VW TSI ENGINE ANIMATION

[warninshoarmy]

TSI TURBOCHARGER,TFSI TURBOCHARGER,TFSI TWIN TURBOCHARGERS can use petrol octance 98-100,

[warninshoarmy]

DESEIL ENGINE WITH TURBOCHARGER INTERCOOLER DAMGED ; 85% per day

COMMONRAIL DESEIL ENGINE WITH TURBOCHARGER INTERCOOLER DAMGED ; 77% per day

COMMONRAIL DESEIL ENGINE WITH BI TURBOCHARGERS INTERCOOLER DAMGED ; 81% per day

CGI ENGINE WITH TURBOCHARGER INTERCOOLER DAMGED ; 95% per day

CGI ENGINE WITH BITURBOCHARGERS INTERCOOLER DAMGED ; 99% per day

PETORL ENGINE WITH TURBOCHARGER INTERCOOLER DAMGED ; 95.9% per day

PETORL ENGINE WITH BITURBOCHARGERS INTERCOOLER DAMGED ; 99.9% per day

[warninshoarmy]

WHY DO THEY ENJOY TURBOCHARGER?

THE ANSWER is CLEARLY,they are fool with 0 IQ AND RICH FOR WASTE MEDAL MATERIAL FOR THIER PRODUCT AND THEIR BRAIN THINK IT'S EASY TO MADE PERFORMENT.

THEIR BRIAN AND THEIR MIND LIE THEMSELVES WHO SHALL GO TO Psychiatrists for spare real world and unreal world.

Because TURBOCHARGER BURN AND DESTORY PART OF PERTOL ENGINE,GASOLINE ENGINE AND TURBINE ENGINE IN 90% per day.

[warninshoarmy]

NO ECONOMY WITH TSI TURBOCHARGER,TFSI TURBOCHARGER IN 1.8,2.0 on road : A4 1.8 TFSI WITH 2,400L/100km on highway,2,000L/100km in city, A4 3.2 FSI : 10L/100km in city,7.5L/100km on highway,A4 2.0 TDI ; 13L/100km in city,9.9L/100km on highway.

[supramonster]

TSI engine = saftey???? LOL

[evydaemon]

Great milage but always problems with the turbo charger! Not cost effective. You are definitly better off, buying a 3.0 l v6 than this little money trap

[dannyboy485]

@evydaemon Nothing wrong with the turbo on this engine,just muppets treating turbo like crap ie. not letting turbo cool down before turning off,revving the shit out of it when its cold and not bothering to change the oil.

Whats not cost effective about this engine?the extra fuel you would use in a 3.0 l v6 could buy the car after three years.

[crudeoilsystems]

Nice to know this is a family car with a bit more oomph!

[flatblackstrat]

Im in the market for a new 2011 Golf Variant. Anyone who has experience with them please send me a message as a have a few questions. Thanks.

[utub1ng]

what's the full form of TSI??

[LonelyiDaniaaj276]

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[EpicSoloIncoming]

15 people doesn't know how an engine works

[MyChemicalJasper483]

these engines are great 170 bhp out of a 1.4 l block? americans can't do that. no offense though

[luminaeus]

@MyChemicalJasper483

We're getting there, Chevy has 140bhp coming out of a 1.4, but it's designed for more fuel economy than the VW engine. I love American engines but drive a GTI :)

[AANate007]

@MyChemicalJasper483 well we did, look at the ford focus ecoboost. I'm not quite sure it gets 170 but its close

[pmfabri]

@MyChemicalJasper483 There is no replacement for displacement. Large displacement, naturally aspirated engines last much longer than tiny turbo engines, and can run on regular gas, while these tiny overboosted engines require pemium, or you will lose all the power from the boost.

[YouTumult]

@MyChemicalJasper483 Of course Americans could build engines with 170bhp from a 1.4l block. But why would they?

[markoni1986]

pioneering technology for petrol engines my ass!!!!

this technology is 10-15years old...

[mohsenomran3]

i wish to work for volkswagen

[liloxe]

what about the chain,before we had timing belt,do we have to change the chain as well,if we do how long do we have to wait.

[EbonixD]

blows up too quickly and unreliable

[Albe983]

The combination of supercharger and turbocharger is old, it's a Lancia invention and it was used for the first time on a Delta S4 group B rally car.

[Falewick]

Good engine with high power and, suprisingly, a lot of headroom. With moderate chiptuning you can raise the maximum torque from 200 to 260Nm all over the rpm spectrum and the maximum power output to 110kW.

[sos60joker]

GTi

[bigroue]

it hasn't got twin-scrool turbo technologie.....damage

[SuperBeatnuts]

unreliable

[ulef19]

@SuperBeatnuts Unreliable only in the wrong hands..

[unikino]

@ nireland90 LMAO "Japan is in Europe" wtf did u smoke or what school did u go to? damn

[redbach23]

@nireland90...are you dumb or what....first of all Japan is not in EUROPE you idiot! second do you seriously believe those surveys? its all BS good reviews go to the highest bidder. last Lexus is just a luxury toyota nothing more.

[y2kjorgeavila]

Nice work

The next hated race for the saving of money.

china, Europe,? Hybrid,Electric,Water,and Air. I like that air.

Save the water for plants and us.

[nekdonoben]

whats fsi tsi tfsi i realy dont know

[Corni33]

@nekdonoben fsi has no turbocharger, tsi and tfsi are the same, only other names (turbocharged fuel stratified injection)

[julosx]

@Corni33 FSI = natural aspiration and direct injection, TFSI : the same with single turbo, TSI : twin charged

[j0d0k]

@julosx tfsi is the same system as tsi, but its the name of audi`s engines.

[krutto]

@j0d0k Who owns AUDI?

[erenei]

economic my dick i have the new golf 1.4 tsi 122 hp and it is not economic

[dragonfistSSJ4]

LOWETECH IN TSI (TURBOCHAGER SEVERAL INJETTION) 1815

ECU 2010 SAME AS ECU 1815 ; 1.4 TSI 12hp

[powersliding]

and they havent even introduced a variable cam duration and lift system yet into this brilliant set up

[jubaiyagyu]

I drive a 2010 VW Jetta Wolfsburg 2.0 Turbo TSI, and I have to say, to me, it sometimes feels like a V8; and it sips fuel. A full tank of premium can last a good two weekes going 14 mls back & forth to work for me.

[themooddisorders]

@jubaiyagyu Lucky guy having one of those cars

[amehu]

while you hold the most ergonomic wheel and lashing twin turbos with ultra precious transmission. Every hunk of torque could be quick safe overtake cruising long Riviera or many meters of tough mountain road, where you can then enjoy beautiful view from the top. Hmm well not really because car itself is spoiling it a bit - Golf should look more like.. like Type-R lets say? Not so futureproof design but somewhat like that right?

[amehu]

I think whole package TSI+DSG is revolutionary, definatelly. And as a bonus its so good timing when everybody goes green, and because its kinda playstation-ish, for grown ups,

[amehu]

nice video but could be more awesome technology and less marketing.

golf ♥ the most reliable european car since ever

[nireland90]

@amehu thats absolute rubbish, the "JD power survey 2010" had shown the lexus RX is the most reliable car, and lexus is japanese. and japan is in europe. take a look at any jd power survey for any year, youll never find the golf at the top.

[1600tdci]

@nireland90 japan is in asia

[amehu]

@nireland90

first time heard about JD.. what?

I m talking about EXPERIENCE in real world in everyday tough terrain conditions and I 've seen what Golf is capable to do where japs were boiling water, loosing power and required chassis repairments.

I m driving jap sport car and it is the best money can buy in an area where I live, but I know that in long run in hot conditions and rough roads Golf would pass me. I m talking about many countries where roads are so shitty you couldn't belive.

[FID3R]

bad engines for everyday and normal use milions of problems in parts and the engine even in stock powers.....in medium fuels and hot weathers or if you push it more than normal your problems start....briliant idea (from lancia 30 years ago) but only for rally and tracks...servicing and repairing this engines wasent happy moment for us...if anyone worked in vw dealer knows..

[the26thhour]

That's all cool, very cool but I wish they'd just stick to rear wheel drive, front &/or mid mounted boxer 4

& yes, I know the beetle was rear mount, having a 71 superB

[bffb83]

strato you clearly haven't a clue. No american car has ever produced so much power from such a small displacement engine. Not even Ferrari are producing that sort of power per cylinder

[stratoleft]

The belt looks like a nasty job to change. You must have to lift the entire car up in the air just to change the belt. Another thing; there's no evidence that their injector nozzle is "revolutionary" either for power OR consumption. Prove it in a normal vehicle instead of this ugly euroasian car.

[flatlanded87]

Lol, it's a Golf dude. You're either living under a rock or haven't been outside in a long time. You can't get much more normal than a Golf...

Try harder to hide your ignorance next time...

[oliebol61]

Not high power? You have never drived a 160 hp TSI

[mikethebeast1012]

VW are geniuses and this is just more proof of that

[sstcECOTECsstc]

I think they should have gone after "pumping losses" in the engine, as well as making the reciprocating assembly as light as possible. You can now control the throttle with the intake valves alone, eliminating the throttle "butterfly". I guess all of this would be too expensive though. I dunno. They are the engineers, not I.

[D0NGI0VANNl]

They did go after pumping losses, it's got direct injection with exhaust gas return.

The supercharger keeps up the torque in the lower rpm regions, therefore making it possible to build smaller engines.

VGT chargers still need some rpm and they're not as reliable in gas engines.

[sstcECOTECsstc]

Instead of using the supercharger, couldn't have they used a Variable Turbo? I think the idea of twin charging is neat, but I don't like things to be more complicated than necessary. I wish I knew why they used the supercharger, there is no clear cut advantage that I could think of that a supercharger has over a VGT.

[CainG88]

The supercharger enhances airflow into the engine, making a purer air fuel mix, reducing emissions and improving fuel economy. The turbocharger makes use of waste exhaust gas to improve power output, therefore making even more use out of the fuel.

[sstcECOTECsstc]

A supercharger and "fuel economy" don't mix. I know that the supercharger is only in use when power is needed, but, an engine making lets say, 300 hp with the use of a supercharger won't be as efficent as an engine making 300hp with the use of a turbo. I understand that SCgers make boost instantly, but, so does a properly sized Variable Turbo. Near instant anyway. I just think the system is redundant. More to break. Neat none the less.

[socalltd]

@sstcECOTECsstc i would dissagree in fuel economy, VW turbo engines have a flat torque band. the best way to achive economy is more usable torque. there is no lag and if driven gently it can do very well on the highway

[mikethebeast1012]

VGT are new and expensive thats all, this is the best setup for the cost

[sstcECOTECsstc]

That makes a lot of sense. A hell of alot. This motor is for passenger cars after all.

[getz250hp]

a grat video to learn why these engines blow up!tsi sucks

[hugostv]

the reason why these engines blow up is because some powerhorse fanatics will try to upgrade to a bigger turbo thinkin that any turbo on any car can be upgraded to a bigger one. TSI turbo is not meant to be upgraded, it was designed at moderate power gains with a goal of keepin it fuel efficient. It's not a tuner's car, it's just a family car with a bit of extra farting power.

[heatoneGR]

@hugostv you think...search it about piston upgrades rod upgrades bigger becks custom exhaust manifolds with external's and bigger turbo with reprogrammed ecu or even new ecu custom programmed...but i agrre if you put bigger turbo is going to blow up...like all other cars i think...

[pa3op89nbg]

@hugostv Dude from Cypress made the 1.4TSI up to 500+ hp

I can send you a link to a thread on forum.

[cs833ap]

Oltretutto il "Triflux" e' nato per l'accoppiamento di 2 turbine su un 1 cil., il sistema della prima S4 si chiamava "volumex" ed era un brevetto Abarth.. ;-)

[cs833ap]

Quindi secondo questo ragionamento allora tutte le case automobilistice hanno copiato ed usato la tecnologia risalente al 1854, anno della nascita del primo motore a scoppio...

[FrancescoPRT]

tecnologia tedeca sta minchia...

il progetto è ITALIANO e risale all'85

E' un motore brevettato Lancia (Delta S4)

[AlexDIIM]

ESATTO. Poi con una testa Triflux rende ancora di più. :)

[kusinagi]

Yay, great video! I'm gonna buy this car as my first car to save money on fuel... I'm still wondering about the overhead capacity of the car if it can take a shortage of water for a long time...

[sheldonv8]

CRAP ENGINE...i sold my Scirocco back cuz it sounded like a bag of nails and did 13mpg!!!! NEVER BUY VW AGAIN!!!!!!!!

[yfzboy450]

you realize your probly the dumbest person to ever comment on youtube?

[eddyman101]

1.8t vs. 2.0t who wins overall? (for example modifications, durability, power gains etc..)

[darijo203]

I drove Golf VI 1.4L with 122bhp...all I can say is that I was very, very suprised how elastic it is and how much preformance it delievers. Great engine!

[CreazioniPinnacolo]

@darijo203 you obviously havent driven anything with real power... 122..HA.. my 1000cc motorcycles makes more than that STOCK and only weighs 350 pounds.

[trobi]

@CreazioniPinnacolo

How's the torque on your bikes?

Retard.

[karrpoff]

1:19 "water cooled intercooler system"

-I think this is also called as aftercooler?

[sweetbounty]

i drive 1700 km to get home in the netherland in exactly 16 hours, non stop drive.

with litle more than 1.5 tank (50 liters)

I understood that u buyed a 50 liters for 1700 - u could write I tanked 75 per 1700km - write more specific pls. (it's normal now...)

[GTRnev8820]

that little 1.4 L engine is realy some thing

good

[oilhammer04]

VW will most likely require high priced oil. The transmission fluid is also ridiculously expensive.

[naturalyshocked]

who cares?

look @ the fuel economy, you wil earn the cost of oil back.

170 hp for a 1400 engine, many u.s. 6 cyl engine doen't even reach this amount.

lol

[sweetbounty]

its nothing coz its dual turbocharger - u can get this in normal engine with this turbos - FSI is a shit

[oilhammer04]

It depends on the initial cost of the vehicle. It takes a long time to recoup the extra initial cost in fuel savings. You may wear the car out long before the fuel savings matches the extra cost of the car. If you are looking at just economics you have to look at the total cost to own the vehicle. I think Yahoo gives this cost for vehicles. Civic is probably at the top for cheapest cars to own.

[naturalyshocked]

wel, normal families here in europe that never suffered some financial problems or some kind of aditions.

exchanges his car when it's exactly 2 years old.

they only think about the resel value.

it's suposed to be that most of the cars older than 15 years or so are on the scrap yard.

their no collectables.

accept for some specials cars.

but even our specials, like the opel manta, the C kadet and stuff like the 2002ti, bmw 323i,190 2.3 16v, the first m3, even they disappeared total from the view.

[sweetbounty]

if u were right noone would buy an diesel.. but u wrong.

Europeans are very economical and practice and thats why they like new type of diesel who gives u power and economy..

[naturalyshocked]

people demand fast smal cars.

smal for the parking, fastt on the lane.

people could ave bigger engine here, but they also like to trotle alot.

many people also like to go on land road and enjoy to curve road, like personaly rally or something, i realy love to achieve the fasted possible speed around a corner of wich i got sorft of a fan of it.

i hate long roads.

[sweetbounty]

well what can I say. Buy a turbocharged benzin engine... but if someone think that it will be economical (especially in street race) so he is wrong

I like small and light cars too but not for journeys or normal race - bigger cars are more stable especially when u drive fast (about 160-200km/h) and are safer, small cars are ok but in the city..

[naturalyshocked]

no, a electronic direct injected diesel is real good for people.

it's almsot impossible to kil the engine at traffic light when releasing the clutch accidental.

it has loads of torque, it runs good, they reach 5000 rpm quickly.

you visit the gas station litle.

i drive 1700 km to get home in the netherland in exactly 16 hours, non stop drive.

with litle more than 1.5 tank (50 liters)

@ exactly 120km/h non stop, i only needed to acellerate @ toll gates.

wanted to test my 90hp, topped it @ 210kmh

[sweetbounty]

yyy tell me what u mean writing "no" coz I have no doubt that Diesel are good for people. I don't know with what or who u argue ?

it;s madnes to reach 5000 rpm in diesel coz they reach max power at 4000. (in mostly)

hmm i never saw those result in consumption in normal car 2.9 liter per 100km.. what car and engine ?

[naturalyshocked]

who said anything about 2.9 liter / 100km.

i ried to say, i covered france completely (997km) in a almost non stop trip, if it wasn't for toll gates with only 1 tank filling.

vw wagens promised 50liter per 100km/h (or 5l to 100km) and their promise was true.

i kept my foot in a certain position, that the car always kept cruisig non stop 120km/h.

(i should have bought that handle for the steeling colom, to enenable cruise control).

[naturalyshocked]

the old citroen AX 1100 was caple of getting faster to 70km/h than a bmw 750.

litle fast cars are real fun to 'rally' in.

bigger cars are more dangerous to drive sporty, because of the weight in the cornes.

litle cars are fun, you don't need speed, you need fast 0-100km/ times.

i think that0's the most importand factor in european minds

[naturalyshocked]

oh, and audi a4, a6, a8, passat and exeo's frontwheel suspention is amazings cool, just to look at, a 4 link system, witch allows variable wheel angles when the wheel turn.

i can't express my self en how the escribe the effect.

but it's a race car type suspention.

it has spare holes, to adjust the wheel angle, even the link bar from the steering looks cool and technical.

i have repaired an accidental vihicle and was required to change the part with the wheel bearing and a new wheel.

amazing!

[naturalyshocked]

all cars should be build like that.

you can even add 4 wheel drive if you find a donor car on the scrap yard.

you need the gearbox, the rear axle system(subframe with differantial and suspention).

voila, a beast that takes tight curves on town road like it's cheese, i have done 200+km/h+ (friend's '98 audi a8) on a land road with the 2 right wheel in the mud, that smal the road was for 2 car to pas.

it's superbly safe personal race car for daily use.

i wish all cars where like these ...

[naturalyshocked]

i forgot, you also need the fuel tank.

voila

[amehu]

@oilhammer04

what you mean high priced? at least we in north europe are always buying full synthetic anyway. Ive been in ireland for a while now and amazed how rare full synthetic is included here in service :o Its 25eur difference and you do it once a year so why not give your car that little bit better?

DSG transmission is sealed for life so no fluid change there.

[nenandru89]

love it vw the best :)

[Haloman187]

wow i did not know they where twin charged, nice vid!

[yanzodadon]

ah i thought i've watched this before... so if it's twin charged then why is it only like under 8 seconds? shouldn't it be more like under 6 seconds.

[craigandrews88]

its for drivability and fuel consumption, not really for performance.

[yanzodadon]

it's cool how they showed us how it works but won't other engine companies look and this and steal their idea?

[clifford850r]

Once the engine is done, it doesn't matter because they were the first to the market with it. Once the car is released, any automaker could just buy the car and take it appart to see how it works anyway.

[hobizoli]

The first car with this setup was the famous Lancia Delta S4 more then 20 years ago, the street version was also a twincharger

[Questionssm]

no, most companies already know how to make tiny 1.4L 4 cylinders.

[daMoleKing]

This is no ordinary 1.4L 4 banger

[sweetbounty]

yes it's true.. FSI is a crap and nothing new Mitsubishi build many years before FSI an GDI motors...

[naturalyshocked]

this is different than GDI engines.

this engine can 'regarding it's mode' run on a ultra lean mixture, much less than the 1 to 14.x required optimal mixture.

per combustion stroke it injects 2 different mixtures a rich and a lean around the rich mixture, preventing the engine to get hot and burn every last particle of gasonline.

[sweetbounty]

I know this very well it's called layered mixture but this wans't my point - the idea was the same like GDI and despite this in practice = FSI is even less economical than normal engines (TSI is more economical but it's because VW change totally unsuccessful 5V technology in turbo engines.

In practice FSI works in 1 to 14.XX mixture almost all the time - so it's a shit...

[naturalyshocked]

why is 5 valve unsuccesfull, i once removed the cam shafts to exchange the chain on them, a 20v 1800 engine - a4.

i was amazed about the cams angel on the 3 inlet valves(they vary), smaller and therefor closer build, it's not that complex, it has a total accetable build quality.

hydraulic valve adjust.

the more valve, the more air effortly get's in, better vaporization of the fuel.

yahama uses it on his bikes, do you think they also wrong¿?

[sweetbounty]

because more than 4 valeves per cylinder is using in high RPM engines (bikes ect) who gives u power in very high RPM, In normal engines where u need a max torque available as low as possible more than 4 valves gives u nothing and put the max torque very high what is not economical and uncomfortable

Like u see the Japanese who put 4 valeves per Cylinder (far before Germans start to do that) didn't put however a 5 valves per C. to cars engines ? guess why

[naturalyshocked]

i think some of the first rolls bently or bugatti used this technology first.

Such designs have been around since at least 1912 (Peugeot) and perhaps earlier.

source: wiki

people here in europe want eco and fast engine for daily use.

you don't need alot of torque, you just need to move yourself mostly of the time.

otherwise rent a van.

[sweetbounty]

not in regular cars

wiki - no comment

thats why Europe developed a turbo diesels with direct injection...

sorry coz u absolutely wrong , todays cars are heavier and bigger - yes, u need alot of tourge thats why we have very strong torque diesels

Europe isn't a US where benzine is cheap..

[naturalyshocked]

we littaraly race in the cities.

it's to crowded for the policia to function probaly in order to do something about it.

but going like 80km/h where 50 is alowed is not uncommen here in rush hour.

on the highway it's 'somewhat' publicly accepted to drive 140, where 120 is alowed.

i don't think you would be beabled to drive here on your first day, without getting scared.

i can asure you, it's scary as a passanger.

it goes hard here on the roads.

[naturalyshocked]

a "environmenta friendlyl" pushrod engine hardly allows 4 valve operation, i know bmw did it on their bike.

diesel engine also have 16valve engine, do you think they are wrong?

i almost fell from my legs, when i saw a 2000+ build voyager with a intalian pushrod diesel with a broken pushrod system.

come'n man, spend some more money with a real engine and other technology, like DSG boxes(with american people stil wanting to have normal auto trannie?!?!, sourced form BMW comment).

cheap ars

[sweetbounty]

I was talkin about 5 valves per cylinder, where did I wrote that 4 valves per cylinder is wrong? lol

I see you aren't a mechanic so u need read more about GDI FSI and knows why they putted this technology into cars if Japanese don't want to developed it.. (BTW Renault had similar engine too called I.D.E. - not produced any more)

[naturalyshocked]

i gues, you need to learn to understand whatr you read.

i said, i fixed a car with suffered a accident, passat

i fixed the chains of audi 1800 20 valve, i have pictured proof.

the only thing i haven't toughed with tools is aeroplain and a train.

i'm dutch and i live in Valencia.

there are many 4 lane straights in this city.

with close to 1.5 million or more moving in this area, people realy race to the get first to next traffic light, the get the best spot, to trotle again, even before it get

[sweetbounty]

what?

what chains ? what model year ? coz there was no chain in 1.8 20V 125 PS but there was a cam belt so what da hell u talkin about?

1.8 engine is a shit thats why they putted a turbo there... and 1.8 T is much better..

[naturalyshocked]

there is a chain to control the the second camshaft, the one for the outlet ports.

on the front side there is a belt, but it only drives the inlet shaft.

the 2.5,... tdi has 2 of these chaints.

125ps for a 1800 is good number, else it would endanger other models.

i think for the aluminium head, it's a real good number.

the 125ps version has some of the parts required for the turbo version, already build in.

there is a tube under the radiator for the intercooler

[sweetbounty]

u wrote chains if I'm correct there is only 1 chain in 1.8 ...

2.5 Tdi is a V6 so.. its obvious but tehe's a cam belt too.

125 in this engine is weak. I would never say that there is a 125 PS - misunderstanding

1.8 was a mistake and VW group give up this technology. that's all.

[naturalyshocked]

why, many 2.0 engine are tuned for economy and don't even reach 150hp(atleast in that time).

marking technical, it's a good number.

1600 engine did around 90hp in that ....

why, vw, still sells 5 valve engine.

the only mistake, i might see here, that it is more exspensive, it need more parts and interruptions of the production line, to build others.

[sweetbounty]

for sure 2.0 wih 150 PS arent economical..

long time ago honda reach 160 PS from 1.6 engine. (benzin)

which "new" line of VW engines are 5 valves system ?

[naturalyshocked]

i know, that smal civic vtec from the crx did that.

but that was an exeption.

the normal civic with vtec was, if i remember correct 110ps.

but it's a high rpm machine, i think contineu racing trafficlights, wil get boring, the engine noise, although it sound pretty sweet.

but how long with it last?

a 6000+ rmp machine against a relax running 2.0 engine.

like i said, you need fast 0-100km/h and when possible, with no noise, you don't want that people can hear you comming.

[sweetbounty]

ok nevermind coz I know this all what u writing of

Did u have an exeprience with S60 T5 engines ? 250 PS ?

[naturalyshocked]

no, never drove it, but i did repair a volvo 850 t5 estate, police in holland used it.

the police in the U.K. also.

it's a car for salesman on the road.

(due to economical reasons), i have a '94 vectra 2.5 24v stocked, a engine designed by coswordt, 5 speed gearbox, only 170hp and something like 2100 pounds in weight, it's a rocked.

4 cyl with gearbox, are better for the 50km/h speed limit

stop and go traffic makes a 5-6-8 cyl engine lazy, to much gear change or drive high rpm in 2nd gear.

[sweetbounty]

hmm well I saw one s60 T5 and if u compare this to vectra 2.5 V6 24 V it is a real rocket , u can get 7 sec to 100km/h easily so it's not bad as a salesman's car...

IMO 5 cylinder 2.5 capacity with turbo is better than same 2.5 V6 6 cylinder without turbo... I asked u coz i want to know how reliable this cars are.. especially engines.

BTW if u want drive really cheap put there an sequential LPG installation but Only Landi Renzo Omegas.

[naturalyshocked]

there several 5 valve engines in the list. of 2009.

[sweetbounty]

which ones? are they "new" or only reconstruct ?

[naturalyshocked]

i see the Golf R20 will be a 5-valve engine and the v8 tdi is a 5 valve engine.

and maybe some of the 6 cyll diesel are 5 valve.

[sweetbounty]

U see? I aksed which are now. If golf r20 is a sucessor of r32 (who got VR6 4 V) he will have a tuned 2.0 TFSI engine (270 PS) so it's not 5 valves per cylinder engine for sure.

V8 TDI is 4 vales per cylinder engine

S8 4.2 V8 5V (360 KM) was

[naturalyshocked]

enter audi 5 valve 2009 in google.

the vectra does 7.3 or 7.5 to do 0-100km/h acelleration.

(but you need to skilled with the gearbox, because it reaches 6000rpm realy fast and cuts off there, realy anoying if you having fun overtaken people on a 2 lane landroad.

even thoug i realy enjoy engines, i recommend 4 cyl for daily use.

it's just more practical.

automatic sucks, unles it's a DSG, pdk or any other dual clutch system.

witch acellerate faster and more efficient.

[sweetbounty]

I did - there's no new 5 valves engines ( rest is all know old engines)

anyway s60 T5 got 250 PS so there is no way u could beat it without serious modifications in vectra engine (stock had 8 sec to 100km/h)

I u consider about economy put an LPG there.

generally automatic gearboxes sucks

[naturalyshocked]

clearly, not it's '94 car

: )

i'm planning to buy a used audi A8 4.2 or 3.3 diesel. it has a better fuel economy than the vectra.

restore the drive train from a tot z (gearbox, suspention, differentials, wheel bearings, axles) and drive it til falls apart.

(depending on how i get it, i overhaul this or the other, but wheel bearings, axles and suspention wil be overhauled.

i have been thinking about this cars for over atleast 3 year

the dsp is cool, it's slighly faster from 0 to 100km/h.

[naturalyshocked]

dsg is also more fuel effcient than a gearbox

a normal auto trannie is les fuel efficient.

close to 2 liter more on the 100km than a normal gearbox.

but a 8 cyl with a normal gearbox wil die sooner, you change alot.

[naturalyshocked]

check my typos, there are more than one of them.

i know it's only 1 chain on the 4 cyl and 2 of these chains on some of the v6.

europeans have a more tight tax system.

some people like diesel, but want buy one, because they don't make that many km anualy. people that drive lots, like 60.000, but a diesel.

diesel cars are higher taxed @ buy and anualy.

[naturalyshocked]

diesel cars have also a higher resel price, than gasoline engines.

you can buy a used audi a8(8 years old) for 10.000€ +/-, you can buy a smal diesel new for 10.000 and stil resel for it more than 2000€ after 8 yeas.

: )

those a realy market data.

[gomo2000]

now...put it to H22

[sephirot1998]

good video!!