Texas was weak after its war with Mexico and saddled with a huge international debt and no real natural resources. It had a small population and only won against the Mexicans because of Santa Ana's incompetence and aid from Americans. It never could have expanded nor survived as an independent nation for the 70 some years until oil became important. The US or some other power would have taken it over.
First, why would there be a civil war? No new territory= no freesoilers = no Republicans= no civil war. Second, Texas couldn't get more territory from the U.S. America would require a Pacific port, and would fight tooth and nail to keep as much land as possible. You're also going on the assumption that everything would be the same. Two world wars, basically same Presidents, Soviet Union still rises; things would be A LOT different. And Bush isn't from Texas, he was born in Connecticut.
My problem with this scenario is that the Republic of Texas was fairly weak and poor. That's why they were looking for an union with someone. (American statehood won, but Sam Houston wanted Texas to become a British colony.) If they had survived the initial years, it might have worked.
For one, Texas WOULD NOT have managed to hold it's own against Mexico. For another, A small country like that, constantly barraged BY MEXICO would NOT be strong enough to take territory from America, even during the civil war. Which, on that note, would have gone much, much, much differently.
@alternatehistorypt i think i know the answer to the ending question both countries are starting to have border wars on who is better then well they will going on a all out war after the war both countries will be week from the war and all the land that texas and us owns will be lost due to the second cold war and both of them will be nothing more than a provenience in between powerful kingdoms
@alternatehistorypt i think i know the answer to the ending question both countries are starting to have border wars on who is better then well they will going on a all out war after the war both countries will be week from the war and all the land that texas and us owns will be lost due to the second cold war and revolutions both of them will be nothing more than a provenience in between powerful kingdoms
I guess i could also make a respose or something.. but i busy alot so thats why i ask you to do it.........and you did alsome.. and i think yours probally be more beliveable then somethings i had in mine.
Dude i love it... crazy shit...haha i might just have to emigrate to USA in that universe.hhaha.. 9-11 on Houston o man that would be crazy.... for cool and detail just enough..
but of corse as everyone dose i also have other ideas.. but you went farther into then what i was think as i got stuck or writers block on like what happen after Civil war and what to do with orgean and Washintion.. Slavery in Texas stuff like o and Alaska? I couldn't think of what to do with.
Hm. I do think this could definitely have happened... except at the very beginning I have problems with Texas conquering California. Most Californians at the Civil War era were pro-Republican pro-USA, with a very strong sense of identity as Californians from the very beginning (so Texas would have had their hands full conquering them). I think it would have come down to more of a three-way split, CA vs TX vs USA, but with California and the US either uniting being allied in the new Cold War.
@robotminione hha maybe but like i told someone else above alt made this for me and of corse other TEXAS fans... out there..i gave him the orinigal idea and i got the idea from a episiod of the TV show called sliders and in that story line Texas conquered cal as cal was a part of us and if Texas wasn't in us and not in the CSA most of the fighting would be from Marryland to alabama or other places maybe..
@alternatehistorypt maybe Canada join the war and annex great parts of the USA and Texas, then they make crown an own emperor and found the CANADIAN EMPIRE !
@RESTAURIERTdasDKR Never haha Long live the lone star... as as mexico suffered war with USA and Texas not too long ago Mexico probally would try..
Also i gave Alt.His. this idea...:) thanks friend....and i got it from a tv show the Sliders.. you should watch it... actually i never finished watch that episoid..dane it.. well thats my next stop.
I have to ask why you didn't leave the original American flag where it was instead of pasting over it.
AuburnAttack21 1 month ago
Texas was weak after its war with Mexico and saddled with a huge international debt and no real natural resources. It had a small population and only won against the Mexicans because of Santa Ana's incompetence and aid from Americans. It never could have expanded nor survived as an independent nation for the 70 some years until oil became important. The US or some other power would have taken it over.
jonpetry 2 months ago
Texas would win
rollingparkinglot 4 months ago
First, why would there be a civil war? No new territory= no freesoilers = no Republicans= no civil war. Second, Texas couldn't get more territory from the U.S. America would require a Pacific port, and would fight tooth and nail to keep as much land as possible. You're also going on the assumption that everything would be the same. Two world wars, basically same Presidents, Soviet Union still rises; things would be A LOT different. And Bush isn't from Texas, he was born in Connecticut.
RoosterCogburn1008 5 months ago
My problem with this scenario is that the Republic of Texas was fairly weak and poor. That's why they were looking for an union with someone. (American statehood won, but Sam Houston wanted Texas to become a British colony.) If they had survived the initial years, it might have worked.
Archduke17 6 months ago
No. No no no no no.
For one, Texas WOULD NOT have managed to hold it's own against Mexico. For another, A small country like that, constantly barraged BY MEXICO would NOT be strong enough to take territory from America, even during the civil war. Which, on that note, would have gone much, much, much differently.
petedog8989 8 months ago
wow. not the ending i expected. still nice vid
DumberSuperDUDE 8 months ago
@DumberSuperDUDE thanks friend :)
alternatehistorypt 8 months ago
When socialists and free marketers work together for the common good, everybody wins.
xtremejohnny69 8 months ago
The United States, as liberal as the Netherlands? A little too optimistic!
SisterhoneyTS 1 year ago 5
@SisterhoneyTS yes I agree ... lol :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
@alternatehistorypt i think i know the answer to the ending question both countries are starting to have border wars on who is better then well they will going on a all out war after the war both countries will be week from the war and all the land that texas and us owns will be lost due to the second cold war and both of them will be nothing more than a provenience in between powerful kingdoms
MrJakys1234566 11 months ago
@MrJakys1234566 thanks for this comment and all your other ones :)
alternatehistorypt 11 months ago
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@alternatehistorypt i think i know the answer to the ending question both countries are starting to have border wars on who is better then well they will going on a all out war after the war both countries will be week from the war and all the land that texas and us owns will be lost due to the second cold war and revolutions both of them will be nothing more than a provenience in between powerful kingdoms
MrJakys1234566 11 months ago
@alternatehistorypt I get it bush is a democrat gore is a republican
TheSaboteur97 9 months ago
Ha! I was thinking before I saw it... ' Bush is gonna screw up the peace. '
The Texans would win. Us liberals aren't all too into war.
MonsieurJackAss 1 year ago
@MonsieurJackAss I hope not lol :) thanks for watching :) I like your channel too :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
This one's awesome. keep up the good work :D
scoobyrds 1 year ago
@scoobyrds glad you liked friend :) I will :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
Well, I found this one particularly interesting. Excellent job, man.
JoMCaR3193 1 year ago
@JoMCaR3193 thanks :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
I guess i could also make a respose or something.. but i busy alot so thats why i ask you to do it.........and you did alsome.. and i think yours probally be more beliveable then somethings i had in mine.
WorldDebater 1 year ago
@WorldDebater glad you liked friend :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
@alternatehistorypt Thanks, your videos are interestng:-)
SuperAcab666 1 year ago
@SuperAcab666 you're welcome as allways :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
@alternatehistorypt Thanks friend:-DDD
SuperAcab666 1 year ago
Interesting history here:-)
SuperAcab666 1 year ago
@SuperAcab666 glad you liked my friend :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
Dude i love it... crazy shit...haha i might just have to emigrate to USA in that universe.hhaha.. 9-11 on Houston o man that would be crazy.... for cool and detail just enough..
but of corse as everyone dose i also have other ideas.. but you went farther into then what i was think as i got stuck or writers block on like what happen after Civil war and what to do with orgean and Washintion.. Slavery in Texas stuff like o and Alaska? I couldn't think of what to do with.
WorldDebater 1 year ago
I do like this idea though. It seems plausible.
robotminione 1 year ago
@robotminione thanks for watching and liking friend :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
Hm. I do think this could definitely have happened... except at the very beginning I have problems with Texas conquering California. Most Californians at the Civil War era were pro-Republican pro-USA, with a very strong sense of identity as Californians from the very beginning (so Texas would have had their hands full conquering them). I think it would have come down to more of a three-way split, CA vs TX vs USA, but with California and the US either uniting being allied in the new Cold War.
robotminione 1 year ago
@robotminione hha maybe but like i told someone else above alt made this for me and of corse other TEXAS fans... out there..i gave him the orinigal idea and i got the idea from a episiod of the TV show called sliders and in that story line Texas conquered cal as cal was a part of us and if Texas wasn't in us and not in the CSA most of the fighting would be from Marryland to alabama or other places maybe..
WorldDebater 1 year ago
i would say, mexico would join the war and would annex whole texas and great parts of the USA !
RESTAURIERTdasDKR 1 year ago
@RESTAURIERTdasDKR It could be too but I already have a Super Mexico video so here I chose a different path :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
@alternatehistorypt maybe Canada join the war and annex great parts of the USA and Texas, then they make crown an own emperor and found the CANADIAN EMPIRE !
RESTAURIERTdasDKR 1 year ago
@RESTAURIERTdasDKR No, Canada is too peaceful and evolved a nation for that :)!
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
@RESTAURIERTdasDKR I might make some possible ends to this in the future...your suggesntion and even some you might not like too :P lol :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
@RESTAURIERTdasDKR and thanks for watching :)
alternatehistorypt 1 year ago
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@alternatehistorypt then maybe Canada would join the war and would annex Great parts of the USA and Texas !
RESTAURIERTdasDKR 1 year ago
@RESTAURIERTdasDKR Never haha Long live the lone star... as as mexico suffered war with USA and Texas not too long ago Mexico probally would try..
Also i gave Alt.His. this idea...:) thanks friend....and i got it from a tv show the Sliders.. you should watch it... actually i never finished watch that episoid..dane it.. well thats my next stop.
WorldDebater 1 year ago