Catholic Mass - The Entrance

[bigbadwolff1]

these people venerate humans

[MyBetty111]

The Novus Ordo Mass is rarely valid. It is too Protestant with too many lay people in the sanctuary.

[MyBetty111]

The wording is everything. It is a sacrifice. The Protestants in the 16th century called it a meal. These two concepts cannot co-exist in harmony. Stop making Novus Ordo excuses.

[MyBetty111]

It is not a meal but a Sacrifice. A 'meal' has a casual conotation. The 'meal' concept has been responsible for the ruination of Catholic Church architecture, the destruction of high altars & their replacement with Julia Child's table & the casual mayhem of lay people crowding around it. Vatican II liturgical abuses. Check out the Orthodox definition, not "Luther's Mass" or the dumbed down Novus Ordo Mass, which very often is NOT a valid Mass (Malachi Martin).

[batthatisbat]

@MyBetty111 Some people might call it a "meal," and whether that is appropriate or not depends on what they consider a "meal." If a meal is a snack, then that might be inappropriate. However, if a meal is that one special time of day after coming home from work, a time to gather the entire family in the presence of God, etc, etc. then I can see the logic behind it. At the same time, it is a sacrifice. What I am trying to say is that the wording may change, but they all describe the same essence.

[MyBetty111]

The table of the parish family? It is not a table, it should be a high altar!

[batthatisbat]

@MyBetty111 I wouldn't presume to tell Catholics what "should" be in their own church, but I think the reference was to the Last Supper. At the last supper, Jesus ate with his disciples; at the mass, the priest eats with the rest of the parish (i.e. the Eucharist) so it's an altar, sure, but also a dinner table.

[sungmoon1987]

@batthatisbat Yes but we would'nt use it as a dinner table like we do these days. So it might be inappropriate to call it as such.

[batthatisbat]

@sungmoon1987 It might be inappropriate, or it might be not be inappropriate. I think "dinner table" describes one aspect of the altar, but of course, it does not accurately describe its entire essence as Catholics see it. Furthermore, what kind of dinner table are we talking about? See,the language is debatable. To describe something spiritual in material tongues is difficult.

[pipeup1]

The entrance procession itself is an act of worship!!