Other way around--Raiders (Atkinson) sued the Steelers (Noll) because Noll said there was a criminal element in the NFL and Atkinson was very sensitive.
Ah, the John Madden-coached Raiders. The 90's Atlanta Braves of the NFL. Nine championship games (dating back to '67 w/his predecessor), 1 SB title. The epitome of being very good and blowing it (except once with a heck of a '76 team). At least the Flores teams won it all more.
funny how stupid fucking steeler fans still try to defend their PUSSY team! flat pussy team win 3989384757 superbowls you will always be PUSSY FAGGOTS!
Pittsburgh did not win the title the year of the 'Immaculate Reception'. The play you're referencing occurred in 1972, and Miami went undefeated and won the SB that year. In regards to the icy field, it would be more credible if Pittsburgh needed to play on a field of that nature to be victorious. But, they defeated the Raiders IN Oakland during their first SB run in 1974. They went on to win 3 more titles on various fields and locales. So, they proved themselves.
The ice field was a major advantage for Pittsburgh. Everyone knew that Oakland had a deep vertical passing game while Pittsburgh was just a running team. I love how it was really close when they played in Pittsburgh, but in Oakland in the AFC championship a year or two later, the Raiders completely blew out the Steelers.
Pittsburgh and Oakland had similar approaches. Madden was a conservative type of coach who liked to run the fullback (Van Eeghen) to set up the deep ball. Pittsburgh was similar... using the run to set up deep passes to Swann, Lewis, Stallworth, etc. YOu don't think PItt wanted to throw deep as well? ARe you forgetting what Swann did during the playoffs throughout his career? All the deep balls he caught.
I liked football during the 70's. Oak and Pit were very similar teams... tough, physical, intimidating, etc. You could flip a coin as to who would win if they played 10 times.
In the end, Pit won more titles... 4 in 6 years being more than any team has won during a span of 6 years. It doesn't mean there weren't other great teams.. but, Pit can't be shortchanged either. I loved the competition.
@eugenemcgirt Don't forget that 2 of their titles were the result of the immaculate reception and the ice field. A ridiculously lucky play that wouldn't even be called a catch today and a ridiculous terrain advantage for Pittsburgh that would be postponed today.
The matchups during 70's NFL were classic... not just Pitt and Oak, but Miami as well. In the NFC it was Dal, Min, and later in the decade the Rams were good.
In regards to the Pit/Oak matchups... the icy field is there for both teams... so, I don't see how it would favor one over the other... it's an asset or liability for both. As for injuries, yes, Belitnikoff being out was a definite factor. Branch being a non factor relates more to his impact than injury.
@eugenemcgirt "the icy field is there for both teams... so, I don't see how it would favor one over the other... it's an asset or liability for both."
Totally false. It depends on what STYLE of football any particular team plays. Pitt played a much more basic, grind it out, run oriented offense. Oak had a more open offense & famously liked to throw downfield, which required speed on the outside. Branch's famed speed was neutralized by the ice., taking away a major component of Oak's offensse
Yes, I was referring to the '74 AFC title game, thought it was 24-7. The '76 game was 24-7 Oakland, and Pittsburgh being without their two main runners (Harris and Bleier) contributed to scoring only 7. Oakland won and went on to beat Minn... so, they earned the title. The 1976 Pittsburgh team was probably their best defensive team, one of the better defensive teams of all time.
Everybody uses that excuse of Bleier and Harris being out for the Raiders winning the '76 game, but Fred Biletnikoff was out for the '75 AFC Championship and Cliff Branch was a non-factor. I could easily say that the icy field outside of the hashmarks was like a 12th man for Pittsburgh much like the two Steeler RB's being out for the AFCC the year after. I do agree that the Steeler D willed that team as far as they could but simply, the Raiders were just better in '76.
No disrespect meant to you personally, but I just get sick and tired of hearing all these people talk about how the Steelers dominated the Raiders in the 70's which if you look at the games and statistics, it was actually quite even.
It's subjective what you deem "soundly". If I'm not mistaken, Pitt defeated Oakland 24-7 or in that range... the Oakland offense was shut down for the most part and I termed it a "sound" victory for the Steelers because there was never a feeling that the Raiders would score any more points. Unless you belive a team is going to score then, for all intents and purposes, the game is practically decided.
Pittsburgh defeated Oakland 16-10 in that game not 24-7. In fact, the score you mention was the 76 AFC Championship where Oakland won that game. If you are referring to the '74 AFC Championship it was 24-13 Steelers, and in all honesty, the Raiders deserved to lose that game in regards to being over-confident and to their poor fourth quarter performance giving up 21 of those 24 points at that point.
Steelers and Raiders were similar teams... aggressive defenses, potential big play offenses, with strong rushing games.
The 1976 Steelers may have been the best defensive team of all time, and possibly Pittsburgh's best team. They started the season poorly but picked it up and registered 4 or 5 shutouts that year. What hurt them a lot was having both of their starting running backs unavailable for the game versus Oakland.
Raiders won game but Pitt did beat them soundly in prior playoff
Pitt did not beat them soundly in the 75 AFC Championship. It was a very sloppy game by both teams, in fact Pittsburgh had 7 turnovers and Oak had 5. The only reason for Pitt breaking it open was a Marv Hubbard fumble late in the 4th quarter deep in Raider territory enabling Pitt to score an easy TD. All these Steeler fans are such history revisionists.
what i don't understand is why it doesn't say "Raiders sued for playing too DIRTY" Atkinson calls it excellence, when it was luck mixed with total dirty cheap shots
There were several teams capable of beating the Steelers back then, but Oakland was the ONLY team that could intimidate them. If any of you Banaszak-goofy Steeler fans can't handle THAT truth, then keep lying to yourselves. Two GREAT teams and there was no telling who was going to win these games they played....and NO, you Steeler people weren't without doubts - the Raiders were that good.
Real classy, get destroyed on the field then cry about it in court. Steeler fans and their organization is a joke, but then again PA is a no class cesspool.
It was Atkinson who filed the lawsuit, against Noll. Atkinson was hapless thug trash, and Noll correctly called him a criminal. This hurt Atkinson's vagina, and he tried to sue Noll. The suit, of course, was laughed out of court.
@WVDave26 Noll tried to have criminal charges pressed against Atkinson, and called him the "criminal element". He wanted him charged with assault, and THAT was laughed out of court. But his slander landed HIM in court, and it got as far as an actual trial before being turned aside. Several Steelers testified. Bradshaw on the stand complaining how dirty the Raiders were was surreal. He was forced to admit on the stand that, by his own standards, Steelers like Mel Blount were "criminals", lol
@jeffee50 I'm glad you can count, but the last 2 are from this era, not that one. I dont dis the Steelers franchise when they've won more SBs than anybody, though until recently that was just 1 more than the Raiders. But you friggin' Steelers fans give respect to no one. Trust me, your own heros like Bradshaw have great respect for the Raiders of his era. They kicked his ass like no other team in the league could. Don't trash talk my boys. There was never another team like them
@jeffee50 And yet, as was my point, as dominant a team as the Steelers were back then, there was one team in particular that not only could beat them but intimidated them at times. It was the greatest rivalry in team sports in that era, the equivalent of Frazier-Ali. Doesnt seem to me like you have much respect for it at all. And if not, why are you even a fan? That's what its all about when i gets that intense. Without the Raiders the Steelers would have been boring
@jeffee50 And yes, 6 Super Bowls but you compete with the whole league for those. But in DIRECT competition, only twice have the Steelers gone through the Raiders to win a Super Bowl. Exactly the number of times the Raiders have gone through the Steelers to win a Super Bowl. And when the Raiders won, they won going away
@jeffee50 It makes it even worse that a team as successful as the Steelers, who were NOTORIOUS for roughing up the league, to whine that another team was too rough for them when they couldn't beat them. It was NOT a proud moment in Steelers history, no matter how you want to spin it. And that's what this video is about. It was kind of like the school bully who's also the captain of the football team running to the principal to complain someone roughed him up. Totally punk move
@jeffee50 Pittsburgh could have settled it on the field. That's how it was done. It sure as hell was how the Raiders handled things. Never heard Cliff Branch or Stabler complain about their bumps and bruises. Stabler didn't even like the call on the Patriots in 76 for the forearm he took to the face. But Lynn Swan ran his mouth in the press & Noll wanted to involve the police, for crissakes! That was the Steel Curtain? They may have had more rings, but they sure as hell didn't have more pride.
i love the steelers but ca mon we lost that season against them they played great....... and wow i cant believe they sued the raiders........ we were rough as hell to..... thats just stupid.
This series of incidents happened in 1976 after game 1. Atkinson gave Swann a forearm to the head and knocked him out. Swann was running a pattern and the ball was thrown to the other side of the field. Noll described the Raider DB as "a criminal element." Then Atkinson tried to sue him for slander. Reason for the hit? Swann was sometimes mouthy on the field so #43 clocked him.
Aww poor Steelers think the Raiders are playing too rough....GIVE ME A FUCKIN BRAKE, SO YOUR TELLING ME THE STEELERS TEAMS OF THE 70'S DIDNT PLAY AS DIRTY OR ROUGH? ITS FOOTBALL YOU QUEER-BATE SQUEELERS, GET OVER IT
Steelers owned these clowns. 4 super bowls in 6 years, crushing oakland in oakland to get their first, then they crushed oakland again the next year. Add 2 more, 4 super bowls to 1 in the seventies when the rivalry was real! But I respect the raiders for trying LOL.
Yeah you should respect the Raiders...two times they stopped the Raiders from making even better history by stopping the Steelers from winning 3 straight SuperBowls.
@saveusfrom1983 Yeah, I respect the raiders, but the funniest play ever, the immaculate reception would not have happened if tatum played the ball and not tried to hurt the receiver, I guess they paid for it, LOL. Steelers 13-raiders 7. The 76 playoff should have an asterisk, no franco, bleier and fugua, but hey the raiders deserved 1 superbowl. The steelers went back to back twice and are the greatest team in football
An asterisk? The '76 Raiders were one of the great NFL teams of all time. They lost 1 game all year. And the Steelers DID have Frenchy Fuqua. The Raiders also beat them on opening day, when the Steelers were fully healthy and the Raiders had MANY injuries. Whine all you want, but the Steelers barely made the playoffs that year and the Raiders kicked their asses TWICE. There is no doubt the Raiders were the better team in '76,
THANK YOU! FINALLY someone who knows what they are talking about. If I remember correctly to didn't the Raiders allow the Steelers to get into the 76 playoffs? Because had the Raiders lost to the Bengals on MNF the Bengals would be in and the Steelers would be out.
Some people never learn like Pittsburgh fans. They think because they have 6 SB's they are God's gift from above. Well the Packers have 12 NFL Championships and they don't have a stick up there ass!
Exactly. The Raiders had already clinched everything. If they let the Bengals win it would have knocked Pitt out of the playoffs. Instead, the Raiders won 35-20 and said "bring on the Steelers", whom they then crushed 24-7
Eh, thats okay the Raiders crushed your dreams in 76 of a three pear and oh...in 80 again for a three peat and lets not forget how the Raiders picked apart the Steelers in the 83 playoffs or should we just look the other way on that? and if you want to put an asterisk next to the 76 Raiders then put an asterisk next to the 05 Steelers for that wonderful offical calling there in the SuperBowl...Even Steeler nation knew that was a joke.
and as far as not having Franco and Bleier oh well, woulda shoulda coulda, take the guys that you got and you go in. You dance with the girl you brought. Play with the players you have and stop whining.
@saveusfrom1983 bottm line steelers 74=75 champs, kickin raider ass on the way, then 78-79, raiders not even in the playoffs, LOL!!!! If it weren't for the steelers you might have a couple more titles, LOL! Great times in the NFL.
Lol and if it wasen't for the Raiders, YOU might have more titles and you probably wouldn't have whined for 25 years with the title "one for the thumb". Lol I'm not even a Raider fan but I love there tough group mentality.
I dont know what universe you live it, but winning more Super Bowls does not equal "owned". "Owned" implies that one team could not beat the other, no matter how many times they played. That is HARDLY the case with the Raiders, who beat the Steelers asses on MANY occasions. And as this video makes clear, they intimidated even the big bad Steel Curtain. The bullies of the NFL whining that they were bullied. One could say THAT is being "owned", lol. Buncha crybabies
@Rikkangel The steelers crushed the iakland wimps on theri way to the first two super bowls, OWNED! And don't whine about ice in 75, the raiders never had a chance, but four super bowls in the 70s, to going right through oakland, case closed, you lose, just like your group of whiners, oh yeah update, steelers -6 superbowls, LOL!
Whiners? ROTFLMAO! Look at the title of this video & tell me who the "whiners" were.
In case you forgot, the Raiders went right through the Steelers like a hot knife through butter in '76, twice, en route to a Super Bowl, ending their dreams of a 3-peat. And ended that same dream again in 1980, winning another title & crushing the mighty world champion Steel Curtain defense with 45 points on Monday night.
And utterly HUMILIATED Steelers 38-10 in 1983 playoffs on their way to another Super Bowl
And yes, 6 Super Bowl titles now. Which is more than anyone and they deserve props for that. But you think therefore the Steelers "own" the entire rest of the league? LOL. But your last 2 reigning championship teams could not even beat a shitty Raiders team when they played both years
@Rikkangel The 1980 steelers were an injured shell, age caught up with the Champs, but from 72-79, no one was in the steelers league, the two AFC championship games were dominated by the steelers, the scores were not an indication of the dominance-I think the raiders ran for ten or twenty yards combined, OWNED!
@jerrysboys And despite the rings, your boys were still crybabies when they got a little of what they dished out, so shut your own mouth. And if you cant take the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen. Cry baby.
@Rikkangel raider fans still whine over the immaculate reception, but if Tatum plays the ball and not tries to decapitate the receiver, maybe the play does not continue, also look at the fool celebrating and then misses franco by a step, but raider fans still cry it was illegal, LOSERS! By 83 greene, swann, greenwood, and many other steeler legends had retired, that is not in question. The seventies are, 4 super bowls in 6 years, raiders owned-get over it>
The '72 Steelers lost to the Dolphins anyway. But lots of people, not just Raiders fans, think the Immaculate Reception was a bad call. If it wasn't for that little miracle, Raiders lead 4-2 all time head-to-head in playoffs. As it is, Raiders still lead all-time regular season series 10-8. OWNED.
But you dont hear Raiders fans dissing the Steelers. You're a classless fan and a sore winner who probably never even saw this rivalry in realttime. You have no respect so you get none. Grow up
"the 70s" is arbitrary & meaningless.. What did they do in the 80s? Got OWNED. Raiders won 3 Super Bowls in 8 years, regardless of what years they were, surpassed by only 4 NFL franchises. 1980 and 1983 are such a looong time from 1979, hmm?
But why go by decade? Let's break it dont further. The '76 Raiders OWNED the '76 Steelers, & gave them their first AND last loss of the year.
@Rikkangel your perspective is way off, the rivalry was from 72-77, regular season 3-3, post season 3-2, 2 super bowls to 1, destroyed on their home turf, in 74 championship, at home 75 championship, so the steelers won the most crucial games in the playoffs when the rivalry mattered. 72-77. In 83 the steelers were way different and the rivalry was over. Steelers ruled in the rivalry-more super bowls=OWNED!
You're definition of "owned" is solely your own. Any objective fan of the NFL who was around back then would laugh at your notion that the Steelers owned the Raiders. So would the Steelers themselves. You're a universe of 1.
There's a big difference between Raiders FANS whining about a controversial call, and Steelers PLAYERS whining about getting roughed up. This was not a proud moment in Steelers history. Your bully boys were crybabies when they got some of their own treatment. Get over it
the play was illegal but thats not even the most important thing, how about all the players who are dead from the steeleROIDS from taking the juice? Yeah Noll knew about it and promoted it the piece of shit that he was
@hop2171 hey joker, the play was legal, look at the score, LOL!!! As far as steroids, the raiders have had there share, Alzado, matuszak, and they wrote the book on cheating, with fake casts, stickum, face it you could have owned the seventies, but too bad the Steelers did, read em and weep!!!!
well actually the play was NOT legal but that just proves you didnt know the rules and probably still dont of the game. I could have owned the 70's? I didnt play and while i always respected the Raiders i am not a Raiders fan. I have three teams, my team, and whoever is playing the steeleROIDS and the eagles as i hate both of those fan bases. Now go shove that yellow tissue you assclowns waive up your ass
Sorry if you knew the rules back than you would know it was not legal, fuqua "DID" in fact touch it. And the steeleroids were so famous for steriods at this time there are even books written about it so you can put a * next to every title from the 70's. I mean even the QB has admitted. Juice up baby!
@hop2171 The ball never touched fuqua, if the clown who tried to decapitate fuqua would have played the ball-game over, also the joker who started jumping up and down before the play ended didn't catch franco because of his pre mature celebration, LOL! Steroids that bradshaw used were medical, perfectly legal, the steroid users were on the offensive line in the second half of the seventies, just like the rest of the nfl, ask lyle alzado!
ball did touch him and if you can't handle that reality thats not my fault. And the number of players that played for the steeleROIDS from this ERA that are dead is staggering, there has been books writen over this subject and it was a lot more than just the offensive line.
@hop2171 wrongo, look at the replays, touchdown, get over it. Steroids are part of every teams history, reggie white, ernie mills, walter payton, lives cut short, steroids? who knows, but in every locker room some type of cheating went on. The seventies steelers=the greatest football team, get over it!
ive seen the replays and i know what i seen. only steeleROID fans see it differently. all i know is the steeleROIDs from this era have this incredible death rate that no other team from this time period has. You can just put a nice little * next to those wins and deal with reality
As more names are exposed and more books and facts come out it will all come into question, dont you worry about that. And the best part? The current team is clearly on the decline and wont be back anytime soon with cincy and baltimore on the rise. All good stuff
You're pathetic. "Owned" means dominated, and if you u think the Steelers dominated the Raiders, you are truly a moron. Ask the Steelers of that era if they think they "owned" the Raiders, who intimidated even THEM. It was the best rivalry in the NFL. Too bad you have no respect for it. From the childish nature of your posts, I doubt you're old enough to even remember it
Owned them? The Raiders kicked Steelers butt MANY times in that era. Dont parse things to "the 70s". In the ten years from 1974 (when the Steelers won their first title) through 1983, the Raiders won THREE Super Bowls, including some severe ass kickings of the Steelers. Their head-to-head playoff record is 3-3, and would be 4-2 were it not for the Immaculate Reception. To claim they "owned" the Raiders is a joke
@ANDl23W all the cheap shots finally payed off a super bowl to Oakland in '76. pittsburgh proved to be twice as good as any team back then and didn't come close to the number of cheap shots Oakland racked up. Pussies play the game by cheap shotting their opponents. especially when they know they are better than they are. Oakland got away with a lot of b/s back in those days. thank god Pittsburgh was the team of the 70's. Lot more class, much more talent
@LightsOutNukeWinter lol that was in the 70s dont u get it? its not like today with a bunch of shit rules, where it makes the game boring, if u were to hit the qb way after he threw the ball right in front of a ref... and no flag... then wat stops u from doing it again? they took advantage over the refs not calling anything :) that makes them smart not pussies for cheap shotting.. the other team could of done the exact same thing but they werent smart ;p
Another Steeler history revisionist. So Mel Blount's pile driver on Cliff Branch nearly breaking his neck was perfectly OK so Atkinson subsequently in that same game hooks Swann and the Raiders are the evil assholes... Tatum says that Swann wants to be a TV announcer more than a football player because it's true
i am a die hard steelers fan and used to love those steelers/raiders games because they were so physical but i think tatum and atkinson were more like hitmen than football players and that was one of the reasons they only won one title in the madden era....
I am a die hard Raider fan,and I also loved those games. But to say they were more like hitmen is not cool. Its ok for Lambert to rip peoples heads off as well as other DB's. Come on man just because they played harder and Lynn Swan was the biggest cry baby of them all. John Stalworth was the most underated Steeler and the best reciver they had. Chuck Noll was a sissy when it came to the Raiders. I gived them props for 6 rings. NFL hated Al so theres the reason for not winning more.
ok...good point,but then why did atkinson deliberately go after swann,who had nothing to do with the play,the first game of the 76 season,it was a running play to franco,i know the difference between playing hard and just go after somebody
Racer: You're correct. The NFL hates Al Davis because back in 1965 he campaigned for the AFL not to merge with the NFL. He wanted pro football to have two leagues - as (MLB) Baseball does. Al always thought the AFL could have survived without the NFL. I'm a Bills fan from Buffalo. I proudly wear an Oakland Raiders hat in honor of Al Davis. On his 3 Super Bowl rings (all won as an NFL team) is the logo of the old American Football League.
A Steeler fan....still complaining that another team was too rough for the Steel Curtain? LMAO! Tatum was arguably the greatest safety of his era, and undoubtedly the most feared. The Soul Patrol patrol was arguable the most feared secondary ever. As for hitmen, that was Atkisnson's nickname, and he wore it proudly - the Hitman.
1 title under Madden, but a total of 3 Super Bowl titles in an 8 year span. That was more than any team at that time but the Steelers
who's complaining? you obviously misunderstood what i said,,,,i love the way they played back then,,,,i was pointing out the fact that atkinson went after swann in a play that was a running play,maybe if they werent so concerned with taking heads off and playing the game,they might have won more titles ...i;d like to see tatum go against todays players like TO , ocho-stinko,larry fitzgerald,etc...
Then you clearly misjudge the Raiders. That brutal style of play was part of the formula of their success. Receivers tended to be tentative about trying to catch a ball in their vicinity. Intimidation was part of their game
I think that even the most diehard Steeler fan would have to admit that the 1976 Oakland Raiders were awesome! But props still go to the Steelers...4 SB rings in one decade is one HELL of a dynasty!
The impressive thing about the 70s Steelers is the quality of opposition they had to go through to win their 4. The Dolphins were great then. The Raiders were great, and so were the Cowboys and the Vikings, (though they never had the big win so they often get forgotten). And the Steelers had to beat all of them, repeatedly.
76 Raiders were like the 85 Bears. That year, everything fell into place, and they were better than even the team that usually owned the decade.
Hey JohnDoe, good comments. I agree with your assessment of the quality of the Cowboys and Dolphins, but not so much the Vikings. While there were undoubtedly the class of the NFC in the 70s, they were badly overmatched against the premier AFC teams. They are the first to set the standard for Super Bowl futility before Denver redifined it in the 80s and Buffalo perfected it in the early 90s.
I also like your comparing the '76 Raiders to the '85 Bears. Truer words have never been said.
the steeler tried to play like the raiders, they were just weaker! most of the hits the old guys like tatum used to dish out were legal.. minus the swann hit. but he was just a little bitch!!!
the steeler's the steel curtain no 1 defense for a decade the steelers never tried to play like the raider 2 hardcore teams the steelers were just better if not for the steelers the raiders would have won 5 super bowls in 6 years dont hate the raiders made the steelers play harder and win 4 super bowls thanks john
LMFAO the steelers are just a bunch of pussies that were sore losers and lynn swan deserved to get hit by atkinson since what he did a few plays before
i have respct for the steelers but im a die HARD raiders fan and both teams have played the game of footbal the way it was meant to be played, with absolute force, just plain nasty, steelers were just hypocrites they just couldn't handle a taste of their own medicine in DEFEAT.
George Atlkinson leveled Lynn Swann in the first game of the 1976 season with the cheapest of cheap shots. He shouldn't have been allowed to play again that year. That was illegal!!!
No disrespect, Pittsburg Steelers were hypocrites. Blount driving Branch in the ground head first. Joe Greene kicking a man when he down. If any other team did that yall are all over them. Chuck Noll is the Biggest HYPOCRITE EVER!
The big difference between the Steelers and the Raiders back then: The Steelers where the hardest hitters, the Raiders on the other hand, where the dirtiest. Yes, they could also hit ( Tatum ) but they're thing was they where dirty. Big difference.
They did not dominate that year. They got creamed by the Patriots in the regular season and then barely got by in the playoffs against them. ( refs. call not withstanding ).
Also, look at how many close games they had during the regular season.
Never said they were'nt good, but they did not dominate.
I've heard this narrator before; doesn't he care?--unbelievable--no credibility--the first 30 seconds are totally inaccurate. The Steelers were not manhandled in the opener--it was a close comeback, and the lawsuit was a defamation suit against Noll, hence Atkinson v. Noll.
What?!? It was Davis who sued Noll through George Atkinson when Noll challenged his behavior (A forearm to the head when Swann wasn't looking, away from the play)
The Raiders would have been in 10 different super bowls, but sadly..bogus games/calls kept them from going to many (immacculate reception, frozen field in pittsburgh, tuck rule with tom brady *who later admitted it was actually a fumble*, ETC..... the Raiders are overall the best team in the NFL if you look back at history
Damn right. When you look at the success they have had at all positions, all levels, I don't think there is a team that can combat them. Maybe the Cowboys and Packers in a sense but they still don't top the Raiders.
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That frozen field is the only reason the inferior team, the Raiders, made the game close. The steelers would have blown them out completely in normal weather conditions
@jeffee50 HAH! The Steelers never blew out the Raiders a SINGLE TIME in that era. The Raiders had the better head-to-head record vs the Steelers in that era, and still do all-time. In the playoffs, its 3-3. Its 3-2 in favor of the Steelers for the 70s, with the difference being the Immaculate Reception. But the Raiders CRUSHED the Steelers in the '73, '76, and '83 playoffs. The CLOSEST game was 24-7 in '76
The Raiders were an excellent team and were due for a Super Bowl in 1976, but for the narrator to say the Raiders manhandled the Steelers in Week 1 is absurd. The Steelers were up 28-14 with under five minutes and gave it away with three turnovers. Oakland should have repeated in 1977, but were screwed big time in the AFC title game to Denver that season. Football fans were robbed of a Raiders-Cowboys Super Bowl, which would have been much more competitive.
The 76' Raiders where a good ball club and they did a number on the Vikings, but they were'nt the best team in the AFC.They lost 48 to 16 or something the like to the Patriots earlier that year. Later, in the playoffs the refs gave them the ball inside the 5 against the same Patriots ( the bogus roughing the passer call on 4th down ).
Beating the Steelers??say what you want, but when you lose TWO 1000 yrd backs, it's going to affect you!!
I don't think the 76' Raiders where the real deal.
Wrong. It was 3rd down when the foul happened. And also, the Steelers were only in the playoffs cause of the Raiders. Not too mention they beat them in the season opener with both backs.
Fair eneugh, let's call it 3rd down. But still, it WAS a bogus call. I know what you mean about the Steelers getting in because of the Raiders. They beat the Bengals and allowed for the Steelers to qualify.That's the game where Lambert said he would'nt be surprised if the Raiders layed down just so they don't have to play each other.
The Raiders DID beat the Steelers in the opener, but let's also remeber they started the season 0-4, and then won 11 in a row.
WTF are you talking about? The Raiders lost one game that year to the Pats and then avenged that loss in the playoffs. To say that one bad loss makes them the worse that year is just stupid. The 85 Bears lost to the Dolphins and had that defense disected by Dan Marinio and never even avenged that loss. Were the Dolphins a better team? HELL NO! Every NFL team in history other than 1 has lost a game, but the team that wins the championship IS the best.
real men don't whine "mom, he's playing too rough" real men just fight back.
slydawg221 3 months ago
Other way around--Raiders (Atkinson) sued the Steelers (Noll) because Noll said there was a criminal element in the NFL and Atkinson was very sensitive.
bobbyp27 3 months ago in playlist Oakland Raiders
pussies!!!
ToxiicKoolAid69 4 months ago
Ah, the John Madden-coached Raiders. The 90's Atlanta Braves of the NFL. Nine championship games (dating back to '67 w/his predecessor), 1 SB title. The epitome of being very good and blowing it (except once with a heck of a '76 team). At least the Flores teams won it all more.
marquettefootball 7 months ago
PLAYING "TOO HARD"? FUCK THE SHITBURGH STEELERSKILLA
VIVAN LOS OAKLAND RAIDERS THERE ONLY WON NATION AND THAT'S THE RAIDERS NATION!!!
AL1STER86 9 months ago
funny how stupid fucking steeler fans still try to defend their PUSSY team! flat pussy team win 3989384757 superbowls you will always be PUSSY FAGGOTS!
unlimitedsupra 1 year ago
Hey Phil 1:13 - I dont blame you for hating the Steelers - they kicked the shit out of everybody - including you.
TommyC503 1 year ago
@GrizzlyMonkey15
Pittsburgh did not win the title the year of the 'Immaculate Reception'. The play you're referencing occurred in 1972, and Miami went undefeated and won the SB that year. In regards to the icy field, it would be more credible if Pittsburgh needed to play on a field of that nature to be victorious. But, they defeated the Raiders IN Oakland during their first SB run in 1974. They went on to win 3 more titles on various fields and locales. So, they proved themselves.
eugenemcgirt 1 year ago
The ice field was a major advantage for Pittsburgh. Everyone knew that Oakland had a deep vertical passing game while Pittsburgh was just a running team. I love how it was really close when they played in Pittsburgh, but in Oakland in the AFC championship a year or two later, the Raiders completely blew out the Steelers.
GrizzlyMonkey15 1 year ago
Well the Raiders are always considered the bad guys, and I love them for it. They aren't bad guys, but hey will stick with it and be intimating.
xXFaTaLizExX 1 year ago
Tatum rocked that dude.
NiniTheGangsta 1 year ago
That final score post was wrong, It was not 24-7 but rather 32-14.
jimjamsdc 1 year ago
The one game I always wanted to see in the 70's was a Dallas Oakland Super Bowl. But Denver had to ruin that for me.
WillHear432 1 year ago
@Rikkangel
Pittsburgh and Oakland had similar approaches. Madden was a conservative type of coach who liked to run the fullback (Van Eeghen) to set up the deep ball. Pittsburgh was similar... using the run to set up deep passes to Swann, Lewis, Stallworth, etc. YOu don't think PItt wanted to throw deep as well? ARe you forgetting what Swann did during the playoffs throughout his career? All the deep balls he caught.
eugenemcgirt 1 year ago
@Metaliconian...
I liked football during the 70's. Oak and Pit were very similar teams... tough, physical, intimidating, etc. You could flip a coin as to who would win if they played 10 times.
In the end, Pit won more titles... 4 in 6 years being more than any team has won during a span of 6 years. It doesn't mean there weren't other great teams.. but, Pit can't be shortchanged either. I loved the competition.
eugenemcgirt 1 year ago
@eugenemcgirt Don't forget that 2 of their titles were the result of the immaculate reception and the ice field. A ridiculously lucky play that wouldn't even be called a catch today and a ridiculous terrain advantage for Pittsburgh that would be postponed today.
GrizzlyMonkey15 1 year ago
@GrizzlyMonkey15 Please explain how it wouldnt be called a catch today?
TommyC503 1 year ago
@GrizzlyMonkey15 and dont forget jackie smiths drop
brucedavis76 1 year ago
@Metaliconian...
The matchups during 70's NFL were classic... not just Pitt and Oak, but Miami as well. In the NFC it was Dal, Min, and later in the decade the Rams were good.
In regards to the Pit/Oak matchups... the icy field is there for both teams... so, I don't see how it would favor one over the other... it's an asset or liability for both. As for injuries, yes, Belitnikoff being out was a definite factor. Branch being a non factor relates more to his impact than injury.
eugenemcgirt 1 year ago
@eugenemcgirt "the icy field is there for both teams... so, I don't see how it would favor one over the other... it's an asset or liability for both."
Totally false. It depends on what STYLE of football any particular team plays. Pitt played a much more basic, grind it out, run oriented offense. Oak had a more open offense & famously liked to throw downfield, which required speed on the outside. Branch's famed speed was neutralized by the ice., taking away a major component of Oak's offensse
Rikkangel 1 year ago
@Rikkangel cause one team is more used to it then another
kushbluntsandrozay 1 year ago
@Metaliconian...
Yes, I was referring to the '74 AFC title game, thought it was 24-7. The '76 game was 24-7 Oakland, and Pittsburgh being without their two main runners (Harris and Bleier) contributed to scoring only 7. Oakland won and went on to beat Minn... so, they earned the title. The 1976 Pittsburgh team was probably their best defensive team, one of the better defensive teams of all time.
eugenemcgirt 1 year ago
@eugenemcgirt
Everybody uses that excuse of Bleier and Harris being out for the Raiders winning the '76 game, but Fred Biletnikoff was out for the '75 AFC Championship and Cliff Branch was a non-factor. I could easily say that the icy field outside of the hashmarks was like a 12th man for Pittsburgh much like the two Steeler RB's being out for the AFCC the year after. I do agree that the Steeler D willed that team as far as they could but simply, the Raiders were just better in '76.
Metaliconian 1 year ago
@eugenemcgirt
No disrespect meant to you personally, but I just get sick and tired of hearing all these people talk about how the Steelers dominated the Raiders in the 70's which if you look at the games and statistics, it was actually quite even.
Metaliconian 1 year ago
@Metaliconiian...
It's subjective what you deem "soundly". If I'm not mistaken, Pitt defeated Oakland 24-7 or in that range... the Oakland offense was shut down for the most part and I termed it a "sound" victory for the Steelers because there was never a feeling that the Raiders would score any more points. Unless you belive a team is going to score then, for all intents and purposes, the game is practically decided.
eugenemcgirt 1 year ago
@eugenemcgirt
Pittsburgh defeated Oakland 16-10 in that game not 24-7. In fact, the score you mention was the 76 AFC Championship where Oakland won that game. If you are referring to the '74 AFC Championship it was 24-13 Steelers, and in all honesty, the Raiders deserved to lose that game in regards to being over-confident and to their poor fourth quarter performance giving up 21 of those 24 points at that point.
Metaliconian 1 year ago
@eugenemcgirt
76 AFC Championship
24-7 Oakland. That was an ass kicking.
1973 Divisional playoffs. 34-13. Even bigger ass kicking
1983 Divisional playoffs. 38-10. Monumental ass kicking
Rikkangel 1 year ago
jack tatum keeping the heads ringing, no tougher safety then the assassin
ElSatansucks 1 year ago
Steelers and Raiders were similar teams... aggressive defenses, potential big play offenses, with strong rushing games.
The 1976 Steelers may have been the best defensive team of all time, and possibly Pittsburgh's best team. They started the season poorly but picked it up and registered 4 or 5 shutouts that year. What hurt them a lot was having both of their starting running backs unavailable for the game versus Oakland.
Raiders won game but Pitt did beat them soundly in prior playoff
eugenemcgirt 1 year ago
@eugenemcgirt
Pitt did not beat them soundly in the 75 AFC Championship. It was a very sloppy game by both teams, in fact Pittsburgh had 7 turnovers and Oak had 5. The only reason for Pitt breaking it open was a Marv Hubbard fumble late in the 4th quarter deep in Raider territory enabling Pitt to score an easy TD. All these Steeler fans are such history revisionists.
Metaliconian 1 year ago
what i don't understand is why it doesn't say "Raiders sued for playing too DIRTY" Atkinson calls it excellence, when it was luck mixed with total dirty cheap shots
LightsOutNukeWinter 1 year ago
There were several teams capable of beating the Steelers back then, but Oakland was the ONLY team that could intimidate them. If any of you Banaszak-goofy Steeler fans can't handle THAT truth, then keep lying to yourselves. Two GREAT teams and there was no telling who was going to win these games they played....and NO, you Steeler people weren't without doubts - the Raiders were that good.
possumtail 1 year ago
Real classy, get destroyed on the field then cry about it in court. Steeler fans and their organization is a joke, but then again PA is a no class cesspool.
idIethreat 2 years ago
Pittsburgh Steroids
gfscarface13 2 years ago 9
@gfscarface13 hate to tell you but every team in that era took steriods yes even the raiders did
PENS68 1 year ago
lol
It was Atkinson who filed the lawsuit, against Noll. Atkinson was hapless thug trash, and Noll correctly called him a criminal. This hurt Atkinson's vagina, and he tried to sue Noll. The suit, of course, was laughed out of court.
WVDave26 2 years ago
@WVDave26 Noll tried to have criminal charges pressed against Atkinson, and called him the "criminal element". He wanted him charged with assault, and THAT was laughed out of court. But his slander landed HIM in court, and it got as far as an actual trial before being turned aside. Several Steelers testified. Bradshaw on the stand complaining how dirty the Raiders were was surreal. He was forced to admit on the stand that, by his own standards, Steelers like Mel Blount were "criminals", lol
Rikkangel 1 year ago
@Rikkangel Bottom line Steelers 6 Super Bowls to Oakland's 3.
jeffee50 1 year ago
@jeffee50 I'm glad you can count, but the last 2 are from this era, not that one. I dont dis the Steelers franchise when they've won more SBs than anybody, though until recently that was just 1 more than the Raiders. But you friggin' Steelers fans give respect to no one. Trust me, your own heros like Bradshaw have great respect for the Raiders of his era. They kicked his ass like no other team in the league could. Don't trash talk my boys. There was never another team like them
Rikkangel 1 year ago
@jeffee50 And yet, as was my point, as dominant a team as the Steelers were back then, there was one team in particular that not only could beat them but intimidated them at times. It was the greatest rivalry in team sports in that era, the equivalent of Frazier-Ali. Doesnt seem to me like you have much respect for it at all. And if not, why are you even a fan? That's what its all about when i gets that intense. Without the Raiders the Steelers would have been boring
Rikkangel 1 year ago
@jeffee50 And yes, 6 Super Bowls but you compete with the whole league for those. But in DIRECT competition, only twice have the Steelers gone through the Raiders to win a Super Bowl. Exactly the number of times the Raiders have gone through the Steelers to win a Super Bowl. And when the Raiders won, they won going away
Rikkangel 1 year ago
@jeffee50 It makes it even worse that a team as successful as the Steelers, who were NOTORIOUS for roughing up the league, to whine that another team was too rough for them when they couldn't beat them. It was NOT a proud moment in Steelers history, no matter how you want to spin it. And that's what this video is about. It was kind of like the school bully who's also the captain of the football team running to the principal to complain someone roughed him up. Totally punk move
Rikkangel 1 year ago
@jeffee50 Pittsburgh could have settled it on the field. That's how it was done. It sure as hell was how the Raiders handled things. Never heard Cliff Branch or Stabler complain about their bumps and bruises. Stabler didn't even like the call on the Patriots in 76 for the forearm he took to the face. But Lynn Swan ran his mouth in the press & Noll wanted to involve the police, for crissakes! That was the Steel Curtain? They may have had more rings, but they sure as hell didn't have more pride.
Rikkangel 1 year ago
Noll was a c_nt and made sure all his players were on the juice, thats why assclowns like webster are dead in the grave
hop2171 2 years ago
WILL WE COME BACK WE WILL CONQUER
oregonborn04 2 years ago
PUSSYS DO
raiderflea 2 years ago
it dosent matter how good the stellers are. Who in the hell sues someone for playing to rough
aceking707 2 years ago
i love the steelers but ca mon we lost that season against them they played great....... and wow i cant believe they sued the raiders........ we were rough as hell to..... thats just stupid.
glealblood 2 years ago
Wow, I never knew he did that.
What a pussy.
Pittsburgh are pussies, they wear yellow.
mrceebees14 2 years ago
This series of incidents happened in 1976 after game 1. Atkinson gave Swann a forearm to the head and knocked him out. Swann was running a pattern and the ball was thrown to the other side of the field. Noll described the Raider DB as "a criminal element." Then Atkinson tried to sue him for slander. Reason for the hit? Swann was sometimes mouthy on the field so #43 clocked him.
mikeycereal 2 years ago
Aww poor Steelers think the Raiders are playing too rough....GIVE ME A FUCKIN BRAKE, SO YOUR TELLING ME THE STEELERS TEAMS OF THE 70'S DIDNT PLAY AS DIRTY OR ROUGH? ITS FOOTBALL YOU QUEER-BATE SQUEELERS, GET OVER IT
saveusfrom1983 2 years ago
Steelers owned these clowns. 4 super bowls in 6 years, crushing oakland in oakland to get their first, then they crushed oakland again the next year. Add 2 more, 4 super bowls to 1 in the seventies when the rivalry was real! But I respect the raiders for trying LOL.
harp1925 2 years ago
Yeah you should respect the Raiders...two times they stopped the Raiders from making even better history by stopping the Steelers from winning 3 straight SuperBowls.
saveusfrom1983 2 years ago
@saveusfrom1983 Yeah, I respect the raiders, but the funniest play ever, the immaculate reception would not have happened if tatum played the ball and not tried to hurt the receiver, I guess they paid for it, LOL. Steelers 13-raiders 7. The 76 playoff should have an asterisk, no franco, bleier and fugua, but hey the raiders deserved 1 superbowl. The steelers went back to back twice and are the greatest team in football
harp1925 2 years ago
An asterisk? The '76 Raiders were one of the great NFL teams of all time. They lost 1 game all year. And the Steelers DID have Frenchy Fuqua. The Raiders also beat them on opening day, when the Steelers were fully healthy and the Raiders had MANY injuries. Whine all you want, but the Steelers barely made the playoffs that year and the Raiders kicked their asses TWICE. There is no doubt the Raiders were the better team in '76,
1 Super Bowl? Try 3
Rikkangel 2 years ago
THANK YOU! FINALLY someone who knows what they are talking about. If I remember correctly to didn't the Raiders allow the Steelers to get into the 76 playoffs? Because had the Raiders lost to the Bengals on MNF the Bengals would be in and the Steelers would be out.
Some people never learn like Pittsburgh fans. They think because they have 6 SB's they are God's gift from above. Well the Packers have 12 NFL Championships and they don't have a stick up there ass!
saveusfrom1983 2 years ago
Exactly. The Raiders had already clinched everything. If they let the Bengals win it would have knocked Pitt out of the playoffs. Instead, the Raiders won 35-20 and said "bring on the Steelers", whom they then crushed 24-7
Rikkangel 2 years ago
Eh, thats okay the Raiders crushed your dreams in 76 of a three pear and oh...in 80 again for a three peat and lets not forget how the Raiders picked apart the Steelers in the 83 playoffs or should we just look the other way on that? and if you want to put an asterisk next to the 76 Raiders then put an asterisk next to the 05 Steelers for that wonderful offical calling there in the SuperBowl...Even Steeler nation knew that was a joke.
saveusfrom1983 2 years ago
and as far as not having Franco and Bleier oh well, woulda shoulda coulda, take the guys that you got and you go in. You dance with the girl you brought. Play with the players you have and stop whining.
saveusfrom1983 2 years ago
@saveusfrom1983 bottm line steelers 74=75 champs, kickin raider ass on the way, then 78-79, raiders not even in the playoffs, LOL!!!! If it weren't for the steelers you might have a couple more titles, LOL! Great times in the NFL.
harp1925 2 years ago
Lol and if it wasen't for the Raiders, YOU might have more titles and you probably wouldn't have whined for 25 years with the title "one for the thumb". Lol I'm not even a Raider fan but I love there tough group mentality.
saveusfrom1983 2 years ago
1983 Raiders vs Steelers
Raiders 38-10
1973 Divisional playoffs
Raiders 34-14
1976 AFC Championship
Raiders 24-7
THAT is kicking ass.
Rikkangel 2 years ago
@Rikkangel 4 superbowls in 6 years vs. 3 in 8 years, OWNED!
harp1925 2 years ago
I dont know what universe you live it, but winning more Super Bowls does not equal "owned". "Owned" implies that one team could not beat the other, no matter how many times they played. That is HARDLY the case with the Raiders, who beat the Steelers asses on MANY occasions. And as this video makes clear, they intimidated even the big bad Steel Curtain. The bullies of the NFL whining that they were bullied. One could say THAT is being "owned", lol. Buncha crybabies
Rikkangel 2 years ago
@Rikkangel The steelers crushed the iakland wimps on theri way to the first two super bowls, OWNED! And don't whine about ice in 75, the raiders never had a chance, but four super bowls in the 70s, to going right through oakland, case closed, you lose, just like your group of whiners, oh yeah update, steelers -6 superbowls, LOL!
harp1925 2 years ago
Crushed? Your definition of "crushed" is as asinine as your definition of "owned".
16-10 is getting crushed" LOL/
24-13 is the biggest margin of victory the Steelers ever had over the Raiders in the playoffs.
You want crushed?
1973 playoffs - 34-14
1976 playoffs - 24 -7
1983 playoffs - 38-10
Now THOSE are ASS KICKINGS, games where the Steelers were flat out embarrassed
Rikkangel 2 years ago
Whiners? ROTFLMAO! Look at the title of this video & tell me who the "whiners" were.
In case you forgot, the Raiders went right through the Steelers like a hot knife through butter in '76, twice, en route to a Super Bowl, ending their dreams of a 3-peat. And ended that same dream again in 1980, winning another title & crushing the mighty world champion Steel Curtain defense with 45 points on Monday night.
And utterly HUMILIATED Steelers 38-10 in 1983 playoffs on their way to another Super Bowl
Rikkangel 2 years ago
And yes, 6 Super Bowl titles now. Which is more than anyone and they deserve props for that. But you think therefore the Steelers "own" the entire rest of the league? LOL. But your last 2 reigning championship teams could not even beat a shitty Raiders team when they played both years
Rikkangel 2 years ago
@Rikkangel The 1980 steelers were an injured shell, age caught up with the Champs, but from 72-79, no one was in the steelers league, the two AFC championship games were dominated by the steelers, the scores were not an indication of the dominance-I think the raiders ran for ten or twenty yards combined, OWNED!
harp1925 2 years ago
1980 Steelers were back to back champs. 1980 Raiders were an aging team out of nowhere with a broken down castaway qb.
1973 Divisional playoff -34-14....OWNED
1976 AFC Championship 24-7 ...OWNED!
1983 Divisional playoff 38-10....OWNED!
Rikkangel 2 years ago
@Rikkangel line up the rings asshole and shut your mouth
jerrysboys 1 year ago
@jerrysboys And despite the rings, your boys were still crybabies when they got a little of what they dished out, so shut your own mouth. And if you cant take the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen. Cry baby.
Rikkangel 1 year ago
@Rikkangel like I said when I see an equal amount of rings we'll talk
jerrysboys 1 year ago
@jerrysboys Whatever
Rikkangel 1 year ago
And by the way, what's the lifetime head to head record between the Raiders and Steelers?
I'll let you answer that one. Then you can tell me who owns anyone
Rikkangel 2 years ago
@Rikkangel raider fans still whine over the immaculate reception, but if Tatum plays the ball and not tries to decapitate the receiver, maybe the play does not continue, also look at the fool celebrating and then misses franco by a step, but raider fans still cry it was illegal, LOSERS! By 83 greene, swann, greenwood, and many other steeler legends had retired, that is not in question. The seventies are, 4 super bowls in 6 years, raiders owned-get over it>
harp1925 2 years ago
The '72 Steelers lost to the Dolphins anyway. But lots of people, not just Raiders fans, think the Immaculate Reception was a bad call. If it wasn't for that little miracle, Raiders lead 4-2 all time head-to-head in playoffs. As it is, Raiders still lead all-time regular season series 10-8. OWNED.
But you dont hear Raiders fans dissing the Steelers. You're a classless fan and a sore winner who probably never even saw this rivalry in realttime. You have no respect so you get none. Grow up
Rikkangel 2 years ago
"the 70s" is arbitrary & meaningless.. What did they do in the 80s? Got OWNED. Raiders won 3 Super Bowls in 8 years, regardless of what years they were, surpassed by only 4 NFL franchises. 1980 and 1983 are such a looong time from 1979, hmm?
But why go by decade? Let's break it dont further. The '76 Raiders OWNED the '76 Steelers, & gave them their first AND last loss of the year.
1967-1971
Raiders -4 championship games. 1 SuperBowl appearance
Steelers - 0 playoff appearance
OWNED
Rikkangel 2 years ago
@Rikkangel your perspective is way off, the rivalry was from 72-77, regular season 3-3, post season 3-2, 2 super bowls to 1, destroyed on their home turf, in 74 championship, at home 75 championship, so the steelers won the most crucial games in the playoffs when the rivalry mattered. 72-77. In 83 the steelers were way different and the rivalry was over. Steelers ruled in the rivalry-more super bowls=OWNED!
harp1925 2 years ago
You're definition of "owned" is solely your own. Any objective fan of the NFL who was around back then would laugh at your notion that the Steelers owned the Raiders. So would the Steelers themselves. You're a universe of 1.
Rikkangel 2 years ago
There's a big difference between Raiders FANS whining about a controversial call, and Steelers PLAYERS whining about getting roughed up. This was not a proud moment in Steelers history. Your bully boys were crybabies when they got some of their own treatment. Get over it
Rikkangel 2 years ago
the play was illegal but thats not even the most important thing, how about all the players who are dead from the steeleROIDS from taking the juice? Yeah Noll knew about it and promoted it the piece of shit that he was
hop2171 2 years ago
@hop2171 hey joker, the play was legal, look at the score, LOL!!! As far as steroids, the raiders have had there share, Alzado, matuszak, and they wrote the book on cheating, with fake casts, stickum, face it you could have owned the seventies, but too bad the Steelers did, read em and weep!!!!
harp1925 2 years ago
well actually the play was NOT legal but that just proves you didnt know the rules and probably still dont of the game. I could have owned the 70's? I didnt play and while i always respected the Raiders i am not a Raiders fan. I have three teams, my team, and whoever is playing the steeleROIDS and the eagles as i hate both of those fan bases. Now go shove that yellow tissue you assclowns waive up your ass
hop2171 2 years ago
@hop2171 Sorry, the play was legal, fuqua did not touch the ball, but everyone has a right to their opinion. Steelers owned the seventies!
harp1925 2 years ago
Sorry if you knew the rules back than you would know it was not legal, fuqua "DID" in fact touch it. And the steeleroids were so famous for steriods at this time there are even books written about it so you can put a * next to every title from the 70's. I mean even the QB has admitted. Juice up baby!
hop2171 2 years ago
@hop2171 The ball never touched fuqua, if the clown who tried to decapitate fuqua would have played the ball-game over, also the joker who started jumping up and down before the play ended didn't catch franco because of his pre mature celebration, LOL! Steroids that bradshaw used were medical, perfectly legal, the steroid users were on the offensive line in the second half of the seventies, just like the rest of the nfl, ask lyle alzado!
harp1925 2 years ago
ball did touch him and if you can't handle that reality thats not my fault. And the number of players that played for the steeleROIDS from this ERA that are dead is staggering, there has been books writen over this subject and it was a lot more than just the offensive line.
hop2171 2 years ago
@hop2171 wrongo, look at the replays, touchdown, get over it. Steroids are part of every teams history, reggie white, ernie mills, walter payton, lives cut short, steroids? who knows, but in every locker room some type of cheating went on. The seventies steelers=the greatest football team, get over it!
harp1925 2 years ago
ive seen the replays and i know what i seen. only steeleROID fans see it differently. all i know is the steeleROIDs from this era have this incredible death rate that no other team from this time period has. You can just put a nice little * next to those wins and deal with reality
hop2171 2 years ago
@hop2171 Too bad that will never happen, so quit your whinin and get over it, steelers are the greatest super bowl dynasty!
harp1925 2 years ago
As more names are exposed and more books and facts come out it will all come into question, dont you worry about that. And the best part? The current team is clearly on the decline and wont be back anytime soon with cincy and baltimore on the rise. All good stuff
hop2171 2 years ago
who owns the record for the most players on steroids? that would be the steeleROIDS!
hop2171 2 years ago
You're pathetic. "Owned" means dominated, and if you u think the Steelers dominated the Raiders, you are truly a moron. Ask the Steelers of that era if they think they "owned" the Raiders, who intimidated even THEM. It was the best rivalry in the NFL. Too bad you have no respect for it. From the childish nature of your posts, I doubt you're old enough to even remember it
Rikkangel 2 years ago
Owned them? The Raiders kicked Steelers butt MANY times in that era. Dont parse things to "the 70s". In the ten years from 1974 (when the Steelers won their first title) through 1983, the Raiders won THREE Super Bowls, including some severe ass kickings of the Steelers. Their head-to-head playoff record is 3-3, and would be 4-2 were it not for the Immaculate Reception. To claim they "owned" the Raiders is a joke
Rikkangel 2 years ago
The Raiders are one of the most hated teams in the NFL...
But I'm DAMN proud of that!
No if only they can play NOW like they did back then...
ANDl23W 2 years ago 11
The cowboys are the most hated team in the NFL haha. But the raiders are hated to but have the most fans
zazakazam 2 years ago
lol harris and blier didn't even play in this game.Not very impressive oakland scumbags
TheGatorfan93 2 years ago
@ANDl23W all the cheap shots finally payed off a super bowl to Oakland in '76. pittsburgh proved to be twice as good as any team back then and didn't come close to the number of cheap shots Oakland racked up. Pussies play the game by cheap shotting their opponents. especially when they know they are better than they are. Oakland got away with a lot of b/s back in those days. thank god Pittsburgh was the team of the 70's. Lot more class, much more talent
LightsOutNukeWinter 1 year ago
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@LightsOutNukeWinter Blah blah blah... pussy
pantro80 1 year ago
@LightsOutNukeWinter lol that was in the 70s dont u get it? its not like today with a bunch of shit rules, where it makes the game boring, if u were to hit the qb way after he threw the ball right in front of a ref... and no flag... then wat stops u from doing it again? they took advantage over the refs not calling anything :) that makes them smart not pussies for cheap shotting.. the other team could of done the exact same thing but they werent smart ;p
nomnomieatu 1 year ago
@LightsOutNukeWinter
Another Steeler history revisionist. So Mel Blount's pile driver on Cliff Branch nearly breaking his neck was perfectly OK so Atkinson subsequently in that same game hooks Swann and the Raiders are the evil assholes... Tatum says that Swann wants to be a TV announcer more than a football player because it's true
Metaliconian 1 year ago 4
@Metaliconian I agree they were dirty as hell in superbowl x but no that was just hard hitting tough steelers
beating up the flashy cowboys so when oakland hit back and hit back hard just like the typicall bully they started crying way to go silver and black
brucedavis76 1 year ago
i am a die hard steelers fan and used to love those steelers/raiders games because they were so physical but i think tatum and atkinson were more like hitmen than football players and that was one of the reasons they only won one title in the madden era....
steelertim69 2 years ago
I am a die hard Raider fan,and I also loved those games. But to say they were more like hitmen is not cool. Its ok for Lambert to rip peoples heads off as well as other DB's. Come on man just because they played harder and Lynn Swan was the biggest cry baby of them all. John Stalworth was the most underated Steeler and the best reciver they had. Chuck Noll was a sissy when it came to the Raiders. I gived them props for 6 rings. NFL hated Al so theres the reason for not winning more.
Racer704 2 years ago
ok...good point,but then why did atkinson deliberately go after swann,who had nothing to do with the play,the first game of the 76 season,it was a running play to franco,i know the difference between playing hard and just go after somebody
steelertim69 2 years ago
Racer: You're correct. The NFL hates Al Davis because back in 1965 he campaigned for the AFL not to merge with the NFL. He wanted pro football to have two leagues - as (MLB) Baseball does. Al always thought the AFL could have survived without the NFL. I'm a Bills fan from Buffalo. I proudly wear an Oakland Raiders hat in honor of Al Davis. On his 3 Super Bowl rings (all won as an NFL team) is the logo of the old American Football League.
mikebordon 2 years ago
A Steeler fan....still complaining that another team was too rough for the Steel Curtain? LMAO! Tatum was arguably the greatest safety of his era, and undoubtedly the most feared. The Soul Patrol patrol was arguable the most feared secondary ever. As for hitmen, that was Atkisnson's nickname, and he wore it proudly - the Hitman.
1 title under Madden, but a total of 3 Super Bowl titles in an 8 year span. That was more than any team at that time but the Steelers
Rikkangel 2 years ago
who's complaining? you obviously misunderstood what i said,,,,i love the way they played back then,,,,i was pointing out the fact that atkinson went after swann in a play that was a running play,maybe if they werent so concerned with taking heads off and playing the game,they might have won more titles ...i;d like to see tatum go against todays players like TO , ocho-stinko,larry fitzgerald,etc...
steelertim69 2 years ago
Then you clearly misjudge the Raiders. That brutal style of play was part of the formula of their success. Receivers tended to be tentative about trying to catch a ball in their vicinity. Intimidation was part of their game
Rikkangel 2 years ago
I think that even the most diehard Steeler fan would have to admit that the 1976 Oakland Raiders were awesome! But props still go to the Steelers...4 SB rings in one decade is one HELL of a dynasty!
monstertruck1520 2 years ago
The impressive thing about the 70s Steelers is the quality of opposition they had to go through to win their 4. The Dolphins were great then. The Raiders were great, and so were the Cowboys and the Vikings, (though they never had the big win so they often get forgotten). And the Steelers had to beat all of them, repeatedly.
76 Raiders were like the 85 Bears. That year, everything fell into place, and they were better than even the team that usually owned the decade.
JohnDoe8842 2 years ago
Hey JohnDoe, good comments. I agree with your assessment of the quality of the Cowboys and Dolphins, but not so much the Vikings. While there were undoubtedly the class of the NFC in the 70s, they were badly overmatched against the premier AFC teams. They are the first to set the standard for Super Bowl futility before Denver redifined it in the 80s and Buffalo perfected it in the early 90s.
I also like your comparing the '76 Raiders to the '85 Bears. Truer words have never been said.
monstertruck1520 2 years ago
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monstertruck1520 2 years ago
yes you are correct, the score on this video is incorrect,i dont know why they displayed it as such.
slicccccric 2 years ago
the steeler tried to play like the raiders, they were just weaker! most of the hits the old guys like tatum used to dish out were legal.. minus the swann hit. but he was just a little bitch!!!
GO RAIDERS!
KILLemALL399 2 years ago
the steeler's the steel curtain no 1 defense for a decade the steelers never tried to play like the raider 2 hardcore teams the steelers were just better if not for the steelers the raiders would have won 5 super bowls in 6 years dont hate the raiders made the steelers play harder and win 4 super bowls thanks john
miguelbovine10 2 years ago
The Raiders not only beat but crushed the Steelers in the playoffs more than once back then.
34-13 in in 1973
24-7 in 1976
38-10 in 1983
And the Steelers never had a near-perfect one-loss championship season like the Raiders did in '76, going 16-1, second only to the '72 Dolphins
Rikkangel 2 years ago
LIKE VILAPIANO SAID "what a Joke"
usnvet72 2 years ago
laughable...now I know how the Pittsburgh Squealers got their name
CSFLChampion 2 years ago 2
why do sports fade? back then all sports where rough and hard now the level seemed to go down in this era
AnimeandVideogames 2 years ago
LMFAO the steelers are just a bunch of pussies that were sore losers and lynn swan deserved to get hit by atkinson since what he did a few plays before
silverandblackfan 2 years ago 2
What did he do?
grandmasterkrush 2 years ago
HAHAHAHA Whaaaaaaaat!? I had never heard about this. Good Joke by the Steelers.... LoL
lastdon6585 2 years ago
i have respct for the steelers but im a die HARD raiders fan and both teams have played the game of footbal the way it was meant to be played, with absolute force, just plain nasty, steelers were just hypocrites they just couldn't handle a taste of their own medicine in DEFEAT.
raiderfan89ify 2 years ago
Steelers are pussies! Go Raiders!
RaideRaul 2 years ago
and not to mention the fact that the steelers had the exact same style of playing the game as the oakland raiders back in the 70s.
xtremejt86 2 years ago 2
George Atlkinson leveled Lynn Swann in the first game of the 1976 season with the cheapest of cheap shots. He shouldn't have been allowed to play again that year. That was illegal!!!
thelanceman 2 years ago
Raiders #1
BrownMan510 2 years ago 2
Cry me a river!
largemonkey6 2 years ago 3
No disrespect, Pittsburg Steelers were hypocrites. Blount driving Branch in the ground head first. Joe Greene kicking a man when he down. If any other team did that yall are all over them. Chuck Noll is the Biggest HYPOCRITE EVER!
Realdeal232005 2 years ago
the 70's had barly any rules. Compared to today, 70s was almost like street football.
WissMongler 2 years ago
ok if u are complaining about getting hit and having your ass handed to you then that mean u and ur team HAVE NO BALLS!!!!!!!!!
rylaione 2 years ago
Raiders beat my Steelers in 1976-1977 season, its all good, Steelers wound up winning 4 more Super Bowls after that 1976 AFC Championship Game.
snoopydog48us 2 years ago
Whats that song at the end when atkinson is talking?
COOLBRCOOL 2 years ago
The big difference between the Steelers and the Raiders back then: The Steelers where the hardest hitters, the Raiders on the other hand, where the dirtiest. Yes, they could also hit ( Tatum ) but they're thing was they where dirty. Big difference.
6400az 2 years ago
Yeah right.. Is that part of the Coaches law suit in 76.. lol
GARIFUNA 2 years ago
So you're saying Mel Blount driving Cliff Branch's head to the ground wasn't dirty?
KL58383 2 years ago
When was that? Never seen footage of it.. Did it happen after the Atkinson late hit ( and from behind) on Swann?
6400az 2 years ago
Super Bowls, We Wish:
1977--Cowboys-Raiders (Lost to Denver)
1981--49'ers-Chargers (Lost to Bengals)
1994--Steelers (Lost to Chargers)-49'ers
hugggyion 2 years ago
all BS aside the 76 raiders rank tenth alltime as super bowl champs, they dominated that year, beat Pittsburgh twice to do that
raidernation7878 2 years ago
They did not dominate that year. They got creamed by the Patriots in the regular season and then barely got by in the playoffs against them. ( refs. call not withstanding ).
Also, look at how many close games they had during the regular season.
Never said they were'nt good, but they did not dominate.
6400az 2 years ago
This rivalry ULTIMATELY led to rule changes in 1978.
KL58383 2 years ago
"Chuck Noll...made us all go to court....", arrrgghhhhh!!!!!
hugggyion 2 years ago
...........and testify that the Raiders were too rough for the Steelers.
KL58383 2 years ago
I've heard this narrator before; doesn't he care?--unbelievable--no credibility--the first 30 seconds are totally inaccurate. The Steelers were not manhandled in the opener--it was a close comeback, and the lawsuit was a defamation suit against Noll, hence Atkinson v. Noll.
hugggyion 2 years ago
Why don't we ever see more of '74 and '75 AFC Chamionship Games where the Steelers walk away victorious?
hugggyion 2 years ago
What?!? It was Davis who sued Noll through George Atkinson when Noll challenged his behavior (A forearm to the head when Swann wasn't looking, away from the play)
hugggyion 2 years ago
The Raiders would have been in 10 different super bowls, but sadly..bogus games/calls kept them from going to many (immacculate reception, frozen field in pittsburgh, tuck rule with tom brady *who later admitted it was actually a fumble*, ETC..... the Raiders are overall the best team in the NFL if you look back at history
GrizzlyMonkey15 2 years ago 2
Damn right. When you look at the success they have had at all positions, all levels, I don't think there is a team that can combat them. Maybe the Cowboys and Packers in a sense but they still don't top the Raiders.
Coganboy 2 years ago
Nice to know there are other people with some sense watching these vids :)
GrizzlyMonkey15 2 years ago
Ha! Immmaculate reception was legal--frozen field was simply part of homefield advantage and it didn't stop Franco from putting that game away!!!
hugggyion 2 years ago
Our scoreboard:
Steelers 6
Raiders 3
hugggyion 2 years ago
steelers suck
sweetcuppincakes1 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
That frozen field is the only reason the inferior team, the Raiders, made the game close. The steelers would have blown them out completely in normal weather conditions
jeffee50 2 years ago
EAT YOUR FROZEN PEAS AND SHUT UP BITCH
beaupeep1 2 years ago
@jeffee50 HAH! The Steelers never blew out the Raiders a SINGLE TIME in that era. The Raiders had the better head-to-head record vs the Steelers in that era, and still do all-time. In the playoffs, its 3-3. Its 3-2 in favor of the Steelers for the 70s, with the difference being the Immaculate Reception. But the Raiders CRUSHED the Steelers in the '73, '76, and '83 playoffs. The CLOSEST game was 24-7 in '76
Rikkangel 1 year ago
The Raiders were an excellent team and were due for a Super Bowl in 1976, but for the narrator to say the Raiders manhandled the Steelers in Week 1 is absurd. The Steelers were up 28-14 with under five minutes and gave it away with three turnovers. Oakland should have repeated in 1977, but were screwed big time in the AFC title game to Denver that season. Football fans were robbed of a Raiders-Cowboys Super Bowl, which would have been much more competitive.
Buseystwosubs 2 years ago
The 76' Raiders where a good ball club and they did a number on the Vikings, but they were'nt the best team in the AFC.They lost 48 to 16 or something the like to the Patriots earlier that year. Later, in the playoffs the refs gave them the ball inside the 5 against the same Patriots ( the bogus roughing the passer call on 4th down ).
Beating the Steelers??say what you want, but when you lose TWO 1000 yrd backs, it's going to affect you!!
I don't think the 76' Raiders where the real deal.
6400az 2 years ago
obviously your a hater
slicccccric 2 years ago
Wrong. It was 3rd down when the foul happened. And also, the Steelers were only in the playoffs cause of the Raiders. Not too mention they beat them in the season opener with both backs.
Jikk 2 years ago
Fair eneugh, let's call it 3rd down. But still, it WAS a bogus call. I know what you mean about the Steelers getting in because of the Raiders. They beat the Bengals and allowed for the Steelers to qualify.That's the game where Lambert said he would'nt be surprised if the Raiders layed down just so they don't have to play each other.
The Raiders DID beat the Steelers in the opener, but let's also remeber they started the season 0-4, and then won 11 in a row.
6400az 2 years ago
WTF are you talking about? The Raiders lost one game that year to the Pats and then avenged that loss in the playoffs. To say that one bad loss makes them the worse that year is just stupid. The 85 Bears lost to the Dolphins and had that defense disected by Dan Marinio and never even avenged that loss. Were the Dolphins a better team? HELL NO! Every NFL team in history other than 1 has lost a game, but the team that wins the championship IS the best.
OAKLACLAAUSCFAN 2 years ago
WTF...Never said that.
6400az 2 years ago
WTF....never said they where the worse team buddy.Just that they werent' the best team in the AFC in 76'.
Read my post again.
6400az 2 years ago
you're making no sense, if they wern't the best then they were worse than somebody.
OAKLACLAAUSCFAN 2 years ago
the raiders STILL have the best overall winning percentage among all sp