Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. (Isaiah 5.20)
um....im gonna say...god makes mistakes and doesn't know how to correct them which makes it seem evil to us cuz we don't understand...and instead of dealing with the problems of the world, god does nothing and tries to put fear in people making them no go against him to question his methods....kinda like a mad scientist and we're all lil frankensteins...lol just a thought...what do u think???
God does no evil. You are mixing God with evil. Satan is evil and hates God. Why do you assume God does evil? The Creator does create life and take life. Who are we to ask the maker? Does the clay pot ask the Pot maker? God has the right to do as He pleases because He is God and you are a person.
@flightkiller09 Are you sure there is no satan? Satan is the most under estimated being and the most over estimated being that was created by God. Those who are lost and under his control under estimate his cleverness. And those who are aware of him sometimes over estimate him. There is a spiritual battle going on in this world that is unseen to humans. God wants to save you and Satan and his demons don't want you saved. Brother, please make sure you are correct in your assement of satan.
Yes it is in the books of GOD that HIS punishment is severe, so He shows what HE says.BUT HE is indeed merciful too. He doesnt punishes us soon but HE rewards us every minute of the day.
God could authority people being burned alive...(What's that's? He did? oh ummm[Lev 21:9].) He could approve of slavery...(He does[Exod 21]?)How about he could approve of human sacrifice(Yeah...he did that..sacrificed himself to HIMSELF[Judges 11]). Screw it!
Oh my, I don't think I've seen a funnier bunch of nonsensical ridiculous attempts at rationalization than I have in these comments, like, ever. You people must all be trolls. There is no way that these are serious answers. How could you possibly look yourself in the mirror and say, it's OK for my god to punish perfectly good, decent people for eternity because he disagrees with their choice of religion. Pure crazy talk. Grow up people.
@voldmerot So slaughtering children isn't immoral? Committing genocide isn't immoral? The only way you could call the abrahamic god anything but immoral is if you just assume no rules apply to him, his own or any objective or logical based ones.
@voldmerot Once something is given, to take it back is considered steeling in virtually every society. And he gives life? Well, that's like saying life is a gift, and a gift with strings attached is no gift at all.
@humanistheart We and our ancestors before us have been sinning against God for millennia. The wages of sin is death. That is why we all die today. Accusing God of stealing is a sin, my friend, albeit a slightly absurd/humorous one. I advise you to repent of you sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Receive the free gift of everlasting life and be assured of your salvation from hell. Spread the Word.
@voldmerot No, we die from cellular decay and other natural process', no gods involved. Again, a gift with strings attached is no gift, and taking something once given is theft.
@voldmerot To live in this context is a phrase for getting out and enjoying life. To be alive means only that. Even coma victims are technically alive.
Good question. As shown again and again in the Pentateuch, god cannot do anything evil, since he is god and he just "knows better." Just like Kim Jong-Il, Stalin, or any other dictator whose followers are deluded sheep. Just saying.
god is good no evil he teach us to go in the wright direction , and with the ebola virus people just use their free will to fuck other people's life god also give us the hammers to build houses and you can choose to use your free will to kill somebody with the hammer so you can choose good or evil now is god's fault for giving us the hammer to kill other person we use the gift that god give us to us our free will and kill some one, people dont understand thats why he brought the plagues egipt
Real talk nigga your stupid one cuz you are followin satan and also by not believin in god one question for your dumbass :) do you believe you have a brain? Yes but have you ever seen it NO and everythin is for a purpose but when your in tha pits of hell that is if you stay like this then i want to see another video of you doubting god :) love sosouth210 you hoe ass nigga
@sosouth210 Actually, I have seen my brain. Now feel free to answer the question. What action(s) would you consider immoral or evil if committed by God?
@azsuperman01 the bible doesn't specify god as being a solely one thing. god created everything. god is merciful and good and not necessarily evil but he punishes those who screw up bad. sort of like how if you hav ea child that misbehaves you spank them, doesn't mean you don't love them but you gotta punish them.
@sosouth210 well basicaly we know from experience that without a brain the human body cant function so thats how you know we have one. and humans CAN function without god so your question is pretty flawed i'd say also i dont like how cristians (possibly such as urself) go round persecutiong other religions like yours is the RIGHT ONE! how do u know that? all religions teach that so.. yea i too believe in god so u cant go all religious on me. theese questions mean the bible is shit not god yea?
2. When God sends someone to hell, he's doing good.
3. You're sinning against your God; albeit the one that gives you the very breath you use to blaspheme him. Repent and trust in Jesus, lest you likewise prove God's goodness on sinners who transgress his laws.
1.You are assuming that God made evil. 2. everything God made was good before satan fell. 3. Satan created the first sin, by not telling the truth. 4. That makes him king of lies( and he's very good at it ) . After that everything changed. 5. So if you want to blame someone for Death in the world, blame satan.
Its sin that plagues the world this is the evil at its purest form. Just think of all the sin in this World and then you will realize that every generation gets worse and evil Intensifies! Satan is the effect of whats going on all around the globe and Man listens to him instead of Obeying God. God allows these things to happen because he knows there will be an end and its coming for Satan who continues to harass Gods creation, but the world today comes together only when disaster strikes sad.
And God explained that he created all these things. So nobody should accuse God. Nobody should say that God is not fair. Instead, we must respect God. And we must be humble.
Then Job was sorry that he said the wrong things about God. And Job’s friends were sorry too. They asked Job to pray for them. And God forgave them all (Job chapter 42).
After Job prayed for his friends, God made Job successful again (Job 42:12-17).
Then a storm approached the men. And the men heard God’s voice (Job chapter 38 to chapter 41).
God reminded the men that he is very great. He told them about the world, the stars and the sea (Job chapter 38). He described many strange animals (Job chapter 39 to chapter 41).
God was kind to Job, even when Job was suffering. God taught Job many things. Job learned that death is not the end of everything (Job 19:25-27). Job discovered that God would rescue him (Job 14:13-17). And Job knew that God is wonderful (Job 26:5-14).
Then a man called Elihu spoke. Elihu was wiser than Job’s other friends were. Elihu told Job not to accuse God. And Elihu was angry that the other friends had been cruel to Job (Job 32:2-3).
@wasqe324 "God was kind to Job, even when Job was suffering."
What are you basing that on? It's rather insignificant to tell tales of animals and call it being kind while your killing his family, crops, livestock and so on.
Job argued with them. He explained that he was innocent (Job 31:1-40). Job thought that God should help him. But Job was still suffering. So Job supposed that God was unfair (Job 23:13-17). But this idea was wrong. Nobody should accuse God. God is always fair (Job 34:10-12).
Job’s friends tried to help Job. But their advice was wrong. They did not think that God would allow an innocent person to suffer. So they thought that Job was guilty. They guessed that Job had done many wicked things (Job 22:4-11).
And anyone who believes in God’s Son has eternal life. Anyone who doesn’t obey the Son will never experience eternal life but remains under God’s angry judgment.John 3:36, Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.John 3:18
These posts are really good, in my personal opinion. That is just it, good and evil are relative to whom is observing the act in question. If "God" is real, then God is both good and evil. God created us and gave us free will or the "gift" of choice. Animals choose. A lion, snake or bird will choose its prey. We will choose our actions. God must first create the prey and create our choices. He created good and evil. Lucifer was Gods creation. So any act God does is both good and evil.
Hitler is no less evil or good then anyone else. Just becse he did what he did doesn't make him any less good or bad then any other. It's in our hears which condem us. Evil to God. Well..allowing the just to burn in hell
All things are created by God are good in God's eyes. Who are we to think we are above anything God does or creates? Humans are so arrogant.
A virus is a living thing, it does what it does to live. It doesn't do what it does out of malice. It just is.Same with cancer, TB, Typhoid, AiDS, H1N1, Mosquitoes, Spiders, Wasps (ugh), Poison Ivy, Bears, Tigers, Sharks...etc. All the things WE deem bad just are what they are. God does no evil. That's not God's thing. We just see what's bad to us as bad.
@etonks Yoiu know what that's called? natural selection. the natural selection of who lives and who dies, who is bigger or badder than another living thing.
@concretecubes Yup! "We" Humans are arrogant enough to think we are above nature of any kind. Just because we can mess with nature and screw up the World doesn't mean we are above it, on the contrary, we act like a virus.
And who is to say God didn't set things in motion that way? We won't really know that until we die.
@etonks lol, i don't want this to develop into a argument, i just wanted to put that out there :P i learnt alot of things in my life, and one of those s that you don't argue over religion, nobody every wins or loses :P
@concretecubes No Argument here. I'm agreeing with you. It's a difficult thing to argue over because no one, in their right mind, knows 100% if they are right until they die. Well, and then when you find out, you can't tell anyone! :D
@etonks what? that's like drowning a dog and saying "no, dont worry, what i did wasn't bad because the water was just doing its job". if god controls everything then hes also responsible for every ounce of pain anyone's ever felt. things like the Holocaust and massive floods would be completely controlled by him. if Hitler is evil then why isn't god?
@renegadeskinninja It would be YOU who killed the dog. If he fell into a river, he could drown.That doesn't make the river evil. I NEVER said God controls everything. God set the World, Universe & everything into motion. Living things do what they need to do to live.That's life. Sometimes it sucks. Evil defines good & vise versa. Hitler was evil, but so was not doing anything about him earlier. God gave us free will. Evil or Good is a choice. No free will, no choice. Your choice, not God's.
@renegadeskinninja Yes, God is all powerful , all knowing, all things & everything. Hmm, I see your point! Yet God made us and gave us free will. God set the Universe in motion & all things do as they are supposed do. Stars go Nova,the plates shift & we have earthquakes. The air heats up & we have hurricanes. A bird needs to reach it's food source easier & evolves a longer beak. Being that God is so big, I see the Universe as a toy top. You wind it up & let it go or sometimes you stop it.
This is not tough.I have a bible and i looked at genises and it shows why humans die XD
God said to not eat the fruit from the tree in the garden of eden.Then women came to eat because the snake said something.Then women came to man to eat fruit to eat then god came and found women and man behind the bushes and questioned them.THen something happened he said that now man will die because he ate the fruit of knoledge of blalance of evil and good oh wait YOU SHOULD AT THE BIBLE BECAUSE YOU DONT
@SKlegomovies yeah but god knew they would sin before he even made them lol so why did he even bother telling them not to do it? plus they were ignorant they didnt know what was right or wrong untill they ate the fruit. then god does and punishes everyone by making us all have to die for what they did. THATS STUPID
@SKlegomovies name calling? more people dead and without homes in missouri ..should I thank god for that? there is already too many people here in alabama where I live that dont have homes including my friend . I helped several people but I cant help everyone ..How about god get off his ass and do something? oh thats right he is the one that sent the tornado to kill people. he creates calamity....
@concretecubes Well,sorry because I don't have time to check spelling or grammer mistakes because I type too fast and I have no time for checking MISTAKES!!!
First I will answer your question and then explain the logic after. Q: what actions would be evil if committed by God? A: Anything that is evil. So the question becomes, not "what does God have to do to be evil" but "can God do something that is evil?" The answer is no. God holds Himself to the same standards he set for us ( as demonstrated by Jesus Christ). So anything that God does that is evil would be evil, but because he is God he CANNOT peform and evil act.
Everything living only lives because of God. If you choose to live a life just doing everything contrary to whats good, God has the right to take that life back. He created us in his image, which is good. So God being creator isnt evil when destroying his creation, that chose NOT to follow his easy rules. And they were very easy in the garden.And nothing living can judge what is moral but God, so who are we to be ungrateful for the gift of life, & bring an aspersion on him, about immorality?
@2skullscrushing By your genius logic a parents have the right to kill their child.The rules in the garden weren't easy because neither Adam nor Eve had knowledge of what is good and what is evil.If parents kill their child because it disobeyed them they aren't evil?!You are a retard.The god of the bible is an immoral piece of shit that condones slavery,orders mass murder,says that a rapist should marry his victim and commits genocide.Your god is a huge piece of shit and he can go fuck himself.
@lishey100 I guess your referring to isaac almost being sacrificed by abrahm? you never read previous verses where those people, & most people in all regions, were already,(on their own),sacrificing new born in fire, to the god Molech? All those dueteronomy rules were to discipline savage people. they were not supposed to actually kill there child, & it was never a practice after that episode w/isaac either (fact). The point: for them to love their child & vice versa. but you're the genius here.
@2skullscrushing You guessed wrong.I am referring to what you said-"So God being creator isnt evil when destroying his creation,".Btw...it doesn't say anywhere that they aren't supposed to kill the child.In fact in Judges 11:30-40 Jephthah kills his young daughter (his only child) by burning her alive as a burnt sacrifice to the lord because he commands it.It is funny how you ignored all other examples of bible bullshit.
@lishey100 it says it was his daughter, that came through the gate upon his return from the children of Ammon being delivered to the children of israel. He wasnt going to kill her, but he swore it to God, and his daughter went onto the mountain for 2 months lamenting. and she returned, and then he kept his vow. But this is not God commanding it. this again only shows they were afraid of God, and were savage. This does not say God had anything to do with it.It was this that God was against.
@2skullscrushing It says that God granted him victory because of this vow so he clearly wanted her sacrificed to him.If god didn't want her to die he would have intervened like he did with Abraham.
@lishey100 When did God agree to the vow? & God never intervened when they were sacrificing their children to Molek. Does he intervene with all the sickoes of today, killing their kids? It seems to me if he intervened,he couldnt very well judge us on our own actions. I see that story as a lesson, not to make a vow with God,especially one like Jeph thahs, because look what could happen, your own daughter gets caught in it. & israel every year mourns that vow. So I dont see how God is responsible.
@2skullscrushing By granting him victory god agrees to the vow.God doesn't intervene today because he doesn't exist.God is omniscient so he knows where we are going before we are even born so your judgement argument fails pretty hard.If someone told me that he will kill his daughter in my name i will feel pretty responsible.
@lishey100 my argument fails? you cant assume God had a hand in any of that. its the writers idea that he did. Was there a two way conversation? And if my argument fails, how can yours even hold merit when you are assuming everything on Gods part, but then saying he doesnt exist, but he did when he granted the children of ammon to be delivered? If he doesnt exist to you, how can he be omniscient? And if someone kills his daughter, in your name, how is it at all your fault,your doing,or stoppable
@2skullscrushing "its the writers idea that he did"...that's the whole bible.If god does something bad its the writers idea...if he does something good its gods idea.God doesn't exist.By saying that god does something i am showing you what the bible says...it was quite obvious.If someone tells me that he wants to burn his daughter as an offering to me i will tell him that i don't want this offering.God however remained silent and let the girl die.
@lishey100 You're logic is flawed in this sense: you are likening hell to death. Hell isn't death. We get to Hell by dieing but Hell in and of itself is not death. It is separation from God. People cry that God is sending people to Hell when really He's not. He's simply honoring their choice of denying Him and not believing in Him. Using your parent analogy: if a parent gives their child perfect free will and that child doesn’t want to be with the parent...
@lishey100 ...much less even believe that the parent is theirs, then the parent (God) respects that out of love. That is what hell really is. Of course you’re right when you say Adam and Eve didn’t know good or evil, but they still knew that God had told them that they couldn’t eat from the tree. Just because they didn’t know it was evil doesn’t mean the act of disobedience wasn’t evil...
@lishey100 ...Furthermore, God never condones slavery and ordered a people to be wiped out because they sacrificed babies to idols and worshiped by committing bestiality and other horrendous acts. AND THEN YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT GOD NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THE EVIL IN THIS WORLD!!!!
@carson01061995 However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you.(Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT) If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. (Deuteronomy 20:10-14) They were killed because they didn't want to be slaves.
@lishey100 When I say God doesn't condone slavery, I meant so in the scense that we know it. God does not condone race-based slavery nor slave-hunters (Exodus 21:16). In Bible times, slavery was more a matter of social status. People sold themselves as slaves when they could not pay their debts or provide for their families. As for your second point: when they conqured cities they made a peace offering. They were giving them a chance to live. They didn't kill them for not wanting to be slaves.
@carson01061995 They were offered to either be enslaved or to be murdered.
If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town.(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
It doesn't matter if slavery is a matter of social status.Slavery is immoral.Do you think that we should have slaves today?A master had the right to beat his slaves so it was still fucked up.
@lishey100 You have to understand that these are instructions for war times. It wasn't murder any more than when we killed Nazi's during Normandy. In fact it was better than that because they were giving them a chance to live.
Once again: our vision of slavery is different from theirs. Notice he says nothing about beating them. That was your own assumption. You are adding something that isnt there. Slavery isn't immoral. Beating them and treating them as less than human is.
@carson01061995 When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
According to the bible you can beat them all you want as long as they dont die.
Instructions for war time?So if i a country invades a smaller country and tells them be our slaves or die that will be better then killing Nazis.
@lishey100 I congradulate you on knowing the Bible. Better than I do I must admit. Deuteronomy 20:1
"When you go to war against your enemies and see horses and chariots and an army greater than yours..." If anything the country is bigger.
As for slaves: you make a good point. I don't pretend to know what slavery was like back then. If you are truely looking for an answer to that and not just trying to willfully put up an argument against the Bible then you might want to look elsewhere.
@lishey100 and this means you can beat women so god condones beating women. and it says survives a day or two which sound like they can beat them to death aslong as they live two days after the beating.
It is impossible for God to do anything immoral or evil. Be careful that you are not taking His throne and judging God. You will be held accountable for that sin as well---Satan commits it continually.
The answer is none. God can not be tempted with evil, neither does he tempt any man. It doesnt matter what answer someone gives you it wont chance your opinion about how you believe. If someone says you are going to hell because you dont believe what they do, then ignore them. No one know the state of a mans heart except God himself. And what is evil, thats easy, MAN!!! Man is inherently evil, the potential to do evil is with us every day, so is good. We have to choose. Sorry 4 the typo's
The Christian definitions of good and evil tend to mean actions that please or displease God. By that logic, no act of God can be considered evil, as he ultimately works only to further his own already infinite glory.
In other words, all of creation is essentially one big act of masturbation on God's part, and anything that helps him to get off is considered good.
Wow the guy who wrote that shit about evil-devil..thats rly stupid...no offense BUT DO YOU RLY THINK GOD WAS THINKING OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE WHEN HE SAID THE WORD EVIL-DEVIL.I mean on my language evil is said "zao" and the word devil is said "vrag"...now ..PLS EXPLAIN ME HOW DOES THAT RHYME..if the words evi-devil would have anything to do with eachother..then it would be logical that those words rhyme on every language....
right, God doesn not do "evil". now there are 2 ways in which a plague can hit the earth
1) God is a "jealous God" and he can be angered. the very common misconception that people have is that God is so meek and peaceful and shy and harmless. could not be further from the truth. Yes God is all of those things (minus shy) and more but God is also a God of Battle, a consuming fire. all he has to do is speak and destruction can fall upon man. tbc
...that is why we should "fear Him" but he only pours his wrath on those who provoke him. thus the drowning of the world in noah's time, the destruction of soddom and gomorha but he rarely even does it. if he did, d whole world would probably be a desert wasteland by now!
2) now for all other things "evil" in the world. the sickness, the diseases, a lot of natural disasters, poverty and yes bad breath lol are as a result of another being which im sure u've heard of....
2)... it rhymes with "evil" ...the evil...d-evil....DEVIL aka satan, lucifer etc why is it that people forget about him? I mean every1 argues about whether or not God exists but no one ever mentions d devil? dont life itself teach us that with every protagonist, there always is an antagonist?
God protects his people from the wrath of the devil but when we curse him and hate him we r no longer under his umbrella of protection and we are vulnerable to attacks from the devil tbc
1) why is it that lots of aethist are not destroyed by the enemy. well u may consider this silly but if u are spreading the message of hate and doing evil in the world the devil would want u to be comfortable and powerful in the world so u can continue his evil message. why would he want u to be uncomfortable and risk u running to God for salvation?
2) u may also ask why do christians suffer. u probably know the story of Job. that explains it best
anyway the difference with christians is that there is always deliverance. God takes care of his own but he is always going to test us to see where our loyalty lies
@danielrrjd Something is neither good or bad because it's natural. I think dying is inevitable, and I think that all experience ends with death. Since I enjoy experiences, anything that would cause them to ceases would be a bad thing. I don't fear being dead, but I also don't look forward to dying.
@azsuperman01 Since dying is natural, these events that have led to death of many people are meant to be and ultimately are not evil. Evil comes from man's heart, nothing from outside is evil.
"There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him...For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders...pride, foolishness: all these evil things come from within and defile the man" (Mk.7:15-23).
@danielrrjd It would be difficult to be more wrong. That is the equivalent of saying that sex is natural, therefore rape is not evil. Everyone dies - that doesn't excuse anyone from responsibility if they are the cause of another's death. It also doesn't make an act causing the death of one (or millions) "good" or even amoral.
@azsuperman01 Sex is a natural impulse that has been given from outside, so it's not evil at all. The thought of raping someone comes from within man's thinking. I'm not saying our society is good, because clearly there are a lot of flaws in it, like rape, and murder, selfishness, and ego...
Ego can be defined as being identified with one's opinion or belief in something. Identified meaning that if I stop believing in that, I'll feel diminished or as if I wasn't myself,
@azsuperman01 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.
God is pleading with sinners, please let sin Go! Why do people insist on following satan to doom.
@danielrrjd I would still be interested in seeing your answer to the actual question asked in the video -- What actions would you consider evil or immoral if committed by God?
@azsuperman01 It could be considered evil to let us experience evil. But then again, if we wouldn't have experienced it, how do we know what is good? as everything in the universe has two poles, it's a law that doesn't have anything to do with religion.
A question for you: How do you know what is light if there wouldn't be darkness?
@all the supposed evils described in the clip r the rest of man's sin and rebellion. The problem really is for the evolutionists as Dawkins affirms that evil does not exist...
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@JimmyDoom Yes, God punishes disobedience. You have to see the difference between killing, murder, of a fellow human being, without any reason or rights - and a just judgment executed by a higher power (like God or the God-ordained power). If we kill - or break His Law in other ways for that matter - like Sodom & C:O did, He will judge and punish us, in the end with death and Hell, which is completely just and righteous.
@JimmyDoom God has not laid out any ethical convictions (Law) contrary to His nature. If we have such, e g that would lead us to blasphemy, they come from our evil flesh which is in rebellion against God, and yes, we should ignore them. We are responsible to keep God's Law. His judgments are righteous.
No actions could be "evil" if "commited by God. Everything God does is good, because He's the ultimate standard and Law. Without God you can't tell what's good or evil. Saying that God is evil is blasphemy and makes you evil. It is good and righteous of God to destroy evil sinful humans with death and disease and ultimately eternal suffering in Hell. God is the sovereign Creator and can do, and does whatever He wants with His own creation. Who is the creature to question its Creator? Rom 9:19-23
Revelation 10:11 And they say to me(John), "You must prophesy again with regard to peoples and nations and tongues and many kings."
Is John one of the witnesses?
Check out my favs, especially the one about the stars found in the bible. Pics in those videos of the Sun Moon and Stars are authentic and the end time is drawing. The stars seem to be 11 then 12 and then definitely7. Check out these symbols and signs from heaven.
Are humans good? No I wouldn't say we are. We constantly destroy things on earth. The only good things we do are fixing problems that we usually make. So if we are not good, then where is our entitlement to deem things good or bad?There are things that are good for us, which usually in turn makes things worse for everything else. So there has to be a balance. We must be wiped out every now and then so we don't destroy the planet that sustains life for us. I believe that is an adequate answer.
I ask you this, Is there such a thing as cold? If your answer was yes you are wrong. For cold is just a lack of heat. Does darkness exist? No for it is just the absence of light. We can study light but not darkness. The actions of man lack righteousness. And that bring wickedness to this world. God did not create wickedness but man brought it into this world. :D
@wertguy12000 If "evil" is just the "lack of God," in the same way that darkness is a "lack of light," then the phrase "God is Good" tells you absolutely nothing about his character. The phrase is completely meaningless.
@wertguy12000 Well put! though I want to add that "Good" and "Evil" as WE know them are limited in our perspective, the more you look at the Bible the more see that God's standards of "Good" are incredibly higher than ours, also letting evil continue is allowing it to happen, at some point you have to draw the line and say enough, SOMETHING has to be done! It's a sort of paradox such a Sodom and Gommora, He could not restrain Himself any longer and could not let it go on, and WHAT happened?!?!
@CommonSense1208 If you are even slightly familiar with the Bible, then you know that if a human was convicted of even half of the actions attributed to God he would be considered the most evil person to have ever existed.
The more I read the Bible the more I realize that God's standards of "good" and "evil" are not higher than ours, they simply don't exist. That is why you have had such a hard time giving examples of actions which you would consider "evil" if God committed them.
God has given us freewill because he loves us so. But man has abused it. God is a just God so He must brong justice to our sins. For example, Lets say God is the world's greatest judge and man was his son. Now let's say man commited armed robbery and God has to judge him. Sinc God is just he must bring justice. But intead of man having to burn, God has stepped down and taken the punishment for us.
This God is evil idea is nothing new, but it is becuase of man and his choices that lead him into sin thats that causes God to see Justice done, people commit sins all the time and we downplay them or blame someone else (in this case God), we have free will and we CHOOSE TO SIN, its not that we unconsciously kill someone or steal or blasphemy, we CHOOSE to do so, YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW!
@CommonSense1208 I didn't say God was evil, I asked for examples of actions that would be evil if he committed them. Surely you can name some examples of how God would behave differently if he were evil?
@azsuperman01 Alright, if God were legitimately "Evil" how would He behave, well... He certainly WOULDN'T send Jesus to die for our sake, but I honestly can't bring myself to actually say anything about God acting "evil", I would be descirbing Satan or psychotic dictators like Hitler or Stalin, or an Antichrist figure who would grip the world in his tyranny and kill billions with disease, but for God to do something "Evil" he would need only to do nothing and let us destroy ourselves in our sin.
@CommonSense1208 The only difference you would recognize between a "good" God and a hypothetical "evil" God is that the "evil" God would not have tortured his son for crimes he didn't commit? (Obviously, if the Bible is true, God has gripped the world in his tyranny and killed billions with disease, it is strange that you would choose these two as examples of "evil.")
@azsuperman01 You're forgetting the Jesus' whole purpose! He was sent to die for us, to furfill the prophecies in Isaiah and other books, and we he went willingly, He brought the new law into the world and lived a life no sinful human could ever hope to match. For Him to send His son (or a piece of Himself as I interpret it) to take our punishment for our sake, why? if he were evil that would make no sense! he created a way to satisfy his system of justice while saving us, THIS is an evil God?
@CommonSense1208 I'm not calling him evil, I'm just asking what action YOU would consider evil if he were to commit it. I find it odd that the ONLY difference you can come up with between a "good" God and an "evil" God is that your "good" God created a system by which everyone was born guilty and pre-sentenced to eternal torture, then the "good" God tortured himself/his son (for crimes he didn't commit) in order to convince himself to allow a few people to avoid the fate they were born into.
@azsuperman01 Whether you're calling him an "evil" God or a God who does evil things it's all the same, if He were to DO NOTHING while people sinned and sinned and He let it go on, THAT would be evil because He would be allowing it to continue when He could stop it, like if a cop just watched while a woman was raped and the cop walked away, God doesn't take any pleasure from bringing down judgment but He HAS to draw the line at some point, then He makes examples of them as a warning to US
@CommonSense1208 I haven't called God evil, or said he does evil things. I simply asked what actions YOU would consider evil if God committed them. You are the one who said there is no difference between a "good" God and an "evil" God except that an evil God wouldn't have tortured an innocent man in order to convince himself to forgive a few people. (If he exists, your most recent example of watching as a woman gets raped is repeated by God on a daily basis, with no intervention.)
@CommonSense1208 This really shouldn't be a difficult question. The more you describe a hypothetical "evil" God, the more I wonder if you are intentionally trying to define YOUR God as evil.
@azsuperman01 WOW!!! I must SUCK at explaining things if that's what your getting, let me clarify: I'm saying that these times in the Bible when he's brought destruction and plagues and such its because Man would not listen, they clung to their Sin and God punished them for it, they brought it down on themselves, God intervenes ALOT more than you might think, just because you don't "see" it doesn't mean he isn't doing something, for me I've have too many "cooincidences" to say "there is no God"!
@CommonSense1208 Nope, looks like you're communicating just fine. The destruction and plagues could be described (using your words) by saying during that time God would "grip the world in his tyranny and kill billions with disease." Also, are you denying that God daily "just watches while women are raped," that he "allows it to continue when He could stop it." As I said, it appears you are TRYING to define your God as evil.
@CommonSense1208 According to you, the only difference between a "good" God and an "evil" God is that an "evil" God would not have tortured an innocent man in order to convince himself to forgive guilty people. Frankly that seems like an odd distinction - especially since your "good" God appears to commit a lot of actions YOU have defined as "evil." If the majority of God's actions are "evil" (according to your definition) and he has only done one "good" thing, why do you still call him good?
@azsuperman01 You are a very difficult person, do you know that? What part of "Jesus died for us" do you not understand? That was half of His entire purpose! (the other half being to furfill the prophecies in the Old Testament) By dying on the cross He created a way to save US from our sins, it makes no sense for an "evil" God to keep trying to turn people away from sin and pursue such a course at his own expense, and i've said repeatedly he does things behind the scenes, not NOTHING!
@CommonSense1208 I understand that Jesus died for us. God created a system by which every human is guilty of not being God and he set the punishment for not being God as eternal torture. Then God decided the only way he could forgive any humans for not being HIM was if he impregnated a teenage girl with himself, made a human out of himself, and then killed it.
@azsuperman01 Wow! That's uh an interesting way of looking at the Crucifixition and the Birth of Christ, I find it hard to believe you were EVER a Christian! You and I are truly opposites, you were a Mormon who turned Atheist and I'm an Agnostic who turned Christian, since four years ago I've noticed myself changing on the inside, my friends have noticed that I cuss much, much less (and I'll tell you I cursed more than ANYONE you can think of!) even I!! found God's light, what happened to you??
@azsuperman01 I am getting rather tired of trying to explain to you that MAN is responisble for his OWN SIns and God has been more than patient trying to get people to turn around, he respects our freewill and tries to work with us. I saw your video on "freewill" so I already know how you feel about it but the simple fact is we have "freewill" because God wants us to CHOOSE GOOD and CHOOSE to follow Him, if we Don't want to do that then we suffer in our sins in this world that WE created!
@CommonSense1208 You didn't answer the question... If the cop "watched patiently" as the rapist violated the woman, and waited for him to "turn around," would that make his failure to intervene less evil? What if he watched the rapist violate multiple women for 70-80 years, then - when he was too old and weak to rape anyone ever again - the police offer sent the rapist to jail -- would his actions be "good" or "evil"?
@azsuperman01 You're right, I've been avoiding that question because I wasn't sure how to answer it, but I do now. Yes women are raped on a daily basis and yes it would be disgusting for a cop to just stand by and let it happen, but for God to watch and do nothing about it, my answer is... YES that would be "evil", BUT as I said, God works behind a veil, we do not see Him guiding the investigation to the rapist and in the end He will see justice done, I have faith in that, that's my answer!
@CommonSense1208 So... it's "evil" for a cop sit by and watch a woman get raped when he has the ability to intervene, but it's NOT evil for an all-powerful God to sit by and watch hundreds of women get raped because... sometimes the rapist is eventually caught? Why is the standard of morality you use to define "good" and "evil" actions for God so much LOWER than the standard you use for humans?
@azsuperman01 Iknew you'd say something like that, so I'm ready for you this time. Think about this, how precisely would God intervene directly, would He kill the rapist right there with a heart attack like Kira does on Death Note? (interesting anime, Kira's an antihero), if criminals and scum dropped dead like mad around the world constantly, then that would be killing even more people, gripping the world in fear as Kira does and would destroy any sense of faith in Him! Would that be justice?!
@CommonSense1208 You've limited an "all-powerful" God to 2 options: 1) Do nothing, or 2) Kill people. Why wouldn't you assume he would have at least as many options as the hypothetical police officer? -- not to mention all the super-natural options the cop wouldn't have available? You must not think much of your God or of his abilities.
@azsuperman01 I want to you know something, I don't have anything against you personally, actually I really appreciate that you are a fairly reasonable and respectful person, I think one of the reasons you make these "Tough Questions" is get answers for the questions that you yourself have. You're also a quicker wit and a better debater than I am. I have to admit I have questions myself, but I've decided I should better understand the scripture myself before I debate people like you.
how in the world god is evil that doesn't make any since too at all
jingman3 1 week ago
Friday- Rebecca Black
xPray2die2dayx 2 weeks ago
Anything against God is even. Then how can he be evil??????
yuvanrockstar 3 weeks ago
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Baltasar2000 1 month ago
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4ester44 1 month ago
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. (Isaiah 5.20)
jg1989jg 1 month ago
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God does not do evil.
SummerSunshine1988 2 months ago
um....im gonna say...god makes mistakes and doesn't know how to correct them which makes it seem evil to us cuz we don't understand...and instead of dealing with the problems of the world, god does nothing and tries to put fear in people making them no go against him to question his methods....kinda like a mad scientist and we're all lil frankensteins...lol just a thought...what do u think???
Vonniesistah 2 months ago
god is not all knowing. god is pathetic.
idontsignin 2 months ago
God does no evil. You are mixing God with evil. Satan is evil and hates God. Why do you assume God does evil? The Creator does create life and take life. Who are we to ask the maker? Does the clay pot ask the Pot maker? God has the right to do as He pleases because He is God and you are a person.
kimkerchner 2 months ago
@kimkerchner CUT the CRAP: There IS NO SATAN, Jackass!
flightkiller09 3 weeks ago
@flightkiller09 Are you sure there is no satan? Satan is the most under estimated being and the most over estimated being that was created by God. Those who are lost and under his control under estimate his cleverness. And those who are aware of him sometimes over estimate him. There is a spiritual battle going on in this world that is unseen to humans. God wants to save you and Satan and his demons don't want you saved. Brother, please make sure you are correct in your assement of satan.
kimkerchner 3 weeks ago
Yes it is in the books of GOD that HIS punishment is severe, so He shows what HE says.BUT HE is indeed merciful too. He doesnt punishes us soon but HE rewards us every minute of the day.
xquse18 2 months ago
God could authority people being burned alive...(What's that's? He did? oh ummm[Lev 21:9].) He could approve of slavery...(He does[Exod 21]?)How about he could approve of human sacrifice(Yeah...he did that..sacrificed himself to HIMSELF[Judges 11]). Screw it!
MrEmeraldfusion 3 months ago
Oh my, I don't think I've seen a funnier bunch of nonsensical ridiculous attempts at rationalization than I have in these comments, like, ever. You people must all be trolls. There is no way that these are serious answers. How could you possibly look yourself in the mirror and say, it's OK for my god to punish perfectly good, decent people for eternity because he disagrees with their choice of religion. Pure crazy talk. Grow up people.
AliburX 3 months ago
God cannot do anything immoral/evil. God does not fear evil. God will triumph over evil. God is good.
voldmerot 4 months ago
@voldmerot So slaughtering children isn't immoral? Committing genocide isn't immoral? The only way you could call the abrahamic god anything but immoral is if you just assume no rules apply to him, his own or any objective or logical based ones.
humanistheart 3 months ago
@humanistheart God gives life and God takes life. When a man tries to become God, he simply becomes a murderer.
voldmerot 3 months ago
@voldmerot Once something is given, to take it back is considered steeling in virtually every society. And he gives life? Well, that's like saying life is a gift, and a gift with strings attached is no gift at all.
humanistheart 3 months ago
@humanistheart We and our ancestors before us have been sinning against God for millennia. The wages of sin is death. That is why we all die today. Accusing God of stealing is a sin, my friend, albeit a slightly absurd/humorous one. I advise you to repent of you sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Receive the free gift of everlasting life and be assured of your salvation from hell. Spread the Word.
voldmerot 3 months ago
@voldmerot No, we die from cellular decay and other natural process', no gods involved. Again, a gift with strings attached is no gift, and taking something once given is theft.
humanistheart 3 months ago
@humanistheart clearly you have made your choice. Now just sit back and wait.
voldmerot 3 months ago
@voldmerot Stop waiting, live.
humanistheart 3 months ago
@humanistheart I'm alive. Thanks for your concern.
voldmerot 3 months ago
@voldmerot Not be alive, live. Different concepts
humanistheart 3 months ago
@humanistheart explain.
voldmerot 3 months ago
@voldmerot To live in this context is a phrase for getting out and enjoying life. To be alive means only that. Even coma victims are technically alive.
humanistheart 3 months ago
@humanistheart thanks for clearing that up for me.
voldmerot 3 months ago
Good question. As shown again and again in the Pentateuch, god cannot do anything evil, since he is god and he just "knows better." Just like Kim Jong-Il, Stalin, or any other dictator whose followers are deluded sheep. Just saying.
tommyallen99 5 months ago
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"If God was infinitely merciful -- would all this bad shit happen?"
No. The world is an in between place. A test of free will for us humans.
By definition, if everything in the world was good - that would make it heaven.
It's not.
And fuck Muslims, too.
MohammedTheBabyRaper 5 months ago
god is good no evil he teach us to go in the wright direction , and with the ebola virus people just use their free will to fuck other people's life god also give us the hammers to build houses and you can choose to use your free will to kill somebody with the hammer so you can choose good or evil now is god's fault for giving us the hammer to kill other person we use the gift that god give us to us our free will and kill some one, people dont understand thats why he brought the plagues egipt
suckmyazzz 5 months ago
I love this!
LegendGeek007 5 months ago
If god killed every one of us, that would be. That would make him go against his word.
reddudeonline 5 months ago
God could disembowel someone and christians would not say it was evil.....
232323C 5 months ago 8
Real talk nigga your stupid one cuz you are followin satan and also by not believin in god one question for your dumbass :) do you believe you have a brain? Yes but have you ever seen it NO and everythin is for a purpose but when your in tha pits of hell that is if you stay like this then i want to see another video of you doubting god :) love sosouth210 you hoe ass nigga
sosouth210 5 months ago
@sosouth210 Actually, I have seen my brain. Now feel free to answer the question. What action(s) would you consider immoral or evil if committed by God?
azsuperman01 5 months ago 9
@azsuperman01 the bible doesn't specify god as being a solely one thing. god created everything. god is merciful and good and not necessarily evil but he punishes those who screw up bad. sort of like how if you hav ea child that misbehaves you spank them, doesn't mean you don't love them but you gotta punish them.
Falcondick69 4 months ago
@sosouth210 well basicaly we know from experience that without a brain the human body cant function so thats how you know we have one. and humans CAN function without god so your question is pretty flawed i'd say also i dont like how cristians (possibly such as urself) go round persecutiong other religions like yours is the RIGHT ONE! how do u know that? all religions teach that so.. yea i too believe in god so u cant go all religious on me. theese questions mean the bible is shit not god yea?
KyleMcKalen 5 months ago
1. God is Good and does only God.
2. When God sends someone to hell, he's doing good.
3. You're sinning against your God; albeit the one that gives you the very breath you use to blaspheme him. Repent and trust in Jesus, lest you likewise prove God's goodness on sinners who transgress his laws.
TerrenceTheodore 6 months ago
@TerrenceTheodore That was moronic.
humanistheart 5 months ago 2
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youneekk 6 months ago
How do we know God can control the Earth. Maybe he is NOT limitless
TheAmericanPatriot28 7 months ago
1.You are assuming that God made evil. 2. everything God made was good before satan fell. 3. Satan created the first sin, by not telling the truth. 4. That makes him king of lies( and he's very good at it ) . After that everything changed. 5. So if you want to blame someone for Death in the world, blame satan.
helgardmuller1983 7 months ago
@helgardmuller1983
For one to eat anything (As genesis claims adam and eve did) You have to kill another organism. That's also a defining trait of the animal kingdom.
NUTCASE71733 7 months ago
@helgardmuller1983 Lying first makes one the king of it? So the first being to do something is the king of it? How did you come to that conclusion?
humanistheart 6 months ago
Its sin that plagues the world this is the evil at its purest form. Just think of all the sin in this World and then you will realize that every generation gets worse and evil Intensifies! Satan is the effect of whats going on all around the globe and Man listens to him instead of Obeying God. God allows these things to happen because he knows there will be an end and its coming for Satan who continues to harass Gods creation, but the world today comes together only when disaster strikes sad.
A1truth 7 months ago
Why continuously blame God?
A man's own "FAULT" brings him to ruin yet his heart rages against God.
leemorethomas 7 months ago
the posts go from bottom to up btw dont get confused
wasqe324 7 months ago
Job 1:21 (KJV)
Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD.
wasqe324 7 months ago
And God explained that he created all these things. So nobody should accuse God. Nobody should say that God is not fair. Instead, we must respect God. And we must be humble.
Then Job was sorry that he said the wrong things about God. And Job’s friends were sorry too. They asked Job to pray for them. And God forgave them all (Job chapter 42).
After Job prayed for his friends, God made Job successful again (Job 42:12-17).
wasqe324 7 months ago
Then a storm approached the men. And the men heard God’s voice (Job chapter 38 to chapter 41).
God reminded the men that he is very great. He told them about the world, the stars and the sea (Job chapter 38). He described many strange animals (Job chapter 39 to chapter 41).
wasqe324 7 months ago
God was kind to Job, even when Job was suffering. God taught Job many things. Job learned that death is not the end of everything (Job 19:25-27). Job discovered that God would rescue him (Job 14:13-17). And Job knew that God is wonderful (Job 26:5-14).
Then a man called Elihu spoke. Elihu was wiser than Job’s other friends were. Elihu told Job not to accuse God. And Elihu was angry that the other friends had been cruel to Job (Job 32:2-3).
wasqe324 7 months ago
@wasqe324 "God was kind to Job, even when Job was suffering."
What are you basing that on? It's rather insignificant to tell tales of animals and call it being kind while your killing his family, crops, livestock and so on.
humanistheart 6 months ago 2
Job argued with them. He explained that he was innocent (Job 31:1-40). Job thought that God should help him. But Job was still suffering. So Job supposed that God was unfair (Job 23:13-17). But this idea was wrong. Nobody should accuse God. God is always fair (Job 34:10-12).
wasqe324 7 months ago
Job’s friends tried to help Job. But their advice was wrong. They did not think that God would allow an innocent person to suffer. So they thought that Job was guilty. They guessed that Job had done many wicked things (Job 22:4-11).
wasqe324 7 months ago
In fact, God did not cause Job’s troubles. God merely permitted Job to suffer. Still, Job trusted God. And Job refused to insult God (Job 2:9-10).
wasqe324 7 months ago
The Book of Job tells the story of a man called Job. Job was a good man. Job trusted God. But Job had terrible troubles.
The devil caused Job’s troubles (Job 1:12; Job 2:6-7). But Job did not know this fact. So Job thought that God caused the problems (Job 19:1-12).
wasqe324 7 months ago
@azsuperman01
And anyone who believes in God’s Son has eternal life. Anyone who doesn’t obey the Son will never experience eternal life but remains under God’s angry judgment.John 3:36, Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.John 3:18
wasqe324 7 months ago
God is evil for makng justin bieber
ComfortablePWNage 7 months ago
These posts are really good, in my personal opinion. That is just it, good and evil are relative to whom is observing the act in question. If "God" is real, then God is both good and evil. God created us and gave us free will or the "gift" of choice. Animals choose. A lion, snake or bird will choose its prey. We will choose our actions. God must first create the prey and create our choices. He created good and evil. Lucifer was Gods creation. So any act God does is both good and evil.
cerba 7 months ago
Hitler is no less evil or good then anyone else. Just becse he did what he did doesn't make him any less good or bad then any other. It's in our hears which condem us. Evil to God. Well..allowing the just to burn in hell
MissChaceurz 7 months ago
All things are created by God are good in God's eyes. Who are we to think we are above anything God does or creates? Humans are so arrogant.
A virus is a living thing, it does what it does to live. It doesn't do what it does out of malice. It just is.Same with cancer, TB, Typhoid, AiDS, H1N1, Mosquitoes, Spiders, Wasps (ugh), Poison Ivy, Bears, Tigers, Sharks...etc. All the things WE deem bad just are what they are. God does no evil. That's not God's thing. We just see what's bad to us as bad.
etonks 8 months ago
@etonks Yoiu know what that's called? natural selection. the natural selection of who lives and who dies, who is bigger or badder than another living thing.
concretecubes 8 months ago
@concretecubes Yup! "We" Humans are arrogant enough to think we are above nature of any kind. Just because we can mess with nature and screw up the World doesn't mean we are above it, on the contrary, we act like a virus.
And who is to say God didn't set things in motion that way? We won't really know that until we die.
etonks 8 months ago
@etonks lol, i don't want this to develop into a argument, i just wanted to put that out there :P i learnt alot of things in my life, and one of those s that you don't argue over religion, nobody every wins or loses :P
concretecubes 8 months ago
@concretecubes No Argument here. I'm agreeing with you. It's a difficult thing to argue over because no one, in their right mind, knows 100% if they are right until they die. Well, and then when you find out, you can't tell anyone! :D
etonks 8 months ago
@etonks lol, true!!
concretecubes 8 months ago
@etonks what? that's like drowning a dog and saying "no, dont worry, what i did wasn't bad because the water was just doing its job". if god controls everything then hes also responsible for every ounce of pain anyone's ever felt. things like the Holocaust and massive floods would be completely controlled by him. if Hitler is evil then why isn't god?
renegadeskinninja 8 months ago
@renegadeskinninja It would be YOU who killed the dog. If he fell into a river, he could drown.That doesn't make the river evil. I NEVER said God controls everything. God set the World, Universe & everything into motion. Living things do what they need to do to live.That's life. Sometimes it sucks. Evil defines good & vise versa. Hitler was evil, but so was not doing anything about him earlier. God gave us free will. Evil or Good is a choice. No free will, no choice. Your choice, not God's.
etonks 8 months ago
@etonks I'm starting to get confused. which religion are we talking about?
renegadeskinninja 8 months ago
@renegadeskinninja :D Well it's called "Tough Question for Christians"
etonks 8 months ago
@etonks Odd, i thought the bible mentioned god being omnipotent. no?
renegadeskinninja 8 months ago
@renegadeskinninja ...and your point being?
etonks 8 months ago
@etonks if the bible said hes omnipotent then should you believe hes omnipotent or something?
renegadeskinninja 8 months ago
@renegadeskinninja Yes, God is all powerful , all knowing, all things & everything. Hmm, I see your point! Yet God made us and gave us free will. God set the Universe in motion & all things do as they are supposed do. Stars go Nova,the plates shift & we have earthquakes. The air heats up & we have hurricanes. A bird needs to reach it's food source easier & evolves a longer beak. Being that God is so big, I see the Universe as a toy top. You wind it up & let it go or sometimes you stop it.
etonks 8 months ago
This is not tough.I have a bible and i looked at genises and it shows why humans die XD
God said to not eat the fruit from the tree in the garden of eden.Then women came to eat because the snake said something.Then women came to man to eat fruit to eat then god came and found women and man behind the bushes and questioned them.THen something happened he said that now man will die because he ate the fruit of knoledge of blalance of evil and good oh wait YOU SHOULD AT THE BIBLE BECAUSE YOU DONT
SKlegomovies 8 months ago
@SKlegomovies yeah but god knew they would sin before he even made them lol so why did he even bother telling them not to do it? plus they were ignorant they didnt know what was right or wrong untill they ate the fruit. then god does and punishes everyone by making us all have to die for what they did. THATS STUPID
DarkBeauty1989 8 months ago
@DarkBeauty1989 Hahahahhahaaaaa well don't blame me idiot.Blame teh bible but IF the bible was fake its kinda interesting...
SKlegomovies 8 months ago
@SKlegomovies name calling? more people dead and without homes in missouri ..should I thank god for that? there is already too many people here in alabama where I live that dont have homes including my friend . I helped several people but I cant help everyone ..How about god get off his ass and do something? oh thats right he is the one that sent the tornado to kill people. he creates calamity....
DarkBeauty1989 8 months ago
@DarkBeauty1989 AHHAHAAHAHAAAAAAAA WOW YOUR SOOOOOO STUPID BECAUSE GOD DIDN'T DO THAT!ITS ALL THERE FAULT YOU KNOW RIGHT?
Wow you gotta stop your bad temper.Bye! :D
SKlegomovies 8 months ago
@SKlegomovies how is it their fault god send a tornado to kill them?
DarkBeauty1989 8 months ago
@DarkBeauty1989 ITS NOT HIS FAULT NOW SHUT UP AND TALK TO SOMEONE ELSE PLEASE!
SKlegomovies 8 months ago
@SKlegomovies how is it not his fault when god is allpowerful ..and god is the one that has a history of sending natural disasters to kill people?
DarkBeauty1989 8 months ago
@SKlegomovies Dude, please spell check your writings, please.....
concretecubes 8 months ago
@concretecubes Well,sorry because I don't have time to check spelling or grammer mistakes because I type too fast and I have no time for checking MISTAKES!!!
SKlegomovies 8 months ago
First I will answer your question and then explain the logic after. Q: what actions would be evil if committed by God? A: Anything that is evil. So the question becomes, not "what does God have to do to be evil" but "can God do something that is evil?" The answer is no. God holds Himself to the same standards he set for us ( as demonstrated by Jesus Christ). So anything that God does that is evil would be evil, but because he is God he CANNOT peform and evil act.
carson01061995 8 months ago
huh?? c'mon!! its all a result of sin from sin silly hello!! God is good we are evil
MissChaceurz 9 months ago
Hey retard: can you make a comment on situation in Lybia?
LOL
radiotaiga 9 months ago
Everything living only lives because of God. If you choose to live a life just doing everything contrary to whats good, God has the right to take that life back. He created us in his image, which is good. So God being creator isnt evil when destroying his creation, that chose NOT to follow his easy rules. And they were very easy in the garden.And nothing living can judge what is moral but God, so who are we to be ungrateful for the gift of life, & bring an aspersion on him, about immorality?
2skullscrushing 9 months ago
@2skullscrushing By your genius logic a parents have the right to kill their child.The rules in the garden weren't easy because neither Adam nor Eve had knowledge of what is good and what is evil.If parents kill their child because it disobeyed them they aren't evil?!You are a retard.The god of the bible is an immoral piece of shit that condones slavery,orders mass murder,says that a rapist should marry his victim and commits genocide.Your god is a huge piece of shit and he can go fuck himself.
lishey100 9 months ago
@lishey100 I guess your referring to isaac almost being sacrificed by abrahm? you never read previous verses where those people, & most people in all regions, were already,(on their own),sacrificing new born in fire, to the god Molech? All those dueteronomy rules were to discipline savage people. they were not supposed to actually kill there child, & it was never a practice after that episode w/isaac either (fact). The point: for them to love their child & vice versa. but you're the genius here.
2skullscrushing 9 months ago
@2skullscrushing You guessed wrong.I am referring to what you said-"So God being creator isnt evil when destroying his creation,".Btw...it doesn't say anywhere that they aren't supposed to kill the child.In fact in Judges 11:30-40 Jephthah kills his young daughter (his only child) by burning her alive as a burnt sacrifice to the lord because he commands it.It is funny how you ignored all other examples of bible bullshit.
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2skullscrushing 9 months ago
@2skullscrushing "and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.”"and he did to her as he had vowed" Are you sure no daughters were killed?
lishey100 9 months ago
@lishey100 it says it was his daughter, that came through the gate upon his return from the children of Ammon being delivered to the children of israel. He wasnt going to kill her, but he swore it to God, and his daughter went onto the mountain for 2 months lamenting. and she returned, and then he kept his vow. But this is not God commanding it. this again only shows they were afraid of God, and were savage. This does not say God had anything to do with it.It was this that God was against.
2skullscrushing 9 months ago
@2skullscrushing It says that God granted him victory because of this vow so he clearly wanted her sacrificed to him.If god didn't want her to die he would have intervened like he did with Abraham.
lishey100 9 months ago
@lishey100 When did God agree to the vow? & God never intervened when they were sacrificing their children to Molek. Does he intervene with all the sickoes of today, killing their kids? It seems to me if he intervened,he couldnt very well judge us on our own actions. I see that story as a lesson, not to make a vow with God,especially one like Jeph thahs, because look what could happen, your own daughter gets caught in it. & israel every year mourns that vow. So I dont see how God is responsible.
2skullscrushing 9 months ago
@2skullscrushing By granting him victory god agrees to the vow.God doesn't intervene today because he doesn't exist.God is omniscient so he knows where we are going before we are even born so your judgement argument fails pretty hard.If someone told me that he will kill his daughter in my name i will feel pretty responsible.
lishey100 9 months ago
@lishey100 my argument fails? you cant assume God had a hand in any of that. its the writers idea that he did. Was there a two way conversation? And if my argument fails, how can yours even hold merit when you are assuming everything on Gods part, but then saying he doesnt exist, but he did when he granted the children of ammon to be delivered? If he doesnt exist to you, how can he be omniscient? And if someone kills his daughter, in your name, how is it at all your fault,your doing,or stoppable
2skullscrushing 9 months ago
@2skullscrushing "its the writers idea that he did"...that's the whole bible.If god does something bad its the writers idea...if he does something good its gods idea.God doesn't exist.By saying that god does something i am showing you what the bible says...it was quite obvious.If someone tells me that he wants to burn his daughter as an offering to me i will tell him that i don't want this offering.God however remained silent and let the girl die.
lishey100 9 months ago
@lishey100 You're logic is flawed in this sense: you are likening hell to death. Hell isn't death. We get to Hell by dieing but Hell in and of itself is not death. It is separation from God. People cry that God is sending people to Hell when really He's not. He's simply honoring their choice of denying Him and not believing in Him. Using your parent analogy: if a parent gives their child perfect free will and that child doesn’t want to be with the parent...
carson01061995 8 months ago
@lishey100 ...much less even believe that the parent is theirs, then the parent (God) respects that out of love. That is what hell really is. Of course you’re right when you say Adam and Eve didn’t know good or evil, but they still knew that God had told them that they couldn’t eat from the tree. Just because they didn’t know it was evil doesn’t mean the act of disobedience wasn’t evil...
carson01061995 8 months ago
@lishey100 ...Furthermore, God never condones slavery and ordered a people to be wiped out because they sacrificed babies to idols and worshiped by committing bestiality and other horrendous acts. AND THEN YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT GOD NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THE EVIL IN THIS WORLD!!!!
carson01061995 8 months ago
@carson01061995 However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you.(Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT) If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. (Deuteronomy 20:10-14) They were killed because they didn't want to be slaves.
lishey100 8 months ago
@lishey100 When I say God doesn't condone slavery, I meant so in the scense that we know it. God does not condone race-based slavery nor slave-hunters (Exodus 21:16). In Bible times, slavery was more a matter of social status. People sold themselves as slaves when they could not pay their debts or provide for their families. As for your second point: when they conqured cities they made a peace offering. They were giving them a chance to live. They didn't kill them for not wanting to be slaves.
carson01061995 8 months ago
@carson01061995 They were offered to either be enslaved or to be murdered.
If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town.(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
It doesn't matter if slavery is a matter of social status.Slavery is immoral.Do you think that we should have slaves today?A master had the right to beat his slaves so it was still fucked up.
Your god is shit.
lishey100 8 months ago
@lishey100 You have to understand that these are instructions for war times. It wasn't murder any more than when we killed Nazi's during Normandy. In fact it was better than that because they were giving them a chance to live.
Once again: our vision of slavery is different from theirs. Notice he says nothing about beating them. That was your own assumption. You are adding something that isnt there. Slavery isn't immoral. Beating them and treating them as less than human is.
carson01061995 8 months ago
@carson01061995 When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
According to the bible you can beat them all you want as long as they dont die.
Instructions for war time?So if i a country invades a smaller country and tells them be our slaves or die that will be better then killing Nazis.
lishey100 8 months ago
@lishey100 I congradulate you on knowing the Bible. Better than I do I must admit. Deuteronomy 20:1
"When you go to war against your enemies and see horses and chariots and an army greater than yours..." If anything the country is bigger.
As for slaves: you make a good point. I don't pretend to know what slavery was like back then. If you are truely looking for an answer to that and not just trying to willfully put up an argument against the Bible then you might want to look elsewhere.
carson01061995 8 months ago
@lishey100 and this means you can beat women so god condones beating women. and it says survives a day or two which sound like they can beat them to death aslong as they live two days after the beating.
DarkBeauty1989 8 months ago
It is impossible for God to do anything immoral or evil. Be careful that you are not taking His throne and judging God. You will be held accountable for that sin as well---Satan commits it continually.
Floatingaxe 9 months ago
The answer is none. God can not be tempted with evil, neither does he tempt any man. It doesnt matter what answer someone gives you it wont chance your opinion about how you believe. If someone says you are going to hell because you dont believe what they do, then ignore them. No one know the state of a mans heart except God himself. And what is evil, thats easy, MAN!!! Man is inherently evil, the potential to do evil is with us every day, so is good. We have to choose. Sorry 4 the typo's
JoezVendetta 9 months ago
The Christian definitions of good and evil tend to mean actions that please or displease God. By that logic, no act of God can be considered evil, as he ultimately works only to further his own already infinite glory.
In other words, all of creation is essentially one big act of masturbation on God's part, and anything that helps him to get off is considered good.
spazmagoog 9 months ago
Wow the guy who wrote that shit about evil-devil..thats rly stupid...no offense BUT DO YOU RLY THINK GOD WAS THINKING OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE WHEN HE SAID THE WORD EVIL-DEVIL.I mean on my language evil is said "zao" and the word devil is said "vrag"...now ..PLS EXPLAIN ME HOW DOES THAT RHYME..if the words evi-devil would have anything to do with eachother..then it would be logical that those words rhyme on every language....
CrAzYXaXa 9 months ago
ahhh one of my fav aethist questions :)
right, God doesn not do "evil". now there are 2 ways in which a plague can hit the earth
1) God is a "jealous God" and he can be angered. the very common misconception that people have is that God is so meek and peaceful and shy and harmless. could not be further from the truth. Yes God is all of those things (minus shy) and more but God is also a God of Battle, a consuming fire. all he has to do is speak and destruction can fall upon man. tbc
sweetdietqueen 9 months ago
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...that is why we should "fear Him" but he only pours his wrath on those who provoke him. thus the drowning of the world in noah's time, the destruction of soddom and gomorha but he rarely even does it. if he did, d whole world would probably be a desert wasteland by now!
2) now for all other things "evil" in the world. the sickness, the diseases, a lot of natural disasters, poverty and yes bad breath lol are as a result of another being which im sure u've heard of....
sweetdietqueen 9 months ago
@sweetdietqueen
2)... it rhymes with "evil" ...the evil...d-evil....DEVIL aka satan, lucifer etc why is it that people forget about him? I mean every1 argues about whether or not God exists but no one ever mentions d devil? dont life itself teach us that with every protagonist, there always is an antagonist?
God protects his people from the wrath of the devil but when we curse him and hate him we r no longer under his umbrella of protection and we are vulnerable to attacks from the devil tbc
sweetdietqueen 9 months ago
@sweetdietqueen cont'd
u may ask
1) why is it that lots of aethist are not destroyed by the enemy. well u may consider this silly but if u are spreading the message of hate and doing evil in the world the devil would want u to be comfortable and powerful in the world so u can continue his evil message. why would he want u to be uncomfortable and risk u running to God for salvation?
2) u may also ask why do christians suffer. u probably know the story of Job. that explains it best
sweetdietqueen 9 months ago
@sweetdietqueen
anyway the difference with christians is that there is always deliverance. God takes care of his own but he is always going to test us to see where our loyalty lies
sweetdietqueen 9 months ago
Do you really think dying is a bad thing? it's natural, like being born
danielrrjd 10 months ago
@danielrrjd Something is neither good or bad because it's natural. I think dying is inevitable, and I think that all experience ends with death. Since I enjoy experiences, anything that would cause them to ceases would be a bad thing. I don't fear being dead, but I also don't look forward to dying.
azsuperman01 10 months ago
@azsuperman01 Since dying is natural, these events that have led to death of many people are meant to be and ultimately are not evil. Evil comes from man's heart, nothing from outside is evil.
"There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him...For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders...pride, foolishness: all these evil things come from within and defile the man" (Mk.7:15-23).
danielrrjd 10 months ago
@danielrrjd It would be difficult to be more wrong. That is the equivalent of saying that sex is natural, therefore rape is not evil. Everyone dies - that doesn't excuse anyone from responsibility if they are the cause of another's death. It also doesn't make an act causing the death of one (or millions) "good" or even amoral.
azsuperman01 10 months ago 2
@azsuperman01 Sex is a natural impulse that has been given from outside, so it's not evil at all. The thought of raping someone comes from within man's thinking. I'm not saying our society is good, because clearly there are a lot of flaws in it, like rape, and murder, selfishness, and ego...
Ego can be defined as being identified with one's opinion or belief in something. Identified meaning that if I stop believing in that, I'll feel diminished or as if I wasn't myself,
Read "A new earth"
danielrrjd 10 months ago
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@azsuperman01 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.
God is pleading with sinners, please let sin Go! Why do people insist on following satan to doom.
opengates777 6 months ago
@danielrrjd I would still be interested in seeing your answer to the actual question asked in the video -- What actions would you consider evil or immoral if committed by God?
azsuperman01 10 months ago 2
@azsuperman01 It could be considered evil to let us experience evil. But then again, if we wouldn't have experienced it, how do we know what is good? as everything in the universe has two poles, it's a law that doesn't have anything to do with religion.
A question for you: How do you know what is light if there wouldn't be darkness?
danielrrjd 10 months ago
@all the supposed evils described in the clip r the rest of man's sin and rebellion. The problem really is for the evolutionists as Dawkins affirms that evil does not exist...
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tigersforchrist 10 months ago
@JimmyDoom Yes, God punishes disobedience. You have to see the difference between killing, murder, of a fellow human being, without any reason or rights - and a just judgment executed by a higher power (like God or the God-ordained power). If we kill - or break His Law in other ways for that matter - like Sodom & C:O did, He will judge and punish us, in the end with death and Hell, which is completely just and righteous.
nilzor 11 months ago
@JimmyDoom God has not laid out any ethical convictions (Law) contrary to His nature. If we have such, e g that would lead us to blasphemy, they come from our evil flesh which is in rebellion against God, and yes, we should ignore them. We are responsible to keep God's Law. His judgments are righteous.
nilzor 11 months ago
You remind me of a two year old that tries to tell a air force pilot how to fly a plane. Your stupidity is showing.
RepresentingTruth 11 months ago
No actions could be "evil" if "commited by God. Everything God does is good, because He's the ultimate standard and Law. Without God you can't tell what's good or evil. Saying that God is evil is blasphemy and makes you evil. It is good and righteous of God to destroy evil sinful humans with death and disease and ultimately eternal suffering in Hell. God is the sovereign Creator and can do, and does whatever He wants with His own creation. Who is the creature to question its Creator? Rom 9:19-23
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Revelation 10:11 And they say to me(John), "You must prophesy again with regard to peoples and nations and tongues and many kings."
Is John one of the witnesses?
Check out my favs, especially the one about the stars found in the bible. Pics in those videos of the Sun Moon and Stars are authentic and the end time is drawing. The stars seem to be 11 then 12 and then definitely7. Check out these symbols and signs from heaven.
themiraclesonearth 11 months ago
OH NO! He created bad breath?! That's horribly evil of Him... XD
On a more serious note, I approve of you asking this (and your other) question/s. Thank, erm, God, I was born and raised non religiously.
mythical13 11 months ago
A TRUE QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT FORTH!
flightkiller09 1 year ago
Are humans good? No I wouldn't say we are. We constantly destroy things on earth. The only good things we do are fixing problems that we usually make. So if we are not good, then where is our entitlement to deem things good or bad?There are things that are good for us, which usually in turn makes things worse for everything else. So there has to be a balance. We must be wiped out every now and then so we don't destroy the planet that sustains life for us. I believe that is an adequate answer.
DaveLeech1989 1 year ago
I ask you this, Is there such a thing as cold? If your answer was yes you are wrong. For cold is just a lack of heat. Does darkness exist? No for it is just the absence of light. We can study light but not darkness. The actions of man lack righteousness. And that bring wickedness to this world. God did not create wickedness but man brought it into this world. :D
wertguy12000 1 year ago
@wertguy12000 If "evil" is just the "lack of God," in the same way that darkness is a "lack of light," then the phrase "God is Good" tells you absolutely nothing about his character. The phrase is completely meaningless.
azsuperman01 1 year ago
@wertguy12000 Well put! though I want to add that "Good" and "Evil" as WE know them are limited in our perspective, the more you look at the Bible the more see that God's standards of "Good" are incredibly higher than ours, also letting evil continue is allowing it to happen, at some point you have to draw the line and say enough, SOMETHING has to be done! It's a sort of paradox such a Sodom and Gommora, He could not restrain Himself any longer and could not let it go on, and WHAT happened?!?!
CommonSense1208 1 year ago
@CommonSense1208 If you are even slightly familiar with the Bible, then you know that if a human was convicted of even half of the actions attributed to God he would be considered the most evil person to have ever existed.
The more I read the Bible the more I realize that God's standards of "good" and "evil" are not higher than ours, they simply don't exist. That is why you have had such a hard time giving examples of actions which you would consider "evil" if God committed them.
azsuperman01 1 year ago
God has given us freewill because he loves us so. But man has abused it. God is a just God so He must brong justice to our sins. For example, Lets say God is the world's greatest judge and man was his son. Now let's say man commited armed robbery and God has to judge him. Sinc God is just he must bring justice. But intead of man having to burn, God has stepped down and taken the punishment for us.
wertguy12000 1 year ago
@wertguy12000 Taking the punishment for us is not "bringing justice."
azsuperman01 1 year ago
This God is evil idea is nothing new, but it is becuase of man and his choices that lead him into sin thats that causes God to see Justice done, people commit sins all the time and we downplay them or blame someone else (in this case God), we have free will and we CHOOSE TO SIN, its not that we unconsciously kill someone or steal or blasphemy, we CHOOSE to do so, YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW!
CommonSense1208 1 year ago
@CommonSense1208 I didn't say God was evil, I asked for examples of actions that would be evil if he committed them. Surely you can name some examples of how God would behave differently if he were evil?
azsuperman01 1 year ago
@azsuperman01 Alright, if God were legitimately "Evil" how would He behave, well... He certainly WOULDN'T send Jesus to die for our sake, but I honestly can't bring myself to actually say anything about God acting "evil", I would be descirbing Satan or psychotic dictators like Hitler or Stalin, or an Antichrist figure who would grip the world in his tyranny and kill billions with disease, but for God to do something "Evil" he would need only to do nothing and let us destroy ourselves in our sin.
CommonSense1208 1 year ago
@CommonSense1208 The only difference you would recognize between a "good" God and a hypothetical "evil" God is that the "evil" God would not have tortured his son for crimes he didn't commit? (Obviously, if the Bible is true, God has gripped the world in his tyranny and killed billions with disease, it is strange that you would choose these two as examples of "evil.")
azsuperman01 1 year ago
@azsuperman01 You're forgetting the Jesus' whole purpose! He was sent to die for us, to furfill the prophecies in Isaiah and other books, and we he went willingly, He brought the new law into the world and lived a life no sinful human could ever hope to match. For Him to send His son (or a piece of Himself as I interpret it) to take our punishment for our sake, why? if he were evil that would make no sense! he created a way to satisfy his system of justice while saving us, THIS is an evil God?
CommonSense1208 1 year ago
@CommonSense1208 I'm not calling him evil, I'm just asking what action YOU would consider evil if he were to commit it. I find it odd that the ONLY difference you can come up with between a "good" God and an "evil" God is that your "good" God created a system by which everyone was born guilty and pre-sentenced to eternal torture, then the "good" God tortured himself/his son (for crimes he didn't commit) in order to convince himself to allow a few people to avoid the fate they were born into.
azsuperman01 1 year ago
@azsuperman01 Whether you're calling him an "evil" God or a God who does evil things it's all the same, if He were to DO NOTHING while people sinned and sinned and He let it go on, THAT would be evil because He would be allowing it to continue when He could stop it, like if a cop just watched while a woman was raped and the cop walked away, God doesn't take any pleasure from bringing down judgment but He HAS to draw the line at some point, then He makes examples of them as a warning to US
CommonSense1208 1 year ago
@CommonSense1208 I haven't called God evil, or said he does evil things. I simply asked what actions YOU would consider evil if God committed them. You are the one who said there is no difference between a "good" God and an "evil" God except that an evil God wouldn't have tortured an innocent man in order to convince himself to forgive a few people. (If he exists, your most recent example of watching as a woman gets raped is repeated by God on a daily basis, with no intervention.)
azsuperman01 1 year ago
@CommonSense1208 This really shouldn't be a difficult question. The more you describe a hypothetical "evil" God, the more I wonder if you are intentionally trying to define YOUR God as evil.
azsuperman01 1 year ago
@azsuperman01 WOW!!! I must SUCK at explaining things if that's what your getting, let me clarify: I'm saying that these times in the Bible when he's brought destruction and plagues and such its because Man would not listen, they clung to their Sin and God punished them for it, they brought it down on themselves, God intervenes ALOT more than you might think, just because you don't "see" it doesn't mean he isn't doing something, for me I've have too many "cooincidences" to say "there is no God"!
CommonSense1208 1 year ago
@CommonSense1208 Nope, looks like you're communicating just fine. The destruction and plagues could be described (using your words) by saying during that time God would "grip the world in his tyranny and kill billions with disease." Also, are you denying that God daily "just watches while women are raped," that he "allows it to continue when He could stop it." As I said, it appears you are TRYING to define your God as evil.
azsuperman01 1 year ago
@CommonSense1208 According to you, the only difference between a "good" God and an "evil" God is that an "evil" God would not have tortured an innocent man in order to convince himself to forgive guilty people. Frankly that seems like an odd distinction - especially since your "good" God appears to commit a lot of actions YOU have defined as "evil." If the majority of God's actions are "evil" (according to your definition) and he has only done one "good" thing, why do you still call him good?
azsuperman01 1 year ago
@azsuperman01 You are a very difficult person, do you know that? What part of "Jesus died for us" do you not understand? That was half of His entire purpose! (the other half being to furfill the prophecies in the Old Testament) By dying on the cross He created a way to save US from our sins, it makes no sense for an "evil" God to keep trying to turn people away from sin and pursue such a course at his own expense, and i've said repeatedly he does things behind the scenes, not NOTHING!
CommonSense1208 1 year ago
@CommonSense1208 I understand that Jesus died for us. God created a system by which every human is guilty of not being God and he set the punishment for not being God as eternal torture. Then God decided the only way he could forgive any humans for not being HIM was if he impregnated a teenage girl with himself, made a human out of himself, and then killed it.
azsuperman01 1 year ago
@azsuperman01 Wow! That's uh an interesting way of looking at the Crucifixition and the Birth of Christ, I find it hard to believe you were EVER a Christian! You and I are truly opposites, you were a Mormon who turned Atheist and I'm an Agnostic who turned Christian, since four years ago I've noticed myself changing on the inside, my friends have noticed that I cuss much, much less (and I'll tell you I cursed more than ANYONE you can think of!) even I!! found God's light, what happened to you??
CommonSense1208 1 year ago
@CommonSense1208 It may be "interesting" but it's also true... assuming the Bible is true.
azsuperman01 1 year ago
@azsuperman01 I am getting rather tired of trying to explain to you that MAN is responisble for his OWN SIns and God has been more than patient trying to get people to turn around, he respects our freewill and tries to work with us. I saw your video on "freewill" so I already know how you feel about it but the simple fact is we have "freewill" because God wants us to CHOOSE GOOD and CHOOSE to follow Him, if we Don't want to do that then we suffer in our sins in this world that WE created!
CommonSense1208 1 year ago
@CommonSense1208 You didn't answer the question... If the cop "watched patiently" as the rapist violated the woman, and waited for him to "turn around," would that make his failure to intervene less evil? What if he watched the rapist violate multiple women for 70-80 years, then - when he was too old and weak to rape anyone ever again - the police offer sent the rapist to jail -- would his actions be "good" or "evil"?
azsuperman01 1 year ago
@azsuperman01 You're right, I've been avoiding that question because I wasn't sure how to answer it, but I do now. Yes women are raped on a daily basis and yes it would be disgusting for a cop to just stand by and let it happen, but for God to watch and do nothing about it, my answer is... YES that would be "evil", BUT as I said, God works behind a veil, we do not see Him guiding the investigation to the rapist and in the end He will see justice done, I have faith in that, that's my answer!
CommonSense1208 1 year ago
@CommonSense1208 So... it's "evil" for a cop sit by and watch a woman get raped when he has the ability to intervene, but it's NOT evil for an all-powerful God to sit by and watch hundreds of women get raped because... sometimes the rapist is eventually caught? Why is the standard of morality you use to define "good" and "evil" actions for God so much LOWER than the standard you use for humans?
azsuperman01 1 year ago
@azsuperman01 Iknew you'd say something like that, so I'm ready for you this time. Think about this, how precisely would God intervene directly, would He kill the rapist right there with a heart attack like Kira does on Death Note? (interesting anime, Kira's an antihero), if criminals and scum dropped dead like mad around the world constantly, then that would be killing even more people, gripping the world in fear as Kira does and would destroy any sense of faith in Him! Would that be justice?!
CommonSense1208 1 year ago
@CommonSense1208 You've limited an "all-powerful" God to 2 options: 1) Do nothing, or 2) Kill people. Why wouldn't you assume he would have at least as many options as the hypothetical police officer? -- not to mention all the super-natural options the cop wouldn't have available? You must not think much of your God or of his abilities.
azsuperman01 1 year ago
@azsuperman01 I want to you know something, I don't have anything against you personally, actually I really appreciate that you are a fairly reasonable and respectful person, I think one of the reasons you make these "Tough Questions" is get answers for the questions that you yourself have. You're also a quicker wit and a better debater than I am. I have to admit I have questions myself, but I've decided I should better understand the scripture myself before I debate people like you.
CommonSense1208 1 year ago
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DaveLeech1989 1 year ago