Amazing hypothetical Christian Muslim Debate! "The Hypostatic Union" .

[SenorZacito]

@QuranTafseer The bible was written in Greek brother. It is quite possible that Jesus knew many languages after all Greek was like the English of its day everybody spoke Greek. All of the Jewish manuscripts were in Greek. I know he spoke Aramaic the Maronite Catholics have their mass in Aramaic. To speak to the gentiles the apostles had to speak Greek brother. The only contradictions which occurred is due to the protestant reformation.

[SenorZacito]

@QuranTafseer You have to understand history paper 2000 years ago was not easy to come by. Plus the Roman Empire as well as the Jews persecuted the early Christians it was very hard to get all the writings together. Here is the bible in its original language which is still present at the Vatican " οὕτως γὰρ ἠγάπησεν ὁ θεὸς τὸν κόσμον, ὥστε τὸν υἱὸν τὸν μονογενῆ ἔδωκεν, ἵνα πᾶς ὁ πιστεύων εἰς αὐτὸν μὴ ἀπόληται ἀλλ' ἔχῃ ζωὴν αἰώνιον. " This is the original words written by Saint John

[QuranTafseer]

@SenorZacito So you admit that the Bible is not the direct word of God and that it contains contradictions?

Also Did Jesus Speak Greek? It's a simple question, i guess there is no point asking a second time so i will give you the answer, Jesus did not SPEAK Greek! He spoke Aramaic which was similar language to Hebrew. The bible that you have is a translation of a translation of copies of several other copies which all contradict i.e. manuscripts variations in the thousands.....

[SenorZacito]

@QuranTafseer We do not limit people to speaking one language like Muslims do with Arabic. God is above any language.

[SenorZacito]

@QuranTafseer How am i misrepresenting Islam? In Sura 19:28, Mary, the mother of Jesus, is said to be the sister of Aaron and Moses and the daughter of Amram (Sura 66:12). However, Jesus was not born for another 1400 years after Moses! It is clear that Muhammad confused Miriam, the sister of Moses, with Mary the mother of Jesus and wife of Joseph. This is a clear historical error. If Mohammad was a prophet how could he make such an error?

[SenorZacito]

@QuranTafseer The bible is referred to as the book, and Christians are referred to as People of the Book in the Qur'an.The bible is not a book my brother in the almighty it is a collection of books. When it comes to the trinity think of it as this...Just as the one human consists of mind, body, and soul. God consists with love of a father, and his son who showed us the ways of God, and we are guided by the spirit of God... If the Qur'an is the book of God why does it have historical errors?

[QuranTafseer]

@SenorZacito Again it goes to show that sadly you are misrepresenting Islam, We Muslim except the Gospel given to Jesus i.e. the one which "Jesus Preached" i.e. the Bible itself says that Jesus went to the people to "Preach them the Good News" i.e. Gospel, we don't believe in the 4 anonymous gospels written by people who didn't even meet Jesus Peace be upon him, lol historical errors in the Qur'an based on what - the Bible?

Please get real for a second - no offence,

[QuranTafseer]

@SenorZacito If i show you 3 clear cut contradiction in the bible i.e. clear Cut simple contradiction in the bible would you abandon Christianity and Read the Qur'an?

Also do you believe that the Bible is the Direct word of God i.e. verbatim?

[julio14335]

There is no God but Allah and Jesus (uhpb) is his Messiah and Prophet.

[julio14335]

No Mr White Deedat was not ignorant, you are, the bible does not teaches God Man, that your version of christianity...

[realmusic74]

The ball of clay (God in the spirit) became a cube of clay (God in the flesh)...it's still the same thing (CLAY) in a different form.

[QuranTafseer]

@realmusic74 Ok it seems you see trinity in all things, lets say there were 3 identical triplets. One commits murder and runs away can we say "what the heck they are all made of flesh and bones and darn they all look the same" - lets just excute any 1 of the other 2.

God is eternal and the ever living - when the eternal becomes finite it is no longer God when the ever living dies then it is no longer God - according to the bible and Moses and all the Prophets and basic LOGIC, : )

[SenorZacito]

@QuranTafseer Allow me to use this analogy to explain the trinity my brother in the almighty. It is like a 3 leave clover. If you look at a 3 clover there are three leaves yet one clover. Each leaf is distinctive yet part of the same one clover. The same could be said with the trinity there are 3 entities yet one god. Your Qur'an states 120 times that the bible is true, and the bible is not corrupt as you have been taught the original text is in the Vatican in the original Greek.

[QuranTafseer]

@SenorZacito Please don't lie/misrepresent the Qur'an - well at least don't do it in "Public" lol - No where in the Quran does it mention the word "Bible", the irony is the Bible itself doesn't mention the word Bible, LOL Clovers? The Trinity consists of 3 distinct persons so there is no point comparing it to a clover or 3 keyrings or 3 cars joined together, why if One clover said "Hear O Israel the Lord OUR GOD is ONE", does that now make 4 clovers?

[QuranTafseer]

@SenorZacito I'm sad to see that you think "Greek" denotes ORIGINAL - Jesus didn't speak Greek, so there is no originality of the text, please go and read a few books on this topic by Christian scholars i.e well respected scholar and not your local Bishop who lives down the road.

thanks for commenting

[sonny123ification]

the father is the creater the son is the mssg and the holy spirit is the power of his works all one and the same

[luvlybrwnskin26]

jesus throughout the bible is called god-man presented as god-man and worshiped as god-man...John 9:58, " " 8:24-28, " " 1:1, Psalms 49:7, John 20:25, Phil 2:4, Col 2:9, Titus 2:13, Heb 1:8....looks at these scriptures for those of you who have yet to be graced with the salvation of God

[sonny123ification]

if you do not beileve that the father came into man then let me ask you this why did god creat man in his own image? why do you find it hard to beileve that god entered into human nature the flesh? was it not god who created man?

[luvlybrwnskin26]

the church conferance in which i attended made a very clear and very understanding statement that grasped my attention. one of the speakers said if you can explain god in length who and what he is down to a science...than that is no god at all. what man would truely know god inside and out? no one. muslims can tell you all there is to know about "their god" because he is not a real one. he is made up to best suit their lives and lifestyles. no one will ever fully know the way god works

[luvlybrwnskin26]

@sonny123ification all in all i agree with you lol

[sonny123ification]

the father the son and the holy ghost are one and the same the son is part of the father becauuse he comes from the father and the holy spirit is the power of the working god. the father is in the son but also in man

[October31st1517]

So It is impossible for 1 Person to have 2 natures?

[QuranTafseer]

@October31st1517 t's impossible for 1 person to be 3 persons and yet be 1 person,

No one is saying that God DOES NOT have many attributes i.e. the Most Merciful, forgiving, loving etc

But christians want to limit their paganism to 3 people, why not be like the Hindus and say God has 100's of sons!

why limit it to 3 people, if you want to be a pagan then go all the way or "think" and leave paganism all together.

[October31st1517]

@QuranTafseer When did I (or any trinitarian) ever say that 1 person can be 3 persons. We believe that 3 Persons are the one true and eternal God. Please do not misrepresent the Christian position. We do not limit His persons. Our final authority the bible does.

[QuranTafseer]

@October31st1517 Ok so the Father is God and the Holy Ghost and the Son are not God? then? or part of a trinity?

What you just said is "1 person cannot be 3 persons", but 3 persons can be 1 person, how illogical and confusing, true paganism.

"Hear O Israel the Lord OUR GOD is ONE" - Jesus Peace be upon him said that according to what remains of the Bible,

he said "OUR GOD" not Your GOD!

[October31st1517]

@QuranTafseer No. It is evident that you have not been trained in the Christian faith. As the creed says "The Father is God, The Son is God, The Holy Ghost is God, yet there are not 3 Gods but ONE. Also I never said 3 persons can be 1. Don't put into quotations something I never said. But here is something you can quote me on. "3 Persons can be 1 Being" Do you know the difference between being and person?

[iamTOTALLYredeemed]

@QuranTafseer

Jesus has a god; Yahweh God; the one true God, because he is not just begotten of God; the Word, he is also man. Both fully God and fully man. He took upon (added) the nature of a man to himself making his nature as God of no effect. He didn't seize being God, but he seized living as God; entering into an existence as the likeness of man.

[iamTOTALLYredeemed]

@QuranTafseer

The Trinity is not and never has been 'three persons in one person' the Trinity concept is 'three persons in one God'. 'Three persons' 'one being'.

[SmokiSounds]

Jeez, Miller fails all over. Comparing God to a box of clay is just third-grade. Comparing God to ANYTHING material is a contradiction of terms and CANNOT be used to argue against omnipotence in any scenario.

"A nonsense", as you write at the end, is trying to somehow put natural limitations or logical boundaries to a super-natural, super-logical deity. That's nonsense.

[QuranTafseer]

@SmokiSounds I think you misuderstood the video?

Millar was showing how absurd paganistic christians are when they try to compare God to creation i.e. when they say God is a MAN or a MAN GOD or any other so called false beliefs.

[SmokiSounds]

@QuranTafseer I think you misunderstood the concept of God, my friend, as well as Miller's remark. Surely COMPARING God in His pure form, whatever that might be, to anything material is illogical. However there is absolutely nothing illogical in God transcending His creation (duh). Miller however compares God transcending into man to a box of clay being shaped into a ball of clay.

[QuranTafseer]

@SmokiSounds LOL no i never, we here christians say Jesus is God and Man, Man and God

he prayed to God, but no he didn't pray to God he was God,

God has full knowledge of the unseen, but Jesus never but that was becasue he was not God but a GOD MAN<

Pure paganism, please read the OT! and head what Moses said "Hear O Israel the Lord Our God is ONE".

[00ismaeL001]

@MultiDravidian Muhammad committed the most UNFORGIVABLE sin in Islam he bowed down and worshiped the 3 goddesses; Al-Lat, Uzza and Manat because he wanted to get his tribe to join his new cult, later when he was BUSTED he said that SATAN had controlled his ASS and made him pray to the idols.

MUHMMAD WAS 1, POSSESSED BY SATAN, by his own mouth, 2, committed the unforgivable sin of SHIRK.

...and that was no the only time he was possessed a Jew cast a demonic spell on muhamamd.

[ninjaboytellem4]

Is it odd that as a non christian I think I can explain the hypostatic union better than this christian authority?

I always thought that maybe it meant that Jesus did not have a human soul, but rather his soul was the holy spirit. If the three persons of the trinity are in fact one and the same, then they are no more than names for different ways to view God. In that case, Jesus' body and mind could be completely human while his soul was the holy spirit. That just makes sense to me.

[QuranTafseer]

@ninjaboytellem4 LOL

[QuranTafseer]

@ninjaboytellem4 what you have done is cut and pasted christian doctrine, ok you got rid of the 3rd person the holy ghost but then you stuck him in a human body!

so now God's Son is Jesus + Holy Ghost

who prayed to God who was in heaven and they both stated that they of their own self can not do anything i.e. jesus said "I of my Own self can not do anything... i.e. God possesses that attribute of doing ALL,

All christians have done is stick a label on a fallacy

[00ismaeL001]

@QuranTafseer then why does the Quran say Jesus was born of a virgin and holy?

[QuranTafseer]

Thanks for your attempt, i doubt that chrisitans would accept that as a response in trying to solve the issue of the trinity,

the trinity was something which was later added to the true teaching of Jesus peace be upon him,

Jesus said "Hear O Israel the Lord OUR GOD is ONE!"

thanks for the comment.

take care.

[t908kenworth]

I USED TO BE A CHRISTIAN MAN I USED TO BE SO MESSED UP WITH THER BELIEFS ALHAMDULLAH I BECAME A MUSLIM AND EVERYTHING IS SO CLEAR TO ME. PRAISE ALLAH

[00ismaeL001]

@t908kenworth So why does the Quran say Jesus was born of a VIRGIN?

So who was Jesus's father?

Yet Muhammad was born of PAGAN KUFFAR parents and a sinner.

Muhammad said his pagan father Abdullah was in HELL because he was a pagan....but notice his name; Abdullah; means SLAVE OF ALLAH, meaning Allah was a PAGAN god BEFORE Islam.

Meaning Islam is FALSE.

[mariamhmhA]

@00ismaeL001 Islam is the religion of god since time began havent you listened to the alphabet song. you'd think you would wear your islamic name with pride. Allah(swta) is arabic for a word which has no english equivalent, the closest you can get to it is "god" but it is much much more than that.

may Allah the sustainer the all mighty lead you to the straight path.

[00ismaeL001]

@mariamhmhA lol...than explain why Muhammad's father was named Abdullah = Slave of ALLAH? Yet Muhammad's father was A PAGAN, and died an unbeliever and kuffar....so why was his name SLAVE OF ALLAH.

Proving Allah was a pagan god before Islam.

[QuranTafseer]

@00ismaeL001 Adam was born without a Mother or father but you are interlectually lazy and want to be spoon fed the trinity? I guess if anyone had the right to be called the Son Of God then according to your logic it should be Adam,

Abdullah means the Slave of "GOD", the Pagan Arabs believed in "ALLAH" even the Quran states this!

*BUT they used to associate partners with God, just as the Pagan Christians do today,

[QuranTafseer]

@00ismaeL001 Adam was born without a Mother or father but you are interlectually lazy and want to be spoon fed the trinity? I guess if anyone had the right to be called the Son Of God then according to your logic it should be Adam,

Abdullah means the Slave of "GOD", the Pagan Arabs believed in "ALLAH" even the Quran states this!

*BUT they used to associate partners with God, just as the Pagan Christians do today,

[00ismaeL001]

@QuranTafseer

1. Adam was the FIRST MAN, no people born before him.

2. Adam could not make any miracles.

3. Adam was made from clay, not flesh.

4. Adam SINNED.

Quran and hadiths say Jesus born of virgin, after billions of people born. WHY him?

Quran says Jesus was HOLY. how come?

Hadith says Jesus ONLY MAN BORN WITHOUT SIN....not even Muhammad...why?

Quran/hadiths say Jesus made miracles...muhammad could not. why?



[QuranTafseer]

@00ismaeL001 1. Adam was the FIRST MAN, no people born before him.

Exactly my point lol, so you worship Jesus since he was not the first Man? silly point,

you based your argument on the fact that Jesus didn't have a father hence God would have to be his "dad?"

We believe God is far greater than what you attribute to him, he is more than capable of creating a Human without a mother or a father, that doesn't mean God is that person's SON,

[00ismaeL001]

@t908kenworth Muhammad's uncle, his father's brother, was named; Abt-Al-Uzza and that means SLAVE OF UZZA, the PAGAN GODDESS and DAUGHTER OF ALLAH.

Meaning Muhmamad came from PAGANS and he was a kuffar who practiced SHIRK, the most unforgivable sin in Islam. ...lol

[wertden80]

lol

[QuranTafseer]

@wertden80 I know : ) haha

[Cimbom1990GS]

@MultiDravidian

The Quran tells of آدم (ʾĀdam) in the surah al-Baqara (2):30-39, al-A'raf (7):11-25, al-Hijr (15):26-44, al-Isra (17):61-65, Ta-Ha (20):115-124, and Sad (38):71-85.

Type Quran.com and go search plz. 

[Cimbom1990GS]

@MultiDravidian Firstly, it is not our sins that will make us enter the paradise, but Gods mercy. Whenever you read in Quran about what the way to Paradise is, is Allah states '' Believe and do righteouis deeds''. It is the combination of the two that will grant you his mercy.

God will forgive and punish anyone he pleases. About Adam and Eve, well thats answered in the Quran. Check it out for yourself if they are forgiven or not.

[Cimbom1990GS]

@MultiDravidian Also one thing will be very clear after reading the quran: only those who constantly: ask for forgiveness, those who repend, those who fear God, those who think about the bountys upon us (and think) , live a life aware of God (god conscious) ; Will Enter Paradise.

One of the reason we are ordered to pray 5 times a day is that you have no option to ''forget'' your lord, you constantly remember him and turn your face to him, daily.

[Cimbom1990GS]

@MultiDravidian Yes, if you sincerly repend and ask for forgiveness for your sin, he ll forgive. No such thing as ransom is required, he is by definition Mercy. I advice you to read the Quran and see the islamic perspective on sinning and beeing/asking forgiven(ness) . It disproves the idea of any else taking on your sins, every person is held account for itself.

But we should know this, we mankind are constantly sinning, if the mercy of God wasnt there, we d be crushed immediatly.

[Cimbom1990GS]

@MultiDravidian Firstly We Muslims believe that Jesus is not dead but raised to heaven, he ll be send back at the end of times. Secondly no one dies for others sins. There is no such thing compulsary that someone needs to die so that you are forgiven. God doesnt need to sacrifce someone to be able to forgive you/us. He is allready The most mercifull, he doesnt get that mercy after some sacrifice.

Finnally, you talk about mission, the mission of every prophet was to convey the message of one god.

[QuranTafseer]

@MultiDravidian his mission........to die for humans......which in glory cannot be done....

No his mission was to inform the children of Israel

"Hear O Israel Our Lord Our God is ONE" and to Love the Lord with All your Heart!

but according to you God is powerless and can only forgive by creating a Human so he can Kill him in order to forgive his other creatures which he created!

[hefty1986]

James White gets distroyed

[Surfxeo]

@hefty1986 How does White get destroyed? I have seen the full debate and the Muslim debater cannot grasp the simple doctrine of how God reveals himself in the Holy Bible.

Three persons in the one being of God.

[hefty1986]

@Surfxeo the greatest command ?mmm worship your Lord...ONE..! not one in 3 or 3 in 1.. 

[Surfxeo]

@hefty1986 Why are you quoting Scripture when it reputes the Quran? Especially when you are quoting Luke 10:27 and that is only a small part of the verse and out of context. Where does it say 3 gods in the Bible?

It doesn't. It is one God in 3 divine persons, the Father is God, the Son is God and the Holy Spirit is God. The second person of the God head veiled His glory from all eternity to die for the sins of many.

Calls Himself God many times in the BIble, you should quote them.

[hefty1986]

@Surfxeo so let me get this stright... you have 1 god divided in 3?.. or 3 diffrent god but of one essence or diffrent essence?

[Surfxeo]

@hefty1986 You are reading the Quran and not what Christians actually have always believed. No. It is 1 God with 3 persons with different roles. God is a being with wisdom, power, holiness, justice, goodness and truth who had revealed himself to us threw His word.

'And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to His will in the army of heaven, amoung the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay His hand, or say unto Him, What doest thou?' (Daniel 4:35)

[Surfxeo]

@hefty1986 Jesus claims of divinity.

(John 10:30) Father and Son are 1 God

"I and the Father are one"

(Matthew 3:16-17) Here we see the 3 persons of the Triune God in unity, (Father, Son & Holy Spirit)

"And Jesus, when he was baptized went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased"

[hefty1986]

@Surfxeo funny how you dont give the context of john 10:30 .. christian never do.. and funny this statement is in john .. the one which readicly diffrnt from the other gosspels.

3;16..? your confussed, you obvously havnt read your bible because according to the bible god has sons by the many.. i.e not ilteral.. what makes him exclusive?

[akuadalahme]

I think this video confirms that most Muslims do not understand what they are talking about, in this case, Christianity. Deedat's foolish questions are the most popular. Hypostatic Union is one of early Christian doctrines . James just explained what it is. He didn't create that. Muslims apologists are always good in finding words and terms. "Label" is one of them.

[luvlybrwnskin26]

@akuadalahme not only that...they find a "portion" of a scripture (not in its entirety) and twist it to best fit the lies they were told and to make the chistians believe their teachings are false. often times these muslims are red-herrings. instead of answering the questions about their religion that they know have wrong answwers they pick away at truth until it is a lie tat best fits them.

[Cimbom1990GS]

I am trieng to understand it but the logic fails me. The question bothers me, why is one not sufficient over theree? Why has god bothered sending messengers over time, while he could come down instantly and do the thing by himself? That doesnt make sense, because that is like chaning the ''sunnetullah'', the way Allah handles things. Which offcourse he does not do. 1 ,2 ,3 ,4, 5 ,6 ... 10000 messengers, 100001 God... logical? Not

[QuranTafseer]

@Cimbom1990GS The logic can be found in the bible, "God is NOT a Man that He should Lie" hence we don't need to dive any deeper or give alternative answers when the chrisitan scriptures are so clear"

Why would God need to come down to Earth? we are just specks on the surface of the universe it's sad that people in general e.g, christians feel that God has to come personally, God is not part of creation! if he was he would cease to be God!

[SmokiSounds]

@QuranTafseer "God is not part of creation! If he was he would cease to be God"

So, so pathetic. Of course God wouldn't cease to be God if He transcended into His creation. Precisely because He's not part of it. You're making a basic logical error. God is the Cause of Existence [time, space, matter], hence is not subject to the limitations of such Existence (omnipotent).

And what's this business about "specks of the Universe". You believe in a God to whom we're nothing but dust?...

[zOmAlGaNg23]

@Cimbom1990GS this question is easy and it is already answered in quran, just read it on quranexplorer. com.

good luck!

[Cimbom1990GS]

@zOmAlGaNg23 Achi I am muslim and saying that first sending messengers, then coming yourself is not logical :) .

Read better and your answer is not going to drive a non-muslim to do action and look into quran to find the truth.

[zOmAlGaNg23]

@Cimbom1990GS yeah excuse me akhi either i liked to reply to someone else or i didnt read it well, thank you for informing me that you are a muslim.

[Ilive4Allah2011]

My Christian brothers and sisters I would like to warmly invite you to become Muslims. My brothers and sisters please seek the truth. Read the Holy Quran and gain an authentic knowledge of are wonderful GD and liberate your souls from falsehood. Become Muslims and worship the true GD of the Universe. I wish you the best. Peace and blessings be upon you my Christian brothers and sisters.

[live215]

I encourage all the ummah not to debate with jews, and christians on youtube since if this was outside of the computer the things they said would not be said.

[live215]

@live215 I actually think that christians are some of the most intolerant emotional people in the world. Especially when they speak about the religion without any knowledge or understanding of the religion. infact I find it very gross when christians try to win converts threw bashing the religion my prophet , infact by christians doing this itj just makes me dislike them more and more. the way I see it arguing with an ignorant person will make me hate him since most christians are ignorant to

[live215]

about true islam

[live215]

You will never hear any single God fearing muslim, insult jesus(pbuh) as christians insult my prophet muhammad(pbuh)

[LogicTalk1]

I'd really liked to see a man as James white dare to challange Deedat I personally don't think that he qualify at that time, but since he dare so speak out after Deedat died why not even come close to Challange Dr. Zakir Naik?! He can't & will not even dare to come near Dr. Naik because of the fact that he knows that facts in advance he will never debate a soul after that.

I am not even near anything called scholar but with the logic I am hearing from Mr. White I could have logical answers.

[ObliviousRayne]

One thing here... James White makes videos on youtube where he refuses to allow people to comment on them. He attacks Muslims openly and calls them "Apologetic's" He says that Muslims need to find ways to justify the Holy Quran because he disagrees with it. He openly misquotes the Quran because that's his agenda, he's not in it for the truth he's in it to "win" a argument that has been debated over and over again to no end.

[muhammedquran]

 (RIDICULOUS THINGS IN THE QURAN)

If you pray with your eyes lifted up toward heaven, they will be snatched out of your head.

The Hadith / Muslim volume I, nos. 863 Chapter CLXXIII. It is forbidden to lift one's eyes toward the sky in prayer. Abu Haraira reported Allah's Apostle saying: "People should avoid lifting their eyes towards the sky while supplicating in prayer, otherwise their eyes would be snatched away."

[QuranTafseer]

@muhammedquran How sad the trinity has deceived you so much that you now makes things up? This is not in the Quran!

[LogicTalk1]

@muhammedquran I have never hear of anything like that in my life?! 1st of all do you know what u r writting? 863 Chapter CLXXIII? there isn't anything as CLXXIII you are just making this up kid. But lets say it is not to look directely unto the sky while praying this isn't anything to do with who u worship.

Is it something some people do I don't know that's between them & God but it's more important who you worship a trion God OR the one God. My advice to u ask questions u might learn somethig

[chicken4247]

@muhammedquran you are an idiot

[killamindz138]

@muhammedquran the quran is not hadith. can you please tell me a case where in over 1400 years there has been a single case where a muslim has lost his eyes by lifting them while praying you will never find such a thing. when muslims pray they are meant to have there eyes fixed at 1 point on the floor so what this hadith means is by lifting your head and looking here there and everywhere and not focusing at that 1 point you will lose concentration and therefore prone to make mistakes in prayer.

[muhammedquran]

Ridiculous things in islam...The Hadith / Burhari volume II, no. 245. If one sleeps and does not offer the prayer, Satan urinates in his ears. Narrated Abdullah: The Prophet said, "Satan urinated in his ears."...this is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

[Allahsarmy]

@GamerFTW21 yes about 90% of Muslims do have the same view the other 10% are the shia rafidah which are not really Muslim but when we talk about christians Protestents,Catholics, Orthodox, Methodists, Avangelists, Baptists, Etc not one of these groups hold the same beliefs as the next group that is why there Many upon many i would say your the ignorent one

[QuranTafseer]

@GamerFTW21 Because God is the 1st cause otherwise you would go in a infinite cycle, also God being one is common sense, one may ask why stop at 3? why not have a God which consists of 13 person?

Moses said God is ONE, God says he is One in the old testament! Jesus said God is One, Jews believe God is one. Christians of old believed God was a Unitarian God but the christians of today believe in 3 person who make up God, they use fancy words to promote paganism! i will send you a link

[QuranTafseer]

@GamerFTW21 No we Muslims use common sense when the Quran says God is one! The we are not allowed to say 3 person are God but all rolled up into one! No christian understands the trinity! So don't tell me you do? You must be the Only one,

I don't need to know all the Muslims, if any Muslim believed in the trinity or other paganistic concepts then he is no longer a Muslim!

Jesus worshipped God! so in reality you believe God bowed down to God? Paganism in its extream form!

[QuranTafseer]

@GamerFTW21 I'm not sure what you mean? If you mean all Muslims believe in ONE GOD sure we all believe in that! If you differ in this then you are not muslim, but christians seem to be ok with believing in 3 gods rapped up in one!

[papercut272]

you can only fool yourself

God is very specific on such a subject, so if he was going to come to us he would have said so millions of times to billions of people. GOD is very specific when comes to such a subject.

[Roxindreamer]

Bullshitters vs. Bullshitters.

[brotherfrank62]

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

[MRSPRESIDENTIAL]

@brotherfrank62 AMEN.

[LiveRemy]

Jesus is saying in the Bible Jhon 5:30

By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. Jesus is clearly saying he has no power but that he is only a messenger.........The bible also says that he will not die for ur sins! Where dos is say that? In the bible Ezekiel 18: The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not even blame the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son

[Allahsarmy]

The video is silly not one christian has the same view, they all have different views and to say Jesus(as) is a "God man" is very silly in itself. Think about it ?

[QuranTafseer]

@Allahsarmy That was the Whole Point lol "God Man" is silly and LOADS of christians accept this!

I guess you need to Google "James White" and the concept of Jesus being God in christianity!

[Allahsarmy]

@QuranTafseer i wasnt directing my comment at you only the christian that believes that Jesus(as) was God Man

[QuranTafseer]

@Allahsarmy sorry Akhi, i was just pointing it out lol a lot of christians actually believe "what James white is saying" i.e. The father, son and the Holy Ghost are the same thing hence Jesus was God rolled up in one? strange idea. May Allah guide him.

Wasalaam.

[Allahsarmy]

@QuranTafseer lol that ok brother i worded my comment a bit wrong i can see why you said what you said lol

[LiveRemy]

Jesus is saying in the Bible Jhon 5:30

By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. Jesus is clearly saying he has no power but that he is only a messenger.........The bible also says that he will not die for ur sins! Where dos is say that? In the bible Ezekiel 18: The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not even blame the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son

[Allahsarmy]

@LiveRemy i bet you, you will still have christians argue against the Verses, when in reality there arguing against the bible and the sayings of Jesus(as) when they arugue against even one word of the Bible they reject the whole bible. Good verse my friend

[afrikanbadboy]

Never shall I join a white supremacist religion that can't stop oppressing non white christians an non white non Christians.

[afrikanbadboy]

Christianity was founded by white humans who called god a white skinned blue eyed man! Christianity caters to middle class white people who only know and say one thing, MY God is white so we are more important n loved by white god more than non whites! Face the facts

[Anaksbane2]

@afrikanbadboy what absolute crap. The vast majority of Christians are non white. African, Asian and european.

Christianity was in Africa before it ever entered europe, Ethiopia actually. You sound like a black racist to me and I dislike racism very much so this conversation ends.

[afrikanbadboy]

@Anaksbane2 false! its a racist religion . YOU KNOW it too. stop lying. BLACKS ARE NIGGERS IN THE EYES OF WHITE CHRISTIANS. christianity will never ever change .

[Anaksbane2]

@afrikanbadboy listen boy, read a book! Hey read the bible,You are in a delusional fantasy, the most christians in the world today are in China, half of the contenant of africa is Christian. You need to let go of your excuse for your failure and realise that Christianity is embraced by all tribes and colours. Christian racism is all in your head.

[skysoul2009]

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