I don't respect any of these Puritans (Roger Williams and Anne Hutchinson excepted)--they spread war fare and disease among natives and took their land. They were intolerant people. They came to this country seeking religious freedom, then proceeded to terrorize native people for theirs!! Bad beginnings for 'America'
The puritans were oppressive Calvinist primitives. Just read some of their earliest statutes, filled with prescribed forms of torture for thought crimes.
@THEBIGCAGEY I have read through the transcripts of the Salem (and other cities) "witch" trials and pretrial documents, which are available for free on the internet. You are completely mistaken. In not one single instance is there a "slaughter" of "innocent" people. Read them carefully and thoroughly for yourself and see what was going on in that milieu. The "innocent" people you refer to were committing significant crimes against people and property.
LOL, this is such rubbish, puritans were horrid people, I love how you forgot to mention the assistance they begrudgingly accepted in order to survive, when are we going to accept that our country was founded by scumbags? Peace loving puritans is a myth, you disagreed with them and you were burned. We strive to be a better society despite our horrid beginnings. Also the visuals included are consistent with the puritan myth, no one in early america had access to such attires!
@icucingme Sorry, you're wrong. Try reading their own writings, not the public school revisionist history of these people. You are obviously completely uneducated on this issue, and shouldn't write about things you know nothing about.
actually it was the quakers who were more influential in the abolitionist movement, and the Puritans hated the Quakers because of their doctrine teaching "the inner light", that god could speak with people. Puritans left England to avoid religious persecution, then the first thing they wished to do was to establish a theocracy. they were a repressive society that burned or banished all dissenters. they had no problem with using violence, unlike the quakers, who were pacifists.
@silljos1 Thank God. Someone who understands the difference between the Puritans and moderate Christians. Yes, I agree, the Quakers, a group more inclined to understand God's love and grace, were persecuted by the Puritans. Also Roger Williams, a Baptist, fled Massachusetts on account of the Puritans and founded Rhode Island, where people could have more religious freedom.
@1977dwk correct, I feel that Roger Williams perspective on colonial life in America was way ahead of it's time. he even told the puritans that they were robbing land from the Natives. i can't think of ANY white colonists that opposed encroaching on native American land. and though i'm not christian (anymore) i can definitely admire the Quakers.
"THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS NOT IN ANY SENSE FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION." (Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: Written during the Administration of George Washington and signed into law by John Adams.)
What a difference between then & now. Our country was initially settled by the Puritans and a love for scripture. Today, our country flooded with immorality, gay 'marriage', violence, satanic music bands, etc. All by the hands of liberals. Radio host Michael Savage said it so plainly in his book titled 'Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder'
@evilunixuser1 When you consider that there are more than 10 times as many people now as there are back in the days of colonization it ought to be obvious to anyone who's given a history book more than a cursory glance that there was MUCH more violence then than there is now. As for Michael Savage, a man who has publicly called for the massacre of "100 million people" is totally unqualified to call anybody immoral.
"The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time."-Genesis 6:5
The Puritans were members of a religious movement that began in the 15th century in England.
The name of the Puritans derives from their desire to purify the Church of England.
They believed for example that that in the Church of England the bishops and cardinals have too much power. Because of their different views they were persecuted from the king and so 20,000 Puritans immigrated to the English colonies in North America to gain religious liberty.
On behalf of my ancestors (most of whom were Puritans in the 1600s), I offer my apology for the wrongs my people perpetrated against Native Americans. On the other hand, there are many things I respect about my people, and I am proud of my heritage.
@histrav Histrav--what wrongs are you referring to? The Puritans, among all of the early comers to America, tended to have peacable relationships with the native Americans, and any bloodshed between the two parties was often at the instigation of the native Americans who were assuming that the Puritans were like the Jamestown settlers and others who took advantage of them.
@StonesAllAround87 Not at all. You need to read the primary source writings of those who were actually there, not simply accept the public school textbook revision of historical events. Very eye-opening. The modern interpretation of history that in every case evil Europeans destroyed the peace-loving Indians is simply incorrect. The Puritans simply were not aggressors toward the Indians. They did defend themselves when attacked, but they did not initiate conflict with the Indians.
@histrav You should read your ancestors' history, written by THEM. Defending yourself against physical and mortal attacks is not a wrong you are perpetrating against your attacker. Read their journals and writings (almost everything is available for free on the internet), and you will see that there is no aggression initiated by the Puritans against the Indians.
@windstorm1000 There may be but not conducted by the Puritan communities. They simply did not initiate aggression against the native Americans. They certainly defended themselves against the insane animalistic aggressions of the native Americans against them, but they did not in any way engage in a holocaust against the native Americans.
@alisoviejofour I think you need to start readin----Start with "People's History of the U.S." by H.Zinn--its all documented and black and white of aggresive acts of Puritans against native people--how do you think they got all that land?? They killed off the people for starters. And start cultivating some frienships with native people--you just might learn something outside of your cultural box.
I'm seeing a lot of hate on the Puritans. I don't know much about them, so could someone please explain what they did that is making everyone have so much contempt toward them?
The reason some post hateful, obscene, untrue and self-glorying comments about the Puritans is because they were Christians. The "world" hates Christianity because the words of Christ are a condemnation of it.
As the Bible plainly teaches, those who hate Christians, hate Christ.
" ...If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you ..." (Jn 15 v 20)
@05lowell05 I, too, used to believe the Puritans were all evil (a concoction of modern historical revisionism) until I read the documents, histories, journals and other materials written by them, rather than simply settling for the public school textbook version of history, which in almost every case is slanted heavily against European settlers to America, and especially against Christians. I have learned that the Puritans were loving, generous and fun people, with impeccable character.
Puritans fled from persecution in their homeland to found communities based on their values and beliefs. Those communities were the basis of the USA. Bashing the Puritans is to Americans like digging the ground away from under their feet.
1980vince speaks truth...yahaya12345 is in ignorance, error.
the purtians had many psychological issues,,indeed they did torture some who they claimed as *heretics*,,and the puritans did murder peaceful indians.
It was the puritan jews that murdered Jesus.
Avoid all forms of *pure christianity* like the plague of death.
Seek Christ, understand carefully Paul's letters to the troubled churches.
People need to understand that Puritans were ungodly people who claimed they follow the word of God but murdered people who committed sins, that is unbiblical. During the Salem witch trials, they put many people to death instead of preaching to them that God can forgive all sins and that Jesus still loved them. Puritans are not true Christians
@RealHipHopTunes What????? I have read through the Salem (and other cities)trial transcripts, and in every instance without exception, the Gospel was preached to the defendants, opportunities were given to repent from their crimes against persons and property (read through what they were doing to their neighbors!), and every instance of capital punishment was painstakingly and excruciatingly arrived at. The Puritans again and again write about their own sinfulness. Read THEIR writings.
We need Puritans today. We need to go back to our staunch Calvinist traditions. A true Christian is one who loves God and loves God's Sovereignty in predestinating some to life and predestinating the rest to a damnation to show the Elect the riches of His Grace!
Puritans came to the New World to escape religious persecution from England, thus they wanted to practice their religion in peace; however, leaders like Winthrop didn't tolerate even his members. If anyone spoke out, they were excommunicated from that particular region (i.e., Anne Hutchinson)
-You want America to go back to the age where people beat the childhood out of their kids and force them to be mature adults at a young age?
-You want back the time where people are forced to pray, worship and work the whole week and any form of leisure other than reading is frowned upon?
-You want America to turn back to a time where all beliefs other than Christianity are frowned upon and any form of dissident is labeled an act of Satan?
The puritans were horrible to their chidren, they nearly killed them with metal rods. It's absolutely horrible! Their lifestyle is FUCKED UP! They are waaaay to strict and when it comes to church, don't even get me started!
I think the Puritians were like really you know like they were sort of totally good but bad things sort of like happened when they like went like to like church like when that flying man with the healing hands came and then like died like in front of everyone and there was like totes blood everywhere and all the women were like screaming and then ... he died. :(
Yes let us not forget that they kept diaries so they could look for signs that pointed to the time they felt they were chosen by God and lets not forget the King Philip war of 1675–1676. The way they treated the Indians throughout all the newly settled colonies was just insane. They also had slaves so I am not sure where this gets it information. Just read Mary Rowlands story, she even mentions she had an Indian "worker" or slave in her home. Don't believe everything you hear...research.
puritans started the witch hunts in america, puritans never bathed or wash there cloths,when the puritans first arrived the were nearly starving.,the peaceful native american indians fed them, taught the puritans how to fish and hunt. and in return the christian puritans murdered the natives.
@1980vince No Jonathan Edwards preached to the Indians! Get your errors corrected! Edwards was the greatest American Puritan, Philisopher, Theologian that ever walked America! Calvinism IS Christianity!
@1980vince The native americans were peaceful? Epil lulz. They wre as far from being peaceful as possible. They were constantly warring amongst their numerous different tribes, and were friendly to the europeans only because they would be a useful ally, especially with their firearms. But 24 thumbs up for regurgitating the tired old, absurd pc nonsense!
@1980vince wait...there were peaceful native americans? Huh, that's strange, because the vast majority of them were intensely warlike, constantly warring amongst their countless tribes.
@1980vince we took the indians land in 1871 the puritan era ended years before that. the adoption of the constitution made it impossivle to rule in a religious government. we took land from indians because while some were peaceful others attacked us
@extremeeXrement1 ummmm I wonder why Indians attacked white colonists...I do wonder...poor colonists, they didn't deserve that. After all, they'd been appointed by God to start one of the most horrid genocides ever, poor things!
You took land from Indians because you were scumbags, and the Indians are bad because they defended their land? crazy people those Indians! lol
@StonesAllAround87 we inhabited the land we didnt attack them they saw us and initially they helped us. It wasnt until later we fought them, some were reluctant to accept us and some were.Indians had fought alongside Americans depending on tribe i.e. confederacy, american revolution. Tribes often fought each other over that. Some colonist were cruel.The puritans weren't part of the old colonies. They came from dutchland in 1600s and were relatively kind. They were attacked by indiansfor desieses
@alisoviejofour You are reading from their point of view only, not the natives. Didn't murder the Indians???? Do you know what they did (only one battle) to the Pequot in 1637? Burned 700 men, women and children in a fort! Then they got the land and got rich. That's not good karma--and that whole area is cursed to this day.
@1980vince Actually the Puritans have a better track record of treatment of Indians than most other Europeans (including other English colonizers, like Virginia). They didn't 'Murder them in return' they actually made a peace treaty that lasted between their allied tribes and the colonies for about 50 years. The breakdown of the peace is not that simple either. The founding members of the treaties on both sides were dead before the peace ended.
And the Puritans owned slaves. The Puritans went to war with the Native Americans within 7 months of landing in the New World. They were not as Biblical as people think. AND the Salem witch trials happened due to the Puritans.
I dont agree with most Puritan beliefs or their rules/laws and punishments. They were pretty damn cruel over things we would consider to be human nature but they did leave some positive influence on America. They started the first public school systems because they wanted people to be literate and educated. They also believed everyone had a god given talent and whatever you were good at that was to be your profession in most cases. They had a strong/positive work ethic because of this.
the puritans were the original christians who followed what the bible said word for word, without todays influence of multi millionair pastors and fellowships. seriously if we relate the bible to the actions of the puritans we will see that todays christians are indeed in error
Umm no they weren't.. They were a branch of the Protestant Church in England founded by John Calvin. They took everything to the extreme especially the severe punishments they dealt to people who committed small crimes. Sometimes the punishment was death for these petty crimes.
true ... they also enslaved black, which not only was ordered in leviticus 25:44-46 as part of jehova's eternal covenant with his slaves, but also paul endorsed it in his letters and told slaves to treat their masters as if they were christ... religion lends legitimacy to all forms of fascist absolutism, abuse of power and inhumanity
The Puritans were the torch bearers of all anti-fun movements and the rightful bothers of the Puritans, the BNP and other like not spreaders of misery perpetual whingers.
Not as many as you'd think. Around 20 were put to death for being 'witches' in Salem at one point, and that's the only account of witch burning I can recall. You can't judge them all by the few in Salem!
My comment was about his statement that people didn't die because they were witches. Now, he may be saying the legend refers to burning (they were hanged, except one was crushed) but the way it is presented is that the legend is that people died, implying that no one died.
Are you saying it's OK that *only* 20 people died after being accused a witch (totally ignoring the 13 who died in prison)? I'm saying it's not OK.
Sorry, I didn't mean to mean to make it sound like I found it okay that people died. :P
I just wanted to say that it's a lot lower than what most people think it is, and that you can't blame puritans as a whole because of the few that put people to death.
1 Thimothy 2:5-6 ...''' For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all , to be testified in due time'''.....
It would be helpful if you read John Owen's book on death of death in the death of Christ in order to see how the context of the word "all" is used in Scripture. just as the word "world" is also used in different ways. :)
@star3cs I wish I could give you the benefit of a doubt that you are not mocking John Owen, but it appears to me that you are mocking him with ungratefulness. John Owen did not practice theory and interpretation. He wrote strictly from Scripture, and he did it very well. There are many reasons why he is called "the theologian's theologian", and there is not enough space here to cover those reasons.
Very good the puritans. Apparently they spent 6 days in heaven and shared their revelations on the 7th day!! Although some of their doctrine is wrong they where a good bunch of people. Gurnall and Bunyan where good writers.
I read many of the puritan books at my channel. Their doctrine were strongly biblical. If they are heaven bound, then speaking about faith and godliness is beneficial and anything lacking is only secondary.
Amen they speak real good truth. They where a bunch of very Godly people. Most where calvinists though. Im not to sure on that theology. Christ died for all. God bless ya anyway m8 =]
Could you please indicate one verse that says Christ died for all.
Since I have the patience and obvious intention of not requiring the exact wording, "Christ died for all", obviously it doesn't appear that way you and I both agree, but could you please just show any 'possible' verse that 'might' mean that Christ died for all.
about comparation Jhon 10:11 and 10:26.....Jesus died for all but if you dont accept him as a God you cant be a sheep of him.
About ephesians 5:25''Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her''....maybe you dont know what an church means...Christ church=more then 2-3 people that stand in obedience and pray's the Lord.Not the building that you go every sunday...
Whether Christ has only 1 church or 1000 churches, it is only one body of believers that is referred to. In the Koine-Greek language, the word εκκλησιαν means body of believers, and we translate it in English as Church. All persons who are believers are the one church to which the verse refers; the bride of Christ.
As for John 10, Christ says he lays down his life for HIS sheep, verse 26, there are some who are not HIS sheep.
Please show me a verse, you have the burden of proof.
Yes, the Pilgrims and Puritans deserve to be re-examined because most of what Americans think they know about them is rubbish - based on Victorian sentementality, Thanksgiving school plays, or 20th C writers with an ideological ax to grind. They are the reason NE developed so differently than the South. Orderly towns, churches,universal literacy, value of common skills/honest labor (my Pilgrim/Puritan ancestors were shoemakers - though they left ancestral manors back in England) were esteemed.
And English culture, do we need those standards again, yes. Imagine todays standard of church back then, how liberal would we be now!! Thank God for the puritans.
Hey...equal time!
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imegatrone 3 weeks ago
sorry but i like Christmas and glad they are gone, all these puritan apologetic that look at paintings of these people and believe them, pathetic
icucingme 3 weeks ago
I don't respect any of these Puritans (Roger Williams and Anne Hutchinson excepted)--they spread war fare and disease among natives and took their land. They were intolerant people. They came to this country seeking religious freedom, then proceeded to terrorize native people for theirs!! Bad beginnings for 'America'
windstorm1000 1 month ago
Their perfectly pure, everyone else is a devil? Please tell me I got that wrong.
verum1980 2 months ago
im glad they died
starscreamdkmo 2 months ago
The only good Englishmen of this period.
ProtestantThomas 3 months ago
The puritans were oppressive Calvinist primitives. Just read some of their earliest statutes, filled with prescribed forms of torture for thought crimes.
AtheistWoman 3 months ago
@THEBIGCAGEY I have read through the transcripts of the Salem (and other cities) "witch" trials and pretrial documents, which are available for free on the internet. You are completely mistaken. In not one single instance is there a "slaughter" of "innocent" people. Read them carefully and thoroughly for yourself and see what was going on in that milieu. The "innocent" people you refer to were committing significant crimes against people and property.
alisoviejofour 3 months ago
Hello Mister Izsa
TerSandman 3 months ago
LOL, this is such rubbish, puritans were horrid people, I love how you forgot to mention the assistance they begrudgingly accepted in order to survive, when are we going to accept that our country was founded by scumbags? Peace loving puritans is a myth, you disagreed with them and you were burned. We strive to be a better society despite our horrid beginnings. Also the visuals included are consistent with the puritan myth, no one in early america had access to such attires!
icucingme 3 months ago
@icucingme Sorry, you're wrong. Try reading their own writings, not the public school revisionist history of these people. You are obviously completely uneducated on this issue, and shouldn't write about things you know nothing about.
alisoviejofour 3 months ago
actually it was the quakers who were more influential in the abolitionist movement, and the Puritans hated the Quakers because of their doctrine teaching "the inner light", that god could speak with people. Puritans left England to avoid religious persecution, then the first thing they wished to do was to establish a theocracy. they were a repressive society that burned or banished all dissenters. they had no problem with using violence, unlike the quakers, who were pacifists.
silljos1 3 months ago
@silljos1 Thank God. Someone who understands the difference between the Puritans and moderate Christians. Yes, I agree, the Quakers, a group more inclined to understand God's love and grace, were persecuted by the Puritans. Also Roger Williams, a Baptist, fled Massachusetts on account of the Puritans and founded Rhode Island, where people could have more religious freedom.
1977dwk 3 months ago
@1977dwk correct, I feel that Roger Williams perspective on colonial life in America was way ahead of it's time. he even told the puritans that they were robbing land from the Natives. i can't think of ANY white colonists that opposed encroaching on native American land. and though i'm not christian (anymore) i can definitely admire the Quakers.
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MrCharlottesHand 4 months ago
I love the Puritans
peace691000 4 months ago
Who ever made this video Just made my homework research easier :) Thx
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"THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS NOT IN ANY SENSE FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION." (Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: Written during the Administration of George Washington and signed into law by John Adams.)
MagicTellaVision 7 months ago
What a difference between then & now. Our country was initially settled by the Puritans and a love for scripture. Today, our country flooded with immorality, gay 'marriage', violence, satanic music bands, etc. All by the hands of liberals. Radio host Michael Savage said it so plainly in his book titled 'Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder'
evilunixuser1 7 months ago 3
@evilunixuser1 When you consider that there are more than 10 times as many people now as there are back in the days of colonization it ought to be obvious to anyone who's given a history book more than a cursory glance that there was MUCH more violence then than there is now. As for Michael Savage, a man who has publicly called for the massacre of "100 million people" is totally unqualified to call anybody immoral.
jollygreenjustin 5 months ago
@evilunixuser1 lets burn all of that Satan's seed, man. Fucking ignorant idiot
StonesAllAround87 3 months ago
History should be studied in order to increase one's understanding, not to increase one's hate.
uberhandle 8 months ago
"The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time."-Genesis 6:5
Domodeath 9 months ago
The Puritans were members of a religious movement that began in the 15th century in England.
The name of the Puritans derives from their desire to purify the Church of England.
They believed for example that that in the Church of England the bishops and cardinals have too much power. Because of their different views they were persecuted from the king and so 20,000 Puritans immigrated to the English colonies in North America to gain religious liberty.
XxPBMxX 10 months ago
On behalf of my ancestors (most of whom were Puritans in the 1600s), I offer my apology for the wrongs my people perpetrated against Native Americans. On the other hand, there are many things I respect about my people, and I am proud of my heritage.
histrav 11 months ago
@histrav Histrav--what wrongs are you referring to? The Puritans, among all of the early comers to America, tended to have peacable relationships with the native Americans, and any bloodshed between the two parties was often at the instigation of the native Americans who were assuming that the Puritans were like the Jamestown settlers and others who took advantage of them.
alisoviejofour 10 months ago
@alisoviejofour xDDDD okay...it's all the Indians fault, whatever, man. We only see what we want to see.
StonesAllAround87 3 months ago
@StonesAllAround87 Not at all. You need to read the primary source writings of those who were actually there, not simply accept the public school textbook revision of historical events. Very eye-opening. The modern interpretation of history that in every case evil Europeans destroyed the peace-loving Indians is simply incorrect. The Puritans simply were not aggressors toward the Indians. They did defend themselves when attacked, but they did not initiate conflict with the Indians.
alisoviejofour 3 months ago
@histrav You should read your ancestors' history, written by THEM. Defending yourself against physical and mortal attacks is not a wrong you are perpetrating against your attacker. Read their journals and writings (almost everything is available for free on the internet), and you will see that there is no aggression initiated by the Puritans against the Indians.
alisoviejofour 3 months ago
@alisoviejofour boy, you are living in a dream world. there is plenty of evidence of holocausts again native cultures.
windstorm1000 1 month ago
@windstorm1000 There may be but not conducted by the Puritan communities. They simply did not initiate aggression against the native Americans. They certainly defended themselves against the insane animalistic aggressions of the native Americans against them, but they did not in any way engage in a holocaust against the native Americans.
alisoviejofour 1 month ago
@alisoviejofour I think you need to start readin----Start with "People's History of the U.S." by H.Zinn--its all documented and black and white of aggresive acts of Puritans against native people--how do you think they got all that land?? They killed off the people for starters. And start cultivating some frienships with native people--you just might learn something outside of your cultural box.
windstorm1000 1 month ago
I'm seeing a lot of hate on the Puritans. I don't know much about them, so could someone please explain what they did that is making everyone have so much contempt toward them?
05lowell05 1 year ago
@05lowell05
The reason some post hateful, obscene, untrue and self-glorying comments about the Puritans is because they were Christians. The "world" hates Christianity because the words of Christ are a condemnation of it.
As the Bible plainly teaches, those who hate Christians, hate Christ.
" ...If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you ..." (Jn 15 v 20)
michaelbyrnes2012 11 months ago
@michaelbyrnes2012 Agree completely. Also, "men love the darkness because their deeds are evil." John 1.
alisoviejofour 3 months ago
@05lowell05 I, too, used to believe the Puritans were all evil (a concoction of modern historical revisionism) until I read the documents, histories, journals and other materials written by them, rather than simply settling for the public school textbook version of history, which in almost every case is slanted heavily against European settlers to America, and especially against Christians. I have learned that the Puritans were loving, generous and fun people, with impeccable character.
alisoviejofour 3 months ago
I know for sure one thing Oliver Cromwell and the Puritans were right about. They were right about the Catholic church!
caribbeandiaspora 1 year ago 2
My personal feeling about God is much more positive and generous than what the Puritans believed.
LauraSommer 1 year ago
life isn't black and white. that's where the puritans went wrong.
nivadelak 1 year ago
Puritans can suck my balls......suck my balls puritan scum!
Rafterman26 1 year ago 26
They were people who wanted to do good. It's oh so easy to ridicule them, but much more interesting to try to understand them.
Good video.
MrRedFredSaid 1 year ago
Puritans fled from persecution in their homeland to found communities based on their values and beliefs. Those communities were the basis of the USA. Bashing the Puritans is to Americans like digging the ground away from under their feet.
CaballeroCatalan 1 year ago
This started out good and accurate, but then just went downhill.
quantumautumn 1 year ago
1980vince speaks truth...yahaya12345 is in ignorance, error.
the purtians had many psychological issues,,indeed they did torture some who they claimed as *heretics*,,and the puritans did murder peaceful indians.
It was the puritan jews that murdered Jesus.
Avoid all forms of *pure christianity* like the plague of death.
Seek Christ, understand carefully Paul's letters to the troubled churches.
paulfbest 1 year ago 3
What a contrast between the video and the 1980vince comment.
planetrockford 1 year ago
Puritans were awesome!
theheat151 1 year ago
People need to understand that Puritans were ungodly people who claimed they follow the word of God but murdered people who committed sins, that is unbiblical. During the Salem witch trials, they put many people to death instead of preaching to them that God can forgive all sins and that Jesus still loved them. Puritans are not true Christians
RealHipHopTunes 1 year ago 6
@RealHipHopTunes What????? I have read through the Salem (and other cities)trial transcripts, and in every instance without exception, the Gospel was preached to the defendants, opportunities were given to repent from their crimes against persons and property (read through what they were doing to their neighbors!), and every instance of capital punishment was painstakingly and excruciatingly arrived at. The Puritans again and again write about their own sinfulness. Read THEIR writings.
alisoviejofour 3 months ago
@RealHipHopTunes God can forgive all sins?? Yeah right tell that to the souls of the witches, native americans and homosexuals that are already dead.
colombus66 2 weeks ago
puritans leave england because of religious intolerance, then they implement religious intolerance in the new world ... lols
sammygee17 1 year ago 5
We need Puritans today. We need to go back to our staunch Calvinist traditions. A true Christian is one who loves God and loves God's Sovereignty in predestinating some to life and predestinating the rest to a damnation to show the Elect the riches of His Grace!
NB3K 1 year ago
@NB3K
Puritans came to the New World to escape religious persecution from England, thus they wanted to practice their religion in peace; however, leaders like Winthrop didn't tolerate even his members. If anyone spoke out, they were excommunicated from that particular region (i.e., Anne Hutchinson)
FoocheelehTheGreat 1 year ago
Let me get this straight:
-You want America to go back to the age where people beat the childhood out of their kids and force them to be mature adults at a young age?
-You want back the time where people are forced to pray, worship and work the whole week and any form of leisure other than reading is frowned upon?
-You want America to turn back to a time where all beliefs other than Christianity are frowned upon and any form of dissident is labeled an act of Satan?
Absolutely not.
Idude893 1 year ago
YouTube comment boxes are places of much amusement for me.
v01741r31 1 year ago
The puritans were horrible to their chidren, they nearly killed them with metal rods. It's absolutely horrible! Their lifestyle is FUCKED UP! They are waaaay to strict and when it comes to church, don't even get me started!
70thM 1 year ago
I think the Puritians were like really you know like they were sort of totally good but bad things sort of like happened when they like went like to like church like when that flying man with the healing hands came and then like died like in front of everyone and there was like totes blood everywhere and all the women were like screaming and then ... he died. :(
WhatSorryOh 1 year ago
Bunch of freaks god damn religon fucked up the world
AbelsArmy 1 year ago
Yes let us not forget that they kept diaries so they could look for signs that pointed to the time they felt they were chosen by God and lets not forget the King Philip war of 1675–1676. The way they treated the Indians throughout all the newly settled colonies was just insane. They also had slaves so I am not sure where this gets it information. Just read Mary Rowlands story, she even mentions she had an Indian "worker" or slave in her home. Don't believe everything you hear...research.
mayguire 1 year ago
puritans started the witch hunts in america, puritans never bathed or wash there cloths,when the puritans first arrived the were nearly starving.,the peaceful native american indians fed them, taught the puritans how to fish and hunt. and in return the christian puritans murdered the natives.
1980vince 1 year ago 131
@1980vince No Jonathan Edwards preached to the Indians! Get your errors corrected! Edwards was the greatest American Puritan, Philisopher, Theologian that ever walked America! Calvinism IS Christianity!
NB3K 1 year ago
@NB3K FUCK YOU THE PURITAN WERE ANYTHING BUT PURE TO THIS DAY THERE DECENDENTS DONT TAKE BATHS . HAHAHAHA, FIX YOUR ERROR GO SHOOT YOURSELF.
1980vince 1 year ago
@1980vince You clearly show that you have no clue what you are talking about!
NB3K 1 year ago
@1980vince
They went against the Puritan-Christian ways.
NormbrettaMod 1 year ago
@1980vince The native americans were peaceful? Epil lulz. They wre as far from being peaceful as possible. They were constantly warring amongst their numerous different tribes, and were friendly to the europeans only because they would be a useful ally, especially with their firearms. But 24 thumbs up for regurgitating the tired old, absurd pc nonsense!
MaximusRelaximus 1 year ago
@1980vince wait...there were peaceful native americans? Huh, that's strange, because the vast majority of them were intensely warlike, constantly warring amongst their countless tribes.
PumpingSmashkins 11 months ago
@1980vince we took the indians land in 1871 the puritan era ended years before that. the adoption of the constitution made it impossivle to rule in a religious government. we took land from indians because while some were peaceful others attacked us
extremeeXrement1 4 months ago
@extremeeXrement1 ummmm I wonder why Indians attacked white colonists...I do wonder...poor colonists, they didn't deserve that. After all, they'd been appointed by God to start one of the most horrid genocides ever, poor things!
You took land from Indians because you were scumbags, and the Indians are bad because they defended their land? crazy people those Indians! lol
StonesAllAround87 3 months ago
@StonesAllAround87 we inhabited the land we didnt attack them they saw us and initially they helped us. It wasnt until later we fought them, some were reluctant to accept us and some were.Indians had fought alongside Americans depending on tribe i.e. confederacy, american revolution. Tribes often fought each other over that. Some colonist were cruel.The puritans weren't part of the old colonies. They came from dutchland in 1600s and were relatively kind. They were attacked by indiansfor desieses
extremeeXrement1 3 months ago
@1980vince Maybe the Puritans weren't really true Christians. Ever think about that?
1977dwk 3 months ago
@1980vince Sorry, you're wrong. Try reading the writings of the Puritans. The Puritans did not "murder" the Indians.
alisoviejofour 3 months ago
@alisoviejofour You are reading from their point of view only, not the natives. Didn't murder the Indians???? Do you know what they did (only one battle) to the Pequot in 1637? Burned 700 men, women and children in a fort! Then they got the land and got rich. That's not good karma--and that whole area is cursed to this day.
windstorm1000 1 month ago
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hystoryan 2 months ago
@1980vince Actually the Puritans have a better track record of treatment of Indians than most other Europeans (including other English colonizers, like Virginia). They didn't 'Murder them in return' they actually made a peace treaty that lasted between their allied tribes and the colonies for about 50 years. The breakdown of the peace is not that simple either. The founding members of the treaties on both sides were dead before the peace ended.
hystoryan 2 months ago
@hystoryan You are neglecting the 1637 massacreof the Pequots --700 people--burned alive --this is only one event.
windstorm1000 1 month ago
And the Puritans owned slaves. The Puritans went to war with the Native Americans within 7 months of landing in the New World. They were not as Biblical as people think. AND the Salem witch trials happened due to the Puritans.
jasonito23 1 year ago
@jasonito23 When does the bible preach against war?
kaiserwilhelm 1 year ago
nothing good has ever come from puritans
duirling 2 years ago
Wow. That's quite the ignorant statement.
enslaved2God 1 year ago
what good have they done??
duirling 1 year ago
I dont agree with most Puritan beliefs or their rules/laws and punishments. They were pretty damn cruel over things we would consider to be human nature but they did leave some positive influence on America. They started the first public school systems because they wanted people to be literate and educated. They also believed everyone had a god given talent and whatever you were good at that was to be your profession in most cases. They had a strong/positive work ethic because of this.
b0ondockz 1 year ago
the puritans were the original christians who followed what the bible said word for word, without todays influence of multi millionair pastors and fellowships. seriously if we relate the bible to the actions of the puritans we will see that todays christians are indeed in error
yahaya12345 2 years ago 8
Umm no they weren't.. They were a branch of the Protestant Church in England founded by John Calvin. They took everything to the extreme especially the severe punishments they dealt to people who committed small crimes. Sometimes the punishment was death for these petty crimes.
b0ondockz 1 year ago
@yahaya12345, since the bible contradicts itself, it isn't possible for one sect to be in the right.
lanedharrison 1 year ago
@yahaya12345
The bible is FUCKED UP and so is anyone that holds it as the inherent word of god. It's of no moral worth and it creates more bad than good.
LawfulDead 1 year ago
@LawfulDead Amen!
EyeWearMySunglasses 1 year ago
@yahaya12345 all christians in all days are in error.
jmbhottie23 1 year ago
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i hope america wakes up before this ends up some sort of evangelical theology - religion is fucking evil!
saadaya 2 years ago
@saadaya RELIGON=WAR
christians murdered indians!
puresickdead 2 years ago
true ... they also enslaved black, which not only was ordered in leviticus 25:44-46 as part of jehova's eternal covenant with his slaves, but also paul endorsed it in his letters and told slaves to treat their masters as if they were christ... religion lends legitimacy to all forms of fascist absolutism, abuse of power and inhumanity
saadaya 2 years ago
The Puritans were the torch bearers of all anti-fun movements and the rightful bothers of the Puritans, the BNP and other like not spreaders of misery perpetual whingers.
cranyonrye 2 years ago
This documentary is much too pederastic for my tastes.
PrincessShittyBottom 2 years ago
The Calvinists, Huguenots, Lutherans, and Presbyterians were all mod Rockbands leftover from the Thirty Years War.
PrincessShittyBottom 2 years ago
Their Puritans were marked by their staunch piety, moderation, abstemious fealty to duties of propriety, and obsession with penises.
PrincessShittyBottom 2 years ago
The puritans were bad ass PIMPITUDE.
kaiserwilhelm 2 years ago
Your last comment is pure blasphemy. To the rack with ye.
PrincessShittyBottom 2 years ago
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PrincessShittyBottom 2 years ago
"Legends of people burned as witches..." legends? People *were* burned as witches.
hooptastic1 2 years ago
Not as many as you'd think. Around 20 were put to death for being 'witches' in Salem at one point, and that's the only account of witch burning I can recall. You can't judge them all by the few in Salem!
LifeIsSoAwesome 2 years ago
My comment was about his statement that people didn't die because they were witches. Now, he may be saying the legend refers to burning (they were hanged, except one was crushed) but the way it is presented is that the legend is that people died, implying that no one died.
Are you saying it's OK that *only* 20 people died after being accused a witch (totally ignoring the 13 who died in prison)? I'm saying it's not OK.
hooptastic1 2 years ago
Sorry, I didn't mean to mean to make it sound like I found it okay that people died. :P
I just wanted to say that it's a lot lower than what most people think it is, and that you can't blame puritans as a whole because of the few that put people to death.
LifeIsSoAwesome 2 years ago
1 Thimothy 2:5-6 ...''' For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all , to be testified in due time'''.....
...yep Jesus Christ died for all
star3cs 2 years ago
It would be helpful if you read John Owen's book on death of death in the death of Christ in order to see how the context of the word "all" is used in Scripture. just as the word "world" is also used in different ways. :)
parakeethands 2 years ago
john Owen ....only theory and interpretation...
star3cs 2 years ago
@star3cs I wish I could give you the benefit of a doubt that you are not mocking John Owen, but it appears to me that you are mocking him with ungratefulness. John Owen did not practice theory and interpretation. He wrote strictly from Scripture, and he did it very well. There are many reasons why he is called "the theologian's theologian", and there is not enough space here to cover those reasons.
APSOC38 1 year ago
Very good the puritans. Apparently they spent 6 days in heaven and shared their revelations on the 7th day!! Although some of their doctrine is wrong they where a good bunch of people. Gurnall and Bunyan where good writers.
SpiritFilledJohn 3 years ago
I read many of the puritan books at my channel. Their doctrine were strongly biblical. If they are heaven bound, then speaking about faith and godliness is beneficial and anything lacking is only secondary.
reformedman 3 years ago
Amen they speak real good truth. They where a bunch of very Godly people. Most where calvinists though. Im not to sure on that theology. Christ died for all. God bless ya anyway m8 =]
SpiritFilledJohn 3 years ago
Could you please indicate one verse that says Christ died for all.
Since I have the patience and obvious intention of not requiring the exact wording, "Christ died for all", obviously it doesn't appear that way you and I both agree, but could you please just show any 'possible' verse that 'might' mean that Christ died for all.
Meanwhile, I will post 2 for you:
John 10:11 when compared to 10:26
and
ephesians 5:25 if he died for all, then this verse makes absolutely no sense at all.
cheers m8.
reformedman 3 years ago
about comparation Jhon 10:11 and 10:26.....Jesus died for all but if you dont accept him as a God you cant be a sheep of him.
About ephesians 5:25''Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her''....maybe you dont know what an church means...Christ church=more then 2-3 people that stand in obedience and pray's the Lord.Not the building that you go every sunday...
star3cs 2 years ago
Whether Christ has only 1 church or 1000 churches, it is only one body of believers that is referred to. In the Koine-Greek language, the word εκκλησιαν means body of believers, and we translate it in English as Church. All persons who are believers are the one church to which the verse refers; the bride of Christ.
As for John 10, Christ says he lays down his life for HIS sheep, verse 26, there are some who are not HIS sheep.
Please show me a verse, you have the burden of proof.
reformedman 2 years ago 3
Yes, the Pilgrims and Puritans deserve to be re-examined because most of what Americans think they know about them is rubbish - based on Victorian sentementality, Thanksgiving school plays, or 20th C writers with an ideological ax to grind. They are the reason NE developed so differently than the South. Orderly towns, churches,universal literacy, value of common skills/honest labor (my Pilgrim/Puritan ancestors were shoemakers - though they left ancestral manors back in England) were esteemed.
macpduff 3 years ago
And English culture, do we need those standards again, yes. Imagine todays standard of church back then, how liberal would we be now!! Thank God for the puritans.
jme1976 3 years ago
This was great for me taking notes on Puritans
cardinalsfan780 3 years ago
Extremely helpful as a visual and audio resource for our study of puritan literature.
sleekbeagle 4 years ago 2