The MWAVE was actually a DSP based card (hence the modem capability; stepping down and so forth) and its DSP (though a better revision) was also used in the last rendition of the Gravis Ultrasound series.
The second card is a Protac Sound SC801 sound card. It was one of the SB/Windows Sound System compatible cards (ie really shit) and I'm pretty sure it was sold under other brands too. Circa mid 90s.
I remember the Matrox video card. I tried to play Destruction Derby II without it, and it wouldn't load *ouch*. All these car games of the late 90s bring back fond memories.
I removed the metal trim from a modem expansion card, and I used it as a body ground link to mount a taillamp to a bicycle with a 12 volt negative ground system, and to be specific, I used a flame-shaped LED ornament you plug into a cigarette lighter 12 volt outlet, and I did some special wiring trick to convert it to a permanent but fashionable taillamp for a bicycle.
If it's an MSX2, try to play some FireHawk Thexder II on it! The BEST version is the MSX2 version. Regrettably, it is a japan only version as well, but I am aware of an English patch online. One of them is free, the other is not.
If you can get all of that together, then you would have yourself a real gem.
hey phreakindee, do you have a spare AGP video card you can send me? i really need one. :) if not, then thats okay. ^^ im trying to break into the PC gaming scene. lol have you ever played Lameduke? :] its the beta of Duke Nukem 3D.
@phreakindee Matrox Millennium could have a daughterboard called the Rainbow Runner added to it - a video capture card that would handle composite or S-Video and work with the likes of Adobe Premiere 5.5 etc... The larger connector was for the video and stereo audio I/O. If your machine was fast enough, it could handle 768x576 PAL video and even had rudimentary real-time video effects (wipes, fades etc) which was pretty cool for a card that was reasonably cheap. Matrox Mystique could do the same
@phreakindee That first 8-bit card in the "I don't know what it is" pile - I had a Logitech mono hand scanner that had an interface board that looked a lot like that. Same connector too. You had to have a damn steady hand to use it, but it did work...
Are you positive the NV1 (EDGE 3D) was the very first commercial consumer 3D accelerator?
The S3 ViRGE and Rage both came out in 1995 too, so I guess it's just a matter of which was out earliest that year. (and both of those ended up much more common -though the original Rage/Mach64-GT seems relatively uncommon)
i had something similar to that card at 6:50 ish. never figured out what it was. the connector looks like a Mac serial port... so maybe its a LocalTalk NIC?
As for the AWE64's expansion modules, a 3rd party company in Singapore manufactures AWE64 memory add-on adapters that allow for standard 72-pin SIMMs to be used with an AWE64 or AWE64 Gold (the products are called SIMCONN and SIMCONN Gold). They work pretty well, as long as the memory is 60 ns EDO RAM (non-parity, unbuffered). Memory upgrades for these cards (even the AWE32) are worth it if you want to hear sets of high quality MIDI instruments.
The SB AWE64 sold (if I recall) in both the standard and gold editions. The connectors at the back of the card were for the SoundFont memory expansion, which, unfortunately, required Creative's proprietary memory modules (they went away from the standard 30-pin SIMMs used in the AWE32). The SB AWE64 gold is different in that it uses RCA audio outputs in the back to significantly improve the signal-to-noise ratio. Unfortunately, the memory upgrade modules are extremely rare.
But when the MWave worked, it worked great. It was easily configurable in DOS, and the modem worked pretty well. The modem, since it was part of the sound card, sent all of its tones to the computer speakers (not the PC speaker). This allowed me to turn down modem noise by simply turning down the speaker volume, making it impossible for my parents to know when I was playing a 2-player modem game (i.e.,Descent, Doom or Duke Nukem 3D) with a friend late at night (I was 15 at the time).
The IBM MWave card sold with IBM Aptivas during the mid '90s. It was SoundBlaster Pro compatible (though not SB16 compatible in my tests with most MS-DOS games). It also had an integrated 28.8 kbps fax/modem. IBM stopped supporting the MWave card around 1996, which created serious problems for early DirectX/Windows 95 games. As a result, most of us swapped the MWave for an SB16 and 56k modem. Finding drivers for the MWave will be a pain unless you have an original Aptiva recovery CD.
Although the AWE32 is awesome, it is not my favorite. In my opinion, the Yamaha DB60XG sounds far better. You can regularly find practically identical clones of them made by NEC on eBay that you can import from China for around $20, and it's truly worth it IMO.
If you do get this, make sure you do NOT use it with a Creative sound card -- they were notorious for having a major bug that makes the MPU-401 interface pretty much worthless. Any SB clone with the necessary header should work fine.
@Saiyuki2o4 What I need is a way to actually see the video output. It uses SCART, and I do not have any kind of SCART video devices. The guy sent me a SCART to RCA converter, but it only converts a few of the colors with my PAL->NTSC converter, so I end up with games that looks very weird. Otherwise, I only get black and white video output. I have a solution in mind, it's just going to require a pretty big investment in video scaling hardware.
@phreakindee Let me see if I can come up with another way to display the video. The MSX also has a dedicated monitor output, I'll check if there is a converter cable available or something.
07:00 I had an old nVidia Geforce 4 card that had one of these but it was 'VIVO' (video in, video out). I ended up having to buy the connector to make my own at the time because the only VIVO leads were in the US of A and I couldn't wait. I would agree that the card is probably some video in/out thing. Not sure about the DIP switches on the card though
That AWE32 was a monster. I have a SB32 PNP, and it's not much smaller. I've also got several Matrox cards -- a couple of Milleniums MGAs, a Mystique, and a G400. They were the 2D cards of choice to pair up with a Voodoo (due to their high-quality signals). The G400 was a good 3D card in it's own right when it came out -- comparable to a TNT2.
@MrStingray358 I miss them for nostalgic reasons only, but as far as usefulness? Good riddance. I use flash memory or networking when at all possible when using my PCs, both new and old. I still prefer to have the original media on-hand, but there's no real reason to use floppy disks to install an old game when I can just transfer it in seconds otherwise.
@phreakindee would you consider a video detailing how to network between a modern PC and an old DOS machine to transfer games and files? it seems like a daunting task to me--
So, it's very easy to hear from your end speech that
1) You are saying you _WILL_ definitely review the MSX2 for SURE and
2) Hopefully some actual reviews NEXT WEEK.
These two things put together can easily sound like (as it did to me): "If everything goes as planned, I will review the MSX2 next week", or at least "There is a definite possibility for an MSX2 review next week", etc. You might not have been consciously hinting it, but it sure is easy to get why someone would think so, isn't it?
@Gmoooba I also mentioned several other items too, not just the MSX2, so why would you think just that one thing anyway?
Besides, I always have reviews "next week". I've said the same thing in plenty of other videos. I never said anything about the next review being the MSX2 and nothing else, and if you gleaned that from my statement of saying I'll review *something*, well... Sorry.
@phreakindee Well, the MSX2 was the most interesting and large piece and focus of the video, and I also never said that you had said it will be MSX2 and nothing else (now you are doing the same thing as I probably did). I just tried to explain how such a misunderstanding could have occurred. You honestly don't think it is easy to make such a mistake from what you say in the end part? MSX2 is included 'FOR SURE' with some others, and 'ACTUAL' reviews next week = 'SYSTEM' reviews..?
@phreakindee When watching this video only once, and hearing all that only once, the image of MSX2 and 'actual reviews next week' has a way of remaining in the mind, as it is a very exciting prospect of seeing another system review from you, and I wasn't fully expecting you to review the MSX2 'next week', but I certainly was HOPING you to do so, and I figured it would be one of the items you mentioned, so the odds were high. I couldn't see why it wouldn't be the MSX2..
@phreakindee Of course it is clear that there was this misunderstanding on my part, but all I am asking is for you to admit that from what you said, it is a pretty easy misunderstanding to make. I am not accusing you of anything, I know you didn't promise anything, you have no obligation, etc. I just wish you could admit I wasn't completely out-of-the-blue and unreasonable when I made that estimate/hope/assumption. Oldskool computers are very interesting things, sound cards mundane.
@Gmoooba You appear to be taking this incredibly seriously, and I have no idea why. At least seven comments on this topic you've made... that seems very unhealthy. Just chill man, you only misunderstood something on the internet: it happens. Once a-freaking-gain, I'm sorry if you misconstrued something in a random video, but I can't help it.
TBH this is really discouraging me to want to do anything related to MSX2 at all. I still will, just throwing that out there. Merry Christmas.
@phreakindee that gmoooba is an asshurt idiot. don't let em get you down, your stuff is good b/c it's what YOU wanna do, not some self-absorbed crazy persons demands!
Phreakindee's end speech transcription the way I heard it: "If there's any of these things in particular that you would like to see me cover, let me know. Like I said, I'll be covering the Diamond Edge, The MSX2, The AWE32 for SURE. Um, the other stuff, you know, I'll be using it but I am not sure if I will make dedicated videos about it. Yeah, that's that, I think - I have gone on long enough, so thank you for watching, stay tuned for hopefully some actual REVIEWS *NEXT*WEEK*." Now do you see?
Okay, sorry to talk about this again, but what you said at the end of this video is the reason for my confusion/disappointment. It DEFINITELY sounds to me like you at least -hinted- about making an MSX2 review "next week", and later you denied saying -anything- about "next week" (which is probably already like two weeks ago). Let me try to transcribe on my next comment..
@MrCadefulp Haha yeah, with something like 1GB of memory and hundreds of channels, etc. Although it would be *really* nice if they actually attempted to put a Sound Blaster Compatibility feature on there!
This is a lot of fun! I had an SB16 a long time back, but man, a whole system with games and software! You got some good people sending you great things!
Why is it that so many people pronounce ISA phonetically as a word when in fact I S A is an acronym for International Standard Architecture? I'm not trying to diss you, I just don't understand why people do that on YouTube, you're not the only one who does it, others do it too.
Heh 4th time through watching this. Learning... You um helped me at work. I tried on your voice and personality in this video and it comes across as very confident and personable. I don't get tired of hearing this video. Crazy. I do listen to coolduder sometimes for some of the same reasons, and I don't care about what he is saying. But wow, you're even better. You know people listen to qvc and other things like that just to unwind right? You are qvc squared...
@phreakindee The CD-Rom controller cards are so hard to get now. You have no idea how hard it is to get one. You can't put an ide cd-rom in an old system like a 286 that uses winchester drives or older. I've been trying to get one for my 286 for ages.
Those IBM MWave cards are VERY interesting. Their controlled entirely by an onboard programmable DSP, people have made a good bit of homebrew programs that use it and accelerate basic things like JPEG decoding.
how can mod a nentedo sound card to midi controler (no clue what sound cards do and under stand lil of what you say) i would like make midi key bord with nentendo sound card then hook it up to my dj gear ;D
Awesome video dude. Thanks to you I'm learning a lot about "old-ware". It's great to know about these things! Don't know anything about "modern-ware" though, should probably suscribe to some channel that talks about newer software but I just don't care.
That AWE32 makes me go O_O. That thing's massive! Wonder if it's as big as my Ensoniq Soundscape.
I'm actually looking for one of those. The closest I have is a SoundBlaster 32 PnP CT3600 which is good, but it doesn't have OPL3 like your AWE32. It instead has CQM like the AWE64 CT4520 and SoundBlaster 16 CT2940s you got. It doesn't sound like true OPL3. I personally don't care for SoundBlasters that have CQM even though the first SoundBlaster I owned was an AWE64 CT4500 and that has CQM.
@symonglorian I've actually gotten at least as many, if not more, requests for videos of hardware than I have for games. So that's fine if you don't want hardware videos, but a ton of people do, and I enjoy making them so that's that.
@phreakindee I think his comment was based on the name: "Lazy Game Reviews", which to him seems to dictate that you shouldn't review anything else.
Btw, I think your name "Phreakindee" might be the cause why youtube is acting so weird when you are concerned.. Phreaking is a blacklisted word for many companies, because it has allowed poor people to get things for free that corporations would love to have charged them for.
@AlfredRusselWallace That he is. What's interesting is his channel was one of the early inspirations for mine, so it's neat to see things come full circle. Thumbs up for Jake!
Not useful or interesting, but just thought I'd mention that the two Cirrus Logic cards look to have been made by Pine Technologies (I spotted the PTxxxx screen printing on the cards). Back in my early PC years, some colleagues bought ex-work PCs and monitors that were very low-spec. The monitors would only do 640x480, but I found that they'd go to 800x600 with CL-chip cards, so bought a couple of them cheap from a computer fair. Now, of course, you can hardly give away decent CRT monitors...
@Shiqna1 Bit of an Otaku aren't you? I would only learn Japanese for MSX. Honestly, I'd rather learn Dutch. Dutch people are awesome. I honestly find Japanese characters to be like hieroglyphics to me, I can't understand them in any form. And the Romanized writing isn't much better. I'm not really a huge Anime fan. All of the Anime I do like, such as Akira and Cowboy Bebop, is in English.
"Oh Sh-it" on the MSX is a pacman clone that I only got to run once, ever. Its name is based on the phrase that the little pac-dude outs when the bad guys get too close for comfort.
Also, now I understand why there were a shedload of Saturn to PC conversions released back in the 90s, thanks for the info on that. Looking forward to further videos on pretty much anything you showed here; hot damn Japanese game packaging is superior!
Regarding color-coding, what if you have to hook up some jacks to the back of a computer which you can't really move out of its place, let alone read the labels for each port? Those colors have been a tremendous help for me throughout the years.
Is it pronounced "Aye Double-u Eee" and not just "Awww", like in "awesome"? Don't know, I'm not in an English-speaking country, but always thought so.
Nice cards, used to have a SB AWE32 with 2 megs of RAM, you could play modules with hardware support in Linux, that was something back then. Used to own a GUS 512k too before that, that really was a legendary card.
I like this old stuff, but I dont want to keep any of it around anymore, as it's just taking up space and power, so thanks for sharing yours :) Although I want to yell out everytime you hold the cards from their golden connectors, causing oxidization of the impurities in our fingers.
The NV1's similarities with the SEGA SATURN lied in the fact that they both used quads instead of triangles to make up their polygon engines. Back then there was no concrete standard for 3D and companies were each experimenting with their own implementations, much as it happens today with things like physics. The Saturn ports of games such as Panzer Dragoon for the NV1 are quite rare from what I hear.
Any major differences between the AWE32 and the AWE64? Doom's setup has "Sound Blaster AWE" on the device list, so seeing it in action would be pretty sweet.
That first strange card is for macintosh periferals. either that or they stole Apple's connector layout. I do know they once made an apple II ISA card for using Apple software on old 8086 and early 286 machines. so it could go with one of those.
That ISA audio card looked like a sound blaster 2.0, It looked like it also had spots for the CMS chips plus that other chip creative left out from the game blaster on the SB 2.0.
the PC ISA card that has what looks like a Svideo output on it is a bus mouse card which they used on the early XT and 80286 machines for mouse support under dos
8-pin DIN card could be a rare later Apple Localtalk interface card, but those mostly had the older DB9 port on them. A Zilog 8530 is usually a dead giveaway on those, at least the eariler ones.
The 2nd unknown card screams Soundblaster 2.0 clone card to me, the missing chips are likely for CMS support. If there is an FCC ID on these mystery cards, run it and see what comes up!
I had the Orchid Righteous 3D card, notable since it was the first retail VooDoo 1 board on the market.
From an electronics POV that card you didn't know what it did seems pretty basic/old school? With the two MOFSET transistors on the far right and the capacitor array one would presume there's a large amount of power going through it, maybe one of the first serial links, that somebody's modified to give an s-video output?
Don't feel stupid for calling the stupid Trident card stupid. Because it really is... quite stupid. Seriously, the performance is HORRIBLE! Need to find another card for my 486. So that using it... won't suck. Screen draws at a snails pace. Wouldn't recommend bothering to install it.
Scart adapters come in a couple of variants catering for input and output or switchable. Mind you there is a Japanese video connector that looks like a scart connector but it is not. This Euro scart connector probably will do proper composite video out. Your set needs to be able to handle 50hz PAL though...
The MWAVE was actually a DSP based card (hence the modem capability; stepping down and so forth) and its DSP (though a better revision) was also used in the last rendition of the Gravis Ultrasound series.
zembryoz 8 hours ago in playlist Uploaded videos
The second SB16 is the SB16 ASP minus the ASP chip (the empty square chip socket).
zembryoz 8 hours ago in playlist Uploaded videos
The second card is a Protac Sound SC801 sound card. It was one of the SB/Windows Sound System compatible cards (ie really shit) and I'm pretty sure it was sold under other brands too. Circa mid 90s.
zembryoz 8 hours ago in playlist Uploaded videos
The first card from the unidentified pile is probably a logitech or similar trackball controller interface card.
zembryoz 9 hours ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Perhaps you could put them in a linux (or BSD) machine and see what kind of stuff pops up.
teknifix 6 days ago
Is that a port for an AT keyboard?
teknifix 6 days ago
Got that Sony Cd-Rom working in a P133 ....
seeindarkness 1 week ago in playlist LGR Hardware Reviews
I remember the Matrox video card. I tried to play Destruction Derby II without it, and it wouldn't load *ouch*. All these car games of the late 90s bring back fond memories.
SamuraiClinton 1 week ago
Hey, dude...
I removed the metal trim from a modem expansion card, and I used it as a body ground link to mount a taillamp to a bicycle with a 12 volt negative ground system, and to be specific, I used a flame-shaped LED ornament you plug into a cigarette lighter 12 volt outlet, and I did some special wiring trick to convert it to a permanent but fashionable taillamp for a bicycle.
SamuraiClinton 1 week ago
If it's an MSX2, try to play some FireHawk Thexder II on it! The BEST version is the MSX2 version. Regrettably, it is a japan only version as well, but I am aware of an English patch online. One of them is free, the other is not.
If you can get all of that together, then you would have yourself a real gem.
lazermunky25 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
hey phreakindee, do you have a spare AGP video card you can send me? i really need one. :) if not, then thats okay. ^^ im trying to break into the PC gaming scene. lol have you ever played Lameduke? :] its the beta of Duke Nukem 3D.
Saiyuki2o4 2 weeks ago
@phreakindee Matrox Millennium could have a daughterboard called the Rainbow Runner added to it - a video capture card that would handle composite or S-Video and work with the likes of Adobe Premiere 5.5 etc... The larger connector was for the video and stereo audio I/O. If your machine was fast enough, it could handle 768x576 PAL video and even had rudimentary real-time video effects (wipes, fades etc) which was pretty cool for a card that was reasonably cheap. Matrox Mystique could do the same
disgruntledgoat 2 weeks ago
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@phreakindee That first 8-bit card in the "I don't know what it is" pile - I had a Logitech mono hand scanner that had an interface board that looked a lot like that. Same connector too. You had to have a damn steady hand to use it, but it did work...
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disgruntledgoat 2 weeks ago
Are you positive the NV1 (EDGE 3D) was the very first commercial consumer 3D accelerator?
The S3 ViRGE and Rage both came out in 1995 too, so I guess it's just a matter of which was out earliest that year. (and both of those ended up much more common -though the original Rage/Mach64-GT seems relatively uncommon)
koolkitty8989 2 weeks ago
i had something similar to that card at 6:50 ish. never figured out what it was. the connector looks like a Mac serial port... so maybe its a LocalTalk NIC?
justwolfslife 3 weeks ago
The card @ 6:28. Midi interface perhaps?
gartbull 3 weeks ago
@gartbull I _think_ it's an interface card for a handheld scanner.
fletto666 1 week ago
I had the SB-AWE-32 . And MSX RULES !!!
rickonami 3 weeks ago
The Matrox Mystique card had a daughterboard that did MJPEG video capture. The video capture leads plugged into that long 27 pin connector.
Then you could fill your piddly small 4GB HDD with a few minutes of video and realise your P166MMX machine was too slow do do anything with it :-)
pikuorguk 1 month ago
rage cards are incredibly common in new servers even today :)
rsnilssen 1 month ago in playlist LGR Hardware Reviews
the card at 6:28 maybe it has someing to do with a macintosh keyboard and mouse?
charger334 1 month ago
Dude, phreakindee i got some old cards if ya want any, email me at mkjudo101@gmail.com thx
RubySownGmaing 1 month ago
3 people must have been stupid or ignorant, not knowing how to hook up a sound card.
IamFat32 1 month ago
As for the AWE64's expansion modules, a 3rd party company in Singapore manufactures AWE64 memory add-on adapters that allow for standard 72-pin SIMMs to be used with an AWE64 or AWE64 Gold (the products are called SIMCONN and SIMCONN Gold). They work pretty well, as long as the memory is 60 ns EDO RAM (non-parity, unbuffered). Memory upgrades for these cards (even the AWE32) are worth it if you want to hear sets of high quality MIDI instruments.
AIM9XSW 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
The SB AWE64 sold (if I recall) in both the standard and gold editions. The connectors at the back of the card were for the SoundFont memory expansion, which, unfortunately, required Creative's proprietary memory modules (they went away from the standard 30-pin SIMMs used in the AWE32). The SB AWE64 gold is different in that it uses RCA audio outputs in the back to significantly improve the signal-to-noise ratio. Unfortunately, the memory upgrade modules are extremely rare.
AIM9XSW 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
But when the MWave worked, it worked great. It was easily configurable in DOS, and the modem worked pretty well. The modem, since it was part of the sound card, sent all of its tones to the computer speakers (not the PC speaker). This allowed me to turn down modem noise by simply turning down the speaker volume, making it impossible for my parents to know when I was playing a 2-player modem game (i.e.,Descent, Doom or Duke Nukem 3D) with a friend late at night (I was 15 at the time).
AIM9XSW 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
The IBM MWave card sold with IBM Aptivas during the mid '90s. It was SoundBlaster Pro compatible (though not SB16 compatible in my tests with most MS-DOS games). It also had an integrated 28.8 kbps fax/modem. IBM stopped supporting the MWave card around 1996, which created serious problems for early DirectX/Windows 95 games. As a result, most of us swapped the MWave for an SB16 and 56k modem. Finding drivers for the MWave will be a pain unless you have an original Aptiva recovery CD.
AIM9XSW 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
30 dollars for a couple of capacitors?! (Great video!)
ioctlvoid 1 month ago
I had one of those gravis gamepad. *---*
This video just got me on childhood nostalgia.
You got a subscriber!!!
bielcouto 1 month ago
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bielcouto 1 month ago
YEEEEEAH. AWE32
xdeadstarpsyclonx 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
6:55 I could be wrong, but I believe that's a Bus port for a Bus type mouse, or some sort of proprietary Mouse interface.
maddmaxstar 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Although the AWE32 is awesome, it is not my favorite. In my opinion, the Yamaha DB60XG sounds far better. You can regularly find practically identical clones of them made by NEC on eBay that you can import from China for around $20, and it's truly worth it IMO.
If you do get this, make sure you do NOT use it with a Creative sound card -- they were notorious for having a major bug that makes the MPU-401 interface pretty much worthless. Any SB clone with the necessary header should work fine.
someperson42 2 months ago
Yes! You finally got a MSX!
MrCadefulp 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@MrCadefulp Though i should mention i prefer the Japanese MSX computers. They run at full speed and since they're NTSC, easier to plug in.
MrCadefulp 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@MrCadefulp Yes, finally! It should make for some awesome video content in the (hopefully) near future. Lots of cool games.
phreakindee 2 months ago
@phreakindee Let me tell you that if you every find Konami games for it, get them. They're arguably some of the finest games on the platform.
MrCadefulp 2 months ago
9:45 i swear i saw that damn thing on ebay one day and i have a pci card that looks about the same as it.
jr540123 2 months ago
idk why, but theres a really ominous silence when your showing off your MSX. its kinda scary. lol
Saiyuki2o4 2 months ago
hey phreakindee, are you going to get metal gear for your MSX and does it work? have you hooked it up? :D
Saiyuki2o4 2 months ago
@Saiyuki2o4 I don't have any way to actually hook it up properly yet, but when I do I'll be showing some stuff here!
phreakindee 2 months ago
@phreakindee ah, i see. what do you need? : ) also i noticed it has an ACSI port.
Saiyuki2o4 2 months ago
@Saiyuki2o4 What I need is a way to actually see the video output. It uses SCART, and I do not have any kind of SCART video devices. The guy sent me a SCART to RCA converter, but it only converts a few of the colors with my PAL->NTSC converter, so I end up with games that looks very weird. Otherwise, I only get black and white video output. I have a solution in mind, it's just going to require a pretty big investment in video scaling hardware.
phreakindee 1 month ago
@phreakindee that investment sounds expensive Phreakindee.
Saiyuki2o4 1 month ago
@phreakindee Let me see if I can come up with another way to display the video. The MSX also has a dedicated monitor output, I'll check if there is a converter cable available or something.
Carambal81 1 month ago
Nut's And Milk was a puzzle game by Hudson Soft. It was also released on the nes only in Japan. Ps. Please reply
thepirategamerboy12 2 months ago
That Sanyo nec Was Tv Card For Tv Connection To PC
jamestrify 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
07:00 I had an old nVidia Geforce 4 card that had one of these but it was 'VIVO' (video in, video out). I ended up having to buy the connector to make my own at the time because the only VIVO leads were in the US of A and I couldn't wait. I would agree that the card is probably some video in/out thing. Not sure about the DIP switches on the card though
jayc2469 2 months ago
That AWE32 was a monster. I have a SB32 PNP, and it's not much smaller. I've also got several Matrox cards -- a couple of Milleniums MGAs, a Mystique, and a G400. They were the 2D cards of choice to pair up with a Voodoo (due to their high-quality signals). The G400 was a good 3D card in it's own right when it came out -- comparable to a TNT2.
OneEyedJack1970 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Nice collection!
Here's some of the vintage stuff I have:
3DFX Voodoo 3 2000 PCI 32mb
3DFX Voodoo 5 5500 AGP 64mb
Creative Sound Blaster 16-bit
Creative Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold with RCA-jacks!
2 Voodoo 2 Sli Cards 16mb each with sli cable.
They all work perfectly. :)
LellePrinter82 2 months ago
Just out of curiosity phreakindee, do you at all miss floppy disks, or do you say good riddance to them?
MrStingray358 2 months ago
@MrStingray358 I miss them for nostalgic reasons only, but as far as usefulness? Good riddance. I use flash memory or networking when at all possible when using my PCs, both new and old. I still prefer to have the original media on-hand, but there's no real reason to use floppy disks to install an old game when I can just transfer it in seconds otherwise.
phreakindee 2 months ago 2
@phreakindee would you consider a video detailing how to network between a modern PC and an old DOS machine to transfer games and files? it seems like a daunting task to me--
TheSwillMan 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@TheSwillMan I'll certainly consider it, it's a lot easier than it sounds :)
phreakindee 2 months ago
So, it's very easy to hear from your end speech that
1) You are saying you _WILL_ definitely review the MSX2 for SURE and
2) Hopefully some actual reviews NEXT WEEK.
These two things put together can easily sound like (as it did to me): "If everything goes as planned, I will review the MSX2 next week", or at least "There is a definite possibility for an MSX2 review next week", etc. You might not have been consciously hinting it, but it sure is easy to get why someone would think so, isn't it?
Gmoooba 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Gmoooba I also mentioned several other items too, not just the MSX2, so why would you think just that one thing anyway?
Besides, I always have reviews "next week". I've said the same thing in plenty of other videos. I never said anything about the next review being the MSX2 and nothing else, and if you gleaned that from my statement of saying I'll review *something*, well... Sorry.
phreakindee 2 months ago
@phreakindee Well, the MSX2 was the most interesting and large piece and focus of the video, and I also never said that you had said it will be MSX2 and nothing else (now you are doing the same thing as I probably did). I just tried to explain how such a misunderstanding could have occurred. You honestly don't think it is easy to make such a mistake from what you say in the end part? MSX2 is included 'FOR SURE' with some others, and 'ACTUAL' reviews next week = 'SYSTEM' reviews..?
Gmoooba 2 months ago
@phreakindee When watching this video only once, and hearing all that only once, the image of MSX2 and 'actual reviews next week' has a way of remaining in the mind, as it is a very exciting prospect of seeing another system review from you, and I wasn't fully expecting you to review the MSX2 'next week', but I certainly was HOPING you to do so, and I figured it would be one of the items you mentioned, so the odds were high. I couldn't see why it wouldn't be the MSX2..
Gmoooba 2 months ago
@phreakindee Of course it is clear that there was this misunderstanding on my part, but all I am asking is for you to admit that from what you said, it is a pretty easy misunderstanding to make. I am not accusing you of anything, I know you didn't promise anything, you have no obligation, etc. I just wish you could admit I wasn't completely out-of-the-blue and unreasonable when I made that estimate/hope/assumption. Oldskool computers are very interesting things, sound cards mundane.
Gmoooba 2 months ago
@Gmoooba You appear to be taking this incredibly seriously, and I have no idea why. At least seven comments on this topic you've made... that seems very unhealthy. Just chill man, you only misunderstood something on the internet: it happens. Once a-freaking-gain, I'm sorry if you misconstrued something in a random video, but I can't help it.
TBH this is really discouraging me to want to do anything related to MSX2 at all. I still will, just throwing that out there. Merry Christmas.
phreakindee 2 months ago 3
@phreakindee that gmoooba is an asshurt idiot. don't let em get you down, your stuff is good b/c it's what YOU wanna do, not some self-absorbed crazy persons demands!
TheManidunno 2 months ago 5
Phreakindee's end speech transcription the way I heard it: "If there's any of these things in particular that you would like to see me cover, let me know. Like I said, I'll be covering the Diamond Edge, The MSX2, The AWE32 for SURE. Um, the other stuff, you know, I'll be using it but I am not sure if I will make dedicated videos about it. Yeah, that's that, I think - I have gone on long enough, so thank you for watching, stay tuned for hopefully some actual REVIEWS *NEXT*WEEK*." Now do you see?
Gmoooba 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Okay, sorry to talk about this again, but what you said at the end of this video is the reason for my confusion/disappointment. It DEFINITELY sounds to me like you at least -hinted- about making an MSX2 review "next week", and later you denied saying -anything- about "next week" (which is probably already like two weeks ago). Let me try to transcribe on my next comment..
Gmoooba 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I had forgotten how huge sound cards were back in the day. Actually, I had forgotten how huge all the internals for the PCs were.
maddog015 2 months ago
@maddog015 Have you checked out those latest Creative Cards? They are just as big...
initvesa 2 months ago
@initvesa The funniest thing is that nowadays they're still huge yet practically unrequired by the average user.
MrCadefulp 2 months ago
@MrCadefulp Haha yeah, with something like 1GB of memory and hundreds of channels, etc. Although it would be *really* nice if they actually attempted to put a Sound Blaster Compatibility feature on there!
initvesa 1 month ago
On the sound card, get the capacitor on the right side of the card replaced.
somorastik 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
is there a screen for the MSX or what lol
mason123z 2 months ago
@mason123z Like most home microcomputers back then, you just hook it up to your TV! Simple, and cost-effective.
phreakindee 2 months ago
You can message me about these cards. I have used most of them over the years.
tomperanteau 2 months ago
This is a lot of fun! I had an SB16 a long time back, but man, a whole system with games and software! You got some good people sending you great things!
theshep 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Could you do a review of Voodoo2 in SLI mode? I always wanted to see it working but never got around to build a pc with two of them
LKRaider 2 months ago
Why is it that so many people pronounce ISA phonetically as a word when in fact I S A is an acronym for International Standard Architecture? I'm not trying to diss you, I just don't understand why people do that on YouTube, you're not the only one who does it, others do it too.
Lachlant1984 2 months ago
Heh 4th time through watching this. Learning... You um helped me at work. I tried on your voice and personality in this video and it comes across as very confident and personable. I don't get tired of hearing this video. Crazy. I do listen to coolduder sometimes for some of the same reasons, and I don't care about what he is saying. But wow, you're even better. You know people listen to qvc and other things like that just to unwind right? You are qvc squared...
waterwixxxer 3 months ago
@waterwixxxer Ha. "Phreakindee - QVC Squared" has an odd ring to it.
phreakindee 3 months ago 3
That one disliker is DUMB!
lesliegarrett 3 months ago 14
I care not at all about what you are saying. I really enjoy the way you have said it.
waterwixxxer 3 months ago
Do you read narrate audiobooks? If so which ones have you done?
waterwixxxer 3 months ago
I think im in love with your voice over skills
LlamaDaisy 3 months ago
Regarding the unknown ISA card with the s-video port: I saw cards looking like this used for several different usages:
- scan interface (propriatary of course)
- ms mouse interface
joehack 3 months ago
@Shiqna1 Hehe, my choice of words was not so careful. Anyway, you know what I mean :)
BecomingTheChange 3 months ago
@phreakindee The CD-Rom controller cards are so hard to get now. You have no idea how hard it is to get one. You can't put an ide cd-rom in an old system like a 286 that uses winchester drives or older. I've been trying to get one for my 286 for ages.
ASSEMblerEX 3 months ago
You could tile your wall with all of those cards.
lemonrind 3 months ago
and what a sound card or divice that would realy bring back (thos days)
djsinmagic 3 months ago
Those IBM MWave cards are VERY interesting. Their controlled entirely by an onboard programmable DSP, people have made a good bit of homebrew programs that use it and accelerate basic things like JPEG decoding.
Dant2142 3 months ago
how can mod a nentedo sound card to midi controler (no clue what sound cards do and under stand lil of what you say) i would like make midi key bord with nentendo sound card then hook it up to my dj gear ;D
djsinmagic 3 months ago
@phreakindee Does diamond still make good cards?
BobTheBuilder20247 3 months ago
That one board may out of an arcade machine
kidd912thomas 3 months ago
25:27 That translates to "the big peeks, pokes and tricks book" if it may help you sometime :) ... probably isn't so hard to figure it out.
janmansde3dede 3 months ago
Awesome video dude. Thanks to you I'm learning a lot about "old-ware". It's great to know about these things! Don't know anything about "modern-ware" though, should probably suscribe to some channel that talks about newer software but I just don't care.
svenneri 3 months ago
Sometimes if you hook them up in a linux machine you can dmesg/lspci it and see.
worldgate989 3 months ago
good vid really enjoy your hardware reviews
pcfaulkner 3 months ago
That AWE32 makes me go O_O. That thing's massive! Wonder if it's as big as my Ensoniq Soundscape.
I'm actually looking for one of those. The closest I have is a SoundBlaster 32 PnP CT3600 which is good, but it doesn't have OPL3 like your AWE32. It instead has CQM like the AWE64 CT4520 and SoundBlaster 16 CT2940s you got. It doesn't sound like true OPL3. I personally don't care for SoundBlasters that have CQM even though the first SoundBlaster I owned was an AWE64 CT4500 and that has CQM.
Ace9921 3 months ago
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Dude.. keep doing GAME reviews, sincerly, Everyone
symonglorian 3 months ago
@symonglorian I've actually gotten at least as many, if not more, requests for videos of hardware than I have for games. So that's fine if you don't want hardware videos, but a ton of people do, and I enjoy making them so that's that.
phreakindee 3 months ago 28
@phreakindee keep doing your stuff. the guy above is...
drizzleinc 3 months ago
@phreakindee 3:00 are thoose rare theres one at the local flea market for $5
jacobhalomac 3 months ago
@phreakindee I think his comment was based on the name: "Lazy Game Reviews", which to him seems to dictate that you shouldn't review anything else.
Btw, I think your name "Phreakindee" might be the cause why youtube is acting so weird when you are concerned.. Phreaking is a blacklisted word for many companies, because it has allowed poor people to get things for free that corporations would love to have charged them for.
Gmoooba 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@symonglorian If you don't like it don't watch it. That's a better idea rather than bitching to him about it.
BobTheBuilder20247 3 months ago
@symonglorian STFU, sincerely everyone else
ASSEMblerEX 3 months ago
@ASSEMblerEX Watch out we have got a gayass over here
symonglorian 3 months ago
@symonglorian Your 1 dislike vs 268 likes.. you are the 1% (actually less.)
techguruuk 3 months ago
25:40 gradius ?
hiufung 3 months ago
Wow, I've never seen the Quarantine or Electro-man box, until now! Awesome.
TobopProductions 3 months ago
Hope you new minecraft vid,, will come out soon! :DDDD
Since the full game is out :}
tv77355 3 months ago
The way you talk in the first 30 seconds of the video reminds me of robot chickens William Shatner impersonation lmfao 5 stars
Doctaphil64 3 months ago
Wtf this JUST NOW showed up in my sub box... ugh!
Evansmustard 3 months ago
That unknown card with mini-din output may be a controller card for hand-held scanners
TheWilliamMacau 3 months ago
I like how you show off your new things and you don't even try them yet, as if sharing your joy of nostalgia with some friends just as you got them.
G9King 3 months ago
Can I *Like* a phreakingdee tech video before even watching it just because he always does them so informative and awesome? Can I? =D
G9King 3 months ago
lol hmmm I have a Diamond FireGL1000 pci in my stash, I rembered using it as a temporary replacement to my dead geforce agp card in 2003.
kinmanyuen 3 months ago
MN12BIRD is really an awesome dude for sending you all that. Hes a great part of the retro gaming community here on youtube
AlfredRusselWallace 3 months ago
@AlfredRusselWallace That he is. What's interesting is his channel was one of the early inspirations for mine, so it's neat to see things come full circle. Thumbs up for Jake!
phreakindee 3 months ago 8
@phreakindee Same here. MN12BIRD was one of the first retro gaming channels I ever watched.
TeamRocketReviews 3 months ago
Not useful or interesting, but just thought I'd mention that the two Cirrus Logic cards look to have been made by Pine Technologies (I spotted the PTxxxx screen printing on the cards). Back in my early PC years, some colleagues bought ex-work PCs and monitors that were very low-spec. The monitors would only do 640x480, but I found that they'd go to 800x600 with CL-chip cards, so bought a couple of them cheap from a computer fair. Now, of course, you can hardly give away decent CRT monitors...
MarkTheMorose 3 months ago
I want to build an AT class 286 MS-DOS PC clone. What do I buy?
TeamRocketReviews 3 months ago
@Shiqna1 Bit of an Otaku aren't you? I would only learn Japanese for MSX. Honestly, I'd rather learn Dutch. Dutch people are awesome. I honestly find Japanese characters to be like hieroglyphics to me, I can't understand them in any form. And the Romanized writing isn't much better. I'm not really a huge Anime fan. All of the Anime I do like, such as Akira and Cowboy Bebop, is in English.
TeamRocketReviews 3 months ago
I'm going to change my name to Jap for some reason.
TeamRocketReviews 3 months ago
"Oh Sh-it" on the MSX is a pacman clone that I only got to run once, ever. Its name is based on the phrase that the little pac-dude outs when the bad guys get too close for comfort.
cashmango 3 months ago
Also, now I understand why there were a shedload of Saturn to PC conversions released back in the 90s, thanks for the info on that. Looking forward to further videos on pretty much anything you showed here; hot damn Japanese game packaging is superior!
MagikGimp 3 months ago
I had a gum card in my first PC too, they really are useless.
MagikGimp 3 months ago
10:10 " i'm not calling people stupid, I'm just calling them ignorant "
now that would make a really good t-shirt phrase
serginietor 3 months ago
Regarding color-coding, what if you have to hook up some jacks to the back of a computer which you can't really move out of its place, let alone read the labels for each port? Those colors have been a tremendous help for me throughout the years.
Anyway, great vid. Like being in a candy store.
Fuzzy192006 3 months ago
Is it pronounced "Aye Double-u Eee" and not just "Awww", like in "awesome"? Don't know, I'm not in an English-speaking country, but always thought so.
BachiloDmitry 3 months ago
@BachiloDmitry I've heard it pronounced both ways, I'm not sure if there is a "correct" way to be honest.
phreakindee 3 months ago
@phreakindee I had a AWE64 Gold when I was young, and I always called it "Aww" 64, not A-W-E.
Ruinah 3 months ago
Nice cards, used to have a SB AWE32 with 2 megs of RAM, you could play modules with hardware support in Linux, that was something back then. Used to own a GUS 512k too before that, that really was a legendary card.
I like this old stuff, but I dont want to keep any of it around anymore, as it's just taking up space and power, so thanks for sharing yours :) Although I want to yell out everytime you hold the cards from their golden connectors, causing oxidization of the impurities in our fingers.
BecomingTheChange 3 months ago
@BecomingTheChange I'm cringing every time phreakindee touches the gold connectors too, thinking about static!
MarkTheMorose 3 months ago
Please play metal gear on msx... Also policenauts!
cpnnpr 3 months ago
@cpnnpr I believe Policenauts was for the NEC PC-98.
ImperialProductions 3 months ago
Congrats on the 20k subs! Loved the show from the start!
cpnnpr 3 months ago
Yeah, Quarantine! Can't wait for that review!
Harmon1ca 3 months ago
I never understand what he's saying, it goes way over my head
stargazer209 3 months ago
The NV1's similarities with the SEGA SATURN lied in the fact that they both used quads instead of triangles to make up their polygon engines. Back then there was no concrete standard for 3D and companies were each experimenting with their own implementations, much as it happens today with things like physics. The Saturn ports of games such as Panzer Dragoon for the NV1 are quite rare from what I hear.
barc0deblankblank 3 months ago
Any major differences between the AWE32 and the AWE64? Doom's setup has "Sound Blaster AWE" on the device list, so seeing it in action would be pretty sweet.
michaliskebab 3 months ago
at 7:13, I think it's a midi-interface-sort-of-thingy.
barc0deblankblank 3 months ago
My first PC had a Cirrus Logic video card. :-)
256 kB RAM. Decent for it's time.
BernhardOelreich 3 months ago
I'd love to see that MSX2 up and running, especially if theres a chance to see Metal Gear running on its native platoform!
Rubba5 3 months ago
the 27 pin connector is used by old apple monitors(CRT of course)
IamFat32 3 months ago
Hell yeah, 3Dfx card!
IamFat32 3 months ago
@Shiqna1 *looks at the camera*
Everyone's a comedian!
GeorgeQGreg 3 months ago
That first strange card is for macintosh periferals. either that or they stole Apple's connector layout. I do know they once made an apple II ISA card for using Apple software on old 8086 and early 286 machines. so it could go with one of those.
IamFat32 3 months ago
That ISA audio card looked like a sound blaster 2.0, It looked like it also had spots for the CMS chips plus that other chip creative left out from the game blaster on the SB 2.0.
superstarbucklucky 3 months ago
Quarantine, Man I can't wait for the review. Awesome memories, and despite it's bugs and quirks, a game WAY ahead of it's time.
Mueiwark 3 months ago
the PC ISA card that has what looks like a Svideo output on it is a bus mouse card which they used on the early XT and 80286 machines for mouse support under dos
cgohma 3 months ago
LOL when you said "I can't even get it all in here at once" I was like - that sounded wrong, then you said it
holdingholder 3 months ago
I always dreamed about owning a floppy with "Oh Shit" written on it.
LunaVorax 3 months ago 2
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Carambal81 3 months ago
When you said pile of silicon I thought you would show some dead strippers not the pile of vintage PC cards. Still good either way!
crazyhitlover 3 months ago
@crazyhitlover Ha. Yeah, there's a big difference between silicon and silicone :D
phreakindee 3 months ago 2
@phreakindee I spelled it that way for a reason lol
crazyhitlover 3 months ago
@phreakindee Tell that to my girlfriend, who deleted my copy of Pirates of Silicon Valley when she found it :/
norbolt 3 months ago
8-pin DIN card could be a rare later Apple Localtalk interface card, but those mostly had the older DB9 port on them. A Zilog 8530 is usually a dead giveaway on those, at least the eariler ones.
The 2nd unknown card screams Soundblaster 2.0 clone card to me, the missing chips are likely for CMS support. If there is an FCC ID on these mystery cards, run it and see what comes up!
I had the Orchid Righteous 3D card, notable since it was the first retail VooDoo 1 board on the market.
NJRoadfan 3 months ago
7:45 suddenly everyone will google M2058214 :D i sure did
jettaboigls 3 months ago
@jettaboigls it looks like a sound blaster 2.0 to me, kinda looks likes there spots for cms stuff to
unspawnedspartons 3 months ago
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TeamRocketReviews 3 months ago
From an electronics POV that card you didn't know what it did seems pretty basic/old school? With the two MOFSET transistors on the far right and the capacitor array one would presume there's a large amount of power going through it, maybe one of the first serial links, that somebody's modified to give an s-video output?
EnquinoxFlux 3 months ago
only have 4 subers :(
MrTof11 3 months ago
That one unknown card has 8-pin Mini-DIN connector, for which Wikipedia helpfully lists some possibilities, see page Mini-DIN_connector#8-pin
KonnunMerri 3 months ago
Especially the MSX2 one!
Zankuho 3 months ago
I am looking forward to watch reviews of these delightful devices in action!
Zankuho 3 months ago
METAL GEAR YEA!
Chamele7n 3 months ago
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ItsMarvinAbel 3 months ago
Don't feel stupid for calling the stupid Trident card stupid. Because it really is... quite stupid. Seriously, the performance is HORRIBLE! Need to find another card for my 486. So that using it... won't suck. Screen draws at a snails pace. Wouldn't recommend bothering to install it.
GeorgeQGreg 3 months ago
@jettaboigls If you're curious, this is the part number I Googled: F29176844
phreakindee 3 months ago
Scart adapters come in a couple of variants catering for input and output or switchable. Mind you there is a Japanese video connector that looks like a scart connector but it is not. This Euro scart connector probably will do proper composite video out. Your set needs to be able to handle 50hz PAL though...
markvergeer 3 months ago
O h. S h i t is a great pacman clone that actually says that when it dies...
markvergeer 3 months ago