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  • ya napıyon amk neyin kafasını yaşıyosun sen

  • ts ts ts..thats a joke! the defender moves just a bit dynamicly but the opponent is a stone! hahahaha!

  • this looks good but why does he never do moves in full, he always go slow. i know he is teaching a move but he needs to show it works in real time.

  • @SuperHefner he is showing the move love for 2 reasons. 1 is becouse the japanses learn using there eyes and dont ask questions about step 1 to step 2. second hes moving in a way where his uke does not get hurt but understands the pain with the move. in my dojo some one decided to do a move really bfast and broke his ukes foot in the procces becouse the uke didnt have enough time to roll out of the tecnique.

  • Ninja would have rarely needed to fight at all, if they did, they wouldnt waste time fighting hand to hand as they would just stab or shoot you and run away

  • but the true is that togakure is oldest one. as for as togakure ryu, its real poor as for as real combat techniques. it was real ninjutsu schools, so there are a lot of other skills, which are important for survivel, spying and do other kind of dirty job for money. real successful action was just when ninja needn't fight!!! he can use his knowledge of samurai's fighting methods at the same time when no outsider know methods of ninjas. it was the real power of ninpo...

  • at the start hacumi supported ninja promo like some kind of popularization. later he stopped it and started with bujinkan, like 9schools style, with 6 traditional bugei, not shinobi. and now call it (bujinkan) ninjutsu just morons and renegades like as hayes etc.

  • bujinkan isn't style in traditional way. there are 9 schools which are united in person of hacumi (master of other schools, but not grandmaster). to call it ninjitsu is bullshit. one of the first non-japan students was s. hayes. and he started this f-ckin promotion with ninjas in black etc. honestly, there are some strong ryus in bujinkan, real meat, but some are just staff like sauce. there's no space to talk about schools and history, but everybody can studied, like i did

  • I bet Bruce Lee would have surely beaten Hatsumi ( when he was young) if they had fought

  • As a matter of fact if you look into Soke Masaaki Hatsumi he has trained CIA, FBI, SAS, Royal Marines, National Police Department of Spain.

    Now these are US / UK and european forces, not some obscure country.

    Why don't u guys try it out and see?... its one thing to criticize the players and another to actually play the game and be good at it.

  • Man why is everybody against ninjitsu? Of course nobody can survive a or a barrage of bullets. Sure, somebody point a gun at your general direction, you go find cover.

    But martial arts do have a benefit, at close combat. As good guns are if your assailant is 3 ft away, he will kill you with something as simple as a knife. Guns are absolutely fantastic as ranged weapons, but close up, not as good.

    All special forces have martial arts training, coz at least they know guns aren't everything.

  • some people think they can use martial arts to outsmart me, *sniffle* *sniffle*, maybe, maybe... I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet..

  • @student908065 a bullet can be used by anyone..martial arts by few..thats the difference...without the gun lets put your big fat talking to the test

  • @AndreasSerifos I'm sorry I didn't realize we were living in the stone ages, get with the times.. How about you try to use your martial art to dodge my barrage of bullets... or better yet, let see you block my C2 Taser.. Yeah good luck with that.. Martial arts is amazing for exercise and discipline but in the real world don't expect to win many fights with it.. In fact don't expect to win any fights against a well armed citizen.

  • @student908065 since you wont probably fight a real ninja and see for yourself that you wont even draw your gun, i ll aggree with you.. you would be able to kill smn with the gun..but i said without..you wont be carying i gun every single minute of your life..in the very end the only thing you have is your body..and pls leave the lecture with the guns..i m used to them and i know what i m talking about since i have seen warfare as greek army special forces..

  • @student908065 just so you know, everyone doesn´t line in the madnes caled USA, i`m a swede and here in europ theres strik rules abut gun use and its much more comone whithe knifes and fists than gunes, so this could be handy upp here, but it still wont protect us from economic krises :), I se your point but everythings relative!

  • :O

    

  • @HelenSkyLark7 First of all NO ONE has ever or will get a mail order BlackBelt. It takes 3 years at best of very hard work and the test is in person. 2nd we do teach military. 3rd the skills learned in our training serve people in many contexts of their lives. If the training is not for you.... then do something else.

  • @ninjutsucom: Well no I wasn't considering doing this training. There are some things that people don't learn off of CDs and TV sets that's why it looks so silly. Professional baseball players don't learn from CD's why would any other athlete?

  • So, I think that MMA is very much a contest of will, and stamina and technique.

    It's like modern day Gladiatorial exhibition. High level Ninjutsu is much more

    sublime I believe. It's much more than just fighting in a ring. It's alot more

    intuitive and natural. When real danger materializes, you don't think about it,

    you just let it happen. And "old" guys like Dr. Hatsumi can overcome, because

    they have developed true inner power, that borders on the supernatural.

  • Hey, @1:15 and 1:21, the guy with the go-tee, that's Tim Bathurst from Australia.

    I was in one of his seminars when I trained in the Bujinkan.

  • karate, choy lee fut, wing chun, jujutsu and even judo have kata.....soooooo, ¿all that arts are useless for practice techniques in an ideal situation? =S

    wtf man, seriously

  • @KhedK Then how do you explain shadow boxing. How do explain practicing a technique. Kata is important. Ive used skills that I have learned in Kata against real fighters and it works. So you lose that argument. Im a Karate guy by the way.

  • ninjutsu is the best martial art. Designed for real life danger. MMA is designed for stage fighting but cant apply on real life.

  • I cant stand the booj argument regarding never training against resisting oponents or sparring cause their tecniques are too "deadly". So if someone pushes or throws a punch at them they'll kill them? They cant show any restraint?

    Silly ninjers excuses scared of getting hit.

  • @liljeffy28 I see a lot of people write about the "Booj Argument" and always wonder where they got that. There are different stages to learning something. In Japan it can be called SHU-HA-RI, sort of a crawl, walk then run breakdown. If you saw training at any one of these levels and assumed that was it then you are mistaken. I like it when they resist :)

  • @hilariofalcon Basically based on all the videos out there. This one is of the grandmaster Hatsumi which I assume is the highest level training you can get in the booj. Zero resistance here, lots of lunge punching, holding out your arm and just standing there while he performs of series of intricate moves. I spent a year training and it wasn't alive enough for me (tho was coming from a Muay Thai background, so I guess I enoyed more physically demanding training).

  • Acho que se deve reppeitar todas as artes orientais ou ocidentais, sou praticante de artes marciais ligadas aos samurais, e mesmo assim respeito o ninjutsu, lembrando que o karate, judô, jiujitsu entre outros são artes samurais... Com certeza as boas artes são feitas de bons praticantes que respeitam as outras artes, pois que ganha algo não é a modalidade e sim o espirito esportivo.

  • @ everyone - Imagine we have 2 tools and 1 users/artist of the tools. The tools are for carving. Imagine we have both users/artists carve some wood. Which carving is better? The one by the better artist. Do you not think that martial arts are the same? They all boil down to the mind and body of the exponent, not the style in itself. If an exponent of MMA beats a Bujinkan practitioner, it's because that person is a better fighter, not because MMA is better. Wake up people.

  • Why argue so much? Do which ever martial art(s) you like and enjoy and learn from. If you dont like the videos simply quit watching them. Its not hard, isn't learning humility something every discipline has in common? and to all the Bujinkan and Ninjutsu guys im talking to you too. What ever happened to mutual respect? Learn from each other instead of having all these pissing contests.

  • I have seen the effectiveness of Ninjutsu first hand... But I always wonder why some people think that martial arts (and certainly ninpo) is only about fighting and "beating up" your opponent... That's actually the easy part ;).

  • @BristanKeller1

    What? That old man? I would be myself able to beat him up 'cause I'm much younger than him

  • @britcockney You clearly don't know as much about martial arts as u think, in a real fight those old guys r smart and experienced and all that youth means little to someone that can read u like a book and smack u out without u even knowing what hit u

  • Ive also trained with Masaaki Hatsumi ,Im a member of Togakure Ryu Ninjustsu NZ.3rd Dan Sensei . For those who choose to be so simple minded to think this man wouldn't deal any of you fukers who doubt his skills a good plain beating, if you know anything of any art ,it has nothing to do with age or size or your bulky mussels ,only skill and experience . Ive seen him in private classes up against a dozen of Japans highest ranked ninjutsu pupils, and not one ever had a thing on him.

  • For all the UFC nuts that claim Ninjutsu is just show. Remember that Ninjutsu was ban from competitive martial arts for a very good reason. Ninjutsu has graced the UFC and the result was brutal to say the very least.

  • @niloneske Dude! Please tell me they have a video of this somewhere, lol.

  • @gamertildeath00 Yeah there is, I'm quite sure it is UFC 3.

  • @britcockney Hahaha and what makes you think that these "ninjutsu masters", if they did exist, are not mixed martial artists? Be careful on what you judge by what you don't see. Even a strong fighter will have a challenge with a blade, metal chain, or a gun from a skilled expert. The world is different than the staged fight mat.

  • @ninjutsucom I believe that there is too much antagonism between Bujinkan and MMA. It should be remembered that jujutsu forms an aspect of MMA, and that jujutsu is one of the teachings of Bujinkan. The basic strikes of MMA is the jab, cross, uppercut, hook, roundhouse elbow, uppercut elbow, front kick, roundhouse, and knee. Doesn't Taijitsu (the striking aspect of Bujinkan) have these same techniques? Bujinkan students can easily use MMA as a way to test many of their techniques.

  • @widugeist Of course we train with and against all of these attacks. It would be silly or immature to think otherwise. Not all MMA practitioners agree or use the same methods. In the ring or in the real world a fighter must be able to adapt in the moment to the surroundings and to his opponent. To win ultimately one must do what is useful in the moment.

  • @widugeist MMA is simply shit

  • @FabrizioBiondini

    If you pay close attention to what I am writing, you will find that at no point was I impolite and that I maintained the code of chivalry, honour, and respect in this communication. Saying "X is shit" is not an acceptable way to speak to someone or behave. Would you speak in this manner to someone face to face? It is very cowardly to speak to someone in this manner on the internet, particularly if we consider that your safety is ensured due to the distance that is between us.

  • @widugeist Well, i'm sorry dude, you're right, but MMA is ineffective in the real life, simply...

  • @FabrizioBiondini

    Thank you for the apology, it mighty big of you to do that. You are entitled to your opinion, however I do disagree with you. I know why you think this though, and it is true that there are many tactics that could get you into trouble, particularly against multiple opponents (for example, taking someone down to the ground). Of course, this isn't all I do, I have a background in karate and gung fu too, and would not mind taking budo taijutsu. Warm Regards, Michael.

  • @widugeist Yeah. It's different a combat on the ring and the real world, don't you think?

  • @FabrizioBiondini

    I wouldn't underestimate the usefulness of ring fighting on the street. I invite you to type "Turkish Badass Fights Off Multiple Attackers" where he only uses Boxing (which forms an aspect of MMA), and actually fights off many people at once.

  • @widugeist boxing is an art,stolen & used pourly in a sport thats producer makes all the money.AND MORE THEN 70% OF THE TIME THE FIGHT IS ON THE GROUND,USELESS IN THE STREET.mma is a good sport,but it's number one thing is making money.all this crap about who's art or sport is better is a waste of time.in 10 yrs time hatsumi will still be teaching & there will be a whole new bunch of fighters trying to prove themselves & MAKE MONEY...ITS A BUSINESS ...NOT A LIFESTYLE

  • @FabrizioBiondini

    I would also like to remind you that Hatsumi himself competed in Judo, Karate, and Boxing when he was younger. He is no stranger to full contact competition.

  • @ninjutsucom MMA is a sport, let me see you tap out when i'm stopping on your head with sokugyaku ken, or when a knifes to your throat!!

  • @ninjutsucom just a heads up, martial arts doesn't mean mat, if not the opposite. The true martial arts were war tactics, meant to kill or disable, "mats" are used for sport version of such, with restrictions. Don't be so quick to judge if you are not literate in the subject.

  • @britcockney These guys train for something different. Same reason why you can't use combatives in the ring. No eye-gouging, groin hitting, small joint manipulation. Most notably in this vid, NO WEAPONS. Sure, most weapons might be uncommon today to encounter in a fight, like katanas. But staff? Extremely practical. Ninjutsu and other martial arts that wouldnt work in the cage, like Wing Chun, are being used by special forces across the globe. Trust me, these techniques are effective. Respect.

  • @CommanderYuan

    But what do you think about those people that never trained in any martial art but have experience in street fights either 1 vs 1 duels or gang vs gang?

  • @britcockney It's a mixed bag. People from that kind of background can either be pretty good or really bad. If they have had NO kind of formal training from someone who used a refined art, their reflexes and movements can still be fast. But against a trained fighter, more times than not they're likely to get wiped. However, I'll admit they do have good fight mentality. But for a better reference, look at Kimbo Slice in UFC. He got wiped, but he's still a tough guy.

  • @britcockney im sure foreman or mike tyson would knock them out with a right hand but that is not the case is the philosofy of the art

  • @britcockney mate i do the bujikan and mma u shouldnt say there are none left if u read a bit more into this u wouldnt say that they dont exist soke hatsumi is like nothing else i have ever seen b4 all this on youtube is what he says is ok so ppl dont c him then copy

  • @britcockney What do you call a person who has studied a particular martial art for 30 or more years? Certainly it doesnt make them a noob or anything like that. This is why I believe Ninjutsu masters exist and that guy is (has to be) one of them. Hell if you do anything for a long period of time and know the IN's and OUT's of said thing you should be called a master so to speak (tennis, wrestling, and of course Martial arts). I would even call an MMA fighter a master if they have 30yrs of exp.

  • @britcockney lmao..ufc uses mma which uses ORIENTAL MARTIAL ARTS and mix them up the westenr mind could have never thought of something like this especially since our way of fighting and religon and belief is way different then westerner we are more committed and serious we dont brag and "pretend to be" like the westerner...and ninjuitsu master do existed put it this way WITHOUT ORIENTAL..MMA WOULD BE NOTHING BUT SHIT AND MIX OF BOXING AND WRESTLING BASE MA WHICH IS SHIT.

  • @britcockney why do you think non-asian country uses asian martial arts all the time and try to invent their own martial arts by taking technique and training from the oriental? Why do you think westerner uses asian training and technique to combine with western made boxing and wreslting(basicly western martial arts is boxing and wrestling realetd) base?why do you think non-asian millitray uses ancient oriental training and technique too. for example the usmc cqb uses bujukanjuitsu to disarm

  • @britcockney without asian their would be no real martial arts beside gay boxing and wrestling base style and they wouldnt even bother making mma

  • @britcockney MMA is a sport.

  • britcockney your words reflect your ignorance.

  • @britcockney Obviously, you have not watched the video

  • @britcockney

    I am Japanese. I totally agree with you. Real Ninja or Ninjutsu disappear long long time ago in japan.

    Because when peace comes under Tokugawa's era, people didnt need to ninja or ninjutsu.

  • @britcockney in strength yes...but ninjutsu does not involve strength but movement of the feet and legs...and just the body...you should do more research before you bash on this wonderful mindblowing art

  • show me in real time with an opponent attacking you and not just standing as a dummy..and then we'll talk.

  • @channelin How about you??? since you are talking here.

  • @ninjutsucom

    wtf? im not the one demonstrating this art am I!! i didnt say i could. your words are completely irrelevant.

  • @channelin go to one of his seminars and challenge him...lol, but if you do, please film it and put it on youtube...I would love to see that.

  • @gamertildeath00

    your seem like a fool. you should question things like this and not believe demonstrations from face value. why are you sticking up for him and his teachings. why do i have to go in and challenge him? if it was effective he can show his dummy opponent attacking him aggressively towards the end and he hasnt done that.

    i'll tell you what since ur a supporter why dont u apply his techniques in a street fight and record and post it on you tube

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  • @channelin I am a fool, I don't know much man...but at least I know how to use proper grammar. I also don't need to make points by ignorantly lashing out at others.

    Why would I go pick a fight? I could care less about proving anything to you. The whole point to any martial art is to avoid physical confrontation...obviously you need to do more research.

  • @gamertildeath00

    you've just proven my point. oh and btw how have i not used proper grammar? are u referring to the typo "your" if so, then your crazy

  • @channelin At my dojo, we do practice some real fighting, and not just the dummy work. One of our guy is a mma trainer, and a soldier. Each time he got against one of our black belts, he lost, or was really close to it. You can't talk about something you haven't felt, or tryed. It's not about watching, it's about feeling.

  • @channelin

    yeah true !

  • i would like to see him go against yoshinori kono. if you dont knowof this man i recommend looking him up.hes pritty good.

  • Hatsumi Bujinkan reppin taylor gang @0:17- 2:02

  • Not all Bujinkan practitioners are pussies, don't cross train or can't fight. I cross train, have been in several fights using taijutsu, and am not a pussy. Am I undefeatable? No. I am not. But I try to get better. Too bad people spend so much time getting mad at the Bujinkan because so many underskilled people are too proud of themselves to withhold bad videos.

  • wish i could train in the real Ninjutsu

    not the fighting art the lifestyle but not only am i 14 without any money or ninjutsu dojo within 100 miles of me

    i dont even understand Japanese so that takes out the thought of going to japan to train here

  • After coming down with MS @48 I now regret wasting 28 years of my life playing at ninjas :( please dont do the same mistake. T Robinson. x Shidoshi x Bujinkan x Ninja

  • @gekiryudojo Trevor, We are sorry to hear of your challenge and wish you the best. If you do something for 28 years it definely was not a mistake - this was a chosen path. It has led you to where you are. Realizations and increased awareness is what the art is all about. Some lessons take longer than others. No one persons lessons are someone else's and each person has there own lessons on the life path. May your future lessons be more joyous.

  • @ninjutsucom Thanks for the wake up, after two years of illness you can get bitter and tired, but if it were not for the training I may not have done so well, Btw we met in the UK in 1883 and 1995 (Stratford)

  • @gekiryudojo Indeed this training will help you in many ways. It is time to model/learn the inner arts. Only a few of us learned this from Soke. Practice meditation and Kokoro No Kamae. All the best - Richard

    BTW - I used NLP/DHE to design my Shodan Course and Shidoshi Course.

  • @ninjutsucom I am a NLP Master practitioner since 1993 I used it to learn to walk again and for my balance, I should use it for more, I don't meditate the zen type now it is against my religion (orthodox Christianity) but I can do other things Kokoro No Kamae. is something of secret weapon in my tool box and why a lot of people are amazed It what I can do with 15 years of MS thanks for reminding me :) Trev

  • @gekiryudojo Meditation is NOT religion.... it has been used by most all religions including Christianity. Call it prayer if you will.. Just sit quietly, close your eyes, find your breath, go deep inside your heart and let God find you there....be with your creator or Jesus. I invite you to do this daily. This is also Kokoro No Kamae training. But it is more powerful when you live it.

    BTW, I am an Elite Master Trainer in NLP and was the 1st to receive DHE trainer Certification from Bandler

  • @ninjutsucom thanks Richard

  • love that spear looking knife towards the end. what do you call it?

  • @silversification I believe that the weapon that you are referring to, as there are several, is called a Kunai. It was a farm tool used for digging in the Earth. They come in various lengths and blade sizes. The scariest one the I have seen (and felt on my neck) was one with shark like teeth on both sides of the bladed edge.

  • it wouldnt be ninjutsu if people didnt doubt it

  • does this man knows fear of his opponent ??

  • @robbertduck This man uses the fear and actions of his opponent to defeat him.

  • @nolanderg

    "the system works, it's legit."

    funny, those 2 have absolutely nothing to do with each other...

    do you have a problem with peter popoff selling "miracle healing water" and "mana" ??

    or what about pyramid schemes and their ilk?

    i just have a problem with all of the frauds that i am aware enough to be able to spot. that is all, you are not alarmed at people claiming things that aren't true, WHILE they take your money? cool, but some people are.

    just dont claim BS ninja shit.

  • that is on lethal mutha funker!

  • I really believe hatsumi’s rule in the universe as the “protector or defender” reaches beyond our physical realms and extend to the spiritual realm. I know stories of hatsumi that would out right make ppl call him the next Buddha or Jesus, and that is exactly what some of his students call him. Hatsumi is the result of the self fully submerged in way of budo as a way of life. It saddens me to see ppl criticize him instead of try to cherish and understand who and what he is.

  • @fardisghomeshi the reason not everyone is fit for this. Nicely said!

  • Every time I see Hatsumi in action, I wonder if someone is ever going to let him in on the joke. Have a heart, guys. He really thinks this is effective because you keep falling when he looks at you funny.

  • @Kiru26 This is simulated fight training and the sharing of action that can be done in a fight contest so that students can practice it for use in a real fight.

    This is not a real war sceen or a battle between student and an 80 year old teacher.

    I have trained with the man when it was very brutal and I still have the wounds on my body. I have no doubt that he can be very effective in any real battle.

  • @ninjutsucom I know it can. I've seen what those moves can do

  • @ninjutsucom have your wounds healed yet?

  • @ninjutsucom ...shit just goes to show don't fuck with hatsumi

  • @ninjutsucom

    Brother its really no use to go past the intial explanation with people like these. Unfortunately we live in a world where the new hot thing "mma" and its practioners are seen as unbeatable. As practioners of of the arts I feel that we should leave the unknown to those who refuse to at least educate themselves. If its their purpose to learn then they will learn the hard way. Keeping the art humble is a way I feel that is staying true to the shadow hand technique and way.

  • @Kiru26 lol I hope you realize he has to be gentle because hes a bone breaking specialist, not to mention the last true Ninja. Your a Dick.

  • @iDarkReBirthi And you're delusional. Have his top students join some MMA fights. I'm not into MMA much, myself, but it is a great way to see if your training is effective against people who can actually fight. I see dumb shit like this all the time, but it never stands up to any serious challenge.

  • @Kiru26 MMA is just two guys lying all over each other with the top huy rubbing his face all over the other guys chests..........

  • @iDarkReBirthi Everyone knows that your enemy will always hold his arm out in a long reach so that you can do all those moves on him, right? If not for attackers being dumb enough to stand there and take it, the Bujinkan methods would never work! Those silly MMA fighters don't know what they're doing, relying on actual speed, power and techniques that work.

  • @Kiru26 O yes I see now it is your true and powerful skills only that should be feared above all other fighting arts........ Although, I was just on your channel and Im confused..... was that technique you used learned from Street Fight or Mortal Kombat? It kinda almost had an oldskool Streets of Rage Sega feel to it, gee if I meet you in a dark ally Id be just up'n'runnin outa there............ O and the inter play between to practicing fighters is called Kata, Kaa Ta, keep practicing sport.

  • @iDarkReBirthi Wow, you dorks really like to dwell. It's kinda hard to take someone seriously when they believe their enemy is going to hold out their arm while they get taken down. For us, the inner play between two practicing actual fighters is called fighting. Get it? If you tried it maybe your "kaa ta" would actually have something worth learning in it.

  • @Kiru26 Ok Mr "The kick goes into his rib cage like a shotgun" Theres just nothing that can be said 2 ppl like you, maybe one day you will realize that Martial Arts is not about fighting and that infact its about cultivating an indomitable spirit so that you can avoid fighting/conflict when ever and where ever possible. In the end the best fighter in the world that dosent know when to walk away loses. But I guess that concept is truly beyond you, Im sure you cant imagine yourself losing, Right?

  • @iDarkReBirthi You spend your time trying to feel as though you are above all the rest, believing you are learning some great and mystical art that sets you apart from the rest of humanity. You say that martial arts is not about fighting to make yourself feel better about running away, while those who are true fighters walk away because they have little to prove. While you go on pretending that your enemy will hold his hand out, real fighters choose not to be stupid.

  • @Kiru26 Have you ever heard of the concept of "self-projection"?

  • @Kiru26 You are full of it. Not into MMA much? You sound just like most of my buddies from Bullshido. Hatsumi Soke is pushing 80 years old and has not always trained this lightly. In fact, not every person in the Bujinkan currently trains this way. Those who do, better have a good excuse....like pushing 80 years of age. Bless you for your wisdom and expertize in MMA and keep going on your journey. I wish that more people were training in their respective paths that bullsh!tting about it on here.

  • @Kiru26 ahah funniest shit ever " looks at you funny " haha u r a god !

  • @0097122 Damn straight, but what exactly are you talking about?

  • @Kiru26 i found that what you said about Hatsmui in your previeous comment to be freakin true and hilarious at the same time ". He really thinks this is effective because you keep falling when he looks at you funny." -by you

    i couldn't find anything more true

  • @Kiru26 I agree,Classical training techniques,all for display.I don't think it really matters what people prefer as long as it works for you and save your ass from a stomping.Respect to all and their time dedicated to their arts.

  • @Kiru26 You should maybe take some time to review the vicious and deadly moves you have posted on your channel. Brutal man, I take back my early statement regarding your journey. Quit immediately, and learn from somebody who has a clue what they are doing. Especially before you start pretending to be critical about people who have been training over twice your lifetime. Poser

  • @TheKozuchi Not sure what "deadly moves" you are talking about. Maybe you think every movement is supposed to be a deadly one? Whatever. Any Bujinkan practice I have seen has included someone lunging ridiculously far with a punch and getting hit all over while standing there, similar to the McDojos all over the place, where they act as though people hold their punches out for a moment. I respect MMA because it is all about practicality, though it lacks the deeper aspects.

  • @Kiru26 Fudoken no tsuki (what you call a lunging punch) is not being done right if somebody is leaning into it off balance (I can fold a heavybag around mine) or leaving their arm out. It is a no-brainer, when training in an art that places emphasis on body mechanics and maintaining balance, while intending to exploit the balance of their opponents. Anybody who punches should not have the expectation of being stopped. Thats a set up for failure. That is the attacker's problem, not Hatsumi's.

  • MMA should, if anything, serve as a wakeup call to the individual that it is they who are responsible and accountable for their own training. It is funny to me when people who think that way, or talk about training that way, slam whole martial arts groups, as if the same rules don't apply to them. Hypocrisy at its finest. When I knock somebody out, it is me, not the art I study that did it. Is it my instructor's (or even Hatsumi's) job to protect me in a fight? No teacher or art does that, ever.

  • That last message was intended for you, Kiru26

  • @Kiru26 Was just watching your lead leg side kick vid. What is your sparring partner's black belt in? Knitting or crocheting? He gave you far too many targets and let you clear the distance needed for your lousy un-chambered side kick, the one which you say "goes into his ribcage like a shotgun." Why you would be proud enough of your videos to post them is beyond me. You are guilty of taking the same advantage of your opponent's lousy distance that you are accusing Hatsumi Sensei of. Hypocrite.

  • @TheKozuchi Wow, you really can't shut up. Something to prove? You may want to seek a real art if you have any desire to prove something. You know, one where you can actually hit a guy you are fighting, rather than have some ass stand there while you work around him. You guys are so pathetic. Honestly, when has your style ever stood up to any test? If you are so confident, enter someone into the UFC. I'd love to see it. Don't try the "deadly skills" argument, either.

  • @Kiru26 I'm not so sure you understand anything about combat. You know sport fighting and I'm sure you know how to use that to extreme lengths that could help you in combat, but there is much more going on than you can see (or not see, depending how you look at it) in these videos. Bujinkan is not about winning sport bouts. It is about survival: knowing the intricacies of life and death, especially in relation to one's self.

    Oh... and Hatsumi could drop you with a stare, if he intended it. =D

  • @bdkelevra A "master" always demonstrated overcoming opponents with his chi. He went up against someone who was not a student and was knocked senseless in the first minute. Delusion doesn't equal training.

  • @Kiru26 eEven though you have made no reference to the incident you are referring to, I can't help but assume it's the infamous "kiai master vs mma" video on youtube. *If* this is what you're basing your opinion on, then you aren't worth trying to help. It's good to see you so passionate about your "own training?" but your remarks are pathetically presented. "Honestly, when has your style ever stood up to any test?" ... for 3000+ years? Of course there are McDojo's around, but not every one is.

  • @Kiru26

    what you fail to realize, since you have never felt the pain of the moves themselves, is that as you fight the move he is employing it only helps him hurt you more. When someone crushes your artery, it doesnt matter if they used only their thumb to do it, there is a tremendous shot of pain, and since nociceptors to the brain can never be shut off, your body WILL react. When you fall its to stop the old man from using your own body wait to leverage ur wrist off. This stuff hurts lots

  • @Kiru26 More like "let his disciples in on the joke". They actually PAY him for this shit! lol

  • @patrickhenrysghost Good point. They are like a religious cult, defending to the death everything they want to believe in. Ya know, much of what I know is illegal in an MMA match, but I still fight in them to improve my own skills. It's not about learning a thousand techniques, it's about training to use what you have.

  • I want to know more about the music in the begining of the video.

    Could anybody tell me where I find it or something similary to that?

    I´d appreciate that.

  • Can you attend if you do not speak Japanese?

  • @nomadicexplorers

    Of course you can..... much of what Soke Hatsumi says in Japanese is translated into English during the classes...... this is also true of other Shihan Hombu dojo classes.

  • @all the drama queens

    Why can't we discuss bujinkan here instead of calling eachother "retard" and "pussy". ninjitsu is a great fighting art and it does not embody this kind of quarrel. so to all of you making drama... get a life and read a book. Peace!

  • @Groovemaster2k

    "Who in their right mind goes to nearly every ninjutsu video on youtube"

    nobody, i only make corrections to comments that portray errors as facts.

    just because i know more on the subject than you, and ask questions that address the LACK OF EVIDENCE in the claims being made... DOESN'T give cause to ignore the perfectly valid evidence in the form of scrolls, and the testimony of the shinobi who HAVE been AUTHENTICATED.

    you should go check out shinobi soldiers, lotsa info.

  • @Creationsofmyown

    It is easy for anyone to get confused on the true history. I encourage you to read Kacems book before stating un-educated statements. These arts have spanned several hundred years and the deepest teachings where kept secret just to keep people alive. Many were family arts that became traditions of knowledge and over the course of many generations the arts evolved using more aspects of training. Lower ranked individuals would never see what is in the true densho, same today.

  • @ninjutsucom

    ". I encourage you to read Kacems book before stating un-educated statements"

    considering the assumptive reasoning kacem uses to base his theories on... i think i will pass... this WAS supposed to be the book that would show the densho, still nothing...

    "Lower ranked individuals would never see what is in the true densho"

    sounds like a set of invisible clothes for the emperor to me...

    if you fall for such easy tricks to occlude the documents he professes to be open to view, pity

  • @ninjutsucom well said.

  • @ninjutsucom

    THANK YOU !!!!

  • @Creationsofmyown please if you are going to post about "shinobi who HAVE been AUTHENTICATED" who exactly are you talking about and where did you come by this information. As far as i can see you make claims but have no proof. So please show us or at least message me where you found this information and who do you believe is an authenticated shinobi, who should replace Hatsumi.

  • @35mmpaintbrush

    Seiko Fujita.

    he was authenticated by the nihon kobudo shinkokai decades before takamatsu even mentioned ninjutsu...

    as for making claims,  since my only claim has been a lack of evidence,... i do not see what i can do... i simply stated the fact that no evidence exists, if you take issue with my negative claim provide evidence for it.

    i cannot prove a negative tho, so what are u asking for?

    i HAVE read the scrolls however, bansenshukai, ninpiden, shoninki... have you?

  • @Creationsofmyown I was asking for your evidence of other masters thank you for your input. I have not read any of these scrolls but now that you have told me a few of the names I will look those up and see if I can find an electronic or reproduced copy as I am incapable of finding the originals. I was not bashing your comments but rather showing the hole in your argument. You never mentioned who the real master is and where you found that information until now. Any other info would be great.

  • @35mmpaintbrush

    my evidence for the claims of fujita lies in his acceptance to the NKS, the most prominent and respected koryu society.

    they require that all applicants demonstrate their school, and provide the densho for it.

    the most startling thing that they found was that fujita was NOT teaching his family's ha of koka ryu to ANYONE.

    ninpo org has them, google the ban and u will find it.

    the translations aren't bad, but not complete.

    Shinobi Soldiers YTseries is a great start

  • @Creationsofmyown fujita's koka ryu wasn't accepted into the nks, you said yourself the school must be demonstrated, fujita himself said no one has ever seen it. nanban sato ryu kempo, shingetsu ryu shurikenjutsu, and daien ryu jojutsu yes koga ryu ninjutsu no. just like kukishinden ryu and takagi yoshin ryu. basically it's the exact same boat.

  • @Creationsofmyown i had a similar debate with someone once!

  • @Creationsofmyown and why does everyone relate shinobi soldiers? that guy obviously says only what he reads, not what he learns or knows.

  • @carnienatas

    "why does everyone relate shinobi soldiers?"

    because it is a great series showing things we can PROVE shinobi did... instead of fantasies they might have done...

    "that guy obviously says only what he reads,"

    and so he should... he wants REAL ninjutsu knowledge not fakes trying to tell him its martial arts. and when his sources are the REAL SHINOBI manuals, i trust what he reads.

    " not what he learns or knows. "

    because nobody still knows ninjutsu, been dead for over 40 years

  • AceDelta how long you been training? I've been at it for 6 months and I love every second of it. Even got my friends and family members into it, they also love it.

  • Before you comment on this art, find a real Bujinkan train for few months then you will see what it is. It is truly a tremendous martial arts used to quickly disable/neutralize multiple attackers. Hatsumi been a great Soke. Too bad this could be his last year.

  • @Arteanor he kicks people out btw bcuz he isn't there to host a history class. You want history? Take a japanese history course. The dojo is for martial arts and martial arts only. Read the fucking handbook retard.

  • @Creationsofmyown hey buddy, stop being a pussy and hiding behind your little screenname and go acttually talk to Hatsumi and say all your bs to his face. That shouldn't be to bad for you since you seem to think that you know way more than he does bout it. So from this point on all your talking is a sign of pussyness until you go say it to hatsumi.

  • forgive me i do not no much about this, but why is there so much attention put on ninjutsu when it is only one out of the nine schools of bujinkan

  • @dylang606 Generally, the nine schools are collectively referred to as Ninjutsu.

  • @Creationsofmyown Yes, i know that ninjutsu was ORIGINALLY not a martial art, it was an adaptation from the samurai budo, but then, it was perfected, and specialized in diferent forms and it became a martial art.

  • actually he is demonstrating advanced applications which would have been useful to someone who has practiced 50+ years, hatsumi's basic techniques are similar to those of chin na, and extremely effective in real situations, hatsumi has written books about the history of ninjitsu as well, but those would probably not be interesting to someone who doesn't like him, either way I can attest to the fact that he is a really great person and a martial master ^_^

  • @Creationsofmyown and what prove to you have to support what to say? Opinions only, once more, you are behaving the same way you reproach bujinkan members to do. As for Kacem, he was granted a card by Japanese gov, to be allowed to research on the origins of ninjutsu. So yes he was a bujinkan practitioner, doesn't mean his research isn't right.

    Your proof aren't worth more than mines.

  • @Creationsofmyown You make assumptions, a lot of them imo, I am no specialist, I know people who have more answers than me, but simply don't care about arguing on youtube, I wonder what evidences you are expected though.

  • @Creationsofmyown Now, it is your opinion, I would recommend you the book of Kacem Zoughari(once it's out in english), this man, from what I know, had access to every scroll, of every school, from every dojo, even those from Hatsumi, I didn't read his book, didn't have the occasion, and waiting for the English one which should be more furnished than the French one, I would say, if you have any interest in ninjutsu, that this book might be a great source of infos.

  • I'm impressed to see the same ppl who continue to go to every video of ninjutsu, just to say bad things about it, I was at a seminar last week end, and what I saw was anything but fake, I have talked with people with actual fighting experience, from army, to the legion(France), to police etc, I have seen the best(imo) French shihan (Arnaud Cousergue) and talked with him, and I can say that ninjutsu is efficient, more than a lot of MA.

  • @Nordrian

    im impressed that so many of you argue back with religious fervor to protect your own cognitive dissonance...

    i have already told you before, im not a hater, i LIKE the bujinkan... but that DOESNT mean that its ninjutsu...

    there is absolutely NO evidence that ninjutsu is or includes martial arts, fighting styles, combat techniques, taijutsu... whatever you want to call it...

  • @Creationsofmyown there's no "religious favor" in the way I defend it, I just work with logic, and of course, since for the quality of an art, there's no objectivity, I bring my subjective point of view, Hatsumi doesn't call it ninjutsu, but budo taijutsu, for the simple reason that it's a mix of school, we call it sometimes ninjutsu because people will more easily make the link if you talk of ninjutsu than of ninpo taijutsu.

  • @Creationsofmyown

    well, ninjutsu is a martial art, because, it DOES include fighting styles, combat technques, taijutsu...

    want to know how i know, that'll be because i study it, ive been studying it for a while now, and i can assure you that the techniques they show us, are part of even older ninjutsu schools of which, as i said before, there are very few scrolls because all of the techniques were past on orally

  • @Creationsofmyown A classic example of somebody being superfluous with their language to try and appear more intelligent. Is that a Youtubejutsu technique?

  • @Creationsofmyown my guess is that most ninja used to be samurai so they already had their combat techniques documented.

  • @Creationsofmyown

    I didn't say I was right, I just said that was what I had heard and read

    but I'm not much into ninjutsu anymore, so I'll just leave it at that

  • @Creationsofmyown

    Oh, from what I've read/heard both from the internet and my former ninjutsu "seinsei", so to speak, "ninjas" were farmers who used this martial art to defend themselves against oppressing samurai.

    I won't decline, though, that a huge part of ninjutsu is a way of thinking

  • The oldest living ninja today, aged 79, he may be old but believe me he can still move like the wind!! Dr. masaaki hatsumi is legendary..

  • By the way, combat was a part of ninjutsu because sometimes they had to fight against the samurai with armor, so they needed an effective way to take them down so they could kill them, pretty much like, judo, or a martial art practiced by spartans. And the scrolls, well, most of the teachings thought by ninjas were transfered by training and not so much by being written. Takamatsu sensei was taught several techniques of which there were no scrolls, and later, Takamastu sensei wrote them down.