Wow guy's are ya'll still worked up about this? Now with that being said I do agree that this was a horribly officiated game probably only second to Kings vs Lakers early 2000's, and I'm a spur fan. (Bruce Bowen's knee wasn't intentional though) But it was just this game, not trying to sound cocky or anything of the sort, but is it so hard to believe that we still would've won the series without this game.
@slipknotian99 LOL!! you cannot tell me with all of the videos dedicated to revealing how dirty a player bowen was that the knee directly to the balls was not unintentional.
those couple of flying kicks and the constant shuffling under the jump shot say it all about bowen.
@scotthebruce2 Hey I never said anything about the high kicks as far as I know he got a foul for them, also I'm not sure what 'shuffling under the jump shot' means. The knee to the balls I believe was unintentional, he said that it was and when I watch the vid it looks like he's just trying to create space. It's funny to me that people hate on him for a few times he did something soooo dirty, but don't recognize how great of a 1 on 1 defensive player he actually was.
@slipknotian99 bowen would move under someone after jumping for a shot and push them as they landed on him - it caused a number of injuries, and is pretty well documented so long as you can suspend whatever humor you see in people pointing out the obvious, or "hating" as you call it.
bruce bowen was a dirty player, period, end of story.
there are plenty of videos and polls out there that show just how many people agree with me by a wide margin.
@scotthebruce2 Hey I'm not disagreeing. Bruce Bowen was a dirty, aggressive player who did whatever he wanted to get a win. Though I can't say I agree with intentionally moving himself under a player, that happens consistently in the NBA, heck I just saw it happen the other night. My main point though is it's funny how everyone wants to focus on those times he did act dirty and not the numerous other times he legitimately got stops on above average players. Top notch defender.
If you see Nash angry, something's wrong. The guy is so chill and laid back he doesn't ever bitch unless something bad is going on. This shit is ridiculous.
being a spurs fan i remember when i was watching this i was saying to myself how messed up this incident was. i felt so bad for sun fans, i would rather have my team lose to a fair game to the suns than to advance the western conference in bullshit one sided officiating. nba seriously needs to start a reform with its referees.
The dude who made this video is right this game was setup and who every think it was not are you blind i dislike both of these teams but i feel that the game should have been fair. I bet Steve Nash would have his ring if they called the right calls. Every body knows that Steve Nash should have a ring.
@andy1232554 All sports are rigged especially during big time games....if they werent then why did Tim get fired and along with so many other refs that have been caught...
I fucking hate those dumb bitches jeering at mike d at 5:30. They probably barely understand the concept of the game, or what a foul even is. Fucking morons don't realize it was a horrible call. It's just immature to cheer at their coach like that.
My High school principal is Tim Donaghy's cousin. We had ultimate frisbee club and he referee some of our games, every time there was a bad call I would say that I guess it runs in the family LOL
@davd1986 Just mad cause Nash would get his pocket picked every-time he went at Bowen. Nash knew he was risking getting a knee to his junk, but instead decided to get right up on Bowen. I would've done the same thing.
@raymondscroggins69 nash wasn't getting his pocket picked. he was obviously getting fouled, even the announcers saw it. if you say you would do the same thing when someone's playing tight D on you it just makes you sound like a dirty player. no one in the league knees ppl in the groin and bruce bowen's was obviously intentional. nash is a tough ass player, you can obviously see that from the big band-aid on his nose.
This is why I do not watch NBA anymore.... Either the players are damn babies.... or in this case, the refs are actual crooks... glad donaghy got what was coming to him...
@UltumiateNBAFan Im a Lakers fan, but I was pulling for the Suns in 06. I believe that and 10 were their best chances of winning a ring. Steve Nash deserves a ring.
poor nash god bless the suns i miss stoudemire, wed have a great team if we didn't have Robert Sarver as our owner. When Steve Kerr was GM I believe he made one bad choice but had an overall good tenure, he wanted to give Amar'e a Max contract, Sarver doesn't have much money, compared to the rest of the NBA owners. Kerr quit because of SARVER. Robert Sarver is not a basketball man but a Banker. poor suns :(
@SirMr35durantula What that he's a winner and that he deserves a ring but he hasn't achieved it yet? I don't know what caused you to say that but I'm sure that I didn't say anything offensive.
@AustinHansen Its illegal to gamble on games, or change calls to recieve money. It has been said for years that the NBA and NFL are like the WWE. Meaning they are scripted and just for entertainment.
I actually like the Suns and respect Nash/Stoudamire legion: but the media's blown this out of proportions, it's insane frankly. Insane. The last play is a blatant foul on Nash, while the rest is fine.
Please reply if you want to DISCUSS those plays, as I won't read if not.
@jasper2008ify So all of these guys are just players who sucked and couldn't get a ring and championship? Or... what? I don't completely understand what you're getting at. They play not to become winners but try to accomplish a goal? I disagree with that, they play because they want to prove they're winners. Winning a ring just gives more incentive to prove they're even bigger winners. It all matters about winning, not rings. Rings are a perk to winning, not the reason they play.
@jasper2008ify Does Kevin Durant have a ring? Does Vince Carter have a ring? T-Mac? Amare Stoudemire? What about Grant Hill? John Wall? Blake Griffin? Sure they're rookies, but are they winners? Say what you want about Lebron James but he's just as good as any other player and better than most. Does Penny Hardaway have a ring? As far as I know he doesn't. You're saying that every single one of these people are losers? If you do, then I have no hope for you and thus give up.
@thebossin305 I'm just glad that that post is in the top comments so people can see how stupid comparing people with rings to those who don't have rings are complete imbeciles. And at least half the people who do have rings don't even deserve them, most of them were just bench players that sucked .
@Hinasil i think what most people hate about lebron is that he left clevland in that fashion you dont have to make a t.v show out of it jus get traded there, he did get traded because he wants a ring but thats why most people get traded.
great now nash is gonna have 2 retire without a ring... nash spent most of his life perfecting his skills in basketball, spent 14 years in the nba (working hard) and he now is close 2 retiring and will proly no ever have a ring because of some piece of shit ref that has no soul. i say tim donaghy should die.. my opinion
Alright alright already, you guys are just haters that hate. Apparently you hate so much that you just want to start spamming me with long and pointless paragraphs and numbers. I have a life so stop replying to my posts.
i never like the spurs, i never like the spurs fans what ever happen to those good old times with MJ larry bird, ewing and those good loving fans but this is just sad the fans knew the refs are calling bad calls even the spurs just sad i will be glad they will never win a nba championship or at least for a long time
I'm so glad I can made a difference in the world, one comment and I have 2 responses. *Sniff* I'm just glad I can actually change the world while the other Spurs fans are just flaming over me.
@tjdebard Except the times where they get cut a break like that Joe Crawford one against the Trail Blazers I think, but that's like 1 in a million chance and I love Crawford for doing that.
As a suns fan in this series I felt the suns were robbed but this sort of carry on has been happening for years look 06 season were Dallas got robbed players looking at Wade got fouled.Lakers and Celtic season before last game 7 Lakers got every damn call in the fourth quarter refs handed them another championship,the infamous Lakers Kings series maybe the worst case of rigging the NBA has ever seen.The NBA as no i repeat no creditability now days they need to replace all the refs and Stern
@Beicon55 I don't think they owned the Suns year after year after year after year, they just had fixed games that made it so they couldn't win. How many times do I have to say it? Spurs are so boring the refs have to fix games to get a bit more views and make it so they can get into the Playoffs and hope they'll have more views and get more money so they won't suck anymore.
@don- are u telling me Bowen was a clean strip? Did u even watch the video? You can't run into somebody who's dribbling the ball. Hoary slapped nash on the arm so that's a foul
@TheGiftbringer There is no way to disagree with that. I feel so bad for the Suns, cuz that was one of their last few chances to get to the championship
@TheGiftbringer yeah this was bad, not as bad as my kings in 2002 but prob a close second, i love nash and wish he could get a ring before he retires, but i dont see that happening :(
hmm so lebron would have had his ring if there was no tim donaghy huh? the spurs wouldnt have won the 07 nba finals if he wasnt making calls like these anyway...
NBA = WWE, it's a soap opera that makes you mad and happy. I'm just glad the good part is on, where both Lakers and Spurs are a non factor in this years championship run.
I'm pretty sure we don't have to worry about Spurs getting the special treatment anymore. They got toppled in the first round, which they deserved and that cocksucker Robert Horry who tackled his way to a championship is finally at home sucking dick. Fuck Spurs.
Only an idiot would think that the refs sabotaged the Suns in that series-- the Spurs are boring! No one outside of San Antonio wants to watch them because they play team game. Bottomline: The Suns lost, because the Spurs' defense was one of the best in NBA history. Not to mention they've the greatest power-forward of all-time, Tim Duncan.
@MrFoodnSex You just contradicted yourself there, kid. Why would Stern and co. command his minions(refs) to help the Spurs reach the championship? They are boring and a small market team. The Spurs won because of their defense-- on the other hand, the Suns can score, but their defense was just awful! Did you watch the game, kid? On the other hand, about Tim Duncan: he's the greatest power-forward of all-time. Only a Spurs-hater would deny it. I guess you're one of them, kid.
@MyVicariousness28 So the refs didn't favor the Spurs that year then? I'm pretty sure the refs favored the Spurs. And, like, pretty much everyone here doesn't think the spurs won because of their defense.
@MrFoodnSex "And, like, pretty much everyone here doesn't think the spurs won because of their defense." Yeah, no wonder they've won 4 championships, and has had been in the playoffs since Tim Duncan's debut, 13 years, and was one of the top three teams in points allowed and opponents field goal percentage, until 2008 to the present.
@MyVicariousness28 That's why they got beat by an 8th seeded team this year. hahaha. And I never said anything about their past championship runs. All I'm saying is that those faggy refs like to suck the Spurs, and Lakers dicks. Can't believe some people are fans of such a boring team. Guess it's how you western human beings do things.
@MrFoodnSex Just by looking at the obscene words you typed, I'm pretty sure you're just some hater who can't withstand winners or get jealous to others pretty easily. Hey, I'm a Spurs fan myself, but when they lost, the other team was the better team. I don't make excuses, unlike somebody. The Spurs lost to Memphis, fair and square. Memphis was the better team, period. I hope everyone doesn't make excuses when their team losses... but I know they'll just make excuses... just like you.
@MyVicariousness28 Ok. I sincerely hope the refs fix a game against the Spurs, so that you can call it a fair game. Good day, Sir. What I can't stand are people who don't admit a fixed game when they see one. I guess IO'd stick up for my team even if the refs cheated for them. Silly creatures human beings are these days. Only out for themselves and their own team I guess. :/
@MrFoodnSex "What I can't stand are people who don't admit a fixed game when they see one." Do you really have proof that this was a "fixed game?" Even the one who uploaded this typed on the description: "Note: I personally don't think this game was fix. But I think it was very bad officiated." I think you're the one who in denial about this. The Suns lost, the Spurs won. One team wins not solely because of the refs, but because they were the better team.
@MyVicariousness28 Fine, whatever you may think about this game, still doesn't change the fact the refs heavily favored the spurs. Even in some game, I forget which when Ginobli missed a free layup and they called foul. You call it bad officiating, I call it fixed. All in all, you can't deny the fact the refs played a major role in helping the Spurs win the championship that year
@MyVicariousness28 What I want to know is why you're calling the Spurs the better team, they got swept by the Suns a few years later and this year they were the best in the league and lost to the number 8 seed in the playoffs. If you want to argue that the Spurs were better, I can argue with you but don't even get it in your thick little head that the Spurs are better. They just rely on overrated Tim Duncan and moron Bonner along with the worst player in the league Manu Ginobili.
@Hinasil the spurs are the better team because they dominated the suns throughout the 2000's, won 4 championships. the lost to the suns with duncans fractured ankle/knee tony parkers ankle, and ginobili's ankle
no team would survive major injuries to their top 3 players. after that though, i see you are just a dumbass troll
tim duncan over rated? that must be why he's considered by all to be the best pf the game has ever seen, and a top 5 player all time...it's cuz he's over rated, duh
@Hinasil lol, you seriously that slow...see...it said tim duncan overr ated? meaning..."you think tim duncan is over rated"? it doesn't require 3 years in elementary school to figure that out. did you happen to notice how the words following that statement were words that could only be said about one of the greatest of all time?
@banklikefrankwhite1 Oh by the way Suns would have won in 2007 against the Spurs but using your logic, 3 of the Suns players were suspended by Horry causing them to come off the bench. Spurs would have lost that year if it weren't for the horrible calls and the suspensions, see you argue out of that.
@Hinasil very easy...what you are saying is speculation, not fact. the fact is, the spurs won the series 4-2, it was 2 of their 4 total losses that playoff year. give the suns stoudemire..the suns MAY have won game 5 (even though amare is more of a liability than an asset) the spurs were battle tested, 3 time champions, while the suns were regular season champs every year, then the playoffs start, everything out the window
CHAMPIONS can respond when down 3-2, you're talking about 1 game?
@banklikefrankwhite1 Not every time can a champion respond 3-2, sometimes they just have that one off night that costs them the game and their chances for a championship. And what do you mean I'm talking about 1 game? 1 game can mean everything
@Hinasil did you watch the finals this year? did you see how bad the nba/refs wanted the heat to win?
what happened? a TRUE champion took over each 4th quarters..and gave a big fuck you to lebron the magician(for the disappearing acts), david stern, and gamblers everywhere.
no...one game can't mean anything...4 games mean everything
i've seen a team lose by 31 points in a game 4, come back and take the pivotal game 5 (yep, it's them spurs again..them champions), and many crushing defeats.
@banklikefrankwhite1 Champions win, I think you're referring to the Spurs? If they're a champion, then why must they rely on flopping and being little babies that cry over small things. I've seen how stupid they look after they bump their little noggin, they act like they're dying. Manu, the king of flops and wimpiness, just disgusts me when I look at him. It doesn't take a champ to win, just a Golden Globe.
@Hinasil hmm, they rely on flopping? ginobili's flops make up MAYBE 3 foul calls every 2 games. lebron, wade, gasol, and paul pierce are all worse than ginobili...nobody says anything about them. it takes a champ to win....as ginobili showed the HEAVILY favored american team in the olympics...the american team with lebron and wade
The only real champ is Steve Nash for being able to play every game even after he gets knocked in the face and starts bleeding, would Ginobili do that? Parker? Duncan? No they'd act like sissies and start crying, Nash played with one eye nearly shut and hit 3's in 2010 WCF against those "Champ" Spurs. Any one of the Spurs would either be on the bench, running to their mommy or doing worse. Champs don't have to win, they win if they show they're better not by some stupid ring.
@Hinasil steve nash is an amazing player...but not a champ. it's not his fault either...and yes, manu would be playing..did you not see him playing with a broken arm this year? he has some major injury EVERY year...still out there giving it all. you're just making stuff up now..everyone knows how tough duncan and manu are.
and it was nice to see nash FINALLY get playoff wins against the spurs last year..even if all of the big three were injured and old..too bad they couldn't do more though
@Hinasil oh, and thanks for admitting that instead of ginobili being the "worst player in the league" he's actually somewhere between the second best, and fifth best shooting guard in the league.
@Hinasil they have never relied on bonner, and you'd have to be pretty stupid to call manu the worst player in the league, you couldn't even name 5 nba sg's better than him right now...he's a world champion, nba champion, and euroleague champion...all while being the leader of the team (except in 2003)
@banklikefrankwhite1 I might not be able to name 5 but I could come close Kobe Bryant, Dwayne Wade, Joe Johnson, Jason Richardson, there's 4 let's see if I can name more. Jason Terry, umm, what position does Tony Allen play? There's 6. Are you limiting this to the current NBA or all time?
@Hinasil kobe..in all years besides this one...yes...this year, no. wade, obviously, jonhson...eeehhhhhhhh that's highly debatable..and jason richardson? you serious right now? obviously the tony allen thing was an attempt to be funny..that's respectable, he did play WAY beyond his means in the spurs series so i see why you said him...but no, you got 2
jason terry...not all year, but damn sure this playoff year. so...by YOUR estimation, you have ginobili at somewhere between 2 and 5...
@banklikefrankwhite1 that's somewhere AT LEAST 27 sg's (only counting starters) or at least 54 sg's better than you originally stated...would you agree to this? so instead of ginobili being the worst player in the league..you'd say he's top 5 at his postion, therefor making him at least top 20 in the nba currently? (centers don't count..since there is one good one in the nba) that's a big gap friend
@MyVicariousness28 Thank you. The Spurs won because they were the best Period at the time. 3/4 of the plays shown were legitimate fouls or takeways. Horry cleaning stripped Nash. Duncan got the ball 1st on Amare, which contact is allowed afterwards if that is the case. Amare needs to stop throwing elbows, even though I think Oberto flopped. But he raised his elbow and the refs are going to call an Offensive foul everytime.
Suns would have won in '07 if Nash didn't flop like an idiot.
The NBA has seemingly been against the Spurs for years. PHO would have been a bigger draw for the Finals that year. Why would they sabotage it for the Spurs? Doesn't make much sense to me. Also, not all of those calls were from Tim Donaghy. Unless all the Refs were in it together, it doesn't make sense to me. I really dont care as I dont like either team. Just my opinion.
There were a couple of flops(Gino & Tim),but some of those are normal no calls that refs miss all the time.A couple were terrible,but some were just normal things that happen in the paint all the time.This happens almost every game in the NBA,regular season or POs.People only bring it up when the media does,or when their team is on the line.It happens to every team all the time.Officiating has been terrible far a decade.Also why would the NBA possibly want the Spurs to win?
Okay, Donaghy was betting on the games, but I'm convinced what he also said is true, that the refs across the entire league frequently alter the outcome of games with bogus calls and non-calls. This is just one of many games like this.
Man!, I hate ref when they call fouls that are so bullshit!!! It's a shame when people use their power to control their own agenda! WAT happen to thee good old days when a team beat another team, they actually did? I guess people should realize how Yao Ming feels now.
If you want to see a fixed game check out the last quarter of the heat bulls game last night...o and what do you know the heat covered the fucking spread.
Granted we did lose 3 out of 4 games that season we did win the last one. Every single game the suns were on San Antonio's heals that season. Scored 97 one game every other game we scored 110 or more. And we won a respectable 55 games that season as well. 61 the year before. As ANGRY as i am at this i i do have to say at the least the games would have been a lot closer. I truly believe the suns should have taken it that year. F*** bad referring and scandalous M***** f******.
Ref's always been doing this since forever..The Kings, Suns, Jazz were supposed to win one or two championships in their team prime but Stern didn't want them to win so he told the refs to make the other team win so he can make more money instead of letting this great game being played....Nash should have won a championship
The Money theme song ruined the video for me
zaslater 2 days ago
100% rig job
mikemagz 3 days ago
Wow guy's are ya'll still worked up about this? Now with that being said I do agree that this was a horribly officiated game probably only second to Kings vs Lakers early 2000's, and I'm a spur fan. (Bruce Bowen's knee wasn't intentional though) But it was just this game, not trying to sound cocky or anything of the sort, but is it so hard to believe that we still would've won the series without this game.
slipknotian99 4 days ago
@slipknotian99 LOL!! you cannot tell me with all of the videos dedicated to revealing how dirty a player bowen was that the knee directly to the balls was not unintentional.
those couple of flying kicks and the constant shuffling under the jump shot say it all about bowen.
scotthebruce2 1 day ago
@scotthebruce2 Hey I never said anything about the high kicks as far as I know he got a foul for them, also I'm not sure what 'shuffling under the jump shot' means. The knee to the balls I believe was unintentional, he said that it was and when I watch the vid it looks like he's just trying to create space. It's funny to me that people hate on him for a few times he did something soooo dirty, but don't recognize how great of a 1 on 1 defensive player he actually was.
slipknotian99 1 day ago
@slipknotian99 bowen would move under someone after jumping for a shot and push them as they landed on him - it caused a number of injuries, and is pretty well documented so long as you can suspend whatever humor you see in people pointing out the obvious, or "hating" as you call it.
bruce bowen was a dirty player, period, end of story.
there are plenty of videos and polls out there that show just how many people agree with me by a wide margin.
scotthebruce2 1 day ago
@scotthebruce2 Hey I'm not disagreeing. Bruce Bowen was a dirty, aggressive player who did whatever he wanted to get a win. Though I can't say I agree with intentionally moving himself under a player, that happens consistently in the NBA, heck I just saw it happen the other night. My main point though is it's funny how everyone wants to focus on those times he did act dirty and not the numerous other times he legitimately got stops on above average players. Top notch defender.
slipknotian99 1 day ago
This is so frustrating to watch.
EnriqueFelipe 1 week ago
Spurs fans are the worst
Slightlystoopid1990 1 week ago
@Slightlystoopid1990 Are you sun's fan? If so I guess I can understand why you'd say that (maybe) but no Lakers fans are indeed the worst.
slipknotian99 4 days ago
If you see Nash angry, something's wrong. The guy is so chill and laid back he doesn't ever bitch unless something bad is going on. This shit is ridiculous.
SilentNoise92 1 week ago
look at that stupid curly haired woman at 5:24
MrDarksword123 1 week ago
being a spurs fan i remember when i was watching this i was saying to myself how messed up this incident was. i felt so bad for sun fans, i would rather have my team lose to a fair game to the suns than to advance the western conference in bullshit one sided officiating. nba seriously needs to start a reform with its referees.
combo360 2 weeks ago 2
Suns suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jcsky07 2 weeks ago
as a suns fan i i watch this and i cry
azfanatic44 2 weeks ago
Mike Breen is such an apologist for the nba.
HanzSygnal 3 weeks ago
obv call at 6:18
Elyseis2fly 3 weeks ago
The dude who made this video is right this game was setup and who every think it was not are you blind i dislike both of these teams but i feel that the game should have been fair. I bet Steve Nash would have his ring if they called the right calls. Every body knows that Steve Nash should have a ring.
insanebeastleon 3 weeks ago
losser who think nba is rigged cannot accept there team is lost
losser
andy1232554 3 weeks ago
@andy1232554 did you mean "loser"? hahaha
danieldemon20 3 weeks ago
@andy1232554 All sports are rigged especially during big time games....if they werent then why did Tim get fired and along with so many other refs that have been caught...
Fresh6s 2 weeks ago
this is disgusting.
MasterMik332 3 weeks ago
as an NBA fan this is one of the most frustrating things ive ever seen
2hoyas 1 month ago
Nash would have a ring by now if this didn't happen. My god.
DzekoVelez 1 month ago
I fucking hate those dumb bitches jeering at mike d at 5:30. They probably barely understand the concept of the game, or what a foul even is. Fucking morons don't realize it was a horrible call. It's just immature to cheer at their coach like that.
MCskittle23 1 month ago
this is absurd, those are plain horrible and rigged calls.
MrDarksword123 1 month ago
fuckin corruption is the grimyest of the the grime
swede6666 1 month ago
Lol this guys a legend... Cant stand when i bet on a game and it seems like the refs are favoring that team
atlbraves1025 1 month ago
Spurs played dirty.
gemini850 1 month ago
My High school principal is Tim Donaghy's cousin. We had ultimate frisbee club and he referee some of our games, every time there was a bad call I would say that I guess it runs in the family LOL
Kulpie34 2 months ago
Bruce Bowen is a dirty POS. He would have fit in quite nicely with the Utah Jazz of the 80's and 90's.
davd1986 2 months ago
@davd1986 Just mad cause Nash would get his pocket picked every-time he went at Bowen. Nash knew he was risking getting a knee to his junk, but instead decided to get right up on Bowen. I would've done the same thing.
raymondscroggins69 1 month ago
@raymondscroggins69 nash wasn't getting his pocket picked. he was obviously getting fouled, even the announcers saw it. if you say you would do the same thing when someone's playing tight D on you it just makes you sound like a dirty player. no one in the league knees ppl in the groin and bruce bowen's was obviously intentional. nash is a tough ass player, you can obviously see that from the big band-aid on his nose.
wu2fresh 2 weeks ago
like thats shocking every sport is rigged
Tomataduplenty1 2 months ago
If it weren't for these refs Nash would probably have a ring now.
Hyperactiveheadshot 2 months ago
best part: fans clapping, shows how much some fans know.....
alexjxcx 2 months ago
Song at 0:23 is SECOND COMING BY SANTANA
iZain23 2 months ago
David Stern is the fucking trash, cause he payed the referees to get the most popular team to be champion
tutubapo 2 months ago
@tutubapo The spurs are the most popular team? Are you kidding me?
MrBungwung 2 months ago
today's basketball is basketball plus drama
JuzUrGero 3 months ago
Jeez the suns were a good team that year :)
MutantHaydon 3 months ago
danng ...
notice @ 2:13, nash pass's is fucking DEAD on at stoudamire's face
swag.
ccchrv 3 months ago
You see all the spurs fans look all cocky and shit, as if they couldnt see that it the suns had a reason to be upset.
awsomebballer 3 months ago
Whats the song called?????????
bbdog141414 3 months ago
WHATS THE SONG AT :23????
bbdog141414 3 months ago
i watch a video so I DONT have to read, why is there a paragraph in the beginning?
MotelMan67 3 months ago
This is why I do not watch NBA anymore.... Either the players are damn babies.... or in this case, the refs are actual crooks... glad donaghy got what was coming to him...
Jip027 4 months ago
i couldnt even bare to watch this if i were dantoni i wouldve pulled my players off the court
liljfizzer22 4 months ago 11
suns suck spurs where the better team
KoRnSwitCh1 4 months ago
i would have bitch slapped a ref
MrFan32 4 months ago
one word, "wow"
animaluvee 4 months ago
@ThePhoenixSunsFan: I agree with you. I hate to see what has happened now to the NBA. I also think that the Suns could've won it in '06
UltumiateNBAFan 5 months ago
@UltumiateNBAFan Im a Lakers fan, but I was pulling for the Suns in 06. I believe that and 10 were their best chances of winning a ring. Steve Nash deserves a ring.
XxAdelaide1994xX 3 months ago
It makes me sad to see this happen in the NBA and to my favorite team,we couldve had rings right now
ThePhoenixSunsFan 5 months ago
NASH CROSSED THE SHIT OUT OF HIM TOOK IT TO THE RACK AND GOT FOULED...our time will come...TO RISE ABOVE ALL ODDS.
MrZackBundles 5 months ago
jesus christ this makes me sick
vafleezers 5 months ago
poor nash god bless the suns i miss stoudemire, wed have a great team if we didn't have Robert Sarver as our owner. When Steve Kerr was GM I believe he made one bad choice but had an overall good tenure, he wanted to give Amar'e a Max contract, Sarver doesn't have much money, compared to the rest of the NBA owners. Kerr quit because of SARVER. Robert Sarver is not a basketball man but a Banker. poor suns :(
vafleezers 5 months ago
If it wasn't for those refs Phoenix would of had a title.
codysvideos13 5 months ago
complete bullshit
jayjkl 6 months ago 16
@SirMr35durantula What that he's a winner and that he deserves a ring but he hasn't achieved it yet? I don't know what caused you to say that but I'm sure that I didn't say anything offensive.
Hinasil 6 months ago
hahah canadian idiots wathcing this shit on "The Score"
majiicpu3D 6 months ago
lmao the meaning of this video is bullshit! SPURS own the suns nuff said.
mlo9357 6 months ago
LOL and you guys thought the 02 finals was fixed this crap is attrocious
Arun999 6 months ago
The FBI investigates this kinda thing?
AustinHansen 6 months ago
@AustinHansen Its illegal to gamble on games, or change calls to recieve money. It has been said for years that the NBA and NFL are like the WWE. Meaning they are scripted and just for entertainment.
gemini850 5 months ago
@gemini850 oh i see. i just didnt know they dealt with sports and that stuff.
AustinHansen 5 months ago
this is why i think they beat CAVS becuase of refs
MrIamabitch 6 months ago
I actually like the Suns and respect Nash/Stoudamire legion: but the media's blown this out of proportions, it's insane frankly. Insane. The last play is a blatant foul on Nash, while the rest is fine.
Please reply if you want to DISCUSS those plays, as I won't read if not.
yoe91 6 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
funniest part of the video: 5:23 (in the background)
jaredleiferman 6 months ago
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jaredleiferman 6 months ago
This made me really mad.
stevenowitzki 6 months ago
@stevenowitzki me too
wam226 6 months ago
@jasper2008ify So all of these guys are just players who sucked and couldn't get a ring and championship? Or... what? I don't completely understand what you're getting at. They play not to become winners but try to accomplish a goal? I disagree with that, they play because they want to prove they're winners. Winning a ring just gives more incentive to prove they're even bigger winners. It all matters about winning, not rings. Rings are a perk to winning, not the reason they play.
Hinasil 6 months ago
@jasper2008ify Does Kevin Durant have a ring? Does Vince Carter have a ring? T-Mac? Amare Stoudemire? What about Grant Hill? John Wall? Blake Griffin? Sure they're rookies, but are they winners? Say what you want about Lebron James but he's just as good as any other player and better than most. Does Penny Hardaway have a ring? As far as I know he doesn't. You're saying that every single one of these people are losers? If you do, then I have no hope for you and thus give up.
Hinasil 6 months ago 4
@Hinasil I know right people don't realize how few people actually have rings
thebossin305 6 months ago
@thebossin305 I'm just glad that that post is in the top comments so people can see how stupid comparing people with rings to those who don't have rings are complete imbeciles. And at least half the people who do have rings don't even deserve them, most of them were just bench players that sucked .
Hinasil 6 months ago
@Hinasil i think what most people hate about lebron is that he left clevland in that fashion you dont have to make a t.v show out of it jus get traded there, he did get traded because he wants a ring but thats why most people get traded.
TheMrXism 6 months ago
@Hinasil not a loser...but definitely not a "king"
SuperNBAMixtape 4 months ago
great now nash is gonna have 2 retire without a ring... nash spent most of his life perfecting his skills in basketball, spent 14 years in the nba (working hard) and he now is close 2 retiring and will proly no ever have a ring because of some piece of shit ref that has no soul. i say tim donaghy should die.. my opinion
staanar001 6 months ago
Alright alright already, you guys are just haters that hate. Apparently you hate so much that you just want to start spamming me with long and pointless paragraphs and numbers. I have a life so stop replying to my posts.
Hinasil 6 months ago
if i was anyone associated with the suns at that game i would punch the shit out of tim d.
zupmarc36 6 months ago
i never like the spurs, i never like the spurs fans what ever happen to those good old times with MJ larry bird, ewing and those good loving fans but this is just sad the fans knew the refs are calling bad calls even the spurs just sad i will be glad they will never win a nba championship or at least for a long time
Kojoizfreshz 6 months ago
I'm so glad I can made a difference in the world, one comment and I have 2 responses. *Sniff* I'm just glad I can actually change the world while the other Spurs fans are just flaming over me.
Hinasil 6 months ago
The only people in the NBA who like the Spurs are their own fans, and Stern. The Spurs are the PUSSY FRANCHISE.
I'm a huge Suns fan, they have to earn everything they get with no breaks. They win and lose like true men.
tjdebard 6 months ago
@tjdebard Except the times where they get cut a break like that Joe Crawford one against the Trail Blazers I think, but that's like 1 in a million chance and I love Crawford for doing that.
Hinasil 6 months ago
THE SPURS PEE SITTING DOWN! PUSSIES!
tjdebard 6 months ago
the spurs and lakers fans are the worst fans EVAR in sports for knowing that the refs are cheating and cheer it for
acdcrocks304 6 months ago
As a suns fan in this series I felt the suns were robbed but this sort of carry on has been happening for years look 06 season were Dallas got robbed players looking at Wade got fouled.Lakers and Celtic season before last game 7 Lakers got every damn call in the fourth quarter refs handed them another championship,the infamous Lakers Kings series maybe the worst case of rigging the NBA has ever seen.The NBA as no i repeat no creditability now days they need to replace all the refs and Stern
nash3timemvp 6 months ago
@Beicon55 I don't think they owned the Suns year after year after year after year, they just had fixed games that made it so they couldn't win. How many times do I have to say it? Spurs are so boring the refs have to fix games to get a bit more views and make it so they can get into the Playoffs and hope they'll have more views and get more money so they won't suck anymore.
Hinasil 7 months ago
@don- are u telling me Bowen was a clean strip? Did u even watch the video? You can't run into somebody who's dribbling the ball. Hoary slapped nash on the arm so that's a foul
eLewis1111 7 months ago
i bet steve nash will probably end up getting traded to a better team in the future and win a champioship ring
TheGiftbringer 7 months ago
Thumbs up for if the reefees wasn't biased then Steve Nash would probably won a championship ring!!!!!
TheGiftbringer 7 months ago 60
@TheGiftbringer There is no way to disagree with that. I feel so bad for the Suns, cuz that was one of their last few chances to get to the championship
abcdsidney 7 months ago
@TheGiftbringer yeah this was bad, not as bad as my kings in 2002 but prob a close second, i love nash and wish he could get a ring before he retires, but i dont see that happening :(
wildchild911105 7 months ago
@TheGiftbringer Nash plays defense like a girl scout....that is why he has not won anything
PacificKillsquad 3 months ago
ok thumbs up if you live for sports
gstar123aid 7 months ago
hmm so lebron would have had his ring if there was no tim donaghy huh? the spurs wouldnt have won the 07 nba finals if he wasnt making calls like these anyway...
martyxcallsiefer 7 months ago
@martyxcallsiefer hey genius..the spurs lost 4 games that year in the playoffs...total
so yeah...this one game is certainly what did it lol
4 games, out of 20 might be time to rethink things
banklikefrankwhite1 7 months ago
@banklikefrankwhite1 lets say the spurs didnt make it to the nba finals
martyxcallsiefer 7 months ago
FUCK DONAGHY AND FUCK THE FUCKING SPURS
numonesunsfan14 7 months ago
FUCK DONAGHY AND FUCK THE FUCKING SPURS
numonesunsfan14 7 months ago
I remember that game. its sad... that was our year to win! go suns
ckdafinest 7 months ago
shawn marion has a big ass head and tim duncan is a pussy
AJess1993 7 months ago
God i hate the spurs.
whatupson4 7 months ago
NBA = WWE, it's a soap opera that makes you mad and happy. I'm just glad the good part is on, where both Lakers and Spurs are a non factor in this years championship run.
MrFoodnSex 7 months ago
I'm pretty sure we don't have to worry about Spurs getting the special treatment anymore. They got toppled in the first round, which they deserved and that cocksucker Robert Horry who tackled his way to a championship is finally at home sucking dick. Fuck Spurs.
MrFoodnSex 7 months ago
wow i never knew it look like this...this shit just make me feel sick to my stomache...
this is just horrible...plain horrible...somebodies gotta kill these referees
suikski 7 months ago
This series was a fix; it's in Donaghy's book.
utuber586 7 months ago
tru...this wasn't set up....plus it was only game 3 who cares...and all of those plays were legal it looked like
dal2ubied 7 months ago
Only an idiot would think that the refs sabotaged the Suns in that series-- the Spurs are boring! No one outside of San Antonio wants to watch them because they play team game. Bottomline: The Suns lost, because the Spurs' defense was one of the best in NBA history. Not to mention they've the greatest power-forward of all-time, Tim Duncan.
MyVicariousness28 7 months ago
@MyVicariousness28 Everything you said is bullcrap, except the fact that the Spurs are a boring team, and you know it.
MrFoodnSex 7 months ago
@MrFoodnSex You just contradicted yourself there, kid. Why would Stern and co. command his minions(refs) to help the Spurs reach the championship? They are boring and a small market team. The Spurs won because of their defense-- on the other hand, the Suns can score, but their defense was just awful! Did you watch the game, kid? On the other hand, about Tim Duncan: he's the greatest power-forward of all-time. Only a Spurs-hater would deny it. I guess you're one of them, kid.
MyVicariousness28 7 months ago
@MyVicariousness28 So the refs didn't favor the Spurs that year then? I'm pretty sure the refs favored the Spurs. And, like, pretty much everyone here doesn't think the spurs won because of their defense.
MrFoodnSex 7 months ago
@MrFoodnSex "And, like, pretty much everyone here doesn't think the spurs won because of their defense." Yeah, no wonder they've won 4 championships, and has had been in the playoffs since Tim Duncan's debut, 13 years, and was one of the top three teams in points allowed and opponents field goal percentage, until 2008 to the present.
MyVicariousness28 7 months ago
@MyVicariousness28 That's why they got beat by an 8th seeded team this year. hahaha. And I never said anything about their past championship runs. All I'm saying is that those faggy refs like to suck the Spurs, and Lakers dicks. Can't believe some people are fans of such a boring team. Guess it's how you western human beings do things.
MrFoodnSex 7 months ago
@MrFoodnSex Just by looking at the obscene words you typed, I'm pretty sure you're just some hater who can't withstand winners or get jealous to others pretty easily. Hey, I'm a Spurs fan myself, but when they lost, the other team was the better team. I don't make excuses, unlike somebody. The Spurs lost to Memphis, fair and square. Memphis was the better team, period. I hope everyone doesn't make excuses when their team losses... but I know they'll just make excuses... just like you.
MyVicariousness28 7 months ago
@MyVicariousness28 Ok. I sincerely hope the refs fix a game against the Spurs, so that you can call it a fair game. Good day, Sir. What I can't stand are people who don't admit a fixed game when they see one. I guess IO'd stick up for my team even if the refs cheated for them. Silly creatures human beings are these days. Only out for themselves and their own team I guess. :/
MrFoodnSex 7 months ago
@MrFoodnSex "What I can't stand are people who don't admit a fixed game when they see one." Do you really have proof that this was a "fixed game?" Even the one who uploaded this typed on the description: "Note: I personally don't think this game was fix. But I think it was very bad officiated." I think you're the one who in denial about this. The Suns lost, the Spurs won. One team wins not solely because of the refs, but because they were the better team.
MyVicariousness28 7 months ago
@MyVicariousness28 Fine, whatever you may think about this game, still doesn't change the fact the refs heavily favored the spurs. Even in some game, I forget which when Ginobli missed a free layup and they called foul. You call it bad officiating, I call it fixed. All in all, you can't deny the fact the refs played a major role in helping the Spurs win the championship that year
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21Mrcoloradobuffs 7 months ago
@21Mrcoloradobuffs Sir, I said it was fixed. Stop calling people retarded.
MrFoodnSex 7 months ago
@MrFoodnSex The truth hurts
21Mrcoloradobuffs 7 months ago
@MyVicariousness28 What I want to know is why you're calling the Spurs the better team, they got swept by the Suns a few years later and this year they were the best in the league and lost to the number 8 seed in the playoffs. If you want to argue that the Spurs were better, I can argue with you but don't even get it in your thick little head that the Spurs are better. They just rely on overrated Tim Duncan and moron Bonner along with the worst player in the league Manu Ginobili.
Hinasil 7 months ago
@Hinasil the spurs are the better team because they dominated the suns throughout the 2000's, won 4 championships. the lost to the suns with duncans fractured ankle/knee tony parkers ankle, and ginobili's ankle
no team would survive major injuries to their top 3 players. after that though, i see you are just a dumbass troll
tim duncan over rated? that must be why he's considered by all to be the best pf the game has ever seen, and a top 5 player all time...it's cuz he's over rated, duh
banklikefrankwhite1 7 months ago
@banklikefrankwhite1 Exactly so what are you getting at? Don't even come back with an argument you even said he's overrated.
Hinasil 7 months ago
@Hinasil lol, you seriously that slow...see...it said tim duncan overr ated? meaning..."you think tim duncan is over rated"? it doesn't require 3 years in elementary school to figure that out. did you happen to notice how the words following that statement were words that could only be said about one of the greatest of all time?
it's ok, deep breath, count to 10
banklikefrankwhite1 7 months ago
@banklikefrankwhite1 Oh by the way Suns would have won in 2007 against the Spurs but using your logic, 3 of the Suns players were suspended by Horry causing them to come off the bench. Spurs would have lost that year if it weren't for the horrible calls and the suspensions, see you argue out of that.
Hinasil 6 months ago
@Hinasil very easy...what you are saying is speculation, not fact. the fact is, the spurs won the series 4-2, it was 2 of their 4 total losses that playoff year. give the suns stoudemire..the suns MAY have won game 5 (even though amare is more of a liability than an asset) the spurs were battle tested, 3 time champions, while the suns were regular season champs every year, then the playoffs start, everything out the window
CHAMPIONS can respond when down 3-2, you're talking about 1 game?
banklikefrankwhite1 6 months ago
@banklikefrankwhite1 Not every time can a champion respond 3-2, sometimes they just have that one off night that costs them the game and their chances for a championship. And what do you mean I'm talking about 1 game? 1 game can mean everything
Hinasil 6 months ago
@Hinasil did you watch the finals this year? did you see how bad the nba/refs wanted the heat to win?
what happened? a TRUE champion took over each 4th quarters..and gave a big fuck you to lebron the magician(for the disappearing acts), david stern, and gamblers everywhere.
no...one game can't mean anything...4 games mean everything
i've seen a team lose by 31 points in a game 4, come back and take the pivotal game 5 (yep, it's them spurs again..them champions), and many crushing defeats.
banklikefrankwhite1 6 months ago
@Hinasil CHAMPIONS WIN
banklikefrankwhite1 6 months ago
@banklikefrankwhite1 Champions win, I think you're referring to the Spurs? If they're a champion, then why must they rely on flopping and being little babies that cry over small things. I've seen how stupid they look after they bump their little noggin, they act like they're dying. Manu, the king of flops and wimpiness, just disgusts me when I look at him. It doesn't take a champ to win, just a Golden Globe.
Hinasil 6 months ago
@Hinasil hmm, they rely on flopping? ginobili's flops make up MAYBE 3 foul calls every 2 games. lebron, wade, gasol, and paul pierce are all worse than ginobili...nobody says anything about them. it takes a champ to win....as ginobili showed the HEAVILY favored american team in the olympics...the american team with lebron and wade
banklikefrankwhite1 6 months ago
The only real champ is Steve Nash for being able to play every game even after he gets knocked in the face and starts bleeding, would Ginobili do that? Parker? Duncan? No they'd act like sissies and start crying, Nash played with one eye nearly shut and hit 3's in 2010 WCF against those "Champ" Spurs. Any one of the Spurs would either be on the bench, running to their mommy or doing worse. Champs don't have to win, they win if they show they're better not by some stupid ring.
Hinasil 6 months ago
@Hinasil steve nash is an amazing player...but not a champ. it's not his fault either...and yes, manu would be playing..did you not see him playing with a broken arm this year? he has some major injury EVERY year...still out there giving it all. you're just making stuff up now..everyone knows how tough duncan and manu are.
and it was nice to see nash FINALLY get playoff wins against the spurs last year..even if all of the big three were injured and old..too bad they couldn't do more though
banklikefrankwhite1 6 months ago
@Hinasil oh, and thanks for admitting that instead of ginobili being the "worst player in the league" he's actually somewhere between the second best, and fifth best shooting guard in the league.
banklikefrankwhite1 6 months ago
@Hinasil they have never relied on bonner, and you'd have to be pretty stupid to call manu the worst player in the league, you couldn't even name 5 nba sg's better than him right now...he's a world champion, nba champion, and euroleague champion...all while being the leader of the team (except in 2003)
think before you type next time
banklikefrankwhite1 7 months ago
@banklikefrankwhite1 I might not be able to name 5 but I could come close Kobe Bryant, Dwayne Wade, Joe Johnson, Jason Richardson, there's 4 let's see if I can name more. Jason Terry, umm, what position does Tony Allen play? There's 6. Are you limiting this to the current NBA or all time?
Hinasil 7 months ago
@Hinasil kobe..in all years besides this one...yes...this year, no. wade, obviously, jonhson...eeehhhhhhhh that's highly debatable..and jason richardson? you serious right now? obviously the tony allen thing was an attempt to be funny..that's respectable, he did play WAY beyond his means in the spurs series so i see why you said him...but no, you got 2
jason terry...not all year, but damn sure this playoff year. so...by YOUR estimation, you have ginobili at somewhere between 2 and 5...
banklikefrankwhite1 7 months ago
@banklikefrankwhite1 that's somewhere AT LEAST 27 sg's (only counting starters) or at least 54 sg's better than you originally stated...would you agree to this? so instead of ginobili being the worst player in the league..you'd say he's top 5 at his postion, therefor making him at least top 20 in the nba currently? (centers don't count..since there is one good one in the nba) that's a big gap friend
banklikefrankwhite1 7 months ago
@MyVicariousness28 Thank you. The Spurs won because they were the best Period at the time. 3/4 of the plays shown were legitimate fouls or takeways. Horry cleaning stripped Nash. Duncan got the ball 1st on Amare, which contact is allowed afterwards if that is the case. Amare needs to stop throwing elbows, even though I think Oberto flopped. But he raised his elbow and the refs are going to call an Offensive foul everytime.
Suns would have won in '07 if Nash didn't flop like an idiot.
DonJuansDaddy 7 months ago
@DonJuansDaddy Did you even watch the video
IGattsI 7 months ago
they didn't look bad... typical flopping or exaggeration...
now Kobe running over Bibby in 2002 and no call, now THAT's fixed
SquishyCandyftw 7 months ago
Asterisk on this title. This entire series was fixed for SA.
utuber586 7 months ago
I guess he was betting on the under...
raulrolon7 7 months ago
Wow all thereof those refs should get fired
ryalking 7 months ago
The NBA has seemingly been against the Spurs for years. PHO would have been a bigger draw for the Finals that year. Why would they sabotage it for the Spurs? Doesn't make much sense to me. Also, not all of those calls were from Tim Donaghy. Unless all the Refs were in it together, it doesn't make sense to me. I really dont care as I dont like either team. Just my opinion.
Tristinsroux 7 months ago
There were a couple of flops(Gino & Tim),but some of those are normal no calls that refs miss all the time.A couple were terrible,but some were just normal things that happen in the paint all the time.This happens almost every game in the NBA,regular season or POs.People only bring it up when the media does,or when their team is on the line.It happens to every team all the time.Officiating has been terrible far a decade.Also why would the NBA possibly want the Spurs to win?
Tristinsroux 7 months ago
tim donaghy is the biggest piece of shit on the face of this earth .
devomedia5 7 months ago
THIS SHIT PISSES me off so FUCKEn much, I want to kick referees ass so bad
pizzle012345 7 months ago
SAME AS THE GAME LAST NIGHT FAVORING DALLAS. TOO BAD BARBOSA AND STEVE NASH GOT THEY RINGS BUT TIM DONAGHY SUCKS.
The19paul68 7 months ago
Okay, Donaghy was betting on the games, but I'm convinced what he also said is true, that the refs across the entire league frequently alter the outcome of games with bogus calls and non-calls. This is just one of many games like this.
zenmachinefilms 7 months ago
This. Is one of the many reasons the NBA is the worst league in American sports, college or pro.
packers256 7 months ago
yes that is definitely fixed w/o a doubt
mwardia1 7 months ago
Those Spurs fans are cheering on like they won the game... Little did they know what the real story was...
Tuluc 7 months ago
why do they still allow these refs to work in the nba?
like joe crawford that asshole
MrTheBeast 7 months ago
Man!, I hate ref when they call fouls that are so bullshit!!! It's a shame when people use their power to control their own agenda! WAT happen to thee good old days when a team beat another team, they actually did? I guess people should realize how Yao Ming feels now.
doua826 8 months ago
No one man should have all that power.
eafanboyssuck 8 months ago
Damn The nba is fuckin horrid
Shawnistheman420 8 months ago
What beat is this?
TheThirdWing94 8 months ago
@TheThirdWing94 The Second Coming
jmoneyboy08 8 months ago
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iJAEHCE 8 months ago
@iJAEHCE lol you said "sons". its sUns.
momandbro8 8 months ago
If you want to see a fixed game check out the last quarter of the heat bulls game last night...o and what do you know the heat covered the fucking spread.
jmtaylor32 8 months ago 4
FUCK DAVID STERN
JTEchicago 8 months ago 3
Fuckthe spurs, fuck the lakers, fuck stern, and fuck donaghy
101italiano101 8 months ago 2
3:04 LOL!!! Posada with a 7 game hit streak???!!! O wait, this was '07;)
hellomoney12 8 months ago
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11mtrucco 8 months ago
GIVE CHAMP BACK TO SUNS !!!!!!!!!!!
oliver81405 8 months ago
Sorry Suns fans, those plays are not the worst I've seen.
gwpbw 8 months ago
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iJAEHCE 8 months ago
Granted we did lose 3 out of 4 games that season we did win the last one. Every single game the suns were on San Antonio's heals that season. Scored 97 one game every other game we scored 110 or more. And we won a respectable 55 games that season as well. 61 the year before. As ANGRY as i am at this i i do have to say at the least the games would have been a lot closer. I truly believe the suns should have taken it that year. F*** bad referring and scandalous M***** f******.
Jdrbean 8 months ago
Tim Donaghy was there so CORRECT!
yellowfish32 8 months ago
Ref's always been doing this since forever..The Kings, Suns, Jazz were supposed to win one or two championships in their team prime but Stern didn't want them to win so he told the refs to make the other team win so he can make more money instead of letting this great game being played....Nash should have won a championship
useeme15 8 months ago
@useeme15 i dont agree read what i wrote it explains everythn
icruz210 8 months ago