This is 44 WMN built at David Sutton Motorsport for the British Championship in 1986, this car produced anything from 450-550bhp generally we ran it at around 500bhp, dependant on gearing this car would see 60mph in around 3 seconds and 100mph in under 7 seconds from a standing start with 125mph max, the twin box exhaust was on the car for testing and never completed a rally in this format
Hah! Subaru has consistently been able to shame Audi for reliability. I like Audis and have worked on more of them than you have brain cells but really, they were not terribly durable or reliable. Except for the five cylinder engine in practically every iteration; it was just about bulletproof. They sure do drive nice but you pay for the pleasure. I did say that they were all right in decent climates but if you stuck them in the bitter cold and added a bit of salt they were a nightmare.
@schlusselmensch Audis AWD drive on the other hand is a lot better than Subaru`s.And Audi makes bodys,which dont rust,not like Subaru.On my Audi 5000S for example,has a body,which has galvanised zinc layer on it,thus reducing rust.Jap cars have always had reliable engines,but never a good body,that could stand winters,which are wet and all kinds of miserable weather conditions.Though on the 5pot engine i 100% agree with you,its a very good engine.
Ah, but here we are discussing the early 80 series bodyshells which were not terribly corrosion resistant, although they were better than the 100LS and Fox. Those were just roadgoing shit, pure and simple. You're quite right, Germany wised up and started making better protected bodies. I recall on the Porsches, they started around 1980? with better protection. The difference in corrosion resistance was quite marked.
Thats true.The 100CC i believe even had corrosion resistant body,it was also zinc coated i think.Germany has started to use galvanisation methods on their bodies to reduce corrosion.
I reckon that his blather about Audi making four wheel drive available to the average road car should have included an honourable mention for Subaru. About all Audi did was add enough horsepower to make things interesting. What goes unmentioned was what a monumental piece of shite the early roadgoing Quattros were in all but the gentlest of circumstances. I'd still have one though.
@schlusselmensch Why the fuck should they mention a crappy rice grinder like Subaru.Audi was the first car manufacturer EVER,to make a new and very reliable and light PERMANENT 4WD drive for ordinary road cars.Subaru,like many other firms just copied it.Audi represents true german engineering precision in cars,as its cars look very discreet,though very powerful,fast,user friendly and reliable.I own an Audi 5000S Q and its a very good car.
You've got the FF confused with another model; I'm fairly sure that the FF came to market in 1967. And the Jensen system was by no means complex. In fact, it was surprisingly simple for a British effort.
And of course Range Rovers were out there with full time 4WD much earlier. Not really a car but hard to tell the difference if you're riding in one. At any rate, for those easily offended, I've simply said that the early cars had reliability problems in harsh climates and that Audi was by no means the first with a full time 4WD car. Also, I'd have one in a minute if I could find a good one. They were a superb driving car that easily made up for any of the usual Audi grief.
Hmm,maybe i did confuse it.Though it would be interesting to know,what system did they use.Audi`s system is good,because it has basically same weight as a normal Audi fwd car.Though does the jensen have a permanent awd or like on jeeps,only useable until a certain speed.
The FF was/is a full time 4WD automobile. It did not use the Torsen differential because it was fairly uncommon at that time. The FF center differential was a dual multiplate clutch apparatus that worked very well. The cars were very competent on the road and were no slug with the big Chrysler V8 up front.
Another significant vehicle that had to have inspired 4wd rally car designers was the Baja Boot, which was a quite revolutionary off road racer. And yes, Audi's 4WD system is very compact.
Anyone that's saddled themselves with the nom de plume of "scooterboi" deserves only contempt and derision LOL. Ah, to be a teenager again and know practically everything!
Walter Rohle was quoted as saying the S1 would do 0-60 MPH in 2.6 seconds. I also read that it was driven at a Grand Prix circuit and would have placed 6th on the grid.
AWD made it accelerate and corner so fast that many drivers couldn't handle the G forces and the needed reaction times. Crazy fast cars and crazy close fans added up to "Killer B's"
Where did you read that? I saw a video a long time ago of a Group B interview and the person was saying they were running comparative times to F1 cars and I've never been able to find it again. I'd love to find it...
I believe that it was in a Quattro Club magazine article, but I don't remember which one. Walter Rohrl made the comment, as I recall. It seems that he said the Quattro would have qualified sixth on the grid.
Woollard is talking in miles per hour ... the metric system still isn't used for road speed in the UK today and wasn't even a consideration when this made. So, 0-100MPH in 6.5 seconds. For calibration, a Ferrari Enzo does it in 6.7 seconds (I'd guess the Audi Sport Quattro was king until the McLaren F1 came on the scene in 1994).
how am I wrong? Are you saying the rally version is stock? bozozclown was comparing a "modified" car with a stock showroom car. And show me where a stock 80s quattro made 300hp from the factory.
I was comparing the Audi *Sport* Quattro which is not the same car as the Audi Quattro :-) Your point about it being an apples to oranges comparison is fair though I wasn't actually bothered about how obtainable the car was when I made it (I was just thinking of "road" cars in the loosest possible sense).
2:46,the old quattro bug bear,understeer ! although easy to control in one of these beast's
31144 2 weeks ago
Tom had to have the second silencer to pass strict sound level limits on some hill climb events. Rest in peace Tom...
oldsynth 5 months ago
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paultatters 6 months ago
Brilliant design them clever people at audi. I have an audi and I simply wouldn't buy anything else. The v6's are stunning.
23chilled 9 months ago
This Guy's Hairdo is scaaaaahaaaary!! :D
LazyBastard69 10 months ago
william wollard - ARYAN SUPERMAN.
edwardszzz 11 months ago
Such a nice car. I nearly bought one a few months ago, trouble is the running costs. Changed the face of rallying.
birdman3120 1 year ago 3
never seen a Sport Quattro with two pipes bevore ....
Quattroowner 1 year ago
ANy idea what year this was made?
geffel 1 year ago
AUDI rules all....I have an avant S6..1995..amazing car.
olliespike2 1 year ago
@olliespike2 Agreed. I have a 2004 S4 and it's a delight to drive.
geffel 1 year ago
Audi rocks
dunzhao 1 year ago
what a car... ALL TIME CLASSICS!!!!
4politistos 1 year ago
amazing song and car
GazHasJazzHands 1 year ago
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GazHasJazzHands 1 year ago
standard wrx is same as audi
12valvepower1 1 year ago
Officially the 5 Cylinder motor produced the following power:-
1981/2 A1 - 320-340bhp
1982/3/4 A2 - 340 - 400bhp
1984/5 S1 (E1) 400-500bhp
1985/6 S1 (E2) 450 - 580bhp
1987 S1 (E2) Pikes Peak 598 bhp
In the 88 IMSA series this motor produced a reliable 720 bhp and up to 800 bhp for qualifying
paultatters 1 year ago
This is 44 WMN built at David Sutton Motorsport for the British Championship in 1986, this car produced anything from 450-550bhp generally we ran it at around 500bhp, dependant on gearing this car would see 60mph in around 3 seconds and 100mph in under 7 seconds from a standing start with 125mph max, the twin box exhaust was on the car for testing and never completed a rally in this format
paultatters 1 year ago
buggatti is owned by vw/porsche/audi
12valvepower1 1 year ago 2
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GazHasJazzHands 1 year ago
you know guys this is really the car of the decade because the present cars like bugatti veyron uses this cars formula eg awd
g37muflih 1 year ago 2
Hah! Subaru has consistently been able to shame Audi for reliability. I like Audis and have worked on more of them than you have brain cells but really, they were not terribly durable or reliable. Except for the five cylinder engine in practically every iteration; it was just about bulletproof. They sure do drive nice but you pay for the pleasure. I did say that they were all right in decent climates but if you stuck them in the bitter cold and added a bit of salt they were a nightmare.
schlusselmensch 2 years ago
@schlusselmensch Audis AWD drive on the other hand is a lot better than Subaru`s.And Audi makes bodys,which dont rust,not like Subaru.On my Audi 5000S for example,has a body,which has galvanised zinc layer on it,thus reducing rust.Jap cars have always had reliable engines,but never a good body,that could stand winters,which are wet and all kinds of miserable weather conditions.Though on the 5pot engine i 100% agree with you,its a very good engine.
Henzzman 2 years ago
Ah, but here we are discussing the early 80 series bodyshells which were not terribly corrosion resistant, although they were better than the 100LS and Fox. Those were just roadgoing shit, pure and simple. You're quite right, Germany wised up and started making better protected bodies. I recall on the Porsches, they started around 1980? with better protection. The difference in corrosion resistance was quite marked.
schlusselmensch 2 years ago
Thats true.The 100CC i believe even had corrosion resistant body,it was also zinc coated i think.Germany has started to use galvanisation methods on their bodies to reduce corrosion.
Henzzman 2 years ago
According to wikipedia Lancia won the 1983 WRC Constructors' championship with the rear wheel drive Lancia 037 and Audi took it in 1982 and 1984.
Molo9000 2 years ago
Pure porn.
Henzzman 2 years ago
I reckon that his blather about Audi making four wheel drive available to the average road car should have included an honourable mention for Subaru. About all Audi did was add enough horsepower to make things interesting. What goes unmentioned was what a monumental piece of shite the early roadgoing Quattros were in all but the gentlest of circumstances. I'd still have one though.
schlusselmensch 2 years ago
@schlusselmensch Why the fuck should they mention a crappy rice grinder like Subaru.Audi was the first car manufacturer EVER,to make a new and very reliable and light PERMANENT 4WD drive for ordinary road cars.Subaru,like many other firms just copied it.Audi represents true german engineering precision in cars,as its cars look very discreet,though very powerful,fast,user friendly and reliable.I own an Audi 5000S Q and its a very good car.
Henzzman 2 years ago
@Henzzman, Audi for sure wasn't the first. As far as reasonable production quantities, the Jensen FF takes that honour easily.
schlusselmensch 2 years ago
They were made on the same year.Audi also came out with the Quattro in 1980The difference is,that Audi`s system was better and more simpler.
Henzzman 2 years ago
You've got the FF confused with another model; I'm fairly sure that the FF came to market in 1967. And the Jensen system was by no means complex. In fact, it was surprisingly simple for a British effort.
schlusselmensch 2 years ago
And of course Range Rovers were out there with full time 4WD much earlier. Not really a car but hard to tell the difference if you're riding in one. At any rate, for those easily offended, I've simply said that the early cars had reliability problems in harsh climates and that Audi was by no means the first with a full time 4WD car. Also, I'd have one in a minute if I could find a good one. They were a superb driving car that easily made up for any of the usual Audi grief.
schlusselmensch 2 years ago
Hmm,maybe i did confuse it.Though it would be interesting to know,what system did they use.Audi`s system is good,because it has basically same weight as a normal Audi fwd car.Though does the jensen have a permanent awd or like on jeeps,only useable until a certain speed.
Henzzman 2 years ago
The FF was/is a full time 4WD automobile. It did not use the Torsen differential because it was fairly uncommon at that time. The FF center differential was a dual multiplate clutch apparatus that worked very well. The cars were very competent on the road and were no slug with the big Chrysler V8 up front.
Another significant vehicle that had to have inspired 4wd rally car designers was the Baja Boot, which was a quite revolutionary off road racer. And yes, Audi's 4WD system is very compact.
schlusselmensch 2 years ago 2
To schlusselmensch, I 'm starting to think that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
scooterboi17 2 years ago
Anyone that's saddled themselves with the nom de plume of "scooterboi" deserves only contempt and derision LOL. Ah, to be a teenager again and know practically everything!
schlusselmensch 2 years ago
i wonder why there is a twin box exhaust fitted to this sport quattro as i have never seen them on any other rally version, any one know ?
TheQuattroking 2 years ago
Thanks for uploading! When was this aired?
JTuhkanen 2 years ago
Walter Rohle was quoted as saying the S1 would do 0-60 MPH in 2.6 seconds. I also read that it was driven at a Grand Prix circuit and would have placed 6th on the grid.
AWD made it accelerate and corner so fast that many drivers couldn't handle the G forces and the needed reaction times. Crazy fast cars and crazy close fans added up to "Killer B's"
StephenSchewe 2 years ago
Where did you read that? I saw a video a long time ago of a Group B interview and the person was saying they were running comparative times to F1 cars and I've never been able to find it again. I'd love to find it...
wanvaldez 2 years ago
I believe that it was in a Quattro Club magazine article, but I don't remember which one. Walter Rohrl made the comment, as I recall. It seems that he said the Quattro would have qualified sixth on the grid.
StephenSchewe 2 years ago
Woollard is talking in miles per hour ... the metric system still isn't used for road speed in the UK today and wasn't even a consideration when this made. So, 0-100MPH in 6.5 seconds. For calibration, a Ferrari Enzo does it in 6.7 seconds (I'd guess the Audi Sport Quattro was king until the McLaren F1 came on the scene in 1994).
bozozclown 2 years ago
0-100 in 6.5 from the tuned car, not stock. He says 550 bhp, the stock Quattro had less than half that.
YoureRacist 2 years ago
wrong ... the rally version called "Quattro" reached 640+HP in some cases. And the road version called "quattro 20v" reach 300HP i guess ...
parraf 2 years ago
how am I wrong? Are you saying the rally version is stock? bozozclown was comparing a "modified" car with a stock showroom car. And show me where a stock 80s quattro made 300hp from the factory.
YoureRacist 2 years ago
I was comparing the Audi *Sport* Quattro which is not the same car as the Audi Quattro :-) Your point about it being an apples to oranges comparison is fair though I wasn't actually bothered about how obtainable the car was when I made it (I was just thinking of "road" cars in the loosest possible sense).
bozozclown 2 years ago
mine is very quiet., remdins of a vw sounds.
12valvepower1 2 years ago
my wrx is around 5-6 sec. but im not that harsh on her though. i love my awd. mmmmmmm
12valvepower1 2 years ago
I'm guessing the 0-100 in 6.5 seconds with 550 hp is in MPH. That's fast :-)
TapestryGuy 2 years ago 3
well theres a 0-60 mph of about 2.3, so safe to say 0-100 in a lot less than 6.5
19SAS 2 years ago 3
3:15
0-60mph is the same as 0-100kmh in 6.5sec
bmxridershiz 2 years ago
the best.
dinniwell999 2 years ago 3
Superb flashback that - Nice one !
GwyndafS2 3 years ago 17
did you find this among your tapes mate? interesting stuff.
ohgoshdirector 3 years ago 8