They're not all the same. They contain glutamate (for the "umami" flavor) and have the same purpose, but they're not exactly MSG. Vegemite is "yeast extract", for example. Though if you're afraid of MSG, you'd logically want to avoid all of those.
It's easy to avoid. Don't like MSG? Don't eat food with MSG. Too lazy to read the ingredients? Buy unprocessed food. There's plenty around no matter where you're from. I don't see what's so difficult about it. Nobody is forcing it on you.
@Psydecar unreal...you're still at it. I remember a couple months ago you were saying MSG was harmless...now you are saying "hey, if you don't like it...don't buy it." I would rebut this but blabla9able has said all that needs to be said. If the glutamate salt is less than 99% pure, they are justified in calling it "yeast extract" or a host of other names. Also, I don't think you understand the difference between acute and chronic toxins, or at least the mechanisms behind such chronic toxins
@staratsx I don't think he was implying that its particularly harmful all of a sudden, just that instead of complaining on the internet you can simply avoid it. I agree with him that if you think that something is bad, you're free to not consume it.
Maybe if the people throwing around the MSG is deadly thing weren't the same type of woomeisters who think vaccines are evil, we'd take them more seriously.
Thanx for the info. Why do we buy this crap full of MSG, taste should come from good quality ingredients, like herbs, vegetables etc. But that is more expensive. So the food industry instead makes a base product, adds MSG (E621) and it tastes like the best product in the world! PEOPLE WAKE UP!! The food industry is a dirty one, and the larger the company the worse it gets. Unilever, Pepsico, Procter & Gamble, eeeeeww.
Even a lot of processed food doesn't have it, anyway. The hot dogs and canned meats I use rarely have it. Hell, I'm eating a packet of chips with no added MSG right now, and I'm someone who couldn't care less about avoiding it. No major country has banned it as far as I know, and I've had food from several countries with it. Make your own soup. It's not difficult. I choose to add MSG-containing stock to my soup if i want to, but you don't have to. Instant soup usually sucks anyway.
Most people aren't allergic to any noticeable extent, and at least a few who claim to be only displayed the effects after being told that they've been taken MSG. That is the current scientific consensus, and claiming otherwise would need more proof (this has been going on since the 80s, mind). Everyone I know has been using MSG-added products for years with no effects. If you don't want MSG, don't buy processed food, which is you shouldn't eat much of anyway (because of high sodium content).
Josjikawa, You may be allergic, and a few others may be allergic (or believe they're allergic), but many others aren't. Should they ban everything that people may be allergic to then? Peanuts? If you personally have a problem with MSG, don't have food with it. Simple as. It's much easier to avoid than people think.
@Psydecar msg alergic reactions seem to develop over time, u might not be alergic for it now but it can come anytime, it starts innocent with just a warm head or headache which most people have after eating this
i think i might be alergic for this stuff but its so hard to evade it in my country, i often get symptoms of diarhea, dizzyness, hyperventilation, panic attacks, unable to think clear, hart rytm malfunctions (1 hard beat or just too quickly beating) and feeling sick in my stomach :( ive been to to hospital multiple times, had my heart, blood, feces and stomach examined and nothing was found so the only thing that i suspect is this little toxin. hope it gets banned some day
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I knew this a long time ago yet now I found a link for me to share and for you to question or review. Sorry I can't seem to paste the links. Also, remember that MSG contains sodium.
And once again MSG is not completely the same as Glutamic Acid, Glutamate, or Umami.
I have a question. Is Glutamate and Glutamic Acid similar? ie. If a person have an allergy to MSG, then would it also have the same effect on users of Glutamic Acid which is known to be a brain supplement combined with other minerals like calcium?
@whatsgoingonyall Nobody told you with clear writing what was in the product you purchased, just because they put alot of shit in their food. This is very interesting, you just suck bro.
@Govadina i have, whats bad about it? I love MSG i eat it rawly in small quantaties. I don´t have any effects of this.. i did this for years, it´s like i crave for it like 1-2 days a month sometimes, but it doesn´t show any side effects i notice.
For those who doubt all this would you have believed that for 40-odd years people were told smoking was not harmful and was even good for clearing out the lungs? Money talks.
Europe still has MSG. It's just not allowed in certain food products like milk and juices.
Finland at least, definitely has MSG products (according to a friend who lives there), and German scientists have claimed that MSG in levels present in food is harmless (similar claims have been made by American and Chinese scientists). The only real concerns are with infants. It's definitely less risky than foods with high sugar content (like sodas) or trans-fats (greasy fast food burgers) anyway.
@SuperWoodgod The food industry in Europe is given a period of time to eliminate MSG, this has to be done by 2014... Many fabricants already promote their products don't have any flavour enhancers or MSG anymore...
Medical studies have reported that MSG is linked to brain cell damage in rats. The only reason MSG is still on the market in the USA (and not in Europe for example) it's because it's a massive scam to sell plain over exploited agriculture that lacks taste. If you know you hate MSG because it's poison (it's too hard to educate everyone in here, clearly) watch for the other label they managed to hide under (the FDA told me) as "hydrolized vergetable protein" or hydrolized vegetable - anything
In the 2004 version of his book On Food and Cooking, food enthusiast and author Harold McGee states that "[after many studies], toxicologists have concluded that MSG is a harmless ingredient for most people, even in large amounts."[32]
Also someone from that oh so "noble" institute had sent a legal threat to a blogger who stated his concerns about the "Peter Kay" situation. No different from typical quacks. I can't believe that you people actually think you all are the rational ones. Being knowledgeable in biochemistry doesn't prevent one from being gullible.
@Psydecar I can't believe you have the minerals to accuse ME of being gullible - and the only reason you know my educational background is because you openly flaunted your own. This is not an ego game, we are all in this together. When will you see that?
Burzynski's PhD status is also questionable. And the fact that there are no side effects is utter nonsense. here are plenty of articles about this guy. And for someone who claims that corporations are greedy, you don't seem to have any problem with him charging a $200,000 for his "trials" that have been going on since the 70s with no proven results. Appeals to nature and emotions are powerful things it seems. Please bring up more idots of the Mike Adams ilk though.
@Psydecar There's nothing new here. It's all been said before. I applaud you for regurgitating it. You've only just heard of Burzynski and suddenly you're an expert on him? His doctoral status is not questionable. He studied overseas, which is something the FDA openly advertised as soon as they learned it (along with other mounds of shit they flung in hopes it would stick to people like you). His institution has confirmed his presence and has provided a CV - What's questionable?
I like how basically all of you people's responses are "no you're wrong" and "you are believing government lies" and appearing to be more intelligent than you really are. The burden of proof lies with you people. You're all lucky that you're even allowed to spread your crap.
@Psydecar Someone once said "I am only responsible for what I say, not what you interpret." If you can truly summarize what I've said in my posts below with what you have in quotes there, then there is less hope for you than I thought.
...Or that every government in the world works together? I don't completely trust the government in certain issues, but if you think that cancer cures are being withheld you're just crazy. It's not like people in the government have families or anything right?
At least now I know what breed of moron I'm dealing with and won't bother with you nutters ever again. Enjoy your "alternative" bunk.
@Psydecar Find a youtube video 'Dr Burzynski movie (full version)' to shed some light on the power structure of the world.. seriously, let ,e know your thoughts on this, maybe we can further discuss things.. cheers friend
@Psydecar Thank you Psydecar, for displaying to all of us that you really are a closed minded jackass. You won't even let any new information pass through your thick skull. It was good advice he gave you, to watch the Burzynski film, because it is part of your belief system that our government would never have a hand in suppressing cures for cancer. I have been following Burzynski for a while and I think it's great that people have this documentary to watch now. Bullshit propaganda? Get real.
One last post before I completely ignore this. A lot of people mention excitotoxicity. The problem with the claim, is while it can happen, glutamate doesn't cross the barrier in the brain if you're healthy. It also has to be in extremely high levels. You'd probably have to deliberately take more MSG than normal and have an illness that affects the blood-brain barrier to have any significant negative effect.
@Psydecar I didn't say that alternative practitioners were't interested in getting paid, but most of them (that I've met) care more about helping others and contributing to society than making a name for themselves and making copious amounts of cash. And it sounds like you have a rough understanding of how the blood-brain barrier works. That's great, but there...
@Psydecar ...are areas in the brain (and this is well documented) that are not protected by the BBB, such as the hypothalamus. And *it has been documented* in mice that prolonged exposure to free glutamate ion (at the same concentration as in our food additives) gives rise to brain damage as a result of it crossing the BBB and leaching into the brain. Not to mention that the BBB is not fully developed in infants, and some infant formulas are riddled with this stuff.
You people are hilarious. By the way, the website linked looks like absolute nonsense. But continue your selective reading and believing in whatever bullshit helps you sleep at night.
@Psydecar Unlike yourself, I read anything and everything presented to me, objectively. It is obvious that you yourself have only read what was necessary for your course curriculum, and have not advanced much further mentally. I decide for myself what is and what is not bullshit based on my past readings and experiences. You should try it so you can actually partake in intelligent discussion instead of saying things like "one last post before I completely ignore this," which basically...
@Psydecar ...communicates to me "I have clearly run out of things to say." And for the record....with all of your faith in doctors nowadays...medical school has been taken in the complete wrong direction in recent years. I'm not the only one to have noticed, and even doctors themselves agree with me. I spoke with a very well published and genius M.D. Ph.D just two months ago who made me promise I'd never go to med school if it continues in this direction. Lol.
@staratsx And I decide what I read by whether I think the information is passed on by "rational" people, and not quacks.
I don't want to continue the argument because this is Youtube, and any effort will be wasted here. That and you lost any credibility by claiming to have faith in chiropractic, and acupuncture nonsense.
@Psydecar I don't think it would be wasted here. In some instances, this is where people come to learn about topics which they are unfamiliar with. When I see comments like yours, I feel obliged to provide our peers with a rebuttal to unfounded nonsense or negative remarks. And sure, I have lost all my credibility [to you], by claiming to have faith in genuine doctors (whether they're chiropractors or MD's), but I honestly couldn't give a fuck less about your opinion (as it stands now).
Just to finish though, the "organic" crowd could actually get some respect if it wasn't for their own elite and negative attitudes, commenting in almost every video about a meat or cheese related product with how it's unhealthy or whatever, and how the government is forcing it down our throats. Bonus points for rudeness or saying that we're unintelligent barbarians. Just "woo" nonsense trying to appeal to the gullible.
@Psydecar What the hell are you on about now? I guess our discussion is over judging by the amount of times you jump from one topic to the next. I'm glad this is over. You've contributed nothing. I was hoping to learn at least one thing from you in all of that. Peace & love.
@Psydecar that is your perception, not necessarily the truth..you believe that foods are safe because you believe that there are safety nets for this type of thing, ie the government looks after you, like they look after your kids with your nutritious school dinners LOL With the amount of people getting cancer these days it doesn't add up that people would be so protective over there food and not question everything they eat. Oh yea and cancer cures are being suppressed.. Welcome to reality
@crisisofconsciousnes Ok. I said I wouldn't post here anymore, but I couldn't let this go. There are higher cancer rates, yes, but people also live longer and there are better means of detection than there used to be which at least partially explain it. I don't put my faith in the government, but I won't put my faith in your woo bullshit either. I suppose Bin Laden is still alive and the moon landings never happened. You really think the government has the capability for such cover ups?
@Psydecar In regards to your 'government has the capacity' point... That is a belief, look at the science behind 911 rather than make decision based on a BELIEF.
@staratsx As for pharma, I'll just quote Ben Goldacre (You should read his book "Bad Science", which criticizes both quacks and and bad pharmaceutical practices): "Repeat after me: pharma being shit does not mean magic beans cure cancer."
I may have not read every single thing about MSG (and I see little reason to), but I've read enough to not buy into the fear mongering. I have little concerns about MSG considering other aspects of my own diet.
@Psydecar its inposible to avoid it sice its in everything like spiced meat to soups to chips and go on. theres even fake names used for this like yeast extract. atleast its like that in holland. they might banned it already in other country's. and i hope they do the same here. i dont mean like ban it completely but atleast let me choose to put that shit in myself
@Psydecar No its already almost impossible to avoid. Doesn't it mean anything to you that the food companies now try to avoid having to put MSG or "monosodiumglutamate" or E621 in the ingredients list, and instead call it yeast, yeast extract, stock, hydrolysed protein, or even FLAVOUR? Think about that, why do they do that?
Btw, I'm not saying that chiropractic doesn't help in things like backaches or something physical, but anything more than that and you're deluding yourself, and I certainly wouldn't be getting medical advice from one.
@Psydecar oh yea lets read the quackery websites, 911 conspiracy theories are crazy!! , mercury in tooth fillings is safe, sodium fluoride is good for your teeth.... WOW THANK GOD FOR QUACKERY.com
No thanks. When it comes to "alternative" bullshit, I'll keep my mind firmly shut. If it keeps you happy, good for you, but I'm not wasting my time with this any longer. I'm not a 100% on doctors, but I'll take them over quacks any day. You're acting like "alternative" morons aren't in it for profit themselves. I'll keep using cooked meat and dairy, as people have been for years. I have no interest in "improved physiology" or living until I'm 120, and would rather enjoy what I eat.
MSG makes me very, very sick. I wish they would quit putting it in all of our foods. I can hardly eat ANYTHING in the grocery store or go out to eat anymore. It sucks.
If only I'd read the description and seen that this guy received his doctorate from a "chiropractic" institution, instead of wasting my time. Fucking pseudoscience
@Psydecar bias does go both ways, but there is stronger intent within those who profit largely when a certain conclusion is adopted, as compared to the individual researcher. "The FDA are of no concern where you live." Wonderful, that makes my point completely moot doesn't it - because you're not affected by it. I'm not at all surprised you would say something like that.
@Psydecar You have a "dim view" of the "natural movement"?? Given your educational background (which you openly display in your posts and on your profile), you should understand the importance of evolution as it relates to our diet and metabolism. It's very good that you have a degree, but you should seriously consider reading some books. It's no coincidence that athletes and average individuals alike who adopt paleo or organic diets/lifestyles witness greatly improved physiology.
@Psydecar Don't blindly bash chiropractors, you sound like a complete moron...I know many individuals and fellow athletes alike who swear by chiropractors and even acupuncturists (myself included). There is a method to their "pseudoscience." And stop throwing around words like "hippie health"....you sound fucking juvenile. Please open your mind.
@Psydecar : anyone can read scientific studies, regardless of where the degree someone received. Please study yourself. You will see that this man is telling you the truth. Look at peer reviewed studies, and you will see that this man is telling the truth. Medical doctors only have 1-2 semester hours of nutrition, so they do not know. Medical doctors mostly read the inserts in the medicines that they push.
@staratsx If any of my posts were flagged it just goes to show the idiocy of Youtube users. Comments were removed because Youtube doesn't allow editing.
The FDA are of no concern where I live, but bias goes both ways. Doesn't help that I have a dim view of the "natural" movement (another billion dollar industry with the main difference being that they're even more free to spout out whatever bullcrap they want), that a lot of anti-MSG people (who also usually claim to suffer from CRS) support.
Funny how there's not a single source that can be described as "reliable" that that supports any of the "MSG is bad" nonsense. It's mostly "new age" hippie health vegetarian run sites. Basically people see something with a chemical name and assume it's unsafe even though it occurs naturally. Soon people will complain about the evils of sodium chloride.
@Psydecar It might have something to do with the fact that most of the institutions who would deem MSG claims as "reliable" are not interested in having it removed from the shelves. What exactly would you consider a "single reliable source?" How about peer-reviewed medical journals, and research conducted by neuroscientists? It's out there, you should read them instead of spouting nonsense. Goto the library. and good job, you know highschool chemistry- sodium chloride is table salt very good
@staratsx@staratsx I could find research journals describing almost anything as bad, and studies supporting my claim. My point is even if MSG is harmful in excess, so are many other things that nobody fears. And I'm soon going to be doing my masters in genetic research, by the way, and have done two university classes each in organic chem. and biochemistry, and a class in food biology, so nice try with the attack. I specifically used sodium chloride for a reason.
@staratsx "It might have something to do with the fact that most of the institutions who would deem MSG claims as "reliable" are not interested in having it removed from the shelves." - Sounds like conspiracy nonsense to me. Yes, the government and large science institutions want people to die. That benefits them so much. That's why we're never warned about the risks related to red meats, soft drinks, high cholesterol foods, processed meats, smoking, etc.
@staratsx I think you need to read some books my friend before you jump to defend government institutions, and most importantly your ego. I'm glad you've taken university introductory food science courses, two semesters of organic, etc, that's great - I went to a major university too. This isn't a popularity contest, but I feel compelled to inform you that I have a B.S. in biochemistry. and it wasn't an "attack" dude, I'm just trying to get you to reevaluate what you're saying.
@staratsx ....and it is not my view that "large science institutions want people to die," I don't know where you got that from. In fact I'm not even sure what you mean by "large science institutions" And yes you can find journal articles that conflict eachother, it's science....that's not uncommon. Not to mention bias - and if you don't think corruption has begun to leech into the field science then I challenge you to read more about the FDA - I think you will be shocked at what you'll find.
I've never heard such bullshit, where is the clinical studies supporting your claims 'doctor'. Here is mine,
In 1988, the World Health Organization and the United Nations reviewed all the evidence and concluded that MSG ''did not represent a hazard to health''
@iis2Skool Ok, but look at how many official bodies / studies support that global warming is being caused by man... Unrelated? Nope, it proves that money and greed have totally corrupted the system. Hence what should we do? Eat close to nature is my answer. Why anyone would want to eat something that manipulates your brain into thinking it tastes better than it does is beyond me.. And the fact that it kills brain cells
So why does this opinion differ from thousands of medical and clinical tests and placebo trials that have been conducted for decades? Virtually everything has MSG added, and there are NO official reports clarifying its danger. There are also no cases to my knowledge where any ailment has been "specifically" leveled at MSG as being the cause. No FDA or other department has banned MSG, so again I ask - where is the proof of this opinion?
@trulykiwi Well, the sad thing is my friend, the FDA is a corrupt lobby-paid organization that doesn't care shit about your health or the health of anyone in this country, and if you're so naive to believe them or trust in them, well, then you're headed for a big big disappointment.
@Jabberwock156 Okay I have enough of this now..... Where is the PROOF of what you say? How the hell do you KNOW CATEGORICALLY that the FDA is a CORRUPT organisation?? I challenge you to provide me with something CONCRETE to substantiate your claims!! Now I will wait and see what transpires.... I don't want to hear what "someone else" has said about it, "videos" about it, or "books" about it - these are all corrupt in their own right. SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE that would convict in court!
@trulykiwi So, let me get this straight...according to your argument, if I cannot personally prove corruption exists, then it doesn't exist? So, do you believe EVERYONE in the world is good and NO ONE is corrupt? because that's what you're implying. You want evidence? Sure, check out "The World According to Monsanto". There's all the evidence you need.
@Jabberwock156 Typically you have "expanded" my comment to cover ALL corruption! What I stated was with regard to YOUR CERTAINTY that the FDA is a corrupt body! I am not interested in anything else. You stated "the FDA is a corrupt lobby-paid organization" meaning you KNOW FOR SURE that this is the case. If you are just offering your opinion based on hearsay, you would not have used the word "is". Of course people are corrupt, it is everywhere, including in stories of conspiracy.
the FDA is corrupt cuz the government is corrupt. It's the government that subsidizes those companies that make shit food or produce shit products like HFCS. The American FDA labels MSG as SAVE while the European Union labels it as a food additive and should only be used in small quantities. I believe the Europeans over the Americans when it comes to food and this is coming from an American. But you're free to buy crap food, just as ur free to kill urself, it's about freedom.
@jacquelineveronique Yeah well again, we only have your word to go that the government is corrupt! Prove it! And... I am in New Zealand & Australia (non American) and our governments say the following:... Food Standards Australia New Zealand[31] (FSANZ) cites "overwhelming evidence from a large number of scientific studies" to explicitly deny any link between MSG and "serious adverse reactions" or "long-lasting effects", declaring MSG "safe for the general population" - I guess that means nothin
you have your head to deep up the asses of companies that make MSG, big companies that are lying. Google for " Aspartame has been Renamed and is Now Being Marketed as a Natural Sweetener " and see what a liars they are selling their lab created substances as "natural substances " I don't care of NZ has FDA, I don't care about that country at all that is ticked away in a non useful part of the world. Nobody lives there, only some deported criminals from Europe.
@jacquelineveronique Again your research is pathetic! The criminals you speak of that were deported from Europe, went to Australia, not New Zealand - Google it! Aspartame is NOT MSG, it is an artificial sweetener, originally called Nutrisweet, and the fact that it is harmful is something I agree with you about. If memory serves me correctly it was manufactured by a company called Monsanto, and it is a company born in your country - AMERICA!
the research was already done by the European Union thus I don't need to listen to your biased lies. NZ or AUS, same part of the world same shit in the way of oppressing the native inhabitants. MSG or Aspartame are made by corrupt companies, no difference here. Monsanto is a corrupt company that controls 50 % of the food chain in the US. This is why the FDA says all they make is good while sensible people, like me, don't by shit food with Monsanto shit in it.
@jacquelineveronique yeah I'm done with you. People like you spout off at the mouth thinking you know more than you do, all for some insane personal justification that you are worthy of an adult conversation consisting of facts rather than hearsay. You're American living in someone else's country, quoting someone else's theory. Oppression? You should check out your own countries history of oppression! The only country in the world that infiltrates all others - except NZ! We kicked your ass out!
we used to have oppression and we have made mistakes but we have learned from it. Hence, we have a black president while in Australia and NZ the aborigines and Maoris are still treated as second class citizens.
@jacquelineveronique You still have oppression! Who are you trying to kid? Look at some of the footage that comes through about black brutality and bashings. Look at how many countries your country has infiltrated and assumed control over!! Look at the middle east and the mess you made over there!! As for coloured people in politics, we (in NZ) have had Maori representation in parliament for decades. We even have a Maori party! Look up Winston Peters. We have also had women prime ministers!
we have no oppression in America and we liberated the Iraqis from their brutal dictator although I didn't support the war simply because each country must decide its own destination. There might be some maori in parliament but the law in NZ is that violence against maoris is okay while in America it's not
@jacquelineveronique You call it liberation, the rest of the world calls it senseless occupation. That "dictator" has been dead for years now, and still the soldiers are there. What's more they are fighting a losing battle. There is ONE law here, and maoris break it 7:1 over white people. However if I went down the street and bashed a maori, I would either be given a hiding, or arrested. There is no difference IN LAWS!
we should we want to be in NZ ? All I know about NZ is that you have kiwis, but whose also have added MSG to the kiwi fruit as of today. I prefer to eat a organic orange from Spain
Food Standards Australia New Zealand[31] (FSANZ) cites "overwhelming evidence from a large number of scientific studies" to explicitly deny any link between MSG and "serious adverse reactions" or "long-lasting effects", declaring MSG "safe for the general population".
But in EU they are more reserved about calling it safe, it seems EU cares about the people and Australia and NZ don't care about the safety about people, no wonder when they are descendants from criminals
@jacquelineveronique and here is another reference to thE "SENSIBLE SAFETY" OF msg - In the 2004 version of his book On Food and Cooking, food enthusiast and author Harold McGee states that "[after many studies], toxicologists have concluded that MSG is a harmless ingredient for most people, even in large amounts. - I guess this "Harold McGee" doesn't know what he is talking about! OH SHIT, maybe he is one of these pathetic alleged ILLUMINATI we hear about!
But the European Union, based on findings by European scientists, say you should use it only in small quantities, but if you want to believe your moronic NZ FDA go ahead. For all I care you take liquid acid. I won't mind
@jacquelineveronique You call me Moronic, (or my country) and yet you are the one who clearly has done NO research on this issue. ALL countries have stated the same thing about the use of MSG, idiot! But that is no different to saying "drink only moderate amounts of Coke" or "Only eat small amounts of sugar" - and one more thing you twat, NZ does not have an FDA. I think you spend too much time watching Ellen and Oprah. I don't know what you graduated in, but it wasn't market research!
NZ has 4 million people or so and EU about 500 million and I bet there are more sensible scientist among 500 million people than among 4 million people. Secondly, how much money does MSG companies donate to you for spreading dangerous substances. It would like me getting paid by Mexican drug cartels and telling the public heroin is not harmful or if I get paid by Philip Morris telling others smoking is not harmful.
@jacquelineveronique This statement sums up your intelligence! MSG is NOT a chemical, it is a natural substance and is in almost all foods. Heroin is a product created by man to kill other people and we don't have a heroin problem in this country. Do you eat potato chips, McDonalds, KFC, Soup, etc etc?? All of these things have MSG added to them - I bet you have not stopped eating them!
cocaine is a natural substance, so are some mushrooms that can kill you. Not all that is natural is good. MSG is fabricated in labs by pharmaceutical companies and passed as 'natural 'and supported by people like you for, perhaps, political reasons
MSG is used in Chinese Food, BUT is added to many other foods under 20+ different names, some not even listed on the label. This EXCITOTOXIN can cause: headaches, migraines, stomach upset, nausea, neurological disorders (Parkinson's, MS, ALS, Alzheimer's), behavioral disorders (in children & teens), vomiting, diarrhea, irritable bowel syndrome, asthma attacks, shortness of breath, anxiety or panic attacks, heart palpitations, partial paralysis, balance difficulties, mental confusion, etc.
I'm still skeptical about the whole harmful effects of MSG. My family is Chinese and my grandpa always use MSG in the meals that he cooks and we had no problem with it. 15 Aunts and Uncles, 4 Grandparents, 19 Cousins, all uses MSG in their food and I have never been to a funeral, I'm 18. My grandpa is turning 91 this month and he's been using MSG since he was 15, he is healthy and strong, he can still bench press over 150 pounds... So I find this hard to believe....
I'm kinda in a shock because of the dream... I think I'm not going to shut up quietly this time and take it. I'm doing a blog or something to combat this nightmare! Enough with NWO poisoning!, GMO foods, fluoride, additives, chemicals... this is war... and they have a rebellion.
it's 5 AM here, this is the third time i woke up this night after waking up with a strong sensation of Heartburn. This after eating baked cakes of chokolate and poppy. I had a dream before waking the third time and in it a man told me "sodium glutamate and bicarbonate”. I don't understand in this so I searched for this and found it's a most widespread artificially produced food additive.
@pomaslu in other words take baking soda(sodium bicarbonate)but get it from the health food store,but arm an hammer will work temporarely.one spoon full in about 8oz water will beat heart burn or acid every time.it will make you burp it out.I have to take it sometimes too.If you got to sleep with acid in you chest an throat it will make you choke.The acid will come up an hit your throat an make you gasp for air until you catch your breath,an it wont go away unless to do something .good luck
@tomhikooo I'm curious, how is health food store sodium bicarbonate better than Arm and Hammer? Surely they're both the same compound with comparable levels of purity (they're both food grade). One's just three times the price of the other.
Studies have been done giving people thousands or milligrams per day (over 100 grams) with no problems whatsoever. Our bodies naturally produce around 40,000 milligrams Glutimate per day.
Believe it or not MSG began as a broth made from seaweed because that broth then contained lots of MSGs.
The main issue here is with regards to nutrition, so if you consume a large amount of something whether MSG or whatever and are not getting the other nutrients then you may have problems (allergies etc.).
couple weeks ago i ate Chinese i got sick for more then week and couldn't eat for 5 days, i felt like i was going to die i had shortness of breath and palpitations when i was sleeping it sucked big time, couple days ago i ate Chinese food again but not much and the same thing happened only i didn't eat that much and im just getting over being sick.
@Negr0id The question you and others should ask yourselves is why doesn't the millions of Chinese and Japanese who eats tons of MSG have problems with it?
I came here because I looked in the ingredients of these crisps I was eating, Why does everyone over-react, it's not going to kill you, or make you go INSANE, just relax and eat the foods you enjoy :) Don't let some bald man on the internet tell you what not to enjoy!
Right, I can go for one of two types of food snack, one with and without MSG, wither way I'm having a snack, I will choose the tastier one with MSG because obviously it makes me feel good eating it, regardless I'll only have one because I'm able to restrain how much junk food I eat, ANYTHING is bad in massive concentrations, it's about enjoying what you want in moderation :) but the media has blown all this out of proportion, this man says "this bad" with no scientific backup.
Lol, anyone who SERIOUSLY believes this is going to be one of those people who are scared of everything everyone tells them, aspartame and MSG are completely harmless, we all love eating these foods and they are pleasurable and that is a great thing, this man has presented NO evidence, he has simply told you a load of crap and eveyone is soaking it up. And why are food companies evil? It's just like putting a coat of paint over your product to make it look better.
Part I of 3. Allowing just 1 name for this would give us a fighting chance to avoid! But no! Always contains Glutamate: Glutamic acid, Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) Yeast extract, Anything “hydrolyzed”Any “hydrolyzed protein” Calcium caseinate Sodium caseinate Yeast food Yeast nutrient Autolyzed yeast Gelatin Textured protein Soy protein, soy protein concentrate Soy protein isolate Whey protein, whey protein concentrate Whey protein isolate Most anything claiming to be “protein” Vetsin Ajinomoto
Part 2 Often contain or produce processed free glutamic acid which acts like Glutamate: Carrageenan, Bouillon. broth Stock “flavors” or “flavoring” Maltodextrin Citric acid, Citrate Anything “ultra-pasteurized” Barley malt Pectin Protease Anything “enzyme modified” Anything containing “enzymes” Malt extract Soy sauce Soy sauce extract Anything “protein fortified” Anything “fermented” Even “Seasonings” may or may not be! (Un-fooled around with glutamic acid in whole foods causes no problems.)
Part 3 of 3. Think MSG not YOUR problem? Consider if someone having an uncontrollable rage reaction from a too well hidden source attacks YOU or YOUR loved one?! VERY sensitive People will even react to these, some of which admittedly actually have legit reasons to be in foods. Corn starch Corn syrup Modified food starch Lipolyzed butter fat Dextrose Rice syrup Brown rice syrup Milk powder Reduced fat milk (skim; most things low fat or no fat) Anything Enriched Anything Vitamin “enriched”
Note there is such a being as a Troll. Not the fantasy kind. Name for someone hired by an industry to belittle anyone who warns about its product on Youtube & other places. If you notice the same name popping up over & over & over again belittling any good point anyone makes against a dangerous product, suspect that person is one. Industry also hires cleaners to immediately fix Wikipedia if more accurate information about a dangerous product is put in an article. Don't go there for health info!
This is what is fueling the Autism epidemic. we really don't have an Autism epidemic. We have an epidemic of sick Autists. I eat it I have a melt down. It also causes brain damage in us because our brains have such high levels already. FDA lets it hide in foods under 40 names! Go to truthinlabeling to learn what these are. In every live virus vaccine under name hydrolyzed protein used there as preservative. Big Pharma sells us glutamate blockers which help but yet puts same chemical in shots!
@Supermassively Know this stuff causes rage reactions in ME, & FDA allows it to hide in foods, IVs & every live virus vaccine under 40 names! Big Pharma makes big bucks selling us Glutamate blockers to stop the rage reactions & brain damage excess Glutamate causes. At the same time claim injecting it into us will not harm us! Know an Autist who went in hospital for a non-Autism related condition, had an IV inserted & had a rage reaction due to the "hydrolyzed protein" in IV. Put in psych ward!
@Supermassively Don't post for 2 days. Then I post, BAM within moments here comes Supermassively! Pro-vaccine Troll even used same defense of dangerouus product he used. “It damaged me so ANYTHING I SAY against it must be totally wrong.” (Can we say “REALLY weird circular logic?!”) TOO much time to be defending MSG. Follows troll-script to letter: “ridicule & cast doubt on established research & when people point out personal experiences confirming research, ridicule personal traits of posters!
@Supermassively Folks, google terms, Autism+ sick monkeys. Learn what has been discovered about how vaccine-overload is causing my kind's severe, very painful gut agony + our social difficulties. Without this damage my genetic type would be here anyway but doing many wonderful things for society again, As Tesla in his younger days vs Tesla in his older days when he was damaged as many of us are now before school! Read facts, not Supermassively's (highly likely) industry paid for ridicule.
@OmegaSeekerr More conspiracy theorist bullshit. You really destroy your argument when you claim blatant falsehoods like accusing someone of working for some industry that they've never been associated with, simply because they present facts and logic to counter your uneducated horse shit.
@f4rtg34ji Couldn't have said it better. The level of ignorance from the mindless crowd that actually accepts this "MSG is an evil toxin" bullshit, just blows my mind.
@MichaelVelten Hahaha, it's a great laugh seeing someone sharing his delusional "fluoride additives" conspiracy theories and then telling someone else to do their research. Nothing in your comment is based on fact. Nothing.
@Supermassively exactly Ridicule then Violent Opposition. You kind of proved my point by the name calling. Don't be mad though a lot of "Sheeple" like you are just fat and happy.
@EzbilliardsSoCal Calling people "sheeple" kills your credibility almost as much as does using words like "toxins" and "negative energies". Just makes you sound like some whackjob conspiracy theorist who lives in mom's basement smoking weed all day.
Not all people are sheep. But all the ones that keep feeding themselves and their kids all this crap without even reading what they are eating or caring. Yeah they are sheep!! I was once almost 400lbs. Now I am 250lbs. My mom died from eating all the wrong foods at 60 years old. I also was told that my son needed to be put on meds. Well funny thing happened there, I switched our diet from processed foods to organic and like magic my son has no more problems!! So when I speak its from experience
Chicken McNuggets are good?
JakesHomeWorkouts 3 days ago
alot of chinese restaurants here in nyc says no msg on the menu but does have it
pimpmegirl 1 week ago
They're not all the same. They contain glutamate (for the "umami" flavor) and have the same purpose, but they're not exactly MSG. Vegemite is "yeast extract", for example. Though if you're afraid of MSG, you'd logically want to avoid all of those.
It's easy to avoid. Don't like MSG? Don't eat food with MSG. Too lazy to read the ingredients? Buy unprocessed food. There's plenty around no matter where you're from. I don't see what's so difficult about it. Nobody is forcing it on you.
Psydecar 2 weeks ago
@Psydecar unreal...you're still at it. I remember a couple months ago you were saying MSG was harmless...now you are saying "hey, if you don't like it...don't buy it." I would rebut this but blabla9able has said all that needs to be said. If the glutamate salt is less than 99% pure, they are justified in calling it "yeast extract" or a host of other names. Also, I don't think you understand the difference between acute and chronic toxins, or at least the mechanisms behind such chronic toxins
staratsx 1 week ago
@staratsx I don't think he was implying that its particularly harmful all of a sudden, just that instead of complaining on the internet you can simply avoid it. I agree with him that if you think that something is bad, you're free to not consume it.
Maybe if the people throwing around the MSG is deadly thing weren't the same type of woomeisters who think vaccines are evil, we'd take them more seriously.
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Psydecar 2 weeks ago
Thanx for the info. Why do we buy this crap full of MSG, taste should come from good quality ingredients, like herbs, vegetables etc. But that is more expensive. So the food industry instead makes a base product, adds MSG (E621) and it tastes like the best product in the world! PEOPLE WAKE UP!! The food industry is a dirty one, and the larger the company the worse it gets. Unilever, Pepsico, Procter & Gamble, eeeeeww.
blabla9able 2 weeks ago
Even a lot of processed food doesn't have it, anyway. The hot dogs and canned meats I use rarely have it. Hell, I'm eating a packet of chips with no added MSG right now, and I'm someone who couldn't care less about avoiding it. No major country has banned it as far as I know, and I've had food from several countries with it. Make your own soup. It's not difficult. I choose to add MSG-containing stock to my soup if i want to, but you don't have to. Instant soup usually sucks anyway.
Psydecar 3 weeks ago
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Most people aren't allergic to any noticeable extent, and at least a few who claim to be only displayed the effects after being told that they've been taken MSG. That is the current scientific consensus, and claiming otherwise would need more proof (this has been going on since the 80s, mind). Everyone I know has been using MSG-added products for years with no effects. If you don't want MSG, don't buy processed food, which is you shouldn't eat much of anyway (because of high sodium content).
Psydecar 3 weeks ago
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Psydecar 3 weeks ago
Josjikawa, You may be allergic, and a few others may be allergic (or believe they're allergic), but many others aren't. Should they ban everything that people may be allergic to then? Peanuts? If you personally have a problem with MSG, don't have food with it. Simple as. It's much easier to avoid than people think.
Psydecar 4 weeks ago
@Psydecar msg alergic reactions seem to develop over time, u might not be alergic for it now but it can come anytime, it starts innocent with just a warm head or headache which most people have after eating this
josjikawa 3 weeks ago
just adding, im also diagnosed with a form of autism
josjikawa 1 month ago
i think i might be alergic for this stuff but its so hard to evade it in my country, i often get symptoms of diarhea, dizzyness, hyperventilation, panic attacks, unable to think clear, hart rytm malfunctions (1 hard beat or just too quickly beating) and feeling sick in my stomach :( ive been to to hospital multiple times, had my heart, blood, feces and stomach examined and nothing was found so the only thing that i suspect is this little toxin. hope it gets banned some day
josjikawa 1 month ago
Look at all the msg addicts defended it, so sad
sezuor 1 month ago
The food companies should be made to clean up their act. Now.
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I found 3 links for you people to read:
search wikipedia : Glutamic acid (flavor)
search wikipedia : Umami
search wikipedia : Glutamic_acid
search Google for Glutaphos
search wikipedia for monosodium glutamate (MSG)
I knew this a long time ago yet now I found a link for me to share and for you to question or review. Sorry I can't seem to paste the links. Also, remember that MSG contains sodium.
And once again MSG is not completely the same as Glutamic Acid, Glutamate, or Umami.
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I have a question. Is Glutamate and Glutamic Acid similar? ie. If a person have an allergy to MSG, then would it also have the same effect on users of Glutamic Acid which is known to be a brain supplement combined with other minerals like calcium?
beataens1 1 month ago
While I'm eating my MSG added scrambled eggs, here's what I've got
1) dehydration
2) a headache after you said it will
Why did I add MSG? Because somebody left it to spoil. Also, they sell MSGs in the supermarket abundantly.
KubernetePirata 1 month ago
hey mr. everything is GOOD in moderation, including MSG. no one told you to OD on it
whatsgoingonyall 1 month ago 2
@whatsgoingonyall Nobody told you with clear writing what was in the product you purchased, just because they put alot of shit in their food. This is very interesting, you just suck bro.
Gorbatsjov666 1 month ago
I'm watching this and eating Macdonalds at the same time.
blazflare 1 month ago
most commenters here apparently have never tried MSG outside of junkfood.
Govadina 1 month ago 2
@Govadina i have, whats bad about it? I love MSG i eat it rawly in small quantaties. I don´t have any effects of this.. i did this for years, it´s like i crave for it like 1-2 days a month sometimes, but it doesn´t show any side effects i notice.
Spacefish008 4 weeks ago
For those who doubt all this would you have believed that for 40-odd years people were told smoking was not harmful and was even good for clearing out the lungs? Money talks.
dogwyllie 2 months ago
Europe still has MSG. It's just not allowed in certain food products like milk and juices.
Finland at least, definitely has MSG products (according to a friend who lives there), and German scientists have claimed that MSG in levels present in food is harmless (similar claims have been made by American and Chinese scientists). The only real concerns are with infants. It's definitely less risky than foods with high sugar content (like sodas) or trans-fats (greasy fast food burgers) anyway.
SuperWoodgod 2 months ago 7
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@SuperWoodgod The food industry in Europe is given a period of time to eliminate MSG, this has to be done by 2014... Many fabricants already promote their products don't have any flavour enhancers or MSG anymore...
nacida1966 1 month ago
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Yup. Most countries in Europe have MSG. Same here in Lithuania.
hentajus 2 weeks ago
Medical studies have reported that MSG is linked to brain cell damage in rats. The only reason MSG is still on the market in the USA (and not in Europe for example) it's because it's a massive scam to sell plain over exploited agriculture that lacks taste. If you know you hate MSG because it's poison (it's too hard to educate everyone in here, clearly) watch for the other label they managed to hide under (the FDA told me) as "hydrolized vergetable protein" or hydrolized vegetable - anything
singingmaya 2 months ago
In the 2004 version of his book On Food and Cooking, food enthusiast and author Harold McGee states that "[after many studies], toxicologists have concluded that MSG is a harmless ingredient for most people, even in large amounts."[32]
VxTran 2 months ago 4
Also someone from that oh so "noble" institute had sent a legal threat to a blogger who stated his concerns about the "Peter Kay" situation. No different from typical quacks. I can't believe that you people actually think you all are the rational ones. Being knowledgeable in biochemistry doesn't prevent one from being gullible.
Psydecar 2 months ago
@Psydecar I can't believe you have the minerals to accuse ME of being gullible - and the only reason you know my educational background is because you openly flaunted your own. This is not an ego game, we are all in this together. When will you see that?
staratsx 2 months ago
Burzynski's PhD status is also questionable. And the fact that there are no side effects is utter nonsense. here are plenty of articles about this guy. And for someone who claims that corporations are greedy, you don't seem to have any problem with him charging a $200,000 for his "trials" that have been going on since the 70s with no proven results. Appeals to nature and emotions are powerful things it seems. Please bring up more idots of the Mike Adams ilk though.
Psydecar 2 months ago
@Psydecar There's nothing new here. It's all been said before. I applaud you for regurgitating it. You've only just heard of Burzynski and suddenly you're an expert on him? His doctoral status is not questionable. He studied overseas, which is something the FDA openly advertised as soon as they learned it (along with other mounds of shit they flung in hopes it would stick to people like you). His institution has confirmed his presence and has provided a CV - What's questionable?
staratsx 2 months ago
I like how basically all of you people's responses are "no you're wrong" and "you are believing government lies" and appearing to be more intelligent than you really are. The burden of proof lies with you people. You're all lucky that you're even allowed to spread your crap.
Psydecar 2 months ago
@Psydecar Someone once said "I am only responsible for what I say, not what you interpret." If you can truly summarize what I've said in my posts below with what you have in quotes there, then there is less hope for you than I thought.
staratsx 2 months ago
...Or that every government in the world works together? I don't completely trust the government in certain issues, but if you think that cancer cures are being withheld you're just crazy. It's not like people in the government have families or anything right?
At least now I know what breed of moron I'm dealing with and won't bother with you nutters ever again. Enjoy your "alternative" bunk.
Psydecar 2 months ago
@Psydecar Find a youtube video 'Dr Burzynski movie (full version)' to shed some light on the power structure of the world.. seriously, let ,e know your thoughts on this, maybe we can further discuss things.. cheers friend
crisisofconsciousnes 2 months ago
@crisisofconsciousnes No thanks. I'm not interested in bullshit propaganda.
The only thing I "believe" the government did in terms of 9/11 is take advantage of it as an excuse to go to war in Iraq.
Psydecar 2 months ago
@Psydecar Thank you Psydecar, for displaying to all of us that you really are a closed minded jackass. You won't even let any new information pass through your thick skull. It was good advice he gave you, to watch the Burzynski film, because it is part of your belief system that our government would never have a hand in suppressing cures for cancer. I have been following Burzynski for a while and I think it's great that people have this documentary to watch now. Bullshit propaganda? Get real.
staratsx 2 months ago
@Psydecar And while you're on about 9/11, here's another documentary for you to refuse to watch, "9/11: Explosive Evidence"
staratsx 2 months ago
One last post before I completely ignore this. A lot of people mention excitotoxicity. The problem with the claim, is while it can happen, glutamate doesn't cross the barrier in the brain if you're healthy. It also has to be in extremely high levels. You'd probably have to deliberately take more MSG than normal and have an illness that affects the blood-brain barrier to have any significant negative effect.
Psydecar 2 months ago
@Psydecar I didn't say that alternative practitioners were't interested in getting paid, but most of them (that I've met) care more about helping others and contributing to society than making a name for themselves and making copious amounts of cash. And it sounds like you have a rough understanding of how the blood-brain barrier works. That's great, but there...
staratsx 2 months ago
@Psydecar ...are areas in the brain (and this is well documented) that are not protected by the BBB, such as the hypothalamus. And *it has been documented* in mice that prolonged exposure to free glutamate ion (at the same concentration as in our food additives) gives rise to brain damage as a result of it crossing the BBB and leaching into the brain. Not to mention that the BBB is not fully developed in infants, and some infant formulas are riddled with this stuff.
staratsx 2 months ago
@staratsx He's a closed minded pleb, exactly what our governments want us to be. conformist
crisisofconsciousnes 2 months ago
You people are hilarious. By the way, the website linked looks like absolute nonsense. But continue your selective reading and believing in whatever bullshit helps you sleep at night.
Psydecar 2 months ago 9
@Psydecar Unlike yourself, I read anything and everything presented to me, objectively. It is obvious that you yourself have only read what was necessary for your course curriculum, and have not advanced much further mentally. I decide for myself what is and what is not bullshit based on my past readings and experiences. You should try it so you can actually partake in intelligent discussion instead of saying things like "one last post before I completely ignore this," which basically...
staratsx 2 months ago
@Psydecar ...communicates to me "I have clearly run out of things to say." And for the record....with all of your faith in doctors nowadays...medical school has been taken in the complete wrong direction in recent years. I'm not the only one to have noticed, and even doctors themselves agree with me. I spoke with a very well published and genius M.D. Ph.D just two months ago who made me promise I'd never go to med school if it continues in this direction. Lol.
staratsx 2 months ago
@staratsx And I decide what I read by whether I think the information is passed on by "rational" people, and not quacks.
I don't want to continue the argument because this is Youtube, and any effort will be wasted here. That and you lost any credibility by claiming to have faith in chiropractic, and acupuncture nonsense.
Psydecar 2 months ago
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Psydecar 2 months ago
@Psydecar I don't think it would be wasted here. In some instances, this is where people come to learn about topics which they are unfamiliar with. When I see comments like yours, I feel obliged to provide our peers with a rebuttal to unfounded nonsense or negative remarks. And sure, I have lost all my credibility [to you], by claiming to have faith in genuine doctors (whether they're chiropractors or MD's), but I honestly couldn't give a fuck less about your opinion (as it stands now).
staratsx 2 months ago
@staratsx I'll just leave y'all alone then.
Just to finish though, the "organic" crowd could actually get some respect if it wasn't for their own elite and negative attitudes, commenting in almost every video about a meat or cheese related product with how it's unhealthy or whatever, and how the government is forcing it down our throats. Bonus points for rudeness or saying that we're unintelligent barbarians. Just "woo" nonsense trying to appeal to the gullible.
Psydecar 2 months ago
@Psydecar What the hell are you on about now? I guess our discussion is over judging by the amount of times you jump from one topic to the next. I'm glad this is over. You've contributed nothing. I was hoping to learn at least one thing from you in all of that. Peace & love.
staratsx 2 months ago
@Psydecar that is your perception, not necessarily the truth..you believe that foods are safe because you believe that there are safety nets for this type of thing, ie the government looks after you, like they look after your kids with your nutritious school dinners LOL With the amount of people getting cancer these days it doesn't add up that people would be so protective over there food and not question everything they eat. Oh yea and cancer cures are being suppressed.. Welcome to reality
crisisofconsciousnes 2 months ago
@crisisofconsciousnes Ok. I said I wouldn't post here anymore, but I couldn't let this go. There are higher cancer rates, yes, but people also live longer and there are better means of detection than there used to be which at least partially explain it. I don't put my faith in the government, but I won't put my faith in your woo bullshit either. I suppose Bin Laden is still alive and the moon landings never happened. You really think the government has the capability for such cover ups?
Psydecar 2 months ago
@Psydecar In regards to your 'government has the capacity' point... That is a belief, look at the science behind 911 rather than make decision based on a BELIEF.
crisisofconsciousnes 2 months ago
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@Psydecar So I guess you think anyone who says anthropological global warming is a lie is a quack???
crisisofconsciousnes 2 months ago
@staratsx As for pharma, I'll just quote Ben Goldacre (You should read his book "Bad Science", which criticizes both quacks and and bad pharmaceutical practices): "Repeat after me: pharma being shit does not mean magic beans cure cancer."
I may have not read every single thing about MSG (and I see little reason to), but I've read enough to not buy into the fear mongering. I have little concerns about MSG considering other aspects of my own diet.
Psydecar 2 months ago
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singingmaya 2 months ago
@Psydecar ~ Man, if you like MSG, eat it. Buy it by the jar if you want. There is no need to be snotty.
ergurney 1 month ago
Likewise, if you don't like MSG, you can avoid it instead of spreading nonsense to promote organic/natural food.
Psydecar 4 weeks ago
@Psydecar its inposible to avoid it sice its in everything like spiced meat to soups to chips and go on. theres even fake names used for this like yeast extract. atleast its like that in holland. they might banned it already in other country's. and i hope they do the same here. i dont mean like ban it completely but atleast let me choose to put that shit in myself
josjikawa 3 weeks ago
@Psydecar No its already almost impossible to avoid. Doesn't it mean anything to you that the food companies now try to avoid having to put MSG or "monosodiumglutamate" or E621 in the ingredients list, and instead call it yeast, yeast extract, stock, hydrolysed protein, or even FLAVOUR? Think about that, why do they do that?
blabla9able 2 weeks ago
Btw, I'm not saying that chiropractic doesn't help in things like backaches or something physical, but anything more than that and you're deluding yourself, and I certainly wouldn't be getting medical advice from one.
Psydecar 2 months ago
I suggest reading quackery related websites to see all the bullshit you read and fall for.
Psydecar 2 months ago
@Psydecar oh yea lets read the quackery websites, 911 conspiracy theories are crazy!! , mercury in tooth fillings is safe, sodium fluoride is good for your teeth.... WOW THANK GOD FOR QUACKERY.com
crisisofconsciousnes 2 months ago
No thanks. When it comes to "alternative" bullshit, I'll keep my mind firmly shut. If it keeps you happy, good for you, but I'm not wasting my time with this any longer. I'm not a 100% on doctors, but I'll take them over quacks any day. You're acting like "alternative" morons aren't in it for profit themselves. I'll keep using cooked meat and dairy, as people have been for years. I have no interest in "improved physiology" or living until I'm 120, and would rather enjoy what I eat.
Psydecar 2 months ago
MSG makes me very, very sick. I wish they would quit putting it in all of our foods. I can hardly eat ANYTHING in the grocery store or go out to eat anymore. It sucks.
pieladypeace 2 months ago
If only I'd read the description and seen that this guy received his doctorate from a "chiropractic" institution, instead of wasting my time. Fucking pseudoscience
Psydecar 2 months ago
@Psydecar bias does go both ways, but there is stronger intent within those who profit largely when a certain conclusion is adopted, as compared to the individual researcher. "The FDA are of no concern where you live." Wonderful, that makes my point completely moot doesn't it - because you're not affected by it. I'm not at all surprised you would say something like that.
staratsx 2 months ago
@Psydecar You have a "dim view" of the "natural movement"?? Given your educational background (which you openly display in your posts and on your profile), you should understand the importance of evolution as it relates to our diet and metabolism. It's very good that you have a degree, but you should seriously consider reading some books. It's no coincidence that athletes and average individuals alike who adopt paleo or organic diets/lifestyles witness greatly improved physiology.
staratsx 2 months ago
@Psydecar Don't blindly bash chiropractors, you sound like a complete moron...I know many individuals and fellow athletes alike who swear by chiropractors and even acupuncturists (myself included). There is a method to their "pseudoscience." And stop throwing around words like "hippie health"....you sound fucking juvenile. Please open your mind.
staratsx 2 months ago
@Psydecar : anyone can read scientific studies, regardless of where the degree someone received. Please study yourself. You will see that this man is telling you the truth. Look at peer reviewed studies, and you will see that this man is telling the truth. Medical doctors only have 1-2 semester hours of nutrition, so they do not know. Medical doctors mostly read the inserts in the medicines that they push.
pieladypeace 2 months ago
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It's fitting that two of the related videos are about the the "Coke and Mentos" myth and the "Coke Pork Worms" myth.
Psydecar 2 months ago
@Psydecar it's "fitting" that half of your comments are either "removed" or "flagged as spam"
staratsx 2 months ago
@staratsx If any of my posts were flagged it just goes to show the idiocy of Youtube users. Comments were removed because Youtube doesn't allow editing.
The FDA are of no concern where I live, but bias goes both ways. Doesn't help that I have a dim view of the "natural" movement (another billion dollar industry with the main difference being that they're even more free to spout out whatever bullcrap they want), that a lot of anti-MSG people (who also usually claim to suffer from CRS) support.
Psydecar 2 months ago
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Psydecar 2 months ago
Funny how there's not a single source that can be described as "reliable" that that supports any of the "MSG is bad" nonsense. It's mostly "new age" hippie health vegetarian run sites. Basically people see something with a chemical name and assume it's unsafe even though it occurs naturally. Soon people will complain about the evils of sodium chloride.
Psydecar 2 months ago
@Psydecar It might have something to do with the fact that most of the institutions who would deem MSG claims as "reliable" are not interested in having it removed from the shelves. What exactly would you consider a "single reliable source?" How about peer-reviewed medical journals, and research conducted by neuroscientists? It's out there, you should read them instead of spouting nonsense. Goto the library. and good job, you know highschool chemistry- sodium chloride is table salt very good
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Psydecar 2 months ago
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@staratsx @staratsx I could find research journals describing almost anything as bad, and studies supporting my claim. My point is even if MSG is harmful in excess, so are many other things that nobody fears. And I'm soon going to be doing my masters in genetic research, by the way, and have done two university classes each in organic chem. and biochemistry, and a class in food biology, so nice try with the attack. I specifically used sodium chloride for a reason.
Psydecar 2 months ago
@staratsx "It might have something to do with the fact that most of the institutions who would deem MSG claims as "reliable" are not interested in having it removed from the shelves." - Sounds like conspiracy nonsense to me. Yes, the government and large science institutions want people to die. That benefits them so much. That's why we're never warned about the risks related to red meats, soft drinks, high cholesterol foods, processed meats, smoking, etc.
Psydecar 2 months ago
@staratsx I think you need to read some books my friend before you jump to defend government institutions, and most importantly your ego. I'm glad you've taken university introductory food science courses, two semesters of organic, etc, that's great - I went to a major university too. This isn't a popularity contest, but I feel compelled to inform you that I have a B.S. in biochemistry. and it wasn't an "attack" dude, I'm just trying to get you to reevaluate what you're saying.
staratsx 2 months ago
@staratsx ....and it is not my view that "large science institutions want people to die," I don't know where you got that from. In fact I'm not even sure what you mean by "large science institutions" And yes you can find journal articles that conflict eachother, it's science....that's not uncommon. Not to mention bias - and if you don't think corruption has begun to leech into the field science then I challenge you to read more about the FDA - I think you will be shocked at what you'll find.
staratsx 2 months ago
shit fuck. thats in my fav food
kendallwarlow 2 months ago
I've never heard such bullshit, where is the clinical studies supporting your claims 'doctor'. Here is mine,
In 1988, the World Health Organization and the United Nations reviewed all the evidence and concluded that MSG ''did not represent a hazard to health''
iis2Skool 2 months ago
@iis2Skool Thank you. Even if excess MSG did pose a threat, so do many other things.
Psydecar 2 months ago
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kendallwarlow 2 months ago
@iis2Skool - these organizations want us to take this food, over population is their concern.
TheSamjulian 2 months ago
@iis2Skool Ok, but look at how many official bodies / studies support that global warming is being caused by man... Unrelated? Nope, it proves that money and greed have totally corrupted the system. Hence what should we do? Eat close to nature is my answer. Why anyone would want to eat something that manipulates your brain into thinking it tastes better than it does is beyond me.. And the fact that it kills brain cells
crisisofconsciousnes 2 months ago
So why does this opinion differ from thousands of medical and clinical tests and placebo trials that have been conducted for decades? Virtually everything has MSG added, and there are NO official reports clarifying its danger. There are also no cases to my knowledge where any ailment has been "specifically" leveled at MSG as being the cause. No FDA or other department has banned MSG, so again I ask - where is the proof of this opinion?
trulykiwi 2 months ago
@trulykiwi Well, the sad thing is my friend, the FDA is a corrupt lobby-paid organization that doesn't care shit about your health or the health of anyone in this country, and if you're so naive to believe them or trust in them, well, then you're headed for a big big disappointment.
Jabberwock156 2 months ago
@Jabberwock156 Okay I have enough of this now..... Where is the PROOF of what you say? How the hell do you KNOW CATEGORICALLY that the FDA is a CORRUPT organisation?? I challenge you to provide me with something CONCRETE to substantiate your claims!! Now I will wait and see what transpires.... I don't want to hear what "someone else" has said about it, "videos" about it, or "books" about it - these are all corrupt in their own right. SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE that would convict in court!
trulykiwi 2 months ago
@trulykiwi So, let me get this straight...according to your argument, if I cannot personally prove corruption exists, then it doesn't exist? So, do you believe EVERYONE in the world is good and NO ONE is corrupt? because that's what you're implying. You want evidence? Sure, check out "The World According to Monsanto". There's all the evidence you need.
Jabberwock156 2 months ago
@Jabberwock156 Typically you have "expanded" my comment to cover ALL corruption! What I stated was with regard to YOUR CERTAINTY that the FDA is a corrupt body! I am not interested in anything else. You stated "the FDA is a corrupt lobby-paid organization" meaning you KNOW FOR SURE that this is the case. If you are just offering your opinion based on hearsay, you would not have used the word "is". Of course people are corrupt, it is everywhere, including in stories of conspiracy.
trulykiwi 2 months ago
@trulykiwi
the FDA is corrupt cuz the government is corrupt. It's the government that subsidizes those companies that make shit food or produce shit products like HFCS. The American FDA labels MSG as SAVE while the European Union labels it as a food additive and should only be used in small quantities. I believe the Europeans over the Americans when it comes to food and this is coming from an American. But you're free to buy crap food, just as ur free to kill urself, it's about freedom.
jacquelineveronique 2 months ago
@jacquelineveronique Yeah well again, we only have your word to go that the government is corrupt! Prove it! And... I am in New Zealand & Australia (non American) and our governments say the following:... Food Standards Australia New Zealand[31] (FSANZ) cites "overwhelming evidence from a large number of scientific studies" to explicitly deny any link between MSG and "serious adverse reactions" or "long-lasting effects", declaring MSG "safe for the general population" - I guess that means nothin
trulykiwi 2 months ago
@trulykiwi
you have your head to deep up the asses of companies that make MSG, big companies that are lying. Google for " Aspartame has been Renamed and is Now Being Marketed as a Natural Sweetener " and see what a liars they are selling their lab created substances as "natural substances " I don't care of NZ has FDA, I don't care about that country at all that is ticked away in a non useful part of the world. Nobody lives there, only some deported criminals from Europe.
jacquelineveronique 2 months ago
@jacquelineveronique Again your research is pathetic! The criminals you speak of that were deported from Europe, went to Australia, not New Zealand - Google it! Aspartame is NOT MSG, it is an artificial sweetener, originally called Nutrisweet, and the fact that it is harmful is something I agree with you about. If memory serves me correctly it was manufactured by a company called Monsanto, and it is a company born in your country - AMERICA!
trulykiwi 2 months ago
@trulykiwi
the research was already done by the European Union thus I don't need to listen to your biased lies. NZ or AUS, same part of the world same shit in the way of oppressing the native inhabitants. MSG or Aspartame are made by corrupt companies, no difference here. Monsanto is a corrupt company that controls 50 % of the food chain in the US. This is why the FDA says all they make is good while sensible people, like me, don't by shit food with Monsanto shit in it.
jacquelineveronique 2 months ago
@jacquelineveronique yeah I'm done with you. People like you spout off at the mouth thinking you know more than you do, all for some insane personal justification that you are worthy of an adult conversation consisting of facts rather than hearsay. You're American living in someone else's country, quoting someone else's theory. Oppression? You should check out your own countries history of oppression! The only country in the world that infiltrates all others - except NZ! We kicked your ass out!
trulykiwi 2 months ago
@trulykiwi
we used to have oppression and we have made mistakes but we have learned from it. Hence, we have a black president while in Australia and NZ the aborigines and Maoris are still treated as second class citizens.
jacquelineveronique 2 months ago
@jacquelineveronique You still have oppression! Who are you trying to kid? Look at some of the footage that comes through about black brutality and bashings. Look at how many countries your country has infiltrated and assumed control over!! Look at the middle east and the mess you made over there!! As for coloured people in politics, we (in NZ) have had Maori representation in parliament for decades. We even have a Maori party! Look up Winston Peters. We have also had women prime ministers!
trulykiwi 2 months ago
@trulykiwi
we have no oppression in America and we liberated the Iraqis from their brutal dictator although I didn't support the war simply because each country must decide its own destination. There might be some maori in parliament but the law in NZ is that violence against maoris is okay while in America it's not
jacquelineveronique 2 months ago
@jacquelineveronique You call it liberation, the rest of the world calls it senseless occupation. That "dictator" has been dead for years now, and still the soldiers are there. What's more they are fighting a losing battle. There is ONE law here, and maoris break it 7:1 over white people. However if I went down the street and bashed a maori, I would either be given a hiding, or arrested. There is no difference IN LAWS!
trulykiwi 2 months ago
@trulykiwi
we should we want to be in NZ ? All I know about NZ is that you have kiwis, but whose also have added MSG to the kiwi fruit as of today. I prefer to eat a organic orange from Spain
jacquelineveronique 2 months ago
@jacquelineveronique MSG in fruit?? Where did this bullshit come from? We have some of the best fruit in the world here!
trulykiwi 2 months ago
@trulykiwi this shit's funny..thanks for the laugh...
jojobambam1 1 month ago
@jojobambam1 you are welcome - merry xmas :-)
trulykiwi 1 month ago
@trulykiwi
aspartame is made by Ajinomoto, a Japanese company. Perhaps they contain radioactive substances as well after the tsunami
jacquelineveronique 2 months ago
@jacquelineveronique If you check back in time I think you will find Monsanto had something to do with the "original" development of the product.
trulykiwi 2 months ago
@trulykiwi
Food Standards Australia New Zealand[31] (FSANZ) cites "overwhelming evidence from a large number of scientific studies" to explicitly deny any link between MSG and "serious adverse reactions" or "long-lasting effects", declaring MSG "safe for the general population".
But in EU they are more reserved about calling it safe, it seems EU cares about the people and Australia and NZ don't care about the safety about people, no wonder when they are descendants from criminals
jacquelineveronique 2 months ago
@trulykiwi WORLD WAR 3 ON MSG!!WOOHOOO..LMFAO...THANKS FOR THE LAUGH AGAIN.
jojobambam1 1 month ago
@jojobambam1 Haha totally - "chemical" weapons of MASS destruction!!
trulykiwi 1 month ago
@jacquelineveronique and here is another reference to thE "SENSIBLE SAFETY" OF msg - In the 2004 version of his book On Food and Cooking, food enthusiast and author Harold McGee states that "[after many studies], toxicologists have concluded that MSG is a harmless ingredient for most people, even in large amounts. - I guess this "Harold McGee" doesn't know what he is talking about! OH SHIT, maybe he is one of these pathetic alleged ILLUMINATI we hear about!
trulykiwi 2 months ago
@trulykiwi
But the European Union, based on findings by European scientists, say you should use it only in small quantities, but if you want to believe your moronic NZ FDA go ahead. For all I care you take liquid acid. I won't mind
jacquelineveronique 2 months ago
@jacquelineveronique You call me Moronic, (or my country) and yet you are the one who clearly has done NO research on this issue. ALL countries have stated the same thing about the use of MSG, idiot! But that is no different to saying "drink only moderate amounts of Coke" or "Only eat small amounts of sugar" - and one more thing you twat, NZ does not have an FDA. I think you spend too much time watching Ellen and Oprah. I don't know what you graduated in, but it wasn't market research!
trulykiwi 2 months ago
@trulykiwi
NZ has 4 million people or so and EU about 500 million and I bet there are more sensible scientist among 500 million people than among 4 million people. Secondly, how much money does MSG companies donate to you for spreading dangerous substances. It would like me getting paid by Mexican drug cartels and telling the public heroin is not harmful or if I get paid by Philip Morris telling others smoking is not harmful.
jacquelineveronique 2 months ago
@jacquelineveronique This statement sums up your intelligence! MSG is NOT a chemical, it is a natural substance and is in almost all foods. Heroin is a product created by man to kill other people and we don't have a heroin problem in this country. Do you eat potato chips, McDonalds, KFC, Soup, etc etc?? All of these things have MSG added to them - I bet you have not stopped eating them!
trulykiwi 2 months ago
@trulykiwi
cocaine is a natural substance, so are some mushrooms that can kill you. Not all that is natural is good. MSG is fabricated in labs by pharmaceutical companies and passed as 'natural 'and supported by people like you for, perhaps, political reasons
jacquelineveronique 2 months ago
@jacquelineveronique Simply - you are wrong! In fact there are two types of MSG, and most is produced in Asia!
trulykiwi 2 months ago
MSG is used in Chinese Food, BUT is added to many other foods under 20+ different names, some not even listed on the label. This EXCITOTOXIN can cause: headaches, migraines, stomach upset, nausea, neurological disorders (Parkinson's, MS, ALS, Alzheimer's), behavioral disorders (in children & teens), vomiting, diarrhea, irritable bowel syndrome, asthma attacks, shortness of breath, anxiety or panic attacks, heart palpitations, partial paralysis, balance difficulties, mental confusion, etc.
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beataens1 2 months ago
I'm still skeptical about the whole harmful effects of MSG. My family is Chinese and my grandpa always use MSG in the meals that he cooks and we had no problem with it. 15 Aunts and Uncles, 4 Grandparents, 19 Cousins, all uses MSG in their food and I have never been to a funeral, I'm 18. My grandpa is turning 91 this month and he's been using MSG since he was 15, he is healthy and strong, he can still bench press over 150 pounds... So I find this hard to believe....
TommieDuhWeirdo 2 months ago
big man ting.
MILLSPRO123 3 months ago
I'm kinda in a shock because of the dream... I think I'm not going to shut up quietly this time and take it. I'm doing a blog or something to combat this nightmare! Enough with NWO poisoning!, GMO foods, fluoride, additives, chemicals... this is war... and they have a rebellion.
pomaslu 3 months ago
@pomaslu I'm making a powerpoint about all the poisoning aswell but don't say "nwo" because it does not exist, word your sentences correctly,
DaTruthsHere 3 months ago
Listen to this!!!
it's 5 AM here, this is the third time i woke up this night after waking up with a strong sensation of Heartburn. This after eating baked cakes of chokolate and poppy. I had a dream before waking the third time and in it a man told me "sodium glutamate and bicarbonate”. I don't understand in this so I searched for this and found it's a most widespread artificially produced food additive.
pomaslu 3 months ago
@pomaslu in other words take baking soda(sodium bicarbonate)but get it from the health food store,but arm an hammer will work temporarely.one spoon full in about 8oz water will beat heart burn or acid every time.it will make you burp it out.I have to take it sometimes too.If you got to sleep with acid in you chest an throat it will make you choke.The acid will come up an hit your throat an make you gasp for air until you catch your breath,an it wont go away unless to do something .good luck
tomhikooo 2 months ago
@tomhikooo I'm curious, how is health food store sodium bicarbonate better than Arm and Hammer? Surely they're both the same compound with comparable levels of purity (they're both food grade). One's just three times the price of the other.
SoundOfScilence 2 months ago
Studies have been done giving people thousands or milligrams per day (over 100 grams) with no problems whatsoever. Our bodies naturally produce around 40,000 milligrams Glutimate per day.
Believe it or not MSG began as a broth made from seaweed because that broth then contained lots of MSGs.
The main issue here is with regards to nutrition, so if you consume a large amount of something whether MSG or whatever and are not getting the other nutrients then you may have problems (allergies etc.).
ChildOL 3 months ago
couple weeks ago i ate Chinese i got sick for more then week and couldn't eat for 5 days, i felt like i was going to die i had shortness of breath and palpitations when i was sleeping it sucked big time, couple days ago i ate Chinese food again but not much and the same thing happened only i didn't eat that much and im just getting over being sick.
Negr0id 3 months ago
@Negr0id The question you and others should ask yourselves is why doesn't the millions of Chinese and Japanese who eats tons of MSG have problems with it?
ChildOL 3 months ago 3
im eating ramen atm LOLOL
VestaPirates 3 months ago
I came here because I looked in the ingredients of these crisps I was eating, Why does everyone over-react, it's not going to kill you, or make you go INSANE, just relax and eat the foods you enjoy :) Don't let some bald man on the internet tell you what not to enjoy!
PureCX 3 months ago
@PureCX How much of it will you eat?
WHOWHAT11 3 months ago
@WHOWHAT11
Right, I can go for one of two types of food snack, one with and without MSG, wither way I'm having a snack, I will choose the tastier one with MSG because obviously it makes me feel good eating it, regardless I'll only have one because I'm able to restrain how much junk food I eat, ANYTHING is bad in massive concentrations, it's about enjoying what you want in moderation :) but the media has blown all this out of proportion, this man says "this bad" with no scientific backup.
PureCX 3 months ago
Lol, anyone who SERIOUSLY believes this is going to be one of those people who are scared of everything everyone tells them, aspartame and MSG are completely harmless, we all love eating these foods and they are pleasurable and that is a great thing, this man has presented NO evidence, he has simply told you a load of crap and eveyone is soaking it up. And why are food companies evil? It's just like putting a coat of paint over your product to make it look better.
PureCX 3 months ago
ppl dont want to be well, actually they refuse to be healthy
elena55o 3 months ago
Explains why I like Doritos so much. Also explains why I have anger management problems. The food industry should be ashamed of themselves.
Tommyidol420 4 months ago
Part I of 3. Allowing just 1 name for this would give us a fighting chance to avoid! But no! Always contains Glutamate: Glutamic acid, Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) Yeast extract, Anything “hydrolyzed”Any “hydrolyzed protein” Calcium caseinate Sodium caseinate Yeast food Yeast nutrient Autolyzed yeast Gelatin Textured protein Soy protein, soy protein concentrate Soy protein isolate Whey protein, whey protein concentrate Whey protein isolate Most anything claiming to be “protein” Vetsin Ajinomoto
OmegaSeekerr 4 months ago
Part 2 Often contain or produce processed free glutamic acid which acts like Glutamate: Carrageenan, Bouillon. broth Stock “flavors” or “flavoring” Maltodextrin Citric acid, Citrate Anything “ultra-pasteurized” Barley malt Pectin Protease Anything “enzyme modified” Anything containing “enzymes” Malt extract Soy sauce Soy sauce extract Anything “protein fortified” Anything “fermented” Even “Seasonings” may or may not be! (Un-fooled around with glutamic acid in whole foods causes no problems.)
OmegaSeekerr 4 months ago
Part 3 of 3. Think MSG not YOUR problem? Consider if someone having an uncontrollable rage reaction from a too well hidden source attacks YOU or YOUR loved one?! VERY sensitive People will even react to these, some of which admittedly actually have legit reasons to be in foods. Corn starch Corn syrup Modified food starch Lipolyzed butter fat Dextrose Rice syrup Brown rice syrup Milk powder Reduced fat milk (skim; most things low fat or no fat) Anything Enriched Anything Vitamin “enriched”
OmegaSeekerr 4 months ago
Note there is such a being as a Troll. Not the fantasy kind. Name for someone hired by an industry to belittle anyone who warns about its product on Youtube & other places. If you notice the same name popping up over & over & over again belittling any good point anyone makes against a dangerous product, suspect that person is one. Industry also hires cleaners to immediately fix Wikipedia if more accurate information about a dangerous product is put in an article. Don't go there for health info!
OmegaSeekerr 4 months ago
This is what is fueling the Autism epidemic. we really don't have an Autism epidemic. We have an epidemic of sick Autists. I eat it I have a melt down. It also causes brain damage in us because our brains have such high levels already. FDA lets it hide in foods under 40 names! Go to truthinlabeling to learn what these are. In every live virus vaccine under name hydrolyzed protein used there as preservative. Big Pharma sells us glutamate blockers which help but yet puts same chemical in shots!
OmegaSeekerr 4 months ago
@OmegaSeekerr You really need to take a fucking science class rather than preaching your uneducated, irrational conspiracy theories.
Supermassively 4 months ago
@Supermassively Know this stuff causes rage reactions in ME, & FDA allows it to hide in foods, IVs & every live virus vaccine under 40 names! Big Pharma makes big bucks selling us Glutamate blockers to stop the rage reactions & brain damage excess Glutamate causes. At the same time claim injecting it into us will not harm us! Know an Autist who went in hospital for a non-Autism related condition, had an IV inserted & had a rage reaction due to the "hydrolyzed protein" in IV. Put in psych ward!
OmegaSeekerr 4 months ago
@Supermassively Don't post for 2 days. Then I post, BAM within moments here comes Supermassively! Pro-vaccine Troll even used same defense of dangerouus product he used. “It damaged me so ANYTHING I SAY against it must be totally wrong.” (Can we say “REALLY weird circular logic?!”) TOO much time to be defending MSG. Follows troll-script to letter: “ridicule & cast doubt on established research & when people point out personal experiences confirming research, ridicule personal traits of posters!
OmegaSeekerr 4 months ago
@OmegaSeekerr LOL! Oh God, you're one of those anti-vaccine lunatics too? You must be extremely low-functioning on the spectrum.
Supermassively 4 months ago
@Supermassively Folks, google terms, Autism+ sick monkeys. Learn what has been discovered about how vaccine-overload is causing my kind's severe, very painful gut agony + our social difficulties. Without this damage my genetic type would be here anyway but doing many wonderful things for society again, As Tesla in his younger days vs Tesla in his older days when he was damaged as many of us are now before school! Read facts, not Supermassively's (highly likely) industry paid for ridicule.
OmegaSeekerr 4 months ago
@OmegaSeekerr More conspiracy theorist bullshit. You really destroy your argument when you claim blatant falsehoods like accusing someone of working for some industry that they've never been associated with, simply because they present facts and logic to counter your uneducated horse shit.
Supermassively 4 months ago
What 69 idiots would dislike this?
PrettyBoyFalco 4 months ago
PUTTING MSG IN DIRT WOULD NOT MAKE THE DIRT TASTE 'GOOD'
THIS MAN DOES NOT KNOW HOW THESE THINGS WORK
doggiebiscuit 4 months ago
@f4rtg34ji Couldn't have said it better. The level of ignorance from the mindless crowd that actually accepts this "MSG is an evil toxin" bullshit, just blows my mind.
Supermassively 4 months ago
@MichaelVelten Hahaha, it's a great laugh seeing someone sharing his delusional "fluoride additives" conspiracy theories and then telling someone else to do their research. Nothing in your comment is based on fact. Nothing.
Supermassively 4 months ago
Truth? LOL! I wouldn't trust the opinion of what "truth" means" from someone who believe in "alternative medicine" bullshit.
Supermassively 4 months ago
The Three Phases Of Truth:
1) RIDICULE
2) VIOLENT OPPOSITION
3) THE TRUTH BECOMES SELF EVIDENT
YOU CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING; UNTIL YOU CHANGE WHAT IS BETWEEN YOUR EARS!!
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EzbilliardsSoCal 4 months ago
@EzbilliardsSoCal You're an idiot.
Supermassively 4 months ago
@Supermassively exactly Ridicule then Violent Opposition. You kind of proved my point by the name calling. Don't be mad though a lot of "Sheeple" like you are just fat and happy.
EzbilliardsSoCal 4 months ago
@EzbilliardsSoCal Calling people "sheeple" kills your credibility almost as much as does using words like "toxins" and "negative energies". Just makes you sound like some whackjob conspiracy theorist who lives in mom's basement smoking weed all day.
Supermassively 4 months ago
Not all people are sheep. But all the ones that keep feeding themselves and their kids all this crap without even reading what they are eating or caring. Yeah they are sheep!! I was once almost 400lbs. Now I am 250lbs. My mom died from eating all the wrong foods at 60 years old. I also was told that my son needed to be put on meds. Well funny thing happened there, I switched our diet from processed foods to organic and like magic my son has no more problems!! So when I speak its from experience
EzbilliardsSoCal 4 months ago