.. its like the american islam lol what are you doing with your life now
kevangreen18 1 year ago
@proudtobeLDS26
How very Mormon of you to say so.
Voltaire7 1 year ago 6
@Voltaire7 See thats been my point to other LDS.When they cant come back at someone with script or doctrinal things to back up there beliefs they do personal attacks (nixmix24) they just cant handle people who knows their "meatty " doctrine and finally decides to leave to find the truth!!!Good job for leaving!!!
IRISHBUDDAFILTH 1 year ago
@proudtobeLDS26 So I am scum because I am trying to get them to think about what they believe? I am not tryingg to deconvert, I am simply asking honest questions and showing them where I have issues with their/yours religion.
The fact that you think that trying to get people to think is scum is hilarious.. thinking is good you know?
If your religion is true, then thinking about it should cause it no harm.
The fact that you respond like this, tells me more than the missionaries ever could. Thanks
Korkzor 1 year ago
@Korkzor
Don't worry about this fool, the fact that there are people challenging his religion just gets him so worked up he forgets himself and goes unchecked speading his hateful comments- that which his religion advises him not to do.
"Love one another", correct?
Voltaire7 1 year ago
I have these mormoms coming over once in a while to talk.. I am trying to get them to think about what they believe but they automaticly dismiss all criticisms as the devil working against them.
There are so many mindtraps I keep finding when I talk to them, that it´s hard to have an open discussion.
Korkzor 1 year ago
@Korkzor
In virtually every instance I hear about trying to maintain a logical and productive conversation with missionaries, it usually goes like how you've described. I wish you luck with this, but don't expect any progress :/
Voltaire7 1 year ago
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So when you die, how do you spend eternity? What does Satan look like? Are gays going to heaven. Is there gay sex there? Can one do evil in heaven. If not why? If so, what happens? Is there pornography in heaven? Why or why not. If a man is evil but saved here on this earth, what stops him from doing evil in heaven? Does he still have his free will to continue and saved if he's doing it now? If he can't, who stops him and what are the consequences? Can a man go to heaven then hell? Why?
loganhistorian 1 year ago
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So when you die, how do you spend eternity? What does Satan look like? Are gays going to heaven. Is there gay sex there? Can one do evil in heaven. If not why? If so, what happens? Is there pornography in heaven? Why or why not. If a man is evil but saved here on this earth, what stops him from doing evil in heaven? Does he still have his free will to continue and saved if he's doing it now? If he can't, who stops him and what are the consequences? Can a man go to heaven then hell? Why?
loganhistorian 1 year ago
You escaped Mormonism and were captured by the same anti-Christ spirit whose way is anything other than accepting the wages of sin (death) and the grace of God to pay it for you. Sounds like you need to escape again from false Pagan "freedom".
dudsbalboa 1 year ago
@dudsbalboa
No thanks pal, I am perfectly happy in my sinful, heathen world.
Voltaire7 1 year ago
BE WATCHFUL THE SCRIPTURES IN THE BIBLE REMIND US WE SHALL WITNESS EVENTS SUCH AS THIS IN THE LAST DAYS! IT IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT CHURCH LEADERS NO LONGER AND REFUSE TO TEACH BIBLICAL PROPHESIES IT IS DEPRESSING TO VIEW THE BISHOPS, MINISTERS, REVERNEDS, ETC. WILL NOT TEACH PROPHESY
free2bekirk 1 year ago
@free2bekirk
LOL
Voltaire7 1 year ago
@Voltaire7 you too as well, every man who is wise shall seek the path to SALVATION for JESUS CHRIST IS THE WAY to ETERNAL PEACE PROSPERITY.
free2bekirk 1 year ago
@free2bekirk
Yeah ok buddy. Amusing the first time, now you can fuck off.
Voltaire7 1 year ago
I'm LDS, but I respect your decision. I smoke, drink, curse, and do a lot of bad things, but never doubt the church to which I believe is the truth, I just know that this world we live in is so damn tempting lol. I figure once I find a woman that I love, I will start going back to church full swing and dump all my bad habits lol. Good luck on your new faith!!
jamescgale 1 year ago
@jamescgale Wow, if you do all those things you're about to be excommunicated !
carolelea41 1 year ago
nice letter! Good job for the bravery. Good though. I like your youtube name also. Tu es francophone aussi?
gustavobyu 2 years ago
@gustavobyu
Merci :)
No, je ne pas fracophone, je suis une anglophone canadienne et je n'ai pas parlé français pendant cinq ans :P
I just picked a random name to be honest, but Voltaire was a cool guy.
Voltaire7 2 years ago
Congrats. exmormon here also :).
IloveChrist2 2 years ago
Congrats on leaving the MORmON cult!!!
MistressInked 2 years ago
Thanks :)
Voltaire7 2 years ago
so what now? ever consider islaam?
Issy7862002 2 years ago
No, I am not monotheistic whatsoever. I didn't really explain what happened after because it needs a whole other video or two, but I consider myself an agnostic heathen.
Voltaire7 2 years ago
Voltaire7 Good thing you left Mormonism : )
Nancy Winchester - age 13 or 14,Married 1843 - Joseph Smith age 37
Helen Mar Kimball -age 14,Married May 1843 To - Joseph Smith age 37
D&C 132:61 And again,as pertaining to the law of the priesthood-if any man espouse a virgin,and desire to espouse another,and the first give her consent, and if he espouse the second,and they are virgins,and have vowed to no other man, then is he justified;he cannot commit adultery for they are given unto him...
llegalPlayer 2 years ago 9