well it is a little bad to be slav. and especially south slav. because the word slav is synonym to the english word slave which comes from the latin sclavus which comes from the Greek sklabos used to denote the slaves (slavs) taken from the north area of the Byzantine Empire. See now, they are a disgrace to the slavic people because they gave the whole world a synonym to slav: slave. that is to bad for slavomacedonians. but it is worst to try to steal the Greek history in order to hide your past
i cannot understand why you cant be proud about being slavs? it is your origins it is YOUR history and macedonia is OUR history .... its like you want to prove something that cant be , like 1+1=45 IT JUST CANT BE !!!! It is not bad to be slav. Your country name REAL name is VARDASKA. STOP STEALING OUR NAMES AND OUR HISTORY!!!!
Kiro gave that statement not because he believed in those words, but because that was the only way to establish the MACEDONIAN independence in that time when we were pressed by Greece. This was just a hipocrisy from his side striving to prevent the imminent bloodshed that would have resulted if Macedonia hadn't established the urgent independence and separation from Yugoslavia.
THE PEOPLE IN FYROM BELONG TO SLAVS AND ALSO FYROMIAN LANGUAGE BASED ON SLAVIC ALPHABET LIKE RUSSIAN ETC. SLAVS CAME IN EUROPE IN MIDDLE AGES AND BECAME CHRISTIANS. GREECE HAS ANCIENT CULTURE IN THE AREA OF MEDDITERANEAN SEA. FYROM IS NEWLY ESTABLISHED STATE. WHAT IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN SCOPJA AND ANCIENT GREEK MACEDONIA?
I can't understand, why do you steal other countries histories. People from Skopje, try to set youselves free from that propaganda that you live everyday in your schools and in you own families. You have a great history, you have achieve great things but greek history is something totally different and you can't adopt something foreign.
good work my friend..respect from scandinavia..! they should stop being puppets and find their own history not trying to steal the greek one! well done, finally someone says the truth!
@DonCorleoneGR Do you know what Kiro Gligorov recognized himself as? A Macedonian. He does not support Greece, and he is not a traitor here, he is seen as the father of the nation by many. Also keep in mind how you Greeks treated him, specifically with the embargo, and how the guy who engineered all that (Samaras) could possibly be the next Greek PM. Gligorov does not furnish support for your side, he exemplifies Greek intransigence.
I respect him...he was not afraid of telling the TRUTH on which are the macedonians...I heard the news recently that he died and i feel sorry for FYROM cause your nation needed a person like this to open your eyes
THIS PRESIDENT DIED AND THIS POOR BASTARDS TOOK HIM TO THE SEMETTERY WITH ONLY A SMALL A PICK UP TRUCK SHAME ON YOU AND YOUR COUNTRY FOR NOT HONORING THIS MAN YOU TREATED HIM LIKE A JIPSIE THATS WHY ALLWAYS THE WORLD IS LAUGHING WITH YOU
тоа е добро што словени,а зашто не Македонци??сите знаат дека не постои Словенска нација тоа не е идентитет,словени се именува во културолошкото однесување,неможе да биде идентитет,затоа што Комунистичкиот режим го креирал како идентитет па се Создаде СССР а после Југо-славија или попросто јужно словени
па така да вие сте творба на пропагандата бес навреда ама така е
@darkomk1 не Македонци, щото никои не може да е Македонец и по същото време да е и Славянец. То просто не става.
""па така да вие сте творба на пропагандата бес навреда ама така е""
По това съм съгласен, но само до един етап. Ако ти се пише повече, прати ми лично съобщение да поговориме, много ми е интересно да разбера нещата от твоя гледна точка!
ЗАШТО КАЖАВ ЗАШТО НЕ МАКЕДОНЦИ!!ЗАТОА ШТО СЛОВЕНСКИ ИДЕНТИТЕТ НЕМА,И ТОЈ НЕМОЖЕ НА НАС ИЛИ НА ВАС ДА НИ БИДЕ ИДЕНТИТЕТ ЗАШТО ЗАТОА ШТО ВИЕ ИМАТЕ ИДЕНТИТЕТ БУГАРСКИ,НИЕ МАКЕДОНСКИ,А ДОДЕКА СЕ НАМЕТНУВА КАКО ИДЕНТИТЕТ СЛОВЕНСКОТО ТУКА НЕ САМО СЛОВЕНСКАТА КУЛТУРА Е НАВРЕДЕНА НАВРЕДЕНИ СЕ И ЗЕМЈИТЕ КОЈ СЕ СО СОЛОВЕНСКА ПИСМЕНОСТ ЗНАЕМЕ КОЈ СЕ НЕЛИ
ЗАТОА ВЕЛАМ ДЕКА НЕМОЖЕ ДА БИДЕ НА ЕДЕН НАРОД СЛОВЕНСКИ ИДЕНТИТЕТ ТОА Е НАВРЕДА НА СЛОВЕНИЗМОТ
@darkomk1 Добер вечер! Батко, не съм Бугарин, Кипарец съм... малко далече припадам от балканите, да, го знам, но винаги ми е било много интересно да четам, да терся исторята и за това ми е много интересно да Ви разбера. Искам да разбера, как и защо си мислите, как и защо верувате че сте Македонци.
И защо мразите толкова Бугарите и Грците... искам да разбера, за това ти казвам, ако ти се пише, ако имаш време да продолжиме разговора по личните съобщеня щото тука не ни дава много място за пишене..
Ние не мразиме ни Бугари ни Грци,Додека не ја сменат политиката Грција и Бугарија кон нас ќе биде вака како што е
Јас верувам затоа што сум Македонец,во географска етничка Македонија се наоѓам и секако дека се чуствувам Македонец,како што ти се чуствуваш како Кипарец,и таму живееш.
И,самите Грци викаат за нас дека сме славо Македонци,значи има Македонци,но политиката во грција се плаши од друг проблем,и затоа до вакви проблеми сме со Грците
јас иначе имам роднини во Егејска Македонија или како викат грците незнам,имам и пријатели Грци,но тие пријатели поинаку ја гледаат мојата држава,немаат проблем да ја наречат мојата држава Македонија,значи не се такви Грци како тука што има,тука на овој сајт има нациналисти партиски членови има и во влада што работат,а вака обичниот Грк нема проблем со нас,и затоа реков дека немаме проблеми со Грчките луѓе или Граѓани на Грција,има некој лоши ама се малце таквите
GLIGOROV IS THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS HISTORY!!!ALEXANDER WAS GREEK EVEN LITTLE CHILDREN KNOW THAT!MACEDONIA IS A PLACE IN NORTH GREECE AND THE CAPITAL CITY OF MACEDONIA TERRATORY, IS THESSALONIKI!PERIOD!!!!(FOR THE UNEDUCATED).
I bet you're a payed greek agent sent into Macedonia to sow discourse and plunge the country into chaos. Much easier for gayreeks to then simply march in and claim it for their own by power of arms. As they've done in the past with many places.
@myowngenesis ..... still we are trying to find out where these people came from.... The reality is that definitely are not what they claim they are...
The most probable theory is the Slavic ansestry. But even so, they should keep whatever name they choose without neighbouring countries start choking on the prospect
@myowngenesis i see that you like "learning" about politics and since you are an Albanian from Kosovo u must be informed of whatever is happening to the region but not what the US and others are trying to serve you. As long as for the Monkeydonias of course is of Slavic ansectryeveryone knows the truth except of the sourounding morans who hate the Greeks. Take a look watch?v=5SMJPPXsGEI
@SakisK12 but why does that bother you, that they choose to be called macedonian? Why do you call them monkeydonian? And don't you worry, I know more than I should know about the american motives and interests in the region. I'm a leftist btw, so I'm not as wideeyed about US as many of my fellow Albanians are. But still, I do not think that blowing issues out of proportion and harnessing natinalism and patriotism is the way to go. And I'm very much against "free" markets taking over everywhere
to be honest, I very much doubt you're very forthcoming of what you are. Seriously, you're gonna force an entire society to change their chosen identity, BEACUSE some xenophobic maniacal greek patriots wants you to?
@StefanovTeacher Congrattulations fellow... What all in Fyrom should understand is that you should be proud for your TRUE origins! You are Slavs and you should be proud about that, you don t need to claim any other intentity!
well it is a little bad to be slav. and especially south slav. because the word slav is synonym to the english word slave which comes from the latin sclavus which comes from the Greek sklabos used to denote the slaves (slavs) taken from the north area of the Byzantine Empire. See now, they are a disgrace to the slavic people because they gave the whole world a synonym to slav: slave. that is to bad for slavomacedonians. but it is worst to try to steal the Greek history in order to hide your past
lokapos 1 day ago
i cannot understand why you cant be proud about being slavs? it is your origins it is YOUR history and macedonia is OUR history .... its like you want to prove something that cant be , like 1+1=45 IT JUST CANT BE !!!! It is not bad to be slav. Your country name REAL name is VARDASKA. STOP STEALING OUR NAMES AND OUR HISTORY!!!!
kokusakos7 2 days ago
Kiro gave that statement not because he believed in those words, but because that was the only way to establish the MACEDONIAN independence in that time when we were pressed by Greece. This was just a hipocrisy from his side striving to prevent the imminent bloodshed that would have resulted if Macedonia hadn't established the urgent independence and separation from Yugoslavia.
carli2302 4 days ago
at last fyrom has educated people who do not live in ethnic illusions
JIMDP25 4 days ago
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THE PEOPLE IN FYROM BELONG TO SLAVS AND ALSO FYROMIAN LANGUAGE BASED ON SLAVIC ALPHABET LIKE RUSSIAN ETC. SLAVS CAME IN EUROPE IN MIDDLE AGES AND BECAME CHRISTIANS. GREECE HAS ANCIENT CULTURE IN THE AREA OF MEDDITERANEAN SEA. FYROM IS NEWLY ESTABLISHED STATE. WHAT IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN SCOPJA AND ANCIENT GREEK MACEDONIA?
marios936 1 week ago
u live in Macedonian, and u were born in Macedonia, u learn the language BOOM u a Macedoninan even though u r not
HybodusStudios 1 week ago
IN FYROM WE ARE BULGARIANS,MORE THAN THE BULGARIANS,ONE DAY WE SHOULD BE UNITED.
fyr0mbulgarian 2 weeks ago 3
I can't understand, why do you steal other countries histories. People from Skopje, try to set youselves free from that propaganda that you live everyday in your schools and in you own families. You have a great history, you have achieve great things but greek history is something totally different and you can't adopt something foreign.
Psarrianos 2 weeks ago
sometimes the truth hurts
it seems this president accept it
panashonik 2 weeks ago
the truth will say da si go jajte kurot site!
Dirthbag 2 weeks ago
the truth would be to say that they are bulgarians
ultraV1r 3 weeks ago
good work my friend..respect from scandinavia..! they should stop being puppets and find their own history not trying to steal the greek one! well done, finally someone says the truth!
christianotelo 1 month ago 22
it takes courage to show such value in times like this.
for your people,you are considered as a traitor.
i cannot blame them though,cause such is todays society,and that is what they teach you there.
but...we thank you for properly studying history and for not being afraid to tell the truth.
thank you,friend.
DonCorleoneGR 1 month ago 4
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@DonCorleoneGR Do you know what Kiro Gligorov recognized himself as? A Macedonian. He does not support Greece, and he is not a traitor here, he is seen as the father of the nation by many. Also keep in mind how you Greeks treated him, specifically with the embargo, and how the guy who engineered all that (Samaras) could possibly be the next Greek PM. Gligorov does not furnish support for your side, he exemplifies Greek intransigence.
CodeRazzmatazz 1 month ago
I respect him...he was not afraid of telling the TRUTH on which are the macedonians...I heard the news recently that he died and i feel sorry for FYROM cause your nation needed a person like this to open your eyes
asfaehey 1 month ago
Congratulations for your courage to show such a big Truth.
yorgosgster 1 month ago
THIS PRESIDENT DIED AND THIS POOR BASTARDS TOOK HIM TO THE SEMETTERY WITH ONLY A SMALL A PICK UP TRUCK SHAME ON YOU AND YOUR COUNTRY FOR NOT HONORING THIS MAN YOU TREATED HIM LIKE A JIPSIE THATS WHY ALLWAYS THE WORLD IS LAUGHING WITH YOU
karpathos1001 1 month ago
@karpathos1001 what the fuck are you talking about?
he wanted a private, non-religious burial. you want us to disrespect his wishes?
CodeRazzmatazz 1 month ago
μπραβο.
alexxxandros1 1 month ago
ΕΣΤΙΝ ΟΥΝ ΕΛΛΑΣ ΚΑΙ Η ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ ΣΤΡΑΒΩΝ 63 πΧ - 23 μΧ
IF YOU CAN READ THIS THEN YOU ARE REAL MACEDONIAN.
IF NOT, YOU ARE JUST A "NEWCOMING" SLAV LIVING IN A LITTLE PART OF ANCIENT MACEDONIA.
DimitrisGR8 2 months ago 9
Нйе Сме Словени!!! Това е, браво!
cavemancyproductions 2 months ago
@cavemancyproductions
тоа е добро што словени,а зашто не Македонци??сите знаат дека не постои Словенска нација тоа не е идентитет,словени се именува во културолошкото однесување,неможе да биде идентитет,затоа што Комунистичкиот режим го креирал како идентитет па се Создаде СССР а после Југо-славија или попросто јужно словени
па така да вие сте творба на пропагандата бес навреда ама така е
darkomk1 2 months ago
@darkomk1 не Македонци, щото никои не може да е Македонец и по същото време да е и Славянец. То просто не става.
""па така да вие сте творба на пропагандата бес навреда ама така е""
По това съм съгласен, но само до един етап. Ако ти се пише повече, прати ми лично съобщение да поговориме, много ми е интересно да разбера нещата от твоя гледна точка!
cavemancyproductions 2 months ago
@cavemancyproductions
ЗАШТО КАЖАВ ЗАШТО НЕ МАКЕДОНЦИ!!ЗАТОА ШТО СЛОВЕНСКИ ИДЕНТИТЕТ НЕМА,И ТОЈ НЕМОЖЕ НА НАС ИЛИ НА ВАС ДА НИ БИДЕ ИДЕНТИТЕТ ЗАШТО ЗАТОА ШТО ВИЕ ИМАТЕ ИДЕНТИТЕТ БУГАРСКИ,НИЕ МАКЕДОНСКИ,А ДОДЕКА СЕ НАМЕТНУВА КАКО ИДЕНТИТЕТ СЛОВЕНСКОТО ТУКА НЕ САМО СЛОВЕНСКАТА КУЛТУРА Е НАВРЕДЕНА НАВРЕДЕНИ СЕ И ЗЕМЈИТЕ КОЈ СЕ СО СОЛОВЕНСКА ПИСМЕНОСТ ЗНАЕМЕ КОЈ СЕ НЕЛИ
ЗАТОА ВЕЛАМ ДЕКА НЕМОЖЕ ДА БИДЕ НА ЕДЕН НАРОД СЛОВЕНСКИ ИДЕНТИТЕТ ТОА Е НАВРЕДА НА СЛОВЕНИЗМОТ
darkomk1 2 months ago
@darkomk1 Добер вечер! Батко, не съм Бугарин, Кипарец съм... малко далече припадам от балканите, да, го знам, но винаги ми е било много интересно да четам, да терся исторята и за това ми е много интересно да Ви разбера. Искам да разбера, как и защо си мислите, как и защо верувате че сте Македонци.
И защо мразите толкова Бугарите и Грците... искам да разбера, за това ти казвам, ако ти се пише, ако имаш време да продолжиме разговора по личните съобщеня щото тука не ни дава много място за пишене..
cavemancyproductions 2 months ago
@cavemancyproductions
Ние не мразиме ни Бугари ни Грци,Додека не ја сменат политиката Грција и Бугарија кон нас ќе биде вака како што е
Јас верувам затоа што сум Македонец,во географска етничка Македонија се наоѓам и секако дека се чуствувам Македонец,како што ти се чуствуваш како Кипарец,и таму живееш.
И,самите Грци викаат за нас дека сме славо Македонци,значи има Македонци,но политиката во грција се плаши од друг проблем,и затоа до вакви проблеми сме со Грците
darkomk1 2 months ago
@cavemancyproductions
јас иначе имам роднини во Егејска Македонија или како викат грците незнам,имам и пријатели Грци,но тие пријатели поинаку ја гледаат мојата држава,немаат проблем да ја наречат мојата држава Македонија,значи не се такви Грци како тука што има,тука на овој сајт има нациналисти партиски членови има и во влада што работат,а вака обичниот Грк нема проблем со нас,и затоа реков дека немаме проблеми со Грчките луѓе или Граѓани на Грција,има некој лоши ама се малце таквите
darkomk1 2 months ago
@cavemancyproductions
Иначе знам и Грчки да зборувам,сум учел школо во Грција,ако знаете што е Пареласи на Грчки?тоа е празник на школото,јас застанав да држам Грчко знаме
darkomk1 2 months ago
@darkomk1 много се радвам че говориш и грцки батко! Така ще се разбереме и по-лесно! Испратих ти сега лично съобщенйе :)
cavemancyproductions 2 months ago
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ThePJcompany 6 months ago
serbs back to belgrade !!
leave macedonia alone with your lies and propaganda
IllyriaLion 8 months ago
GLIGOROV IS THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS HISTORY!!!ALEXANDER WAS GREEK EVEN LITTLE CHILDREN KNOW THAT!MACEDONIA IS A PLACE IN NORTH GREECE AND THE CAPITAL CITY OF MACEDONIA TERRATORY, IS THESSALONIKI!PERIOD!!!!(FOR THE UNEDUCATED).
ElisavetfromGreece 8 months ago 8
@myowngenesis you said, ...force an entire society to change their chosen identity, ...
chosen identity ??...perfect, lol,
It is not up to us and we can't steal others identity.
We are Bulgarians and nothing will change that.
Peace Brother.
makedonchesto 10 months ago 3
@myowngenesis you have big fantasy brother, lol
Anyone who telling the truth is a communist, or a...Greek paid agent.
Do you really think this way ? and do you really think our 1st presindent Kiro Gligorov took money from the Greeks ?
and what about all others who say we are not ancient macedonians ?
one example,
GEORGI STRADELOV Bio-bibliographical notes on members македонски
aesthetician, essayist, literary theorist and critic. Former president of the Macedonian P.E.N. GOOGLE !
makedonchesto 10 months ago
Truer words have never been spoken.
trisnna9801 10 months ago
I bet you're a payed greek agent sent into Macedonia to sow discourse and plunge the country into chaos. Much easier for gayreeks to then simply march in and claim it for their own by power of arms. As they've done in the past with many places.
myowngenesis 10 months ago
@myowngenesis Just try to accept the truth.
michaeluoc 3 months ago
@michaeluoc what truth is that? That the Macedonians are Bulgars or Slavs or what?
myowngenesis 2 months ago
@myowngenesis ..... still we are trying to find out where these people came from.... The reality is that definitely are not what they claim they are...
SakisK12 2 months ago
The most probable theory is the Slavic ansestry. But even so, they should keep whatever name they choose without neighbouring countries start choking on the prospect
myowngenesis 2 months ago
@myowngenesis i see that you like "learning" about politics and since you are an Albanian from Kosovo u must be informed of whatever is happening to the region but not what the US and others are trying to serve you. As long as for the Monkeydonias of course is of Slavic ansectryeveryone knows the truth except of the sourounding morans who hate the Greeks. Take a look watch?v=5SMJPPXsGEI
Salute
SakisK12 2 months ago
@SakisK12 but why does that bother you, that they choose to be called macedonian? Why do you call them monkeydonian? And don't you worry, I know more than I should know about the american motives and interests in the region. I'm a leftist btw, so I'm not as wideeyed about US as many of my fellow Albanians are. But still, I do not think that blowing issues out of proportion and harnessing natinalism and patriotism is the way to go. And I'm very much against "free" markets taking over everywhere
myowngenesis 2 months ago
to be honest, I very much doubt you're very forthcoming of what you are. Seriously, you're gonna force an entire society to change their chosen identity, BEACUSE some xenophobic maniacal greek patriots wants you to?
myowngenesis 10 months ago
@StefanovTeacher contratulations to you do for not been afraid to post the truth.
We must not allow the extremist to shame the people of FYROM.
We must protect the truth above all.
makedonchesto 10 months ago 2
contratulations to this president that dared to accept the truth and contratulations to because you're in Skopje and uploaded the video!
21LeoNidasZ 1 year ago 55
@21LeoNidasZ - I want the truth and nothing but the truth
StefanovTeacher 11 months ago 38
@StefanovTeacher Congrattulations fellow... What all in Fyrom should understand is that you should be proud for your TRUE origins! You are Slavs and you should be proud about that, you don t need to claim any other intentity!
vadc12 2 months ago
@StefanovTeacher I'm sure that you are the only one in your country that has not been braiwashed...You got my respect
asfaehey 2 weeks ago
He should say
"We are History Stealers" instead
2005defender 1 year ago 3