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  • I wonder where are the comments from believers. THeir absence is rather suspicious....

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  • @kadene2 I am a believer in Jesus Christ and love God with all my hearth, I also believe, Marjoe, only use the name of God to make money.

  • His parents were the Pageant Moms of the 1900's.

    The parallels are...sickening.

  • Holy shit this is fucking creepy.

  • its a friggin pandemic

    

  • For some reason, when I hera his name, I think of two lines from two seperate things he acted in: One was a line from FOOD OF THE GODS...."Where's you get those God-damned chickens?" and one from a TV movie about "People don't need some pie in the sky when they die by and by...they want it right here, right now. And they want it ala mode." My mom loved him.

  • Thank you reddit

  • Yep. Just saw this referenced on page 156 of the greatness of "god is not Great"

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  • sent here by r/atheism

  • Thank for tahing your time to answer!!!

  • Child abuse!!! Poor little fellow, later on was his choise to continue, but it was all he knew to do, deceive, lie, etc. What came out of him as an older man, I bet its not doing well, does somebody knows?

  • @1justice2012 Wikipedia says he became an actor (though not a particularly famous one) and then went on to become some sort of organiser for charity sporting events before retiring two years ago when he turned 66. He's 68 now.

  • I'm an Orthodox catachumen who came out of the Pentecostal and Word of Faith movement. I found this by my own research.

  • "IM IN TOWN TO GIVE THE DEVIL TWO BLACK EYES"

  • sent here by the Hitch

  • cracked.com

  • Thumbs up if you got here from reading god is not Great from the great now diceased amazing debater and exemplary militant atheist Christopher Hitchens.

  • "She would lose her patience with me and put a pillow over my head and smother me for a little bit, other times she would hold me under a water faucet..." FFS!!!

  • That's at 4:00

  • damit laci

  • Marjoe Gortner He was the bully in the movie when You coming back Redryder

  • Thumbs up if Christopher Hitchens Sent you here!

  • sent by cracked!

  • gotta see the entire documentary, quite an american story....

  • hitchen's "god is not great" sent me here

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  • God... anyone else almost cry when he said his mother used to try to smother/drown him? poor kid :(

  • I'd say he'd do well on America's Got Talent.

  • hahaha hes just a good troll and a good actor

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  • cracker ass crackers 

  • religion is a load of rubbish. try living in this world not some ficticious hereafter

  • EEK! Evil looking woman. Run for the hills!

  • This is our sick evangelical circus act & this holds true today with all those morons on T.v...I look at Joel, Billy & all those clowns who will end up in hell or dead under a nuclear attack..

  • @riramosra i have to say he is already quite gd and to the sense brave and a true repent for if i was him, i wont have half the guts he had to admit to public wat he scammed

  • Thank you for posting this overlooked, great, important and thoroughly scary documentary.

    Oscar very well deserved.

  • Thanks Margot.

  • sent here by cracked

  • Ironic that the crowds he preached to though it was a miracle of their god when in reality it was the product of child abuse 

  • what a terrible childhood this poor man had to endure

  • terrifying film.

  • wasn't this kid on the first Willy Wonka?

  • That's crisp clear for a 70s video

  • @azndork213 40s. 

  • As a proud Christian, I don't hesitate to say that this is EXTREMELY messed up. Parents turning their kid into a sideshow act for cash. Disgusting.

  • this is disturbing...

  • how many pasters and ministers does this film take down

  • A model of American evangelical bosh. Very little has changed, even in light of such a film (1972) I was born 1974 and don't recall my brainwashed parents (Pentecostal) allowing me to watch this film.

  • Poor little buggar...Mom & Dad should've gone to jail. He was such a little genius and totally exploited by his parents who's god was the almighty dollar.

    Christianity should be illegal.

  • "When I was born it really was a miracle because I was born by cesarean, and when they opened up my mother, the cord was around my neck three times."

    It wasn't a miracle. God was trying to abort him.

  • Poor child. Victim of religion abuse.

  • Fascinating, looks like his mother invented waterboarding.

  • anybody who knows about torrents can download it here.

    thepiratebay . org / torrent / 4284577 / Marjoe.1972.DVDRip .XviD-FreakyFlicks

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  • This movie/documentary, or whatever the hell it is, is a classical example of the effects of one of the most GHASTLY forms of child abuse: CHILD INDOCTRINATION ! It still amazes me, how a lot of people see this as a highly commendable act of devout parents and NOT by what it really is: PSYCHOLOGICAL CHILD ABUSE...one of the most dangerous forms of child abuse! 

  • @N8kednoiZ

    Well said.

  • "My mind would slip, finally my mother would begin to lose her patience with me and she would put a pillow over my head maybe, and smother me for a little bit. Other times she would put my head under the water faucet. But she never wanted to put any marks on my body because she knew i had to be infront of the press, and so she never hit me or anything" Yeah... that sounds like a great christian right there. what a Horrible mother!

  • Is that J Vernon McGee at 2:50?

  • CHILD ABUSE no wonder this guy ended up a CON MAN.

  • Thumbs up if you were sent here by Laci Green :P

  • @NaomiPriice i wish she would have spelled the name marjoe,i spent 5 mins looking for marjo on yt and googling it lol.HADOKEN!!!!!!!!

  • @TheDarkHadoken Aw, lmao! Ah, I love Laci though:)

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  • @NaomiPriice I was sent here by Cracked. :)

  • @NaomiPriice I'm just so predictable. Thumbs up.

  • @NaomiPriice nope, cracked :)

  • @NaomiPriice im smart enuf to type "marjoe" on....

  • @Afroxec What do you want? A gold star? I'm just spreading Laci Love ^^

  • @NaomiPriice who the fuck is that cunt?

  • @Afroxec The best person on youtube.

  • @NaomiPriice um....no.

  • @Afroxec Um...Yes.

  • @NaomiPriice pfft

  • Christopher Hitchens sent me here.

  • @bfoaliali Haha! Me too, man. Ive just reached that part in the book, and had to see it to believe it.

  • Hmm, Jesus did not start His ministry until He ws 12, yet Marjoe started at 3. I wonder if that was on his one free will.

  • Nothing like getting married by a 4 year old kid wearing SHORT PANTS!

  • @hipstermi lol

  • Can you say "Child Abuse"?

  • @MrMetallidude Verry Goood!

  • Now I finally know who Michael Savage is talking about when he makes Marjoe references on his show. I think he is talking about Glenn Beck when he talks about someone impersonating Marjoe. lol

  • Just relating a personal experience. I met him, he was nice enough to help me out and I'm lucky that he did. That's all. I know what the documentary is about. I saw it when it was new.

  • Scariest movie I've ever seen.

  • The way he did the marriage service was appalling. He may have been very young clergyman but that does not make him any good.

  • I have Maestro. He was significant in my life for the help he rendered during an adverse time.

  • @kauipaul I suggest you google his name, or at least search his name on Wikipedia.

  • @kauipaul You obviously don't realize what this documentary is about.

  • @kauipaul Marjoe is an ahteist, lol, watch the hole documentary!

  • @kauipaul a "real christian" probably wouldn't have done the same ;)

  • @kauipaul you know he was a big farce right? he doesn't believe in any thing he said, he was acting, not hating on your story just saying...

  • @GreenEiedmonster Your wording is a bit misleading. He was EXPOSING the farce of religion, trying to help bring to light the tricks of the priests (in this case ministers). Sadly, most ignored this work...

  • @kauipaul, I saw your comment from 8 months ago. Do you think Marjoe is truly saved? After seeing some of these video, I honestly don't know. It's kind of like the story of the boy who cried wolf.

  • @Genesis2Jesus It's sad but I can the reason why. I believe his story because he never saw any of the money he made.

  • @fashionhistorylover, I wonder what his life is like now; does he believe in Jesus Christ or not. Has he given his life over to Christ or not. Just wondering where he will spend eternity.

  • @kauipaul ...he's an atheist

  • I remember reading about this in Hitchens Book God is not great, Heard it one an academy award.

  • "No, it claims common ancestor" What is that to me? and is that suppose to be an answer?... "some may be from the fish species," What?... "but it evolved into other species prior to evolving into a monkey," First off, you didn't heard how funny this sound before you sent this? LOL And what is "it" that turned into a monkey?... : )

    "and even if we do this same process i doubt we will get another monkey," LMBO reading this. This isn't funny to you?... LOL

  • @wisefreethinker242 Species that came before it, check the fossil record, otherwise shut it. You want an origin theory, check Abiogenesis. It sounds funny, but it's proven and is a lot more plausible than a god just poofed it all into existence... Depending on what evolutionary steps it takes, the fish would become any possible number of branching species that then branch off into other species and branch off into other species depending on what it's adapting to and the evolutionary steps taken

  • @lordlandraid And no, you have not proven that a monkey turned into a chimp. LOL

    Really, who do you take me for?... A child?...

  • @wisefreethinker242 No, I take you for an indoctrinated fool who has been programed not to look at anything that doesn't pertain to the bible and subsequently defies any and all evidence to the contrary. Instead making baseless claims and straw man arguments in a futile attempt to make your assumptions look better than evidence. Again, check the fossil record, I cannot show you pictures on youtube, google transitional fossils. You can't disprove me when you have made no attempt to understand me.

  • @lordlandraid You can't even get your childish ideas in order, and nor do they make any sense what so ever, and you calling me a indoctrinated fool?... LOL

  • @wisefreethinker242 They are in perfect order, you just don't understand them because your uneducated, which is becoming increasingly evident in the fact you keep repeating the same shit that I have told you time and time again that has nothing to do with the other. In order for me to show any proof to you I would have to empty your head of the pile of feces festering in it and replace it with a clue...

  • @lordlandraid Why do you want me to believe your mixed up ideas that does even make sense?... And why do you even follow me around spreading ignorance?...

  • @wisefreethinker242 BECAUSE YOUR SPREADING THE IGNORANCE! I have facts on my side, I have scientific theories, I have fossils, I have data, I have proven dating methods, I have several fields of science that study many different things, and things they find in reference to any animal points towards evolution. It's that simple.

  • @lordlandraid Doesn't make sense, sorry about that. It does not make sense!

  • @wisefreethinker242 The worst part is is that geologists actually went out with a preconceived notion that the flood occurred and set out to find evidence to prove it, only to find the opposite. Even people who went out to prove biblical stories said they didn't find anything supporting it, instead finding things that go completely against it. All you have left is faith because no one in the scientific field believes your crap anymore. Many still believe in god, but not the stories in the bible

  • @wisefreethinker242 And you also seem to have this notion that believing evolution means denying god in which that one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. It's the date that's wrong. God can still exist and he may, we can't prove one way or the other because we have no means to prove or disprove the supernatural.

  • @lordlandraid Is your job at risk or something?... lol

  • @wisefreethinker242 If you're going to keep trying to refute claims by science you can at least look into the basics instead of preaching shit you obviously have no understanding about. I can prove evolution, you cannot prove creation. And the fact you even accept and defiantly defend with no credible evidence your beliefs and then claim everyone else is ignorant is only showing of how ignorant you are when you don't even attempt to find out what someone else is claiming.

  • @lordlandraid Go eat a banana, or turn a FSIH into a CHIMP! lol

  • @wisefreethinker242 Yeah, okay, you have no argument so you've decided to degrade into a fucking troll... Your an idiot... I've said why it works, I've said why your wrong, I've proven why your wrong, and after being proved wrong you have degraded into repeating the same line over and over again, becoming and internet troll, and only proving my point that you're an uneducated idiot. You've devolved from a guy with some intelligence to an internet troll... Beautiful... Nature at work -_-

  • @lordlandraid I've decided to turn into a troll?... lol All you've been doing is cursing and talking non-sense that I've refuted already. STOP WASTING MY TIME, I DIDN'T COME HERE TO ARGUE WITH A STONE. lol Dang, get out of here and stop following me around!

  • @wisefreethinker242 I'll continue to follow you as long as you act like an idiot. You've attempted to refute what I say and I have subsequently disproven you and only further solidified the fact that I know what I'm talking about. You're arguing with a human, and if you wanna use comparisons you're the only stone here because your beliefs are immovable and refuse to accept anything that goes against it. You can't prove it, you can't find it, and god doesn't listen to you...

  • @lordlandraid how do u know god is listening to u?

  • @Kengichy I didn't say he did... and frankly if he did I wouldn't care... The christian gods 'followers' have caused so much damage that I frankly wouldn't care if this Sob popped into my room to prove himself. I'd probably kick him right in the sack and start yelling at him about why he provided the bible in the first place if, being the all knowing god that he is, knew it would bring death, destruction, and an absolute war against intellect that these close-minded morons have caused...

  • @lordlandraid you do know that it was our freedom that made us like that and not him right? you cant blame the lord for everything, the bible brings people together but i agree it also causes differences between one another, i like your points though they are very intriguing, we must speak more on this matter since i do too have views on catholicism.

  • @Kengichy I don't really have a problem with religion in general, I have a problem with the followers who are so god damn adamant about their beliefs that they discard any and all knowledge to the contrary while constantly attacking and threatening those who disagree, either with misrepresentation of the other side or threatening and killing them just to keep them silent. I have no respect for christianity as a whole, they haven't earned it, and from their track record they never will...

  • @Kengichy I'd be more than happy to talk about this kind of stuff.

  • @lordlandraid well in that case then other religions shouldnt get any respect either since in a way they are all doing the same thing by spreading the word of the one above and trying to convert others. i dont see why any one cant practice what they preach especially christians, muslims, islams, etc. basically the whole shebang. What i want to know is if the bible is really what it is, how do we know that its real, or the "truth", they say the devil can deceive in many different ways, how do kno

  • @Kengichy You can present these kinds of arguments to people like this and all they will do is get pissy because they never thought of it like that. Then they'll just go through the process of attacking you with assumptions without actually answering the question... And yeah, the other religions do a lot of it, too. Except one big difference. The other ones didn't silence scientific advancement (aside from islam). I've never heard of buddhism doing that...

  • @lordlandraid id like to have an open chat u got an msn email? but anyways what do u mean by silencing scientific advancement?

  • @Kengichy Destruction of books, silencing or killing of scientists, execution of those who spoke out against the church, basically 1,000 years of darkness... The dark ages, a large stain on humanities history... The churches war against the understanding of ANYTHING if god wasn't involved...

  • @lordlandraid how do we know its not setup by him

  • @wisefreethinker242 We will probably never again get a monkey or a human if we simulate this process or every land animal is wiped out and brought to extinction and sea life once again adapts to live on land. The evolutionary process is almost always different except for in the rare cases of parallel evolution in which it turns into the same species of a cousin species. That's the explanation, and it's really funny to me you think some madman is watching over us and made us to worship him...

  • @lordlandraid sorry, a fish into a chimp!

  • @wisefreethinker242 Instead you say 'that can't work', 'it sounds silly', or 'god did it', while I sit here providing evidence, telling you where to find evidence, and providing explanations. How about you take a step further, instead of outright saying 'no' actually look into it instead of reciting crap you have heard from your local priest or fellow creationist.

  • Marjoe was slapped around by his mom & dad if he lost focus or messed up during a performance (i.e., unpardonably began acting like a typical 6 y.o.). But never in the face, or anywhere else a bruise would show. Performance was indeed what it was -- the kid has simply memorized Bible passages, certain evangelistic phrases, certain ceremonies, and a retinue of dramatic gestures. It's evangelistic vaudeville; only fools would take this B.S. for real (but many did).

  • That's a really bad thing to do to a child, but this does not refute the fact that God exists. He was trained to do and say those things. This is no reason for me to stop believing what is truth. This exposes the evil of atheism, if you asked me.

  • @wisefreethinker242 It doesn't prove that God doesn't exist. It just shows that there's no real difference between a "man of god" and someone pretending to be one. Furthermore, it shows that worshippers are extremely gullible when it comes to believing the proponents of their religion. Insist that all preachers prove their authenticity by following Mark 16:18... have them drink a bottle of Dran-o. True followers of Christ can survive it.

  • @wisefreethinker242

    You completely missed the point, didn't you? Yes, Marjoe was a fraud, but he was no different than any other Evangelical preacher. He used psychological manipulation to get people to believe what he wanted them to believe. Many religions (and cults) do this. There's nothing "godly" about the holy spirit.

  • @blahblahyourmom No, I did not miss the point. It means he is a liar, that's it! And I never said atheists aren't any less moral than religious people. And atheism is a religion, and there are many liars in your religious believe, and they are called evolutionists. And everyone is a bigot to you people, even if someone don't agree with something disgusting. I live by what is natural and true, not by evil and twisted lust and no selfcontrol, and selfrighteousness.

  • @wisefreethinker242 Atheism is not a religion... Your religion began calling it such within the last couple of decades... It cannot be a religion because it does not have a god. It has no religious beliefs, no deity, no falsehoods, and doesn't make any claims, at all. Evolution is about as much a religion as being atheist. Reason being, it's an explanation. And I can prove this if necessary. It's a word who's meaning hasn't changed since your religion decided to try to attack it.

  • @lordlandraid turn a fish into a monkey, then come talk to me!

  • @wisefreethinker242 I don't have to, that's not how evolution works, and if I did that would be a point to your side because only magic tricks and a divine power making me morph into another creature would be the only possible explanation. I've explained evolution to you a dozen times and you still cling to these misconceptions about it as though it was true. It's not. It's a straw man. It doesn't claim this to ever occur. It would go against everything evolution teaches.

  • @wisefreethinker242 So frankly, if your waiting for me to turn into a fish before taking any of this seriously we're going to be here long after you and I are dead seeing as how it's never freaking happening...

  • @wisefreethinker242 Sorry, thought you were talking about me, even so, same response, just replace the appropriate words like 'making a monkey morph into a fish' and such.

  • @wisefreethinker242 And it's funny you call us atheist because the first ones to be called atheist were the christians by the Romans because they didn't believe in the Roman pantheon. Isn't history fun? You'll find through history that the way the word has been used is 'doesn't believe in MY god'

    This is being atheist: Disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings

    ... That's it. Nothing further than that. No belief system, no teachings, no higher power, nothing... just lack of a god

  • @wisefreethinker242 You've said a few times atheist are FAR less moral to me, so what is this? Change of heart? Mixed messages? What? Atheism isn't arguable as a religion because it meets none of the criteria of a religion, they just lack a holy book blocking their vision of the world. That simple. It's not a religion, never has been, never will be, mostly because every last two year old on the planet is atheist since they don't have a religion... You live by what is natural and true huh?...

  • @wisefreethinker242 No self righteousness?... You 'really' want me to take a crack at that since that is you in every conceivable way or are you willing to just drop it?... Evil and twisted lust and no self control? My mere existence proves you wrong on that point. Why? Atheist and a virgin...

  • @lordlandraid And there is not morals in atheism, because it is based do as thou wilt. You get to choose what is moral to you. And I say again, turn a fish into a monkey, then come talk to me about your religion not based on falsehood. By the way, you worship man, and they are evolutionists, governments, musicians, etc. And don't even lie, I've heard you people said before, "We are gods, we decide right from wrong" and calling people who you love some much "gods". Atheists are very religious!

  • @wisefreethinker242 So do you, seeing as how your holy book wants everyone dead. You're not out killing people, I assume that's a moral choice, so you're making your own morals such as i am making mine. I don't worship man, I just don't worship your god or any god for that matter. People like you have said the exact same fucking thing, this isn't a one-sided point. We're not gods, we're creators, we create things but only through naturalistic means.

  • @lordlandraid Where did life came from, because I'm sick of you and the samethings I've explain to you. Where did life come from?...

  • @wisefreethinker242 Read the big bang theory research papers, I'm arguing against you going out, telling everyone is wrong, bashing evolution, and telling random people to repent because you don't like their lifestyles, it is not my job to inform you of something that can be found with a google search. And frankly, where did your god come from? If he already existed, why can't we save a step and say everything else always existed? It works both ways.

  • @lordlandraid That big bomb is a myth, and I've broken that down for you already, don't play with me.

  • @wisefreethinker242 And I've explained to you why it's not, you obviously didn't look into it, and instead, like many creationists, claim it is absolutely wrong and refuse to take even a glance at it. That's not proof, that's not science, and it's a flat out lie when you say it's been disproved when you don't even know what the hell it is. And lying is a sin. Quick, to the christ mobile! You must get to the church so you can confess!

  • @wisefreethinker242 Evolution has never claimed that a monkey will turn into a fish, NEVER! You and every other freaking creationist seem to have this same problem of claiming that evolution claims such nonsense even though you have been told a thousand times that you are wrong and proven so. Your inability to either read or understand the reasons why your wrong is not our fault nor does it prove your god. Trying to disprove creation is not going to bring you closer to proving god.

  • @lordlandraid First off all, there is no way you could have explain to me nothing got active and created something as small as a pin head dot that had everything in it, because that would require God. Second, evolution says one fish turn into one monkey, that then morphed into man. Which means monkeys would even exists, and that one man with no female woman for him, would have to have sex with a fish. LOL

  • @wisefreethinker242 Actually he would have had to have sex with a stone, because it was so said one fish evolved from ONE bacteria by chance(mistake), that somehow made other fishes?..... LOL

  • @wisefreethinker242 It's always groups that evolved, not one particular animal, but groups of them coming about through the same process, this is your misconception of evolution. It doesn't state 1 animal evolved into others, it was always groups of 1 said animal. Evolution does not claim origin of life, stop throwing it in there. Doesn't claim one bacteria evolved into anything. It explains diversity of life, not origin for the umpteenth time. Do you think I'm gonna forget what I've said?

  • @lordlandraid Answer me this one question. You believe ONE animal can literally turn into MANY animals?... How so, and do you have proof of this?... Because I'd really love to see this. : )

  • @wisefreethinker242 Yes, check the fossil record, we have recorded incidents of this through the fossil record. And it's not ONE animal, it's ONE SPECIES of animal, I.E. a large group of the same animal adapting to the climate. Adaptation can take many forms and is not set to a singular evolutionary step to adapt to the climate. That's why we have so many different species of birds.

  • @lordlandraid Oh right, ONE bacteria turned into one animal species. Yes, that make sense, there is nothing wrong with that.

  • @wisefreethinker242 Again, NO! That would be origin, evolution does not explain origin, it never has, it never will, and the reason being is because it's an explanation of the diversity of life, NOT IT'S ORIGIN!... Jesus christ! How many fucking times do I have to repeat myself before you stop shoving evolution into origin?

  • @lordlandraid And that suppose to make sense that it doesn't explain the origin?...

  • @wisefreethinker242 It's explained fine, and my explanation is sound. You just can't understand because any idea of something other than absolute creation brings up the windows crash error in your brain. You not being able to understand it, or even attempt to freaking grasp it, does not prove you right. It proves you ignorant of any scientific process and the fact you keep trying to delve into it is an insult to anyone who gives two shits about trying to understand the world.

  • @lordlandraid You don't want me to understand is what, and you know that I do. You know I understand what you are trying to lie to me about, and you don't like that I know this.

  • @wisefreethinker242 No, you obviously don't know anything other than what you were told by other people in your religious group. That's not proof. And most of them probably have no idea what the fuck they are talking about either. The date for creationism is wrong, the universe was not created 6000 years ago, it was created several billion years ago. A god still could have created it but not in your preconceived time line because it has been proven to be much, MUCH older

  • @wisefreethinker242 I want you to understand, I want you to understand that you're wrong. You have no evidence except for blind faith. The fact you're resorting to such frivolous crap about my job only shows me that you no longer have a valid argument. Instead trying to bring the focus to me instead of focusing on the fact that what you preach is complete bullcrap.

  • @lordlandraid I have blind faith? turn a fish into a chimp please!

  • @wisefreethinker242 I've looked into what you claim, I've determined it to be garbage and untestable conclusions based on other untestable conclusions based on assumptions of the universe and the world around us. unlike you i have attempted to understand your side as well and have thoroughly determined it be bullcrap, untestable, and supernatural. And you want this shit to be taught in schools. You gotta be fucking kidding me...

  • @wisefreethinker242 Fish into chimp over an extraordinarily long period of time, you seem to be thinking it happened in a relatively short period in which it actually took many millions of years of evolution to get to the point we are at now. This didn't happen yesterday, unlike your claim of shit being brought into existence 6000 years ago. This took millions of years of evolutionary change and adaptation to the environment. It's a sound theory, and it's been proven time and time again...

  • @lordlandraid You sound stupid, I asked you to do something. TURN A FISH INTO A CHIMP!