Senator Kennedy Stops Global Warming Solutions!

[Draco1dormiens]

Meh, sounds like more of my money going to a useless gov project. Government shouldn't be involved in anything like this.

[leycyp]

@MrDustock Give me a few days to respond my computer is crashing...There are alot of reasons...I''ll fill you in.

[whoisthisguy724]

LOL Whac-a-Mill!!!

[leycyp]

Green peace is wrong on this one.

[EvilSlyGuy]

Kennedy hates oil and Bush but then refuses a clean energy project because of his poor "view", what a hypocrite! Build that damn Wind Farm now!

[lisalumi]

Check out the Wompanoag (sp?) Indians. The are claiming Nantucket Sound. They need an unobstructed view of the sunrise from Martha's Vineyard for a morning ritual. Why are we hearing about this at this late date? The C. Wind debate has been going on for years. What's up?

[BOBOBO255]

I support greenpeace on most everything but this. If you do your research, you'll see that tens of thousands of jobs will be destroyed.

[GodOfDetailing]

Ah yes, Ted Kennedy, the brilliant Masshole Senator who did not want those offensive wind turbines cluttering up "his" view off of Martha's Vineyard.  He probably won't need to worry too much about that now.

But I am sure he's driving the devil mad by repeatedly asking him to grant amnesty to illegal immigrants!

[showjumper57]

More people have died in Ted Kennedy's than in all the nuclear power plants in America.

[huntinforit]

Teddy will never need oil for heat again.hehe PS bet he wishs for some wind now.

[Dujeje1]

@ huntinforit; despicable, this is tasteless even as a funny.

[xj2yzz]

he wishes for some water hes burning in hell.

[john51880]

Take a lesson from Teddy! Smile and be as partisan and two faced as possible! Public service to Teddy was a punch line. The voters in his view served the goverment.

[xj2yzz]

He was a COMMUNIST.

[lisalumi]

O.K. But what is your position on Windfarms :)

[RAS4915]

All that hot air Teddy has in 5 minutes could power a city for a week. He is the poster child for term limits in the house and senate.

[nosferotica1]

Only after FDR did we establish term limits on a presidency, and I guess it was reminding people too much of some sort of monarchy or something. But what should it matter as long as people keep electing him?

Senators and representatives of course hold no sort of prestige a president does, therefor term limits we don't concern ourselves with

[hitnruni95]

Now RF Kennedy Jr. is slated to be the new head of the EPA. Thank God that dastardly oilman Bush is on his way out so we can get some real energy solu....oh wait.

[nagee76]

LOL !! Right on ! RFK Jr loves Hugo Chavez so much that he might ask him him to allow CITGO offer "special" discounts on oil prices... yeah, this is definitely the guy who needs to head the EPA.

[DefLepRox2]

Wouldn't it have been funny if a hand came out of that water and pulled him under??? (Mary Jo exacts her revenge) Ha Ha ha

[MeritisDE]

The Kennedy's hand pennies to the working class and demand respect. Ha!

He and RFK jr. are full of it. They are opposed to any solutions to rid us of oil.

I am usually a Democratic supporter, but the far left had taken the party over.

We need alternative energy now!

[annademo]

Ted the blonde-killing gasbag is a major hypocrit. But then, he's a liberal. Why am I not surprised?

[nosferotica1]

And Ensign and Sanford are...

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Paragons?

[SierraM363]

I don't know why people are blaming Kennedy on this. Who cares if this will reduce our dependence on foreign oil and curb global warming? What really matters is the Senator's property values.

[sindbad7cs]

Hey Charlie, your assumption is that I beleive in global warming--I do actually, it's called the SUN--so I'm not concerned with CO2 emissions. And if you were concerned with CO2 emissions, you'd stop breathing, driving any gas-powered vehicle whatsoever, and never use anything produced that emitted CO2. Is that the lifestyle you lead? No, you're on a PC that uses electricity that was most likely produced through CO2 emitting sources. So shove some CO2 up your hypocritcal anus. : )

[se7en00110111]

As a student studying art history, I can't see why some people think wind-mills look ugly. I live in Santa Barbara and I think the things would look rather pretty in the distance.

[charliep3]

Industrial wind power is a fraud, a fake solution, easy to support if you don't care about wasted taxpayer money and you don't have to live next to them.  Conservation is a better investment but doesn't provide politicians with good photo opportunities or such generous campaign contributions from grateful wind investors. The only thing green about this is the money a few people are making.

[sindbad7cs]

Conserving energy does not produce energy. Wind farms generate energy from a sustained source. Generating NEW energy and conserving EXISTING enery are not the same.

[charliep3]

I found an engineer who pointed out that making concrete produces a lot of CO2 and the foundation of one windmill takes so much carbon to create the windmill producing a typical 30% of name plate capacity would need to produce electricity for 20 years before it saved the carbon needed just for it's foundation

[dubitandum]

FACT: During its life time a wind turbine delivers 80 times more energy than is used in its production, maintenance and scrapping. (Look it up.)

And compare that, based on a lifetime output of electricity with zero emissions, to the aggregate carbon footprint of ANY other power generation system. Any one. Even solar.

Wind power pretty much rules.

[charliep3]

Wind turbines are "green" as in what's in your wallet. Without massive taxpayer subsidies there wouldn't be ANY industrial wind turbines. The utility companies will end up running more gas turbines to balance yet another load variable. Rate payers will pay more for electricity. I haven't seen a complete accounting of how much carbon is emitted to construct and operate wind turbines. Isn't this supposed to be about global warming? There are lot's of ways to jack up the price of something.

[dubitandum]

It's fairly obvious that even IF it took large amounts of CO2 to manufacture turbines (it doesn't, by the way) , when it comes to power generation they're still a net gain—they can eventually offset it, fossil fuels NEVER can because they keep creating CO2 emissions, just a matter of operation. Wind has (duh) ZERO carbon emissions. Find me a coal, gas or oil plant that can say that.

[dubitandum]

Yep, the wind industry is subsidized, but not as much as other power industries: biggest subsidies go to coal, oil, nuclear & natural gas fuels generation.

The National Commission on Energy Policy found a low-end estimate for federal energy subsidies in 2003 to be $37 billion to $64 billion. Total wind energy subsidy payments that year are estimated at $155 million...well under one percent of the federal energy subsidy total, even adjusted for the relatively smaller number of wind projects.

[dubitandum]

More to the point, fossil fuel energy generation has external costs that all Americans pay such as health care costs (everything from asthma to cancer, according to NIH), pollution costs, securing petroleum in unstable areas of the world, and disposal costs for nuke.

Speaking of nukes, anyone see the estimated price tag from Progress Energy on the reactor planned in Fla? $17 BILLION dollars. (Not a typo.) For two 1100WM reactors. All to be passed on to rate payers. Now THAT'S a screw job.

[charliep3]

If the cost of the planned capacity turned out to be too expensive then perhaps the project won't get built. May be the estimate is inflated. The tax subsidies for industrial wind are huge compared to the electricity produced. Wind turbines don't replace any conventional generating capacity. All the same coal and nuclear plants get built anyway because once in a while the wind just isn't blowing. That's yet another problem with wind power. It's a fake, feel good solution.

[dubitandum]

>It's a fake, feel good solution.

That might come as a surprise to Denmark, where they're getting close to 20% of all their electricity from wind—and building more capacity all the time. I met w/ gov't people at EWEA.)

All over Europe, utility scale wind is becoming a huge part of the grid. As of at January 2008, Spain has an installed capacity of 15,515 MW of wind power. The UK, Germany, it goes on and on.)

I mean, here Maui gets 10% of electricity from wind. Fake solution, I think not.

[nosferotica1]

You may or may not know this, but wind is always blowing. It's a matter of height.

It's not a fake, feel good solution. It's just a matter of there's very little ways to regulate it. You can't regulate production, and all the money is really in just building, selling, and maintaining the turbines. After that, it's all up to the wind.

There's no money in green energy. That's why they don't go forward on these things, not because it's a fake solution. It's a very real, unprofitable one.

[dubitandum]

"Manufacturing wind turbines & building wind plants generate only minimal amounts of CO2 emissions. One university study that examined the issue (White & Kulsinski, 1998) found that when these emissions are analyzed on a life-cycle basis, wind energy's CO2 emissions are about 1% of those from coal, or 2% of those from natural gas per unit of electricity generated. Ie, using wind instead of coal reduces CO2 emissions by 99%; using wind instead of gas reduces CO2 emissions by 98%." [U.S. DOE]

[patswickedpissah]

Windpower is not a fraud but it's not a panecea either. Those still hazy days of summah as they say on the Cape generate no energy. Build more nukes like China plans to do.

[tessderek]

I think you should look at some reasearch obout the effects on sea life, not worry about the view.

[JonThm]

'Global Warming' is nuclear ficiton, stooge!

[2289567]

way to go Ted, renewables suck

[tribalscribal]

Cape Wind sucks. Like we always say: it's the right project in the WRONG place! It's not just Kennedy and wealthy landowners who oppose it either. Don't let corporado enviros fool you with their NIMBY tactics. Lots of workingclass people oppose Cape Wind's siting, it would turn beautiful Nantucket Sound into an industrial sacrifice zone. Yes, support windpower but don't site it in f'ing paradise!......hey, how about windmills on the edge of the Grand Canyon!

[Alwayzsmilin]

Funny, you wouldn't even be able to see the turbines from the shore... Look up the wind farm in Horns Rev Denmark. 80 wind turbines miles out. "hey, how about windmills on the edge of the Grand Canyon!" is this a statement or a question? Again, these turbines won't be situated on the "edge"

[patswickedpissah]

Blatant exageration by another NIMBY. I own oceanfront property on the sightlines to the proposed site. Depending from where you look, the windmills might look about as large as the moon. Summer haze makes the test spire NOT visible most days.

[Northgrant]

Just have kennedy drink some alcohol (shouldn't be hard) then tell him to let it rip. He has his view and there is wind power.

[JonThm]

Global Warming is not real, but nuclear power kills!

[capevideo]

They have all the cape wind they need coming from this retard killers mouth.

[slickvguy]

It's not just Kennedy. It's *ALL* wealthy liberals.

"Do as I say, not as I do".

When they give up their mansions, limos, and private planes - that's the day I'll give a rat's ass about MY energy consumption.

[nerevarine69]

Typical Republican... Why are Republicans so anti-environment. Kennedy should be take for a Mary Jo Kopechne ride.

[heyitsbecker]

ted kennedy is a democrat.

[nerevarine69]

haha. gotcha.

[YouT00ber]

I'm not usually into Greenpeace, but you gotta give them credit on this effort. Good luck!

[spete54]

Kennedy has ALWAYS been a hypocrite. I am surprised that people from Mass. have not seen that he is just a shameless panderer. As long as his precious elite, effete rich life is not affected, that is.

[kaiserzosa]

Ted knows there is not enough wind power there. He sure didnt much air under him when he went off that pier!!!

[simplexm5]

Awesome ad.  It's so sad that the Kennedys are tarnishing their good environmental legacy with this hypocritical response to the Cape Wind project. Maybe when the water from sea level rise hits their front porch, then they will realize that reducing CO2, at some small cost to their viewshed would have been worth it.

[chazzorob]

I can't stand hypocrites like Ted Kennedy. If George Bush wanted to stop the building of environmentally safe power stations near his home it would be all over the news...everyone should be a part of the solution, even rich people.

[delaneypresto1974]

Evryone should read the new book on Cape Wind.

[Nantucketer]

Cute... yet RETARDED!

Don't build them in the water and everybody, including Ted Kennedy, would probably support it. This is evident by the citizens of Nantucket (myslef included) who are against Cape Wind and are fully supporting local efforts to develop wind energy ON Nantucket Island... yes, even in view from our own porch. I am a "YIMBY" - Yes, In My Back Yard!!! Thanks, and keep on fighting against Cape Wind.

[greyflcn]

--Don't build them in the water and everybody, including Ted Kennedy, would probably support it. --

Uhm, that doesn't make any sense.

If they can't stand the mere sight of them, then why would they be any better if they were on land closer by?

[Nantucketer]

Nobody said they "can't stand the mere sight of them." I think they're coolest looking skyscraper sized industrial machinery yet. There are a lot more environmental threats in placing Wind Turbines in water than on land. I like wind power, and want it, but not in the location where the WORLD'S LARGEST OFFSHORE WIND POWER PLANT "Cape Wind" is proposed. People interested in offshore wind power should read up on the harmful affects of anthropogenic noise and electromagnetic fields on marine life.

[greyflcn]

1. I've never seen any report that says bad things about EMF and marine life.

2. The ocean is a noisy place, I hardly see how this would make any difference.