This song lights a fire within my soul screaming at my brain to send an e-mail to the creator of BS:G to think of more episodes and bring back the who freaking show. I will now step away from the keyboard and contemplate.
In case anybody missed this, the "imaginary" Six and Baltar were Angels.The real Six and Baltar lived out their lives and upon dying entered the spirit world where time and space have absolutely no meaning.Thats why Baltar could never lie to his "imaginary" Six. THIS HAS ALL HAPPENED BEFORE.. She had been there and knew him inside and out. The writer(s) reveal this in the last episode showing the two Angels on Earth in the modern day.
love it i can just picture the Cylon civil war and them blowing each other out into space with nukes and the vipers and heavy raiders shooting down the other teams raiders and then the vipers firing the nukes attached to their wing........love it
@imorriso1 I actually think the soundtrack for season 2 was the best. Season 3 was good, and had some fantastic tracks like "Battlestar sonatica" but overall wasn't as good. I didn't really care for the shift in musical style for season 3 and 4.
@Erghest Season 3 has my two favourite BSG tracks (Precipice and the music for the attack on New Caprica), and Season 4 has "Kara Remembers", so I have trouble faulting them!
That said, I think I have to agree with you that I liked the style of the earlier tracks better, even if McCreary's work was really hitting its stride in the last two seasons.
@JumpFirstLookLater1 I'd start with "it was a contrived deus ex machina that ended in the absurd suicide of the entire human race" and work my way up from there. It demonstrated that the writers were pulling everything out of their asses for the last two seasons and that all indications that they knew where the hell they were going were just smoke and mirrors. It pretty much killed the franchise for me.
@imorriso1 the human race did not commit suicide though so there is a large flaw in your argument and that could be said about every show, there are almost always flaws that indicate that, it is not uncommon
@JumpFirstLookLater1 Yes they DID. They threw out all their medicine and education so that their children could die of starvation and malaria, and canonically only Hera contributed any DNA whatsover to the future of humanity. They launched their entire civilisation into the sun because Apollo went batty and had a hippy moment.
@imorriso1 they cant throw away education, they threw away their technology and there was plenty of food on earth, how do you think the human race survived and its all part of nature, and actually hera was mitochondrial eve, that means she is the oldest common ancestor to everyone, that means that every human gained genes from hera not she was the only one that contributed. and they did that because they all wanted a fresh start without the technology that caused their downfall
That isn't what "mitochondrial eve" means. The humans that survived weren't the colonials, they were native: the colonial culture is dead, and all that remains of them is a largely inconsequential contribution to the human genetic code. The colonials committed cultural suicide.
Their tech didn't cause their downfall, their prejudices did. They had a chance to break the cycle, and they chose to wipe their hands of it and let their descendants make the same mistakes.
@imorriso1 then what does mitochondrial eve mean? they were a mix of the colonials and the native population and the humans shown later are exactly like the colonials, that will be because the colonials had superior dna to the natives so natural selection chose that dna, and ofcourse they did, because their culture was filled with death and destruction their culture caused their downfall
cylons = their tech so yes it did and that is only implied
So one technology that goes bad--because it's managed badly--is valid justification for starting over from scratch? There wasn't anything inherently bad about their artifical intelligence tech. Cylons only rebelled against them because they insisted on enslaving them. And their ships? Their medicine? That's the only reason they weren't all dead in the first episode!
Condemning their children to the stone age was an idiotic, immoral decision that only was made because of author fiat.
and it had happened before, that was said, it was also said that it would happen again if they didnt break the cycle, so thats what they did, break the cycle. yes it was but if they did not have technology then they wouldnt need all that in the first episode
it was not, it was allowing their children to live instead of be subject to a cycle of death and destruction
For gods sake just wikipedia it. Mitochondrial eve is nothing special.
And they didn't break the cycle. The angels said as much. The "cycle" was a product of BSG's malevolent god, not an inevitable result of their technology. The cycle continues as long as god says so, and the colonials didn't do a damned thing about it by offing themselves.
Oh, so instead their children get to die of malaria, starvation, or, if they're lucky, old age at 30. How benevolent of them.
@imorriso1 i seriously beg to differ, mitochondrial eve is humanities common ancestor, that means that every human has genes from mitochondrial eve and we are all related to her
and yes the cycle is a product of the bsg god (not malevolent) and that god allowed the cycle to be broken because it only inflicted the cycle because of what humanity was like and once humanity had changed the cycle was broken, how did you not get this from the show?
@JumpFirstLookLater1 Mitchondrial eve is ONE common ancestor. Not the oldest, not the most recent, and one of MILLIONS. Her relation is irrelevant, and is only interesting because a quirk of genetics makes it easier to identify.
...the show NEVER stated an intent for god. The BSG god is not even remotely consistent. We're left to assume that it put the survivors through hell (and violently murdered billions) out of whimsy. That's pretty fucking malevolent. Also, humanity didn't change. At all.
@imorriso1 you know what, i dont even care :L all i know is that i enjoyed it immensly because it was a great ending, if you dont understand that, then fine, its your loss
@imorriso1 and so just because you are on a different planet their lifespan dropped but 70 years? get a grip and there was plenty of food so starvation is out of the question and malaria is a disease that the colonials would have picked up from earth, so even if they had medicine they would still have to develop a cure for it which would take a while, plus how do we know a modern day virus like malaria had even mutated into a harmful virus?
Oh, for fucks sake, recognize rhetorical devices when you see them. Have you READ about the stone age? It WASN'T COOL. Life was brutish and short, and only someone morally bankrupt would choose it for their children over modern society.
This song lights a fire within my soul screaming at my brain to send an e-mail to the creator of BS:G to think of more episodes and bring back the who freaking show. I will now step away from the keyboard and contemplate.
LiveTillItHurts97 1 month ago
In case anybody missed this, the "imaginary" Six and Baltar were Angels.The real Six and Baltar lived out their lives and upon dying entered the spirit world where time and space have absolutely no meaning.Thats why Baltar could never lie to his "imaginary" Six. THIS HAS ALL HAPPENED BEFORE.. She had been there and knew him inside and out. The writer(s) reveal this in the last episode showing the two Angels on Earth in the modern day.
JihadAeon 3 months ago
@JihadAeon uh yeah, deus ex machina
nehorlavazapalka 3 months ago
The inhibition has been lifted.
nekovelo 8 months ago
favorite song in the entire series. This scene was insane and one of the best dogfight scenes in the series.
Shadow7988 1 year ago
love it i can just picture the Cylon civil war and them blowing each other out into space with nukes and the vipers and heavy raiders shooting down the other teams raiders and then the vipers firing the nukes attached to their wing........love it
onwardparasites 2 years ago
This is my absolute favourite track in the entire series. Very haunting, solemn and powerful!
bad4ever2001 2 years ago 2
The season 4 music is really a step above the music for the first three. Too bad the ending for the series didn't do it any justice at all. :(
This track in particular has a really nice melody. Very powerful.
imorriso1 2 years ago 5
@imorriso1 I actually think the soundtrack for season 2 was the best. Season 3 was good, and had some fantastic tracks like "Battlestar sonatica" but overall wasn't as good. I didn't really care for the shift in musical style for season 3 and 4.
Erghest 1 year ago
@Erghest Season 3 has my two favourite BSG tracks (Precipice and the music for the attack on New Caprica), and Season 4 has "Kara Remembers", so I have trouble faulting them!
That said, I think I have to agree with you that I liked the style of the earlier tracks better, even if McCreary's work was really hitting its stride in the last two seasons.
imorriso1 1 year ago
@imorriso1 how did the ending not do it justice?
JumpFirstLookLater1 4 months ago
@JumpFirstLookLater1 I'd start with "it was a contrived deus ex machina that ended in the absurd suicide of the entire human race" and work my way up from there. It demonstrated that the writers were pulling everything out of their asses for the last two seasons and that all indications that they knew where the hell they were going were just smoke and mirrors. It pretty much killed the franchise for me.
imorriso1 4 months ago
@imorriso1 the human race did not commit suicide though so there is a large flaw in your argument and that could be said about every show, there are almost always flaws that indicate that, it is not uncommon
JumpFirstLookLater1 4 months ago
@JumpFirstLookLater1 Yes they DID. They threw out all their medicine and education so that their children could die of starvation and malaria, and canonically only Hera contributed any DNA whatsover to the future of humanity. They launched their entire civilisation into the sun because Apollo went batty and had a hippy moment.
imorriso1 4 months ago
@imorriso1 they cant throw away education, they threw away their technology and there was plenty of food on earth, how do you think the human race survived and its all part of nature, and actually hera was mitochondrial eve, that means she is the oldest common ancestor to everyone, that means that every human gained genes from hera not she was the only one that contributed. and they did that because they all wanted a fresh start without the technology that caused their downfall
JumpFirstLookLater1 4 months ago
@JumpFirstLookLater1
That isn't what "mitochondrial eve" means. The humans that survived weren't the colonials, they were native: the colonial culture is dead, and all that remains of them is a largely inconsequential contribution to the human genetic code. The colonials committed cultural suicide.
Their tech didn't cause their downfall, their prejudices did. They had a chance to break the cycle, and they chose to wipe their hands of it and let their descendants make the same mistakes.
imorriso1 4 months ago
@imorriso1 then what does mitochondrial eve mean? they were a mix of the colonials and the native population and the humans shown later are exactly like the colonials, that will be because the colonials had superior dna to the natives so natural selection chose that dna, and ofcourse they did, because their culture was filled with death and destruction their culture caused their downfall
cylons = their tech so yes it did and that is only implied
JumpFirstLookLater1 4 months ago
So one technology that goes bad--because it's managed badly--is valid justification for starting over from scratch? There wasn't anything inherently bad about their artifical intelligence tech. Cylons only rebelled against them because they insisted on enslaving them. And their ships? Their medicine? That's the only reason they weren't all dead in the first episode!
Condemning their children to the stone age was an idiotic, immoral decision that only was made because of author fiat.
imorriso1 4 months ago
@imorriso1 you still didnt answer about eve
and it had happened before, that was said, it was also said that it would happen again if they didnt break the cycle, so thats what they did, break the cycle. yes it was but if they did not have technology then they wouldnt need all that in the first episode
it was not, it was allowing their children to live instead of be subject to a cycle of death and destruction
JumpFirstLookLater1 4 months ago
@JumpFirstLookLater1
For gods sake just wikipedia it. Mitochondrial eve is nothing special.
And they didn't break the cycle. The angels said as much. The "cycle" was a product of BSG's malevolent god, not an inevitable result of their technology. The cycle continues as long as god says so, and the colonials didn't do a damned thing about it by offing themselves.
Oh, so instead their children get to die of malaria, starvation, or, if they're lucky, old age at 30. How benevolent of them.
imorriso1 4 months ago
@imorriso1 i seriously beg to differ, mitochondrial eve is humanities common ancestor, that means that every human has genes from mitochondrial eve and we are all related to her
and yes the cycle is a product of the bsg god (not malevolent) and that god allowed the cycle to be broken because it only inflicted the cycle because of what humanity was like and once humanity had changed the cycle was broken, how did you not get this from the show?
JumpFirstLookLater1 4 months ago
@JumpFirstLookLater1 Mitchondrial eve is ONE common ancestor. Not the oldest, not the most recent, and one of MILLIONS. Her relation is irrelevant, and is only interesting because a quirk of genetics makes it easier to identify.
...the show NEVER stated an intent for god. The BSG god is not even remotely consistent. We're left to assume that it put the survivors through hell (and violently murdered billions) out of whimsy. That's pretty fucking malevolent. Also, humanity didn't change. At all.
imorriso1 4 months ago
@imorriso1 you know what, i dont even care :L all i know is that i enjoyed it immensly because it was a great ending, if you dont understand that, then fine, its your loss
JumpFirstLookLater1 4 months ago
@imorriso1 and so just because you are on a different planet their lifespan dropped but 70 years? get a grip and there was plenty of food so starvation is out of the question and malaria is a disease that the colonials would have picked up from earth, so even if they had medicine they would still have to develop a cure for it which would take a while, plus how do we know a modern day virus like malaria had even mutated into a harmful virus?
JumpFirstLookLater1 4 months ago
@JumpFirstLookLater1
Oh, for fucks sake, recognize rhetorical devices when you see them. Have you READ about the stone age? It WASN'T COOL. Life was brutish and short, and only someone morally bankrupt would choose it for their children over modern society.
imorriso1 4 months ago