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  • When he says its "really quite simple"... well that really got me to laugh :-) Thank u, Great! too truthful for most...

  • Good, biting, political satire....keep it up.

  • Lol, it's Algors Loonix Army

  • Al Gore Pied Piper for the Carbon Credit Crusade

    Al Gore brings emotional fervor to his carbon crusade He travels the country displaying charts and graphs, quoting scientific experts& appealing to philosophers&religious leaders to save the planet from global warming Be says nothing about his business partners who yearn to trade on the emerging carbon market And the media pay no attention to the companies offering carbon advisory services that will profit from federal carbon emission controls

  • We pay our carbon taxes to manbearpig.

  • yup..

    google "dci al gore"

  • "But when the Wall Street Journal tried to find the guy who posted the film "Al Gore's Penguin Army" -- listed on YouTube as a 29-year-old -- they found the movie didn't come from an amateur working out of his basement.

    The film actually came from a slick Republican public relations firm called DCI, which just happens to have oil giant Exxon as a client. "

  • abcnews

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  • HAHA. So goddamn right

  • lol! manbearpig <3

  • in my opinion the earth is too important to wait entil we know for sure if global warming is true or not, because then it will be too late to fix it

    better safe than sorry i guess

  • Al Gore sucks.

  • ummmmm.....i luv the ways to stop global warming.

    "Stop exhaling" lol!

  • Al Gore... Al Gore... Hmmm... Oh yeah, thats the guy that uses something like 20 times the amount of energy compared to the average americans. Got it.

  • Thank God for freedom of religion huh, so you can believe whatever you want to believe.

    "The world is flat!" Ok be my guest!

    "Global warming isn't real", Sure, turn the air con to extra cool (while u still can), drink your Koolaid and believe its getting cooler not warmer! Watch your X-men and blame the mutants for the humidity and hurricanes and flooding. Fine! Its your religion afterall--

    Just get out of the f#%king way so that the rest of us can do the real job of saving the planet, stupid!

  • hey jerk, YOUR talking about freedom of religion???!! You libs worship global warming and mother al

  • "The one thing only i know, is that i know nothing" -Socrates

  • NASA Says Climate Shifting to Cooler Temperatures

    The allegedly warming earth is in for about 30 years of cooling according to NASA, one of the leading global warming theory advocates.

    NASA has confirmed that a developing natural climate pattern will likely result in much colder temperatures, according to Marc Shepherd, writing in the April 30 American Thinker.

  • Notes Shepherd "This shift in the PDO, which could last for 20 or 30 years, can have significant implications for global climate, affecting Pacific and Atlantic hurricane activity, droughts and flooding around the Pacific basin, the productivity of marine ecosystems and global land temperature patterns."

  • i think al gore is pretty damn cocky to believe he can control the earths climate. scientists thirty or forty years ago said we should put CO2 into the atmosphere and melt the glaciers because there was "GLOBAL COOLING" ooooooo aaaaaaa. Ps, for all you greenies, al gore is milking you like nobodies bitch. if he actually cared for this "cause" he'd donate the money he made from an inconvenient truth back into the system, but he's greedy and keeps it for himself.

  • In the 1970's we are supposed to be headed for a mini-ice age because we were putting too many hydrocarbons into the air. This conclusion was arrived at because of the frequent and deep snows we would get once or twice a week. We were told that the hydrocarbons were blocking the sunlight and it was causing the planet to cool. A few years later, libs wanted catalytic converters put all all cars to reduce a car's exhaust to carbon dioxide and water vapor to cut pollution.

  • And that's exactly what they got.

    Now cars are still responsible for the so-called green house gasses supposedly warming the Earth. CO2 is not a good insulator. Remember, CO2 and water vapor is what the environmentalists asked for.

    Somewhere in all the noise, we had acid rain, holes in the ozone, Y2K, and vague multi-colored terrorist alerts. None of these were either proven or they suddenly became non-issues.

  • Water vapor is now a greenhouse gas, which is an absurd idea. Do we stop the oceans from evaporating to make them more "green" and "Earth friendly?" Neither is carbon dioxide really a poison. Plants take it in and give back oxygen. We breathe it out and exchange it for oxygen, it's just a normal part of respiration.

  • Can't you militant greens at least change your tactics???"Working for Big Oil" is getting played out.This lie is being exposed to more and more people every year as we enter deeper into the cooling solar cycle.This winter was one of the worst on record,arctic ice grew substantially,&people are starting to say "WTF is up with the cold weather?I thought we were warming?" Gore & the rest of you globalist Nazi's will be ridiculed off the globe as this fraud becomes undefendable(never debated)

  • Facts are facts...no wonder you're getting tired of them.

  • Joe Bastardi of Accuweather[dot]com

    responds to Gore's Comments

    28 Mar 08 - Gore to 60 MINUTES: "Doubting Global Warming Is Manmade Like Believing Earth Is Flat."

    29 Mar08 - Joe Bastardi's response: "UNBELIEVABLE. I am absolutely astounded that someone who refuses to publicly debate anyone on this matter and has no training in the field narrated a movie where frames of nuclear explosions were interspersed in a subliminal way in scenes of droughts and flood, among other major gaffes,

  • Classic Rove.

    Accuse the more open minded, open to debate scientific community of the "THING" neocunts routinely do...silence dissent. Faux Noise, and the neocon wing of the Repug party routinely attack anyone who disagrees with them.

    So, how do they portray those who oppose them?

    They project their own bs upon them; Suggest Gore is unwilling to debate.

    Ironically, EVEN BUSH now admits man contributes to GW. The evidence is irrefutable.

    300MM gallons gas/yr

    19lbs CO2/gallon

  • Snow-water content at Siskiyou Summit an astounding 559 percent of normal - 1 Apr 08

    Record cold in three states - 1 Apr 08

    Record cold for the last week of March at Seattle and Olympia - 31 Mar 08

    Three feet of snow in Cascades in one day - 29 Mar 08

    More snow in the Northwest and the Northeast - 29 Mar 08

    More than 45 inches of snow in five days - 28 Mar 08

    Caribou sets snowfall record - 22 Mar 08

    Winter expected to return to the UK and Western Europe - 2 Apr 08

  • A record 7 meters of snow at Mt Sainte Anne, Quebec - 30 Mar 08

    A White Easter for many in the UK - 23 Mar 08

    Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa could still set records - 19 Mar 08

  • Yep, these socialist/globalist pukes with their "man made" Global Warming lies and energy demands have now caused crops to be grown for fuel over food. The world has been cooling since 98 but we need to rush into bio-fuels. I don't mind paying a little more for pizza but people in the 3rd world will starve. This brutal winter did a number on crops as well.

  • Shit in = shit out.

    False premises & Rove-logic (an oxymoron and moron wrapped into one) lead to flawed conclusions.

    Partial average perturbations in temperature do not make for "climatic trends".

    Energy demands aren't caused by climate change. Energy demands are driven by population & economy.

    The biproducts of carbon fuel-energy causes Climate Change. Burning ethanol doesn't solve the problem, it only slows it.

    The problems are real. Assholes (e.g. you) aren't. So wake up.

  • News flash - go check out the temperature records and charts at NOAA and knock off the lies. We've been cooling since 1998 (hottest year in this current solar warming cycle but no where near as hot as the 1930's-remember the dust bowl?) Ethanol production forced on us by the fascist greens is starving the world and burns dirtier than gas !

  • Shit in = shit out.

    Daily weather is an unreliable predicter of climate change. Any clueless moron would have stumbled over this fact if she got her information from something brighter than Faux noise.

  • can say these things and then have them accepted... by anyone.

    "The list of degreed meteorologists, climatologists, scientists, that signed the Manhatten declaration stating their disagreement with Mssr. Gore's premises grows by the day.

    "What gets me most is he goes on unchallenged one-on-one on this. Never in all my years of competition have I seen someone elevated to a level that he is, in any thing, without any face-to-face competition to establish credibility.

  • "When someone gets a PhD, his or her thesis is normally attacked, for lack of a better word, in something known as the "orals," at least it was for those venturing into those waters at PSU.

    In other words, a group of people still in a higher academic standing than you, one you want to ascend to, will try to get you to defend what you do in a way where you show what you know, not by some programmed unchallenged remark, but by competition with the people that are criticizing.

  • "Why? Because you can defend what you know, if you have worked hard enough. It is typical of the mentality of this person, that he thinks that he should be able to get something for nothing, just go on unchecked, hurling insults at people who have forgotten more than he will ever know.

  • TITLE OF THIS VIDEO...

    YOU TUBE SPOOF NOT SO AMATEURISH.

    BIG OIL HAS TONS OF CASH TO SPEND ON MANIPULATING THE "MESSAGE".

    Exxon/Mobil made ~$40Billion last year. They've set records for profit over the past 8 quarters.

    The strategey? MAKE TONS OF CASH RIPPING OFF US CITIZENS...THEN USE THAT CASH TO "SELL THEM BULLSHIT" TO PROTECT YOUR INDUSTRY.

    Don't be a clown like Corn. Think about who benefits from the propaganda.

  • Sun Loses Its Spots As Solar Cycle 23 Bottoms With A Cold Wet Southern Winter

    Boulder CO (SPX) Jul 25, 2007

    WNASA scientists are keeping a close eye on the sun. It is almost spotless, a sign that the Sun may have reached solar minimum. Scientists are now watching for the first spot of the new solar cycle to appear. The 11 year long solar cycle is marked by 2 extremes, solar minimum and maximum. Solar minimum is the period of least solar activity in the solar cycle of the sun.

  • During this time sunspot and solar flare activity diminishes.

    When spots begin to appear on the sun once again, scientists know that the sun is heading into a new season of extreme solar activity. At the cycle's peak, solar maximum, the sun is continually peppered with spots, solar flares erupt, and the sun hurls billion-ton clouds of electrified gas into space.

    Solar maximum is often compared to the hurricane season here on Earth. Violent solar events, like flares and coronal mass ejections,

  • ->are the hurricanes of space weather. These solar storms are capable of wreaking havoc with satellites, power grids, and radio communication, including the Global Positioning System.

    NOAA's Space Environment Center, Boulder CO, forecasts that the next solar cycle should begin in March 2008 and should peak in late 2011 or mid 2012.

  • Seems CORN has cutting and pasting from his favorite PRO-OIL blog.

    Clever? Or just stupid. U b the judge.

  • Lets see here, solar activity very quiet and we have a severe winter like most places haven't seen in a century. Shouldn't it be getting warmer ???? How did all that ice get back in Antartica ? You GW spammers are the true fascists. Oh yeah, the photographer who took the picture of the polar bears used by Gore called his use of her picture as a fraud.

    Don't fall for this UN socialist BS people, look it up yourself.

  • Typical.

    Dispute overwhelming evidence with unsubstantiated rumors promoted by the Oil Industry.

    Make unsubstantiated claims and pretend normal annual cyclic ice fluctuations disproves GW.

    I'm sure the nascar crowd this faulty logic is intended for, will suck it down like Senator Craig or Foley in an airport bathroom.

  • More Than 17,000 Scientists

    Protest Kyoto Accord

    (As of Dec 2007, the number had climbed to 19,000 scientists)

    Has everyone forgotten this? In April 1998, more than 17,000 scientists,

    two-thirds of whom hold advanced academic degrees, signed a Petition against the Kyoto climate accord. The Petition urged the US government to reject the Accord, which would force drastic cuts in energy use on the United States.

  • In signing the Petition, the 17,000 basic and applied scientists -- an unprecedented number for this kind of document -- expressed their profound skepticism about the science underlying the Kyoto Accord. The atmospheric data simply do not support the elaborate computer-driven climate models that are being cited by the United Nations and other promoters of the Accord as "proof" of a major future warming.

  • The UN & Gore have demonized a naturally occuring & crucial gas by regulating it as a pollutant :) during a naturally occuring warming cycle. Global temperatures have dropped precipitously-Fastest temperature change ever recorded

    26 Feb 08 - Cooling temps nearly wipe out 100 Years of Global Warming. All 4 major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. See Antarctic ice pack running 1.5 MILLION sq. km. above last year's record pace.

  • We call this Karl Rovian approach to science...NEOSCIENCE FROM NEOCUNTS.

  • lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

    thats great Global Warming isnt Real

    im Super Super Cereal

  • that's not very funny... i'm sorry

  • I just watched J Mann of CNN interviewing Gore and Pachauri, Nobel Laureates for 2007. Not surprising to see that Exxon is behind Penguin Army. Making money is not wrong...knowingly destroying this planet is not wrong: it is a criminal action.

    Blas Gibler Jr. International Business Professor. Tampico, Mexico.

  • Now that's the truth about Algore and globalwarming...nice job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Every activist out there has money to burn, and their interests are always to gain more cash. There is profit in almost every single thing if you push the issue correctly. Carbon taxes are coming, and GW is just another scam.

  • they used Linux penguins.

  • Wingnut tactics are getting old. Don't they know we've caught on to their lies? Guess when you don't have any integrity, the only thing to do is lie and twist and spin.

  • This is really an excellent, measured response to the science that offers irrefutable proof of the rise of carbon levels in the atmosphere, not to mention rising temperatures. Seems like a convenient tactic: make a stupid video to get the yokels laughing. Hey, I think Gore was kind of a blowhard in AIT too. But what about the scientific facts? And what about the FACT that DCI Group put this little ditty together. Global retardation is the real danger.

  • Heat causes an increase in the release of C02, not the other way around !!!

  • Al Gore's movie was 25% about how the presidency was stolen from him and his lame political career (waaaa!) His stats and charts were wrong (like when he overlaps his 100 year chart over the 100,000 year chart to exaggerate the graph) Keep it up carmex, I will be banned like the others who have been silenced.

  • CO2 increases are the result of a warming earth, not the cause.

  • Science is clear on source of CO2.

    300ppm+ levels of CO2 have never existed on earth before today.

    CO2 comes from burning fuel.

    $20/barrel Clinton's price of oil

    $70/barrel bush jr.s price of oil

  • $20/barrel Clinton's price of oil

    $70/barrel bush jr.s price of oil

    This guy spams this stupid quote all over the thread.

  • If CO2 comes from burning fuel then who was burning fuel during the warming period a few hundred years ago????

    Co2 increases are the result of an increase in temperature, not the cause.

  • "IF" CO2 comes from burning fuel?

    Burn any carbon containing compound in air and you get CO2. There is no "IF" about it!

    IF you believe co2 comes from somewhere else in quantities sufficient to cause GW, PROVE IT!

  • "Keep it up carmex, I will be banned like the others who have been silenced."

    CARMEX was banned for spamming. No other reason. If you spam you can join him. Play the victim card somewhere else.

  • Excellent Doug! They're all Lt5Lee. Nice to know the govt can only afford a few of these obnoxious folks.

    CornLegionaire is Lt5lee.  SOS.

  • "the presidency was stolen from him and his lame political career (waaaa!)"

    So you figure that democracy is a joke do you? Like it or not, Gore received more actual votes than our current president.

  • I believe in the system of government we have, not in changing the system because we don't like the outcome of a close election.

  • My point is the fact that 25% of his movie about global warming was about Al Gore. What the hell does Al Gore's political career have to do with the environment???? This innaccurate movie was a vehicle for Gore to thrust himself into relevence again, nothing more, nothing less.

  • Might I add: All the fucking pollution he himself makes traveling his rich ass thought the country. If he really cared about global warming, y don't i see him walking? Better yet y do i still see him fat?

  • Too bad that he didn't carry his home state.

  • There is only one other poster using numerous names on this thread. He is not interested in hearing the truth, only in keeping the lie of Global Warming alive for his own selfish profit. Oilegionaire,usus53, and the rest are one in the same. Our intel sources report he works for a bio company that profits from green technology. When the earth starts it's cooling trend again you will hear the classic lib line "If I knew now what I knew then....." Idiots.

  • Right wing FOX are so much more into "free  speech"

  • Suggestion: Make Lt5Lee and his alias (OlL with a lower case l in place of upper case "I") an offer. One I'm sure he can't live up to.

    If he can post 1 verifiable fact that effectively disputes the role of CO2 on GW - and agree to cut his spamming ON ALL SITES, he can stay. If not he & all his aliases are banned.

    bye bye.

  • user "OlLegionnaire" just got blocked for using multiple ids and being dink.

  • 6 offensive comments removed from user "OlLegionnaire".

    By the way this dude finds names that mimic other users and posts as such. Not cool at all.

  • Doug, he changed the lower case "G" to a lower case "Q". His options are out after that. I's, L's, G's & Q's are subject to alteration.

  • It seems the voice of reason has prevailed. Oil industry lackies have only so many deceptions up their sleeves. The latest one empolyed by Carmex (multiple posting of quotes instead of facts) has been successfully addressed.

    Fact is - 98% of informed scientist believe (based upon overwhelming evidence) that man significantly contributes to GW. Most neocons even believe GW is real Now, including Bush.

  • Before Columbus, the great scientists of the day knew for centuries that the world was round. They stayed silent because if they went against the church's docterine they would be accused of being heretics and exiled,tortured, or killed. Today only a few of our scientists dare speak out against the facists of our day and their church of liberalism. Check out CNN's top show host (a non-liberal) on YouTube- Glenn Beck w. Great Global Warming Swindle Producer Durkin

  • Neocons: Fascists of 2007

    Neocons: Oil Industry + Religious Right

    Who Profits from dismissing GW? Neocons

  • OilLegionaire/usus53/lt5lee

    Who profits from spreading the man-made GW lie? Green Companies like the ones who pay for your services. We know you are working for companies that benefit from agro alt fuels that are supposedly cleaner burning (another lie). You are the hypocrite.

  • No one profits from the truth about GW.

    But the Oil Industry will suffer, and they're retaliating.

    The fringe faux noise types dismiss GW. They're the same fools that bought Bush's bullshit on WMDs. They believe Saddam and al qaeda were working together.

    They believe in the nice drugs Pfizer makes.

    They believe God is on their side.

    Intelligent people get it.

  • Clever Corn. When it's obvious that the oil companies will suffer when the Truth about GW is accepted - the Oil Industry projects a similar scenario and asserts the Green's will suffer.

    It's genius. It's stupid, but it's genius. The neocons have already proven there are at least 30% of americans who will believe anything their right wing master tell them.

  • Your obviously ignoring the new carbon credits that utility companies are investing in. Most of the hype being created is just sensational. Not to mention people are treating this almost like a secular religion, yet unwilling to change themselves. I wish you guys would stop being so hypocritical when it comes to issues like these, and expect everyone to change, but you in the meantime aren't doing a single thing.

  • No one profits from a "GW Lie" because there is no lie. The obvious question you ignore is...WHO PROFITS FROM TRYING TO UNDERMINE THE GW TRUTH? OIL INDUSTRY!

    $18/BARREL oil price under clinton

    $98/BARREL oil price under bush jr.

    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

  • Shut up Scott you Soros Socialist buttbuddy. You've been exposed, as a former Dow Chemical employee and as a paid spammer.

    Approximately 80% of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons released by vegetation, so let's not go overboard in setting and enforcing tough emission standards from man-made sources.

    Ronald Reagan

  • What evidence does Piers have to support that claim.

    Why does carmex just post quotes instead of FACTS?

    Because he doesn't have any. What he does prove is that the xtian right & oil industry have influenced a few scientist. Funny what money does for unethical academics.

  • It5lee, obviously Piers has no evidence to support his claim. The parroting act of Carmex can't answer unscripted questions.

    I wonder how much they pay him?

  • "Even the radical left wing New York Times said that."

    -- hey doofus, "New York Times" ain't exactly radical. Cheney and Scooter used it as a propaganda machine to get us into Iraq.

  • I just removed another 13 duplicate spam comments from user "carmexworks". He has sent out a waves of spam on a couple of previous occasions. I deleted the duplicates and sent him a warning. His petulant reply to this was "i don't care what you do". So here we go.

    carmexworks has just made his presence unwanted. He is blocked.

  • This is typical of the viewpoint that carmex works represents.

    They keep repeating the same lines time after time, believing that if the same slogan is repeated enough times it somehow becomes true. Oh well, in his defense, El Presidente Bush does the same thing and it is not working for him either.

    As Kurt Vonnegut would say,"So it goes".

  • Doug, I think carmex is part of that neocon network employing multiple posts to exclude others from the front page.

    He's a waste of time.

  • Sounds reasonable to me.

  • another carmexworks "spam" duplicate post removed.

  • Answer OIL, who's paying you?

  • Apparently, someone has compiled these excerpts for the Oil Industry lackies to use to try and persuade others.

    Interesting how you reference others talking vaguely about Gore or the film. Not one substantive piece of verifiable evidence to dispute the science.

    carmex= oil industry lacky.

  • WOW, carmex. You must think what you have to say is really important. >10 posts in 2 hours.

    What single source are you getting all your quotes from?

  • Currently, Al Gore is not a politician. He's a private citizen producing a film with climate and social relevance.

    So your comment on rules that apply can be disregarded.

  • Hey Carm, I just wanted to compliment you on the size of the knife you brought to this gunfight.

    Dummy.

  • Gore's movie made the case. The overwhelming majority of climatologists acknowledge the science supports human CO2 production is contributing to GW.

    The burden of disproof is with the Oil Industry. So far, the carmex JOKE hasn't proved anything other than quotes from ideologues like Siegfried.

  • Stats:

    Carmex started posting regularly 10 pgs ago (~1wk).

    Carmex has made 49 posts in that time.

    When Carmex appeared, telen & stopliberalies disappeared.

    Carmex is a paid propagandist for the Oil Industry.

    Carmex - BE HONEST, WHO IS PAYING YOU?

  • Give me a break! Siegfried Singer?

    He is best known as President and founder (in 1990) of the Science & Environmental Policy Project, which disputes the prevailing scientific opinion on climate change. He also disputes the connection between CFCs and ozone depletion.

  • Your Kalus quote is irrelevant to the discussion carmex. Oh, BTW - carmexworks

    Joined: May 06, 2007

    Last Login: 7 hours ago

    Videos Watched: 6

    You are a very recent subscriber Carmex. Where have I seen your "style" of posts before?

    Have you been banned from any sites?

    Answer truthfully.

  • Why disregard a movie that relies on irrefutable scientific data to make a rational conclusion about man's contribution to global warming?

    To do otherwise is irrational.

  • carmex that is just so unkind.

    Keep slopping the quotes up and will respond. If you don't like it, that is just too friggin bad.

  • Carmex, You have posted a lot of comments (like 17 at a time) to which I have responded. You have something like 50 comments on this thread. You say that I have 28 dealing with you. Sounds like I owe you some.

  • Not only that, you have posted the same quote, by the same source, as many as 4 times. I have deleted a bunch of these multiple posts and have warned you about this in a private message.

  • No, unlike you he shows intelligence. You cherry pick comments from what he says to promote your view point.

  • "al gore is a politician, and never has been president. he has been leader of none"

    - and not only that he scares the hell out of the Republicans.

  • "We are not saying that we don't believe that there can be significant global warming. As John [Christy] said, if you add CO2, something has to change. But things are changing all the time anyway. The big question is: So what? How much is it going to change, compared to other things? And what can you do about it?"

    --Roy Spencer, Source: George Marshall Institute Roundtable April 2006

    Hmmm, He seems to be saying that Global Warming is a reality and that CO2 is a factor.

  • Almost forgot to mention it but Siegfried Frederick Singer is a bit of a rent-scientific-spokesperson who has worked as a consultant for big oil and big tobacco.

  • Hey carmex, You missed this quote from Michael Griffin:

    I'm aware that global warming exists. I understand that the bulk of scientific evidence accumulated supports the claim that we've had about a one degree centigrade rise in temperature over the last century to within an accuracy of 20 percent. I'm also aware of recent findings that appear to have nailed down — pretty well nailed down the conclusion that much of that is manmade. Whether that is a longterm concern or not, I can't say.

  • It is from his NPR interview of May 31, 2007.

    This is the money shot from it, "I'm also aware of recent findings that appear to have nailed down — pretty well nailed down the conclusion that much of that is manmade."

    This is one of your sources saying that much of global warming is manmade.

  • He is also a documentary film maker synthesizing and presenting ideas of others.

  • Vaclav Klaus is political leader and an economist, not a scientist. He is the President of the Czech Republic which has the population of 10,306,709. How exactly does this make his opinions on Global Warming significant?

  • If you are going to quote political leaders who are not scientists why not quote Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger from California which has a much larger economy and population than the Czech Republic.

    "Today, California will be a leader in the fight against global warming," Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger told a United Nations conference on the environment on Wednesday. "I say the debate is over. We know the science, we see the threat and we know the time for action is now," he said.

  • It was a Canadian law suit; he sued a Canadian paper in the oil capital of Canada and he had to back down. Calgary newspapers are by no mean hostile toward the oil industry.

  • He went to court over this and had to back down. He padded his résumé big time as well.

    Propaganda seems to be facts that you do not like.

  • You have a hard time with facts. If they are not in agreement with your 'beliefs' they are propaganda, attacks, or lies.

    You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

  • In September, 2006, Ball filed suit against Johnson and four editors at the Calgary Herald newspaper for $325,000 for, among other things, "damages to his income earning capacity as a sought after speaker with respect to global warming".

  • In its response (point 50(d), p12), the Calgary Herald stated that "The Plantiff (Dr. Ball) is viewed as a paid promoter of the agenda of the oil and gas industry rather than as a practicing scientist."(Original statement of claim, Defendant Johnson's answer, Defendant Calgary Herald's answer). In June 2007, Ball abandoned the suit.

  • Going back to the point knucklehead.

    I quoted Carl Wunsch from an article that he wrote. In this article he said that his position was completely represented in the "Global Warming Swindle" doc.

    You called me a liar and stupid because you are so full of 'talking points' and too doctrinaire to do any research on your own.

  • I have said nothing about the causes of global warming.

    I have quoted Carl Wunsch's statement, "believe that climate change is real, a major threat, and almost surely has a major human-induced component."

    I guess in your mind Carl Wunsch is just not an expert anymore because he does not agree with you 'belief'.

  • "if youre relying on quotes you find in the internet then youre stupid"

    So carmexworks, did you figure out the Google yet? Did you figure out how to find that darned Carl Wunsch published commentary that makes you look like an idiot?

  • What other card does one need to explain why you spend sooooo much time promoting the big oil agenda? Just a concerned citizen? I don't think so.

    This isn't propaganda, it's rational fact.

  • Mr. Gore presents data.

    Data allows everyone, even those intellectually challenged or politically agendized to draw their own conclusions.

    Unlike your inaccurate posts carmex/StopLib, you present no data to dispute the science.

    Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude you are here to "spin" and "confuse" and to occupy the front page.

    That tactic can be found in section 31, part 18 par 84 of your field manual.

  • Carmex & StopLiberalLies are reincarnations of neocon spammer Lt5Lee.

    DoD Directive S-3321.1, "Overt Psychological Operations Conducted by the Military Services in Peacetime and in Contingencies Short of Declared War"

    Pentagon Funds Diplomacy Effort Contracts Aim to Improve Foreign Opinion of United States, by Merle, Washington Post, 11 June 2005.

  • Do I have to spell it out for you doofus? "Carl Wunsch: I should never have trusted Channel 4" is an article that Carl Wunsch wrote for a UK paper called "the Independent". It was published March 17 of this year.

    I guess you are like George Bush, still getting used to the Google.

  • I thought this was about science. Where do "beliefs" fit into the picture?

    You want to prove a case, go ahead and do so. The reason that I posted this video in the first place was because of the creepy nature of the attack on Gore that was funded by big oil.

  • Dude,

    Do this. \

    Enter this as a search term in Google "Carl Wunsch: I should never have trusted Channel 4", This could be stretch, but I will make the assumption that you know how to read.

  • It was not "my view on Carl Wunsch" it was a direct quote from him.

  • Furthermore, when you call somebody's bluff, you should have the cards to back it up.

  • Whatever.

    You like to post comments from 'skeptics'. I am just inviting you to post more that's all.

    Go for it.

  • Doug, heck his 3 skeptics out of 5K believers in academia is a coup!

    It would be cool if one of these guys would dispute the correlation between historic CO2 levels & GW. So far, I've heard weird science like -

    - it's the sun (no proof)

    - it's agricultural methane's fault (not energy)

    - the whole solar sysem is warming (fautly references).

    Why do we even waist our time on these oil industry pretenders.

  • Why don't you google it dude? Not out of context and not fabricated.

  • I did not play the oil card. He did. He just happens to write articles for an outfit funded by Exxon.

  • Robert M. "Bob" Carter is a research professor in the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University, Australia.

    He has written articles on global warming for Tech Central Station, which received 63% of its income in 2003 from ExxonMobil.

  • John Christy says "I've often heard it said that there is a consensus of thousands of scientists on the Global Warming issue...Well, I am one scientist, and there are many, that simply think that is not true." - fair enough carmexworks. You have posted quotes from 5 dissenters. Please post more, 5 is somewhat less than thousands.

  • I believe that climate change is real, a major threat, and almost surely has a major human-induced component. But I have tried to stay out of the `climate wars' because all nuance tends to be lost, and the distinction between what we know firmly, as scientists, and what we suspect is happening, is so difficult to maintain in the presence of rhetorical excess.

    --Carl Wunsch (one of the scientists whose work was misrepresented in "The Great Global Warming Swindle"

  • Carl Wunsch - Cecil and Ida Green Professor of Physical Oceanography - Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences- Massachusetts Institute of Technology

  • Global Warming is a political sham and Al Gore's army of idiots and blind followers should be ridiculed for life. Another liberal attempt to distort the truth for the masses. Hitler would be proud.

  • Where are you coming from? A generic YouTuber you are not.

    StopLiberalLies - Joined: June 17, 2007 - Last Login: 5 hours ago - Videos Watched: 0

  • Doug - stoplib, telen, lt5lee (all one) is trying to adopt a tactic that has been used effectively against him.

    The problem is - they're neocon propagandists, probably paid by either psyop funds or the civilian equivalent so they make easy targets for parodies.

    Their not the sharpest knives in the drawer. Propagandists can't parody those who are willing to engage in a factual debate.

  • Hey Doug, he even admits that he is a spammer and you still won't ban this nut and his numerous aliases. Typical liberal philosophy- spin and distort .

    My organization knows everything about this nut. I receive millions from Big Oil to sit on Youtube and debate nuts like him. Trust me, from what we have gleened he is really in need of mental help.

  • A "liberal nut" with facts & resources & reason" is the oil industry's worst nightmare.

    The science is overwhelming. Even Bush is on the bandwagon, so you're not just a busy; you're pure oil industry.

  • My reference is the very reputable space dot com. Your ignorance and rush to post more spam probably caused you to miss it in my post. Stop promoting UN propaganda liberal spammer.

  • Make sure to remember all these idiots and blind followers after the facts about Solar Warming become to strong for our liberal media to ignore. They should be ridiculed for eternity.

  • Blind followers!?#$%

    The faux-science you pretend to have (without references) is blind.

    Pull your head from your methane producing arse.

  • Lets call Global Warming by it's real name, "Solar Warming". It's the sun ya big dummy.

  • Let's call opposition to Global Warming by it's real name, "Oil Industry Propaganda".

    If it was something other than CO2, there factless morons would post the science. One problem, there is no science to support the "solar" claim. Data has been collected for 1 solar martian year, which is insufficient to draw any conclusions about solar system warming.

  • Examinations of ancient tree rings and other data show temperatures declined starting in the 13th Century, bottomed out at 2 degrees below the long-term average during the 17th Century, and did not climb back to previous levels until the late 19th Century.

  • Separate records of sunspots, auroral activity (the Northern Lights) and terrestrial deposits of certain substances generated in atmospheric reactions triggered by solar output, suggest the Sun was persistently active prior to the onset of this Little Ice Age, as scientists call the event.

    Solar activity was lowest during the 17th Century, when Earth was most frigid.

    Space[dot]com

  • Bullshit. No references, just bullshit. Exxon/Mobil science with a touch of creationism.

  • Bullshit. No references, just bullshit.

  • Attention all!

    This is my video which males me the defacto moderator of this so called forum. I am getting pissed off with the stupid stuff. If you wish to make points, please feel free to do so. Flat out meaness and irrelevant comments will be yanked. Comments that I decide to be spam will be yanked.

    Overlord dougzilla has spoken.

  • OIL INDUSTRY PROPAGANDISTS ASSERT:

    "Villages found under glaciers"

    "CO2 comes from oceans like a soda bottle"

    "The Sun heats the earth, not humans"

    "Methane from cows is worse than CO2"

    "The solar system is warming"

    Strategy: Attack Gore, try to make him look silly.

    ALL BULLSHIT.

    WHO DOESN'T WANT THE TRUTH OUT?

    Oil Companies.

  • w-w-w-geotimes-org/apr05/trend­s-html

    Click the link to learn about bodies in the melting glaciers that proves the glacier was smaller in the past.

  • We've been over this before telen.

    You used to say "villages" buried beneath glaciers. Anyone who knows about glaciation knows not much survives "under" them. Things found "in" glaciers prove nothing about climate change.

  • Strategy: Attack Gore, try to make him look silly.

    His own party is begging him to tone it down, much like the duct tape they put on Kerry's mouth. 2 idiots that prove their ignorance and agenda time and time again.

  • The Oil Industry/neocon capitalist strategy is clear - attack gore. They don't have the science to they resort to Rovian tactics.

    telen is a propagandist without facts promoting their agenda.

  • Gas hasn't increased gradually over time.

    Gas spiked after `73 because OPEC punished countries that supported Israel in the Yom Kippur war.

    It spiked again in 2003 after Bush invaded Iraq.

    The remaining time, oil averaged ~$20/barrel with no significant increase during the interim years.

    THOSE ARE FACTS!!

  • Let's get back to something real. For example: Bush lied to invade iraq for Oil. Not to pump it, but to seize it and shut it off!

    ~$20/barrel (price of oil under clinton)

    >$60/barrel (price of oil under bush)

    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!

  • Irag violated numerous UN sanctions. Saddam was making a mockery of the treaty that he signed. He was also frequently shooting at our planes in the no fly zone. Several nations thought that he had weapons of mass destruction, and it still isn't clear if he did or not. The members of congree must be gullible,because Bush was able to fool almost all of them into voting for "his war". Conspiracy theories like yours are used when facts aren't known.

  • Thatch, we went to war because Bush deliberately misled congress & UN about "an imminent threat" that the intel simply did not support. By intel, I'm NOT talking about Feith's twisted "intel products" illegally coming out of the "policy" office.

    Whether he was a "bad man" or violating sanctions is irrelevant, since they were NOT the justification Bush used to get Congressional, UN and citizen support.

  • An Inconvenient Truth - Great or Greatest Documentary? C'mon sayno & Aeric & telen - which is it?

    Grossed over $46MM

    Sundance Film Festival: 3 standing ovations

    Reviews

    Rotten Tomatoes: 93%

    Cream of the Crop: 94%

    Ebert & Roper: 2 Thumbs Up

    2007 Academy Award for Documentary Feature

    2007 Stanley Kramer Award

  • I think they come here to make sure you paid propagandist from the Oil Industry don't spread too many lies.

    Not worried. Green IS the new red, white and blue.

    Wise people don't need convincing, just data.

    You "my myopic butt boy for the oil industry" are taking it up the ass. Even that asshole bush wants to talk about it. Did you read the paper today?

  • An Inconvenient Truth - Great or Greatest Documentary? C'mon sayno & Aeric & telen - which is it?

    Grossed over $46MM

    Sundance Film Festival: 3 standing ovations

    Reviews

    Rotten Tomatoes: 93%

    Cream of the Crop: 94%

    Ebert & Roper: 2 Thumbs Up

    2007 Academy Award for Documentary Feature

    2007 Stanley Kramer Award

  • Best Science Fiction movie ??? Naw it sucked period

  • So...you didn't see it.

    When you do...take our quiz:

    Great or Greatest Documentary Ever?

    U might win a night at a Motel 6 near Des Moines. That should be a real treat for you and the missus.