@LegoLorikeet Dude Google has done so much more than just become a search engine??? The android phones are just as good as the Iphone if not better as long as the company that creates them gives them good hardware.
Where have you been the past year and a half? Mars?
My bro has a htc desire (same thing as the nexus one, just published with this name because it wasnt out yet in europe) and it has no signal at 50% of all the time :D He spent lots of money for a phone that's not working for phone calls.
But HEY!!! It can do many other things... Taking pictures, playing games, writing and recieving e-mail and so on .de
Who needs a mobile phone you can do phone calls with ?! xD
@UnloadFM1 the head of google is probaly one rich bastard. He or she owns youtube and google. Then again I heard somewhere that Google still haven't made the money back that they used to buy Youtube.
@UnloadFM1 That's not actually true. Android was a tiny company making mobile phone apps, then Google bought it and also employed the Android employees to the Google community. I think Android is brilliant, I have a Samsung Galaxy Icon, and I'll have a HTC Desire in a week. Check my channel for reviews on both (I still haven't finished the Galaxy reviews).
@ all of you downers for the android i personally own a droid eris and its WAY better than iphone not as many app but most of droid apps are free (and google has a dev. rescource so you can make your own apps) and like i phone the droid has many home screens, but it has a menu that holds every app on the phone. plus droid come with free mem cars eris is 8gb and moto droid is 16gb.
SORRY SKB i wont do this again) hey 0guys not tryin to spam or anything but could u pleeese check out my utube channel backround and desighn worked prety hard AND ALSO if u comment on my channel or vid i will sub :)
@Ferrymartyr cool, i can take a flash light around too and shine it on what i want to take a picture of. still not the same thing. Iphone has no flash. it doesnt have everything, epic fail
don't forget that it has a 1 ghz processor while the iphone has like a 600 mhz processor. It has animated wallpapers that actually respond to how you touch it. The 5 MP camera with led flash versus the iphone's 3.2 MP camera without flash. It is running a truly custom android nicknamed Flan and it is gorgeous. There is a video about the Flan on the Nexus somewhere on youtube. This phone is truly a competitor to the iphone (which is old news anyway)
Nice review. good insight. Great job. hey Crzy hypr he says it's built by HTC in the vid pay attention. it's nice to se other AnD nerds like myself. Have you seen the Kindles with Android. Jimmy Fallen Had prototypes on the show.
Okay Johnny Q, calm down with the English lesson. Here are some of the mistakes you made, capitalize the "M" in maybe, instead of "..." place a comma, comma before "or", and "about" instead of "bout". You should actually consider revising the entire sentence. How about them apples?
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every phone should be unlocked! all phones were unlocked here in finland but then came the fucking iphone... i almost got iphone and few months there comes 3g and again few months 3g s. well im getting n900 so no worries
So can you get 3g on unlocked phones?I haven't bought an unlocked phone so I have no idea.2nd question, is it going to be a phone that you can get a 2yr contract and pay like $199 from T-mobile? Please respond if you know and thanks for the vid.
Because the rumor is that Google designed and manufactured the phone, not just the OS (unlike how the G1, mytouch, Magic, Droid were built by HTC or Motorola).
oops, apparently he said built by HTC (just got to that part). I suppose it's the "Google Phone" because they designed it, unlike other phones running Android.
It's supposed to be running Android 2.1 and supposedly something revolutionary with the camera... my guess google goggles fully optimized with facial recognition, with one click.
ummm well your the one who needs a life all i was doing was making a light hearted comment that Mark should have worn his google shirt to make this video!!
As soon as I saw this I immediately knew that it was designed by HTC because it looks exactly like my Hero.
This is basically just an unlocked version of the Sprint Hero: same camera, same design/shape, same track ball, same softtouch cover, etc. It might have a bigger processor though which the Hero badly needs.
i gots the G1 :D (it reminds me of mac, because my G1 wont exept files from a pc file, though the file can be similar, the downlaods only work from another G1,linux (non-windows), mac,HTC or iphones/ipod)
I love google's approach to market releases. They keep the world well informed about their technologies, listen to ideas, release them in advance, work on the shortcomings and then finally provide full fledged service to the end user. This is very much opposite to Apple's approach which is more about secrecy and bringing in products with a bang. Apple always works on the wow factor. But frankly, Google's way is more worthwhile in the long run.
srsly, a YouTube sweater, whered u get that`?
TheR3t4rds 8 months ago
ugly phone for ugly people
ValiumAlleyoop 8 months ago
@ValiumAlleyoop I heard your mum has two?
iObsidian 5 months ago
@iObsidian LAWL
ValiumAlleyoop 4 months ago
life was so much simpler when apple and blackberry were just fruits =.=
AiZaiShotz 11 months ago 37
@AiZaiShotz and when windows were parts on a house :(
SlimySnail44 7 months ago 2
What the hell? Google is a search engine! Stick to that it won't even be a good phone.
LegoLorikeet 1 year ago
@LegoLorikeet wow , u know this phone has been released and discountinued already right???
Cruisexpert96 1 year ago
@LegoLorikeet Dude Google has done so much more than just become a search engine??? The android phones are just as good as the Iphone if not better as long as the company that creates them gives them good hardware.
Where have you been the past year and a half? Mars?
doggysweep 8 months ago
@LegoLorikeet Do you know ANYTHING about google?
Bartholemew2 8 months ago
i want a nexus :{
JanellesQuestions 1 year ago
... The gPhone.
Pokegod100 1 year ago
when i 'm only seeing this disighn i already don't like it !
vanser3004 1 year ago
i love your videos they are better than anyone elses please keep doing them :) :) :)
TheEmi13em1 1 year ago
Where did you get the shirt :O
Pls awnser
IMorphFX 1 year ago
google chrome sucks they should make a firefox phone
shadowperson12 1 year ago
itz htc
mrgavnashka 1 year ago
it sound like gogo phone:P
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iphoneshareorg 1 year ago
google phone is definitly better.
the iphone is for newbies. its easy to handle and not complicated.
but google have much more functions, addons, programming usw.
Numira 1 year ago
where did you get your shirt its pimp
jamesbenderisaiah 1 year ago
Go Johnny Go ... thumb's UP ....
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PhoenixGuy85006 1 year ago
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JustShowMez 1 year ago
My bro has a htc desire (same thing as the nexus one, just published with this name because it wasnt out yet in europe) and it has no signal at 50% of all the time :D He spent lots of money for a phone that's not working for phone calls.
But HEY!!! It can do many other things... Taking pictures, playing games, writing and recieving e-mail and so on .de
Who needs a mobile phone you can do phone calls with ?! xD
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147batista 1 year ago
U had an iPod shirt last time now a YouTube hoodie cool shit
mods245 1 year ago
Iphone RULZ! dude cool shirt :D
goricanec666 1 year ago
Nexus one sux
Applelover950 1 year ago
@Applelover950 i can tell by your name that you dont know shit about good systems
shinerunner65 1 year ago
Wow. I was surprised when apple made the iPhone and now Google are making the Google Phone. Anyone else think Google making a phone is weird?
CameronS654321 1 year ago 9
@CameronS654321
Being as they built the Android operating system from the ground up... not really. Google has plans for world domination.
UnloadFM1 1 year ago
@UnloadFM1 the head of google is probaly one rich bastard. He or she owns youtube and google. Then again I heard somewhere that Google still haven't made the money back that they used to buy Youtube.
CameronS654321 1 year ago
@UnloadFM1 That's not actually true. Android was a tiny company making mobile phone apps, then Google bought it and also employed the Android employees to the Google community. I think Android is brilliant, I have a Samsung Galaxy Icon, and I'll have a HTC Desire in a week. Check my channel for reviews on both (I still haven't finished the Galaxy reviews).
MegaAndroidFan 1 year ago
@CameronS654321 yes
MrHipohop 1 year ago
@ all of you downers for the android i personally own a droid eris and its WAY better than iphone not as many app but most of droid apps are free (and google has a dev. rescource so you can make your own apps) and like i phone the droid has many home screens, but it has a menu that holds every app on the phone. plus droid come with free mem cars eris is 8gb and moto droid is 16gb.
vincernio 2 years ago
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get a life instead of making videos about mobil phones...
ulleule 2 years ago
stop watching
Thnikk 2 years ago
@ulleule Get a life instead of trashing people?
stef4256 2 years ago 3
i'm sure his life is way better than yours
giriphotography 2 years ago 2
get a life instead of watching videos about mobile phones...
pkoicetr 1 year ago
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CHUMOROCKS 2 years ago
it's good to be a google employee ^_^
sashenka17 2 years ago
could i get this phone for like, cricket?
adioskater700 2 years ago
I Don't Know -_-"...
it looks nice but... i'm more trusted with the iphone...
qqmisakyanqq 2 years ago
stick to apple if u want an after care support if things go wrong, my money waiting for iphone v4 when it comes out.
kadhim1 2 years ago
Everyone will always be chasing after the iPhone.. only the iPhone has it all the rest are all imitation.
pavilionking06 2 years ago
@pavilionking06 The iphone doesnt have a flash for the camera. It does not have it all.
glamisfanatic 2 years ago 3
@glamisfanatic you can buy a plug-in?
Ferrymartyr 2 years ago
@Ferrymartyr cool, i can take a flash light around too and shine it on what i want to take a picture of. still not the same thing. Iphone has no flash. it doesnt have everything, epic fail
glamisfanatic 2 years ago
don't forget that it has a 1 ghz processor while the iphone has like a 600 mhz processor. It has animated wallpapers that actually respond to how you touch it. The 5 MP camera with led flash versus the iphone's 3.2 MP camera without flash. It is running a truly custom android nicknamed Flan and it is gorgeous. There is a video about the Flan on the Nexus somewhere on youtube. This phone is truly a competitor to the iphone (which is old news anyway)
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watchsponline 2 years ago
Nice Work Bro. Thanks for the info. great Job.
( what Program do you use for Broadcasting and recording your videos?)
jerwilj 2 years ago
looks like the htc hero with the droid eris my thought
theshane1996 2 years ago 3
@Fleezy
Stop going on youtube to correct peoples grammar.
PunkPictures 2 years ago
@Nogard229
You tell him!
ilikesharks2020 2 years ago
Nice review. good insight. Great job. hey Crzy hypr he says it's built by HTC in the vid pay attention. it's nice to se other AnD nerds like myself. Have you seen the Kindles with Android. Jimmy Fallen Had prototypes on the show.
frnkrizo 2 years ago
Whoa dude, please slow down when you talk. Your speech is so garbled it's impossible to pay attention to you for more than 10 seconds.
JonTerp 2 years ago
Maybe your retarded.
Nogard229 2 years ago
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Fleezyy 2 years ago
@Fleezyy
Okay Johnny Q, calm down with the English lesson. Here are some of the mistakes you made, capitalize the "M" in maybe, instead of "..." place a comma, comma before "or", and "about" instead of "bout". You should actually consider revising the entire sentence. How about them apples?
Nogard229 2 years ago 17
@Nogard229
Hey thanks for the call-out! My problems with my English is cured!
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andrecp 2 years ago
mabe u sjold lern to nott corrrecct peple soo mutsh haha im just joking
MrPlaystationboy 2 years ago
@Fleezyy "Tater Chips...LMFAO!!!
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molina225 2 years ago
google didnt design anything besides the os its built by htc
PhilipEWarren 2 years ago
@ philip- you're wrong. Google and HTC are both in charge of the hardware, That is the main reason why this prototype is so popular.
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Danold31wa 2 years ago
looks like the htc hero (US version)
Kwaynte 2 years ago
it looks cool!
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YouTube is destroying it'self with new ways to find your video, even to find a subject. I was watching a new video about connection with an person, and I can't find it back. PLEASE, YOUTUBE. YOU NEED A CATALOGUE SYSTEM THAT IS USER FRIENDLY. THE FACT THAT I CANNOT CALL YOU, WRITE TO YOU, NOR EVEN E-MAIL YOU, SHOWS A TOTAL DIDCONNECT WITH YOUR CUSTOMERS. LOOK AT WHAT I HAVE TO DO. WRITE ON A VIDEO TOTALLY DIFERENT THAN WHAT i WANT TO SAY. i WANT TO GIVE YOU MORE GOOD ADVICE SO i'M CONTINUING.
ufos22 2 years ago
Typing like an autistic child will not help your cause.
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Zerozx11645 2 years ago
rip off of eris and hd2....but looks cool
smarttechmouse 2 years ago
its pretty nice but no multi touch, check it out on engadget
snoopyalien24 2 years ago
LOVE the hoodie!
MegensBay 2 years ago
to me it looks like a mix of iphone, droid, and htc hd2
idogish 2 years ago
dude where did you get that hoddie ??
AwesomeKekeJada 2 years ago
Youtube Store
Chilloutman33 2 years ago
@AwesomeKekeJada
youtube store
snoopyalien24 2 years ago
every phone should be unlocked! all phones were unlocked here in finland but then came the fucking iphone... i almost got iphone and few months there comes 3g and again few months 3g s. well im getting n900 so no worries
uberiballo 2 years ago
0:02 lol if you look at the picture carefully you can see that the person took this picture with an iphone lol
that is one cool looking handset though..HTC make the best looking phones
Tr1Tech 2 years ago
google phone = fail
bjapan96 2 years ago
It looks like the Pre... but it won't be as good.
J0eyCasco 2 years ago
I'd totally get this phone just to switch it up between my iPhone once in a while haha :) It looks so cool
LuxueuxLin 2 years ago
anyone who knows please reply.
So can you get 3g on unlocked phones?I haven't bought an unlocked phone so I have no idea.2nd question, is it going to be a phone that you can get a 2yr contract and pay like $199 from T-mobile? Please respond if you know and thanks for the vid.
tito2694 2 years ago
:O thats look sweet!
MrCoconutii 2 years ago
sounds expensive haha
marcoolivergibson 2 years ago
1ghz processor will make it amazing, as well as the amount of ram it will have
XxBigRedxX 2 years ago
Why would it be weird to hand it out to its employees? Its google, google loves its employees and its employees love google.
MobiousBlack 2 years ago
apple makes the best touch screens ;D
rayder143 2 years ago
Apple is not a touchscreen manufacturer.
Murrzeak 2 years ago
...Yet.
flexibull 2 years ago
htc makes most of the best touch phones..
srdjanjiji 2 years ago
The G-phone sounds kinda cool : )
mrDisgustipated 2 years ago 3
Good video. I hope this isn't the design for the phone. I'd like to see something more exciting.
ItsJR516 2 years ago
yea I also think HTC made it or had a big part in this "google phone"
longisland216 2 years ago
dont worry about non-apple things
i think what your viewer want you i know is when the apple tablet coming out .
more apple news
thanks
TechBoyProductions 2 years ago
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dsquaredduffy 2 years ago
HTC? Sigh, I had a HTC Tilt, hated it....
adolescentx14 2 years ago
i dont even know why i watch these videos anymore
rioandashley 2 years ago 3
Question to Reviewers:
When you review products, do you buy them? Or does a company give them to you for free just to review them?
MajorTechFan 2 years ago
bolth... im not a reviewer, but bolth
pinsetter1991 2 years ago
@MajorTechFan If you pay attention, you'd know it's both.
agentx3 2 years ago
Real, My friend got it :)
gurragu100 2 years ago
wait so isnt this just like any android phone? like the G1 and the mytouch? how is this called the "google" phone
retroshake 2 years ago
Because the rumor is that Google designed and manufactured the phone, not just the OS (unlike how the G1, mytouch, Magic, Droid were built by HTC or Motorola).
vaLkPRODUCTiONS 2 years ago
Android is the OS that the G1 and MyTouch run on. If my assumption is correct, the "Google Phone" will be manufactured by Google.
50HitCombo 2 years ago
oops, apparently he said built by HTC (just got to that part). I suppose it's the "Google Phone" because they designed it, unlike other phones running Android.
vaLkPRODUCTiONS 2 years ago
My dad works for google.
yes, they released this phone to all google employees .
it was designed by google and the hardware was all done by HTC Records in HD
Google Always releases beta phones such as the G1 to there employees
as a Christmas present .
its not weird at all.. the phone is fast as hell and all those pictures are real
D0zerRedefined 2 years ago
Im siked for the next iphone, way I look at it. Apple never releases a product that isnt the best in its field.
The motorola droid kicks 3GS ass, but i cant wait for the next gen
arf900 2 years ago
It's supposed to be running Android 2.1 and supposedly something revolutionary with the camera... my guess google goggles fully optimized with facial recognition, with one click.
smoothe14 2 years ago
Nice video, thanks.
TheiTouchZone 2 years ago
You said "actually" 13 times in this video.
You need a larger vocabulary, you "actually" get annoying after a while.
diabolodude 2 years ago
You know, you don't "actually" have to watch it.
grigsbyjw 2 years ago
here comes another iPhone killer.
rolokan53 2 years ago 6
Good job dude.
linusb212 2 years ago
i got some peeps at google... ill see if they can hook me up
willsmidlein 2 years ago
Wait isn't that the nexus one lol?
paintballguy113 2 years ago 2
wow cool phone thanks 4 the review
305raye 2 years ago
i think its just another iphone knockoff
ZenGuy12 2 years ago
android is better than iphone firmware...
jasonkirchman 2 years ago
@jasonkirchman In your opinion, correct?
agentx3 2 years ago
yes in my opionion mainly because im on verizon and cant get an iPhone haha but i really do love my droid its really nice
jasonkirchman 2 years ago
@jasonkirchman So you really don't have experience with an iPhone? lol
agentx3 2 years ago
haha no but i had an ipod touch 2g!
jasonkirchman 2 years ago
@jasonkirchman Nothing like an iPhone 3GS lol
agentx3 2 years ago
no it is haha its alot like one! and also does alot the iphone does. but the iphone also does alot the droid doesnt
jasonkirchman 2 years ago
ACTUALLY?!?! LOL
Samchat123 2 years ago
you can see an iPhone in the refelection of the phone 1:04
chivasgeek741 2 years ago
haha you can
ZenGuy12 2 years ago
@chivasgeek741 Good eye. But u cud of seen it in the beginning too
lmao
SilverWing9999 2 years ago
Funny how i dont own a Macintosh or iPhone but i know my stuff xD
chivasgeek741 2 years ago
hahah me too :D
robertevans133 2 years ago
aha, everyone knows what an iphone and a imac look like
SilverWing9999 2 years ago
google is taking over haha
l00neyxCuz 2 years ago
Ha the guy is using an iphone to take a picture of the gphone
musicguy2013 2 years ago
At 1:08, there is a white iPhone in the reflection of the screen lol.
russianmob13 2 years ago
Google stated that they would design the phone from scratch and have HTC manufacture it... but it just looks like any other dull HTC phone...
JuuuuustAJ 2 years ago
good video but too many "ums" in it. not that im perfect myself, just a tip to help make the videos better
AlexsTechChannel 2 years ago
google FTF
ipodhacker32 2 years ago 2
that phone looks like its running android 2.1 which is already available if you have root haha but damn i cant wait to get that phone :D
kfc2991 2 years ago
looks just like the htc eris
warner107 2 years ago
i think the google shirt would have been more appropriate!!
eseayen 2 years ago
Get a life.
BurntCatMedia 2 years ago
ummm well your the one who needs a life all i was doing was making a light hearted comment that Mark should have worn his google shirt to make this video!!
eseayen 2 years ago
Don't take it personally, and you're right, I was projecting. I'm sorry.
BurntCatMedia 2 years ago
@eseayen googe owns youtube? i think
CommercialsKid 2 years ago
yea they do they bought them last year... his video is about google tho haha...
eseayen 2 years ago
google FTW
evi0blackeagle 2 years ago
Although it could run on 4g speeds. Seeing as Sprint has already started unveiling their 4g network AT&T might catch on soon.
jshaw6000 2 years ago
As soon as I saw this I immediately knew that it was designed by HTC because it looks exactly like my Hero.
This is basically just an unlocked version of the Sprint Hero: same camera, same design/shape, same track ball, same softtouch cover, etc. It might have a bigger processor though which the Hero badly needs.
jshaw6000 2 years ago
1:03 the guy is using an iphone to take the picture. smart guy
KlutchAndJerel 2 years ago
Ya, I noticed that. And one of the pictures, a guy is using a MBP.
TimDeNomie 2 years ago
i gots the G1 :D (it reminds me of mac, because my G1 wont exept files from a pc file, though the file can be similar, the downlaods only work from another G1,linux (non-windows), mac,HTC or iphones/ipod)
RenekaStudios 2 years ago
Spekalating xD
MGuniverse 2 years ago
haha. i have that exact bb in the background in the first pic. same case and all
kickingvids 2 years ago
lol hes taking the pictures with a iphone
gurvir44 2 years ago 2
haha i saw that
kickingvids 2 years ago
i thought that too, but look closer, the camera is on the left side and its supposed to be on the right.
Gangstarasp1 2 years ago
ha you saw that too, and he has a blackberry on the table below
gee1234567890 2 years ago
lol i didn't notice that till i saw this
fusionDX 2 years ago
so it wont run on a super secret google service?
SobeFILMS 2 years ago
wow, if its not one internet company making a phone its another
TheOtherHacker 2 years ago
i thought g1 was the google phone
TajJad8 2 years ago
SAME
moonchavs123 2 years ago
it is, it's the bestest phone eva! (til the g3 lol)
RenekaStudios 2 years ago
lol the picture he is showing most of the video was taken by an iphone lol
featherman9 2 years ago
iPhone FTW
TFDgohan 2 years ago 2
I'm NEVER getting a google phone/OS. I'm okay if they track my searches or e-mail, but my cell phone calls and computer usage is tooooo much.
xsonicbladex 2 years ago
Int the picture with the X on the screen you can see that they took the pic with an iPhone lol
CountryBoyView 2 years ago
looks like a similar version to the HTC Hero
DanTheNextSpielberg 2 years ago
I have a HTC Hero
It fucking rox
minoshman1 2 years ago
It looks cool
nuparux 2 years ago
I love google's approach to market releases. They keep the world well informed about their technologies, listen to ideas, release them in advance, work on the shortcomings and then finally provide full fledged service to the end user. This is very much opposite to Apple's approach which is more about secrecy and bringing in products with a bang. Apple always works on the wow factor. But frankly, Google's way is more worthwhile in the long run.
TejasM14 2 years ago 2
Was the first picture taken by an iPhone? :O
TheRadOreo 2 years ago
LOL, if it was, this phone actually looks pretty decent enough to buy :)
FaithFullMemory 2 years ago
good!
diazguzman2021 2 years ago
We gotta stop calling phone "iPhone Killer" we have to judge evenly. Nothing can compete with Apples phone.
iBellix 2 years ago 3
you say beta test... but if it were only out to employees wouldn't it be an alpha?
usamaki10 2 years ago