This is dumb. Everyone needs to watch the video "It's only sexist when men do it" on the related to the right if you WANT TO SEE REAL SEXISM GOING ON IN OUR WORLD.
That's right! He said it he will get into trouble for this... How does sexism treat men? With contempt. Women will never get men to take them seriously with this sexism shit they will joke and laugh about it because sexism is a joke. You can't tell a person that they are not allowed to say this or that women do that crap to each other you can't treat a man like a woman that is your first mistake the other thing that sexism does is use litigation to punish a man that is your second mistake LOSERS
Yinz need to calm down. Men built us this country. We should be respectful of their nice comments, like when a guy says "nice rack", why the fuck are you having a shit fit over how you're treated so damn horribly? He complimented you! Say thank you for once god damnit!
P.S. Not all of us women are ugly flat feminists:D
oh, shut the fuck up. when men start winning child custody cases, cant lose half their shit to some greedy bitch, and stop getting demonized by the media you can talk.
women get FAR more than they deserve, and the heterosexual relationship is destroyed by you fucking idiot feminists. please die.
@Phalanx3800 Really? Go away. Really. Just because you feel threatened doesn't mean you can use lines like that to try and control women. Sorry more and more of us are finally standing up, and trust me, we won't be back in the kitchen anytime soon. Grow up.
How about you get over yourself and realize that women are already equal to men under the law. Feminism is a dead issue, and you sound like some idiot college kid who just has a lady boner for hating men. Enjoy the loneliness bulldyke.
@Phalanx3800 Lol you must be mad bro. You're saying we're equal but then you're resorting to calling me dyke? Right. Also, we're equal under the law because the equal rights amendment was passed right? Lol, it wasn't. So no, feminism isn't dead. Feminism is not about hating men, either. Have I used sexist comments against you? No. Hmm, yet you've used them. Read up, kid. There's lots of real information to learn if you actually learn it from legitimate places. =\.
Sexism is nothing more than displeasure in a Man's behaviour. It has the added bonus of causing enmity between the sexes. Sexism's only hope lies in creating chaos and hate. Women are happy to spend hours shopping to look good and buying expensive cosmetics to apply on their faces, then get offended when they are complimented...
Women constantly compete with each other, so I do not see why men have to be blamed for women having to look good. Sexism's power lies in manipulating MANS thinking...
As a girl, I take offense to your generalization. I am NOT happy to spend hours shopping to look good. I am NOT happy to buy expensive cosmetics, never mind even WEARING them.
And I also don't get offended when I'm complimented. I appreciate being told that I'm pretty or beautiful. Not that I'm hot or sexy. What I don't appreciate it is when I'm objectified and told that nothing but my appearance matters.
@taekwondolvr The problem is that "girls" talk in strange ways they first deny then they admit. Youre happy to be told your pretty or beautiful but not hot or sexy so is it the choice in words or whether it is a female or male saying it. Or what you are really offended about is Etiquette or class. These have nothing to do with sexism it is just a
uncouth choice of words. Who even said that only appearance matters if a woman has no personality then men will leave you crying:)
@shadowfighting88 Not necessarily. Plus, I'm not necessarily happy to be complimented based on appearance. I'd much rather be told that I'm a great friend or something else that doesn't have to do with the way I look. As for your pseudo-question, it's the word choice. I don't care who says it. A compliment is a compliment, but some are more degrading than others. Does that make sense? No one says appearance is the only thing that matters, but looking at the media, it's sure as hell implied.
@taekwondolvr It's unfortunate but girls/women will always be judged by their looks and you can blame nature for that. If women were all ugly then you would all be judged equally same as if they were all pretty (hence the burka). Men look for beauty initially because they are visual (nature) however that does not mean that is all that matters, as sexism implies.
It's not necessarily nature's fault. If you look at the video, notice how all they comment on is how a female politician looks- not the policies she supports. That's not nature. Nature would be to take note of how any other person looks. It's not what causes women to be defined and judged only by how pretty and young they look.
@taekwondolvr uuhhhmmmm! No Its nature:) I just explained that men are visual... Therefore they "will" comment on a woman's looks and women also comment on a woman's looks so how is that sexist? Do you really believe that anyone believes or cares about the policies of a politician? It always and will be "nature" that causes
@shadowfighting88 I never said nature is completely innocent. Yes, people will comment on how other people look. That in itself is natural. Everyone does it, and it's not sexism. You seem to be misunderstanding my point. My point is that it's sexism when a woman is defined by her beauty. Furthermore, people better care about the policies of a politician- they run our country. Oh wait, maybe that's why we have so many IDIOTS in the government.
@taekwondolvr It's not that people don't care about policies it's that politicians can never deliver they start off with good intention then get absorbed by the system so that is why politics is BULLSHIT:| Anyway sexism is some made up word that tries to explain why women are treated differently its laughable because by nature woman ARE the weaker sex and the weak survive because the strong allow them to. The fact that men love women is never mentioned but that again is nature:}
@shadowfighting88 That's true, but the people have a right to know what policies a politician stands for. After all, voters should be voting based on who has the best policies- not who looks pretty. And it's only the women who get commented on solely based on their appearance. Also, if a woman dares to speak out, she's labelled as a 'bitch'. That's not okay.
All words are made up. Sexism included. But sexism is real. Women are not naturally weaker. I've taken down guys. It's not hard.
@shadowfighting88 (continued from last post) Yes, women are physically smaller, but we're not inherently weaker than men. It's just made out to be that way. Women are just as capable as men. And that's why sexism is a problem.
@taekwondolvr Women are the weaker sex. The reason that women even feel they
are near men physically is because men are gentle with women. Due to many reasons but usually lust/love is the main reason. Because I am a man I see the way a guys behavior changes when he is around girls/women he becomes more respectful and interested in what they say.Women therefore develop egos and believe the most stupid shit imaginable because guys are horny and will just agree with her. Introducing Blonde Jokes:)
@shadowfighting88 Please stop making generalizations. Some men are quite rough, even abusive, with women, and not all women want to be with men. And some women do believe the most stupid things-but that's called internalized misogyny. And why does that even happen? The media.
@taekwondolvr Men are rough by NATURE and it only makes sense that once a man stops respecting a woman that they will be abused that is because MEN are the STRONGER sex and when they get angry a woman cannot defend herself:| PROVEN...
However I am not talking about "internalized misogyny" I am talking about ego's not the
"hatred of your own kind". Lastly you can not blame the media for everything some people are just not mature enough to be able to sort through all the rubble:)
@shadowfighting88 Again with the generalizations. Not all men are rough by nature, and women can defend herself with training. And why should a man stop respecting a woman? There is absolutely no excuse for a human not respecting another human. It's quite difficult to dehumanize a person you have respect for, you know.
There's also this thing called a subliminal message that is in pretty much any ad and quite a few television programs/movies. It's not lack of maturity- anyone can fall for it.
@taekwondolvr You just have to look at children the way that boys are tough an hurtful
and girls are gentle and caring that is NATURE in action. However they are then taught by their parents and society to behave themselves:} Even though a woman can defend themselves that does not mean that they are NOT weaker...There are too many reasons why a man would stop respecting a woman as you have probably read by now:| Why is your whole perception of reality been formed by the media?
@shadowfighting88 Okay, no that's not true. I've met kind and gentle boys and horribly mean, nasty, hurtful girls. Are they unnatural? Of course not. Yes, their parents and society have an influence, and that's the point. Society's influence can be both good and bad, and their parents are just as influenced by society as they are.
List the reasons, please. I'd like to hear them. I can't think of any reason to not respect another human.
My whole perception of reality isn't formed by the media,
@taekwondolvr I'm taking about NATURE and you are talking about SOCIETY.You can not prove that those gentle and kind boys are not interested in you sexually. If a law was passed that they could do whatever they wanted without being jailed then be prepared to find for what you consider sacred. Nature screams out SEX and society screams out SHAME:) That is why stupid women always get raped because they thought he was such a nice guy.
@shadowfighting88 : Let's not go into the nature vs. nurture debate anymore, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree there- I'll admit that I'm curious about your take on the hurtful girls, though.
Most 5 year olds aren't interested in sex, by the way. And as for the ones I'm friends with now, well, I can't prove that, but I'm pretty sure they aren't. And if they are, that sucks for them, because I am not and never will be interested in them that way.
@shadowfighting88 Also, since you say nature screams out 'sex', then explain asexuals, please. Society screams 'shame' to women. If a woman dare sleeps with a guy, she becomes labelled as a whore/slut. If a guy sleeps around, he's considered a player/stud. No one should have to be shamed for sexuality. However, raping another person is another matter. Rape is a terrible crime. It's a violation of human rights- a person's right to their own body. THAT is shameful. Sex is not.
@taekwondolvr Sure asexuals just means there is a problem with their wiring.
Rape is a terrible crime again it is disrespect and hatred of women and its out there.
You know that men want sex and women want sex because it is NATURE that provokes us. However from that point onwards it becomes psychological that is where
@shadowfighting88 (continued) And way to victim blame. This is another example of sexism- rape culture.
Women don't ask to be raped. They don't want to be raped. It's not her fault that she got raped. Yes, maybe she thought he was nice. But really- who expects to be raped? Yes, maybe she let him buy her a drink. But did she ask him to spike her drink or force her into it or take no for yes? No. She didn't. It's not her fault.
@shadowfighting88 You know what makes me sick? Victim blaming. Please stop. Women shouldn't have to be told that they must do x, y, z so that they don't get assaulted. Men should be told to not assault others.
Buddy systems don't really help, you know. Shit happens.
@taekwondolvr There was this story I read about in the paper about a British man who after being warned about a shark was told not to go swimming in the water at a Cape Town, South Africa, beach. Anyway he ignored those warnings and had both legs bitten off and he could be heard screaming "please help me"... The moral of the story don't assume that something won't happen just because it shouldn't or you don't believe it will:)... "Victim blaming"? NO REALITY is different from your WISH list:)
@shadowfighting88 Those are two different things. The man knew that the shark was there and knew that he would be attacked if he went swimming. He did anyway. That was a bad decision, but it still wasn't his fault. He didn't ask the shark to bite his legs off, did he? People don't expect to be raped every time she/he heads out his/her own front door. And when they do get raped, people say "oh, you shouldn't have done (insert whatever)." They didn't ask to be raped, did they? Of course not.
@taekwondolvr No one expects anything that is true:) However rapists are like sharks some people will tell you that sharks are not interested in human meat yet time and time again they have taken humans... Is it accidental or deliberate? No one knows:| Anyway if you look at it that way you will find that they are two similar things and that was the point I was trying to make:|
@shadowfighting88 Rape is never accidental. But other than that, your analogy does make some sense. I'll admit that. But I'm not arguing about the story- I'm arguing that victim blaming is a terrible thing. It's never the rape victim's fault because they never asked to be raped, contrary to what some people say.
@taekwondolvr I am not interested in what you think:} I am simply expressing my opinions and so you know when I am happy or serious. You are in control of your feelings and I am in control of mine:)
@shadowfighting88 If you're not interested in what I think, then why continue? It's obvious that you think I'm an idiot, anyway. All you've done, really, is attack my beliefs, well, no, you've mostly attacked me. You've ignored about half of my comments. As far as I'm concerned, that means I've won.
@taekwondolvr There was this story I read about in the paper about a British man who after being warned about a shark was told not to go swimming in the water at a Cape Town, South Africa, beach. Anyway he ignored those warnings and had both legs bitten off and he could be heard screaming "please help me"... The moral of the story don't assume that something won't happen just because it shouldn't or you don't believe it will:)... "Victim blaming"? NO REALITY is different from your WISH list:)
@shadowfighting88 There is nothing wrong with being asexual. Head on over to AVEN and see. Nothing's physically 'wrong' with asexuals.
Rape is out there, but so is genocide. That doesn't mean they're good, either. Did you know that 1 in 6 women in the US has experienced rape? And that rape is glorified in at least some ads? AND that most people give advice on how to not get raped, and not to not rape.
@taekwondolvr There would be something wrong with being asexual if 100% percent of the population were:) The human species would not survive:| So therefore a few odds and ends shouldn't make much difference. However I never said rape is good I hate men who resort and if they ever raped anyone I know THEN watch out:| Lets move on:)
You're also contradicting yourself. You just said that there's something wrong with the wiring of asexuals. Now you're saying that nothing's wrong with them unless everyone were. Well, news flash, asexuals can (shockingly) have sex and children!
@taekwondolvr Resort to IT... If everyone had a lack of sexual interest in sex then they would not have SEX. The only reason that asexual"s would have sex is to PLEASE the person who WANTS sex does that make sense? There is NO contradiction:} Why do I continually have to explain the obvious to you are you retarded?
@shadowfighting88 Contrary to your belief, the verb resort needs a DO in order to make sense. So no, it's not explaining the obvious. That also implies that men can't get sex otherwise- not true.
I know asexuals who would have sex to please their partner, and many who would only have sex to have kids. We're wired to survive. If that means doing icky things, they'd probably do those. Or nature would've given us asexual reproduction.
Again with attacking me. Ad hominem won't get you anywhere.
@taekwondolvr Great Logic! lets apply that to everything in life., I could never kill someone because I might have nightmares and your logic is "How can you Know It's never been done":(
@shadowfighting88 There's a difference between my scenario and yours. Equality between women and men has NEVER existed, but murder has. We know the possible psychological effects of killing a person. We don't know the effects of equality because it has NEVER existed ANYWHERE.
@shadowfighting88 Um, no, not really. How hard is it to accept that another human being is just that- a capable human being. Women/feminists are NOT trying to put women in control. There are many male feminists. So no, men are not entirely against equality. Equality. Not matriarchy. You seem to be missing the point.
@taekwondolvr Well I believe women already have equality and if the employer decides to pay a woman less than a MAN then that does not mean equality does not exist.
Women tend to expect someone to do the right thing instead of demand it:)
@shadowfighting88 See, that in itself isn't a problem, but women get paid less for the same job. That's the problem. That isn't equality. Objectification of women isn't equality. Rape culture and victim blame isn't equality. Lack of women in government/science isn't equality. Men trying to control women or make them seem less powerful isn't equality.
And news flash? Women ARE demanding rights. We have been for a long time. You know, only since the 1800s or so.
@taekwondolvr Listen! The PROBLEM is that people are never satisfied Sexism is some made up word that is connected with the industrial revolution. However it is survival of the fittest in the real world you take what you get. Let's look at women they are always talking about how it's a man fault for this and for that (finger pointers) and
every time there is a debate women say that a man is being sexist. All women do among themselves is FIGHT but it is not called sexist is it? That's Distorted
@shadowfighting88 Hm, white males seem to be pretty satisfied, from the looks of it. Notice how small of a group that is. Sexism is a made up word- but all words are. That doesn't mean it's not a problem. And honestly, it IS mostly men's fault because men have controlled the governments, and therefore the policies, for millenniums. Women can get along quite well, and those who are catty to other women suffer from internalized misogyny. And women debate all the time without using the sexist card
@shadowfighting88 There are women who do not do those things and it's not fair to call EVERY woman that just because some do it, and it's also not right to assume that all black haired people do something because most black haired people do it, etc, etc, etc
Also, how is it sexism if they fight amongst themselves? They aren't necessarily fighting each other because they are women, but because they are angry about something.
@shadowfighting88 Um, maybe so many people expect the right thing and don't demand it is because when they try to demand it they get the kind of treatment you are dishing out.
@shadowfighting88 There are many men who would, but I agree it should not happne. No one is putting a heel on your head just by asking to be treated fairly, except if you try to stop the person, and I would guess that any person being stopped from being treated fairly would do the same.
@taekwondolvr WTF? Victim blame? I wrote That it was nature that provokes men and women to have sex not rape. You are so busy looking for holes that you continually fall into the ones that you are creating... Anyway if you checked all responses you will find that I have answered all you questions:) Move on and stop annoying me...
@shadowfighting88 That's true. But then you went on to essentially say it was the woman's fault. That, my dear, is victim blaming.
And actually, you haven't. You never gave me reasons to stop respecting another person, you never answered my post where I pointed out that there are women leading the government and men can only offer perspective, and of course, when you just went 'blah blah blah'.
@shadowfighting88 No, you simply said that there were many. That's not an answer, considering that I asked you for specifics.
In case you haven't noticed, you're the one acting childishly by merely insulting me. And want to know what's sad? I'm used to being dismissed the way you are right now because I'm a woman. I'm sorry you can't accept that for society to improve, equality must occur. Particularly for a democracy/republic, where every person should have a voice.
@taekwondolvr I thought you said "women debate all the time without bringing up the sexist card" Like I said at the very beginning of the argument The problem is that "girls" talk in strange ways they first deny then they admit. You are clearly frustrated and I thought I was talking with someone else... Goodbye:(
@taekwondolvr at the end of da day a bitchez place in inda kitchen yeah an ironin an all dat shit wear az all us blokezg'waan out an urn dollar so yooz whores can go shoppin an suk cok
@shadowfighting88 How does that make her stupid? HE might have been a really convincing guy. How do you know?
and many "nice people" want sex, just not rough, violent forced sex.
And many little boys, BY NATURE, DO like "girly" things. If it's nature, how come so many people are beaten up for being "sissies"? they wouldnt' risk being beaten up if they could choose it, if it weren't natural.
@shadowfighting88 (continued) but it's certainly affected by it. The problem is, things like media literacy, which prevents the warping of reality by the media, isn't taught. Like it or not, the media both reflects and perpetuates societal values. This includes the objectification of women, racism, homophobia, etc. It can also permeate good values, of course, but the promotion of negative values is the problem.
@taekwondolvr BLAH BLAH BLAH... The issues you are talking about have been in existence for thousands of years how do you explain that? Sure the media uses certain images for effect but they cannot provoke anything that is not already in motion:| We are living in chaos you want a linear solution for the equality of women it is impossible. First remove chaos then you have a chance. Until then live your life stop judging others, especially when you are so out of touch with nature:}
@shadowfighting88 Way to ignore my arguments and attack me instead. That's a logical fallacy, you know.
Pretty much every society in human history has been patriarchal. Including today's. And this time, you did agree with my point, by the way. The media reflects society's ideals. And some of society's ideals are, frankly, outdated.
I'd still like answers to my questions, by the way.
As for the chaos, it's never going to go away. But the African Americans got somewhere, so can women.
@taekwondolvr Why has it been patriarchal? What can women offer that is not already established? What can women do that would be different? It's easy to attack but much harder to establish. Women who complain about men are just sand kickers:)
@shadowfighting88 Patriarchal because it's run and controlled by men. If you look at statistics, men are in control of the US government and make most of the money, even though most of the workforce and half the US is female. Maybe we can't offer anything different, but at least we are able to give our perspective. What can any minority offer that's different besides a different perspective? Nothing, really, because we're all people. That's no reason to stop equality from happening.
@taekwondolvr So it's run and controlled by men:| Who is the stronger of the species?
Do we let the weak run the world? Again who is the stronger of the species? You yourself even stated that women have nothing to offer except perspective don't you think you already got that? Thanks for finally proving that sexism is just some made up word:) Peace out.
@shadowfighting88 Firstly, there are countries out there where women run the government. Guess what? They're doing great. Women and men are not separate species, and neither is stronger.
Men have nothing to offer but perspective, either, yet they run everything. We, as women, have our perspective, but our perspective is ignored. So no, we don't have that already. So no, sexism has not been proved to be just some made up word.
@taekwondolvr NO! there is no countries out there that is doing great, otherwise we would pack our bags and BE there:) So if women have nothing to offer why change for no benefit?
Those WOMEN deserve every name they are called WHY????
@shadowfighting88 Moving countries is pretty extreme. People do live in those nations, though, and they're doing quite well. They're not collapsing, anyway. But I mean, if things continue this way, and if I get enough money(unlikely because of DISCRIMINATION against women) I'd sure as HELL move.
Women don't want to rule the world. We just want equality. Being a true feminist means you want equal rights for women. So the point is equality, not matriarchy.
@taekwondolvr Also, I could call men a lot of terrible things. But would I? No. Because even though patriarchy is oppressive, I can rise above people like you and not badmouth them.
Humans don't deserve name calling. Humans don't deserve disrespect.
@shadowfighting88 No one says they can offer anything different. We;re not saying women should be allowed to run the world BECAUSE they are women. We're saying that disallowing a person to rule the world becuase of something that doesn't have anything to do with how they rule (as evidenced by the fact that many women do as well as men) is wrong.
@shadowfighting88 Um, i've seen a ton of boys who DONT like trucks and tough stuff and tons of girls who do, from birth. My brother liked pink and I liked trucks, and other stuff.
@shadowfighting88 There are many women who can defend themselves against men, many women who are stronger. And it's not nature, because many societies, like the Tuaregs in Africa, teach that men are WEAKER. And we cause a lot of that, through how we chooose to feed our kids.
@shadowfighting88 Um, if you agree with someone because you are horny, you are lying to them and that is extremely unfiar and hurtful and disrespectful. To develop an "ego" from it is much less of an immoral thing to do.
How would you like to know that someone isn't caring about what you say, but for something else (whether or NOT it is sex, or food, or your money, or anything)? You wouldnt like it.
@shadowfighting88 Weak doesn't explain why they are treated differently because they are treated differently even when it has nothing to do with weakness or strength.
Also, why are women who are strong treated like they are weaker? there is no excuse or answer for that
@shadowfighting88 Furthermore (sorry for double posting) the burka is a religious garment. It has nothing to do with how ugly or pretty a woman is. Please do your research. Thanks.
@taekwondolvr Oooohhhhhh! Sorry! Okay then here it is..... "In Islam, the words of God are that the women should be modest and follow the principle of clothing. She should cover her beauty. At home or among family or in front of her husband there is no need to wear the Muslim headscarf." Maybe you should do your research:)
@shadowfighting88 See, you never refuted my argument. The burka is a religious garment.
So therefore, I have done my research. Furthermore, religious texts should not be interpreted literally. After all, "ugly" women wear the burka, and so do "pretty" women. It's not a matter of how pretty or ugly a woman is, she wears it anyway because it's a religious thing.
@taekwondolvr Wrong! I did refute your argument...My argument was about equality I was suggesting that if everyone looked the same then everyone would be treated equally:) You missed the point. The purpose of the burka in Islam is used to cover up a woman beauty and yes "it"s a religious thing" So you will probably say"I am agreeing with you" because it seems you are looking for points in this argument:| Furthermore just because you say it "should not" doesn't mean it won't be:}
@shadowfighting88 If everyone looked the same, some people would still wear the burka. And if everyone looked the same, it'd be a shame. Humans are beautiful, but it's the differences that make it so.
I never said that you were agreeing with me. I realize we're debating here, and if we agreed that'd be rather pointless. And yes, I realize that there are people who interpret religious texts literally. But that doesn't make everything they say 100% true.
@shadowfighting88 If men are all visual how come many men marry ugly women? Do you know how many men ARE NOT stereotypically male, by YOUR definition of masculine?
If it were natural, then those who act "feminine"- to the point of being beaten and bullied- wouldnt be doing so, if their nature were to be more "masculine". What kind of kid CHOOSES to act like a "sissy" even though he might get beaten up?
@Mirani2 Men choose to marry women with "personalities" over women with looks that is why there are so many men marrying ugly women and also men choose to marry plain women because they feel that they plain women will not cheat. Yeh I know Go figure... hahaha.
@shadowfighting88 Yes, I know many men with ugly wives, and so do you, you have seen them. Furthermore, what makes you think people think ugly people cheat less?
@shadowfighting88 Many of the women who shop for the makeup are not the ones who don't like compliments. Many women like compliments, and many don't shop for makeup. Use your common sense.
Besides, most of these women try to look good because of TV, not men. Possibly patriarchy, but not all men.
And maybe it's because theyre afriad they aren't getting a true compliment but are being judged on how they look, since some people get that treatment in their lives.
Why...I'm not surprised that 99% of the clips are from FOX news? I never seen a News channel full of uneducated, racist, sexist, assholes and the people that they have on are the same! I don't understand how this channel is called news??
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Women dont think men are beautiful in their own magestic way? I still say "F" her like a porn star but treat her like a princess always! I DREAM of Jeanie!
I think just the opposite is happening now in media. Men are being treated like knuckle dragging, dim witted Neanderthals; As compared to the remarkably clever, intelligent and more successful female co-actresses
For the love of Pete, just check out how the majority of the worlds female population lives compared to your life... And then QUIT BITCHING. Men worked to damn hard to build this country FOR YOU, to have to listen to whining about how you're treated unfairly. I'm sorry but you were born the most desirable thing on the world to a man, and like everything else, that's not good enough? Get over yourselves.
@darththc so the only reason we women are born is so we can be desirable for men? that's what you think?! get over YOURself! I bet you have a girlfriend!
@darththc Actually, the PEOPLE made this country because the PEOPLE didn't like Britain's taxes. Women helped in the Revolution the ways they could, which, honestly, weren't many. And why? Because of the patriarchy that existed at the time.
And notice how you say "the most desirable thing". Thing. Women are not things. We are people. And that, my dear, is why we have a long ways to go. Yes, we are in better shape than some places, but the system is highly unfair.
Seriously? Women are the most coddled, pampered, and protect creatures in america. They don't want equality, they want to expand the rediculous list of double standards they already enjoy. And to any lady that wants to rail against me, know that I have a mother, mother in law, sister, sister in law, aunts, a wonderful wife and two beautiful daughters, none of whom disagree when I point out the they enjoy greater protection under the law, more specialized healthcare. Men built this world FOR YOU.
If women don't want men to comment on their looks or notice their looks then women should stop wearing lipstick, makeup, high heels, and perfume. All of these are worn by women to enhance their sexual attractiveness. Yet, if a man dares looks at a women in a desirable fashion, he is accused of being sexist. Women need to stop complaining about the results that they are actually seeking. They use sex to manipulate men and on the other had use it to shame men. Grow up women!
It's not about being attractive, everyone wants to be thought of as attractive, and everyone strives to be attractive, but everyone wants to be treated with respect and equality. Women are no different.
@edinburgh96 Of course we want to look attractive, everyone does. you do too! why else would you put products in your hair and wear clothes you think makes you look attractive. but just because of that we don't want people to think that we don't have a voice or an opinion. all we're asking for is to be treated equal. and what they're saying in this video is that a woman can't become president solely because she's a woman! not because she uses her looks to manipulate people or her opinion.
@edinburgh96 A woman dresses up for herself. To make herself feel good. Men just happen to think it looks nice, too. And that's fine. What isn't fine is when how a woman looks becomes her worth.
@edinburgh96 Maybe these types of women wear makeup because they want to look lovely...but the "compliments" they receive are those that objectify them like objects. You might want to wear a nice shirt, but would you want someone saying quasi-violent things to you for it?
"i'd fuck your ass" isn't a compliment, it's telling someone you only care about their looks (people who want to look good havne' necessarily said they ONLY care about looks, or are TRYING to get a date)
Granted Sexism is a terrible plague on today's soceity though it seems as though most of these clips came from Fox News to which I must simply ask... is anyone suprised? Fox News is perhaps the most racist, sexist, extremist in matters both politcal and religious mainstream media channel out there. They want the world to be stuck in the 1950's for crying out loud. To hear them talk trash about a candidate, who was both female and a democrat, is almost expected of them.
Men experience far more sexism in the USA and the West than do women. Yet people have their heads stuck in the sand and they cannot even see it. People just believe what they are told.....which is that it is women are always the victims of sexism. People never questions this, they just believe all the lies that they are fed. If a man comments on a woman's appearance, THAT IS NOT SEXIST.
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haha what women dont get is that, men will NEVER treat them equaly because most women cant fight, women are so unworthy that men dont even consider to fight them, because women are inferior to men? yes - plus alot of girls love to be ordered around n commanded n dominated and have u seen girls n their crushes on celebrities,... how the fuck can u take a women seriously - women need to change if they want to be equal, they dont even know what honour is - they act like objects n are very INSECURE
OMG, how dumb this "Sexism" thing is !!!! Of course, every normal man is sexist !!! How would people reproduce, how would natural selection proceed then ? So, let's favor "nerds" - that will politely ask a girl "Please, can I have a sex?" She'd say: fuck off, you dirty sexist - and he'll just say: "Sorry for offending you, you have rights for self dignity, can I wash dishes at the meantime". :-) You, stupid antisexists, will get what you're asking
@DarkprinX2500 I'm pretty sure that truth is somewhere in between between the two. Some deviations are allowed in each direction, but the worst case is when a man becomes a woman
Look *sighs* in God's infinate wisdom BOTH mrn and women by nature are animals. You, male or female, see the oppisate sex (straight or gay) that attracts you youre going to to get (to put it nicely) hot under the callure. So big fuck whoop that us (yes im a guy) men arent as filtered as you women.
Saying a woman looks attractive shouldn't be considered sexist.Women talk about men being attractive all the time.Some women are more concerned with sexual attraction than emotional attraction.Heck, some women say other women look extremely attractive and that they'd like to fuck them.Plus, aren't one of the feminist goals is that we should be able to be sexual and attractive without being called sluts?That we should be able to want to attract men?
@DoopMaster3000 It's sexist because women continue to not be taken seriously for their accomplishments, and instead are judged by whether or not they're fuckable. You can't say that this happens to men at the same rate as with women, because that simply is not the case.
@DoopMaster3000 It's sexist because women continue to not be taken seriously for their accomplishments, and instead are judged by whether or not they're fuckable. You can't say that this happens to men at the same rate as with women, because that simply is not the case.
@DoopMaster3000 i think you are right about giving a woman a compliment shouldn't be considered sexist. i mean everybody loves to get compliments man or woman! but it's unfair when women are excluded from things, like politics, solely for being women. like you see in this video a lot of the critisism on hilary clinton has to do with her being a woman, it doesn't say anything about her political views etc. and isn't that what a debat should be about? that would happen if she were a man..
How can a normal male, of sound health and normal bowel function, hold in his shit until he finds a toilet? Simple. He knows his nature and builds toilets and makes toiletries. He knows shit smells bad.
But you're so right. Shit is natural! Why is he so concerned with correctness?! Aren't his bowels functioning properly?! People shit. Just go here on the street!
WTF are women still complaining about? You got your rights...oh .77 to a dollar my ass. And now these same women demand extra privaleges. Its annoying that this is even happening. Please can we just calm the fuck down! ahahah
Wow, I didn't even pay attention to this video because I was so annoyed by the first quote. Now that I've watched it, I've realized politicians and news people are the most boring assholes on the face of the planet, even when they're being controversial.
That first quote is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Maybe I missed the point, but what's stereotyping about a doctor saying whether you are a female or a male. So, when a women calls me a man or a guy, I should stand up and call her out for mentioning I have a dick? I'm really starting to understand misanthropy at this point in my life...
Sometimes I wish I was a guy.
MegaWinnieGirl 2 days ago
So in a nut shell, girls have to "look girl" to be of any "value" in this world and guys can look however.
gingerisevil02 4 days ago
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Men in front of other men: "Hey Faggot, nice shoes! Did you get those from a dumpster behind Planned Parenthood? HAHA! You suck dude!"
Men by themselves: "Man, those guys are really cool."
Women in front of other women: "OMG Kelly I love your dress! You look so pretty today."
Women by themselves: "What an ugly bitch. I hope she gets fat, I should fuck her boyfriend."
amayagab 1 week ago
I always dream of my Genie is what I meant to say but men are all dogs right? :(
ftwonminez 2 weeks ago
This is dumb. Everyone needs to watch the video "It's only sexist when men do it" on the related to the right if you WANT TO SEE REAL SEXISM GOING ON IN OUR WORLD.
IAmMichaelMyers 3 weeks ago
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Feminism is a joke now because they do not want equality they want special treatment
831tinylocs 1 month ago
That's right! He said it he will get into trouble for this... How does sexism treat men? With contempt. Women will never get men to take them seriously with this sexism shit they will joke and laugh about it because sexism is a joke. You can't tell a person that they are not allowed to say this or that women do that crap to each other you can't treat a man like a woman that is your first mistake the other thing that sexism does is use litigation to punish a man that is your second mistake LOSERS
shadowfighting88 1 month ago in playlist sexism in the media
Look at Germany's Merkel, one of the strongest leaders in the world, if not THE strongest.
cato8383 1 month ago
Yinz need to calm down. Men built us this country. We should be respectful of their nice comments, like when a guy says "nice rack", why the fuck are you having a shit fit over how you're treated so damn horribly? He complimented you! Say thank you for once god damnit!
P.S. Not all of us women are ugly flat feminists:D
ilikefood70 1 month ago
oh, shut the fuck up. when men start winning child custody cases, cant lose half their shit to some greedy bitch, and stop getting demonized by the media you can talk.
women get FAR more than they deserve, and the heterosexual relationship is destroyed by you fucking idiot feminists. please die.
dabaron332 1 month ago
@dabaron332 The only reason men are the ones losing out to gold diggers is because they're the ones who are allowed to be rich.
Mirani2 1 week ago
Wow, if some one said something like that on the Canadian news, they'd be fired.
brixton92 1 month ago
Well if someone would say stuff like this in Finnish television, he would be fired. (refering to this first guy with several comments)
Allthough I have to say that women and fashion industry are maybe even more to blame on this.
astmapiippu 1 month ago
This def exists in the US media and its even worse in some parts of the repressed, controlling Muslim and Christian communities
pbuotte 1 month ago
Shut up ladies and get your pretty little asses in the kitchen.
Phalanx3800 1 month ago
@Phalanx3800 Really? Go away. Really. Just because you feel threatened doesn't mean you can use lines like that to try and control women. Sorry more and more of us are finally standing up, and trust me, we won't be back in the kitchen anytime soon. Grow up.
rocktheredsioux 1 month ago in playlist sexism in the media 5
@rocktheredsioux you must be mad bro?
How about you get over yourself and realize that women are already equal to men under the law. Feminism is a dead issue, and you sound like some idiot college kid who just has a lady boner for hating men. Enjoy the loneliness bulldyke.
Phalanx3800 1 month ago
@Phalanx3800 Lol you must be mad bro. You're saying we're equal but then you're resorting to calling me dyke? Right. Also, we're equal under the law because the equal rights amendment was passed right? Lol, it wasn't. So no, feminism isn't dead. Feminism is not about hating men, either. Have I used sexist comments against you? No. Hmm, yet you've used them. Read up, kid. There's lots of real information to learn if you actually learn it from legitimate places. =\.
rocktheredsioux 1 month ago 2
Sexism is nothing more than displeasure in a Man's behaviour. It has the added bonus of causing enmity between the sexes. Sexism's only hope lies in creating chaos and hate. Women are happy to spend hours shopping to look good and buying expensive cosmetics to apply on their faces, then get offended when they are complimented...
Women constantly compete with each other, so I do not see why men have to be blamed for women having to look good. Sexism's power lies in manipulating MANS thinking...
shadowfighting88 1 month ago in playlist sexism in the media
@shadowfighting88
As a girl, I take offense to your generalization. I am NOT happy to spend hours shopping to look good. I am NOT happy to buy expensive cosmetics, never mind even WEARING them.
And I also don't get offended when I'm complimented. I appreciate being told that I'm pretty or beautiful. Not that I'm hot or sexy. What I don't appreciate it is when I'm objectified and told that nothing but my appearance matters.
When I dress up, it's for myself. No one else.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago 2
@taekwondolvr The problem is that "girls" talk in strange ways they first deny then they admit. Youre happy to be told your pretty or beautiful but not hot or sexy so is it the choice in words or whether it is a female or male saying it. Or what you are really offended about is Etiquette or class. These have nothing to do with sexism it is just a
uncouth choice of words. Who even said that only appearance matters if a woman has no personality then men will leave you crying:)
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 Not necessarily. Plus, I'm not necessarily happy to be complimented based on appearance. I'd much rather be told that I'm a great friend or something else that doesn't have to do with the way I look. As for your pseudo-question, it's the word choice. I don't care who says it. A compliment is a compliment, but some are more degrading than others. Does that make sense? No one says appearance is the only thing that matters, but looking at the media, it's sure as hell implied.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr It's unfortunate but girls/women will always be judged by their looks and you can blame nature for that. If women were all ugly then you would all be judged equally same as if they were all pretty (hence the burka). Men look for beauty initially because they are visual (nature) however that does not mean that is all that matters, as sexism implies.
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88
It's not necessarily nature's fault. If you look at the video, notice how all they comment on is how a female politician looks- not the policies she supports. That's not nature. Nature would be to take note of how any other person looks. It's not what causes women to be defined and judged only by how pretty and young they look.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr uuhhhmmmm! No Its nature:) I just explained that men are visual... Therefore they "will" comment on a woman's looks and women also comment on a woman's looks so how is that sexist? Do you really believe that anyone believes or cares about the policies of a politician? It always and will be "nature" that causes
men to desire beauty:)
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 I never said nature is completely innocent. Yes, people will comment on how other people look. That in itself is natural. Everyone does it, and it's not sexism. You seem to be misunderstanding my point. My point is that it's sexism when a woman is defined by her beauty. Furthermore, people better care about the policies of a politician- they run our country. Oh wait, maybe that's why we have so many IDIOTS in the government.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr It's not that people don't care about policies it's that politicians can never deliver they start off with good intention then get absorbed by the system so that is why politics is BULLSHIT:| Anyway sexism is some made up word that tries to explain why women are treated differently its laughable because by nature woman ARE the weaker sex and the weak survive because the strong allow them to. The fact that men love women is never mentioned but that again is nature:}
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 That's true, but the people have a right to know what policies a politician stands for. After all, voters should be voting based on who has the best policies- not who looks pretty. And it's only the women who get commented on solely based on their appearance. Also, if a woman dares to speak out, she's labelled as a 'bitch'. That's not okay.
All words are made up. Sexism included. But sexism is real. Women are not naturally weaker. I've taken down guys. It's not hard.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 (continued from last post) Yes, women are physically smaller, but we're not inherently weaker than men. It's just made out to be that way. Women are just as capable as men. And that's why sexism is a problem.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr Women are the weaker sex. The reason that women even feel they
are near men physically is because men are gentle with women. Due to many reasons but usually lust/love is the main reason. Because I am a man I see the way a guys behavior changes when he is around girls/women he becomes more respectful and interested in what they say.Women therefore develop egos and believe the most stupid shit imaginable because guys are horny and will just agree with her. Introducing Blonde Jokes:)
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 Please stop making generalizations. Some men are quite rough, even abusive, with women, and not all women want to be with men. And some women do believe the most stupid things-but that's called internalized misogyny. And why does that even happen? The media.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr Men are rough by NATURE and it only makes sense that once a man stops respecting a woman that they will be abused that is because MEN are the STRONGER sex and when they get angry a woman cannot defend herself:| PROVEN...
However I am not talking about "internalized misogyny" I am talking about ego's not the
"hatred of your own kind". Lastly you can not blame the media for everything some people are just not mature enough to be able to sort through all the rubble:)
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 Again with the generalizations. Not all men are rough by nature, and women can defend herself with training. And why should a man stop respecting a woman? There is absolutely no excuse for a human not respecting another human. It's quite difficult to dehumanize a person you have respect for, you know.
There's also this thing called a subliminal message that is in pretty much any ad and quite a few television programs/movies. It's not lack of maturity- anyone can fall for it.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr You just have to look at children the way that boys are tough an hurtful
and girls are gentle and caring that is NATURE in action. However they are then taught by their parents and society to behave themselves:} Even though a woman can defend themselves that does not mean that they are NOT weaker...There are too many reasons why a man would stop respecting a woman as you have probably read by now:| Why is your whole perception of reality been formed by the media?
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 Okay, no that's not true. I've met kind and gentle boys and horribly mean, nasty, hurtful girls. Are they unnatural? Of course not. Yes, their parents and society have an influence, and that's the point. Society's influence can be both good and bad, and their parents are just as influenced by society as they are.
List the reasons, please. I'd like to hear them. I can't think of any reason to not respect another human.
My whole perception of reality isn't formed by the media,
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr I'm taking about NATURE and you are talking about SOCIETY.You can not prove that those gentle and kind boys are not interested in you sexually. If a law was passed that they could do whatever they wanted without being jailed then be prepared to find for what you consider sacred. Nature screams out SEX and society screams out SHAME:) That is why stupid women always get raped because they thought he was such a nice guy.
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 : Let's not go into the nature vs. nurture debate anymore, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree there- I'll admit that I'm curious about your take on the hurtful girls, though.
Most 5 year olds aren't interested in sex, by the way. And as for the ones I'm friends with now, well, I can't prove that, but I'm pretty sure they aren't. And if they are, that sucks for them, because I am not and never will be interested in them that way.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 Also, since you say nature screams out 'sex', then explain asexuals, please. Society screams 'shame' to women. If a woman dare sleeps with a guy, she becomes labelled as a whore/slut. If a guy sleeps around, he's considered a player/stud. No one should have to be shamed for sexuality. However, raping another person is another matter. Rape is a terrible crime. It's a violation of human rights- a person's right to their own body. THAT is shameful. Sex is not.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr Sure asexuals just means there is a problem with their wiring.
Rape is a terrible crime again it is disrespect and hatred of women and its out there.
You know that men want sex and women want sex because it is NATURE that provokes us. However from that point onwards it becomes psychological that is where
emotions take over the genre is created:)
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 (continued) And way to victim blame. This is another example of sexism- rape culture.
Women don't ask to be raped. They don't want to be raped. It's not her fault that she got raped. Yes, maybe she thought he was nice. But really- who expects to be raped? Yes, maybe she let him buy her a drink. But did she ask him to spike her drink or force her into it or take no for yes? No. She didn't. It's not her fault.
Also, men get raped- not just women.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr That is why women have to remember that they ARE the weaker sex and when you are weak you better take a lot of friends with you.
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 You know what makes me sick? Victim blaming. Please stop. Women shouldn't have to be told that they must do x, y, z so that they don't get assaulted. Men should be told to not assault others.
Buddy systems don't really help, you know. Shit happens.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr There was this story I read about in the paper about a British man who after being warned about a shark was told not to go swimming in the water at a Cape Town, South Africa, beach. Anyway he ignored those warnings and had both legs bitten off and he could be heard screaming "please help me"... The moral of the story don't assume that something won't happen just because it shouldn't or you don't believe it will:)... "Victim blaming"? NO REALITY is different from your WISH list:)
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 Those are two different things. The man knew that the shark was there and knew that he would be attacked if he went swimming. He did anyway. That was a bad decision, but it still wasn't his fault. He didn't ask the shark to bite his legs off, did he? People don't expect to be raped every time she/he heads out his/her own front door. And when they do get raped, people say "oh, you shouldn't have done (insert whatever)." They didn't ask to be raped, did they? Of course not.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr No one expects anything that is true:) However rapists are like sharks some people will tell you that sharks are not interested in human meat yet time and time again they have taken humans... Is it accidental or deliberate? No one knows:| Anyway if you look at it that way you will find that they are two similar things and that was the point I was trying to make:|
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 Rape is never accidental. But other than that, your analogy does make some sense. I'll admit that. But I'm not arguing about the story- I'm arguing that victim blaming is a terrible thing. It's never the rape victim's fault because they never asked to be raped, contrary to what some people say.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr And sharks don't know better, it's not like a rapist automatiucally rapes.
Mirani2 1 week ago
@shadowfighting88 And you can stop putting smiley faces every time you attack my beliefs. My feelings won't be hurt, you know.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr I am not interested in what you think:} I am simply expressing my opinions and so you know when I am happy or serious. You are in control of your feelings and I am in control of mine:)
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 If you're not interested in what I think, then why continue? It's obvious that you think I'm an idiot, anyway. All you've done, really, is attack my beliefs, well, no, you've mostly attacked me. You've ignored about half of my comments. As far as I'm concerned, that means I've won.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr That's right you've won bye}
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr There was this story I read about in the paper about a British man who after being warned about a shark was told not to go swimming in the water at a Cape Town, South Africa, beach. Anyway he ignored those warnings and had both legs bitten off and he could be heard screaming "please help me"... The moral of the story don't assume that something won't happen just because it shouldn't or you don't believe it will:)... "Victim blaming"? NO REALITY is different from your WISH list:)
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 There is nothing wrong with being asexual. Head on over to AVEN and see. Nothing's physically 'wrong' with asexuals.
Rape is out there, but so is genocide. That doesn't mean they're good, either. Did you know that 1 in 6 women in the US has experienced rape? And that rape is glorified in at least some ads? AND that most people give advice on how to not get raped, and not to not rape.
(wouldn't let me post this on the other one)
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr There would be something wrong with being asexual if 100% percent of the population were:) The human species would not survive:| So therefore a few odds and ends shouldn't make much difference. However I never said rape is good I hate men who resort and if they ever raped anyone I know THEN watch out:| Lets move on:)
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 Resort? Resort to what? Please be more clear.
You're also contradicting yourself. You just said that there's something wrong with the wiring of asexuals. Now you're saying that nothing's wrong with them unless everyone were. Well, news flash, asexuals can (shockingly) have sex and children!
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr Resort to IT... If everyone had a lack of sexual interest in sex then they would not have SEX. The only reason that asexual"s would have sex is to PLEASE the person who WANTS sex does that make sense? There is NO contradiction:} Why do I continually have to explain the obvious to you are you retarded?
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 Contrary to your belief, the verb resort needs a DO in order to make sense. So no, it's not explaining the obvious. That also implies that men can't get sex otherwise- not true.
I know asexuals who would have sex to please their partner, and many who would only have sex to have kids. We're wired to survive. If that means doing icky things, they'd probably do those. Or nature would've given us asexual reproduction.
Again with attacking me. Ad hominem won't get you anywhere.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr Well you believe what you have to believe but I know that what you are saying would never work in reality.
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 How can you know? It's never been done.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr Great Logic! lets apply that to everything in life., I could never kill someone because I might have nightmares and your logic is "How can you Know It's never been done":(
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 There's a difference between my scenario and yours. Equality between women and men has NEVER existed, but murder has. We know the possible psychological effects of killing a person. We don't know the effects of equality because it has NEVER existed ANYWHERE.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr Sorry in order for YOUR scenario to exist you would have to MURDER
the Male population off or at least have them neutered. Because NO man will ever allow a
woman to put their heel on their head. You:( Are living in FANTASY land.
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 Um, no, not really. How hard is it to accept that another human being is just that- a capable human being. Women/feminists are NOT trying to put women in control. There are many male feminists. So no, men are not entirely against equality. Equality. Not matriarchy. You seem to be missing the point.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr Well I believe women already have equality and if the employer decides to pay a woman less than a MAN then that does not mean equality does not exist.
Women tend to expect someone to do the right thing instead of demand it:)
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 See, that in itself isn't a problem, but women get paid less for the same job. That's the problem. That isn't equality. Objectification of women isn't equality. Rape culture and victim blame isn't equality. Lack of women in government/science isn't equality. Men trying to control women or make them seem less powerful isn't equality.
And news flash? Women ARE demanding rights. We have been for a long time. You know, only since the 1800s or so.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr Listen! The PROBLEM is that people are never satisfied Sexism is some made up word that is connected with the industrial revolution. However it is survival of the fittest in the real world you take what you get. Let's look at women they are always talking about how it's a man fault for this and for that (finger pointers) and
every time there is a debate women say that a man is being sexist. All women do among themselves is FIGHT but it is not called sexist is it? That's Distorted
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 Hm, white males seem to be pretty satisfied, from the looks of it. Notice how small of a group that is. Sexism is a made up word- but all words are. That doesn't mean it's not a problem. And honestly, it IS mostly men's fault because men have controlled the governments, and therefore the policies, for millenniums. Women can get along quite well, and those who are catty to other women suffer from internalized misogyny. And women debate all the time without using the sexist card
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr Whatever.... Good Luck.
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 There are women who do not do those things and it's not fair to call EVERY woman that just because some do it, and it's also not right to assume that all black haired people do something because most black haired people do it, etc, etc, etc
Also, how is it sexism if they fight amongst themselves? They aren't necessarily fighting each other because they are women, but because they are angry about something.
Mirani2 1 week ago
@shadowfighting88 Um, maybe so many people expect the right thing and don't demand it is because when they try to demand it they get the kind of treatment you are dishing out.
Mirani2 1 week ago
@shadowfighting88 There are many men who would, but I agree it should not happne. No one is putting a heel on your head just by asking to be treated fairly, except if you try to stop the person, and I would guess that any person being stopped from being treated fairly would do the same.
Mirani2 1 week ago
@taekwondolvr No one is wired any certain way. People have souls, not wires.
Mirani2 1 week ago
@shadowfighting88 But NOT ALL women are weak. It;s not like the whole sex on average is going out.
Mirani2 1 week ago
@taekwondolvr WTF? Victim blame? I wrote That it was nature that provokes men and women to have sex not rape. You are so busy looking for holes that you continually fall into the ones that you are creating... Anyway if you checked all responses you will find that I have answered all you questions:) Move on and stop annoying me...
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 That's true. But then you went on to essentially say it was the woman's fault. That, my dear, is victim blaming.
And actually, you haven't. You never gave me reasons to stop respecting another person, you never answered my post where I pointed out that there are women leading the government and men can only offer perspective, and of course, when you just went 'blah blah blah'.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr I did answer it and I could not be bothered having to explain things to you like a little child.
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 No, you simply said that there were many. That's not an answer, considering that I asked you for specifics.
In case you haven't noticed, you're the one acting childishly by merely insulting me. And want to know what's sad? I'm used to being dismissed the way you are right now because I'm a woman. I'm sorry you can't accept that for society to improve, equality must occur. Particularly for a democracy/republic, where every person should have a voice.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr That's true however that voice must hold some TRUTH... Hahaha You are so used to being dismissed have you ever wondered why that is?
I'll give you a hint and it's got nothing to do with being a woman Blah is your first clue. lol
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 Hm, I doubt it.
Actually, I know why I've been dismissed. There's no way /you/ would know my experiences, stranger. So stop pretending you do.
And having the view of 'women do nothing but nag' is also sexist, by the way. Which seems to be your implication.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago 3
@taekwondolvr I thought you said "women debate all the time without bringing up the sexist card" Like I said at the very beginning of the argument The problem is that "girls" talk in strange ways they first deny then they admit. You are clearly frustrated and I thought I was talking with someone else... Goodbye:(
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 We're debating about sexism. Of course I'm going to mention it.
As a girl who does debate, I have never brought up the argument of 'you're sexist'. Never.
Unless, of course, we were debating about sexism, like we are now.
Also, there's a difference between being frustrated and being disappointed that you've completely bought male privilege.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago 5
@taekwondolvr at the end of da day a bitchez place in inda kitchen yeah an ironin an all dat shit wear az all us blokezg'waan out an urn dollar so yooz whores can go shoppin an suk cok
langazboomboom 2 weeks ago
@shadowfighting88 How does that make her stupid? HE might have been a really convincing guy. How do you know?
and many "nice people" want sex, just not rough, violent forced sex.
And many little boys, BY NATURE, DO like "girly" things. If it's nature, how come so many people are beaten up for being "sissies"? they wouldnt' risk being beaten up if they could choose it, if it weren't natural.
Mirani2 1 week ago
@shadowfighting88 (continued) but it's certainly affected by it. The problem is, things like media literacy, which prevents the warping of reality by the media, isn't taught. Like it or not, the media both reflects and perpetuates societal values. This includes the objectification of women, racism, homophobia, etc. It can also permeate good values, of course, but the promotion of negative values is the problem.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr BLAH BLAH BLAH... The issues you are talking about have been in existence for thousands of years how do you explain that? Sure the media uses certain images for effect but they cannot provoke anything that is not already in motion:| We are living in chaos you want a linear solution for the equality of women it is impossible. First remove chaos then you have a chance. Until then live your life stop judging others, especially when you are so out of touch with nature:}
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 Way to ignore my arguments and attack me instead. That's a logical fallacy, you know.
Pretty much every society in human history has been patriarchal. Including today's. And this time, you did agree with my point, by the way. The media reflects society's ideals. And some of society's ideals are, frankly, outdated.
I'd still like answers to my questions, by the way.
As for the chaos, it's never going to go away. But the African Americans got somewhere, so can women.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr Why has it been patriarchal? What can women offer that is not already established? What can women do that would be different? It's easy to attack but much harder to establish. Women who complain about men are just sand kickers:)
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 Patriarchal because it's run and controlled by men. If you look at statistics, men are in control of the US government and make most of the money, even though most of the workforce and half the US is female. Maybe we can't offer anything different, but at least we are able to give our perspective. What can any minority offer that's different besides a different perspective? Nothing, really, because we're all people. That's no reason to stop equality from happening.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr So it's run and controlled by men:| Who is the stronger of the species?
Do we let the weak run the world? Again who is the stronger of the species? You yourself even stated that women have nothing to offer except perspective don't you think you already got that? Thanks for finally proving that sexism is just some made up word:) Peace out.
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 Firstly, there are countries out there where women run the government. Guess what? They're doing great. Women and men are not separate species, and neither is stronger.
Men have nothing to offer but perspective, either, yet they run everything. We, as women, have our perspective, but our perspective is ignored. So no, we don't have that already. So no, sexism has not been proved to be just some made up word.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr NO! there is no countries out there that is doing great, otherwise we would pack our bags and BE there:) So if women have nothing to offer why change for no benefit?
Those WOMEN deserve every name they are called WHY????
Because they just want to RULE the WORLD.
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 Moving countries is pretty extreme. People do live in those nations, though, and they're doing quite well. They're not collapsing, anyway. But I mean, if things continue this way, and if I get enough money(unlikely because of DISCRIMINATION against women) I'd sure as HELL move.
Women don't want to rule the world. We just want equality. Being a true feminist means you want equal rights for women. So the point is equality, not matriarchy.
You still ignored a lot off stuff.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr Also, I could call men a lot of terrible things. But would I? No. Because even though patriarchy is oppressive, I can rise above people like you and not badmouth them.
Humans don't deserve name calling. Humans don't deserve disrespect.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr you shoudn't call men terrible things because only some men are guilty, not others.
Mirani2 1 week ago
@taekwondolvr Not all woman want equality, some do want superiority, but, yes, REAL women want equality.
Mirani2 1 week ago
@shadowfighting88 Um, then how come whites run the world? Are whites stronger than blacks?
Mirani2 1 week ago
@shadowfighting88 No one says they can offer anything different. We;re not saying women should be allowed to run the world BECAUSE they are women. We're saying that disallowing a person to rule the world becuase of something that doesn't have anything to do with how they rule (as evidenced by the fact that many women do as well as men) is wrong.
Mirani2 1 week ago
@taekwondolvr Actually, many societies have been matriarchal or neutral, its history which eliminated stories of those societies.
Mirani2 1 week ago
@shadowfighting88 Um, i've seen a ton of boys who DONT like trucks and tough stuff and tons of girls who do, from birth. My brother liked pink and I liked trucks, and other stuff.
Mirani2 1 week ago
@shadowfighting88 There are many women who can defend themselves against men, many women who are stronger. And it's not nature, because many societies, like the Tuaregs in Africa, teach that men are WEAKER. And we cause a lot of that, through how we chooose to feed our kids.
Mirani2 1 week ago
@shadowfighting88 Um, if you agree with someone because you are horny, you are lying to them and that is extremely unfiar and hurtful and disrespectful. To develop an "ego" from it is much less of an immoral thing to do.
How would you like to know that someone isn't caring about what you say, but for something else (whether or NOT it is sex, or food, or your money, or anything)? You wouldnt like it.
Mirani2 1 week ago
@taekwondolvr Not all woman are smaller, so "women are smaller", I assume it is meaning "all women are smaller", is not true
Mirani2 1 week ago
@shadowfighting88 Weak doesn't explain why they are treated differently because they are treated differently even when it has nothing to do with weakness or strength.
Also, why are women who are strong treated like they are weaker? there is no excuse or answer for that
Mirani2 1 week ago
@shadowfighting88 No, NOT all men are visual, That;s your culture. some men marry ugly women, how do you explain that?
Mirani2 1 week ago
@taekwondolvr Besides, if nature were that uncontrollable there would be a LOT more robberies.
Mirani2 1 week ago
@shadowfighting88 Furthermore (sorry for double posting) the burka is a religious garment. It has nothing to do with how ugly or pretty a woman is. Please do your research. Thanks.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr Oooohhhhhh! Sorry! Okay then here it is..... "In Islam, the words of God are that the women should be modest and follow the principle of clothing. She should cover her beauty. At home or among family or in front of her husband there is no need to wear the Muslim headscarf." Maybe you should do your research:)
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 See, you never refuted my argument. The burka is a religious garment.
So therefore, I have done my research. Furthermore, religious texts should not be interpreted literally. After all, "ugly" women wear the burka, and so do "pretty" women. It's not a matter of how pretty or ugly a woman is, she wears it anyway because it's a religious thing.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr Wrong! I did refute your argument...My argument was about equality I was suggesting that if everyone looked the same then everyone would be treated equally:) You missed the point. The purpose of the burka in Islam is used to cover up a woman beauty and yes "it"s a religious thing" So you will probably say"I am agreeing with you" because it seems you are looking for points in this argument:| Furthermore just because you say it "should not" doesn't mean it won't be:}
shadowfighting88 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 If everyone looked the same, some people would still wear the burka. And if everyone looked the same, it'd be a shame. Humans are beautiful, but it's the differences that make it so.
I never said that you were agreeing with me. I realize we're debating here, and if we agreed that'd be rather pointless. And yes, I realize that there are people who interpret religious texts literally. But that doesn't make everything they say 100% true.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@shadowfighting88 If men are all visual how come many men marry ugly women? Do you know how many men ARE NOT stereotypically male, by YOUR definition of masculine?
If it were natural, then those who act "feminine"- to the point of being beaten and bullied- wouldnt be doing so, if their nature were to be more "masculine". What kind of kid CHOOSES to act like a "sissy" even though he might get beaten up?
Mirani2 1 week ago
@Mirani2 Men choose to marry women with "personalities" over women with looks that is why there are so many men marrying ugly women and also men choose to marry plain women because they feel that they plain women will not cheat. Yeh I know Go figure... hahaha.
shadowfighting88 1 week ago
@shadowfighting88 Yes, I know many men with ugly wives, and so do you, you have seen them. Furthermore, what makes you think people think ugly people cheat less?
Mirani2 1 week ago
@Mirani2 Not really sure! Probably because they are not attractive. Desperation usually makes up for that So that theory is gets proven incorrect ;)
shadowfighting88 1 week ago
@shadowfighting88 Many of the women who shop for the makeup are not the ones who don't like compliments. Many women like compliments, and many don't shop for makeup. Use your common sense.
Besides, most of these women try to look good because of TV, not men. Possibly patriarchy, but not all men.
And maybe it's because theyre afriad they aren't getting a true compliment but are being judged on how they look, since some people get that treatment in their lives.
Mirani2 1 week ago
Why...I'm not surprised that 99% of the clips are from FOX news? I never seen a News channel full of uneducated, racist, sexist, assholes and the people that they have on are the same! I don't understand how this channel is called news??
evilharp86 1 month ago
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Compare feminism with the video called "What Women Want is Worship".
vincent15641 2 months ago
sexism is retarded. u were made from both a man and a woman....so wht is there to be sexist about?
silentswan12 2 months ago
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Women dont think men are beautiful in their own magestic way? I still say "F" her like a porn star but treat her like a princess always! I DREAM of Jeanie!
james041784 2 months ago
I know not all men feel this way, but jeez, the ones that were shown were such asses!
jtcivilwar1861 2 months ago
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I think just the opposite is happening now in media. Men are being treated like knuckle dragging, dim witted Neanderthals; As compared to the remarkably clever, intelligent and more successful female co-actresses
JesusWasAnAsshole 2 months ago
"...take out the garbage!"?? Oh, wait a sec. I'll take you outside!!!!
dontMindmysayingso 2 months ago
Notice that none of these comments were about Clinton's views/beliefs, they were about her identity as a women.
cottonwotton 2 months ago 3
For the love of Pete, just check out how the majority of the worlds female population lives compared to your life... And then QUIT BITCHING. Men worked to damn hard to build this country FOR YOU, to have to listen to whining about how you're treated unfairly. I'm sorry but you were born the most desirable thing on the world to a man, and like everything else, that's not good enough? Get over yourselves.
darththc 2 months ago
@darththc so the only reason we women are born is so we can be desirable for men? that's what you think?! get over YOURself! I bet you have a girlfriend!
Carmora101 2 months ago
@darththc Actually, the PEOPLE made this country because the PEOPLE didn't like Britain's taxes. Women helped in the Revolution the ways they could, which, honestly, weren't many. And why? Because of the patriarchy that existed at the time.
And notice how you say "the most desirable thing". Thing. Women are not things. We are people. And that, my dear, is why we have a long ways to go. Yes, we are in better shape than some places, but the system is highly unfair.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago 2
Seriously? Women are the most coddled, pampered, and protect creatures in america. They don't want equality, they want to expand the rediculous list of double standards they already enjoy. And to any lady that wants to rail against me, know that I have a mother, mother in law, sister, sister in law, aunts, a wonderful wife and two beautiful daughters, none of whom disagree when I point out the they enjoy greater protection under the law, more specialized healthcare. Men built this world FOR YOU.
darththc 2 months ago
WHO IS THE MSNBC WOMAN AT 1:24 WHOO GORGEOUS
MrReman23 3 months ago
lmao perve reporter
MrReman23 3 months ago
If women don't want men to comment on their looks or notice their looks then women should stop wearing lipstick, makeup, high heels, and perfume. All of these are worn by women to enhance their sexual attractiveness. Yet, if a man dares looks at a women in a desirable fashion, he is accused of being sexist. Women need to stop complaining about the results that they are actually seeking. They use sex to manipulate men and on the other had use it to shame men. Grow up women!
edinburgh96 3 months ago
@edinburgh96
It's not about being attractive, everyone wants to be thought of as attractive, and everyone strives to be attractive, but everyone wants to be treated with respect and equality. Women are no different.
NicoleMichellePea 2 months ago
@edinburgh96 Of course we want to look attractive, everyone does. you do too! why else would you put products in your hair and wear clothes you think makes you look attractive. but just because of that we don't want people to think that we don't have a voice or an opinion. all we're asking for is to be treated equal. and what they're saying in this video is that a woman can't become president solely because she's a woman! not because she uses her looks to manipulate people or her opinion.
Carmora101 2 months ago
@edinburgh96 A woman dresses up for herself. To make herself feel good. Men just happen to think it looks nice, too. And that's fine. What isn't fine is when how a woman looks becomes her worth.
taekwondolvr 1 month ago
@taekwondolvr amen to everything you said.
rocktheredsioux 1 month ago
@edinburgh96 Maybe these types of women wear makeup because they want to look lovely...but the "compliments" they receive are those that objectify them like objects. You might want to wear a nice shirt, but would you want someone saying quasi-violent things to you for it?
"i'd fuck your ass" isn't a compliment, it's telling someone you only care about their looks (people who want to look good havne' necessarily said they ONLY care about looks, or are TRYING to get a date)
Mirani2 1 week ago
Granted Sexism is a terrible plague on today's soceity though it seems as though most of these clips came from Fox News to which I must simply ask... is anyone suprised? Fox News is perhaps the most racist, sexist, extremist in matters both politcal and religious mainstream media channel out there. They want the world to be stuck in the 1950's for crying out loud. To hear them talk trash about a candidate, who was both female and a democrat, is almost expected of them.
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edinburgh96 3 months ago
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Men experience far more sexism in the USA and the West than do women. Yet people have their heads stuck in the sand and they cannot even see it. People just believe what they are told.....which is that it is women are always the victims of sexism. People never questions this, they just believe all the lies that they are fed. If a man comments on a woman's appearance, THAT IS NOT SEXIST.
edinburgh96 3 months ago
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haha what women dont get is that, men will NEVER treat them equaly because most women cant fight, women are so unworthy that men dont even consider to fight them, because women are inferior to men? yes - plus alot of girls love to be ordered around n commanded n dominated and have u seen girls n their crushes on celebrities,... how the fuck can u take a women seriously - women need to change if they want to be equal, they dont even know what honour is - they act like objects n are very INSECURE
GRANDMASTERKANE 4 months ago
@GRANDMASTERKANE hmmm... i bet you have a girlfriend, don't you?
Carmora101 2 months ago
OMG, how dumb this "Sexism" thing is !!!! Of course, every normal man is sexist !!! How would people reproduce, how would natural selection proceed then ? So, let's favor "nerds" - that will politely ask a girl "Please, can I have a sex?" She'd say: fuck off, you dirty sexist - and he'll just say: "Sorry for offending you, you have rights for self dignity, can I wash dishes at the meantime". :-) You, stupid antisexists, will get what you're asking
valgez1 4 months ago
@valgez1 im pretty sure that most women desire men that are genuine.. and caring.. not sexist punks..
DarkprinX2500 3 months ago 2
@DarkprinX2500 I'm pretty sure that truth is somewhere in between between the two. Some deviations are allowed in each direction, but the worst case is when a man becomes a woman
valgez1 3 months ago
@valgez1 We're not talking about hating sex, we're talking about peopel who want sex for the wrong reasons, you wanker. Go fuck your auntie.
Mirani2 1 week ago
@Mirani2 :-))) "Sex for the wrong reason" - ? Would you care to elaborate ?
valgez1 1 week ago
@valgez1 If you need this elaborated you are a sick person.
Mirani2 1 week ago
@Mirani2 Well, if you can't elaborate, then, at least, explain what reason you mean by saying "Sex for the wrong reason". :-)
valgez1 1 week ago
Look *sighs* in God's infinate wisdom BOTH mrn and women by nature are animals. You, male or female, see the oppisate sex (straight or gay) that attracts you youre going to to get (to put it nicely) hot under the callure. So big fuck whoop that us (yes im a guy) men arent as filtered as you women.
samus7321 4 months ago
@samus7321 Filtered? What does that even mean? And what does sexual attraction have to do with NOT TREATING WOMEN WITH RESPECT??
m3rmaidbones 4 months ago
However, I can't really argue with anything else in that video.
DoopMaster3000 4 months ago
Saying a woman looks attractive shouldn't be considered sexist.Women talk about men being attractive all the time.Some women are more concerned with sexual attraction than emotional attraction.Heck, some women say other women look extremely attractive and that they'd like to fuck them.Plus, aren't one of the feminist goals is that we should be able to be sexual and attractive without being called sluts?That we should be able to want to attract men?
DoopMaster3000 4 months ago
@DoopMaster3000 It's sexist because women continue to not be taken seriously for their accomplishments, and instead are judged by whether or not they're fuckable. You can't say that this happens to men at the same rate as with women, because that simply is not the case.
m3rmaidbones 4 months ago
@DoopMaster3000 It's sexist because women continue to not be taken seriously for their accomplishments, and instead are judged by whether or not they're fuckable. You can't say that this happens to men at the same rate as with women, because that simply is not the case.
m3rmaidbones 4 months ago
@DoopMaster3000 i think you are right about giving a woman a compliment shouldn't be considered sexist. i mean everybody loves to get compliments man or woman! but it's unfair when women are excluded from things, like politics, solely for being women. like you see in this video a lot of the critisism on hilary clinton has to do with her being a woman, it doesn't say anything about her political views etc. and isn't that what a debat should be about? that would happen if she were a man..
Carmora101 2 months ago
wtf this isn't even sexist..
sunkisseddx3 4 months ago
@sunkisseddx3 Are you fucking deaf?
m3rmaidbones 4 months ago
@sunkisseddx3 Oh wait I already know the answer, you're already sexist yourself so you're blind to discrimination towards women.
m3rmaidbones 4 months ago
@sunkisseddx3 I think they're saying it's sexist because most of them are just objectifying women for their looks.
RandomKPluver 3 months ago
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mateirau 3 months ago
How is that sexist ? He says they look good ...
ghostpwnz 4 months ago
@valgez1
How can a normal male, of sound health and normal bowel function, hold in his shit until he finds a toilet? Simple. He knows his nature and builds toilets and makes toiletries. He knows shit smells bad.
But you're so right. Shit is natural! Why is he so concerned with correctness?! Aren't his bowels functioning properly?! People shit. Just go here on the street!
taicleis 4 months ago
WTF are women still complaining about? You got your rights...oh .77 to a dollar my ass. And now these same women demand extra privaleges. Its annoying that this is even happening. Please can we just calm the fuck down! ahahah
Dannyxlz 4 months ago
@Dannyxlz This is like saying racism doesn't exist anymore. Just... no.
m3rmaidbones 4 months ago
@m3rmaidbones Well that doesnt change the fact that rasicm shouldnt exist.
Dannyxlz 4 months ago
Damn comments, they're all so long to read
mimikawaii7386 4 months ago 22
this video was a good laugh. thank you. :D
DonkeyKong96 5 months ago
Wow, I didn't even pay attention to this video because I was so annoyed by the first quote. Now that I've watched it, I've realized politicians and news people are the most boring assholes on the face of the planet, even when they're being controversial.
MotherNikita 5 months ago
That first quote is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Maybe I missed the point, but what's stereotyping about a doctor saying whether you are a female or a male. So, when a women calls me a man or a guy, I should stand up and call her out for mentioning I have a dick? I'm really starting to understand misanthropy at this point in my life...
MotherNikita 5 months ago