When comparing the 2 look at in this manner. One was the top of the line Benz the other top of the line Lexus. With either you just can't miss. The beauty for us is we are able to listen to both, go back and forth and decide which one fit your particular mood at that time.
Back then was the best of the best, I mean there where great jazz artists, like Wes Montgomery, Herbie Hancock, Joe Pass, Ahmad Jamal, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Bill Evans, Art blakey,Charles Mingus. These people are the jazz greates of all time plus others.
You know it, Bro. Back in '67, we use to call this ridin' music, meaning we'd get in our lowrider cars w/mags and cruise down PCH in Malibu, CA listening to all those people you named while smokin' a big fat joint!
From 1GlenAlan in CPT, CA (if you know what I mean).
@1GlenAlan O Yeah!. You sound like man who had sum good times. I'm young man, and some young people just don't know how to have fun. But that's how it is with the new generation.
You're right! We had some great times back in those days. On two different Sat. afternoons we had Nancy Wilson and Hugh Masekela performing (LIVE) in the Assembly Hall for us students, and it was FREE!!! Hugh did a tune with Big Black called "A Felicidade". You ought to hear it!!! It took awhile but I finally got on CD. Try looking on website FrostWire.
Oh man, I love Wayne Shorter. He has some of the best, most recognizable compositions in jazz, yet the changes and many other things about them are completely unconventional. great!
Wayne Shorter is a great composer and performer. I think he is close to rivaling John Coltrane for compositional talent and I like him better as a performer. Plus he has more longevity.
@ALTERED13TH Coltrane was a great musician but hardly prolific, profound or innovative as a composer. His innovation was his improvisational style. Shorter is certainly more prolific than Coltrane as a composer and a tremendous improviser. Most jazz compositions are not all that innovative in composition because they are so short. Mozart and 50 other classical composers were far more profound and innovative. The idiom of jazz however as a whole is an innovative as any music on earth.
@ALTERED13TH That's low-lol. How are you gonna take a point from Coltrane for dying. To each her or his own, but Trane was a force he had power and speed (Afro Blue, Chasing the Trane), storytelling (Alabama) and beauty (In a sentimental mood) hard to beat that unique combination. Plus 4.05 to the start of the trumpet solo is all Trane.
@clh2192 You made a wrong inference from my remark about longevity. Longevity and prolificness and artistic maturity often all go hand in hand. Being prolific is also usually a sign of extreme creativity in addition to hard work. Coltrane was great but I believe Wayne Shorter rivals him for creative genius.
@ALTERED13TH i like coltranes compositions but he is more of an improvisor than a composer. He had some classic compositions mostly because their were interesting to solo over. As he evolved he got more into motivic playing and focused more on freer improvisation. Even after the modal stuff he still kept pushing it.
@ALTERED13TH I don't think that Coltrane (if he were here) would put himself anywhere in the same class as Shorter when it comes to being a composer. I love Shorter's tenor playing but Coltrane is the One who revolutionized tenor playing. They wre friends and practised together - both are great.
@ALTERED13TH - Uninformed comment. Shorter, Mingus, Monk, Ellington and a handful of others contributed to the compositional book of jazz on a very high level. As someone posted below, Coltrane wrote songs primarily based on their HARMONIC challenge, but these other composers wrote more balanced compositions - MELODICALLY, RHYTMICALLY and HARMONICALLY.
I suppose internet blogs give everyone a doctorate and 30 years of study to act like experts. Don't profess to know something you don't.
@wreyoG Coltrane was an amazing composer and performer. I just tend to prefer Shorter especially his stuff from the 1960's like JuJu, Speak no Evil, Night Dreamer. He's more modern.
I personally think Wayne Shorter was a better composer than Coltrane. But I like Coltranes improv a lot more but thats just my take. I wish Bird, Coltrane and Shorter could've existed at the sametime though.
@Eradicateify How cool would that have been. Coltrane was a great composer and improviser but my personal preference for both composition and improvising is Shorter. I like his tone a bit more and his lines are a bit more varied than Coltrane's. My favorite tenor player for the tone he got out of the instrument was Dexter Gordon.
You should check out Mario Castro quintet, i heard them up at a cafe in Boston. Trumpeter reminds me of Freddie Hubbard and they played for Dexter Gordon's widow.
That's a very good attempt to explain this space... If you have to tell somebody why then what's the point. Like the old cliche "If you have to ask the price then you can't afford it."
There has never been anything cooler than the early to mid-sixties Blue Note recordings, from the music to the album covers. This was the seriously righteous shit.
It's amazing . Somewhere between the phrase, the time, and the overall melody
There is this place-and you can't get to it if you're not invited and at the door- some guy who looks like Hendrix or Cllifford Brown gives you the pasword. Then it's all abut Texture,color, something warm somewhere either in the temples or the thighs
Believe it not, on this disc Wayne is playing a vintage "Bundy" (essentially a Buescher "Aristocrat") tenor, not a Selmer Mark VI--the same horn that he played on most of his classic sides for Blue Note pressed in 1964.
My first introduction to Wayne Shorter albums was with Night Dreamer. I was fascinated by it. But ever since I've listen to this album, not only has it blown me away completely, I've come to regard it as one of the best Jazz albums of all time. This one in particular is a fascinating track.
Oh to have been in the studio when this was recorded!
ImaniHekima 1 month ago
Old school cool! :)
willie33040 3 months ago
To think that as a youngster I took it for granted that I had all these albums of his and Miles etc.
dallaskenn 3 months ago
Long live Wayne Shorter. One of the few remaining whose name can be mentioned along the likes of Coltrane, Miles, Rollins, Gillespie, etc..
subg88 3 months ago
CHAhhh!!! thats bad cats
zeitguy311 4 months ago
Good shit
Hamburger247 4 months ago
very harmonic.thanks
butchchase 4 months ago
When comparing the 2 look at in this manner. One was the top of the line Benz the other top of the line Lexus. With either you just can't miss. The beauty for us is we are able to listen to both, go back and forth and decide which one fit your particular mood at that time.
royalistp 5 months ago
Back then was the best of the best, I mean there where great jazz artists, like Wes Montgomery, Herbie Hancock, Joe Pass, Ahmad Jamal, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Bill Evans, Art blakey,Charles Mingus. These people are the jazz greates of all time plus others.
MrWarandlove 6 months ago
@MrWarandlove
You know it, Bro. Back in '67, we use to call this ridin' music, meaning we'd get in our lowrider cars w/mags and cruise down PCH in Malibu, CA listening to all those people you named while smokin' a big fat joint!
From 1GlenAlan in CPT, CA (if you know what I mean).
1GlenAlan 3 months ago
@1GlenAlan O Yeah!. You sound like man who had sum good times. I'm young man, and some young people just don't know how to have fun. But that's how it is with the new generation.
MrWarandlove 3 months ago
@MrWarandlove
You're right! We had some great times back in those days. On two different Sat. afternoons we had Nancy Wilson and Hugh Masekela performing (LIVE) in the Assembly Hall for us students, and it was FREE!!! Hugh did a tune with Big Black called "A Felicidade". You ought to hear it!!! It took awhile but I finally got on CD. Try looking on website FrostWire.
[Glen G. from Compton, CA.]
1GlenAlan 3 months ago
@1GlenAlan Thank you sir! But I couldn't find what you said for me to look into.
MrWarandlove 3 months ago
@1GlenAlan
Go on 'the Tube" and search for Big John Patton doing "The Way I Feel". I think you'll like this one! Let me know, okay?
1GlenAlan 3 months ago
...used to listen to this in the early 70's -warm summer California afternoons-
...this is the stuff, allright --thank you so much for uploading :-)
popsaka1 6 months ago
On this day, a great composer was born. Happy Birthday.
myvette1211 6 months ago
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"SPEAK NO EVIL"~この胸のすくイントロ、エキゾチックに飛び込むウェインのテナー~ブルーノートでのショーターは全てジャズの大財産! #jazzm
blackandtanful 7 months ago
Who's playing trumpet on this recording?
sonofthegods2 8 months ago
@sonofthegods2 Freddie hubbard
curtisalvin 8 months ago
Oh man, I love Wayne Shorter. He has some of the best, most recognizable compositions in jazz, yet the changes and many other things about them are completely unconventional. great!
saxophoneninja 8 months ago
oh yes
debbiethewondersheep 9 months ago
Nice long tone in the opening bars, but coltranes playing and foghorn sound leaves me cold
valvetrom 9 months ago
i miss the 70s FM,before music was co-opted by the "market" , this music was routine then!!!
snuffrush 9 months ago
@snuffrush You don't want the market to rule your life? Communist!!!
dragmio 2 months ago
El ,Vin, Vintage, Vibe...
DYNODRUM 9 months ago
SPEAK NO EVIL~イントロのブラスバースで脳が刺激され、ソロに入ると魔界に!~不思議なソロ・音を創る才人ウェインショーター! #jazzm
blackandtanful 9 months ago
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The Painter Braque said , ART is not to entertain, its there to disturb.
Please don't disturb me any further.
valvetrom 10 months ago
The Painter Braque said , ART is not to entertain, its there to disurb.
Please don't disturb me any further.
valvetrom 10 months ago
this song reminds me of nights on the beach in southern Thailand. One of my favorite albums ever
pretorious700 10 months ago
Hey Arnold! xD
Blindbandit1171 11 months ago
i'd put my jass in it
BobBurnnquist 11 months ago
Wayne Shorter is a great composer and performer. I think he is close to rivaling John Coltrane for compositional talent and I like him better as a performer. Plus he has more longevity.
ALTERED13TH 11 months ago 7
@ALTERED13TH Well, you're definitely right on the longevity.
pideloo 11 months ago 26
@ALTERED13TH Coltrane was a great musician but hardly prolific, profound or innovative as a composer. His innovation was his improvisational style. Shorter is certainly more prolific than Coltrane as a composer and a tremendous improviser. Most jazz compositions are not all that innovative in composition because they are so short. Mozart and 50 other classical composers were far more profound and innovative. The idiom of jazz however as a whole is an innovative as any music on earth.
ALTERED13TH 11 months ago
@ALTERED13TH That's low-lol. How are you gonna take a point from Coltrane for dying. To each her or his own, but Trane was a force he had power and speed (Afro Blue, Chasing the Trane), storytelling (Alabama) and beauty (In a sentimental mood) hard to beat that unique combination. Plus 4.05 to the start of the trumpet solo is all Trane.
clh2192 11 months ago
@clh2192 You made a wrong inference from my remark about longevity. Longevity and prolificness and artistic maturity often all go hand in hand. Being prolific is also usually a sign of extreme creativity in addition to hard work. Coltrane was great but I believe Wayne Shorter rivals him for creative genius.
ALTERED13TH 11 months ago
@ALTERED13TH yeah, Coltrane's dead
sulimander 11 months ago
@ALTERED13TH i like coltranes compositions but he is more of an improvisor than a composer. He had some classic compositions mostly because their were interesting to solo over. As he evolved he got more into motivic playing and focused more on freer improvisation. Even after the modal stuff he still kept pushing it.
edcerc 10 months ago
@ALTERED13TH I don't think that Coltrane (if he were here) would put himself anywhere in the same class as Shorter when it comes to being a composer. I love Shorter's tenor playing but Coltrane is the One who revolutionized tenor playing. They wre friends and practised together - both are great.
92ninersboy 10 months ago
@ALTERED13TH - Uninformed comment. Shorter, Mingus, Monk, Ellington and a handful of others contributed to the compositional book of jazz on a very high level. As someone posted below, Coltrane wrote songs primarily based on their HARMONIC challenge, but these other composers wrote more balanced compositions - MELODICALLY, RHYTMICALLY and HARMONICALLY.
I suppose internet blogs give everyone a doctorate and 30 years of study to act like experts. Don't profess to know something you don't.
DaveBassDotCom 10 months ago
@ALTERED13TH yeah but Coltrane wrote so much great and VERSATILE stuff in such a short period...hats off to both composers either way :))
wreyoG 7 months ago
@wreyoG Coltrane was an amazing composer and performer. I just tend to prefer Shorter especially his stuff from the 1960's like JuJu, Speak no Evil, Night Dreamer. He's more modern.
ALTERED13TH 7 months ago
@ALTERED13TH i hear you :)
wreyoG 7 months ago
@ALTERED13TH He's a better composer, in my mind....but as a performer? Coltrane has him beat...by a lot.
groovydude222 6 months ago
@groovydude222 Yeah, probably at least as concerns Coltrane's technical ability on the tenor.
ALTERED13TH 6 months ago
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micahhummel 6 months ago
@ALTERED13TH
I personally think Wayne Shorter was a better composer than Coltrane. But I like Coltranes improv a lot more but thats just my take. I wish Bird, Coltrane and Shorter could've existed at the sametime though.
Eradicateify 1 month ago
@Eradicateify How cool would that have been. Coltrane was a great composer and improviser but my personal preference for both composition and improvising is Shorter. I like his tone a bit more and his lines are a bit more varied than Coltrane's. My favorite tenor player for the tone he got out of the instrument was Dexter Gordon.
ALTERED13TH 1 month ago
@ALTERED13TH
You should check out Mario Castro quintet, i heard them up at a cafe in Boston. Trumpeter reminds me of Freddie Hubbard and they played for Dexter Gordon's widow.
Eradicateify 1 month ago
@Eradicateify Thanks, I just checked out three vid of his on youtube. Great stuff!!!
ALTERED13TH 1 month ago
pink floyd should have done a song with wayne....
dasadopeboy 11 months ago
WAYNE SHORTER/Speak No Evil
saketorasan 11 months ago
That's a very good attempt to explain this space... If you have to tell somebody why then what's the point. Like the old cliche "If you have to ask the price then you can't afford it."
Cornbreadhunter 1 year ago
The quintessential Blue Note track.
Then again, there are more than a few 'contenders'! ;-)
ImaniHekima 1 year ago
miam!
Crapstars 1 year ago
Omg.. I just bought the album because of this most definitely a hot album speak no evil #1 fe-fi-fo-fum #2 witch hunt 2.7 haha
bcsimmons2 1 year ago
@bcsimmons2 heh..i just done the same..bought this and Joe Henderson "Page One"...both are quality albums : )
jnkyrdd0g 1 year ago
favoloso
Skoll666 1 year ago
love this
wesm65 1 year ago
0 dislikes. WOWW
Kaitano94 1 year ago
There has never been anything cooler than the early to mid-sixties Blue Note recordings, from the music to the album covers. This was the seriously righteous shit.
uhmfar 1 year ago 13
@uhmfar Very well said....this was a great period for pure creativity.
ImaniHekima 1 year ago
this has to be tied with all of my favourite records. (i have like 100 favourtie jazz records)
Gatorsfreak21 1 year ago
Wow! Great! Is it the legendary and amazing Lee Morgan on trumpet in that georgeous tune?
CesarAMartin 1 year ago
@CesarAMartin No. It is Freddie Hubbard. Herbie Hancock on Piano, Ron Carter on bass, Elvin Jones on drums + Wayne.
Mansiobass 1 year ago 2
Thanks so much, man, anyway, Freddie is also outstanding as well. Greetings!
CesarAMartin 1 year ago
Listen...to what's being said
william52648 1 year ago
I like the part where Herbie kicks butt.
hatesbostonredsox 1 year ago
Elvin is awesome, i dream of his skill as i play contra.
aghoranathi 1 year ago
Nice jazz piece, Wayne Shorter's cool! And it does have a "detective show" feel to it.
stewbie59 1 year ago
Elvin Jones swings!
55mrj 1 year ago
This comes across so fresh and crisp and cohesive. The snares are snaring like nobodys business. All solos are soulful and smart and with conviction.
luvrealmusic48 1 year ago
please
my summer wishes
sfunkbanks 1 year ago
This is my favorite jazz album, purely from a listener's perspective. It is perfect in almost every way.
Parvenu333 1 year ago
I like the part with the jazz in it!
bobresurrection 1 year ago 44
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@bobresurrection U SPEAK NO EVIL, MAN!!!!
BHDread 11 months ago
Blue Note ruled, no doubt.
Hey, thanks for the music!
DaleCredico 1 year ago
Love this ! Dectevive movie feel ! Shorter is the greatest !
Jazzelegance 1 year ago
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soulfullyanointed 1 year ago
It's amazing . Somewhere between the phrase, the time, and the overall melody
There is this place-and you can't get to it if you're not invited and at the door- some guy who looks like Hendrix or Cllifford Brown gives you the pasword. Then it's all abut Texture,color, something warm somewhere either in the temples or the thighs
anandanaga999 1 year ago 30
@anandanaga999 poetry view
kleyou 1 year ago
@anandanaga999 this has gotta be the best jazz comment i've seen on youtube.
UltraMagnus3786 1 year ago
@anandanaga999 well said... ; )
dasadopeboy 11 months ago
Believe it not, on this disc Wayne is playing a vintage "Bundy" (essentially a Buescher "Aristocrat") tenor, not a Selmer Mark VI--the same horn that he played on most of his classic sides for Blue Note pressed in 1964.
soulfullyanointed 1 year ago
My first introduction to Wayne Shorter albums was with Night Dreamer. I was fascinated by it. But ever since I've listen to this album, not only has it blown me away completely, I've come to regard it as one of the best Jazz albums of all time. This one in particular is a fascinating track.
vastusinternus 1 year ago
thanks giles peterson for playing this track. Amazing!
cominbaby 1 year ago
@cominbaby Gilles is usually on the money ;-)
Rufusdos 1 year ago
I can play this on contra bass like the bomb and will make it famous before i die! Love him in the 60's SOOO much! Go Wayne!
aghoranathi 1 year ago
@aghoranathi Uh, it's already famous to people who know jazz.
pretorious700 1 year ago
@pretorious700 oh yeah, i meant i wish everyone would hear it, it is super.
aghoranathi 1 year ago
wow! amazing piece..
DugieGaloty 1 year ago
It's a real cool enviroment music, with a finest atonality aplication.
jassbo 2 years ago
this is a great tune,and album.
claybornwilliams 2 years ago
great changes!
jazzlefty 2 years ago