I am a darksider for the most part but I have played this way when a hot shooter comes along and done all right with it. The hits on the come out rolls are nice cause you can lay odds on any of the don'ts you may have up there and on the next come out when those 7's start to come up,It's a nice little hit.
YOU people need to learn how to get feel for each table and best time of day to play craps ! ME i play late night after midnight looking for the ice cold tables where shooters are holding chips in hands praying that the numbers get made !
in 1 hour starting with $100 I have won hundreds of dollars lucky if 1 shooter out of 7 makes a pass !
hey guy, putting a bet on both the lines does not reduce house edge in any way -- with $5 bet you lose $5/$360 = 1.38888....% which is exactly the average between the well known dont 1.36363...% and pass 1.4141...% as it obviously should be! what you do is make so you have 0 chance of ever having a profit on the line bets and exactly the same overall loss to the house! you cannot make a logical choice about where to put odds bet -- no odds bet (pass or dont) is any more valuable than another.
the best strategy in craps bet against the shooter same amount money you starts example if it is ten dollars thats the amount after 3 hours i assure you will win but do you have patience and that is boaring way to play this game . but you will win the avg table a shooter will get hot is n1 in every 8 .
@ryad40 so let me understand.... you have a "strategy" that you "assure" me "will win". but it is too boring!!!! believe me, if i had a strategy that "will win" it would not be boring. of course if there was a strat that "will win" everyone would be doing it and there would be no craps delt in a casino
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you said there are three ways to hit a ten... a six and a four, a four and a six and a five and a five?????? thats when i stopped taking craps advice from you.
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Ouch! Tested this out and got hit hard on those don't pass bets. It hurts like heck to lose those larger chunks of money on the don't side, a real bankroll killer. It does seem rather pointless playing both sides, especially considering the other bets you can couple with do/pass that amp up the winnings in the middle.
Beware of any betting system. Especially when a system wants you to place bets based on how the table "feels". This is nuts. Only a moron would follow something like this. You want a good betting system - place the max odds on your pass line or do not pass line bets. Done. There is less than half a percent house odds. (0.38% and 0.28% respectfully.) Some casino's odds bets have even larger maximums than 3x-4x-5x - this will increase your odds even more!
it's a good bet to play both...I use it when playing at the casino, but check the casino rules before investing. you can also loose your PL bet on a "2"...at my casino anyway...don't know if it is the rule in other casino.
What you just referred to is what's called the gambler's fallacy. Please look it up. Each roll is INDEPENDENT of the previous rolls and the fact that a 12 hasn't been hit for a while DOES NOT give it a higher probability of coming up next. Your idea to LOAD up on a number if it hasn't been hit for a while is based on a false premise that previous rolls affect future rolls. They do not...
That online balance is play money. I don't play at online casinos for real. I only use them for practice. Do I win a ton of money? No. Do I lose a ton? No.
The house doesn't mind as they still have a little advantage. If the 12 comes up on the come out roll you will lose your pass line but push with your Don't Pass. This will happen once in 36 rolls.
If you want to make a fortune at the casino, don't play craps. It's a fun game and my goal is to keep about even, get a chance to play the game and not lose my shirt.
Well, this is as useless to winning as any other system, but it looks like if you just bet pass/don't pass at the same time then take or lay full odds you eliminate the house edge completely. You don't gain an advantage but it becomes like betting at 1:1 odds on a coin flip.
Since I posted before I was at Wizard of Odds that you are better off with the full loss than hedging on pass/don't pass and taking the loss you describe. He says the loss on the 12 offsets the hedge.
i love moron people making stupid systems, you cant beat it PERIOD quit trying....only remotely close is sliding the dice hoping theres no speedbump in the table.
I love morons that slam fairly intelligent systems. There are some dumb systems out there that don't make sense, this is not one. He's clearly not trying to BEAT the casino, only idiots think they can beat the casino because the odds are always in the houses favor. What he is doing is he's minimizing his risk off losing by hedging his bets and making the bets that pay out true odds and have higher probability of hitting
@tgloe your the moron lmao you just said slam a "fairly" intelligent system hahahaha that makes you even more of a moron theres no such thing as a fairly intellegent system, its people like you that bet like this EVERYONES laughing at you for playing that like...your stroking the dealers and you look stupid...HE SAID IF THE TABLE FEELS NEGATIVE BLAH BLAH BLAH hahahaha you are such a fucking moron...come see me where i work and ill tell you the same in person here in vegas fucking straight idiot
hahaha, that didn't even make sense dude. A "fairly" intelligent system...as in not perfect, yet not unsound either. There is a such thing as an imperfect system buddy. I personally do not use this system but it does make sense to me and I understand why people would play this way. Nice, baseless response though...you really got me with all those logical points you made.
the second you mention a SYSTEM you lose the argument....playing both bets is fucking pointless...your a flea and probably smell....every system is BULLSHIT, ya play how you want no problem, but in reality your playing do and dont to lose on a 12 and play or lay odds if they table "FEELS" negative? lmao ok so tell me how to test a table for its hot or cold setting? hows that work? baseless response lol your out of your mind. of course it makes sense but then why waste time with it LAY THE NUMBER
System - a set of interacting or interdependent entities forming an integrated whole
As in...I'm not walking up to a table with no idea what the bets are and how they can interact with each other. By having a system of bets I'm not just blindly throwing money on the table randomly with no clue what the better bets on the table are and how I can use them to minimize my losses. It's not a system that is designed to try and "beat the house," it elongates play and gives you the best chance to win
How is playing both bets pointless? You eliminate the number of ways you can lose to ONE # that can only be rolled ONE way...sounds pretty damn logical to me, and even then you only lose half of your bet. You almost completely eliminate the risk on the come out roll. Then once the point is established you can decide if you want to go with the roller or the house. If it's a 4 or 10, I'd go with the house but if he hits a 6 or an 8 you can bet with the roller. So where is this illogical to you?
@tgloe what about the 5 and 9? you still havent answered how to tell if the table is negative or not? lmao you know as well as i do theres no such thing and its bullshit....its simply a retard way to play and a strokers betting system...i bet your the kind of guy who takes a notepad and writes down every number that comes too huh? if your there to "grind" just go play blackjack and count cards rather break a dealers back with your stupid shit bets
What about the 5 and 9? You can bet em if you want. Sometimes I do sometimes I don't. For me it depends on how much money I have and whether I'm willing to take the extra risk. The point of the idea in this video is to bet with the best odds you can get without just throwing your money around the table on sucker bets.
There is no way to tell if a table is negative (as I mentioned in a response to a different post on here). MOST gamblers are superstitious and believe in streaks. I don't.
I never mentioned once above about telling if the table is negative. Sometimes "streaks" occur and you get a hot roller, but that is just part of the game of chance...you also hit the same "streaks" of losing. I maximize my bets once I'm playing with the casinos money and that is how you make money, use your winnings to maximize your wins and minimize your loss by hedging your bets with offsetting bets. The idea that is presented here is simply a way to minimize your loss before a good roller
i think you should only put odds down on the dont pass if the point is 4 or 10. They have the least % of being rolled besides 11 and craps.
Tropicsca 6 days ago
I am a darksider for the most part but I have played this way when a hot shooter comes along and done all right with it. The hits on the come out rolls are nice cause you can lay odds on any of the don'ts you may have up there and on the next come out when those 7's start to come up,It's a nice little hit.
totaldissenter69 4 weeks ago
the best way to leave the casino with a small fortune is start with a big one..
altimita 1 month ago
Love the doey-don't system. Long live the Captain.
awy1977 2 months ago
you are a retard if you think you can be +EV at any table game unless you're an MIT counter
coooolololol 3 months ago
YOU people need to learn how to get feel for each table and best time of day to play craps ! ME i play late night after midnight looking for the ice cold tables where shooters are holding chips in hands praying that the numbers get made !
in 1 hour starting with $100 I have won hundreds of dollars lucky if 1 shooter out of 7 makes a pass !
senseblogger 4 months ago
my system is when a man is going to roll the dice and hes wearing a beret on his head play the dont pass line.with full odds;
nic190 7 months ago
hey guy, putting a bet on both the lines does not reduce house edge in any way -- with $5 bet you lose $5/$360 = 1.38888....% which is exactly the average between the well known dont 1.36363...% and pass 1.4141...% as it obviously should be! what you do is make so you have 0 chance of ever having a profit on the line bets and exactly the same overall loss to the house! you cannot make a logical choice about where to put odds bet -- no odds bet (pass or dont) is any more valuable than another.
tampicokeed 7 months ago
the best strategy in craps bet against the shooter same amount money you starts example if it is ten dollars thats the amount after 3 hours i assure you will win but do you have patience and that is boaring way to play this game . but you will win the avg table a shooter will get hot is n1 in every 8 .
ryad40 8 months ago
@ryad40 so let me understand.... you have a "strategy" that you "assure" me "will win". but it is too boring!!!! believe me, if i had a strategy that "will win" it would not be boring. of course if there was a strat that "will win" everyone would be doing it and there would be no craps delt in a casino
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Antony6218 8 months ago
you said there are three ways to hit a ten... a six and a four, a four and a six and a five and a five?????? thats when i stopped taking craps advice from you.
incubusfan4211 9 months ago
@incubusfan4211 yea each dice is independent. Take a probability class moron.
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@incubusfan4211 Each dice is independent. Take a probability lesson moron.
rivion04 9 months ago
when the puck is on do i always play the minimum with 4 5 6 8 9 10 ???
suns32 10 months ago
thanks your vids are excellent. you do a great job of explaining and teaching us.
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Thornton3862 1 year ago
heheheheh dont come
ernieisag 1 year ago
sounds like the Patrick system
Circuit7Active 1 year ago
Ouch! Tested this out and got hit hard on those don't pass bets. It hurts like heck to lose those larger chunks of money on the don't side, a real bankroll killer. It does seem rather pointless playing both sides, especially considering the other bets you can couple with do/pass that amp up the winnings in the middle.
WeirdRichGuy 1 year ago
im visiting the casino soon and this was veeery helpful..cant wait!
am42085n 1 year ago
Beware of any betting system. Especially when a system wants you to place bets based on how the table "feels". This is nuts. Only a moron would follow something like this. You want a good betting system - place the max odds on your pass line or do not pass line bets. Done. There is less than half a percent house odds. (0.38% and 0.28% respectfully.) Some casino's odds bets have even larger maximums than 3x-4x-5x - this will increase your odds even more!
gavinottawa 1 year ago
Why don't you remove your don't pass bet once you put odds on your pass line bet?
rx7lover86 1 year ago
it's a good bet to play both...I use it when playing at the casino, but check the casino rules before investing. you can also loose your PL bet on a "2"...at my casino anyway...don't know if it is the rule in other casino.
lcmr123 2 years ago
stand @ a crap table and when the 12 hasnt came up in 36 times LOAD up on it...
jjbbq 2 years ago
Yeah but it might just not come up for another 100 throws and then come up 3 times in a row.
Bestdj0125 2 years ago 8
@jjbbq
That's good advice, because the dice have a brain and remember what they did the last 36 times.
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dumnuts1 2 years ago
What you just referred to is what's called the gambler's fallacy. Please look it up. Each roll is INDEPENDENT of the previous rolls and the fact that a 12 hasn't been hit for a while DOES NOT give it a higher probability of coming up next. Your idea to LOAD up on a number if it hasn't been hit for a while is based on a false premise that previous rolls affect future rolls. They do not...
tgloe 2 years ago
@jjbbq youll be at the palms casino waiting all day for that to happen...
gunit323boxer 1 year ago
That online balance is play money. I don't play at online casinos for real. I only use them for practice. Do I win a ton of money? No. Do I lose a ton? No.
Bestdj0125 2 years ago
@Bestdj0125 online casinos are usually rigged, and ty 4 the videos bestdj
adamasagex 1 year ago
I thought you wernt allowed to place bets on both the pass and dont pass lines!!
pittsburgh1818 2 years ago
The house doesn't mind as they still have a little advantage. If the 12 comes up on the come out roll you will lose your pass line but push with your Don't Pass. This will happen once in 36 rolls.
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CrazyJoker47 2 years ago
If you want to make a fortune at the casino, don't play craps. It's a fun game and my goal is to keep about even, get a chance to play the game and not lose my shirt.
Bestdj0125 2 years ago
Well, this is as useless to winning as any other system, but it looks like if you just bet pass/don't pass at the same time then take or lay full odds you eliminate the house edge completely. You don't gain an advantage but it becomes like betting at 1:1 odds on a coin flip.
Srd1126 2 years ago
The house still has the advantage for the 1/36 chance a 12 hits on the come-out roll and you lose your pass line bet but push on the don't pass.
ShueyOSU 2 years ago
Since I posted before I was at Wizard of Odds that you are better off with the full loss than hedging on pass/don't pass and taking the loss you describe. He says the loss on the 12 offsets the hedge.
Srd1126 2 years ago
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bippers 2 years ago
i love moron people making stupid systems, you cant beat it PERIOD quit trying....only remotely close is sliding the dice hoping theres no speedbump in the table.
vouaux 2 years ago
I love morons that slam fairly intelligent systems. There are some dumb systems out there that don't make sense, this is not one. He's clearly not trying to BEAT the casino, only idiots think they can beat the casino because the odds are always in the houses favor. What he is doing is he's minimizing his risk off losing by hedging his bets and making the bets that pay out true odds and have higher probability of hitting
tgloe 2 years ago
@tgloe your the moron lmao you just said slam a "fairly" intelligent system hahahaha that makes you even more of a moron theres no such thing as a fairly intellegent system, its people like you that bet like this EVERYONES laughing at you for playing that like...your stroking the dealers and you look stupid...HE SAID IF THE TABLE FEELS NEGATIVE BLAH BLAH BLAH hahahaha you are such a fucking moron...come see me where i work and ill tell you the same in person here in vegas fucking straight idiot
vouaux 2 years ago
hahaha, that didn't even make sense dude. A "fairly" intelligent system...as in not perfect, yet not unsound either. There is a such thing as an imperfect system buddy. I personally do not use this system but it does make sense to me and I understand why people would play this way. Nice, baseless response though...you really got me with all those logical points you made.
tgloe 2 years ago
the second you mention a SYSTEM you lose the argument....playing both bets is fucking pointless...your a flea and probably smell....every system is BULLSHIT, ya play how you want no problem, but in reality your playing do and dont to lose on a 12 and play or lay odds if they table "FEELS" negative? lmao ok so tell me how to test a table for its hot or cold setting? hows that work? baseless response lol your out of your mind. of course it makes sense but then why waste time with it LAY THE NUMBER
vouaux 2 years ago
System - a set of interacting or interdependent entities forming an integrated whole
As in...I'm not walking up to a table with no idea what the bets are and how they can interact with each other. By having a system of bets I'm not just blindly throwing money on the table randomly with no clue what the better bets on the table are and how I can use them to minimize my losses. It's not a system that is designed to try and "beat the house," it elongates play and gives you the best chance to win
tgloe 2 years ago
How is playing both bets pointless? You eliminate the number of ways you can lose to ONE # that can only be rolled ONE way...sounds pretty damn logical to me, and even then you only lose half of your bet. You almost completely eliminate the risk on the come out roll. Then once the point is established you can decide if you want to go with the roller or the house. If it's a 4 or 10, I'd go with the house but if he hits a 6 or an 8 you can bet with the roller. So where is this illogical to you?
tgloe 2 years ago
@tgloe what about the 5 and 9? you still havent answered how to tell if the table is negative or not? lmao you know as well as i do theres no such thing and its bullshit....its simply a retard way to play and a strokers betting system...i bet your the kind of guy who takes a notepad and writes down every number that comes too huh? if your there to "grind" just go play blackjack and count cards rather break a dealers back with your stupid shit bets
vouaux 2 years ago
What about the 5 and 9? You can bet em if you want. Sometimes I do sometimes I don't. For me it depends on how much money I have and whether I'm willing to take the extra risk. The point of the idea in this video is to bet with the best odds you can get without just throwing your money around the table on sucker bets.
There is no way to tell if a table is negative (as I mentioned in a response to a different post on here). MOST gamblers are superstitious and believe in streaks. I don't.
tgloe 2 years ago
I never mentioned once above about telling if the table is negative. Sometimes "streaks" occur and you get a hot roller, but that is just part of the game of chance...you also hit the same "streaks" of losing. I maximize my bets once I'm playing with the casinos money and that is how you make money, use your winnings to maximize your wins and minimize your loss by hedging your bets with offsetting bets. The idea that is presented here is simply a way to minimize your loss before a good roller
tgloe 2 years ago
this is a ret arded system
Cdub2k 2 years ago
What program are you using to show this?
tylerkessler 2 years ago
I am using Intercasino software and just setup my camera to record the screen.
Bestdj0125 2 years ago
You're a genius , I'm going to guess your playing this on a online casino , my question is what one?
Courage68 3 years ago
In this case I am using Intercasino. Only thing I find about online casinos - don't follow them into the hole. You will lose everytime!
Bestdj0125 3 years ago
Great to see you post another video of my favorite game :) Great vid.
StrikerV 3 years ago