@fifilaru Actually, all the influential music and art that was produced by Downtown artists from the 70s on, and which was emblematic of New York itself, was created by your so-called "wannabes" and NOT Cooper Union or NYU students.
Before the gentrification. Before the artists. Before it got trendy and cute-trified. Back when it was considered slummy. Back when it was cheap to live there. Please God, bring it back!
@robertwmartens: There were always artists in the EV. Cheap housing so they could do their work. Charlie Parker lived on Ave B, and Allen Ginsburg lived in the EV also. The beat generation and the beatniks...that scene wasn't happening in Brooklyn.
@butohbaby Yeah, I see your point. I'm just reacting from the P.O.V. of a guy fresh out of college who didn't see downtown New York, and East Village, until the late 1970s. Compared to today, Astor Place in 1978 looked pretty much the same as in this movie. Sure, cool stuff was already percolating behind the storefronts, but it was all invisible to me at that time. I wish I knew, back then!
@Lisanne78RPM I saw a 1962 Oldsmobile, as well as at least two 1961 Ford taxicabs, so I think this was either 1962 or even in 1963, before the city repainted the traffic signals yellow. The yellow signals were more commonplace in Manhattan by November 1963. Very fascinating to see!
@Lisanne78RPM I'm curious-- what was Freedomland? earliest visit to NYC was in Summer of '72- I was 18- before moving there in '77. Thanks for your sharp eye & detailed info!
@zensolo It was a amusement park which was opened only for a short period of time. It was in the Northern Bronx. My sister went there once, can't remember why but I didn't.
Even more than the emptiness, what strikes me is the average walking speed. It almost feels as if the little movie is played too slowly. But the emptiness is striking too, especially the lack of parked cars.
Beautiful. Thank you for making this available.
If anyone has any idea about when this is, based on the cars or buildings that are still standing or haven't yet been build, I would love to hear it. I'm terrible at guessing that sort of thing.
wow. love this. thanx....I notice in comments a reference to FREEDOMLAND- I went there when i was about 3-4 yrs old !....steph
stephenspera 10 months ago
The new streetlights were not installed on the streets until mid-1963 so the
mixture of old and new would suggest 1963 or 1964.
brooklyn4boy 1 year ago
With the Cooper Union and NYU, it was always a place for artists. The wannabes moved in around 1980 or so.
fifilaru 1 year ago
@fifilaru Actually, all the influential music and art that was produced by Downtown artists from the 70s on, and which was emblematic of New York itself, was created by your so-called "wannabes" and NOT Cooper Union or NYU students.
IzzyIsou 6 months ago in playlist Vintage New York
don draper driving the oldsmobile
lavidaesbella22 1 year ago
Thank you Lisanne78RPM & catfan for narrowing it down and also for sharing the clues; things for me to look out for - appreciate it.
RuweRanden 1 year ago
Before the gentrification. Before the artists. Before it got trendy and cute-trified. Back when it was considered slummy. Back when it was cheap to live there. Please God, bring it back!
robertwmartens 1 year ago
@robertwmartens: There were always artists in the EV. Cheap housing so they could do their work. Charlie Parker lived on Ave B, and Allen Ginsburg lived in the EV also. The beat generation and the beatniks...that scene wasn't happening in Brooklyn.
butohbaby 1 year ago
@butohbaby Yeah, I see your point. I'm just reacting from the P.O.V. of a guy fresh out of college who didn't see downtown New York, and East Village, until the late 1970s. Compared to today, Astor Place in 1978 looked pretty much the same as in this movie. Sure, cool stuff was already percolating behind the storefronts, but it was all invisible to me at that time. I wish I knew, back then!
robertwmartens 1 year ago
AWESOME!!! Thank you so much for posting!
mustbenice96 1 year ago
I saw a billboard for Freedomland, so it has to be between 1960 and 1963.
Lisanne78RPM 1 year ago
@Lisanne78RPM I saw a 1962 Oldsmobile, as well as at least two 1961 Ford taxicabs, so I think this was either 1962 or even in 1963, before the city repainted the traffic signals yellow. The yellow signals were more commonplace in Manhattan by November 1963. Very fascinating to see!
catfan 1 year ago
@Lisanne78RPM I'm curious-- what was Freedomland? earliest visit to NYC was in Summer of '72- I was 18- before moving there in '77. Thanks for your sharp eye & detailed info!
zensolo 1 year ago
@zensolo It was a amusement park which was opened only for a short period of time. It was in the Northern Bronx. My sister went there once, can't remember why but I didn't.
Lisanne78RPM 1 year ago
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zensolo 1 year ago
Even more than the emptiness, what strikes me is the average walking speed. It almost feels as if the little movie is played too slowly. But the emptiness is striking too, especially the lack of parked cars.
Beautiful. Thank you for making this available.
If anyone has any idea about when this is, based on the cars or buildings that are still standing or haven't yet been build, I would love to hear it. I'm terrible at guessing that sort of thing.
RuweRanden 1 year ago
a pleasure to watch. what year?
rappel101 2 years ago