Soldering Your EBN Dry Cell For 2 Wire Connection

[ballyquillanboy]

Mike, do you know of anybody using this unit in a car. I want to buy one from you but everytime i nearly have the money, a bill seems to jump the queue. All my £'s are prisoners, but i'll get there.

Thanks for the video

[SmartScarecrow]

Mike, I owe you an appology ... I just read all this nasty BS posted by this poor misguided soul ArizCouesDeer who seems to think has inside knowledge of things he knows nothing about ... I went a bit ballistic said some very unkind things that after thinking a bit, I deleted ... you handled the jerk quite well and did not require my nose butting into your channel ... sorry to clutter up your thread ...

[ChrisPCrunchy]

Thats what I meant, design the connection plates with the bolt on connections. I am just trying to improve the design and be constructive.

Good luck with you work.

[ChrisPCrunchy]

Why not just have bolt on connections on the plates themselves instead of male spade connections? Solder connections and the heat generated by the naturally resistive stainless steel plates do not make a good combination, especially if you add the vibration of a motor vehicle.

Just my 2c worth anyway.

[hhoconnection]

And just where exactly on these plates would you make these bolt connections? I understand that this can be done with a different plate design, but this video is about setting up an EBN style dry cell with tabs on the plates.

[thegreatkoua]

that is a big cell

[bhelpurii]

Mike, is the solder you are using standard lead solder or something special for stainless?

Great How to videos btw

[hhoconnection]

The solder is nothing special. It's just cheap off the rack of the hardware store. The exact make is a company called Alphametals Inc. Rosin Core 40/60 (whatever that means). Like I have said to others I am by no means an expert at soldering, but this combo does seem to work, at least so far!

[ArizCouesDeer]

Your going to hold to this story of open source? Please tell the truth of what really happen... As I know what happen... I have the PDF file and what your selling is a duplicate of this file that belongs to Sid. This is a total scam!!!

[hhoconnection]

And you wonder why the guys at EBN did not answer you. Sid's cell was based on a design by William Rhodes, Ernest Spirig, Yull Brown and later refined by Bob Boyce, George Wiseman, etc. Did he rip them off? I don't know why the hell you are ranting about this but it is really starting to annoy me. If you have something constructive to contribute fine, otherwise, stop posting on my videos or I will remove you!

[ArizCouesDeer]

I did ask and got NO reply. EBN can't come up with their own design and did the next best thing and steal and copy from others. Makes you just as bad as you are a reseller of this design...

[hhoconnection]

It was my understanding that Sid developed this cell when he was part of EBN as an open source design and then decided to go out on his own. Let me say that again OPEN SOURCE DESIGN! Sid's cell was actually inspired by a design by someone else. I have the file as a PDF. So why don't you just take a big old pill and stop being such a confrontational jerk-off.

[ArizCouesDeer]

Why have you copied Sid Youngs Dry Cell design after he left EBN?

[hhoconnection]

First of all it's not my design and I am not a member of EBN, I am one of their dealers. Why did EBN copy Sid's design, why don't you ask them. I'm pretty sure it was something they were both OK with. What is it to you anyway?

[moreoverunity]

I havent tried those push on's you mentioned or the type solder either (silver/rosin)it might be they actually might bond stronger which is good, I admit I havent tried them, just reporting what the electrical type solder did with my type terminals.

Like the idea though, I will try it see if they bond better than what i used, its very clever either way... good thinking! I think I will use it on my MEGA cell where I have tabs soldered, but I need major Amp carry on the connections.

[hhoconnection]

You might be right. I tried pulling on the tabs and wiggling them back and forth and it seems to hold but time will tell. I will try the silver solder like Scarecrow said. I mainly wanted to show my technique for getting the connections soldered with heat shrink over them because I'm too cheap to buy the soldered connectors, and they are hard to find. Thanks for the comments though.

[moreoverunity]

It takes some doing as I said, not easy to pull off with the electrical solder and the shrink solder push on's, but it can be done. I think you will be fine you have to TRY to remove them, either way..such a cool idea! I wasnt too happy using 8AWG wires for each plate with the thinner push on's for my cell, even soldered i think they will overheat at 50A. I think this will solve that problem I can even go 6AWG to the bolts. Im told the bolts can handle 150A cool. :) I have yet to test that.

[hhoconnection]

Actually, it was your video about the connectors that inspired this idea, so thanks!

[moreoverunity]

NP glad to help!

Its a great idea with the ring terminals, wish I had seen this before I tried soldering the two 8AWG to my mega :P I just tried pulling my soldered connections off.. It takes some doing and is not THAT easy to do.

Also had a thought, it might NOT be the different materials/type of push on terminals that are making a difference for you based on materials, maybe they are just TIGHTER from the start, making them grip better? Most are made from the same materials I think...

[moreoverunity]

I would check to see if you can pull them off with some effort they probably will come off. I soldered terminals like this using the electrical type solder.. they SEEMED bonded well, but really ONLY bonded to the push on terminal. I figured they were solid but when moving them around, I found one popped off with some good effort pulling on it.

It's not EASY to pull them off when soldered, so you are probably fine, esp if you get better bond than I did with electrical type solder.

[najman100]

you need flux to make a perfect connection

[hhoconnection]

The solder I used is rosin core and it seems to be holding really well.

[SmartScarecrow]

you will find that sliver solder sticks to the stainless a bit better ...

[SmartScarecrow]

keep this up and EBN is going to have to put you on the R&D team ... you are coming up with some great ideas ... keep them coming ...