Cool Stuff Being Made: Cutco Knives

[shogrran]

I wouldn't want to argue with coworkers in a job like this.

[beaubert8]

its still 440a, they could have went with a better steel but they are not going to spend extra money on that because then they would make less money.............all blades are tempered with maybe a few exeptions.

[beaubert8]

440a is shit steel

[dblader333]

@beaubert8 but its not 440a, its tempered 440a

[RebelWrestler45]

@dblader333 Every knife company in existence tempers their steel; even cheap $5 a pop Wal Mart crap.

[RrisenVideos]

@beaubert8 Not when it's guaranteed forever.

[coryplaylouder1]

Actually if you look at a price comparison between Cutco and Wusthof, you see that you can get the same amount of knives and Cutco costs half the price. Another thing that makes Cutco worth the investment is the guarantee. Cutco has a forever guarantee. If anything happens to it you can end it back and get a new one. Wustof only has a lifetime guarantee (which usually means about 25 years)., and does not cover any kind of misuse. It only covers manufacturing defects.

[ddkk1000]

You wouldn't pay $90,000 for a ford focus, you wouldn't pay $4000 for a swiss army watch, you wouldn't pay $600 for a Tippmann 98. Why would you pay $1000 for a set of cutco? if your gonna pay that much for knives make sure your getting your moneys worth. Go with Shun, Global, Wusthof, or something like that. You know, real high end knives that are forged and made with higher quality steel

[dblader333]

@ddkk1000 with Cutco your not just buying high quality knives your also buying the forever guaruntee, which insures you never have to buy another set of knives again =3 i love my cutco set (its not complete yet but i love em)

[RebelWrestler45]

@dblader333 With Cutco you're not buying high quality knives at all, and virtually all high quality knives will last multiple lifetimes without the need for replacement or repair, unlike Cutco.

[7x57mmMauser]

440A sucks

[ITheLifeStyleI]

That's a lot of labor!

[ghjallone]

"finest quality high carbon stainless... 440A steel".

yeah, no nead to wonder why these are the world's finest knives, eh?

maybe that's better to ear that than to be deaf.

[bluecollarboiler]

years ago she bought Henkle knives; guaranteed never to need sharpening, they lied. I now just buy knives at the grocery store, $5-6 and they last for a couple years then I buy a new one. Fancy schmancy knives, no more.

[WirlWind494]

@FiddlerAdam Hell, you basically HAVE to temper a knife, otherwise it won't hold an edge. I made my own hunting knife out of an old metal-file and had to soften the metal to work it, then temper it (used motor oil, apparently it's good for adding back some carbon lost while softening it) to put the edge on.

I'm no blacksmith either, I just looked up how to do it online. Was a great knife too, until it vanished on a hunting trip :(

[WirlWind494]

Hahaha experienced artisans means someone who finished highschool, apparently.

[silentknife1989]

wanna see a sword made of this steel

[bobjoemagee]

I made a knife that was 10 times better then a cutco knife in my backyard using shit you can get at home depot.

[ItsMeLonelyLol]

it that is so why do you see 440c on crap china knives

[bobjoemagee]

@ItsMeLonelyLol you see 440a on crap china knives you dumb fuck.

[RebelWrestler45]

@ItsMeLonelyLol 440C is a good quality American steel; you won't see it on crap Chinese knives; you will however, see a whole lot of 420J, as well as 440A on moderately shitty Chinese blades.

[ItsMeLonelyLol]

you idiots! 440 A is the highest grade availible for 440

[RebelWrestler45]

@ItsMeLonelyLol No, it is not. The different grades of 440; A, B, and C denote carbon content, with A having the lowest carbon content, and C having the greatest. Carbon is a hardening agent during heat treat. 440A is by far the cheapest of the bunch with the best stain resistance, but the worst edge retention and cutting performance. 440C is significantly more expensive than 440A, it is harder to grind, forge, and properly temper; it also yields pretty good edge retention, far superior to 440A.

[RebelWrestler45]

@FiddlerAdam Actually, 440A has far better stain resistance than 440C; all you have to do is look at the carbon and chromium content in the two steels to realize that. Still, I don't want any blade that says 440A on it; its cheapo junk with horrible edge retention and toughness. Cutco is KIA quality with a Mercedes price markup.

[ogenmatic]

my favorite bread knife is a Cutco. Got it at a yard sale for a buck.

[TheHellBound666]

this is full of bs unfortunately...not the finest knives, and tempering isn't a rare thing, 440a is also relatively crappy steel, you get what you pay for I guess.

[RebelWrestler45]

@TheHellBound666 No you don't; at Cutco's price point, we should be seeing at least 440C, preferably something closer to ATS-34; heck its price is damn close to Shun's Classic line in VG-10. Also, a low hollow grind for a kitchen knife is terrible for performance, and is only used because it is far cheaper than a full flat grind to produce. Cutco's price markup is ridiculous.

[Mikenopolis]

@SuperOlds88 I actually have a set of Cutco knives with block that my parents bought many years ago to help a family member who was a sales person. We never used them, until I took them a few years ago for my new house. the one knife we used all these years was one of the small "steak" knife with the D-edge, still sharp as hell, never sharpened too! I have a few Henkels and one Global Chef I use daily, Cutco is really not that bad at all, not sure why they never sold in stores

[jdmars02]

Nice video..

Warther Cutlery, Dover OH also have GREAT KNIVES!

[SuperOlds88]

still makes no sense to me. Suppose to be the finest knives in the world, but yet your targeting home use, weird. What makes a knife a professional grade, and the other a home-use grade? Almost sounds like Cutco is saying they makes knives that are better than professional knives.

[ozzirt]

Great Video.

[brooksimusmaximus]

cutco....edgecom..

interslice

[paintball3r91]

the reason people say its a scam is because they have tried to sell the knives and didnt do well. if you just follow the training you will sell but these few decided to not to for whatever reason and didnt sell any. Naturally, they dont want to take the blame so they deflect it back to the company. I have been selling cutco for only 5 days now and have sold over $4,000 worth already. it isnt a scam, the blades sell themselves. its actually a very easy job :)

[RebelWrestler45]

@paintball3r91 Eventually you will exhaust your clientele, and just hope you don't come across someone who knows anything about knives, you won't sell them anything, save maybe the super shears.

[SuperOlds88]

well that last statement has me confused. what is the difference between a home kitchen knife and a professional kitchen knife? if they are making the worlds finest knives, seems they would be targeting the most skilled users. I like how the guy @ 1:49 is sighting down the stack of blades, lol.....these people who make these videos can sure come up with some bullshit to try and fool the public. "Hey Bill, these blades look good to me". Sorry, but its so funny to see this bullshit.

[greatsharkman]

I am actually a sales rep for Cutco myself and my family has had a set for over 20 years and they are still going strong. The factory that makes Cutco, which is located in Olean, New York, also makes K-BAR combat knives for the armed forces.

[freefall250]

"ignored by most manufacturers" What manufactures are you talking about? Only super crappy companies ignore these things. Cutco is much better than walmart kitchen knives, but they just don't hold a candle to someone like Benchmade. (yes, benchmade makes kitchen cutlery)

[SuperOlds88]

well if they are the best I wonder why I have in 20+ years never seen one in a professional kitchen. And I dont mean McDonalds or those kinds of places, I mean in the hands of cooks who have knife skills. I would like to buy American made, but its not there, most cooks are using foreign made knives like Forstner.

[VWYL900802]

@SuperOlds88 thats just cuz cutco is targeted for HOMEMAKERS AND FAMILY MEMBERS. thats why we have a LOW SALES APPROACH. its best for homemakers, not kitchen chefs.

[ThatJoshCruztv]

@SuperOlds88 because we sell them to families mostly.

[Drewch310]

@ThatJoshCruztv All about those HM3's ;)

[wolpack1116]

The more I watch this, the more I'd at least like to try a paring knife or something. I've cut over 20 yards of cardboard with my Kershaw folder with a 440A steel and it would still shave hair off my arm.

[cutco4u]

You wont be disappointed! They are the best. You can also have free in home sharpening done as well.

[saritabonita1]

Great video! I began selling Cutco in the summer of 1979 i believe. it gave me the people skills I use today in my professional sales career. i recommend Cutco sales to any young person that is considering a sales career. My boss at the time was a super trainer. I stll keep in touch with him today after all of these years. I still use the same set of Cutco as well and have purchaed three more sets of Cutco for our children. It is a great product!

[das21898]

they should do cutco vs miracle blade 3.

[Fomar20]

@das21898

ha! cutco would destroy the miracle blade

[thewongfuckinperson]

i sell these knives! they are so awesome i love them! and they are so easy to sell, they sell themselves once u get them in the hands of someone!

[JmasterJr]

i sell them too i started 2 days ago and sold 1500 so far!!

[traderjoes]

These knives are amazing, really. The handles and everything about them is a work of art. They are expensive, but they are worth the investment. These you will pass onto your kids, and their kids.

[wolpack1116]

Saying few knives are subjected to the heat treating operation is false. Most knives are heated, quenched, and draw tempered. Some dont use the low temp freeze, but some dont need it either. I also think the labels on the micrographs may be backwards, but without knowing the magnification and how they were prepared its very difficult to tell whats going on. The knives look like good ones, but the marketing can contain some hype.

[bengib21]

how exactly does the marketing contain hype?

[wolpack1116]

Like I said, saying very few other knives are heat treated is false. -120 degrees is not generally considered cryogenic. Saying 440A is the finest steel is very subjective and debatable. They also say it is the worlds finest cutlery, which is equally subjective. I will not argue they are very good, and I really like the handles, but there is nothing special about them unless they are compared to less expensive blades.

[RebelWrestler45]

Saying 440A is the finest steel is not really subjective or debatable, its completely bullshit. As far as I am concerned, the kitchen cutlery market is behind the curve of innovation, in materials and design, compared to the outdoor/hunting/tactical knife industry. 440A is a middle of the road steel, which none of the top of the line companies (spyderco, benchmade etc.) use. Even for kitchen cutlery, 440A is poor compared to other steels in use such as VG-10 or higher carbon 440 steels (B,C).

[wolpack1116]

For what they are asking in price, I'd like 440C or better. That said, their heat treatment as described here seems designed to get the most 440A has to offer. At least the cold treatment is done during the process, not an afterthought like some places. Again, the higher end steels could easily double the price. 440A is the "best" for them because it gives adequate performance and can be fine blanked rather than having to laser cut the blades.

[RebelWrestler45]

I would agree, I'd like to see at least 440C, though Cutco likes to brag about how dishwasher friendly their knives are, and 440C isn't as corrosion resistant as 440A; but really, no cutlery should ever be put in the dishwasher. As a person who has sold thousands of dollars worth of Cutco, I just wish they would use finer steel, so they could compete in quality with the likes of Shun (a kershaw brand). I do like Cutco's paring knives, and I would recommend them, check out their boning knife too.

[wolpack1116]

For the average kitchen knife user, 440A is fine IMO. They're paying for a name, and the finish and the handles, which are quite comfy from what I've held. They incorporate the low temp treatment properly instead of adding it as an afterthought, and they're one of the few knives still made in the USA. Since you've sold them, do they honor the guarantee?

[RebelWrestler45]

That's probably the best thing about Cutco, they honor their guarantee, and will replace blades that are damaged from normal use, and in some cases even negligent use. Their handles are decent, but they are not expensive to manufacture, and are too small for me. For the average kitchen knife user, 440A is fine; it just doesn't have enough edge holding retention for me. I don't want to have to hone and strop my knives after every use, and then have to sharpen them every two weeks.

[cutco4u]

You should check out CATRA and get the real test results (real objective testing). Cutco is rated # 1 in Blade Retention and Sharpness out of box.

[RebelWrestler45]

Catra tests are not real objective tests for kitchen cutting performance. In the kitchen, knives come in contact with much harder materials and surfaces than the cutting media used in testing. This will create a bur much faster on softer steels like 440A. Also, notice Cutcovconveniently left out another major market competitor, Shun, out of the testing; and for good reason. Like I said, 440A is a middle of the road steel, and cannot compete in blade retention or sharpness vs. VG10, 440 B,C etc.

[cutco4u]

They honor their guarantee well. You can even have a representative come out to your home and sharpen your product right there in your home. Once you buy a set, thats it!

[jcal5150]

5 + fave

[poopklown90]

I've worked for vector and cutco now for a week and a half. I was already invited to the sc2 conference (special invitation)

And have already been promoted twice. Nice thoughts going along with my nice paychecks too:)

[torpcomics]

Everybody keeps complaining about the "no pay for training" or that you have to buy the sample set for the job. What about the knives? Are the knives scams?

[4sland]

I have also gone through the training, and the knives are beast. Can't find any knife to stand up to it, with that DD edge.

[wolpack1116]

I like the handles a lot. The blades are hardened well and tempered low for a fairly high hardness. The steel used is generally not considered top of the line, but it is good, and top of the line stainless steel could double the price.  The sharpening is similar to the way I sharpen my own knives on a belt sander, and they will cut letters off newpaper without cutting all the way through, basically filleting the letters off newspaper stock. The DD edge is a varation of a serrated edge.

[Colombian305man]

Tips on selling big. Dont start by showing the HM + 8 anymore. Start by showing the Ultimate entertainer a the complete set. "Mrs Jones this is our complete set. This is the best set for people who cook a lot, love to entertain, and like to have the best in their homes. Its the only set that brings enough place settings for everyone."

[1Enkyo]

Well, then, it all takes hard work.^^

The only Scam, is the people who keep calling Cutco or Vector a Scam...xD

[RedwoodASenior09]

@1Enkyo i completely agree i dont understand why they think its a scam, iguess its because they just couldnt take the pressure of BEING YOUR OWN BOSS!

[mkelebay]

@1Enkyo sry no your a tard, learn your shit its a scam.

[Readingiseasy]

Cutco is a Scam!!.

[wolfdragon1209]

it is. you're supposed to be paid for training and you're just supposed to get the stuff for free. that wouild be a true job.

[ggag0310]

Well I didn't have to pay for my kit and ya I didn't get paid for training but I learned a lot I made key staff and I'm the only one of my friends who enjoys going to work and I make more money than most of them

[ggag0310]

the knives are great. i love my job. i make 15 bucks a demo and 15% of sales. i love it. the knives basically sell themselves. plus its great experience. idk if anyone else who worked there heard this but just cut rope and smile. the knives sell themselves. :)

[wolfdragon1209]

when'd you get your first promotion? because i'm working there as well

[Colombian305man]

Just follow and learn the manual and ul do great bro. 9& 10 are HUGE!!!!!

[ggag0310]

:) cutco is great I'm an advisor. And 305 is right nine and ten are huge but what helps me is to build get to know my customer a lot plus don't be afraid to call your manager in the middle of a demo if you need help idk how many times it's worked are you guys in a push?

[Colombian305man]

Keep killing it bro. I started a year and a month ago and I'm running my own office.

[velcroboy60000]

I just got a letter from these guys... or at least their Vector Marketing arm... The more I look at it, this looks like a scam.

And this video is SOOOOOO funny with all the buzz words!

[adamgomori90]

yupp just started my training yesterday.. At first it did seem shady, not gonna lie, but I do think it's high quality merchandise. Also it's a great employment and experience opportunity for college/university students.

[theemigdio]

@adamgomori90 i work for the palmsprings office (number1) no lie, im lazy and only made $40 but some people are bust $900 paychecks @_@

[ggfuckingallin23]

@adamgomori90 you suck

[adamgomori90]

@ggfuckingallin23 *facepalm*

Yea.. That was a year ago. SCAAM!!! It's very shady.

[JeffreyRodriguez]

I'm having flashbacks to my Vector Marketing days.

[Colombian305man]

The World's Finest Cutlery. I love my job.

[thekgmaster]

Great product, shady employment tactics.

[Leeabe]

Wow, that's where cheap knives are made.

[BladeSlinger2000]

?Cheap Knives? I just toured the factory in Olean and I must say that I'm not sure why you think these knives are cheap. Obviously you've never had the priveledge to cook with Cutco and if you have and had some problem the amazing Forever Guarantee allows you to replace any of their products that aren't performing properly so your satisfaction is Guaranteed. I stand behind Cutco as well as the company does, Forever! Go get Cutco and you'll be extreamly happy you did. I can help if you want

[fknt76]

I have CUTCO and they ROCK my fav. is the Table Knife!

[FredrickVonShwinkel]

Cutco! Cutco!

[acedogg692005]

I use to work there until i got layed off man, i loved that Job. Wish i could get back in there... at 8:27 thats what i did, Inspection... but i worked 3rd shift. still the best job i ever had $15+ hr to look at knives.

[jacksturCubstur]

is this a tv show?

[theappleman257]

I've been to that factory many times. I live about 20 minutes away and my mom works there

[mg1394]

Nice video! couldn't be explained better.

is there a way you can email me this video?

so i can burn it in a dvd. My best friend is

selling this product and this can be of a lot of help in his presentations.

Thank you for the time you taking to read this.

MG1394

[grimreap792003]

it wouldn't really fit into the presentation. it doesn't really add that much to the presentation and the video is too long. I've never felt that this video would help me in my presentations. maybe thats just me though.

[ferich2001]

you could email it to your sales, and no sales to solidify your sale or renew interest.

[veelittle]

those are trimmers lol