@justtopissuoff But calling it the "Global War on Towelheads" wouldn't be allowed. As long as it kills them and stands against their efforts to build their World Caliphate, a little terminological shading isn't the worst thing. And if it allows countering the threat to continue, then it's more than a reasonable tradeoff. It's unfortunate we have to do that, but blame the American people and the people of the West for that.
Gobble search: U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Romanian Foreign Minister Teodor Baconschi Tuesday will sign the agreement on the deployment of the U.S. Ballistic Missile Defense System in Romania, according to a press release on the U.S. Department of State website. 09.13.2011
@IChoseTheRedPill It's not sending missiles to Romania! It's building their whole damn border defenses! Why you ask? Because US Oil Companies have moved into Romania. They are GUTTING American Border Defenses while building up borders of the Industries Obama's Jobs CZAR shipped our Companies to.
Defense for Who? This is all BULLSHIT! Son of a bastards are constantly signing and approving MULTI MILLION DOLLAR Missile Defense Agreements with FOREIGN NATIONS! Don't let these bastards cut AMERICAN BORDER DEFENSES WHILE THEY GIVE BILLIONS IN DEFENSE TO FOREIGN NATIONS!
@Zalahblue Just so you understand, a forward defense against missiles is often better than waiting until they arrive here or wherever. Add to that the fact that Romania is a NATO ally, and such cooperation for mutual benefit is part of being allies. This is the reality of survival in the modern world. Presuming you are not some anti-American peacenik in disguise, you need to learn to think on a bigger and more educated scale before commenting on something you know nothing about.
@TommygunNG That's not the point! The point is the WASTE Obama and Hillary are creating by Spending on Foreign Nations WHILE American Families are Being forced to live in Tents and in Vans and Motor Homes! This Administration has TAXED People off their lands and out of their Homes! This Administration has Regulated and TAXED American Industries into the Ground! And for what? So some country overseas can have a Missle Defense System?. Or worldwide Abortions? Fruck That!
@Zalahblue Yes, it is the point, dumbfuck. The spending is not ON foreign nations, it is on our mutually beneficial alliances. Bringing abortion into the discussion is a dishonest red herring. I know it's difficult for people like you to think in terms high enough to understand the reality of the situation. That is why people like you should just shut up. Uneducated people like you are endangering country nearly as much as the Left.
@TommygunNG NO! It's not MY POINT. Your nothing more than a TAX and SPEND Globalist Liberal.
Call it Humanitarian to send in NATO to slaughter, rape and destroy. Damn you sound exactly like HILLARY CLINTON! Do you really NOT know why America is spending MILLIONS to build Romanians Missile Defense? OIL! U.S. OIL Companies are now in ROMANIA! You like insulting others? This one is JUST FOR YOU ┌∩┐(◣ ◢)┌∩┐TROLLSHIT
@MrGilles1990 If he's not a traitor deliberately trying to undermine American security, then he's a complete moron who can't understand a simple explanation of 21st century military and technological reality. Looking at his channel, if we take the NWO crap there as seriously reflecting his mindset, he appears to be more the latter. So my deepest apologies to Zalahblue. He's just a moron who doesn't know not to talk about things of which he's ignorant. Not a traitor, but still a danger.
@TommygunNG "Those who would give up Essential Liberty, to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" I bet more people in America die on the roads than by terrorist acts. The chances are that i will more likely die from a bird dropping a stone onto my head than die from a terrorist act.
Yet we borrow billions and billions to take away our freedom and go onto interventionist wars.
Globalism has failed, liberalism has failed, Conservatism is the answer.
@MrGilles1990 First, congrats on getting that quote correct. Most people cut out the qualifiers & thus distort it. Second, though, you are forgetting the following about Jihadist terrorism that makes it different from what you describe (in no order):
1. It's intended to sway political action.
2. It has disproportionate economic impact.
3. It's an attack on nat'l sovereignty.
4. It's an essentially FOREIGN threat.
5. It's a threat to our civilization and way of life.
@MrGilles1990 Third, consider the consequences a "non-interventionist" foreign policy. Some other power(s) WILL rise to fill the void which U.S. withdrawal would leave, other power(s) which may not be as benevolent, relatively speaking, as we have been. This means foreign domination of USA, whether you like it or not. If nothing else, you'll see the economy change. "Press One for English" will become, "Press THREE for English," and metric measurements will be enforced. Goodbye Pax Americana.
@MrGilles1990 Finally, there's something odd complaining one's country or people have TOO MUCH power. There's a joke about the difference between White & Black racists: "A White racist believes White culture is superior to Black culture & is happy about it; a Black racist believes White culture is superior to Black culture & is mad about it." Perhaps one could say, "A patriot believes his country is strongest & is happy about it; the traitor believes his country is strongest & is mad about it."
@MrGilles1990 When someone wants their country to LOSE on the world stage & acts to make it happen, that heads toward adhering to an enemy, giving it aid & comfort--treason. Your definition of patriotism is deprecating. A patriot, the hymn says, "more than self their country love... & mercy more than life." Patriotism puts country ABOVE self. Comparing threats to individuals to threats to the country is antithetical to patriotism. You may not be a traitor, but you certainly are no patriot.
@TommygunNG Patriotism is not about supporting the politicians of that said country no matter how wrong or immoral their principles are, it's about a love of ones country, and my heart brakes when politicians brake my country by wasting billion and billions in unpatriotic illegal wars a huge public sector and the humiliation of being an EU colony. I am a patriot because i will not go blithely through my life seeing my country being dismantled by the political elite. Your no patriot just a sheep.
@MrGilles1990 You, a patriot? As best you suffer from delusions of conspiracies. More likely you genuinely hate your country and want to see it destroyed. You have no understanding of history or the geopolitical realities of the world today. You malign your country with lies about "illegal" wars, put your individualism before your country, anf wish to see it weakened in the world. Those words at best border on sedition, a federal crime. And yet you claim to be a patriot? Disgusting.
@TommygunNG I am a patriot because i love my country and i wish it was not being dismantled by the political elite that use troops as pawns for their careers, waste trillions of taxpayers money on illegal wars and use taxpayers money to bribe taxpayers. A patriot does not simply mindlessly follow the political elite, but challenges them for the sake of their countries freedom, prosperity and independence. That is why your just a sheep and not a patriot.
@MrGilles1990 It is to our country's shame that people like you are allowed to speak. "Free speech" was never intended to facilitate the destruction of the country guaranteeing that freedom. Such hypocrisy actually robs the First Amendment of its soul, and makes you no better than the PC forces of the Left and the sheethead Civilization Jihadists.
And yes, if I could I would legally silence people like you, along with sheetheads and your fellow seditionists from the other end of the spectrum.
@TommygunNG Ban the Traditional right wing from their freedom of speech, very democratic.
Your ideas of ultimate political correctness and totalitarian liberalism is the death of the west.
Your destroying your own country by supporting the destruction of freedom for little safety against very few Jihadists. You and the Jihadists are very much a like, i hate for freedoms, a hate for democracy, a hate for capitalism, a hate for western culture, and a lust for western self destruction.
@MrGilles1990 I didn't know the "traditional right wing" supported destroying a country's standing among nations. I didn't know it tolerated attacks on national sovereignty. And I certainly didn't know that was "democratic." I did know that the Founding Fathers were very undemocratic. They recognized it only led to mob rule. Hence they established a republic, and an elitist one at that, wherein the population of eligible voters was rather limited and the majority don't always get their way.
@MrGilles1990 Oh, one other thing I did know: Marx said that "[d]emocracy is the road to socialism." When you expand libertarian freedom, you open the way for Leftist "class warfare" and other ideas supporting their agenda. Societies are built on order and structure. The lower classes can be made to be jealous, and then as a society increases its "democracy," this jealousy becomes converted to political power and an agenda which questions order and imposes a social equality--Marxism.
@MrGilles1990 It's only such values as militant nationalism which can prevent that. The Left initially hoped WW1 would lead to the lower classes rejecting nationalism in favor of socialism. Only such actual Rightwing values such as national greatness and loyalty to king, flag, and country prevented that from happening in the West. Thus, "cultural Marxism" was launched, attempting to tear down such values and open the way for the Left's agenda. Your efforts are assisting this agenda.
@TommygunNG Political correctness, what you advocate is a part of cultural Marxism. Neo-conservatism what you advocate was born out of the left of the democratic party in America, which then latched onto the staunch anti-interventionist republican party. Was it not the Soviets that called WW2 the great Patriotic war?
'National greatness' loyalty to the Chairman, red flag and motherland are all things that Stalin's Soviet union practised. What you advocate is the destruction of western liberty.
@TommygunNG Political correctness, what you advocate is a part of cultural Marxism. Neo-conservatism what you advocate was born out of the left of the democratic party in America, which then latched onto the staunch anti-interventionist republican party. Was it not the Soviets that called WW2 the great Patriotic war?
'National greatness' loyalty to the Chairman, red flag and motherland are all things that Stalin's Soviet union practised. What you advocate is the destruction of western liberty.
@MrGilles1990 We could go back and forth like this forever. However, your comments demonstrate that you you have no knowledge of political science. You probably consider Nazism & Fascism Leftwing. You probably don't know that Marxism's goal is a government-free "stateless utopia." And finally, your mischaracterization of the USSR's throwback resort to the actually Rightwing concept of patriotism shows two things: 1. You don't understand Marxist methodology; and 2. You are no patriot.
@MrGilles1990 And your use of "cultural Marxism" as a label for what is exactly the opposite show that you ar either devoid of any mentality or simply disingenuous. Cultural Marxism is intended to tear down people's respect for such concepts as patriotism, yet you accuse someone who seeks to build patriotism of this. You now have no credibility with any educated person.
@justtopissuoff But calling it the "Global War on Towelheads" wouldn't be allowed. As long as it kills them and stands against their efforts to build their World Caliphate, a little terminological shading isn't the worst thing. And if it allows countering the threat to continue, then it's more than a reasonable tradeoff. It's unfortunate we have to do that, but blame the American people and the people of the West for that.
TommygunNG 5 months ago
Let Us Beat Swords into Plowshares...
Kensho
IChoseTheRedPill 5 months ago
Gobble search: U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Romanian Foreign Minister Teodor Baconschi Tuesday will sign the agreement on the deployment of the U.S. Ballistic Missile Defense System in Romania, according to a press release on the U.S. Department of State website. 09.13.2011
Zalahblue 5 months ago
@Zalahblue selling missiles to romania is the least of our problems...
Kensho
IChoseTheRedPill 5 months ago
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Zalahblue 5 months ago
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@IChoseTheRedPill It's not sending missiles to Romania! It's building their whole damn border defenses! Why you ask? Because US Oil Companies have moved into Romania. They are GUTTING American Border Defenses while building up borders of the Industries Obama's Jobs CZAR shipped our Companies to.
Zalahblue 5 months ago
Defense for Who? This is all BULLSHIT! Son of a bastards are constantly signing and approving MULTI MILLION DOLLAR Missile Defense Agreements with FOREIGN NATIONS! Don't let these bastards cut AMERICAN BORDER DEFENSES WHILE THEY GIVE BILLIONS IN DEFENSE TO FOREIGN NATIONS!
Zalahblue 5 months ago
@Zalahblue Just so you understand, a forward defense against missiles is often better than waiting until they arrive here or wherever. Add to that the fact that Romania is a NATO ally, and such cooperation for mutual benefit is part of being allies. This is the reality of survival in the modern world. Presuming you are not some anti-American peacenik in disguise, you need to learn to think on a bigger and more educated scale before commenting on something you know nothing about.
TommygunNG 5 months ago
@TommygunNG That's not the point! The point is the WASTE Obama and Hillary are creating by Spending on Foreign Nations WHILE American Families are Being forced to live in Tents and in Vans and Motor Homes! This Administration has TAXED People off their lands and out of their Homes! This Administration has Regulated and TAXED American Industries into the Ground! And for what? So some country overseas can have a Missle Defense System?. Or worldwide Abortions? Fruck That!
Zalahblue 5 months ago
@Zalahblue Yes, it is the point, dumbfuck. The spending is not ON foreign nations, it is on our mutually beneficial alliances. Bringing abortion into the discussion is a dishonest red herring. I know it's difficult for people like you to think in terms high enough to understand the reality of the situation. That is why people like you should just shut up. Uneducated people like you are endangering country nearly as much as the Left.
TommygunNG 5 months ago
@TommygunNG NO! It's not MY POINT. Your nothing more than a TAX and SPEND Globalist Liberal.
Call it Humanitarian to send in NATO to slaughter, rape and destroy. Damn you sound exactly like HILLARY CLINTON! Do you really NOT know why America is spending MILLIONS to build Romanians Missile Defense? OIL! U.S. OIL Companies are now in ROMANIA! You like insulting others? This one is JUST FOR YOU ┌∩┐(◣ ◢)┌∩┐TROLLSHIT
Zalahblue 5 months ago
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TommygunNG 5 months ago
@Zalahblue Traitor.
TommygunNG 5 months ago
@TommygunNG Traitor to what globalism and liberalism?
I think he was a conservative all the time ;)
MrGilles1990 5 months ago
@MrGilles1990 If he's not a traitor deliberately trying to undermine American security, then he's a complete moron who can't understand a simple explanation of 21st century military and technological reality. Looking at his channel, if we take the NWO crap there as seriously reflecting his mindset, he appears to be more the latter. So my deepest apologies to Zalahblue. He's just a moron who doesn't know not to talk about things of which he's ignorant. Not a traitor, but still a danger.
TommygunNG 5 months ago
@TommygunNG "Those who would give up Essential Liberty, to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" I bet more people in America die on the roads than by terrorist acts. The chances are that i will more likely die from a bird dropping a stone onto my head than die from a terrorist act.
Yet we borrow billions and billions to take away our freedom and go onto interventionist wars.
Globalism has failed, liberalism has failed, Conservatism is the answer.
MrGilles1990 5 months ago
@MrGilles1990 First, congrats on getting that quote correct. Most people cut out the qualifiers & thus distort it. Second, though, you are forgetting the following about Jihadist terrorism that makes it different from what you describe (in no order):
1. It's intended to sway political action.
2. It has disproportionate economic impact.
3. It's an attack on nat'l sovereignty.
4. It's an essentially FOREIGN threat.
5. It's a threat to our civilization and way of life.
Please consider.
TommygunNG 5 months ago
@MrGilles1990 Third, consider the consequences a "non-interventionist" foreign policy. Some other power(s) WILL rise to fill the void which U.S. withdrawal would leave, other power(s) which may not be as benevolent, relatively speaking, as we have been. This means foreign domination of USA, whether you like it or not. If nothing else, you'll see the economy change. "Press One for English" will become, "Press THREE for English," and metric measurements will be enforced. Goodbye Pax Americana.
TommygunNG 5 months ago
@MrGilles1990 Finally, there's something odd complaining one's country or people have TOO MUCH power. There's a joke about the difference between White & Black racists: "A White racist believes White culture is superior to Black culture & is happy about it; a Black racist believes White culture is superior to Black culture & is mad about it." Perhaps one could say, "A patriot believes his country is strongest & is happy about it; the traitor believes his country is strongest & is mad about it."
TommygunNG 5 months ago
@TommygunNG A patriot is someone who has pride in ones country.
Traitors in fact have no connection with their country and would happily betray it if it suited their personal objectives.
Globalism has failed, liberalism has failed, Conservatism is the answer.
MrGilles1990 5 months ago
@MrGilles1990 When someone wants their country to LOSE on the world stage & acts to make it happen, that heads toward adhering to an enemy, giving it aid & comfort--treason. Your definition of patriotism is deprecating. A patriot, the hymn says, "more than self their country love... & mercy more than life." Patriotism puts country ABOVE self. Comparing threats to individuals to threats to the country is antithetical to patriotism. You may not be a traitor, but you certainly are no patriot.
TommygunNG 5 months ago
@TommygunNG Patriotism is not about supporting the politicians of that said country no matter how wrong or immoral their principles are, it's about a love of ones country, and my heart brakes when politicians brake my country by wasting billion and billions in unpatriotic illegal wars a huge public sector and the humiliation of being an EU colony. I am a patriot because i will not go blithely through my life seeing my country being dismantled by the political elite. Your no patriot just a sheep.
MrGilles1990 5 months ago
@MrGilles1990 You, a patriot? As best you suffer from delusions of conspiracies. More likely you genuinely hate your country and want to see it destroyed. You have no understanding of history or the geopolitical realities of the world today. You malign your country with lies about "illegal" wars, put your individualism before your country, anf wish to see it weakened in the world. Those words at best border on sedition, a federal crime. And yet you claim to be a patriot? Disgusting.
TommygunNG 5 months ago
@TommygunNG I am a patriot because i love my country and i wish it was not being dismantled by the political elite that use troops as pawns for their careers, waste trillions of taxpayers money on illegal wars and use taxpayers money to bribe taxpayers. A patriot does not simply mindlessly follow the political elite, but challenges them for the sake of their countries freedom, prosperity and independence. That is why your just a sheep and not a patriot.
MrGilles1990 5 months ago
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TommygunNG 5 months ago
@MrGilles1990 It is to our country's shame that people like you are allowed to speak. "Free speech" was never intended to facilitate the destruction of the country guaranteeing that freedom. Such hypocrisy actually robs the First Amendment of its soul, and makes you no better than the PC forces of the Left and the sheethead Civilization Jihadists.
And yes, if I could I would legally silence people like you, along with sheetheads and your fellow seditionists from the other end of the spectrum.
TommygunNG 5 months ago
@TommygunNG Ban the Traditional right wing from their freedom of speech, very democratic.
Your ideas of ultimate political correctness and totalitarian liberalism is the death of the west.
Your destroying your own country by supporting the destruction of freedom for little safety against very few Jihadists. You and the Jihadists are very much a like, i hate for freedoms, a hate for democracy, a hate for capitalism, a hate for western culture, and a lust for western self destruction.
MrGilles1990 5 months ago
@MrGilles1990 I didn't know the "traditional right wing" supported destroying a country's standing among nations. I didn't know it tolerated attacks on national sovereignty. And I certainly didn't know that was "democratic." I did know that the Founding Fathers were very undemocratic. They recognized it only led to mob rule. Hence they established a republic, and an elitist one at that, wherein the population of eligible voters was rather limited and the majority don't always get their way.
TommygunNG 5 months ago
@MrGilles1990 Oh, one other thing I did know: Marx said that "[d]emocracy is the road to socialism." When you expand libertarian freedom, you open the way for Leftist "class warfare" and other ideas supporting their agenda. Societies are built on order and structure. The lower classes can be made to be jealous, and then as a society increases its "democracy," this jealousy becomes converted to political power and an agenda which questions order and imposes a social equality--Marxism.
TommygunNG 5 months ago
@MrGilles1990 It's only such values as militant nationalism which can prevent that. The Left initially hoped WW1 would lead to the lower classes rejecting nationalism in favor of socialism. Only such actual Rightwing values such as national greatness and loyalty to king, flag, and country prevented that from happening in the West. Thus, "cultural Marxism" was launched, attempting to tear down such values and open the way for the Left's agenda. Your efforts are assisting this agenda.
TommygunNG 5 months ago
@TommygunNG Political correctness, what you advocate is a part of cultural Marxism. Neo-conservatism what you advocate was born out of the left of the democratic party in America, which then latched onto the staunch anti-interventionist republican party. Was it not the Soviets that called WW2 the great Patriotic war?
'National greatness' loyalty to the Chairman, red flag and motherland are all things that Stalin's Soviet union practised. What you advocate is the destruction of western liberty.
MrGilles1990 5 months ago
@TommygunNG Political correctness, what you advocate is a part of cultural Marxism. Neo-conservatism what you advocate was born out of the left of the democratic party in America, which then latched onto the staunch anti-interventionist republican party. Was it not the Soviets that called WW2 the great Patriotic war?
'National greatness' loyalty to the Chairman, red flag and motherland are all things that Stalin's Soviet union practised. What you advocate is the destruction of western liberty.
MrGilles1990 5 months ago
@MrGilles1990 We could go back and forth like this forever. However, your comments demonstrate that you you have no knowledge of political science. You probably consider Nazism & Fascism Leftwing. You probably don't know that Marxism's goal is a government-free "stateless utopia." And finally, your mischaracterization of the USSR's throwback resort to the actually Rightwing concept of patriotism shows two things: 1. You don't understand Marxist methodology; and 2. You are no patriot.
TommygunNG 5 months ago
@MrGilles1990 And your use of "cultural Marxism" as a label for what is exactly the opposite show that you ar either devoid of any mentality or simply disingenuous. Cultural Marxism is intended to tear down people's respect for such concepts as patriotism, yet you accuse someone who seeks to build patriotism of this. You now have no credibility with any educated person.
TommygunNG 5 months ago
@TommygunNG You say your against cultural Marxism, yet you support it.
Your a neo-con and neo-cons are left wing authoritarians with links with communism.
And your talking of credibility?
MrGilles1990 5 months ago