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  • The note you hit on 2:23 seems to be head voice, not chest voice. Am I wrong? how can I see the difference?

  • @Rpgmakero

    Well, ideally a good mixed sound and a chesty sound wouldn't be THAT different except as one goes higher and higher, but I guess the main difference (for me) is that the head mix sounds a lot more open and free while the chesty high C sounds a bit squeezed and tense.

  • You can sing perfectly power metal!

  • @Rpgmakero

    I have sung some Led Zeppelin at school ;) but I was told I sing it too cleanly, as my voice does not have the natural gravel a lot of rock singers have.

  • @primohomme Power metal has clean and powerful voices. Take a look the song "Key to the universe" by Timo Tolkki, it's a ballad. He's not the best power metal singer but is really hard to sing

  • @primohomme what natural gravel are you talking about? Those guys just smoke a ton of weed to get the gravel.

  • @elitestar

    hahaha perhaps you are right :P

    Anyway, my voices does not do "raspy" or "scratchy" or "gritty" unless I'm extremely tired or have eaten spicy food or swallowed raw eggs and vodka like that lady who voiced the devil in "the exorcist", LOL. So in school whenever we did some metal stuff and they got me to sing all those high rock songs they would tell me "No! you are singing too clean, this is Led Zeppelin not Celine Dion!". 

  • I have scaled up to a Bb5 with no breaks in a connected full tone, wouldn't this be my head voice that I'm using since there are no breaks and a seamless transition?!

  • primohomme

    I do not know much about music or singing but I like to learn. Can you tell me what kind of breathing technic was used here? /watch?v=QG6dVUPJ-SY between minute 2:10 and 2:27

    I know this is not an opera singer is a pop singer but I'm interested in konowing, thanks

  • Greatvideo!

  • Feel free to experiment.

  • I wanna ask you...I'm a baritone but capable of going up into the tenor range...is it possible for me to mix above C5?

  • @azimelserpentine

    I've heard some baritones sing up to high C, but never higher

    However, if a heavier tenor voice like mine can get up to a soprano high D in mixed voice, I imagine there must be some baritones who can sing mixed voice perhaps up to tenor high D or E-flat perhaps...

    In the bel canto era there was a singer called Andrea Nozzari, he was said to be a baritone in tessitura, but his range went from G2-E5, and roles written for him go from A2-D5.

  • @primohomme Wait If a heavy tenor can go as high as up to D6 in mix. Wouldnt a baritone be able to go up to G5# or something?

  • @PennyDreadful1

    I don't know, the range of each person is highly individual...

    But I do think a high baritone could be able to stretch his voice range using a head voice mix perhaps as high as Eb5, and even maybe G#5 a pure quasi-falsetto head voice sound. It's entirely possible, yes.

  • @primohomme But a low tenor is only a few steps higher than a baritone?

  • @PennyDreadful1

    A dramatic tenor is about a whole step higher than a lyric baritone

  • @primohomme A whole step is still not a whole lot. It is certainly not a whole octave.

  • @PennyDreadful1

    That's what I mean...

  • Thank you for sharing your knowledge and your passion for vocal techniques. I'm always in awe of all these variants in the vocal field. I don't know if you have or will ever decide to teach, but I think you'd make a superb instructor-{kinda like La Callas when she became older}. I've always said singing is much more complex than most people imagine, and all your videos on singing are proof of that. We'll never stop learning!.

  • I really like this video

  • My goodness, primohomme, you sound great as a dramatic tenor. Now, I know a guy from australia who can sing above a soprano high C and go a scale off the piano. He currently holds the Guinness world record for the wildest vocal range. He can hit an A11 in whistle range. He is better then that other woman who also had the wildest vocal range (Georgia Brown)

  • @Teddyrockstheworld1

    Yes, Adam Lopez has a huge range, but IMO he doesn't really support those notes

    His C6 is very much like a falsetto (though might not be falsetto), but whistle register is very good though.

  • I have been running your audio through my spectral analysis tool and I can easily see that your head-voice mix is not falsetto. Oh my goodness so many formants in your tone! But in all fairness your falsetto is more connected than say that fellow who sang falsetto in the beginning of the recording. I can see the difference.

  • You need to listen to me sing to tell me what I am doing wrong! This was an excellent video. Can I use it for education purposes?

  • @mradaChris

    Of course, I uploaded it for education :)

  • In your vocal slides, it sounds like your natural register shift is around E3, typical for baritones and much lower than people usually expect. You do have quite an impressive top extension to your range! The different qualities you demonstrate would be used depending on the style of the pieces you're singing.

  • @PaulFagundes

    You are right, there is a passaggio around E3 that men have but is not usually talked about, my teacher told me about it, how men have passaggio at E3, E4-G#4, B4-C#5, F#5, and then the same as the female voice (if the male can keep going that high).

  • @DespicabIe

    Pure head voice would sound like the ingenue sopranos, like Hayley Westenra

    Similar to falsetto in the oboe-like sound but with a more crystal-bell quality

    I can take a pure and very light head voice sound up to Ab6 sometimes, but it's not ready for show as it's a tiny sound.

  • I always wanted to know what what range you thought my higher end notes were produced in? Is it falsetto/or head :)

  • @CareemBrownMusic

    Show me an example

  • @primohomme like in my audio recording of Kelly Clarkson's song, I hit and sustain an A5 towards the end.

  • @CareemBrownMusic

    Not sure about that one, doesn't have as much bite as a head-mix sound, but it's better than a falsetto or falsettone, I'm sure it's not a falsetto.

  • @primohomme Oh wow really? My notes sound like that?! Interesting!!! Makes me feel good to hear that! I have actually taken that part of my voice up to B5, with vibrato and everything :)

  • Hello primohomme, I'm Teddy. I am a singer from my band, Plastik Eye Nation. Now, I have a lot of trouble hitting a more powerful A5 (Above Tenor C) and I was wondering, can a bass-baritone like me hit such a high note? I mean my voice can hit am A1 perfectly, my high range is always a last resort to falsetto. What should I do about my high range? Should I just keep on doing falsetto or head voice?

  • @Teddyrockstheworld1

    Well, it's always possible to extend the range but every person's range has natural limits...with falsetto there have been basses (such as Ivan Rebroff) that have become sopranists reaching even G6, and most counter-tenors are natural bass-baritones.

    With connected head voice perhaps the upper limit for a bass-baritone would be A4 or Bb4...it really depends on the individual. I am a dramatic tenor, almost baritone and can sing those high notes.

  • So is it true that somebody has a higher falsetto and some has higher head voice? I have some friends, a guy can't even push falsetto to E5 but he can go up to C6 by head voice pretty easy. The other guys find it hard to hit C6 by head voice,but still can push falsetto up there.

  • @weri8806

    I think so, I've heard that natural high tenors have more of a head voice extension and short falsetto while basses and baritones have less head voice and more falsetto extension...in that case I'm an oddity because I am a dramatic (coloratura) tenor with heavy chest voice almost a baritone, but my head voice extends very high.

  • very nice! is there a chance you can talk about vibrato? more specifically how do you train it to be faster? like 6-8 oscillations per second.

  • @HoulMello

    Vibrato IMO is a byproduct of a properly excercised voice

    A vibrato that is too slow comes because of improper breathe support (there was a slight bad vibrato on the held C5 in head voice after the falsetto C5, as I didn't breathe carefully), while vibrato that is too fast it's because of tension in the throat and also improper breathe support blasting too much air

  • @primohomme in one of your last uploads "Nina Foresti (Maria Callas age 12) - Un bel di (1935)" that vibrato is close to 7 ops, that's what i meant. so are you saying that things like melismas, runs, vibrato (the one controlled by tension in larynx and the cords, like in ur upload) are getting more control as you exercise? is there anything more specific i can do to train that accuracy in the voice? this concerns me quite a lot.. bc i lack all those, and i feel like the voice is controlling me

  • @HoulMello

    Training breathe support and straining intonation ;)

    Breathe support is the basis for healthy singing

  • @HoulMello

    Callas said one must break the voice into a thousand pieces, then put it back together a nd dominate it so it will serve you. That is accomplished through study and discipline.

  • @primohomme oh yes, that is exactly what i'm doing:) thanks! and happy new year :D

  • @HoulMello

    You too! Best wishes :)

  • Very good explanation, and I just love your voice! Also did you teach yourself the ability to distinguish notes or did it come "naturally"?

  • @Snickerfritzs

    What do you mean by "distinguish notes"? Distinguish pitches or distinguish between registers? I think everybody can distinguish between registers, when it comes to distinguish pitches or sort of recognize pitches by ear (and being able to sing specific pitches without other reference) is an ability I've developed with study and training, it's almost perfect pitch but not yet perfect, still working on it :)

  • @primohomme Urgh I should have phrased it better sorry! I was moreso inquiring about your pitch. What I actually meant with distinguishing notes was the ability to hear a certain pitch and to be able to identify what note it is; C5 G5 etc! :D But you said you pretty much developed it with study and training?

  • @Snickerfritzs

    Yes, my intonation has been developed through ear training :)

  • Creo que más o menos me ha quedado claro, pero una pregunta ¿cómo mezclas las voz? Quiero decir, por ejemplo cuando estoy por casa cantando cualquier tema de Barbra o Aretha cuando intento ir a las notas altas el color y el tono de mi voz cambia totalmente y a veces sueno como una ardilla más que como una persona y a veces la nota se acaba cortando,a lo Xtina, qué se puede hacer para acceder a esas notas de una manera más sencilla y sin perder la resonancia y la potencia?

  • @BELTERFAN

    Lo mejor para eso es trabajar en mantener la laringe estable y baja, no dejar que se suba ya que la laringe levantada es muy malo para la voz.

    Puedes tratar respirando como el principio de un vostezo, como una sorpresa agradable, eso pone el diafragma listo para el apoyo, levanta la paleta suave y baja y relaja la laringe.

  • @primohomme Muchas gracias!! Es exactamente lo que me pasa, de repente se me cierra la garganta y se acabó la nota. Intentaré mejorar mi técnica. Me voy a ver unos vídeos de Patti Labelle jajajaja

  • The High F in I Puritani by Pav is not only eeeery as fuck, but very appropriate. If you notice when he's singing in modal voice, the harmonic overtones are very rich in number. Then comes that airy falsetto thing which is so colourless and disconnected from the body ...

    And very nice vocal displays with the scales, showing no break in sound and a "seamless" register with the rest of the voice.

  • @BZBlaner

    Thank you! and yes, if there truly was a break between the middle and the head-mix one would hear an obvious "snap" or "shift of gear", but as I slide up there's no breaks or shifts in gear, it's all one sound just lighter and brighter in color as it goes upwards.

    Pavarotti didn't have the high F in head voice, his top was probably D5, very good high D though. That role was written for Rubini, a tenor with a range up to G5 in head-mix.

  • @BZBlaner I think Alfredo Krause does not do it in falsetto, and neither does Gedda.. Do you know?

  • @kgarmaker123

    Yes, I agree, they use more of a head-mix, still they carry more of the chesty sound upwards into the head-mix than I can do it safely as my voice is placed lower than their voices.

    Also I like Gregory Kunde's high F in "A tanto duol...Ascolta, O padre".

  • @BZBlaner I am not sure if that High F by Pav is falsetto. I am looking at it with a spectral analyzer and I'd say that it was his head voice, with with a purer tone as the formants where very distinct. When he sang just prior to it his formants looked erratic and not pure crisp tones per the graph.

  • It was you at 2:19 ?

  • @RomuloVideos2

    The high C in chesty sound? Yes, it's me, I usually don't take my voice too high, I can go up to D5 in that chesty sound if I push, but usually the highest I would take that ever is G#4 or Bb4 at the most...I use more of the mix for the upper register, that way my voice remains agile and my top notes stay free.

  • Yes! Finally someone understands! I've been trying to explain this to people for YEARS...

  • Awesome video, as usual. Very informative in terms of both your singing style and other male tenors. I will tell you that there is something extremely full in terms of the sound of your head voice that I just flat-out love.

  • @Hockyluv21

    Thank you :)

    I hope it serves to clarify the confussion many people get when they think men can only sing high by using falsetto. The truth is my falsetto has a very narrow range, the C5 I showed in falsetto is about as high as I can take falsetto before I start choking.

  • @primohomme What you may realize too is that falsetto can be sung in lower tones as well. I have heard falsetto in notes below mid c.

    

  • @mradaChris

    I have never really heard a falsetto lower than C4, I personally cannot sing that low in falsetto, my falsetto range goes from about E4-C#5

  • Well, you are as good as... if not better than Saucedo. Have you heard the various electronic tricks modern 'singers' use to enhance their voices? I tend to think one of my dogs could most likely make an acceptable 'pop' record... assuming they were willing to offer themselves for the required plastic surgery. Beginning serious.. I quite like euphoric euro pop. I used to be able to sing with falsetto when in my mid and late teens. No longer... or at least the range is not extended by its use...

  • @VoiceClassical

    LOL, don't diss Danny, he is good at what he does and can sing live

    I chose his soprano B-flat because it's the best example of a falsetto high B-flat I could find in pop recordings, I wanted to compare my own technique to both falsetto and falsettone, so though I could have used a sopranist counter-tenor instead I haven't recorded any Bb5 in a classical recording :)

  • @primohomme I am not 'dissing' anyone... it is the mere truth...

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