2. Turk actor Attila Olgac admits Cyprus war crimes

[fb1907killforfun]

@paoceltic I know :)

I guess we are born to be enemies :P

[hitman00009]

it is true that Atilla Olgac was a turkish soldier in cyprus. However, he was in kitchen throughout the war. There is no possibility he saw or killed other soldiers than turkish ones.

Later, then he admitted that he lied to attract attention (his words at the end of video)

[terraprod]

@hitman00009 no, you are lying , after being negative critisized by turkish nationalist and jurnalist he was forced to say that this was a scenario of a new movie that he was gonna made. Of course no movie was ever made. Finally Turks admit their crimes

[citymontreal]

kurd talk bad about turks

[hoplitespao]

And our politicians want to reunificate cyprus.... Never

We can't live with together

[shadowfax1903]

@hoplitespao boy you people are pathetic

[odrines]

why not I am a human not fascist shit.

[LinkSoul2]

If you are a Turk and you hate what happened in the Turlish invasion then i salute you!

If the world had more people like you then we would have world peace tomorrow!

I salute you and you are the first Turk that i have ever done that!

[shadowfax1903]

@LinkSoul2 i dont see you hating the killing of innocent turks ...or i dont see you hating the 20 000 turks who have been kept in prison camps for 6 months before the invasion ....or the greeks for using a coup to take over the government and put a PRO Greek president as a puppet.

why would we hate the war that has saved the lives of thousands of turkish civilians .

you are just as ignorant as the EOKA...

CRY NOW

[LinkSoul2]

@shadowfax1903

First of all non of what you say happened! 20.000 Turks in prison? We didnt even have prisons back then you fool. Killing of innocent Turks? Yeah some died.....BECAUSE GREEKS DIED TOO! And the coup was done by a few Greek military Xounta officers. The people of Cyprus....THE CYPRIOTS destroyed the Coup de at by themselves and RESTORED DEMOCRACY in mere MONTHS! You accusse the Cypriots? We were the freaking victims here you morons! And EOKA B was wrong! When did we dissagree?

[shadowfax1903]

@LinkSoul2 greeks in the island supported EOKA doenst matter what you say now ...innocent turkish villagers were exterminated ...and secondly 20 000 turks were imprisoned and this is documented by english tv reporters which later taken by the greek government because they didnt want the truth to be known ...because of the law they have released the Video's couple of years ago 40 years law or something.

and you can see the turkish villagers in camps english government didnt release any comment .

[shadowfax1903]

@LinkSoul2 and you as victims? forget it you people supported it if people dont support it an organisation like that cant survive ...and you should know better. blame others for the crimes . and now blame turks for everything...we dont care if the island gets together we want it to ...its a huge hold back to our economy but your people blame others while you do not accept the EU's Kofi Annans plan...well then go to hell you are a BS victim. all you can do all day is to comment on the internet .

[kallipoliacab]

τουρκε σκυλε απιστε ελληνα εχεις σκοτωσει μα απ το μαχαιρι του νεκρου κανεις δε θα γλιτωσει!τουκρε ο καιρος ειναι κοντα!ερχεται η ωρα που θα σε κυνηγαμε μεσα στα αδανα και στην αγκυρα!οταν τον αλλαχ θα συναντησεις να του πεις οτι πεθανες απο μαχαιρι ΕΛΛΗΝΑ!ΕΛΛΑΣ ΚΥΠΡΟΣ ΛΟΚ!

[gekashellas]

Fuck Turgay Cyprus the best

[Buuurraaak]

He is a mad, i think he's liaring just for him popularity.

[LinkSoul2]

Yeah.....that explains everything!

GROW up and open your eyes for Gods sake! This is what happened!

[fukprc]

Why is he not dragged off to NATO's puppet court in the Hague?

[pliktrasgr]

Varvariko...sixameroi anthropoi....

kai to ipourgio exoterikon tis elladas ti kani?MALAKIZETE!Oti poun stin mpakogianni oi masonoi kanei:@:@

[odrines]

I am Turk. That man is just a shit not more. I hate him. I feel me like a greek against that man

[Hellenic04]

"this is only denied to God: the ability to undo the past"

Agathon

[Hellenic04]

Only God knows the thruth...and he waits...

[attilayhn]

hah, arent you a bit old for imaginary friends?

[Greecewar]

malaka tourke ama se bro tha se gamiso

[gayrikidis]

ATTİLA THE HUN 2

[TrojanCanarias]

CHIPRE ES GRIEGO

PUTOS TURCOS

[greecepaladin]

@NiLGUN1903: Hey, this is real life, not science fiction :p

[mariabobis]

Fuck you turks

[PAPASTHEGREAT]

nineta kanis den lei oti den einai anhtropos kai bravo tou meta apo tosa xronia pou ipe epiteous ti alithia pios to tolmai se auto to kathestos alla oti einai eggklimatias polemou einai kai prepi na dikasti epitelous kapios na ksipnisi se auti ti xora pou einai h ellada na yperaspisti to ellhnismo aisxos pia kai prodosame ti kypro mas kai tora to pezoume filos me tous barbarous eleossssssssssssssssssssss

[steliosLdm]

commit the genocides of the kurds armenians-pontians and cypriots

aytoi einai oi tourkoi

[filosofikh]

με βριζουνε κιολας τα σκυλια με προσωπικα μην.

excaliburomega : has posted a comment on your profile:(19 hours ago)

fuck you bitch , suck turks dick

[pliktrasgr]

Εγω στην θέση σου όχι μονο δεν θα έβγαινα στην τηλεόραση, αλλα θα είχα φυτέψει μια σφαίρα στο κεφάλι

[pliktrasgr]

Δεν ξεχνώ ρε αλήτες , αμόρφωτοι , απολίτιστοι , βάρβαροι Τουρκαλάδες!!!!!

Τα ιερά εδάφη της Κύπρου πάντα θα προστατεύουν τους Έλληνες!

Φασίστες τούρκοι!!!!Εγκληματίες.

Και εσύ ρε θρασύδειλε Ολγάτς, τον είχες δεμένο ρε αδερφάρα τον Ελληνοκύπριο οταν τον εκτέλεσες...

[angcos]

tora tha mou peis (kai me to dikio sou, afou auta ta mualas koubalas) oti tha ton ektelousan an arniotane...Se pliroforo pos auto einai pou diaxorizei tous hroes apo tous deilous kai tous prodotes..o enas me demena ta xeria tous ftinei sta moutra kai o allos fila katourimenes podies gia na epibiosh.

[arismech]

angcos esu kai oi omoioi sou ellhnes kwloe8nikistes 8a htan kalhtero na valete ta pragmata katw kai na mn milate epitelous me parwpides.

To na mn 3ereis dn einai kako. Alla to na 3ereis merikws ta pragmata einai tragiko.

Afou loipon esu kai oi omoioi s 8ewreite oti gia ola ta kaka ths xwras mas eu8unontai oi tourkoi kai afou apoti katalava esu eisai kai hrwas megalos pare thn sfentona s kai orma....

Kai na r8eis na mas to pai3eis ellhnaras edw mesa, oxi apo thn agglia.

[angcos]

filaraki ego apo kupro eimai etsi traba allou me tis eksipnades sou...i agglia sto rpofile einai apo to kairo ton spoudon mou...kai den katalaba kati , gia eksiga mou auto? POS STO DIAOLO MAS PISATE oti to na eisai ethnikisths einai kati kako stis meres mas? eeeeehhhhhhh? NAI RE me eimai ethnikisths kai perifanos pou eimai.

[angcos]

kai oso gia to paramithi pou sas mathane oti o stratioths ektelouse diatages asto....Enas fantaros exei UPOXREOSH kai auto einai kai grapto na arnithi entoles pou mporei na parabiazoun tin sunthikh tis geneuhs, entoles pou mporei na strefontai kata tis nomimhs kubernishs tou e.t.c...giauto min poulate auto to paramithi..........

[angcos]

exeis apoluto dikaio ...den epikoinono me ton egkefalo mou. kai oxi..oloi oi anthroipoi den einai to idio...uparxei patrida, ethnos, iera e.t.c. An esu theoreis oti oi ellines einai to idio me tous tourkous tote lupamai, OTI kai an exoun/exoume kanei. emeis uperaspizomastan mia patrida autoi itan oi epitithemenoi.....

[angcos]

i can give you a big list of people thai i have heard of that you have killed the last years.....iliakis, solomos soloumou, tasos isaak, the pilot in imia....and these are the cases that come in my mind this second...then we can go general turkish acts like the armenian genocide, the slaughter of kurdish, cyprus invasion, the stealing of greek youth during turkish occupation e.t.c

[angcos]

another example: NOT ALL REFUGEES had the right to get their land/houses back...e.t.c.

[angcos]

If i say yes in raping a girl next door and you say NO does not mean that you arte the bad guy so always try to read first what your talking about "anan's plan" then take a stand.And if you have then in my opinion your not being truthful. AVNANS plan was giving a lot to turkey and nothing to the cypriots..example: The next day the plan was agreed the cyp goverment would sieze to exist BUT THE TURKISH troops had a span of some years to leave the island....

[angcos]

Cemildc from the way you try to manipulate facts you seem like a clever guy so i leave it up to you to decide which of the two stories he gave is the true.

The recent conflict in russia has nothing in common with the 1974 invasion and in any case your goverment is against the russian side on this subject so your story is just debunged by your goverment.

[gumwithsugar]

MONSTERS WAR CRIMINALS IN 1974

[agiosjo]

i said that because u are the only agressive nation at this area.. And u are believe only what your militaristic goverment says about Greece and Aegean.. U are always discovering problems and they are saying to u that Greece is responsible.

[cemildc]

Some very interesting conversations. I am a Turk and would like to say this guy is a total loser. Firstly he has addressed himself killing 10 people. Secondly he comments on saying that it was all made up scenario for his latest film to point out how bad the war is. So which of his statement is true??? The Greeks tend to go for the first one and point out to whole world that we are the barbarian side and we killed innocent people. Funny enough that nobody talks

[mpogias13]

My uncle died as a prisoner on Cyprus.

AS A PRISONER

[angcos]

Ai sto diaolo NINETA81 pou tha mas peis kai me ti efialtes zei o anthropos,,,ai sto diaolo akomi mia fora pou tha milhseis gia "tin all pleura" ...pseutopasifistria pou tha mas peis oti eixe kai tharos gia na ta pei...THAROS!!O ANTHROPOS pou ektelese demeno aixmaloto..esu kai oi omoioi sou eiste h bromia tou ellinismou..otam katharisei to ELLINIKO aima apo sas tha doume asprh mera....AI sto diaolo akomi mia fora etsi gia na me thimasai

[NINETA81]

Profanos den epikoinoneis me ton egkefalo sou ! exo gnorisei anthropoys (ellines) pou exoun kanei akribos ta idia egklimata kai zoun me efialtes . to oti einai tourkos den simainei oti den einai anthropos. apo ekei k pera brize oso thes. ego theoro oti oloi oi anthropoi einai idio k upeuthinoi gia tis prakseis tous. eite einai ellines eite einai tourkoi eite amerikanoi.

[ellaskypros1821]

he actually killed 10 people and the worst is that he looks proud.... even if they were prisoners of war... MALAKA

[Spartan307]

Θανατος στους τουρκους.

[agiosjo]

Turks are barbarians. Turkey is a militaristic goverment. Imperialistic and aggresive. The dream of every turk is to kill Greeks.

[pompai]

real war..

u call thıs war :P

[pitsinokaki]

I definitely do not agree with racist remarks and idiotic generalizations and I agree with the points made by Steppenwolf and others. My question is: This man said that he committed war crimes. He tried to alter what he said later, but that's not important. What IS important: Is there going to be an official investigation on this?

[xristoslim]

pou na viazoun ti kori sou mera nikta kai nas emprosta na vlepis gie tis skillas

[arismech]

καλα, επικοινωνεις??? ετσι εχεις μαθει εσυ??? οφθαλμος αντι οφθαλμου??? δν ντρεπεσαι λιγο??? μην ευχεσαι για κανεναν αυτα που δεν θες να συμβουν σε εσενα....

[ttbumcom]

OK WAR IS BAD BUT IF A TURK SAY THAT HE KILL A 19 YEARS OLD ARRESTED GUY HE IS NOT TURK.

NOT ALL TURKS ARE THE SAME.

BUT HE MUST TAKE THE responsibility. ATILLA OLGAC MUST JUDGE AND ARREST

[boushveg2]

Jesus look how easy and relax he is talking about the murder he did

[ttbumcom]

That all is played the tv channel and he are toys of the crazy politic in turkey and on the planet.

[ttbumcom]

I am a half Turk half German and i think we must respect all. ( And yes i think Atilla Olgaç must be JUDGE for this words. If he do or not a man in his age must take the responsibility. and JUDGE for this what he say

THANKS

[ttbumcom]

We must save the peace together and we must learn live together in friendship.

Atiila olgaç is a toy of the politic on this world.

Some body is pressing the button and the world is in chaos.

Look kurds , turks , israil, america, iran, greek or or or..

its not importend who its importend that human kills human.

NOW STOP TO SAY THAT TURKS ARE BARBARIAN

ALL HUMAN ARE BARBARIAN THATS OUR NATURE.

[hartzia]

From the people who brought you the first genocide in the 20th century, the Armeanians, the Ponitan Greeks (black sea area, N. Anatolia), Assyrians all Christians in Anatolia. Have brought you this: the invasion and ethnic cleansing of Northern Cyprus. As Hitler said " who remembers the Armeanians?" Who remembers the Pontians, who remembers that North Cyprus was 80% Greek prior to 1974? Not Barbarians? give me a break!!

[steliosc]

Either cowards or barbarians are those that kill captives during a war..Unfortunately turks are BOTH these!!

[picmhpbozkurt]

fuck turkish barbar

[Moonlight2059]

Atilla Olgaç,he is dreamer.He cannot use a rifle even... don't believe him.he was ın charge ın the kitchen ın the Turkish army.

[none3000]

turkish propaganda claims that the turkish army is "something good" and does not kill...it is just making "peaceful operations" killing civilians likein cyprus. Attila shall not be prosecuted, instead to stand up as a witness and send the turkish military regime to Hauge and liberate turks from their fascist regime

[BiFrBiDoBiBi]

Go to hague, son of a bitch. It does not not matter whether you did or or not. If you did, you should be punished if you committed a war crime and violated geneva convention and murdered POWs. If you did not do it, you should again be punished just because you blame Turkish army. Be punished because of your stupidity even if you did not do it.

[KostisOapentaros]

Ego gamo ti mana tu ke ta kopelludkia tu. This is a discrace this is a chickenshit reaction. There will be time that they will pay. We will go again back to our homes sometimes and i suare. NOBODY WILL BE LEFT ALIVE OF THEM. this is something they should know.

[jascuha]

flag...

[spurs89]

perki ton pe3oun j touton ton giopoutano

[696pinoLSD]

karkino na pathis re mpastarte

[ThroatCutter25]

TOURKOS KALOS MONO NEKROS! Filia apo Armenia!

[Tsokara]

I think this is just an average Turk! Now, please imagine how a bad Turk might be!

[daqlon]

I am sorry all of you Greek friends, I am a Turkish person and I ashamed of a man like that, and I know this man will not have any chance to play in any other tv series or in movie. I can make sure that his career just finished after this horrible speech. Turk and Greeks are neighbors and friends forever.

[einSteppenwolf]

Why punish the simple soldier who did not want to kill ("Adam öldüremem, ben sanatçıyım") and was forced by his commander ("Emir verdim mi öldüreceksin") and not the commander himself?

The real reason Atilla Olgaç faces ostracism ("this man will not have any chance to play in any other tv series or in movie") is for having spoiled Turkey's image and "honour" by revealing on of the war crimes of the turkish army.

[daqlon]

He is not a simple solider or anything, he was lying when he said those words, everyone knows he didn't fight in 1974. You don't know what you are saying. He should not play in any tv series or movies not because of Turkish honour. I don't even live in Turkey. I don't care what people think about Turkey. The problem is that kind of guys show up in Tv and try to get credit with lies. So he is more famous now. He basically break the relationships with Greeks. Which we try to fix it.

[einSteppenwolf]

Your claim that "everyone knows he didn't fight in 1974" is very serious. At least the moderators didn't seem to know that.  Do you have any evidence in support of this claim?

[daqlon]

Yeah everyone knows that, I guess you are only writing thing but not listening. Even his officers talked about that. They brought all his army history out. He was so scared to fight, so he only worked at kitchen in the war. Please first search when you write something.

Even this evening he said that 'he lied just to show how war is bad'.

[einSteppenwolf]

You said: "Yeah everyone knows that". The 4 newspapers that published his revelations did not seem to know that.

His having served as a cook does not contradict the executions of prisoners. His commander did not want the illegal executions to be witnessed by an innocent, i.e. the cook, who could later open his mouth and sing without fear. So he made him his accomplice by giving him a weapon and ordering him to carry out the executions. Now the cook could no more speak freely.

[hartzia]

According to international law, this man is a self confessed war criminal. The nuremburg trials, a solder cannot claim that he was "following orders". This man should be tried along with the rest of the Turks who invaded Cyprus.

[einSteppenwolf]

You mentioned the Nuremberg Principle: a solder cannot claim that he was "following orders".

The Nuremberg Principle goes on:

"provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him".

[hartzia]

Exactly my point. This man admitted to commiting a war crime. The Turkish government should arrest him and send him to the Haig for trial. He had the moral obligation to object.

[einSteppenwolf]

But he did object. The commander insisted.

[hartzia]

He then should have refused and risk a court marshal. As it stands now, he is just a guilty as the animal who orderd it. That is international law!!, not my opinion. look it up. If what you say is true, he incriminated his entire government as criminal. In otherwords, Turkey is guilty of international war crimes agaisnt humanity.

[einSteppenwolf]

Would he risk just a court marshal? Or rather a summary execution?

He incriminated his commander, not his government.

War crimes against humanity are crimes against civilian population. The killing of a captured soldier is a simple war crime, not one against humanity.

[hartzia]

If his government does not arrest him, therefore they are responsible. When an American solder commits a crime, he is court marshaled. In Turkey they are war heros. Therefore Turkey is a criminal state and should be nuked.

[hartzia]

According to the Geniva convention, which predates even WWII, it illeagle to kill POWs. Again, call it what you want, it is a crime. But the Turks are Babarians. Such rules are meaningless to them. If they can get away with it, they will do it. Turkey killed 5000 inncent civilians in during its balbaric invasion. It also ethnically cleansed 250,000 people from thier homes who are still refugees to this day. There are 1600 missing POWs , 10 are his victoms.

[einSteppenwolf]

I agree that it is a crime to kill POWs.

Of course I don't agree with the stereotypes concerning the Turks ("the Turks are Barbarians; such rules are meaningless to them"). The Turks are civilized people.

What by nature is not civilized is war. Turkish wars are barbaric not because they are turkish, but because they are wars. Same holds for all wars, no matter which people wage them.

[hartzia]

You miss my point. If the Turks are civilized, then they should bring this man, his commander and the rest of those who committed crimes to justice. My point is if they do not, they are guilty war crimes and are balbarians. The same goes for the Cyprus government. If there is evidence of atrocities against Turkish Cypriot civilians, their goverment should also bring these people to justice as well. Otherwise the Cyprus government are equally barbarian.

[einSteppenwolf]

Governments base their decisions on their interest, not on civilized principles. Sometimes they even declare wars! Were your criterion applied to all governments, the inescapable conclusion would be that all nations are barbaric.

You conclude that If the turkish government do not bring war criminals to justice, then "the Turks" are (collectively) barbarians, but surprisingly, that if the Cyprus government does the same, then not (all) Greeks, but only "the Cyprus government" are barbarians.

[hartzia]

I stand corrected. I ment theTurkish government. The bottom line is that this man is a self confessed war crimial and must stand trial.

I am an American. Recently there was atrocities commited by our solders in Iraq. These men were court marshaled and punished. This is what responsible governments do.

[einSteppenwolf]

Let's hope that the turkish justice will soon begin to investigate the matter.

[hartzia]

In 35 years they never investigated in even when they were ordered to do so buy international bodies like the UN. Why should they do it now?  This is a country which makes it a crime to even suggest that there was a Armeanian or Pontos Genocide. In Cyprus, 1600 families demand closure for their missing but are totally ignored. You must be kidding.

[einSteppenwolf]

No, I'm not kidding, I hope that times have changed. Take for example the unprecedented arrests concerning the Ergenekon case.

[hartzia]

You "hope" . That's all that will be. Until Turkey and it's oppressive, military government becomes civilized, then they will join the family of nations. Not until then, will there be any justice. This "case" you refer to is nothing more than public relations.

[hartzia]

I don't even know this asshole. So, I have no idea about his fame. All I know is that he is a criminal. The military government, which is the real power in Turkey should be held responsible as well. All these generals, should all be brought to trial.

[ellinaras81]

Esei NINETA81 skepsou me ti efialtes zoune oi goneis ton agnooumenon kai min mas grapheis tis mpourdes me tous efialtes tou mogolou ktlp. - den mas endiaferi ean exei efialtes i oxi....

To oraio einai oti ta anaskebase kiolas o paliomalakas - poso blakas einai fenete....

[NINETA81]

re paidia sugnomi kiolas alla o anthropos itan stratiotis! nomizete oti i alli plevra den ekane ta idia? thelei polu tharros na bgei na ta omologisei ! skepsou me ti efialtes tha zei o anthropos!

[maria9cy]

siga min tou dosoume kai apozimioi gia f8ora 4uxikis ugeias! Itan anandro na skotosei ena 19xrono, demeno, aixmaloto, xoris oplo...autos den ine an8ropos alla teras...

[angcos]

koita re anthropoi pou uparxoun...na mas peis gia ton tourko........................­................... na ton sumponesoume. exo ekneuristei kai kourastei me kati tetoious antropous...eliines pethenoun kathe toso (blepe hliakis e.t.c) etsi oste esu na kathese kai na anoigeis to stoma sou kai na petas oti prodotikh malakia sou erthei sto mualo...kai tharos EIXE TO PAIDI o dekaeniaxronos..demenos, aixmalotos kai ton eftise sta moutra...tora traba na deis kamia sapounopera sixamenh uparksi

[paoki1987]

bastarde....to spith sou na gamiso..

[filmatos]

poytanas sperma gamw tin poytana tin fidomana pou se efere ston kosmo...fidi