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  • I really didn't care about them until they released this song. :) Love Dixie Chicks for fighting ♥

  • Shit!, they changed through the last 20 years.

  • Excellent country song. Good clip too

  • About what is this song,about what she is singing.English is not my language,so,i can't understand the point.Could someone explain me?

  • @Yellowatz I think this song was a respond to 'hostility' act against them back in 2003 caused by lead vocal's comment on Bush and his policy, which is found by some people as "Un-American" and "Un-Patriotic"

  • @calciumkid85 OK.Thanks!

  • @calciumkid85 do we really have to relate it to the Iraq war always?? people just keep on reading between lines and are fond of it.. :-)

  • @2010inMotion Haha..no sorry i didn't mean to politicize. But the lady down there was asking what caused the controversy and backlash upon dixie chicks.

    And i answered exactly what was happening (according to mass media and internet) and THAT what actually happened. Whether like it or not, their controversy directly and clearly related to pre-iraq war event back in 2003 cause, they denounced US government and attacked President Bush personally due to his controversial war policy

    PEACE!

  • prettyy..

  • im not a fan of dixie chicks...but im definitely inlove with this song

  • i just had to interject...if leonid3s was sooo intelectuall with all his degrees shouldnt he be debating in some world important crisis solving debate ??? i didnt realise sounding smarmy and arrogant on youtube was a profession!!

  • one of my favorite songs!

  • I would love to tie up Fatalie and coat her in peanut butter before joining her in a little three way action as I let my buddy Dubya show why he won "best in class" at the last dog show.

    Oh she would be ready to make nice then I bet.

  • I fucked a woman and came on a blanket. Than I took that blanket and made it into a roll, and I put all my dirty panties in that roll and dropped it into the washer for a load on spin cycle. Than afterwards I put the clean clothes in the dryer and let it dry. Soon the clothes smelled fresh again and I used them for my next cumming session.

  • gppceo: I did watch a little of the eye opening video you suggest but stopped, because it's all stuff covered in LOOSE CHANGE,a film I already saw. You are right about eye-opening stuff, not sure what to believe except what I've already said about America's close relationship with Saudi Arabia. Btw-I think your assertion of Israeli accents on the Betty Ong video is ridiculous. If it is there, it's been edited. LOOSE CHANGE is a mind blower that should be seen by everyone.

  • the best audio tracks are at the craigmead web site under politics

  • gppceo:Sorry don't need to go there,no matter how authentic the audio sounds I know it was 15 Saudis out of the 19 on 9/11.LOOSE CHANGE presents a mindblowing case and I'm not sure I believe it or not. I am just sure of what happened after the fact. We sent our troops to two wrong countries when we should have invaded Saudi Arabia and told them you can have your country back once all of Al Quaida is at our feet and because we know that so much Saudi money got into the wrong hands and led to 9/11

  • I understand-its not just the audio tracks there-it is a complete case by a trained legal expert-not just some 'video'-a sequence of evidence/witnesses-but then we are TIRED of that&NOBODY wants to view more videos-it is a BIG question with implications-HUGE-like a million kids in Iraq or 5000 dead U.S. kids&it is because of such implications that I believe there is no value in war-anywhere-unless all Americans weigh ALL evidence BEFORE we allow a President to kill our kids&bankrupt our nation

  • gppceo: You are a moron! Go shove a dead skunk up your infected shitter. Your analysis is so flawed. By the way, please try to communicate in cohesive sentences. GOD, you're stupid!

  • Taa DAHHHH! Look, I can shove cans of creamed corn up my asspipe just like gppceo!

  • M5nebster7: You are disgusting, and you are worse than Leo3s, like leo3s, I wish you a slow death in a fiery car crash based on your childlike behavior shown so far.

  • gppceo: I agree with you 100% and my apologies for whatever M5nebster7 writes he is not me.

  • Dixie Chicks are the leaders in their industry. I'm honored to be on the same soil as they.

  • gppceo: You are the reason lions eat their young and seals club their penises. Being from Saudia Arabia, you should really try to learn how not to be a noob. This is ameri-fucking-ca!

  • I love that my husband's strapon is here. hopefully I can get fucked properly now.

  • Will someone please tell Leo to wipe his ass properly. I'm sick and tired of all this shit.

  • I love the smell of small intestine. I"ve tried bottling it, but I get way too worked up shoving the bottltle up leos ass.

  • Natalie's only mistake - old Jewish Rabbi saying "One step ahead of the pack - you are a genius. Two steps ahead and you are a crackpot." Natalie was almost 10 years ahead of everyone - she was a visionary - the Dixie Chicks stuck to their guns and in doing so were more American, more Patriotic and braver than anyone who went along with Bush because they were afraid of ramifications. Many people don't realize that for all her mouth, Natalie would make a mighty fine President.

  • BTW: For those not aware-the U.S. has had a relationship to Saudi Arabia since WW2. So on 9/11 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis on that horrible day. I think for the last 8years we still aren't looking at the real picture. We still need gasoline for our cars, and we still send troops to the wrong countries to keep the flow of gas coming? If that is the real America, I pray for change in our leadership ASAP.

  • Never forget...

    The accents of the hijackers heard in the background

    when Flight Attendant Betty Ong made contact with the ground flight control

    were not Arabic. They were Israeli and before you answer with some emotionally ballistic reply

    save us all the trouble - go play the sound tracks (available right here on youtube),

    and record it and take it to a language/Middle Eastern expert. I did - to 5 of them - and 4 of them agreed.

  • gppceo:So recordings off of YouTube are reliable sources you can trust? I remember many years ago in 1992 watching on the news the LA police doing the Rodney King beat down. I saw police kicking him before any effort was made by King to pick himself up. Now on YouTube no police kicks are visible what happened?Any audio or video tape can be altered. 15 of the 19 hijackers were Arabic not Israeli. Americas terrorist problem is a result of its long close relationship with the Saudis who funded 9/11

  • I asked you to run the tape with a language expert before responding. Your rapid response means you didn't actually LISTEN/RECORD/VERIFY evidence before ATTACKING its validity & ME - a fellow American. That's the whole problem with 9/11-WE REACTED BEFORE EXAMINING WHAT REALLY HAPPENED&WHO DID IT. As a result our nation is now bankrupt. We got sucker punched TWICE because WE'RE STUPID when we REACT like a drunk in a bar. I agree-EVIDENCE CAN BE ALTERED, PLANTED, MISREAD. I was a law clerk for a..

  • retired Federal Judge&saw all kinds of bogus evidence-so MY JOB was to go into the field and verify or debunk it with COLD LOGIC&WITNESSES. By your own statement our GOVT. had a relationship with people who funded terrorists. That might explain why BUSH SR. was meeting with Bin Laden's BROTHER when the planes were hitting the buildings&why the Bush family related to the insurance firm that canceled the polices on the towers 2 weeks before the attack: wake up&smell the coffee Dude-verify the tape

  • Now back up-U&I r@aDCconcert-in adjacent seats: we agree the music/fiddle/banjo thing is delightful-we toast a beer. We agree the harmonies are absolutely the best-we toast a beer. We agree the girls got railroaded-we toast a beer. We agree this creep Mensa is a stalker with no life-we toast another beer(I buy). We agree the girls have Heuvos-we toast a beer(you buy)&our wives exchange numbers figuring we're all gonna go camping or something. Then towards the end of the show I say..."Did ya...

  • ..check this or that evidence."&you say No way-that was planted. &I say WAS NOT!&You say WAS SO!&our wives are getting nervous cause we're spilling beer all over em&the next thing ya know we're both out front, all bloody from beating on each other& those big security guys that smacked us around& our wives don't talk to either of us for a month &(ahem)we ain't never going camping together-ooops-until we find out our 8 year old kids sit next to each other in class: you getting the picture pal?

  • But wait-we go camping&your older son comes along&he's a big fan of the Marines-gonna join-& wants to prove to his dad how tough he is, so he tucks your rifle into sleeping bag&out in the woods, takes a shot@me cause he HEARD you hated me&can't figure why we're camping out. He's gonna fix everything. Well he misses&gets busted&is in jail for 2to5. Now you hate me even though I didn't do squat except express my opinion and agreed to disagree with you. Then our 8 year old kids grow up&my son

  • has the hots for your daughter since age 8&knocks her up.BOY do you hate me now-wanna throw my kid in jail, but wives fix it up&the kids are married@18Meanwhile my boy won't talk to me cause I hate you&you're kid out of prison swears he's gonna kill me&your daughter hates you&nobody is gets along-so wives dump us both&now all families are torn up w/ rage.STOP-HEAL-FORGIVE-GET ALL FACTS. Even if it wasn't Israeli accents-there were bombs in the buildings that killed F.D.N.Y. WHO planted those?.

  • &ourFAMILYdramaAINTover-it goes on for years, sometimes generations.Yer son joins&discovers war in Afgan is about heroin-our military is wiping out the growers cause they want a better price than the Intl. dealers are paying-its a drug war (my Navy Seal buddy explained it all), so your VetMarine son knows he was hoodwinked and tries to explain it to you-now you hate him too. I give my biz to my son, your daughter does the books&gets her brother, back from Afghan, a job. They are all best pals.

  • GPP: You have the logic of an 8 year old. I'll bet your penis is smaller. Let me Google a witty response to prepare for your retaliation.

  • YOU HIRED THE KID WHO SHOT@ME! I never speak to my son again.YOU WORK FOR THAT FAMILY?You never talk to your kids again.The ex-wives go to turkey/xmas-we sit@home hating each other. This is EXACTLY the mess between Natalie&Lubbock, Country&the Dixie Chicks-its so convoluted w/ people bashing everyone else-ALL BECAUSE OF HATE-and our GOVT knows it-Machiavelli said "Divide&Conquer"& thats what govt&bankers did to US-the people of the U.S.&now we are a bankrupt, hollow nation-all due to hate-LuvYA

  • RECAP: IOUaBEER(you luv the Chicks)&Iadmit could be Arabic-Im not language expert&admit bombs in the towers could've been extremists(UOmeAbeer)&WE both admit Mensa&Leo would be locked up if our govt wasn't bankrupt(we buy a 6pack&drink to that).NOW we have to get Natalie to admit being a lil nice to Lubbock MIGHT help&get Lubbock to admit she was right&take back their daughter-a REAL Patriot(mouth&all)&get Country to admit dissing Chicks isn't going to help America heal-Its part of the problem

  • gppceo: You are wrong, again! I LOVE the Dixie Chicks. I was just fucking with you. Where's your sense of humor??? Goddamnit! You must be one of those sand niggers.

  • The last phrase you used is offensive: I have friends from Iran, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Morocco. I went to school with a kid from Lebanon&my best pal is married to an Israeli. They are ALL pretty sweet people. My closest V.P. is black. I'm Hispanic/Norwegian/Scottish/It­alian mutt. A guy who luvs Chicks wouldn't blast them-though if you did this is certainly the song/post/place to do it. Go ahead&act like an enlightened American and apologize to the Arab world for what you just said. I dareU.

  • RECAP: IOUaBEER(you luv the Chicks)&Iadmit could be Arabic-Im not language expert&admit bombs in the towers could've been extremists(UOmeAbeer)&WE both admit Mensa&Leo would be locked up if our govt wasn't bankrupt(we buy a 6pack&drink to that).NOW we have to get Natalie to admit being a lil nice to Lubbock MIGHT help&get Lubbock to admit she was right&take back their daughter-a REAL Patriot(mouth&all)&get Country to admit dissing Chicks isn't going to help America heal-Its part of the problem

  • A speech Nat MIGHTCONSIDER cause she's stronger,bigger&smarter than the rest: "I want to heal old wounds w/ Lubbock-my home town&w/Country Artists-I was young, upset&said rude things. W/ wisdom I now UNDERSTAND&BELIEVE Toby had every right to pen an inspirational song&Reba-every right to vote4who she wanted-I still think Bush isAcriminal&ISTILLLUVETEXAS!!&­want to help our nation heal by taking this first step." They'll tear her up but afterwards she'll have proved SHE'S bigger than the haters.

  • What exactly is this song and video about?

  • Pearl:The song about what happened to the DC after Natalie Maines made a comment in England about President Bush. Don't remember the exact quote, but something like: she was embarrassed that Bush was from her home state. Since her comment, it was like they were blacklisted and lost many fans because of her comment. See the doc film: SHUT UP AND SING and you will get the full story. Anyway in this video, it's like she is saying she's not sorry for the comment and would do the same thing again.

  • Pearl: BTW: Don't believe a word that THEREALMENSA might write against the movie:SHUT UP AND SING. After seeing the movie and going back to this video you will be stunned by it's beauty. This video is a masterpiece after taking in:SHUT UP AND SING/

  • I don,t really understand what people including yourself are talking about here besides the fact that the Dixie Chicks spoke up against the fomer president Bush,s war on Iraq,I was merely asking what was the theme/story of this particular song and music video.

  • Pearl: Possibly the theme or story of the video is simply that Natalie is permanently changed by what happened to the DCs since the comment about Bush and that she will never apologize because her pain goes to deep. Don't take my word for it just my opinion. After seeing SHUT UP AND SING one should then see this video again and make up their own minds.

  • PS M5-those beers above are for you - a Dixie Chick Lover - the Evening with the Dixie Chicks was a masterpiece - I hope they do another. On the topic of other videos, you may want to go to google and type

    YOUTUBE v=8n-nT-luFIw

    and after watching that nightmare try

    YOUTUBE v=eAaQNACwaLw

    Real eye openers.

    I have a feeling your silence is because you're checking out the Betty Ong call - thank you.

  • gppceo: Sorry didn't bother to look up any of your suggested videos. If you want to try a real eye opener look up:LOOSE CHANGE. Conspiracy theory stuff? Maybe... I did listen on the Betty Ong video, but didn't hear the dialogue you described.One thing you can be sure of:On 8/6/01 Bush had the real threat of 9/11 in his lap and he ignored it. One other thing you can be sure of:Our long term close relationship with the Saudis is why Al Quaida was born and why 9/11 happened with 15 Saudi hijackers.

  • And btw,

    I dont have a problem with the soldiers, since its their job to do it.

    Just at the idiot who was in office.

    lol @ i bet you think you elected him.

  • @Tzer4545 President Bush was a great leader!!

  • your head is obviously stuck in some some Texas mud!! What a shame you support such a warped bastard....what would he know born with a silver fuckin spoon in his mouth!!

  • @Tzer4545 President Bush was a great leader!! I dont know about Palin or Paul. George W was a great president. Do you think the boob thats in there now knows what the hell he is doing?

  • you sound like your a few bricks short of a load

  • @perthrog Really now? I guess you have seen Ground Zero close up right after it happened/ Or do you have any idea that the Iraqi extremist were raping there women and little girls on a regular basis ! You need to research things a little better and get that coke spoon out of your nose! I dont like war! President Bush was a great leader! He was faced with extraordinary circumstances while in office!! And by the way, Its New Jersey , and it sounds like your head is stuck somewhere else!

  • Except Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

  • 19fender.....Bush was hardly a great leader as evidenced from politicians from all parties running from him and his record during past elections. Great leaders don't lies to sell wars as he did to sell the Iraq war. Great leaders don't let punk terrorists scare you into acts that our country didn't sink to even when faced with the trully dire situations ww2 presented. Pick up a book and read of Bush's record...he's only good at smoozing....real work....he's a loser.

  • wittumy: And don't forget,Bush held hands and kissed a Saudi Sheik on the cheek. A great leader might have invaded Saudi Arabia after 9/11 and told the Saudis we won't leave until you put all of Al Quaida at our feet.On 9/12 that's where all the terrorists were located not in Afghanistan or Iraq. Bush a great leader, the thought of such ignorance makes me want to puke. It's because of the no bid contracts in Iraq(the real reason for the invasion-in that 3trillion dollar mistake)so many have died

  • Good point M5....it cracks me up when the right is whining about Obama bowing when Bush held hands and kissed the Saudis. It was obvious Bush had zero anti-terror plan prior to 9/11 and continued that ignorance for years. Another reason Bush invaded Iraq was that it gave him a greater platform to show our military power that what Afghanistan presented. How stupid is a president who tries to scare those who'd been warring for centuries...with a war on someone else? They've seen blood and guts.

  • witt:Your point of war in Afghanistan is a good one too. I think I was wrong about all the terrorists being in Saudi Arabia on 9/12.One can be sure that all the training of Al Quaida came from $ the Saudi royalty supplied.After all this time why is Osama bin Laden not captured? Is it because Saudi royalty would have been outraged at Bush. He could be dead in a cave somewhere too.On 9/12 Bush said the bad guys would pay. He also said bin laden dead or alive, and 6mos. later flip/flopped on it.

  • witt: A recent poll of pundits ranked Bush the second worst president America has ever had. To repeat the point, your point on Afghanistan is a good one. The people who live there, tend to win over their invaders. If we had invaded Saudi Arabia and cut off the money to Al Quaida our brave soldiers wouldn't have to be there or in Iraq. If Bush had a brain that truly tried to solve the terrorism problem, it started with Saudi Arabia. Without money of any kind what could Al Quaida do?

  • @Tzer4545 So, I guess you think Obama is the answer? LMFAO

  • Tzer: This retarded American knows that our Supreme Court selected George W. Bush in 2000. Then in 2004 in Ohio, there was a lot of funny DIEBOLD voting machines that knocked out John Kerry and help select W. again. There are plenty of Americans who recognized the W. nightmare from the beginning including Natalie Maines when she mad the infamous comment against "her" retarded leader.

  • I'm pretty sure you are both over-dressing yourself. I can add "Considering the economy" to the beginning of any conclusion and it would sound like it would make sense.

    Anyways, Whats wrong with them expressing their opinion? I think Americans are F*cking retarded for believing George bush and his retarded link from afghan to iraqys. For being a world superpower, you seem retarded.

    1. Get bombed.

    2. Invade the country.

    3. ?? ( part people dont seem to see)

    4. Get oil from another country.

  • Best song of the year--decade, I mean...

  • L3s:NAZI MOUTHPIECE: Considering the economy and the unemployment rate and people that can't work even if they wanted to: are they all moochers like me? I think you are psychotic if you think they all are. Like I said before, Mr. Nazi, if you believe we all are moochers I again wish you the fiery car crash and terrible death. That's what a true Nazi deserves and that's what you are. btw-the DIXIE CHICKS are perfect.

  • M5mebster7, ignore L3. He has been ranting on this song-page for at least 6 months, offending innumerable others. And despite his profile page describing himself as a highly intelligent man, frankly his opinions and words speak otherwise. Heck, there is no definitive proof that he is what he says he is on his profile. Let him be to stew within his own mind.

  • batt: M5 has been here as long, and he's not posted a single thing that was fact based. Sound familiar? I can understand why you would think YOU could provide guidance to someone. Why not go back to your anime' transformer passion and leave the posting of facts surrounding these disingenuous women to exist without your pathetic dreamworld opinion, eh? Now go tell mommy the bad man on your internets made you feel bad.

  • Well, I guess, there's no point arguing with the likes of you. And there is no reason to be so condescending; lets try keeping this civil.

    By the way, what is "truthology"? Is it like "truthiness"?

  • It is like truthiness, but with more vinegar. Truthiness is a "tendency toward truth", whereas, truthology is a bitch slap to ignorance with a cold hard fact. It isn't the goal of truthology grads to demean ignorance, only to encourage its end in those consumed with it. Especially those that have taken up a mantra based on pure lies. For example, many DC fanatics bought the lies of the movie SUAS without question. I post facts that deny the propaganda included in that fillm.

  • By DC fanatics, I assume you mean "liberals" and Democrats. Before we continue this discussion, tell me do you prefer George Will or Sarah Palin or Ron Paul.

  • But now, tell me what you think about this video. And if you are providing opinions, please provide facts as to why you call these women "disingenuous ".

  • L3s: NAZI MOUTHPIECE: One more thing monster, reverting back to child-like mindsets are the very thing that makes a good actor. Playing the part happens when you think like a child to get the character. Character happens when you believe others are the character in the "game" you play. I see you as a robotic Nazi and it brings out the "bipolar child like patient."As long as you persist as the Nazi, I will hate you for this belief. I care deeply about the welfare of others and you don't .

  • MOOCH:

    You are a liar.

    What have you done to "care about the welfare of others?"

    Sit on you butt drawing your disability check.

    Children want others to take care of them and not have consequences for their actions.

    Karma

  • L3s: NAZI MOUTHPIECE: What happened to NeoMaoistMooch? You are the liar, no real doctor could spend so much time on this video-site denigrating liberals and their views. I have done a lot of community theatre for nothing. My check isn't much money each month but plenty for my needs. Your right I lied I am bipolar manic phase and still want you to turn into a piece of charcoal ASAP.

  • gppceo: Your insane ramblings remind me of myself. If I didn't know better, and I don't, I'd say that you are yet another one of my accounts placed on these videos to make people think there is someone that agrees with me. My wife hates me so much because I spend all my time on the computer and won't make love to her. Do you have this problem too?

  • Leonid, will you please stop sending me messages about how you hate your wife? My soft, sweet smelling ass walls will never house your flacid old stank stick!

  • My Leonid account is getting tired. I think I'll create more accounts to make me seem intelligent. Any thoughts? I will pay $5 for each chosen name. The Dixies are releasing a double cd of new material. I can't wait!

  • i lose again. my wife hates me and my penis looks like a smashed twinkie. sumbody pleze kill me. out

  • Lying about lying.

    Quaint.

    You know the major difference between you and a child?

    The child will eventually grow up.

    You are about as good as you will ever be.

    Karma.

  • L3s: NAZI MOUTHPIECE : i am hate filled but only against monsters like you. Btw-my name is Peter Pan and I don't want to grow up. I just want to have fun with NAZI MOUTHPIECES, know any?

  • Well, I have no more time to devote to your education at the moment.

    You will have to go play with yourself, by yourself.

    See, I dont have to hate you. I believe there is a higher power, whatever you wish to call it. And I believe bad behavior attracts bad consequences. Look at your personal life. Is your home situation happy? What about your wife? Dont have one? How shocking.

    Karma.

  • If you are trying to get my angry by implying I am homosexual or that I belong to the Nazi party, you can give up.

    I have been called a lot worse by patients a lot more mentally ill than you.

    Once I realized you were a liberal I expected the comments to devolve once you were forced to support your view rationally.

    The fact that you are mentally ill is almost superfluous. You are a liberal.

    You are child-like. Who can hate a child?

    But I can label you. Idiot. Puppet. NeoMaoist

  • L3s:NAZI MOUTHPIECE: Do you hate liberals? I know you do and think your a liar if you say otherwise. I hate conservatives and know they are what's wrong with this country. Btw-I lied to you I'm not really bipolar but I play one on tv. Liberals got their way today on the Healthcare bill asshole, stick that up your ass so you can feel better Nazi monster.

  • You really are hatefilled arent you?

    I dont hate liberals. I pity them.

    To live your life in a world that doesnt match your reality. Pathetic.

    I have known for a while that a bill would be passed. I dont get annoyed at reality. As I said, it will not affect my ability to receive healthcare.

    The rest of you, are screwed.

    In 10 years when the stats on the deaths are available, you will owe me an apology. You wont give it, but the numbers will prove you are wrong.

    I told you so.

  • L3s:NAZI MOUTHPIECE: The bill move  forward for debate after Thanksgiving, it hasn't passed yet until the Senate is through and it is signed on the presidents desk.

  • This is why people like me have to deal with people like you.

    If no one stood up to your nonsense, people might actually think you know what you are talking about.

    By pointing out the FACT that you dont understand what you are saying, merely parroting what someone else has said, I prove to the rational observer that you are an idiot.

    You rely on slurs, starting with the nazi issue (you know they were socialist right?) and now bringing homosexuality into it.

    Typical liberal tactics

  • Could we improve the health of the uninsured in the US, including the illegal aliens?

    Yes.

    Will we decrease the service to the currently insured in the process?

    Absolutely.

    Does that concern the majority of medical doctors? You bet your ass.

    Again, I will not suffer because of this. Not in the slightest. I will get my MRI when needed, blood work, specialist appointments, etc. One of the perks of being a medical doctor.

    I am concerned for my patients that dont have that luxury.

  • Maoist MOOCH:

    Here is what people that actually WORK in the healthcare industry know. People die. Period. No matter what you do, how much of your time and effort you give, PEOPLE DIE. Sucks, but it is true for everyone.

    So, we do the best we can for the patients we have. On a Public Health level, you have to look at the ENTIRE population, not a subgroup, which is what you are doing.

    Puppet.

  • L3s:NAZI MOUTHPIECE: One more thing you monster: Michael Moore said it best in his movie: SICKO. I know how much you hate Moore, but it would be like a tear drop in the ocean compared to hatred of you, you lying piece of garbage.

  • btw for those without a founding in 20th century history.

    Hitler was responsible for approximately 16 Million deaths, including the concentration camps.

    Stalin, a "social progressive" aka communist is responsible for double that.

    Mao, another "social progressive" aka communist is responsible for four times that.

    All three groups are evil, imo. However, isnt it interesting, given the magnitude of the crimes, the Liberals dont mention Mao with the same hatred as Hitler?

    Wonder why?

  • L3s: Remember you Nazi freakshow mouthpiece for the insurance lobby-about one person drops dead every 12 minutes or so to make 45,000 a year. Even if your rhetoric is true(it's not) it is rendered moot. I'll take a long line to be seen by a doctor over staying home and dying. If you don't get it Nazi, you're not really a doctor are you?

  • NeoMaoist MOOCH:

    I am still waiting for you to cite your sources for your 45K deaths.

    You have records with the names of these people?

    Are they as fictional as the congressional districts reporting jobs saved? The congressional districts that didnt exist?

    Maybe these 45K deaths dont exist either.

    Maybe they are extrapolations and best guesses of liberal organizations?

    Or ... maybe they are the fevered delusions of a bi-polar in his manic phase.

    Without citing your sources, I cant tell.

  • L3s: Nazi MOUTHPIECE-I don't have to cite my sources, I want to leave you something to bitch about. I'm not a journalist and this isn't a school room. Judith Miller wrote articles about WMD in Iraq that was total BS. Citations don't authenticate things sometimes. Btw-this point is true and I know that nothing could change your mind-because that's how NAZI-MOUTHPIECES are.

  • NeoMaoist MOOCH:

    You are attempting to prove a point. Without evidence to support it, you have not point to prove, only unfounded opinion.

    If you cited your sources, I would go check them. I am positive IF the source exists, it is founded in some liberal think tank or university with ties to the current administration.

    But that is beside the point at the moment.

    I asked you for the % of deaths of insured v uninsured.

    You cant tell me. You dont understand the math.

    MOOCH

  • L3s: NAZI MOUTHPIECE-I should have wrote 45k deaths per year is one tenth of one percent of the uninsured. Crunching numbers is one of my strong suits test me asshole I dare you. I don't know the numbers off hand of deaths of insured of all those covered. Btw-asshole this is a place of opinion not journalism. I don't give a damn who believes me, especially you, I just want to express my hatred of assholes like you that aren't human.

  • NeoMaoist MOOCH:

    I did test you. I challenged you to compare the %s of deaths in the insured and uninsured populations.

    You failed, miserably. The information you need is easily available online.

    You are a typical liberal. You like to use people's misery to further your agenda. You have no interest in helping them.

    That makes you far less human than I.

    MOOCH.

  • L3s: NAZI MOUTHPIECE-You haven't tested me yet. I don't care about winning the argument with you asshole, I just want to keep reminding you that you are a monster. I am not a robot like you, I feel for the unnecessary death of the uninsured person every 12 minutes of so. You go look up the info asshole I already know it's true and don't need to beat you in an argument. Calling you a NAZI MOUTHPIECE is good enough for me. You aren't human pal...

  • NeoMaoist MOOCH:

    I did challenge you, on your math skills, as you challenged me to do.

    Now you are unable to meet that challenge.

    I did the math.

    Being called a monster by you, means nothing.

    Do you feel for every death? How about the deaths of the insured? How often do they die?

    Bet you dont know that. After all, that would weaken your argument.

    I am more human than you will ever be. You are a liberal clone, unable to reason independently of your handlers.

    Pathetic.

  • L3s:NAZI MOUTHPIECE-I didn't bother to look anything up because you suggested I do. I don't care about winning an argument with you asshole. How many times should I repeat myself? Look up the numbers for me Nazi and I will crunch the numbers and still call you a monster, so the info won't change my hatred of you Mr. NAZI MOUTHPIECE.

  • NeoMaoist MOOCH:

    You shouldnt have to look up anything.

    YOU are the one making the initial arguments regarding how much worse it is to be uninsured. To make that argument rationally, YOU WOULD HAVE TO KNOW how many die insured.

    But that implies you are rational. You are proving that you are not.

    You are a liberal mouthpiece, spouting what you have been told with no understanding of what you are saying and worse, desiring none.

    You are a puppet.

    Dance for your Liberal masters.

  • L3s:NAZI MOUTHPIECE : Conservatives walk more in lockstep than liberals do. In terms of political unity conservatives are much more the puppet then democrats. Look at you and me both Democrats and I wish you dead in a fiery car crash. Do you think my liberal master put that in my head? I think not-Nazi Mouthpiece-remember once every 12 minutes some uninsured person drops dead. You care more about this argument than that reality.

  • Maoist MOOCH:

    1 uninsured person drops dead every 12 minutes. SO FUCKING WHAT?

    Without the numbers for the insured, it means NOTHING.

    But you are incapable of understanding that.

    Let me clue you in, since your math skills SUCK.

    One person drops dead in the US every 13 SECONDS.

    That is more than enough information for you to calculate the odds risk ratio of being uninsured.

    Can you do it? Do you even know what it is?

    Doubtful. And you dont want to know.

    Puppet.

  • L3s:NAZI MOUTHPIECE: Now you sounding more like the Nazi you are. I don't have to have to win the debate or go research something you say. You just don't get it asshole-if you are really a doctor you wouldn't linger on this video-site showing what a Nazi you are, you would have compassion for those dying or those in pain. My math skills don't suck btw, you do(Only God knows what you suck). I used to be a math major and got through one semester of calculus and decided I was too lazy to continue.

  • Maoist MOOCH:

    1 semester of calculus? LOL!

    I exceeded your pathetic attempt at math education by more than 24 credit hours. And I dont pretend to be a math major.

    I have had multiple statistics courses and through differential equations. Turns out you need a lot of math for a BS in Chemistry. Had I gone the liberal arts route and a BA in Chem, I could have taken a LOT less.

    Your math sucks.

    Puppet

  • L3s: NAZI MOUTHPIECE: No one gives a damn about your education or mine you asshole. My math skills don't suck you do, and God only knows what you suck. I am a very good number cruncher, but that's still not the issue Mr. Nazi, you are. I hope your fiery car crash happens soon. Of course I hope you are alone in the care and you hit a big tree and you can't get out in time and turn into a piece of charcoal.

  • Maoist MOOCH:

    You brought up your "one semester of calculus", not me.

    You are unable to support your views rationally. Therefore you resort to hate filled slurs and veiled threats. It is typical liberal behavior when confronted with anyone that wants them to actually support their views with facts.

    Have you calculated the odds risk ratio yet? LOL! We both know you havent. You cant.

    Actors should stick to acting.

    Puppet

  • L3s:NAZI MOUTHPIECE: I can calculate any ratio if I have a numerator and a denominator. I choose not to look up the info., as a liar you immediately assume I can't because I won't. Get me the top and bottom number and I will prove you wrong Nazi soon to be charcoal.

  • Maoist MOOCH:

    IDIOT! You dont have to look up a fucking thing! LOL! I gave you every piece of information you needed to calculate it.

    But that would require you to think.

    I didnt ask you to divide 1 number by another number. I assume anyone past the 5th grade can do that. Odds risk ratios are bit more complicated that simple division.

    Of course, if you werent such a lazy fuck and had stayed in school and completed your math education, you would know that.

    Puppet.

  • L3s: NAZI MOUTHPIECE-you didn't give me the numbers and could care less if you did. Your attack on my math skills isn't the point you asshole. You dropped the f-bomb twice in your last post, what's the matter someone hasn't gone up your old-dirt road in a while? Nothing against gay people when they aren't NAZI MOUTHPIECES.

  • Maoist MOOCH:

    You were given the numbers. Anyone with "number crunching" skills like you boasted you do, would be able to calculate the numbers in less than a minute.

    I used the word "FUCK" for emphasis, since you apparently dont pay much attention.

    In case you forgot, YOU are the one that insisted we "focus on the 45,000 deaths".

    I complied with your wish. I have focused on it, even though you didnt cite your source.

    You are clueless what the numbers mean.

    Just a puppet.

  • It will take more than a decade for the effects of the new Law to become fully manifest.

    It will take another decade before adequate data can be obtained to quantify accurately the deaths caused by rationing and long lines.

    That is 20 years at least before we get enough data to prove what I am saying now. This Law is BAD legislation.

    You will have to live with it, not I. Being a medical doctor, I have instant access to physician friends and tests.

    The rest of you are screwed.

  • The doctors in the last post were imposing their morals on their patient population.

    Single women wanting a Pap smear are admitting sexual activity, something these doctors apparently find morally objectionable.

    In the US, if you find you and your doctor have radically different views regarding your health, you change doctors. That option is severely limited for many Canadians, due to the shortage of physicians.

    The US doctor shortage will become critical if this new law is passed.

  • In Feb 2008 edition of RH Reality Check:

    (this is an online ProChoice reproductive health magazine)

    Women in New Brunswick Canada are being denied access to basic services by medical doctors under the Conscience Clause. Specifically, Some women are being denied Pap Smears, a screening test for cervical cancer.

    Why dont the women go to another doctor? HUGE doctor SHORTAGES and LONG LINES (talking YEARS) to see a doctor for the first time.

    In the US today, this would never happen.

  • I'm coming back.

  • RSB:

    You were gone?

  • MOOCH:

    You like that number, dont you? 45,000.

    Interesting

    Now how many deaths are going to be attributed to people unable to get to see the doctor due to long lines when this crap becomes law? Or due to "cost saving" guidelines, like no mammogram until 50?

    Fewer doctors and more patients. Only an idiot would need it spelled out. But just for you

    L O N G L I N E S

    Cost containment will lead inevitably to

    R A T I O N I N G

    Long lines and rationing will not save more lives.

  • L3s: I don't like the number 45,000 dead per year with our status quo system. These people don't even stand in lines, they don't get seen and die at home. The denials of coverage are the real death panels already. You are an evil Nazi who speaks for the insurance companies and their premiums that will go even higher if not stopped. Btw- asshole "mama" was in my dictionary and momma wasn't but I know you can spell it either way. If 45,000 dead per year doesn't bother you, it should you monster.

  • MOOCH:

    You need a better dictionary.

    And you cant have it both ways. If I am a 'monster' as you say, then the deaths you describe but cant cite references for should not bother me at all.

    Typical liberal. Wanting to sit on both sides of the fence, when it is convenient.

    You worry about the 45K you say die every year, but not a single word in defense of the MILLIONS killed by Roe v Wade.

    Internal consistency is not your strong point.

    NeoMaoist MOOCH

  • L3s: Nazi mouthpiece-I don't need a better dictionary I knew the other spelling but was messing with you head. Go ahead and obfuscate with Roe V. Wade. I personally believe that a baby is not alive at the point of conception and happens much later in the womb. Abortion after this point is murder not before. My turn to obfuscate-your right let all the babies live so when they turn 18 we can send them to fight in an illegal war like Iraq. Stay on point asshole, one person dead per 12 minutes.

  • NeoMaoist MOOCH

    Alright, asshole. Let's stay on point.

    What percentage of the uninsured is that 45K?

    What percentage of the insured die per year?

    THE DIFFERENCE between the percentages is all you can lay at the door step of being uninsured. Insured people die too, but you are totaling ignoring that so you can pretend to bigger numbers of deaths.

    Speaking of, even that argument is obfuscation until you CITE YOUR SOURCES.

    Without sources, it is just the opinion of bipolar mania.

  • L3s:NAZI-MOUTHPIECE-Granted the 45k is only about one tenth of of one percent, it's still a dead person every 12minutes or so. These are real people not numbers asshole. Even if the numbers favor your argument, they don't favor the evil status quo system we have through insurance companies who make more money by purposely letting people die through lack of coverage.

  • NeoMaoist MOOCH:

    Really? Cite your sources. Until you do, they are not real people. They are nothing more than the ramblings of a bipolar manic.

    Did you run the numbers? Compare the number of deaths of insured v uninsured?

    You have no grasp of the concept of public health because you cant understand the logistics.

    "Feelings" are all well and good, but eventually someone has to actually do the work.

    Are you going to? LOL! Nope. You cant even do the math.

  • MOOCH:

    You will have to go play with yourself now.

    I have better things to do than argue with an admitted bi-polar in manic phase.

    If you find yourself running down the road naked, flag down a car and ask to be taken to the nearest ER, where your FREE GOVERNMENT HEALTHCARE will take care of you.

    MOOCH

  • L3s: A doctor that can't even spell mama correctly, wow! Btw-my math was corrected 45,000 deaths annually means a death every 12 minutes or so. Your a lying Nazi freakshow, that couldn't really be a doctor could you? Btw- I would only have a manic episode if I met you face to face you freak.

  • MOOCH:

    An actor that cant even use the dictionary. Oh wait, we dont expect actors to be intelligent. Never mind.

    Let me help you with that, since you cant seem to find it on your own.

    Spelling of the word accepted by the American Heritage Dictionary, 4th ed

    Mama, mamma, momma.

    Examples of Momma you should have encountered:

    "Throw Momma from the Train"

    "Big Momma's House" (pts 1 & 2)

    You have heard of these I am sure.

    And as usual, you are a liar.

  • I also say you have no valid point.

    If you cant support the 45K deaths per annum with citations, then it is most probable you made it up. Just like your "a death every 90 seconds" you made up earlier.

    Without citation, it is your opinion only. The opinion of an admitted mental health patient with diagnosed bi-polar disorder.

    That opinion is worth... nothing.

  • MOOCH:

    As to ego? Yours surpasses mine by enormous measure.

    I have been instrumental in saving many lives in my life. Yet I do not think I am "owed" anything.

    You perform a few pieces at community theater and think that entitles you to a life time of payment from the public coffers.

    EGO? You have an enormous one.

  • Free money, free medications, free healthcare.

    You have such a terrible situation. I am surprised you dont say "to hell with it" and move to the phillipines.

    I am sure they would welcome an artist of your caliber with open arms.

  • L3s: They would probably kill you in the Phillipines, doctor.

  • MOOCH:

    Maybe they would. But I dont plan to live there, so it is not an issue, now is it?

    LOL!

    BTW, you will be unable to get off on insanity should you harm me. Your comments here indicate premeditation. If you come find me, that is also premeditation.

    A jury would sentence you in a heartbeat.

  • L3s: Hunting people down is not in my style, asshole. I still don't think you are a doctor, you don't even play one on tv, you play one on a webpage-how pathetic.!

  • MOOCH:

    Your opinion does not affect my reality.

    Think what you wish.

  • L3s: My reality...?Spoken like a true egotist, there is only one reality that applies to us all. Your opinion is diametrically opposed to the masses on Earth.

  • MOOCH:

    At one time the masses thought the Earth was flat. There were those that believed the Earth was spherical.

    It is an emotional appeal and is irrelevant.

    I was, am and will always be an Objectivist.

    You show me a way to make this new healthcare make sense, fiscally. Show me how it provides better care to more people. Show me it will work. And I will support it.

    I only need 1 word to prove the government incapable of running healthcare.

    Medicare.

  • L3s: Don't bring Ayn Rand in to this please...If we had a single payer system that made sure all doctors got paid, medicare wouldn't be such a four letter word to doctors. You say you only need one word to prove your point and I go back to the fact that 45,000 people a year because of no coverage. Show a little empathy doctor and stop your false political take on issue. You have shown empathy on the abortion issue, how about empathy for people outside the womb?

  • MOOCH:

    I again say, you have not made your point. You have failed to cite your sources for these numbers.

    Are they as solid as the number of uninsured? That number has changed by MILLIONS during the debate.

    So, what are your sources?

  • L3s: My source is your mama, what do you say to that? Nazi asshole....

  • MOOCH:

    You probably meant your momma.

    She said you would say that.

    MOOCH

  • L3s: I meant mama, that's how you spell it doctor.

  • MOOCH:

    No, that is how YOU spell it.

    Your posts are becoming more tangential.

    Not a good sign for you.

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  • W/C:

    I answered you. No silence. Apparently you cant read. Not my issue. Probably has to do with a substandard education.

    MOOCH lost any sympathy when he decided I should die in a flaming car crash. I dont have sympathy for those that wish me harm.

  • I cited my source (one anyway) for my comment regarding the NEW recommendation by the FEDERAL TASK FORCE, which was released MONDAY of this week.

    MOOCH says it is from the Clinton era.

    I cited my source.  He didnt. I proved my point. He failed to. Why? He is unable to.

  • Oh? Haha , don't cry KID. That's what you are ^^

  • AA:

    Cry? LOL! Why? You havent said anything of substance.

  • Now, that I have read and followed the conversation, I finally understand that the real nutcase is Leonid3s! It's sad to see someone who obviously have no friends and a place in this world. Get used to being hated Leo because you have desperately failed to show your point. Rather than trying to sound intellectually superior, you simply sound like a jack ass trying to ruin comments. Long live the DC.

  • AA:

    I can live with being hated by idiots.

    Have a nice day.

  • This is youtube not debate sessions. If you guys want to debate about some irrelevant shit do it elsewhere.

  • M:

    So easy for you to sit back and say "He is not a real doctor because he doesnt think the way I want him to think".

    There are a lot of conservative doctors.

    And I have said clearly, I am NOT AGAINST HEALTHCARE REFORM.

    I am AGAINST BAD HEALTHCARE REFORM!

    You want something for nothing. You want others to pay for it.

    YOU DONT GIVE A DAMN about the people that will have worse healthcare because of this bill or the hardships these taxes will impose.

    Hypocrite

  • i think your too ignorant to be a doctor

    but just my opinion.... i wouldn't want you treating me..

  • M:

    But all this is smoke and mirrors. It has nothing to do with why you hate me and I do believe you hate me. I threaten your comfortable view of how the world works.

    I refuse to give you the sanction of the victim. I refuse to take responsibility for the mistakes and outcomes of your life. I force you to recognize YOU are ultimately responsible for your life.

    As a moocher, you hate me for not being your victim.

    TOUGH

  • L3s: Call me whatever you want to asshole, but the facts remain:The recommendation for mammograms for women over 50 first came out during the Clinton administration and is presently being used as a wedge issue now to scare people with this lie that will not be put into place by doctors. Your description of Obamacare costing lives is already happening from Status Quo healthcare. You have things totally backwards. In status quo in the U.S. 45,000 die per year because of no coverage, you idiot.

  • M:

    I provided proof the issue is NEW.

    You have so far presented nothing but your word.

    Up your credibility. Cite your sources.

    45,000 dead per year because of lack of coverage?

    Again, cite your sources.

    Mooch.

  • L3s: I am not a journalist asshole, I don't need to cite my sources for you. It is happening:45,000 per year.

  • M:

    Everyone should be aware you are making shit up.

    I cited my sources. Why? Because I dont expect people to take my word for it. I expect them to research the issue on their own. If they look at my cited references, they will see this recommendations was made THIS WEEK, not in the Clinton era.

    You are a lying weasel.

  • L3s: Ok, call me a lying weasel and I'll call you a Nazi, anything you say monster. The fact remains:staus quo healthcare means 45,000 people dying with no coverage and you call yourself a doctor?

  • MOOCH:

    Your opinion on healthcare is not equivalent to mine. You are an actor. You are a liar by profession.

    I cited my sources. You refuse to.

    You are a liar.

    If you get off your lazy ass and worked in the healthcare profession, you would at least have a clue. As it is, you know less than nothing.

    MOOCH

  • L3s: You're not really a doctor are you? A real doctor would be concerned about a dead person every 12 minutes or so. Especially when it could have been prevented in a country with a single-payer healthcare system. I do hate you for being such a conservative. Conservatives believe that one should never get sick and if they do, one should die quickly. I stole that one from a Congressman from Florida named Grayson. L3s: people like you turn my stomach because you can't see other peoples pain.

  • MOOCH:

    The system being advocated will result in worse health care delivery to 87% of the US citizens, those currently with healthcare. The proposed plan will extend healthcare to ONLY 5% and harm 87% to accomplish this.

    Unlike you, asswipe, doctors deal with death daily.

    AND again, if you "feel their pain" GET OFF YOUR ASS AND INTO THE HOSPITAL!

    But, no, that would require work on your part. And you are just a ...

    MOOCH

  • L3s: Call me anything you want Nazi-monster, the current system of healthcare will perpetuate a dead body every because of no coverage every 12 minutes or so. As to me being a nurse, I'm bipolar,manic phase, and probably couldn't hold a job due to my total and permanent disability. You are a monster and I hope you die a slow and painful death. Sorry, that was a manic phase kicking up at you.

  • MOOCH

    Cite your sources for this death toll.

    You cant.

    I dont care what your hopes for me are. You will continue to sit on your fat ass and complain not matter what is done for you. You are on disability. You get a check every month from the government for DOING NOTHING.

    And you still complain.

    MOOCH

  • L3s: I don't think of myself as bipolar-manic-phase and on total and permanent disability. I have had a few occasions where I exploded on people face to face. Never done jail-time, but something tells me if I met you face to face, something really bad would happen. The dark side of manic episodes might make me go off on a person like you. Maybe, a good lawyer could keep me out of jail. Not in America, where we have the biggest per capita population of jail inmates. I am not a mooch,just hate you

  • MOOCH

    Yes, something bad would happen. You would attack me and one of us would die.

    You are a MOOCH

    BY DEFINITION

    You have total disability, receive a check monthly, ALREADY HAVE FREE HEALTH INSURANCE.

    Who do you think pays for that check or your Medicaid? It aint Obama. It is the avg working citizens of this country. They pay for you in taxes every day.

    You provide them with? Nothing.

    You are, by definition, a MOOCH

  • L3s: Some things are worth dying for, killing a Nazi may be an example. Anyway, I am an award-winning stage actor who played Ralph Waldo Emerson and Shakespeare's Caliban, so I gave back to my community through my performances as those characters. I could give my first and last name so you could do a google search and maybe I will if you convince me enough. A mooch label doesn't apply to a guy who stuns the audience now and then, even if it is at the community level only.

  • MOOCH:

    Really? How many performances? How much have you sucked off the public teat? How much does that mean we paid you hourly for those performances?

    I refuse to give my name, now that you have made a threat against me. Ethically I could not ask for yours. Nor would I likely believe you anyway. You could say you were Tom Cruise and there would be no way to prove you lied.

    But you are a MOOCH. And you have not contributed as nearly as much as you have taken.

  • L3s: I didn't ask for my condition, it serves me well on stage but not so well off. Communicating with you assures me that some things are worth dying for. Empathetically speaking you are a monster because of your lack of concern for others. If I had my choice, I would act 6 days a week for the rest of my life, I love it that much. Could you do 12hour days 6 days a week and still love it? I could, because I love acting that much and am good at it.I think you hate yourself as a doctor however.