What happened to the torture scene? Ping orders her to be tortured, she says she can resist no more, but nobody even touches her. She has no reason to kill herself, this is absolutely horrendous staging. It's too bad because she is perfect as Liu.
Love Ricciarelli's Liu brings a vulnerability to the role..The ending is a bit predicatable but following Puccini's death it was a thankless task for Alfano.At it's premier the opera ended at Liu's death as this was where Puccini had more or less completed it to..The Audience left in silence with only one shout of "Viva Puccini"..
I was once doing Turandot as a choir singer. A mega production in sport hall. Stage 50m x 100m amazing......
We were rehearsing in a huge hall.... just concrete and steel........ cold and empty..... no atmosphere at all..... and then this scene came and at the end when we picked up Liu like in a funeral I could not surpress my tears..... Amazing music.... amazing scene.....
I think I like the role of Liu better than Turandot. Turandot is just a bunch of screaming and cold vocal performance. Liu is graceful with lots of legato and artistry.
Las consagradas de antes, que son verdaderos iconos, que crearon escuela y tradicion como la Callas, la Tebaldi, Caballé, Richiarelli, etc. pero ahora tambien hay muy buenas sopranos,
como Angela Giorghiu, Rene Fleming, Ana Netrebko, April Milo, Kiri Te Kanawa,
Ana Maria Martinez, a mi megustan todas las que cantan bien.
I felt the exact same thing after seeing it for the first time- but an interesting fact, that can shed some light on the weird storyline, is that Puccini died right after finishing her death scene.. Who knows how he whould have done it.
The happy ending was conceived before Puccini died
Well, the key does not lie with Puccini or his libretist being callous to Liu, but with a misconception that most have.
Turandot and Calaf are No-Real-Life-People but the all consuming Yin Yan symbols that will do anything in their eternal take-no-prisoners war for dominance over one another and occasionally -maybe- love for each other.
This explains Calaf's rather cold and definitely belated reaction to Liu's death and Turandot's bloody habits.
@CONTESTAR - In a way, I think you are correct, Contestar - but remember, by the time we got to this point in the Opera, Puccini had already died and Franco Alfano had taken over writing the ending. Who knows what would have been the end if Puccini could have finished it? Perhaps Calaf and Liu would have ended up together with Turandot's head on a spike...
@DFWBrysco It's true that Puccini didn't finish Turandot, but he did write through Puccini's death aria. It's clear she was going to die and the Calaf and Turandot were going to end up together. That said, he did not write the final versions of the following duet or chorus, nor did he have the opportunity to revise the opera (as he often did), so he might at least have made the final pairing more dramatically viable.
I don't think it is a happy ending. Calaf turns out to be a thoughtless selfish man and he and Turandot revel in their lust over Liu's corpse. She is the only positive character in the story. Puccini really was exploring depths of human depravity, especially with the 'happy' ending
Mmm, interesting comment. I was so used to the story, the idea expressed in your comment never entered my mind. Drat, now I won't be able to view this opera in the same, perhaps naive, way as before.
I much prefer her as Liu. Her recording of the title role was not a roaring success. This is in a league of its own. Moving on every level. Thank you for posting it.
Tan criticada, tan defenestrada por publico y crítica ... sin embargo cuanto dariamos por tener una soprano lirica de semejante calidad tímbrica, un conocimiento cabal del fraseo pucciniano y un italiano perfecto que deja en claro que se trata de su idioma natar ... todo fluye: pianissimos, mezzavoces y fortissimos ... vaya fiato ademas! Nos merecemos las japonesitas caprinas, con italiano defectuoso, inexpresivas y sin fiato que tenemos que escuchar hoy en los teatros.
i totally agree with you voluptuossa1234,i actually have (to me, a similar approach but at the same time quite different)...u c, many people do the same with GOD!i did one thing wrong today, i will do the opposite tomorrow so i could win more points...this is the best way to worship GOD...oh no, u people dont know how to worship GOD!etc...simply:BE TRUE,CHERISH BEAUTY,LIVE BY IT AND TO IT!technique is definitely imp, yet it must come from the heart, not the exaggerated too particular analysis
Some people mix up their "non professional" personal taste with professionalism.
Ricciarelli's interpretation is one of the best renditions of Liu after 26 years if not "the best" (excl C. Gallardo-Domas, which is completely different).
Liu's role was written for Liric soprano (such as Mrs Riciarelli), not for earth-trembling ceiling blowing dramatic sopranos as Dimitrova or Safajinskaia for the role of Turandot.
May I add that: I have't heard more suitable voice for Liu as Riciarelli's voice
Loved it. Very moving. I don't know about some people and their useless comments...if you don't like something, that's fine, you don't have to be an ass about it. Some people pretend to like opera just to say they have class, but class is exactly what they lack.
mrs Ricciarelli's interpretation is heartbreaking and i also agree with leontyne2.
I think that she sings good, lyric piaissimis are beautiful. Don't compare strenght of voice between lyric and dramatic voices. The one, who critices her so badly, probably favoures big voices.
Agree with Leontyne2. Very moving, great singing (and audio) with momentous impulse forward to her suicide. Haven't cried this much since Operation Lam Son 719 (Fire Base 30).
I don't dislike her as much as Nicopaollo does - without getting into any quibbling about her technique, I do find her sweet and sad, as Liu should be. However, the chorus is just leaden and that costume! The poor girl looks like a Romulan!
Ricciarelli is one of the few sopranos who had a true piannissimi at the top of her voice. She sings with great emotion and is truly an opera star! Too bad we don't have singers today with half her personality and class.
That doesn't really matter - after all, it's Ricciarelli who is the famous singer, and anyone is entitled their opinion about her singing, whether or not they could do it better or not. Here I liked her singing, but in "Signore ascolta" nicopaolillo's remarks aren't off the mark
Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion. Opinions are like asses. Everybody has one. The only person who is competent to judge the performance of a bullfighter is another bullfighter. I am certain that you would find any serious artist who has made a decent singing career to be far more lenient with Madame Riciarelli than this this archair expert. Those who can do, do. Those who can't, criticize. I rest my case.
"Childish" is inappropriate. The music world is filled with amateurs who have taken a few lessons and feel that they know everything about singing technique. If Mr. Nicopaolillo had to sing a few notes before a crowd of 10 (much less 5000) he would probably soil his britches..but I'm certain that he would have wonderful breath support and superb forward placement.
I hate comments like these. They only make you look like a pompous jerk. I am no expert, so I will not comment on her technique, but I will say that she sounds great and on of the most expressive Liu's I've seen. Of course proper technique is important in opera, but so is the ability to convey emotion. I'd rather see an opera with great (even if slightly imperfect) singing that makes me feel than see an opera with perfect singing but dull acting. It is an entire package!
CHE SPETTACOLO DI INTERPRETAZIONE !!!!!!
marcomanuelgloria 3 months ago
direi ottima.
iubanne 4 months ago
Super gute interpretation BRAVA!!
7bbuwe 8 months ago
What happened to the torture scene? Ping orders her to be tortured, she says she can resist no more, but nobody even touches her. She has no reason to kill herself, this is absolutely horrendous staging. It's too bad because she is perfect as Liu.
spgtenor 1 year ago
@spgtenor I agree. She also says: "Let me pass, let me pass!!" But nobody is there!!!!
MrLupo23 1 year ago
"Lasciatemi passare, lasciatemi passare" Ma dove visto che ha tutta la scena libera?? O_o
MrLupo23 1 year ago
uhm she didn't even stab herself. and Lorin needs to go to some rehearsals so he knows what the singer wants to do.
thxby
vivaciouscritic 1 year ago
Calaf is such a stupid character!
Poor Timur.... He breaks my heart when he tries to wake Liu.... :,(
alexandriusgirl 1 year ago 3
Wow. Words cannot describe this performance.
BiancoRose 1 year ago 2
ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS!!!!!!!
Durchlaucht1970 1 year ago
Love Ricciarelli's Liu brings a vulnerability to the role..The ending is a bit predicatable but following Puccini's death it was a thankless task for Alfano.At it's premier the opera ended at Liu's death as this was where Puccini had more or less completed it to..The Audience left in silence with only one shout of "Viva Puccini"..
Mixtupabit 1 year ago 2
The libretto of Turandot is just sick..
TheFrostickles 1 year ago
@TheFrostickles
No, it isn't. ... but I always wonder if the end of Turandot (both the opera and the character) shouldn't have been ... darker, more terrible.
Yours,
AdL
alandelane 1 year ago
Awful costumes and stage direction ... but Ricciarelli is an angel!
90lysander 1 year ago 2
this is my friends cousin
harshy29 1 year ago
I was once doing Turandot as a choir singer. A mega production in sport hall. Stage 50m x 100m amazing......
We were rehearsing in a huge hall.... just concrete and steel........ cold and empty..... no atmosphere at all..... and then this scene came and at the end when we picked up Liu like in a funeral I could not surpress my tears..... Amazing music.... amazing scene.....
Dalmata1961 1 year ago 3
Liu es lo mejor de la opera, el único personaje puro, cada vez que veo esta escena se me caen las lagrimas. Grande puccini Genio!!!
ezev8logos 1 year ago
I cannot describe this. Breathtaking. Beautiful.
ABThatsMe91 1 year ago 4
I weep for Liu. So loyal. So faithful. She's such a moving character. She reminds me of Butterfly in her steadfastness
elephantbarbiegirl 2 years ago 4
I think I like the role of Liu better than Turandot. Turandot is just a bunch of screaming and cold vocal performance. Liu is graceful with lots of legato and artistry.
raigekimaru 2 years ago 4
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Yaamoesje 2 years ago
Gorgeous!
saradamsmc 2 years ago 4
Las consagradas de antes, que son verdaderos iconos, que crearon escuela y tradicion como la Callas, la Tebaldi, Caballé, Richiarelli, etc. pero ahora tambien hay muy buenas sopranos,
como Angela Giorghiu, Rene Fleming, Ana Netrebko, April Milo, Kiri Te Kanawa,
Ana Maria Martinez, a mi megustan todas las que cantan bien.
.
Lourdesdejesus1 2 years ago 2
As much as I adore Puccini's music, for me Turandot was NOT with happy ending. It seemed so false after what happened to Liu :(
8Quna8 2 years ago 3
I felt the exact same thing after seeing it for the first time- but an interesting fact, that can shed some light on the weird storyline, is that Puccini died right after finishing her death scene.. Who knows how he whould have done it.
alexandriusgirl 2 years ago 2
The happy ending was conceived before Puccini died
Well, the key does not lie with Puccini or his libretist being callous to Liu, but with a misconception that most have.
Turandot and Calaf are No-Real-Life-People but the all consuming Yin Yan symbols that will do anything in their eternal take-no-prisoners war for dominance over one another and occasionally -maybe- love for each other.
This explains Calaf's rather cold and definitely belated reaction to Liu's death and Turandot's bloody habits.
CONTESTAR 2 years ago
@CONTESTAR - In a way, I think you are correct, Contestar - but remember, by the time we got to this point in the Opera, Puccini had already died and Franco Alfano had taken over writing the ending. Who knows what would have been the end if Puccini could have finished it? Perhaps Calaf and Liu would have ended up together with Turandot's head on a spike...
DFWBrysco 1 year ago
@DFWBrysco It's true that Puccini didn't finish Turandot, but he did write through Puccini's death aria. It's clear she was going to die and the Calaf and Turandot were going to end up together. That said, he did not write the final versions of the following duet or chorus, nor did he have the opportunity to revise the opera (as he often did), so he might at least have made the final pairing more dramatically viable.
90lysander 1 year ago
Ii live in Puccini's brith town in Tuscany and here all Turandot's productions end with Liu's death, because it's ending is spurious
borghesina96 1 year ago
I don't think it is a happy ending. Calaf turns out to be a thoughtless selfish man and he and Turandot revel in their lust over Liu's corpse. She is the only positive character in the story. Puccini really was exploring depths of human depravity, especially with the 'happy' ending
m97et02f 1 year ago 5
@m97et02f
seriously. why the fuck would you marry someone who ordered people to torture and murder your friend? what a shallow, selfish bastard.
raigekimaru 1 year ago
@raigekimaru
Mmm, interesting comment. I was so used to the story, the idea expressed in your comment never entered my mind. Drat, now I won't be able to view this opera in the same, perhaps naive, way as before.
nispen 1 year ago
Das ist vor ihr sehr schön und dynamisch gesungen!!!
vocede 2 years ago
also timur is the shit
jackbhungry 2 years ago 3
such a pure sweet vocal color
raigekimaru 2 years ago
katia es la unica a la que se le oye bien liu y turandot, los dos papeles.
TheBasilio 2 years ago
Muy de acuerdo (Y)
00ceroalaizquierda00 2 years ago
PD: y no sabría decirte en cual de los dos me gusta más
un saludo!
00ceroalaizquierda00 2 years ago
i like her the most
jackbhungry 2 years ago
che splendida voce che aveva
tenoremio 2 years ago
Incredible voice, incredible technical solutions, incredible deep emotions. BRAVO!
pocokkaa 2 years ago
It is very original and deep emotional perfomance! Bravo Katia!!!
Lenochka1107 2 years ago 2
oh my god.
that's incredible.
she's so beautiful too, in that pure way.
the way she looks out of her eyes, and the way she delivers all of this is just amazing.
popertop 2 years ago 5
I much prefer her as Liu. Her recording of the title role was not a roaring success. This is in a league of its own. Moving on every level. Thank you for posting it.
owenboi66 2 years ago
Tan criticada, tan defenestrada por publico y crítica ... sin embargo cuanto dariamos por tener una soprano lirica de semejante calidad tímbrica, un conocimiento cabal del fraseo pucciniano y un italiano perfecto que deja en claro que se trata de su idioma natar ... todo fluye: pianissimos, mezzavoces y fortissimos ... vaya fiato ademas! Nos merecemos las japonesitas caprinas, con italiano defectuoso, inexpresivas y sin fiato que tenemos que escuchar hoy en los teatros.
Orosmann 2 years ago 4
toda la razon , las voces de ahora dejan bastante que desear en interpretacion
Mondeschatten 2 years ago
thank you for posting this!! Incredibly emotional, I wish I could have been there ugh.
I felt like weeping, for liu, and then when timur aproaches, ahhhh shivers!
vocalpianist 2 years ago 4
of any critic....it's a passionate art,too much commonsense would suffocate its beauty....
operafromegypt 3 years ago 3
i totally agree with you voluptuossa1234,i actually have (to me, a similar approach but at the same time quite different)...u c, many people do the same with GOD!i did one thing wrong today, i will do the opposite tomorrow so i could win more points...this is the best way to worship GOD...oh no, u people dont know how to worship GOD!etc...simply:BE TRUE,CHERISH BEAUTY,LIVE BY IT AND TO IT!technique is definitely imp, yet it must come from the heart, not the exaggerated too particular analysis
operafromegypt 3 years ago
I like this, good comment
vocalpianist 2 years ago
Amazing!
SingingCrab7 3 years ago
Sorry:) Shafajinskaia...
PucciniTur 3 years ago 2
You meant for the Turandot right?Because I do not know if she performed Liu and I doubt if her voice is for that...
Lweoira 2 years ago
Some people mix up their "non professional" personal taste with professionalism.
Ricciarelli's interpretation is one of the best renditions of Liu after 26 years if not "the best" (excl C. Gallardo-Domas, which is completely different).
Liu's role was written for Liric soprano (such as Mrs Riciarelli), not for earth-trembling ceiling blowing dramatic sopranos as Dimitrova or Safajinskaia for the role of Turandot.
May I add that: I have't heard more suitable voice for Liu as Riciarelli's voice
PucciniTur 3 years ago 5
I can't believe they cut it right there-before the chorus
SingstaMay 3 years ago 2
Having a good cry over this! It breaks my heart! But that's what we like about it!
fraulein40 3 years ago 3
Loved it. Very moving. I don't know about some people and their useless comments...if you don't like something, that's fine, you don't have to be an ass about it. Some people pretend to like opera just to say they have class, but class is exactly what they lack.
eplv2 3 years ago 16
Don't care what the armchair critics say, l loved this performance-especially her high notes.
rayacs123 3 years ago 5
mrs Ricciarelli's interpretation is heartbreaking and i also agree with leontyne2.
I think that she sings good, lyric piaissimis are beautiful. Don't compare strenght of voice between lyric and dramatic voices. The one, who critices her so badly, probably favoures big voices.
ua1907 4 years ago 18
@ua1907 but lyrics can also have big voices :]
sweetaztecangel69 1 year ago
Agree with Leontyne2. Very moving, great singing (and audio) with momentous impulse forward to her suicide. Haven't cried this much since Operation Lam Son 719 (Fire Base 30).
sagalat 4 years ago 5
Eva Marton's squillo could slice all of your tongues and fingers off and then we wouldn't have to listen to your boring comments.
uniqueattack 4 years ago
The costume is horrible!
reebachan 4 years ago
I don't dislike her as much as Nicopaollo does - without getting into any quibbling about her technique, I do find her sweet and sad, as Liu should be. However, the chorus is just leaden and that costume! The poor girl looks like a Romulan!
jillgivler 4 years ago
I think she is lovely...
gclef2288 4 years ago 2
Ricciarelli is one of the few sopranos who had a true piannissimi at the top of her voice. She sings with great emotion and is truly an opera star! Too bad we don't have singers today with half her personality and class.
leontyne2 4 years ago 6
I agree. Her piannissimi is just amazing. I only wish I could accomplish that - my big dramatic voice doesn't suit this role at all. :(
Voluptuossa1234 4 years ago 4
Puccini...amore...
Bigman240 4 years ago 2
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dear ricciarelli this is not singing, it's only a bad weeping.all sounds are back, without breath support. the bass is terrible!!!
nicopaolillo 5 years ago
Oh yeah? You could sing it better?
69Faubourg 4 years ago
That doesn't really matter - after all, it's Ricciarelli who is the famous singer, and anyone is entitled their opinion about her singing, whether or not they could do it better or not. Here I liked her singing, but in "Signore ascolta" nicopaolillo's remarks aren't off the mark
fiordiligicymraeg 4 years ago
Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion. Opinions are like asses. Everybody has one. The only person who is competent to judge the performance of a bullfighter is another bullfighter. I am certain that you would find any serious artist who has made a decent singing career to be far more lenient with Madame Riciarelli than this this archair expert. Those who can do, do. Those who can't, criticize. I rest my case.
69Faubourg 4 years ago
I'm sorry - I just found the "you can do it better, eh?" comment rather childish, that's all.
fiordiligicymraeg 4 years ago
"Childish" is inappropriate. The music world is filled with amateurs who have taken a few lessons and feel that they know everything about singing technique. If Mr. Nicopaolillo had to sing a few notes before a crowd of 10 (much less 5000) he would probably soil his britches..but I'm certain that he would have wonderful breath support and superb forward placement.
69Faubourg 4 years ago
I hate comments like these. They only make you look like a pompous jerk. I am no expert, so I will not comment on her technique, but I will say that she sounds great and on of the most expressive Liu's I've seen. Of course proper technique is important in opera, but so is the ability to convey emotion. I'd rather see an opera with great (even if slightly imperfect) singing that makes me feel than see an opera with perfect singing but dull acting. It is an entire package!
Voluptuossa1234 4 years ago