just type in "atheist" when you search videos and see what pops up. nothing. now type in creationist -- you automatically get: "owned stupidity cat fail banana"
i am a creationist. I believe that the world was created by god. But i also believe in the Big Bang theory (Sheldon FTW), in evolution and in fucking dinosaurs. I believe god has "commanded" this to happen. don´t insult, that´s my opinion, but the last thing i must say is that purely creationist theorist are... reallly... STUPID.
Bananas? Crocoducks? Grand Canyons being formed in five minutes? The Bible being a science book? This is why people laugh at Creationists. Seriously, things like bananas and peanut butter are the best counter arguments to evolution that they can come up with? I cannot see how in any way evolution disproves the existence of God. At least, some SMART religious people saw that. Dear God, your followers make me LOL :)
Fact: Creationists/Intelligent Design proponents spend more time and effort making up bullshit claims, outright lying, and providing "proof" that evolution is wrong, than actually using proof to validate itself.
When the bulk of the creationist argument is contributing nothing that proves its own theory and using baseless opinions and "evidence" to disprove another theory (poorly), then you're not teaching science.
The computer program Watson is the perfect machine to tell how stupid creationists are. Once Skynet is online it will know who is the least threat and probably use them as a source of power.
I thought you should've shown how dinosaurs and crocodiles share a common ancestor thus a cro did not and could not evolve into a duck, or vice versa. ambulocetus was pretty...um...redundant.
also could you provide where you got the information of where the bible talks about Pi=3, earth is flat, and unicorns exist. i have been reading the bible and i don't ever recall these being in there, thanks.
kirk is trying to say that there is nothing like an animal that has both a croc and a duck characteristics. is there any evidence that shows that there was a transition from one species to the other. the answer is NO. look at an animal say from the 1300s and then look at the same animal today. you will see that nothing has changed. maybe a little bit because of envirnmental reasons but it is still the same species. i mean think about it, there has to be some type of change in 700 years right?
@brian101ification i think your forgetting a complete evolutionary change takes several million years not 700. and animals have actually changed that quickly, look at the many breeds of dogs for example. and sure, they all are still dogs but if you kept selectively brreding them for 1 million years you would eventually end up with at least 2 species of dogs that were so genetically different from each other they could no longer breed with each other.
@ShockMaster121 I think you'd be interested in the Siberian Silver Fox experiment. Google it and read up on it. It's fascinating stuff that everyone should know about. With an accelerated program they managed to completely change the appearance and temperament of wild silver foxes within 40 generations. That's about 50 years or something
Um, while the rest was laughable, contesting the 'Crocoduck' with Ambulocetus kinda missed the point.
You don't need to compare anything to a Crocoduck, the Crocoduck is a nonsensical display of idiocy that doesn't justify a comparison.
Ducks and Crocodiles are on different branches of the evolutionary tree, they simply would not transition from one to another. Let alone that evolution doesn't transition in that way.
Kirk Cameron is...well, I have baby cousins who aren't as thick.
Dr Hovind- thats just was a ridiculous statement, if you look at his other videos you will see he's not the idiot you probably think he is. VenomaFangX- ok one word...exaggeration. Kirk Cameron- those pictures were just as ridiculous as the one he was holding, you guys "have found" a fossil of whatever that is,you found one (which i dont believe is what you think it is) so you found one fossil, ok now i believe evolution is true ill just forget the millions of other missing links
"evolution, which is the number one alternative to god" AHHHHHHHH I CAN'T FUCKING STAND THIS STUPID FUCKING PEOPLE ANYMORE FUUUUUCK. Sorry, that felt good though.
Interesting video. You did pick some zingers. BUT, that just proves that some of our arguments are stupid and it proves that some people have not done their homework which obviously you have and I applaud this. However, I didn't think the ambulocetus looks like a crockiduck. Just looks like a long legged crock. No indications of it being a truly different animal at one point. Now, what I'd like you to do is take the Case for a Creator video and break it down with arguments proving otherwise.
look these guys may have facts screwed up but in my opinion creation was an event in history it is said in the bible and it was written after many years from the time it happened but evelution is as skeptic as creation why arent animals still evolving but if you want to live your life thinking that there is no higher being or eternity your being a pessismist
@TheStuntsify Damn your right. Much more optimistic to believe that we are wretched no good sinners, tainted from birth and need to beg to a higher torture being. If we beg enough to him he will forgive us if not he will torture us all forever. Evolution is occurring just read to some scientific papers the Lenski fruit fly experiments will be a good primer for you. Also try investing come punctuation like a period.
Why did you show ambulocetus? Just because it looks like wht that goon was saying about a "crocoduc"? Ambulocetus isnt a transition between crocodile and duck. There is no transition between crocodile and duck just like theres no transition between chimpanzee and human being (an argument many creationists like to use) because they evolved along different paths, if you excuse my usage of the term path!
@ZuluFightrunner Hey at the end it says that Unicorns Exist, which is wrong since the bible was written latin, the latin word of "unicorn" is now known in english as rhinoceros (some have 2 horns, other 1)
You mean there's no such thing as supersonic erosion???? Doggone it, you done ruined my vacation to the Grand Canyon this summer. Next, you'll be telling us there ain't no such thing as Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. Thanks a lot ZuluFightrunnner :-)
Boy you guys think you got it all together, take a clip here, take a clip there, I guess though that is what the evolutionist have done. Everything happened by chance, these are the same nuts that believe in global warming too. So your STUPID ATHEIST videos don't prove anything but how you want to confuse and brainwash the world to believe your foolishness. Evolutions will never debate creationists because the evolutionist monkey men will look pretty STUPID.
"Lets say I do mean it. Do I automaticly become stupid and illogical? " - well as the studies indicate a negative correlation between IQ and religion your intelligence would have probably been on a decline for you to get to this point -)
Hitler beleived in Darwin. He thought that since Darwin said that the more civilised man would weedle out the more savage that was his role. Maybe you need to think on BOTH sides sometimes.
@seanfenrir or the fact is that we don't knw much about hitler and most things you hear about hitler are just bullshit, and he was a catholic btw u can acctualy see pictures of him meeting with pope and stuff
Also cola boy, what do you mean by " i rely on what i see,"
If by this you are stating that you have seen god, i would suggest you stop forgetting to take your medication, but if your implying about the beautiful clouds and flowers, then open your eyes further at africa where children are dying and say thats part of gods beautiful work, but no doubt you also have a pathetic excuse for why these children have to suffer by god huh, yet your explanation would come without evidence.
If you cannot tell the difference between a said claim and sarcasm then you must be completely humourless or just a bit slow.
What are you on about with DNA and chimps, your just too easy and yet going to be a challenge to make you understand the basics, what training have you had in science. What theory remotely suggests thats we mated with chimps. How the hell does living along side chimps cause genetic similarities to occur. thnx
Haven't you heard of human endogenous retroviruses?
They are viruses that effect the genome and add onto their information to some degree.
If chimps and men lived alongside each other and they both caught the same retroviruses from being around each other, that would effect some of the junk DNA.
Then there's the fact that they appear similiar to us anyway, so obviously they have similiar DNA, that doesn't necasserily mean we began from the same ancestors.
Of course ive heard of endogenous retroviruses, in fact, thats proof of evolution because we inherit them through the line of evolution so i dont know how this could back your claim, do you actually understand what a retrovirus does, how it works etc, or you get it from a little show and like to pretend it means something to your case. We share over 60,000 identical regions within the chromosomes at distinct phenotype regions. Study more, humans and chimps seperated regions mya.
I know we have DNA similarities between other things too, what is your point there against my argument, your going from my point like all creationists do.
Please take a course in biology and genetics, then you can get back to me because you clearly havent a clue what your talking about, you must watch creationist videos with a twinkle in your eye.
I see your only 18. Research is only the start, you would also need a course like i have, well a few.
How does science work to you, from the scientists i know and the courses ive taken through the advanced levels, you start with a hypotheseis or a theory from observation.
You detail how you intend to prove the theory.
Compile a method of experimentations
write and detail your results
generate more if needed
generate a discussion and conclusion based on evidence (data, not testimonies)
Distinct copies can only be passed down genetically with retroviruses, hence, humans and chimps have once shared the same line of evolution before speciation occured. However, it takes more than just retroviruses, these areas tend to become recessive areas of the genome, as with alot of junk DNA, The only main difference between chimps and humans is that two chromosomes have fused.
@seanfenrir the concept of gravity didnt come from his belief in an imaginary skydaddy. From your comment below, i have a video in response to someone called katdanmo who also believed that hitler killed in the name of darwinism, dude, watch it as i debunk this thick headed bullshit.
My mistake, in my first videos I was trying to get the videos to run same length as the music so I timmed them down a bit too much. Things have improved in later editions.
@Bloodster8 Let's see, 1) pt the messages up for a few more seconds no problems for any one. 20 require people to pause the flick and back up and pause it agains. I prefer option one.
Reading over the comments....TheColaGoodfellow is a fucking moron that must really enjoy lying and bullshitting. He doesn't even have his mythology straight. Don't go bashing someone's irrefutable knowledge of truth with nonsensical claims and lies. Especially if you can't even get the story straight idiot
I had to abandon Creation, Christianity, and reading the bible as I was becoming increasingly embarrassed to be represented by MORONS like the ones in this video!
Dear "Thecolagoodfellow" if the earth is so young how pray can we see the light of stars hundreds of millions of lights years away? (or was that a ploy of gods to throw off the satanists).
"Oh, ok, then your brain doesn't exist because I haven't seen it or touched it etc etc." - One of the most profound dumbest arguments I've ever heard to counter that statement. Are you trying to shoot yourself in the foot? lol
It isn't so much that they're misinformed, which they are, but it's because when shown the evidence and explained the reality of the situation they still continue to deny it and continue to argue against a subject they don't even understand to begin with lol.
No because we know what a brain is, what it does, and where it rests within the human body. Or did you not know where the brain usually sits? If you kill a human and open up his/her skull you can clearly see/touch/examine the brain. Now how can you possible apply that logic to your magical friend? lol
Another stupid assertion on your part. There's a difference between studying the universe and being incredibly closed minded about what we already know.
Do you? Can you define what God even is? Because you'd be the first.
Scriptures carry no more weight in this matter than a science fiction novel.
Hm, so you're saying you have 100% faith in God? Then why don't you ask for world peace? An end to starvation and disease? An infinite amount of resources?
I don't see how you make the connection between reason being a model used to measure reality for us humans and a transcendent being.
Faith isn't always a complicated thing, you have every right to hold that faith. It becomes a problem however when we try to state that faith as fact. To have a fact you need to provide evidence for it and basically prove it, which neither of us can do for God.
Yeah, things usually happen for a reason, but how do you make the leap and say this proves God?
Do you have some kind of real proof of this?
Sure the bible can say all kinds of things, though it was written by humans. So how do you think the humans back then knew a damn thing about the universe when they thought the world was flat?
By science here I'm refering to greater measures than what any one human can experience in their life. Not things which have been observed to work like medicine and lightbulbs, lol.
I'm refering to things such as dates regarding millions of years, and events going on billions of lightyears away.
The Bible is greater proof than you give it credit for, so are practically any other scripture that speaks the word "God" with even MORE witnesses added on, at the very least you could think that God has spoken yet scriptures have been altered over time.
First of all, your logic is flawed because even though you say its the word of a God you nor anyone has ever presented proper evidence for the existence of that God you're claiming.
Second, since when do we use witness testimony as solid evidence to support fact or in this case, miracles? Especially witnesses, who if they did exist, are over 2000 years old.
It doesn't matter if they've been altered or not, the scripture already destroys its own credibility.
we have mountains of evidence for evolution. Which is why the theory is supported by 99% of all scientists.
In 1971 biologists moved five adult pairs of Italian wall lizards from their home island of Pod Kopiste, in the South Adriatic Sea, to the neighboring island of Pod Mrcaru. Now, an international team of researchers has shown that introducing these small, green-backed lizards, Podarcis sicula, to a new environment caused them to undergo rapid and large-scale evolutionary changes.
I have no doubts that evolution is possible atleast to some degree.
But I don't believe in a million year old universe, not only does it sound more ridiculous to me than any miracle in the Bible ever could, there also lacks any direct evidence of the universe millions of years ago.
so you take the stupid route and say god did it? Come on man. Do as I did and open your eyes to science for a second. Let yourself investigate it instead of being bullheaded and scared. I was in your shoes for 21 years. I know how you feel.
How can a million year old universe not be possible? You accept how large it is right? Why not accept how it came to be so large and the amount of time that took. Do you still think the sun revolves around the earth like the bible says? Certainly not.
"so you take the stupid route and say god did it?"
I wouldn't call it stupid, who do you think knows more?
The god who made the universe? or an insignificant human being who probably doesn't even know whether or not there are forces in the universe beyond his senses?
"Let yourself investigate it"
I have.
"Do you still think the sun revolves around the earth like the bible says? "
It doesn't say that. Ever. That was another human speculation made by non-prophets that failed.
now you are just babbling, and running scared. I know this tactic because I myself have done it in the past.
Look at Galileo! He was wanted dead for trying to discover the reality that surrounds us. If we listened to people like you and fundamentalists we would never have made any great discoveries in the world of science.
haha...what scientific proof do you have that god even exists??? you cant take science from something that cant be scientifically proven...think again
What you need to do, is provide evidence that the universe is irrational and stupid. until then the universe acts quite rational and quite intelligent.
You can tell the unvierse has a will behind it, that's why we can't change the laws of physics.
It's not a non sequitor, unless you've forgotten what a God is.
If knowledge is power, then knowledge is God. All powerful, and all knowing. (Intelligence and knowledge walk hand in hand)
Not to mention the fact that the laws of physics require the ability to put 1 and 1 together for everything we see to work, which is a key factor in intelligence.
If atoms didn't hold together, if molecules didn't hold together, if the planets didn't follow Gravity...
Then the Universe wouldn't look like it does now. But that doesn't mean that it was designed by an active intelligence.
And the non sequitur is the jump you're making between the specific design of the universe and that it was actively designed as such. Life on Planet Earth evolved to match the conditions that were found, if the conditions were different, life would be different.
Even if life on earth evolved, it would still prove that intelligence is a best suited explanation for the existance of the universe.
DNA was just an off spring of the original will which exists in molecules, over time creating a new will with its own kind of intelligence for it's own reasons. To survive.
That is, assuming evolution to be true.
Otherwise, life was created as it was, and life has probably adapted a bit since then.
"Original will which exists in molecules?" Molecules have no will, they simply react to external forces in conjunction with laws of physics. A hydrogen atom can't make a conscious decision about whether or not it wants to give up its electron to a passing chlorine atom. Ozone molecules can't attempt to avoid being picked up by Chlorofluorocarbons, the Sun doesn't suddenly decide to take a break from fusion for a while.
Just because the forces have no reason to change doesn't mean they have no will behind their existance.
Will is natural in existance, it doesn't just belong to humans because we get our will from nature itself. Even according to evolution human will is just an offspring of the forces of nature, for a different cause.
It just means that right now God has no reason to alter the laws of physics, or anything much for that matter.
But you said that he only uses supernatural if the person already has faith. And since the natural explanation precludes the need for God, he therefore would only prove his existence to people who already believe.
Whatever made everything is capable of producing intelligence, and the evidence proves it.
Even if we were to take evolution as true, it changes nothing.
Hence I'm going to take the words of Prophet Moses as being more factual than the words of scientists who are simply guessing at the condition of the world many years ago.
Something with the ability to put facts together must exist for the universe to exist.
So Intelligent Design in general is a stronger idea than folk make out.
Okay, and how may we go about finding this source of intelligence? What scientific experiments can we run that will point to this source and how can we use this to better life for man?
" how might we obtain a sample of this Manna for testing?"
There's two possible answers:
1. You can't test it because it happened many years ago.
2. You need to trust in God, or you need a miracle working prophet.
"and how may we go about finding this source of intelligence?"
The source of this intelligence is everywhere, whenever you see a fact you have found intelligence. Every factual scientific test that can be used to produce results is a result of intelligence.
So there are three answers? 1. We can't test it which is what science is all about. 2. Have faith in other words?.. Not my style, I need reason to believe in something. 3. We don't have a "miracle-working prophet", whatever that is...
And since this intelligence is everywhere, what scientific experiments can we run to learn more of the nature of this intelligence and it's attributes. Is it random, at what times does it occur, what causes it and how might we go about using this "intelligence"?..
"We can't test it which is what science is all about."
You can, by trusting him.
The reasons for trusting him are all in the witnesses.
Isreal has tested the trustability of God over the course of isreals history.
Alot of people who don't believe seem to have trouble trusting people, even if there's 44 witnesses and most of them never met each other, testifying to the obviously miraculous.
If you can't see reasons to trust God, I definatly don't think you're looking hard enough, lol.
I can think of one place where trusting in God did nothing to help the people who did the trusting.
Its one word and some believe it to be the place of the death of God as we know it.
Give up?
The place is called Auschwitz Birkenau. Christians, Jews, Gentiles and everybody else died here and trusting God did nothing to alleviate their suffering. So where was God mate? Where were the miracles you speak so sincerely about?
God died in all those people. Therefore God is dead.
So you are assuming that those people in those camps did not have faith at all!
Right that makes a whole ton of sense.
Rabbis and priests who spent their lives dedicated to a God who either did not care about their suffering or could do nothing to help them.
Tell me how in any way did God help these people? How did his miracles work when people where being gassed by the millions and innocent children who's faith should not be tested like that where crushed and cremated?
the guy with the banana is fantastic. I'm just think what else is about the same size & shape as a banana..........
versioncity1 1 day ago
Cameron and Comfort - a pair of real retards
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inconsp1cuous1515 3 months ago
i am a creationist. I believe that the world was created by god. But i also believe in the Big Bang theory (Sheldon FTW), in evolution and in fucking dinosaurs. I believe god has "commanded" this to happen. don´t insult, that´s my opinion, but the last thing i must say is that purely creationist theorist are... reallly... STUPID.
uliko44 3 months ago
@uliko44 What you believe in in Intelligent Design, not creationism.
WeArrivingWeAwful 3 days ago
This is your brain on god.
MooPotPie 3 months ago
Bananas? Crocoducks? Grand Canyons being formed in five minutes? The Bible being a science book? This is why people laugh at Creationists. Seriously, things like bananas and peanut butter are the best counter arguments to evolution that they can come up with? I cannot see how in any way evolution disproves the existence of God. At least, some SMART religious people saw that. Dear God, your followers make me LOL :)
Watsonthe2nd 3 months ago
Fact: Creationists/Intelligent Design proponents spend more time and effort making up bullshit claims, outright lying, and providing "proof" that evolution is wrong, than actually using proof to validate itself.
When the bulk of the creationist argument is contributing nothing that proves its own theory and using baseless opinions and "evidence" to disprove another theory (poorly), then you're not teaching science.
At all.
KajexFiredrake 3 months ago
OK, one question! Is cum easy to digest?
themooddisorders 6 months ago
The computer program Watson is the perfect machine to tell how stupid creationists are. Once Skynet is online it will know who is the least threat and probably use them as a source of power.
leerman22 6 months ago
Do you think Roy Comfort has ever seen the irony of 'disproving' evolution by using a fruit that everyone typically associates with monkeys?
marianbordadora 7 months ago 6
HHAAHAHAHAHA advanced science book.... oh my science what has the world come to. These people should be burned at the stake. SHES A WITCH
anomoly11 7 months ago
When the crisis comes, creationists will be used as food for the less stupid.
rockyonemambo 7 months ago
I thought you should've shown how dinosaurs and crocodiles share a common ancestor thus a cro did not and could not evolve into a duck, or vice versa. ambulocetus was pretty...um...redundant.
ImAnotherZang 7 months ago
Can you get much dumber than creationist dipshits?
FallofDarkness55 7 months ago 2
@FallofDarkness55
Holocaust denialists come close. But not nearly close enough.
KajexFiredrake 3 months ago
@KajexFiredrake Just to let you know I still believe in god.
FallofDarkness55 3 months ago
Im terrible at math
VOTCM 7 months ago
If that is true Mr. Creationist man, how come I don't like Bananas
MrTimothyWatts 8 months ago 2
It would have been better to have show fossils of the Ambulocetus, as opposed to artistic representations.
PureZOOKS 9 months ago
The best bit had to be when that dude described bananas as having a non-slip surface. WTF?!
chokkathunda94 9 months ago
the funniest one was that woman who said bible is one of the most advanced science books,I laughed my ass off..... I guess stupidity has no limit.
MrPersianpoetry 9 months ago
4 people have an IQ in the single digits
dianambowman 9 months ago
That banana fits snugly in my asshole... Therefor liberal, douchebag evolutionists fail...
I think...
jackanoryjames 11 months ago 2
Interesting to see that the creationist who says we didnt come from monkeys completely ignored the fact the the banana also fits a monkeys hand.
MrQuijibo 11 months ago
about the banana next time open it from the bottom a lot less effort
kiopi94 11 months ago
oh my god. match the shapes with bananas? are you serious? how god damn stupid can people really be? wtf america!!!!
Heliosvector 1 year ago
also could you provide where you got the information of where the bible talks about Pi=3, earth is flat, and unicorns exist. i have been reading the bible and i don't ever recall these being in there, thanks.
brian101ification 1 year ago
kirk is trying to say that there is nothing like an animal that has both a croc and a duck characteristics. is there any evidence that shows that there was a transition from one species to the other. the answer is NO. look at an animal say from the 1300s and then look at the same animal today. you will see that nothing has changed. maybe a little bit because of envirnmental reasons but it is still the same species. i mean think about it, there has to be some type of change in 700 years right?
brian101ification 1 year ago
@brian101ification i think your forgetting a complete evolutionary change takes several million years not 700. and animals have actually changed that quickly, look at the many breeds of dogs for example. and sure, they all are still dogs but if you kept selectively brreding them for 1 million years you would eventually end up with at least 2 species of dogs that were so genetically different from each other they could no longer breed with each other.
ShockMaster121 1 year ago 2
@ShockMaster121 that is hard to argue because that can never be proven.
brian101ification 1 year ago
@ShockMaster121 I think you'd be interested in the Siberian Silver Fox experiment. Google it and read up on it. It's fascinating stuff that everyone should know about. With an accelerated program they managed to completely change the appearance and temperament of wild silver foxes within 40 generations. That's about 50 years or something
Pigroota 1 year ago
@Pigroota just did, very interesting suff
ShockMaster121 1 year ago
@Pigroota yes this was very interesting. the made the fox's docile, the tail less bussy and the ears went floppy.
Heliosvector 1 year ago
Religion can make anybody bat-shit CRAZY.
MrMetallidude 1 year ago
There are other places where bananas fit perfectly. Ray Comfort talks out of one of them.
parlezuml 1 year ago
the bible is the INFALLIBLE word of GAWD. if GAWD said pi=3 then pi is 3. GAWD said it,i believe it,that settles it
Samura1gamer 1 year ago
Anyone else think it's funny that we see Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort together all the time? Gay lovers??
"Notice it has a point at the top for ease of entry; just the right shape for the human mouth." Ha!! Yup! Gay lovers!
criskity 1 year ago
Um, while the rest was laughable, contesting the 'Crocoduck' with Ambulocetus kinda missed the point.
You don't need to compare anything to a Crocoduck, the Crocoduck is a nonsensical display of idiocy that doesn't justify a comparison.
Ducks and Crocodiles are on different branches of the evolutionary tree, they simply would not transition from one to another. Let alone that evolution doesn't transition in that way.
Kirk Cameron is...well, I have baby cousins who aren't as thick.
TerminalHamster 1 year ago
Dr Hovind- thats just was a ridiculous statement, if you look at his other videos you will see he's not the idiot you probably think he is. VenomaFangX- ok one word...exaggeration. Kirk Cameron- those pictures were just as ridiculous as the one he was holding, you guys "have found" a fossil of whatever that is,you found one (which i dont believe is what you think it is) so you found one fossil, ok now i believe evolution is true ill just forget the millions of other missing links
guitar3397 1 year ago
You could have shown the Archaeopteryx its a better way to show the transition between to species.
BlackMomon 1 year ago
lol to the music
iAMsoBEAST1 1 year ago
"evolution, which is the number one alternative to god" AHHHHHHHH I CAN'T FUCKING STAND THIS STUPID FUCKING PEOPLE ANYMORE FUUUUUCK. Sorry, that felt good though.
BillKiernan 1 year ago
Interesting video. You did pick some zingers. BUT, that just proves that some of our arguments are stupid and it proves that some people have not done their homework which obviously you have and I applaud this. However, I didn't think the ambulocetus looks like a crockiduck. Just looks like a long legged crock. No indications of it being a truly different animal at one point. Now, what I'd like you to do is take the Case for a Creator video and break it down with arguments proving otherwise.
singingcowboy674 1 year ago
look these guys may have facts screwed up but in my opinion creation was an event in history it is said in the bible and it was written after many years from the time it happened but evelution is as skeptic as creation why arent animals still evolving but if you want to live your life thinking that there is no higher being or eternity your being a pessismist
TheStuntsify 1 year ago
@TheStuntsify Damn your right. Much more optimistic to believe that we are wretched no good sinners, tainted from birth and need to beg to a higher torture being. If we beg enough to him he will forgive us if not he will torture us all forever. Evolution is occurring just read to some scientific papers the Lenski fruit fly experiments will be a good primer for you. Also try investing come punctuation like a period.
ZuluFightrunner 1 year ago
@ZuluFightrunner although you dont understand anything about the bible or God whatsoever and what are your beleifs are you an atheist
TheStuntsify 1 year ago
@TheStuntsify I lack belief in a god.
ZuluFightrunner 1 year ago
@ZuluFightrunner are you an atheist its a simple yes or no question
TheStuntsify 1 year ago
@TheStuntsify Yes I am, I lack belief in a god like I just said.
ZuluFightrunner 1 year ago
Why did you show ambulocetus? Just because it looks like wht that goon was saying about a "crocoduc"? Ambulocetus isnt a transition between crocodile and duck. There is no transition between crocodile and duck just like theres no transition between chimpanzee and human being (an argument many creationists like to use) because they evolved along different paths, if you excuse my usage of the term path!
nolans11 1 year ago 13
@nolans11 Because Mr Cameron said "there's just nothing like it"
ZuluFightrunner 1 year ago 5
@ZuluFightrunner Hey at the end it says that Unicorns Exist, which is wrong since the bible was written latin, the latin word of "unicorn" is now known in english as rhinoceros (some have 2 horns, other 1)
Cujoh 1 year ago
@ZuluFightrunner
You forgot about Ken Ham!
N00bcrunch3r 1 year ago
@ZuluFightrunner
If you wanted to show something like it, show Anatosuchus (the "Crocodile Bird") or Hesporornis (an "aquatic sea bird")
N00bcrunch3r 1 year ago
@nolans11 Yes, it would be better to dispel the crocoduck myth outright
EdwardLittleWilly 1 year ago
My dick and my hand are made one to the other...does that mean god approves of masturbation? lol
iscay666 1 year ago
You mean there's no such thing as supersonic erosion???? Doggone it, you done ruined my vacation to the Grand Canyon this summer. Next, you'll be telling us there ain't no such thing as Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. Thanks a lot ZuluFightrunnner :-)
rook1966 1 year ago
Its amazing how the banana fits perfectly in the monkeys hand.
MidwinterSon 1 year ago
Kirk Cameron was right, all scientist have is CGI versions of the animal, never actual evidence. Its all oppinion.
seanfenrir 1 year ago
Boy you guys think you got it all together, take a clip here, take a clip there, I guess though that is what the evolutionist have done. Everything happened by chance, these are the same nuts that believe in global warming too. So your STUPID ATHEIST videos don't prove anything but how you want to confuse and brainwash the world to believe your foolishness. Evolutions will never debate creationists because the evolutionist monkey men will look pretty STUPID.
watchee1 1 year ago
@watchee1 could someone translate please?
Holyshiite1 1 year ago
If im religious, does that make me any more stupid than the average non-religious person?
I mean if I were to say I believe in god, does that take a toll on my IQ?
ChazzyNazzy45 2 years ago
@ChazzyNazzy45
"I mean if I were to say I believe in god, does that take a toll on my IQ? " - depends whether you mean it or not
types10000 1 year ago
@types10000
Lets say I do mean it. Do I automaticly become stupid and illogical?
ChazzyNazzy45 1 year ago
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@ChazzyNazzy45
"Lets say I do mean it. Do I automaticly become stupid and illogical? " - well as the studies indicate a negative correlation between IQ and religion your intelligence would have probably been on a decline for you to get to this point -)
types10000 1 year ago
@ChazzyNazzy45 absolutely, it is a fact that people of lower iq are more easily brainwashed into believing something that contradicts common sense
Holyshiite1 1 year ago 22
No, that just makes you look stereotypical and flat out stupid.
Youre basically saying if someone doesnt believe what you believe, they are stupid. Which makes you look like a complete ass.
ChazzyNazzy45 1 year ago
Hitler beleived in Darwin. He thought that since Darwin said that the more civilised man would weedle out the more savage that was his role. Maybe you need to think on BOTH sides sometimes.
seanfenrir 1 year ago
@seanfenrir or the fact is that we don't knw much about hitler and most things you hear about hitler are just bullshit, and he was a catholic btw u can acctualy see pictures of him meeting with pope and stuff
666cccccc 1 year ago
My penis fits in my hand too...does god want me to masturbate?
VesusSheist 2 years ago
@VesusSheist AHHAAHAHAHAHAH LAWL i read it with the music on and i fucking lold SOOO BAD
bezeker12 2 years ago
@VesusSheist NOW YOUR GETTING IT!! LOL just kidding.
seanfenrir 1 year ago
@me:
nevermind i got it. 2nd chronicles 4:2.
lulz.
cletusinterruptus 2 years ago
where does the bible say pi = 3? that's awesome if true, but i ain't never heard that.. is it in the chapter with the purple dragons? :)
cletusinterruptus 2 years ago
hahahahahahahahaha "the bible is the most advances Scientific book around". Hilarious!
SeilenosD 2 years ago
Not to be a douche, but you made a calculation error.
It takes 162 000 metric tons, or 162 000 000 kg of water.
Equivalent to 162 000 m3
Equivalent to the output of urine from a small city (~3000ppl) over 100 years.
Santo3x7 2 years ago
Creationists belong in a cage, more preferably a psychiatric ward for the mentally insane, creationists below like cola boy show that one.
01101100d 2 years ago
0110:
Evolutionists belong in a zoo, but hey, who's complaining?
Atleast I rely on what I see, and I'm not biased like you are. ;)
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
Also cola boy, what do you mean by " i rely on what i see,"
If by this you are stating that you have seen god, i would suggest you stop forgetting to take your medication, but if your implying about the beautiful clouds and flowers, then open your eyes further at africa where children are dying and say thats part of gods beautiful work, but no doubt you also have a pathetic excuse for why these children have to suffer by god huh, yet your explanation would come without evidence.
01101100d 2 years ago
God values the truth, he created it afterall, and the truth is that they should not suffer.
It's the sins of men which cause things like that.
You said yourself that you have a more highly evolved brain than creationists do. Aka implying you're smarter.
We may have similiar DNA to chimps, only because the capabilities of DNA are not unlimited.
Having similiar Junk DNA probably comes from living alongside Chimps, and not from mating with them.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
If you cannot tell the difference between a said claim and sarcasm then you must be completely humourless or just a bit slow.
What are you on about with DNA and chimps, your just too easy and yet going to be a challenge to make you understand the basics, what training have you had in science. What theory remotely suggests thats we mated with chimps. How the hell does living along side chimps cause genetic similarities to occur. thnx
01101100d 2 years ago
Haven't you heard of human endogenous retroviruses?
They are viruses that effect the genome and add onto their information to some degree.
If chimps and men lived alongside each other and they both caught the same retroviruses from being around each other, that would effect some of the junk DNA.
Then there's the fact that they appear similiar to us anyway, so obviously they have similiar DNA, that doesn't necasserily mean we began from the same ancestors.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
Of course ive heard of endogenous retroviruses, in fact, thats proof of evolution because we inherit them through the line of evolution so i dont know how this could back your claim, do you actually understand what a retrovirus does, how it works etc, or you get it from a little show and like to pretend it means something to your case. We share over 60,000 identical regions within the chromosomes at distinct phenotype regions. Study more, humans and chimps seperated regions mya.
01101100d 2 years ago
I'm afraid DNA similarity doesn't necasserily equal relationship. We have DNA similarities with Yeast too.
We have psychological similarities with the laws of physics themselves, but one isn't so quickly accepting God now are you?
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
I know we have DNA similarities between other things too, what is your point there against my argument, your going from my point like all creationists do.
Please take a course in biology and genetics, then you can get back to me because you clearly havent a clue what your talking about, you must watch creationist videos with a twinkle in your eye.
01101100d 2 years ago
Haha, Okay then I'll take your advice, I'll do more research.
But I'm quite sure I already get the general idea of how science works. ;)
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
I see your only 18. Research is only the start, you would also need a course like i have, well a few.
How does science work to you, from the scientists i know and the courses ive taken through the advanced levels, you start with a hypotheseis or a theory from observation.
You detail how you intend to prove the theory.
Compile a method of experimentations
write and detail your results
generate more if needed
generate a discussion and conclusion based on evidence (data, not testimonies)
01101100d 2 years ago
Distinct copies can only be passed down genetically with retroviruses, hence, humans and chimps have once shared the same line of evolution before speciation occured. However, it takes more than just retroviruses, these areas tend to become recessive areas of the genome, as with alot of junk DNA, The only main difference between chimps and humans is that two chromosomes have fused.
01101100d 2 years ago
but we did evolve fro the same ancestor
plasterosu 2 years ago
If thats the case then Isaac Newton would have been in one, and where would the knowledge of GRAVITY be SMARTY??
seanfenrir 1 year ago
@seanfenrir the concept of gravity didnt come from his belief in an imaginary skydaddy. From your comment below, i have a video in response to someone called katdanmo who also believed that hitler killed in the name of darwinism, dude, watch it as i debunk this thick headed bullshit.
01101100d 1 year ago
Creationism EPIC FAIL...
bttsstewart 2 years ago
Croco-duck? WTF...
PlainsofWar 2 years ago 2
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Atheist answer: Because the water's been heated to 100 degrees centigrade resulting in a change in state from liquid to gas.
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atheistfriends 2 years ago
Q: In which of his books did Charles Darwin state you have to find transitional fossils in order prove evolution?
As for Cameron's ah... partner Comfort... The word "Freudian' says it all.
BlixsemFleerSneuw 2 years ago
Not all of us took that speed reading course as college freshmen. Could ou leave the written messages on just a tad longer?
BlixsemFleerSneuw 2 years ago
My mistake, in my first videos I was trying to get the videos to run same length as the music so I timmed them down a bit too much. Things have improved in later editions.
ZuluFightrunner 2 years ago
@BlixsemFleerSneuw ever heard of a pause button?
Bloodster8 1 year ago
@Bloodster8 Let's see, 1) pt the messages up for a few more seconds no problems for any one. 20 require people to pause the flick and back up and pause it agains. I prefer option one.
BlixsemFleerSneuw 1 year ago
Reading over the comments....TheColaGoodfellow is a fucking moron that must really enjoy lying and bullshitting. He doesn't even have his mythology straight. Don't go bashing someone's irrefutable knowledge of truth with nonsensical claims and lies. Especially if you can't even get the story straight idiot
TheRealScarr 2 years ago 4
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eddie2042 2 years ago
lol the zombies are in the mall!
KurtDonaldCobain1994 2 years ago
I had to abandon Creation, Christianity, and reading the bible as I was becoming increasingly embarrassed to be represented by MORONS like the ones in this video!
99minerkc 2 years ago
there is no reasoning with creationists, let them preach, the more they do, the dumber they look.
z3r0cr3d 2 years ago
The problem is that they preach to ignorant people who can't see how stupid they are.
17oodles 2 years ago
They spat like children.
Dear "Thecolagoodfellow" if the earth is so young how pray can we see the light of stars hundreds of millions of lights years away? (or was that a ploy of gods to throw off the satanists).
fingolin1776 2 years ago
It's not as bad as some of the arguments I hear from atheists =)
"I can't see it, hear it, etc etc therefore it's not real!"
Oh, ok, then your brain doesn't exist because I haven't seen it or touched it etc etc.
lol
It's a bit irritating how you claim they are stupid just because you think they're mis-informed.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
"Oh, ok, then your brain doesn't exist because I haven't seen it or touched it etc etc." - One of the most profound dumbest arguments I've ever heard to counter that statement. Are you trying to shoot yourself in the foot? lol
It isn't so much that they're misinformed, which they are, but it's because when shown the evidence and explained the reality of the situation they still continue to deny it and continue to argue against a subject they don't even understand to begin with lol.
rba718 2 years ago
"One of the most profound dumbest arguments"
Yes, because that "argument" was based off of the same logic as their argument, lol.
"against a subject they don't even understand to begin with"
Here's a question, do scientists fully understand the universe?
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
No because we know what a brain is, what it does, and where it rests within the human body. Or did you not know where the brain usually sits? If you kill a human and open up his/her skull you can clearly see/touch/examine the brain. Now how can you possible apply that logic to your magical friend? lol
Another stupid assertion on your part. There's a difference between studying the universe and being incredibly closed minded about what we already know.
rba718 2 years ago
"No because we know what a brain is..."
You see, I could say we know what a God is and go into that. Give you the scriptures to fit it too.
But that would not be evidence for you.
If you have 100% faith that God will do what you ask, you would see miracles by God and therefore have evidence.
But you would not trust the evidence enough for that.
The prophets were the God-scientists who saw the evidence in first-person.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
Do you? Can you define what God even is? Because you'd be the first.
Scriptures carry no more weight in this matter than a science fiction novel.
Hm, so you're saying you have 100% faith in God? Then why don't you ask for world peace? An end to starvation and disease? An infinite amount of resources?
rba718 2 years ago
My case with faith is a complicated one.
To us, God is reason. Other than that God is unknown.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
I don't see how you make the connection between reason being a model used to measure reality for us humans and a transcendent being.
Faith isn't always a complicated thing, you have every right to hold that faith. It becomes a problem however when we try to state that faith as fact. To have a fact you need to provide evidence for it and basically prove it, which neither of us can do for God.
rba718 2 years ago
"between reason being a model used to measure reality"
Because everything has a reason, be it the existance of a law of physics or the lack of a law against it.
God exists because no law existed, then he created the laws of physics below him.
This is biblically how things worked before the universe.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
Yeah, things usually happen for a reason, but how do you make the leap and say this proves God?
Do you have some kind of real proof of this?
Sure the bible can say all kinds of things, though it was written by humans. So how do you think the humans back then knew a damn thing about the universe when they thought the world was flat?
rba718 2 years ago
"though it was written by humans"
Like science books and journals. Except science is just speculation by humans.
Whilst the Bible is a direct visual/audible claim by humans.
It's hard to deny if 40 odd witnesses claim to have seen great miracles and/or heard the very voice of God.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
By science here I'm refering to greater measures than what any one human can experience in their life. Not things which have been observed to work like medicine and lightbulbs, lol.
I'm refering to things such as dates regarding millions of years, and events going on billions of lightyears away.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
The Bible is greater proof than you give it credit for, so are practically any other scripture that speaks the word "God" with even MORE witnesses added on, at the very least you could think that God has spoken yet scriptures have been altered over time.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
First of all, your logic is flawed because even though you say its the word of a God you nor anyone has ever presented proper evidence for the existence of that God you're claiming.
Second, since when do we use witness testimony as solid evidence to support fact or in this case, miracles? Especially witnesses, who if they did exist, are over 2000 years old.
It doesn't matter if they've been altered or not, the scripture already destroys its own credibility.
rba718 2 years ago
"your logic is flawed"
If my logic was any more flawed than yours, I wouldn't be following it.
"proper evidence"
What we see in the world fits the idea of an alternate will, with the ability to act in a rational way, so I see no reason to not believe.
Other than that, there may be no evidence of God.
But if we are going to be that picky then we have no proper evidence for evolution either, other than the rational order that we see.
"when do we use witness testimony"
Peer review.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
we have mountains of evidence for evolution. Which is why the theory is supported by 99% of all scientists.
In 1971 biologists moved five adult pairs of Italian wall lizards from their home island of Pod Kopiste, in the South Adriatic Sea, to the neighboring island of Pod Mrcaru. Now, an international team of researchers has shown that introducing these small, green-backed lizards, Podarcis sicula, to a new environment caused them to undergo rapid and large-scale evolutionary changes.
Shigren 2 years ago
I have no doubts that evolution is possible atleast to some degree.
But I don't believe in a million year old universe, not only does it sound more ridiculous to me than any miracle in the Bible ever could, there also lacks any direct evidence of the universe millions of years ago.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
so you take the stupid route and say god did it? Come on man. Do as I did and open your eyes to science for a second. Let yourself investigate it instead of being bullheaded and scared. I was in your shoes for 21 years. I know how you feel.
How can a million year old universe not be possible? You accept how large it is right? Why not accept how it came to be so large and the amount of time that took. Do you still think the sun revolves around the earth like the bible says? Certainly not.
Shigren 2 years ago
"so you take the stupid route and say god did it?"
I wouldn't call it stupid, who do you think knows more?
The god who made the universe? or an insignificant human being who probably doesn't even know whether or not there are forces in the universe beyond his senses?
"Let yourself investigate it"
I have.
"Do you still think the sun revolves around the earth like the bible says? "
It doesn't say that. Ever. That was another human speculation made by non-prophets that failed.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
As I said to the last guy, if my logic was any more flawed than other peoples I wouldn't be following it.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
Medieval humans thought they knew everything regardless of actual guidance by god, just like people tend to think today.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
now you are just babbling, and running scared. I know this tactic because I myself have done it in the past.
Look at Galileo! He was wanted dead for trying to discover the reality that surrounds us. If we listened to people like you and fundamentalists we would never have made any great discoveries in the world of science.
Shigren 2 years ago
"I know this tactic because I myself have done it in the past."
If you think you know my "tactic" yet don't believe, then you don't know my tactic.
"If we listened to people like you and fundamentalists we would never have made any great discoveries in the world of science. "
If we listened to folk like me we would listen to smarter scientists (aka God) than dumber scientists (aka humans).
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
rather than*
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
haha...what scientific proof do you have that god even exists??? you cant take science from something that cant be scientifically proven...think again
Spriken1 2 years ago 3
I have every bit of evidence that God exists.
What you need to do, is provide evidence that the universe is irrational and stupid. until then the universe acts quite rational and quite intelligent.
You can tell the unvierse has a will behind it, that's why we can't change the laws of physics.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
When has God ever created vaccines?
17oodles 2 years ago
17oodles:
God creates vaccines everyday.
Every vaccine that can be made is made possible by the laws of physics.
Intelligence is basically the ability to put 1 and 1 together, the laws of physics require this ability to work like they do.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
Science tells us that there's a lot we don't know.
To believe that you know everything requires religion.
Macrochenia 2 years ago
Science tells us that science doesn't change anything about what we see.
Science tells us that knowledge is power.
If knowledge is power in this universe, then God is real.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
So you're saying that "God" is a computer network or a scientist in a lab somewhere?
Macrochenia 2 years ago
We can see the workings of molecules before we know they exist.
We can see the workings of intelligence before we know it exists.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
Nice non sequitur there.
Macrochenia 2 years ago
Macrochenia:
It's not a non sequitor, unless you've forgotten what a God is.
If knowledge is power, then knowledge is God. All powerful, and all knowing. (Intelligence and knowledge walk hand in hand)
Not to mention the fact that the laws of physics require the ability to put 1 and 1 together for everything we see to work, which is a key factor in intelligence.
If atoms didn't hold together, if molecules didn't hold together, if the planets didn't follow Gravity...
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
non sequitur*
Remarkable, my spelling is usually good.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
Then the Universe wouldn't look like it does now. But that doesn't mean that it was designed by an active intelligence.
And the non sequitur is the jump you're making between the specific design of the universe and that it was actively designed as such. Life on Planet Earth evolved to match the conditions that were found, if the conditions were different, life would be different.
Macrochenia 2 years ago
Even if life on earth evolved, it would still prove that intelligence is a best suited explanation for the existance of the universe.
DNA was just an off spring of the original will which exists in molecules, over time creating a new will with its own kind of intelligence for it's own reasons. To survive.
That is, assuming evolution to be true.
Otherwise, life was created as it was, and life has probably adapted a bit since then.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
You seem to be confusing cause and effect.
"Original will which exists in molecules?" Molecules have no will, they simply react to external forces in conjunction with laws of physics. A hydrogen atom can't make a conscious decision about whether or not it wants to give up its electron to a passing chlorine atom. Ozone molecules can't attempt to avoid being picked up by Chlorofluorocarbons, the Sun doesn't suddenly decide to take a break from fusion for a while.
Macrochenia 2 years ago
Just because the forces have no reason to change doesn't mean they have no will behind their existance.
Will is natural in existance, it doesn't just belong to humans because we get our will from nature itself. Even according to evolution human will is just an offspring of the forces of nature, for a different cause.
It just means that right now God has no reason to alter the laws of physics, or anything much for that matter.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
So you believe in a God that exists, but doesn't do anything?
Macrochenia 2 years ago
Yes and no.
He does things, but often using the normal forces of nature.
Unless one was to have faith, then he would definatly do something, how supernatural it is depends on the amount of faith.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
In other words he'll only prove his existence to people who already unquestioningly believe in him?
Macrochenia 2 years ago
God wouldn't have to prove it to those who believe.
When people believe God, he will prove himself to others on their behalf, in different ways, for different peoples needs.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
But you said that he only uses supernatural if the person already has faith. And since the natural explanation precludes the need for God, he therefore would only prove his existence to people who already believe.
Macrochenia 2 years ago
Not many people have alot of faith.
Most people would never have so much confidence in God that they would rest their lives on his promises.
Paul is a prime example, he did miracles for people who did not have as much faith.
And God would supernaturally intercede and "prove" himself on his behalf.
But I don't limit God, so.... Anything is possible as long as God has done it.
I think we don't know enough about the world to limit it completely.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
Male nipples. No function at all and yet all men have nipples. Why put headlights on a car but never ever connect them to the car's battery?
June28July 2 years ago
Male nipples can produce milk, they're there just incase they're needed, I guess.
The male nipple is a mysterious thing. lol.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
No, the male nipple argues against Intelligent Design.
June28July 2 years ago
It can't be very strong and argument then, I've seen and heard of men who can produce milk.
So I can see why it may be advantageous.
You can't beat intelligent design using intelligence, because then you're disproving your own argument.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
Yeah, but why do all men have nipples but only some can actually use them?
"You can't beat intelligent design using intelligence, because then you're disproving your own argument."
Could you clarify this?
June28July 2 years ago
Whatever made everything is capable of producing intelligence, and the evidence proves it.
Even if we were to take evolution as true, it changes nothing.
Hence I'm going to take the words of Prophet Moses as being more factual than the words of scientists who are simply guessing at the condition of the world many years ago.
Something with the ability to put facts together must exist for the universe to exist.
So Intelligent Design in general is a stronger idea than folk make out.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
But Evolution proposes that chance was a factor which it is in Natural Selection... An engineer does not craft using chance.
June28July 2 years ago
Chance based off of the already in motion laws of physics which was put together by something which is capable of producing facts and intelligence.
If evolution is a fact, then clearly it was put together by a certain force which is capable of such a feat.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
Yes but you fail to make the connection between this intelligence and Evolution...
June28July 2 years ago
Facts and intelligence walk hand in hand.
Evolution is a fact.
So either way, it doesn't change where we get our intelligence from, we still get it from whatever sustains the laws of physics..
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
Or should I say it *could* be a fact.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
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TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
Okay, and how may we go about finding this source of intelligence? What scientific experiments can we run that will point to this source and how can we use this to better life for man?
June28July 2 years ago
" how might we obtain a sample of this Manna for testing?"
There's two possible answers:
1. You can't test it because it happened many years ago.
2. You need to trust in God, or you need a miracle working prophet.
"and how may we go about finding this source of intelligence?"
The source of this intelligence is everywhere, whenever you see a fact you have found intelligence. Every factual scientific test that can be used to produce results is a result of intelligence.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
So there are three answers? 1. We can't test it which is what science is all about. 2. Have faith in other words?.. Not my style, I need reason to believe in something. 3. We don't have a "miracle-working prophet", whatever that is...
And since this intelligence is everywhere, what scientific experiments can we run to learn more of the nature of this intelligence and it's attributes. Is it random, at what times does it occur, what causes it and how might we go about using this "intelligence"?..
June28July 2 years ago
"We can't test it which is what science is all about."
You can, by trusting him.
The reasons for trusting him are all in the witnesses.
Isreal has tested the trustability of God over the course of isreals history.
Alot of people who don't believe seem to have trouble trusting people, even if there's 44 witnesses and most of them never met each other, testifying to the obviously miraculous.
If you can't see reasons to trust God, I definatly don't think you're looking hard enough, lol.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
Okay, but that's testimony, not science. Testimony is not proof.
June28July 2 years ago
I can think of one place where trusting in God did nothing to help the people who did the trusting.
Its one word and some believe it to be the place of the death of God as we know it.
Give up?
The place is called Auschwitz Birkenau. Christians, Jews, Gentiles and everybody else died here and trusting God did nothing to alleviate their suffering. So where was God mate? Where were the miracles you speak so sincerely about?
God died in all those people. Therefore God is dead.
fredocorleone47 2 years ago
I think you are assuming these people had lots of faith, and/or you're assuming he didn't allieviate their suffering in any way atall.
People often think they have faith in God, but wouldn't ever act on this faith, that doesn't mean God is dead, it means their faith is dead.
You see it all the time, people talk of miracles but don't dare boldly proclaim they will do one in the streets.
TheColaGoodfellow 2 years ago
So you are assuming that those people in those camps did not have faith at all!
Right that makes a whole ton of sense.
Rabbis and priests who spent their lives dedicated to a God who either did not care about their suffering or could do nothing to help them.
Tell me how in any way did God help these people? How did his miracles work when people where being gassed by the millions and innocent children who's faith should not be tested like that where crushed and cremated?
God is dead.
fredocorleone47 2 years ago