yea, that's a limited-motion simulator rig to help get the right g-forces that replicate a car doing a race circuit.
on a race/performance engine, you want to strike an engineering balance. ensure enough function to handle the expected conditions. add in a safety factor, but don't build more than you need. that is why engineering closer to the limits is more expensive... lots more design, testing, etc.
that's why engineering is cool. it is finding the sweet spot to meet competing needs.
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invent something that doesn't pollute is reliable and cheap and i just might get impressed....oh wait it's already been discovered !! it's called THE BICYCLE
@BayouBluesMan Avid mechanic? No one cares that you work for Billy Bobs Repairs down in the Bayou. You sound illiterate and ignorance, please, shut the fuck up.
lol i find it hilarious when people consider a mechanic, someone who can take bolts off and put them back on, the same thing as an engineer, who knows physics, math and studied in universities and have degrees.
Studying a masters in physics... can you optimize the atomization by engineering your own intake manifold?
How does speaking 3 languages help you in fixing cars? Engineers design the whole engine, mechanics (you) bolt it together.
You appear to be a pretty stupid individual so let me dumb it down for you. I design the lego blocks and what you build and i give you instructions. You put it together for me, get it?
@PolishAlexx "How does speaking 3 languages help you in fixing cars?"
pretty stupid question...are u sure u r studying for a masters in physics and don't work in starbucks? best workshop manuals and instructions are in italian
Man thats some serious testing holy crap, good way to find what makes it break or how well the internals hold up to the massive power and lateral forces starving engine of oil? Coooooool
@EdaP79 the only reason this is possible is because damn near all porsches i've seen at least have a dry sump.....which is a COMPLETELY different oiling system. I think from the flat 6 in a 20yr old car to the new ones, they use between like 10-16qts of oil lol
@trevplaydrums06 no im not the speed is what creates the g forces jackass not tilting somethin from left to right its goin into a hard corner at 90mph that makes g forces
i mean yes it can make the oil run from one side to another but i highly doubt that its the same as actual gforces
plus only jackasses answer with sayin someone is stupid with no proff that they are or that u know what ur talkin about
@bobwatters It not speed what creates g forces. It's acceleration. And as long as you dont have a moving engine test rig, using earth gravity for acceleration is the only thing you can do
Another way would be to design a spinning test rig as NASA uses it for acceleration test for astronauts. But that would be big, heavy, expensive and most important: very unreactive as you have to slow down and speed up for different accelerations. And a carussel that weights 10tons+ isnt that easy to slow/speed
@bobwatters Yes, correct. It's called centripetal acceleration: acceleration induced by having a velocity following a curve (a = (v^2)/r, where a is acceleration, v velocity and r radius of curvature of the corner). But acceleration can be generated too by this rig. What you need to do is you assume you have 1G of acceleration in downwards direction (gravity) and whatever lateral G's that you expect to generate at the curves. Then, you find the angle of the resultant acceleration vector...
The purpose of this test is to demonstrate the advantages of a dry sump lubrication system. A normal wet sump engine would probably fail this test. Most high performance engines these days have this kind of system. It's purpose is to keep oil evenly distributed throughout the engine during extreme acceleration, braking and cornering. I'm pretty sure it costs more to manufacture than a conventional wet sump, that's why you don't see it in all cars.
The 996/997 (non GT2/GT3) motors are no longer dry sump. They do have better then average oil control but they have gone to a more of a mass market car.
I doubt that you will see any number of the wetsump cars go past 200k miles without a rebuild where it is common in the older SC anf Carrera models...
1g ismax in any direction? a 45 degree angle of the engine would simulate 1 G of acceleration (or deceleration) :) . think about it. hanging keys on your key chain. If you are pulling 1g lateral, the key chain will only be at a 45 degree angle, not horizontal (90 degree) . in fact, there is NO limit on this machine. it can never actually be horizontal, because of the vector force of gravity pulling straight down. :)
There's going to be hardly any G-force in the rig - it's just replicating the effect of it by sloshing the oil about. I presume they're trying to see what happens if / when they starve the pump of oil.
@internationalfarmer after thinking about I came to dissagree with what I originally wanted to say. when its straight over and stationary its exactly 1G (cause gravity is pulling it down) but when which ever side is moving up it would experience 1G plus whatever the rotational force of rotating the engine up. 1+g's
@nannygoat415 A 45 degree angle equals 1G. So, they can create more than 1G by turning it farther than 45 degrees. It's a very impressive test and extremely impressive to see just how dramatic the forces are on the motor. It's no wonder engines not designed for racing have oil control problems.
g-force= gravity force, that the force that pulls you to the ground. for example: in an average corner in the nurburgring the lateral g-force is about 3 g's, meaning that there is a force of similar to gravity that is pulling you to the outer side of the corner that is as strong as 3 the strength of gravity, meaning that you'd weight 3 times more. it's complicated to tell it to someone who isn't familiar with the term so i suggest you google some more info.
ok i no what g force is! i have known for ages what i am saying is the g this is surposed to create more than what a ww2 fighter would encounter??? the way that rig is throwing the engine about i'd asume there workin out g forces for people who flip cars not normal driving ie where all the wheels stay on the ground
no i think this rig just is the best method there is right now to test the engine's performance when it's under SOME g force stress. i mean they could put it into a centrifuge and have it rotated there and whatnot but not even f1 people do that. in my view, it's just a rig to see if the oil is getting delivered correctly, and if the sensors work propperly, and the overall balance of the engine parts such as pistons and the crank. ect
You need such extreme angles to replicate the g-forces, in this case the g-forces experienced during a lap of the Nurburgring. Under hard braking, the oil is pushed forward, so how do you replecate that in a lab? You have to tilt the engine forward. Whats so hard to understand?
What the fuck is wrong with auto enthusiasts these days. Can you kids discuss one thing about cars without arguing or having a vs. debate? The horse is DEAD, guys. It's 100% decomposed and fleshless by now, there isn't even anything left to kick.
If an alien with no knowledge of earth or humans went on the internet and viewed an "auto enthusiast site" he'd definitely interpret "enthusiast" as "haters".
"You mean, they.... LIKE cars? But, all they do is talk about how much they hate them."
lol at this german vs. american arguement.....look at the Le Mans and you can easily see which is better.....one of the few major successful american cars was the ford gt which won 4 consecutive times
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go suck and lick ur balls u bitch ass mother fucking hoe. where ever your from go suck a guy in ur country if u live in america then go to ugoslavia and slob all on their knob right now bitch as hoe...
and while your at it, you can just take a frog dick, and shove it into the crack of your ass, then while that is happening, 50 pounds of fresh made vomit from rabies infested lumber jacks would pour down upon you like rain on a hot summers day. Stick that in your cylinder and fuck yourself slowly in the face you worthless fuck....
It looks impressive, but what's really happening? Testing for leaks?
I mean, it can't duplicate the actual centrifugal forces acting upon the oil tank. It's the oil tank where all the problems occur with aeration and flow.
At minimum, the oil tank should have been attached to test rig moving with the engine.
A more informative test would be achieved by installing a camera inside the oil tank and running laps on the 'Ring.
If you had read the title it was a test on Engine oil feeds throughout the block... Im sure they tested all other components and feeds outside of the engine at another stage. GO PORSCHE!
It simulates how the oil circulation and other moving parts go true the engine under racing stress and g's forces. A normal engine will run 'dry' under extreme cornering / acceleration / de-acceleration because the oil is being pushed to one side of the engine, resulting in extra friction, more heat, less power and less cooling inside the engine. This is why race engine's need a stronger oil pump with a constant high pressure true the engine.
that's way all German cars Mers., VW,BMW,Opel,Audi,german-Fords,& yes Porsche all take lot more oil then the rest like the nippon cars, even some US cars too so they do run cooler @ higher rpm's speeds!!
I have owned a few porsches in my time.. I will back the second guys comment.. They are the best cars.. It is because of the engineers and the guys on the ground the build them. I will tell you the front office is a bunch of ashwhols.. It is the worst customer service company that gives the core (designers and engineers) a bad rap.. I Think they were rated last in customer service. As good as they are the car still has issues from time to time.. Anyway someone can give me one but I wouldn't buy
but that rig will only generate maximum of 1g... and what about the bumps and crests... esp if it occurs mid corner..? Hope that rig solves the oiling problem on normal 911 engines...
Just thinking further on this, yes I see what you mean. You can put the oil in the same location as it would be on the track no matter what (even upside down) and the G force probably doesn't really matter so I'm changing my mind.
Canada is also a major exporter of electricity to the US (remember what happened in NY a few years ago and everyone started pointing at the Canadians? And the amount of "oil" in the Alberta sands is gigantic. They also make a LOT of food especially grain.
Most importantly their education system isn't bogged down by the religious "right" so they're turning out scientists too.
Meanwhile the USA is spending its time trying to keep Creation out of Science class!!! SCIENCE! ROFLMAO.
Unless this whole rig (including where the camera is mounted) can move in 3D, then it's impossible to simulate a race track like this.
For one thing, you're limited to 1G in any direction because that's all gravity can do and a race car can do over 1G with ease. Also when you're cornering on a level surface, you actually have 1G downwards (at all times because of gravity) PLUS the lateral G from cornering. You just can't imitate that like this.
well, actually, it works. just think about what happens with the oil of the engine, when it turns (brakes, accelerates). so by changing the postion of the engine in a degrea to the potential field of the earth you have more or less the same effect. well, it's about massinerta, and the fact, that force apllied on a liquid works in the whole liquid. sure, there is a differnece to real driving, but it should be insignifiicant.
I guess you can simulate where the oil is in the sump with this technique but you CAN NOT simulate a real drive around a track because the G forces on a track are frequently more than 1G and the only bit of this rig that could reach or 1G is the momentary force created by accelerating the block while twisting it. But you could measure that in milliseconds and on the track, going around a long sweeper (turn) you could have well over 1G for several seconds. That might not matter for this purpose.
Yep. A lot of racing cars, sports cars, and aerobatic aircraft also utilize dry-sump equipped engines because they prevent oil-starvation at high G loads and because their lower center of gravity positively affects performance.
The dry sump offers many advantages, namely increased oil capacity and a lower center of gravity for the engine. Because the reservoir is external, the oil pan can be much smaller in a dry sump system, allowing the engine to be placed lower in the vehicle; in addition, the external reservoir can be as large as desired, whereas a larger oil pan raises the engine even further.
Right, but wouldn't you still need the dry sump to get the proper lubrication? I think it would be a much more interesting race and would open up a whole new world of racing if cars were going upside down at some points ha!
yea, that's a limited-motion simulator rig to help get the right g-forces that replicate a car doing a race circuit.
on a race/performance engine, you want to strike an engineering balance. ensure enough function to handle the expected conditions. add in a safety factor, but don't build more than you need. that is why engineering closer to the limits is more expensive... lots more design, testing, etc.
that's why engineering is cool. it is finding the sweet spot to meet competing needs.
JonkyOnTheSpot 2 weeks ago
In high polution areas, some new Porsches will exaust cleaner air than is sucked in the intake. Bikes dont do that.
LeakyDiaper 5 months ago
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invent something that doesn't pollute is reliable and cheap and i just might get impressed....oh wait it's already been discovered !! it's called THE BICYCLE
...dumbasses
BayouBluesMan 8 months ago
@BayouBluesMan why dont you do that instead of talking shit about pure engineering? you fucking loser keyboard warrior.
benovaja 4 months ago
@benovaja this is actually hilarious u r talking to an avid mechanic ....little molested bitch.
BayouBluesMan 4 months ago
@BayouBluesMan Avid mechanic? No one cares that you work for Billy Bobs Repairs down in the Bayou. You sound illiterate and ignorance, please, shut the fuck up.
gerfall 5 days ago
@gerfall it's "ignorant" trailer trash kid
BayouBluesMan 4 days ago
@BayouBluesMan
lol i find it hilarious when people consider a mechanic, someone who can take bolts off and put them back on, the same thing as an engineer, who knows physics, math and studied in universities and have degrees.
PolishAlexx 4 days ago
@PolishAlexx I speak 3 languages and restore old alfa romeos and ferraris for a living
what's yr resume?
BayouBluesMan 4 days ago
@BayouBluesMan
Studying a masters in physics... can you optimize the atomization by engineering your own intake manifold?
How does speaking 3 languages help you in fixing cars? Engineers design the whole engine, mechanics (you) bolt it together.
You appear to be a pretty stupid individual so let me dumb it down for you. I design the lego blocks and what you build and i give you instructions. You put it together for me, get it?
PolishAlexx 4 days ago
@PolishAlexx lol can u time a v12 colombo ferrari engine?
stick to your gay ass little desk and pensils
BayouBluesMan 4 days ago
@PolishAlexx "How does speaking 3 languages help you in fixing cars?"
pretty stupid question...are u sure u r studying for a masters in physics and don't work in starbucks? best workshop manuals and instructions are in italian
BayouBluesMan 4 days ago
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BabyioCarylia83 10 months ago
this looks mad
stevenJEDI3 10 months ago
gotta say that is very clever.
arfurjohnson 1 year ago
Still a piece of unreliable crap. Porsche lost it's way after the 993. Now it's part of VE.
TheWhupper 1 year ago
@TheWhupper Correct. The 993 was the last true, reliable 911.
SPQRImperator 10 months ago
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@TheWhupper sounds like you never had one.
benovaja 4 months ago
Need to marry you **busizz4me.info**
mayakanthineela 1 year ago
Man thats some serious testing holy crap, good way to find what makes it break or how well the internals hold up to the massive power and lateral forces starving engine of oil? Coooooool
EdaP79 1 year ago
@EdaP79 the only reason this is possible is because damn near all porsches i've seen at least have a dry sump.....which is a COMPLETELY different oiling system. I think from the flat 6 in a 20yr old car to the new ones, they use between like 10-16qts of oil lol
94jettameowpsst 1 year ago
was esnciht alles gibt ey
TheHardstyleHanfry 1 year ago
actually engines dont need oil, its only a fraud made by oil and car companies so they will earn more money.
87tomify 1 year ago
@87tomify tell me what you put in it then? sand to keep your bores smooth :laugh:
MadazRx8 1 year ago
i dont see how this could reproduce the actual g forces without the speed
bobwatters 1 year ago
@bobwatters You're fuckin retarded...
trevplaydrums06 1 year ago
@trevplaydrums06 no im not the speed is what creates the g forces jackass not tilting somethin from left to right its goin into a hard corner at 90mph that makes g forces
i mean yes it can make the oil run from one side to another but i highly doubt that its the same as actual gforces
plus only jackasses answer with sayin someone is stupid with no proff that they are or that u know what ur talkin about
bobwatters 1 year ago
@bobwatters It not speed what creates g forces. It's acceleration. And as long as you dont have a moving engine test rig, using earth gravity for acceleration is the only thing you can do
Another way would be to design a spinning test rig as NASA uses it for acceleration test for astronauts. But that would be big, heavy, expensive and most important: very unreactive as you have to slow down and speed up for different accelerations. And a carussel that weights 10tons+ isnt that easy to slow/speed
Fortatus 1 year ago
@Fortatus speed goin into corners creates g forces
bobwatters 1 year ago
@bobwatters Yes, correct. It's called centripetal acceleration: acceleration induced by having a velocity following a curve (a = (v^2)/r, where a is acceleration, v velocity and r radius of curvature of the corner). But acceleration can be generated too by this rig. What you need to do is you assume you have 1G of acceleration in downwards direction (gravity) and whatever lateral G's that you expect to generate at the curves. Then, you find the angle of the resultant acceleration vector...
Chingchi 1 year ago
@Chingchi This angle is then used to level the rig and simulate the G's of the corner.
Chingchi 1 year ago
Seit wann kommen solche Sachen in die Öffentlichkeit??
Handys und Digicams sind (nicht nur) in Weissach verboten oO
TrabantDaniel 1 year ago
what an ingenious testing tool..awesome.
kestkr 1 year ago
ai é bagual!!!!
everluik 1 year ago
they should strap a chair to it so we can ride it...
thebird1080 1 year ago
This is why you buy a Porsche. :)
modelslist 1 year ago
thats fuckin cool.
kentbrown07 1 year ago
GOTH SOUND¡¡¡¡
theareswhite 1 year ago
What's the Nordschliefe?
th1alb 1 year ago
@th1alb if you like cars you should know what is nordschliefe
JoLXP 1 year ago
@th1alb A test track(race track) in Germany
tonynav1968 1 year ago
@th1alb
the most legendary racing circuit, also called "the green hell"
Slawregas441 1 year ago
sweet Good, what a sound
Kolosina66 1 year ago
The purpose of this test is to demonstrate the advantages of a dry sump lubrication system. A normal wet sump engine would probably fail this test. Most high performance engines these days have this kind of system. It's purpose is to keep oil evenly distributed throughout the engine during extreme acceleration, braking and cornering. I'm pretty sure it costs more to manufacture than a conventional wet sump, that's why you don't see it in all cars.
andy993 1 year ago
The 996/997 (non GT2/GT3) motors are no longer dry sump. They do have better then average oil control but they have gone to a more of a mass market car.
I doubt that you will see any number of the wetsump cars go past 200k miles without a rebuild where it is common in the older SC anf Carrera models...
BorkCubed 1 year ago
lovely...
dandini2999 1 year ago
Porsche rules !! They have the best engines in the world by far...
maxou5757 2 years ago 3
lolz honda civic engine couldn't stand this test
quellkoerper 2 years ago 3
@quellkoerper
Yeah my k20 would blow up as soon as it turned on it's side :(
honda is cool, but their oil sumps are definitely no porsche
w00t692 1 year ago
Man that would suck if your balls got caught in that machine
mistabiggz16 2 years ago 3
@mistabiggz16 and why would you wana stick your balls in there? please tell me, i'm curious ;)
TheZagato89 1 year ago 3
What brand of oil does Porsche use?
haizahaiza 2 years ago
Mobil1...factory fill.
bcatz454 2 years ago
@bcatz454
Thank you for naming the brand. Do you also know the viscostiy?
haizahaiza 2 years ago
0w-40
bcatz454 2 years ago
@TheBloedi81 but it's not moving, so 1G is max in any direction. It doesn't take six years of physics for me to figure that out.
climenuts 2 years ago
1g ismax in any direction? a 45 degree angle of the engine would simulate 1 G of acceleration (or deceleration) :) . think about it. hanging keys on your key chain. If you are pulling 1g lateral, the key chain will only be at a 45 degree angle, not horizontal (90 degree) . in fact, there is NO limit on this machine. it can never actually be horizontal, because of the vector force of gravity pulling straight down. :)
zanick2 2 years ago
the rig is stationary it cannot exceed 1G in any direction.
climenuts 2 years ago
There's going to be hardly any G-force in the rig - it's just replicating the effect of it by sloshing the oil about. I presume they're trying to see what happens if / when they starve the pump of oil.
jamlip 2 years ago 2
By "hardly any g force" do you mean REPLICATING THE NURBURGRING's g forces?
:P
By turning the engine over, you exert 1g +/- a few fractions of a g. Pretty darn similar to what happens when you slam on the brakes...
internationalfarmer 1 year ago 3
@internationalfarmer after thinking about I came to dissagree with what I originally wanted to say. when its straight over and stationary its exactly 1G (cause gravity is pulling it down) but when which ever side is moving up it would experience 1G plus whatever the rotational force of rotating the engine up. 1+g's
nannygoat415 1 year ago
@nannygoat415 A 45 degree angle equals 1G. So, they can create more than 1G by turning it farther than 45 degrees. It's a very impressive test and extremely impressive to see just how dramatic the forces are on the motor. It's no wonder engines not designed for racing have oil control problems.
NBSV1 1 year ago
@NBSV1 Exactly dude, well put.
Chingchi 1 year ago
@climenuts: it can! Acceleration + 1G on 90° and you get more force then only 1G. The engine is stationary in a car, too.
TheBloedi81 2 years ago
that`s the engine saund
Nikolaevv 2 years ago
thats it ! everyone outta my way, im latchin on to that fucker to see if i can hang on for 8 seconds.
Toiger654 2 years ago 43
@Toiger654 lol ride the bull!
Lambo0225 1 year ago
well i never new porsche made air craft engine's i mean if ur car was gettin tossed around like that i think the car would be a wreck
Ruckerjd01283 2 years ago
the rig is designed to simulate g-force.
tohtorigyro 2 years ago
g forces of what a ww2 aircraft
Ruckerjd01283 2 years ago
g-force= gravity force, that the force that pulls you to the ground. for example: in an average corner in the nurburgring the lateral g-force is about 3 g's, meaning that there is a force of similar to gravity that is pulling you to the outer side of the corner that is as strong as 3 the strength of gravity, meaning that you'd weight 3 times more. it's complicated to tell it to someone who isn't familiar with the term so i suggest you google some more info.
tohtorigyro 2 years ago
ok i no what g force is! i have known for ages what i am saying is the g this is surposed to create more than what a ww2 fighter would encounter??? the way that rig is throwing the engine about i'd asume there workin out g forces for people who flip cars not normal driving ie where all the wheels stay on the ground
Ruckerjd01283 2 years ago
no i think this rig just is the best method there is right now to test the engine's performance when it's under SOME g force stress. i mean they could put it into a centrifuge and have it rotated there and whatnot but not even f1 people do that. in my view, it's just a rig to see if the oil is getting delivered correctly, and if the sensors work propperly, and the overall balance of the engine parts such as pistons and the crank. ect
tohtorigyro 2 years ago
@Ruckerjd01283
You need such extreme angles to replicate the g-forces, in this case the g-forces experienced during a lap of the Nurburgring. Under hard braking, the oil is pushed forward, so how do you replecate that in a lab? You have to tilt the engine forward. Whats so hard to understand?
SuperleggeraVW 2 years ago 10
forget it was "taking the piss" fs
Ruckerjd01283 2 years ago
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jaarkaart 2 years ago
@Ruckerjd01283
polyvox83 1 year ago
eita porra pareçe um alien kkkkk
avelabatista 2 years ago
The Ford GT is not ugly, and why would it dream of having this engine?
Ask Heffner about their twin turbo 1000+ hp GT's and he'll tell you how little engine components the had to replace with aftermarket ones!!!
SVT did their homework when they built the engines for the GT!
saskLS1 2 years ago
thats porsche engineering for you. something ferrari cant touch.
no1joey 2 years ago
that was sick!
LTDZach 2 years ago
Muy tosco..... 8 mil rpms??? mm..... naaa aguanten los fiats!!! jajajja
favio1006 2 years ago
What the fuck is wrong with auto enthusiasts these days. Can you kids discuss one thing about cars without arguing or having a vs. debate? The horse is DEAD, guys. It's 100% decomposed and fleshless by now, there isn't even anything left to kick.
If an alien with no knowledge of earth or humans went on the internet and viewed an "auto enthusiast site" he'd definitely interpret "enthusiast" as "haters".
"You mean, they.... LIKE cars? But, all they do is talk about how much they hate them."
xilix 2 years ago 60
@xilix Love and hate are yin and yang - they need each other to survive
mattblack77nz 1 year ago
@xilix how about more HP while having a larger mileage?
AdMiRaLeDpIeTt 1 year ago
@xilix Amen.
LorenzoB16 6 months ago
lol at this german vs. american arguement.....look at the Le Mans and you can easily see which is better.....one of the few major successful american cars was the ford gt which won 4 consecutive times
marquiskarabas 2 years ago
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japan make better reace cars no doubt about it
killa929 2 years ago
Yeah right... okay, the gt40 is a great car... but porsche won 16 times in le mans!
MAD6188 2 years ago
thats what i meant....the ford only has a few titles to their name
marquiskarabas 2 years ago
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xlrationmarine 2 years ago
wow.....
theres alot of money spent on oil right there
SuperMuise 2 years ago
All Porsche engines use dry sump, except those they put in the stupid cayenne. Get a life, stupid americans!
HackebeilHarry 2 years ago
cayenne v8 (S and Turbo) have dry sump.
DisposableWarrior 2 years ago
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mystiknight 2 years ago
@DisposableWarrior Wrong. The Cayenne V8 is a conventional wet sump.
mystiknight 2 years ago
All Porsche engines used to use dry sump...
The 996 and 997 has a wetsump oil system except for the GT2 and GT3 versions. Do a Google search on "996 wet sump" and find out more...
BorkCubed 1 year ago
@BorkCubed Well that sux... Ya, I was under the impression that the 997's were dry sump.
andy993 1 year ago
Porsche 997 uses dry sump dude.
archiebnkr 1 year ago 2
Where the hell was this job at in high school for career day!!! That's awesome!!!
Eury45107 2 years ago
omg its so realistic testing
SERBE4EVER 2 years ago
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Fuck german engineering, US bitches.
TheGuyOnDownStreet 2 years ago
American cars fucking suck
howlingw0lf2 2 years ago
Shut the fuck up, you're just a traiter with you german kissing ass. Lick their balls while you at it you stupid mother fucker.
TheGuyOnDownStreet 2 years ago
Wrong.
theemceemurdah 2 years ago
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go suck and lick ur balls u bitch ass mother fucking hoe. where ever your from go suck a guy in ur country if u live in america then go to ugoslavia and slob all on their knob right now bitch as hoe...
fatqwert200 2 years ago
and while your at it, you can just take a frog dick, and shove it into the crack of your ass, then while that is happening, 50 pounds of fresh made vomit from rabies infested lumber jacks would pour down upon you like rain on a hot summers day. Stick that in your cylinder and fuck yourself slowly in the face you worthless fuck....
fatqwert200 2 years ago
LOL best comment ever. Made my day.
But anyways, give me 3 reasons why American cars are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooo GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOd
howlingw0lf2 2 years ago
The video is superb, but these comments are so funny I had tears rollin down my face!
4Dcardriver 1 year ago
If its a cup car engine Carerra GT3, it'll be a dry sump for sure
sharkfin3 2 years ago
is this HIGH CLASS engineering ?
guld0r 2 years ago 2
A few strange comments here. You guys know this is a dry sump engine, right?
johnnycanada 2 years ago 4
WOW!!! What a sound!!!
kiwigt3 2 years ago 5
porsche engines have such a neat sound
linadsenoj 2 years ago 2
It looks impressive, but what's really happening? Testing for leaks?
I mean, it can't duplicate the actual centrifugal forces acting upon the oil tank. It's the oil tank where all the problems occur with aeration and flow.
At minimum, the oil tank should have been attached to test rig moving with the engine.
A more informative test would be achieved by installing a camera inside the oil tank and running laps on the 'Ring.
But, I'm sure Porsche did that too.
johnnycanada 2 years ago
If you had read the title it was a test on Engine oil feeds throughout the block... Im sure they tested all other components and feeds outside of the engine at another stage. GO PORSCHE!
tomkkkkk 2 years ago
It simulates how the oil circulation and other moving parts go true the engine under racing stress and g's forces. A normal engine will run 'dry' under extreme cornering / acceleration / de-acceleration because the oil is being pushed to one side of the engine, resulting in extra friction, more heat, less power and less cooling inside the engine. This is why race engine's need a stronger oil pump with a constant high pressure true the engine.
SpeedDennis 2 years ago 2
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. At all.
Nettikturbo 2 years ago
Yet with all this testing, they couldn't predict the now common Intermediate Shaft failure (IMS). Caveat Emptor my friends.
johnnycanada 2 years ago
that's way all German cars Mers., VW,BMW,Opel,Audi,german-Fords,& yes Porsche all take lot more oil then the rest like the nippon cars, even some US cars too so they do run cooler @ higher rpm's speeds!!
nvboy2000 2 years ago
Ehmmm or its because porsche uses a dry sump system...
meep32 2 years ago
Some of the new engines are actually a wet sump set up, unless its a special race edition engine...
sharkfin3 2 years ago
all 911 engines are dry sump.
rijowysock 2 years ago
LULZ.
drifterXL 2 years ago
revving the engine and turning it around like this, makes the piston and crank want to break free i guess. only porsche !
nowheelspin 2 years ago
Wow!
mickk44flungie 2 years ago
I have owned a few porsches in my time.. I will back the second guys comment.. They are the best cars.. It is because of the engineers and the guys on the ground the build them. I will tell you the front office is a bunch of ashwhols.. It is the worst customer service company that gives the core (designers and engineers) a bad rap.. I Think they were rated last in customer service. As good as they are the car still has issues from time to time.. Anyway someone can give me one but I wouldn't buy
AlohaD 2 years ago
Put that engine in a robot!
desmodronic916 2 years ago
this simply tests the engine on g force effects and so on blablabla
porsche are simply the best cars in the world because they test every single screw
patrickkroell 2 years ago
This kind of testing is why I believe Porsches are among the best cars built, if not the best.
GargoyleGreenGiant 2 years ago
...one hell of a gyro...:P
t850 2 years ago
this looks wierd!
Ghul 2 years ago
doesn't sound like a Porsche... then again, you dont see too many C4 reving past 6000rpm (where I live)
DeLaSmooth909 2 years ago
der to the last three comments and yes its a test rig
volvogt 2 years ago
omg this is not build by Porsche, this is an AVL Schrick Dyno...
elllllo 2 years ago
Most Certianly does not look like a dyno, looks to me like a simulator to see how the g-forces effect oil pressure..
Cant see any shafts to measure power, looks like a Hydrolicly controled engine mount.
jaydnisevil 2 years ago
WOW. Only Porsche would build that.
al1500321 2 years ago 2
creepy
nurbsenvi 2 years ago
What about during braking and lateral combined..? easily exceed 1g...
funkdoc8686 2 years ago 2
Only with a Spoiler you can reach 1g,...
DiggaBua 2 years ago
That thing makes a sweet noise makes me want to go and buy 1
Irvs311 2 years ago 2
but that rig will only generate maximum of 1g... and what about the bumps and crests... esp if it occurs mid corner..? Hope that rig solves the oiling problem on normal 911 engines...
funkdoc8686 2 years ago
well there aren't that many cars that can do over 1g on lateral acceleration anyway.
kgolles 2 years ago
awesome sounding engine
qwertyboy1234567899 2 years ago 5
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666Laser999 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Music to my ears
sar593 2 years ago
wow, that's cool
zoltan415 2 years ago
Amazing Fucking Machine Porshe 911!!!!
YEAAAAAAAA !!! Niceee vid
FAPNight93 2 years ago
The best flat 6, though one of my favorite
sections of the Nurburgring/Nordschleife.
Hatzenbach
jaarkaart 2 years ago
Damn. Porsche FTW!
ns00 2 years ago
would that be simulating like the G forces of a race? haha its pretty cool
VDZRIDER 2 years ago
Dam nice set up.
coffeefish 2 years ago
I wonder if Ford, Dodge, Chevrolet, Honda, Toyota, Nissan do this kind of testing on their performance cars?
Shittywaffles 2 years ago
they should make a transformer out of that.lol
timrules81 2 years ago
How much to install one of these in my car? =)
PLUOSVSEYR 2 years ago
another high maintence eng
maxpaul11 2 years ago
nowi am dizzy ! lol
ottocars 2 years ago
amazing!!!
bousias 2 years ago 2
Wow! that is cool.
scjesus35 2 years ago
if i could shout like a car, that is what i would sound like!!
lindsaymobil22 2 years ago 6
Nicely said :D
WobblingHobGoblin 2 years ago 2
I really think if that was one of my honda engines it would lock the F*ck up.
voomaldor 2 years ago
Just thinking further on this, yes I see what you mean. You can put the oil in the same location as it would be on the track no matter what (even upside down) and the G force probably doesn't really matter so I'm changing my mind.
Something Scientists are allowed to do. lol
warren52nz 2 years ago
thats cool
spoonnz 2 years ago
Canada is also a major exporter of electricity to the US (remember what happened in NY a few years ago and everyone started pointing at the Canadians? And the amount of "oil" in the Alberta sands is gigantic. They also make a LOT of food especially grain.
Most importantly their education system isn't bogged down by the religious "right" so they're turning out scientists too.
Meanwhile the USA is spending its time trying to keep Creation out of Science class!!! SCIENCE! ROFLMAO.
warren52nz 2 years ago
lol... dude the US has an ultra liberal school system, besides the few creationist advocates, most teachers are virtually marxists!
odinsragess 2 years ago
Unless this whole rig (including where the camera is mounted) can move in 3D, then it's impossible to simulate a race track like this.
For one thing, you're limited to 1G in any direction because that's all gravity can do and a race car can do over 1G with ease. Also when you're cornering on a level surface, you actually have 1G downwards (at all times because of gravity) PLUS the lateral G from cornering. You just can't imitate that like this.
Still really cool to watch though.
warren52nz 2 years ago
well, actually, it works. just think about what happens with the oil of the engine, when it turns (brakes, accelerates). so by changing the postion of the engine in a degrea to the potential field of the earth you have more or less the same effect. well, it's about massinerta, and the fact, that force apllied on a liquid works in the whole liquid. sure, there is a differnece to real driving, but it should be insignifiicant.
ps. sorry, for my bad english, i'm german.
amduser86 2 years ago
Your english is good. But your CPU sucks :D
HighwayHunkie 2 years ago
I guess you can simulate where the oil is in the sump with this technique but you CAN NOT simulate a real drive around a track because the G forces on a track are frequently more than 1G and the only bit of this rig that could reach or 1G is the momentary force created by accelerating the block while twisting it. But you could measure that in milliseconds and on the track, going around a long sweeper (turn) you could have well over 1G for several seconds. That might not matter for this purpose.
warren52nz 2 years ago
You are SO wrong about Canada. At least they don't start bad (or ANY) wars all the time. But putting that aside:
I love the sound of flat engine configurations. Does anyone know what makes them sound like that?
warren52nz 2 years ago
My heart says Porsche but my wallet says Subaru :)
tidewater 2 years ago 2
Awesome engineering, pure lightweigt, low center of gravity (flat 6) power engine.
Naturally aspired, Torque (Nm) * rpm (1/s) = POWER (Nm/s = J/s = W)
Great stuff, thats why american auto is broke.
HackebeilHarry 2 years ago 3
HackebeilHarry: American auto is not broke due to lack of innovation or technical prowess.
American auto is broke because of the Unions, and government meddling (on our behalf? Barf.).
They cannot respond with innovation without huge bureaucratic involvement, and huge financial and labor taxation, in many forms, on the industry.
Small shops are very capable, but like Mr. Tucker, you can see exactly why the people are not being properly served by their 'representatives'.
JRBeaman 2 years ago
Yep. A lot of racing cars, sports cars, and aerobatic aircraft also utilize dry-sump equipped engines because they prevent oil-starvation at high G loads and because their lower center of gravity positively affects performance.
PorscheLieber 2 years ago
The dry sump offers many advantages, namely increased oil capacity and a lower center of gravity for the engine. Because the reservoir is external, the oil pan can be much smaller in a dry sump system, allowing the engine to be placed lower in the vehicle; in addition, the external reservoir can be as large as desired, whereas a larger oil pan raises the engine even further.
PorscheLieber 2 years ago
Wouldn't a dry sump also allow a car with enough speed and downforce to drive in the upside down state?
hennesseyviper 2 years ago
hennesseyviper: That is done by aerodynamics. Lower profile certainly goes a long way to helping the equation.
JRBeaman 2 years ago
Right, but wouldn't you still need the dry sump to get the proper lubrication? I think it would be a much more interesting race and would open up a whole new world of racing if cars were going upside down at some points ha!
hennesseyviper 2 years ago