I agree with Robert also--what exactly has MeMe accomplished?? Nothing. She spouts her opinion, in a nearly hysterical fashion (laughing at nothing in particular during conversation). That's all she does.
MeMe Roth...LOL. Philip was quite correct in stating that the United States has been pushing the low-fat/high-carb failure of a diet/eating plan for decades. It's just that--a failure. The only ones benefiting are food manufacturers and diet quacks writing books pushing this idea.
Wow, once again Roth is extremely rude and refuses to let others talk, because she knows her rhetoric will be disproved. She also repeatedly belittles other persons in the conversation with her snide and sarcastic attitude and comments. Claiming that the one person for example, "No one knows what you're talking about anymore". I think she's quite the one who's rambling on. How annoying. I'd like to hear other, more informed points.
Tax fat people, not the food. We already tax cigarettes. A study following almost 50,000 people showed that being overweight was as unhealthy as smoking 1/2 pack per day.
And btw. Fluoride is a good thing to add to water. Just like Iodine is a good thing to add to salt. I'm not sure the basis of your reasoning. My ideas were learned in medical school.
Meme didn't answer the question about low people...Meme is not low income so like the other man said..you must meet people where they are...I would like meme to be able life on less then 5 dollars a day..which is what Food stamps break down into...a bag of apples cost more then a box of snack cakes.....and food banks will have more can goods.. then fresh fruits and vegetables...
The human race is center around Food....all you need to do is find balance with everything in life..when we label..we stray from the mission and try to put people in a box...we do need to improve the quality of food and make healthy food accessible to everyone..and don't eat when you are hunger..you body will crave it own shape...but we are not going to be skinny..and size does not equal health..because we are all going to die..but we don't have to suffer while we are living.
So, are athletes exempt? Trust me, not all of them eat like birds...some do have to consume high calorie/fat-loaded/sugar-infested substances because it supplies max' quick absorption energy in low quantities. It's just a way for a not-so-benevolent gov't to 'parent' people and likely misuse revenue at their pleasure.
If you want healthcare you have to pay for it! Either through insurance or by taxes, there is nothing for free in this world, besides lies from the mouths of politicians.
I'd rather move to the usa or canada and be fed GMO like a rabbit. Anyway, as long as you give away the right to decide over your own life "by vote" to any man you are an idiot. That right used to be yours.
This was a really strange debate. All three guests had a solid point atleast once during the overly-long discussion, but it got completely LOST amid all the crazy personal insults.
The guy that was pro-butter was just weird, but the guy attacking 'mimi' was nutty! What was his deal? Just doesn't like thin women?
What a messed up debate! Crosstalk, better guest vetting next time - this was plain embarrassing.
@101johngalt YES. You have no idea how annoying it is when I see 'low fat' everywhere and what I need, literally, just to stay at a healthy weight is heavy foods for the same reason. The worst flaw of this tax, and Robert made (or at least tried to make) this point, is that it assumes all people are in the same position, and eat 'fatty' foods for the same reason (or lack of one) which is ignorant and factually wrong.
“If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny.” - Thomas Jefferson Read Thomas Paine's Common Sense. Government has more than overstepped their bounds.
what a little cunt of a host, i dont even have to listen to the arguements being made and still realize that the black guy is being completely cut out of the arguement, to the point where he has to start yelling over the others to get a say in.
Another gimick from the Elite to make money off the Poor. The only ones that need to be taxed are the Elite for their FAT WALLETS. 90% tax on the Elite and Corporations.
What a gruesome pig that ugly young woman is. She's got a fat ass future ahead of her & is running scared. By 40 she'll have an eating disorder if she doesn't already. That's what happens to ppl from fat families who are so prejudiced against their own.
People should have access to all of the information regarding unhealthy foods. This would enable them to make rational decisions about what they are going to eat. Then, once you've done that, if they still want to eat unhealthy foods...let them!! The only responsibility we have is providing the information. Once we've done that, the responsibility to make good choices is all on the consumer, and if they fail to do that, so what? It's their problem...
What if a person WANTS to eat fatty foods? If people are denied that right from prior to the moment they are born, that is STEALING that right from them without their consent...without the ABILITY to get their consent. It is not morally acceptable to be making decisions for unborn babies, decisions which they should be allowed to make (in life) on their own...that is ridiculous. Get that woman off of your program!
Also, that woman in New York isn't stupid, but she's very rude. She's very condescending. She fails to acknowledge the moral failure of policies which try to mandate what people can or cannot consume...sure, people should be encouraged not to do unhealthy things...but not with monetary incentives, like making unhealthier things more expensive, nor making them illegal. The guy from LA is right, she lacks compassion...honestly, she's kind of a bitch.
Consuming things which are unhealthy is, and should be, a right; how I deal with my health is MY decision, and I should be the sole an exclusive party to regulate it. Just because something is unhealthy does not mean government needs to step in; health is a private matter. If people want to consume something which harms their health, that should be THEIR decision and no one else should play a role in that decision, aside from informing the consumer, when asked to do so by the consumer.
Government should not be allowed to mandate what we can and cannot consume. Just like taxing people who are obese, adding extra taxes for unhealthy foods is unethical, controversial, and should be avoided (the same goes for smoking- it doesn't matter whether or not it has an effect on consumption, it's WRONG. it's UNETHICAL. it's IMMORAL. it's UNJUSTIFIED. Cigarettes are bad for you, so are fatty foods...however, government has no place to prohibit the people from consuming either)
They're completely missing the point: PERSONAL CHOICE, end of fucking discussion.
Why do you think that ppl in the lower class eat unhealthy food more often?, because healthy food is usually MORE expensive.
Want healthy people?, make healthy food cheap as fuck (or just free), problem solved because then ppl aren't influenced by the price tag and they can just choose what they WANT to eat.
Besides, IMHO alot of "healthy" food usually tastes like shit, might wanna fix that ;).
well thats the thing, they claim that cigarette smoking has declined because of the tax, but whenever i go to a hockey game at intermission there are HUNDREDS of people outside smoking, many of which go to indian reserves and buy their generic brand which the government doesnt have knowledge of purchase therefore in their ignorant or deceitful, you decide, methods of statistics they claim smoking has gone down
The intro claimed that taxing cigarettes reduced consumption. Perhaps the tax hindered people starting (good!), but along the Canadian border cigarette smuggling is a big issue. The higher price has driven cheap cigarettes underground.
So the people who smoke wont necessarily stop because of a tax.
Subsidize the raw foods and educate!!
I think Mimi is right that special interests want people 'fat and happy' so they'll continue to be 'useless eaters'.
SURE drink that water...water with FLUORIDE is NOT HEALTHY.... Prozac 90% Fluoride
RELAX AMERICA.....SLEEEEEEEEEEEEP...or see what Monsanto is up to with seeds, farmers arrested for eating-sharing HEALTHY FOOD! We already have FOOD POLICE!
@VIVANOVACHICAGO Most water has flouride in it naturally, and many areas have over medically recommended levels of natural flouride in it, namely the Western US. People have been drinking it for eons. You don't become sleepy from flouride. It is used in medications and toxins because it has little effort in forming chemical bonds and is usually used as a binder. You can't generalize the toxicity of flouride due to it's ability to form many different bonds many of them non-toxic.
@Lemonz1989 Very interesting, & happy you made note of the extra fluoride being introduced to water supplies. Notice recently that many areas are removing it from their drinking supply via vote. That aside, I'm sorry you thought I meant Fluoride will induce sleep, I was referring to " They Live - We Sleep". A MUST MOVIE! Be good to yourself & others - we just may dance. ^_^
@VIVANOVACHICAGO Yes, I'm quite torn on the issue of adding flouride to the water supply. There are documented differences in tooth decay between people living in areas with flouride in the water and without (naturally or not). But I'm sort of stuck at the ethical issue of "forcefully" medicating entire populations (possibly) against their will. But the levels put in water by officials is not dangerous to humans. :)
@VIVANOVACHICAGO There are filters now for water that take out flouride and companies that sell water that is flouride free if you dont agree. So theres no excuse to not drink water. Also their is organic food companies out there and you can make your own(Grow your own plants, make your own drinks, etc).
These people are the worst fucking debaters I've ever seen. They should have invited someone who understands what it means to be taxed and the affected demographic instead of these fucking retards.
@LegendCorridor *Facepalm*. Its cause high calories and sometimes a thing called family genes. So by your logic you would call american football players like the Defensive and offensive lineman lazy due to their weight or even fowards in Rugby such as the props that even though they have to keep to diets to be fit.
This is whats wrong now everybody listen...there is too much debating over common sense and someone needs to just have the fuking balls and do what's instead of trying to do what's right without hurting others..sorry for cussing..
Tax the fuk out tobacco alcohol and a little on junk food but we do need sweets like the moron from England was saying
Hey moron, I said Jews should pay more taxes, get a clue.
Blacks commit 7x more violent crimes in America and interracial rape is nearly all black on white. Blacks also disproportionately benefit from welfare, yet are the most obese people. They're all kinds of fucked up.
@LegendCorridor You're completely ignorant. Laziness has nothing to do with being fat just from the simple fact that it's much easier to consume high calories than it is to burn them off unless you're an extreme athlete exercising 6-8 hours a day.
The problem is we didn't evolve eating this many calories, for most of our evolution we were in a situation of near starvation, always foraging or hunting. Now food is overly abundant and our bodies can't handle it.
And fat people must pay higher rate called "Fat Healthcare insurance," And pay higher airfare called "Fat Seat." Obese is such heavy weight load should be charged more since luggage is charged by the weight.
MiMI is right. Obese people are getting to that point because they are uneducatable. They should be sent to boot came or called FAt jail to work off starve off those fat.s
@overseachininadoll The problem with this solution is that it taxes everyone, not just fat people. It's really just a way to screw the taxpayer out of more money with some lame justification of health. In effect all this does is just allow the more wealthy to be fat.
Black guy is dead wrong. Talking a bunch of nonsense. I've lost considerable weight and diet was all that I had to change. Didn't have to exercise anymore or do anything else other than curb the amount of calories and saturated fat I took in. Most people get overwhelmed by all this crap that's telling them they have to be a marathon runner to be skinny or live off of salads and green crap.
When the dollar crashes, food prices will be higher and hence it will become a forced diet. I don't want to see fatties lining up for soup. Take a look at starving Africans.
well just make a sugar tax, since sugar is the biggest culprit in obesity. (look for video bitter truth about sugar). that way, the manufacturers of processed foods will take out all that high fructose corn syrup. I'm sick of taxes. I think oyu guys should pay an oxygen tax and stop breathing my air!!
@Plum369 You make a good point. Corn Syrup is terrible for the body it makes you more hungry, increases consumption. That is why Mcdonald's and all fast food places push soft drinks with their food so you don't get full and buy more. I only drink sugar soda when I go for one now and then.
Well,.. The U.S. Gov is causing inflation from mass money printing, so food will skyrocket without a fat tax. and believe me, that will cause people to eat less.
In reality, Gov needs to stop subsidizing corn and big agro etc. that would help increase the cost of junk food without directly taxing the public. Government is what needs more control not the public. Just look at or deficit.
@Whatistheissue I agree, Jews should pay kosher taxes and blacks should pay a crime tax because they commit more crime and thus are a strain on the resources of government.
The ugly witch w/the big mouth will be a big fat ass later in life. It's easy for her to talk about it now. Who can't be thin at her age? Shit, she's not even thin. But she sure is one ugly person.
This is frankly unbelievable! Some people are struggling to afford to eat, And here they are talking about putting Tax on food.
Only afew weeks ago a british couple committed suicide due to not been able to afford food, Not to mention the millions of kids living in starvation around the world, That has gone on so long its almost become the status quo, And here we are having an obesity ''epidemic''! (You could'nt make it up.)
so basically tax you for eating something some people love to eat? fuck off. i LOVE to have a bic mac once a month, but apparently i deserve to be punished for it. HEY GOVERNMENT!!! I HAD MCNUGGETS FOR LUNCH TODAY, IM HOLDING YOUR $1 BILL IN MY ASS. COME ARREST ME FOR TAX EVASION TOO!!!
If it's going to happen, it would help if the tax raised went to lowering the price of healthy food. Just giving the money to an education bureau or the medical industry would be a waste.
Americans are addicted to synthetic food. Try organic for a month, skipping meats, sugars and dairy and you'll see that you have been put in shackles. Your grandparents had no idea what was going on. They allowed these organizations to have full control of their lives and blindly supported such controls with their American egos. While you let them blame you for being fat, having cancer, autism, add and all disease, know that it's not your fault, but you NEED to change NOW or it's on you. peace
People and I'm thinking of little kids are going to go Hungry over someone's ignorance ... everyone tries to lose wieght to one person that comes easy and others its a life long struggle .... Some people have a thyroid or are diabetic they can't control it with just diet alone
Someone hired the lady to instigate an argument ... Its genetic everyone is different and starving yourself over exerting yourself to lose 5 pounds works for young person with a high Motabolism ... Basic common sense tells you cutting down on your calerie and fat intake will make you lose wieght and we found the complete opposite ... the art of dieting has become a lost cause
@tonyvac25 Mimee you don't know what your talking about .... New York has a basic Philosophy of C. Y. A. instead of CYA get the facts and experimental metical historical statistics
Nobody mentioned about stopping the food producers messing with food and adding GMO corn and soia syrups? Meaby tax the corporations which make the junk food.
The english guy is right!!! Me and many other people are now on a high saturated fat, low carb diet and it WORKS!! CRAZY to TAX such important nutriënt.
RT is laying down some serious journalism with this roundtable discussion regarding a tax on high calorie food products. Wait, who are the fattest people in the world? That's right, Americans and the British! I say to hell with the tax, what the world needs is for Putin and Medvedev to go down to their old rotting Soviet weapons cache and break out the nuclear warheads. Then they can get a team of Mongolian immigrants to paint them like twinkies and fire them into the heartland. Problem solved!
I always buy things from the dollar menu, my fat friends always buy the more expensive fast food items. Fattys don't care about costs, they just wanna chow down.
@Frances3654 What they should do is get Jay-Z to write a new club song called, "Get Your Big Mac On" and everyone will think that being fat and eating McDonald's all day is cool. The economy will recover within weeks and then RT will have to start producing better propaganda videos to get through all the layers of lard built up in the brains of Americans.
Government has the gift of corrupting everything it touches.
Look at the college system, look at the farming system. The social security is broken, the offence expending is of the charts, they cut NASA's budget...
How can anyone even consider to give more power to the government?? Do they even have a right side brain? did someone removed it to deprive these poor people of any critical thinking skills?
As much as Mimi is a obnoxious cunt, she's right. Fat people have to "diet."
Meaning they didn't eat right and exercise, so now they have to lose weight. Our diet is what we eat on a regular basis. People can't be lazy, eat whatever, and expect to be healthy. IMO, this sound should change its format or be called the "the argument show: loudest/rudest person is heard the most."
I suppose she thinks laughing makes her sound smart. Mainly she comes off as arrogant and would make the average person do the opposite of what she says out of spite. Its not her right or anyone elses to tell me or my family what to eat. Im healthy, in shape, and eat whatever the hell i want because I chose to.
I only eat the products free of sugar and full of the aspartame anyway, so it won't affect me I think maybe so I don't really know... whats the question???
a FAT TAX? are you kidding me, please, PLEASE explain to me how taxing already expensive food will somehow NOT make preservative loaded, fatty, sodium, cheap fast food look even MORE appealing to people. this annoying double standard woman actually twice said 'im responsible about what i eat.' problem solved! how about health insurance is charged like my life insurance? make the person whos overweight, smokes and doesnt take care of themselves pay more than me, not the same, for health insurance
last thing... we shouldn't depend on the gov to tell us how to take care of ourselves. You shouldn;t sacrifice freedoms for security (the security from getting fat). Leave things be, just make healthy foods cheaper. If people are too dumb/lazy to take care of themselves... fuck 'em. Life is survival of the fittest after all, you shouldn't hold someones hand through life.
Meme needs a refresher course of kindergarten. Communication is as much about listening as speaking. Her shrieking throughout the entire program made communication impossible. Another wasted 30 minutes.
They shouldn't tax ANY foods, on the contrary, what they SHOULD do is to make healthy natural foods cheaper and more available. If you compare the ratio of boxed and canned shit to natural foods in the supermarket, you will see a huge difference between not just the quantity, and availability, but also the price. Taxing food is just a disaster waiting to happen. If your gonna tax anyone, you should tax the fat people. They are the ones the already fucked up. Thats the only FAT TAX I support.
This is just a way to hide the fact that food all across the globe will be way more expensive. And a way to recover losses for this fact. If they really wanted to truly help then the companies and corporations that make all this garbage food should be regulated, not the people that can only afford these types of food.
22:00 thats why nuts and fish are some of the healthiest foods.. many fats and oils are healthy, I can't belive that woman is shouting over him fats make you fat.. maby she was one of the people that desided that pizza should be calssed as a vegetable in the us..
Read The China Study. The HEALTHIEST people on earth are the ones with the lowest fat intake. Compare the western diet to the diet in asia - rice makes people more healthy and slim than pork fat and oil.
14:00 thats what its about... A tax would make good foods which are already expensive even more so like cheese. Also the tax could lead to more artifical sugars which are far far worse..
These people are all fucking idiots. They don't even know enough about diet to take these types of measures. The average asshole thinks that fat can make you fat, when it can't, and that beef is bad for your heart, when in fact beef is better for you than salmon...
Wait, you're saying eating fat doesn't make you fat? Alright, smartass, go eat a few bars of butter every meal. Tell me how things are in a few weeks.
@berkshireee Dur...dur...dur If you knew anything about endocrinology you would not have made this statement, go to school learn some fucking bio chemistry, your body cannot process fat into fat, it can only process starch and proteins into fat... herp a derp
That lady was soooo freaking annoying. She just laughs at everyone who has a different opinion to hers. She sounds like O'reilly, except she mocks people istead of flat out overshouting them. Extremely rude, neverthless. And that guy is right, they have taken out ALL fat from food, and people's brains are starved, which is why people don't function too well around this country.
And I have a feeling that lady's brain is starved too, all she can do is laugh and repeat her bullet points.
I agree with Rober, I use to be fat. Now I'm back to normal beacouse i know what and not to eat. This Fat Fax is all about the Gov getting money -.-, they don't give a flying fuck about our health.
This is a perfectly good example of why I would be happier in a stateless society, no tax and dumb blondes like her because they would be weeded out LOL. I know its wrong to have this Darwinian outlook on society, but when you see the level of stupidity and assfuckery that goes on in America I think you would share my views. This woman is SMART by American standards, my family is poor as fuck and the fat tax would destroy us. Tobacco tax is already killing me! I don't want to live forever!!
I'm all for the fat tax!!
DontForgetIran2010 1 week ago
I agree with Robert also--what exactly has MeMe accomplished?? Nothing. She spouts her opinion, in a nearly hysterical fashion (laughing at nothing in particular during conversation). That's all she does.
micmac12000 1 month ago
MeMe Roth...LOL. Philip was quite correct in stating that the United States has been pushing the low-fat/high-carb failure of a diet/eating plan for decades. It's just that--a failure. The only ones benefiting are food manufacturers and diet quacks writing books pushing this idea.
micmac12000 1 month ago
Wow, once again Roth is extremely rude and refuses to let others talk, because she knows her rhetoric will be disproved. She also repeatedly belittles other persons in the conversation with her snide and sarcastic attitude and comments. Claiming that the one person for example, "No one knows what you're talking about anymore". I think she's quite the one who's rambling on. How annoying. I'd like to hear other, more informed points.
micmac12000 1 month ago
Interesting topic, although I was distracted by the attractive redheaded host also.
micmac12000 1 month ago
Tax fat people, not the food. We already tax cigarettes. A study following almost 50,000 people showed that being overweight was as unhealthy as smoking 1/2 pack per day.
And btw. Fluoride is a good thing to add to water. Just like Iodine is a good thing to add to salt. I'm not sure the basis of your reasoning. My ideas were learned in medical school.
LtKlepto 2 months ago
Meme didn't answer the question about low people...Meme is not low income so like the other man said..you must meet people where they are...I would like meme to be able life on less then 5 dollars a day..which is what Food stamps break down into...a bag of apples cost more then a box of snack cakes.....and food banks will have more can goods.. then fresh fruits and vegetables...
isleofmehr 2 months ago
The human race is center around Food....all you need to do is find balance with everything in life..when we label..we stray from the mission and try to put people in a box...we do need to improve the quality of food and make healthy food accessible to everyone..and don't eat when you are hunger..you body will crave it own shape...but we are not going to be skinny..and size does not equal health..because we are all going to die..but we don't have to suffer while we are living.
isleofmehr 2 months ago
So, are athletes exempt? Trust me, not all of them eat like birds...some do have to consume high calorie/fat-loaded/sugar-infested substances because it supplies max' quick absorption energy in low quantities. It's just a way for a not-so-benevolent gov't to 'parent' people and likely misuse revenue at their pleasure.
Fantageous 2 months ago
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andrewalsterda2 2 months ago
Meme has helped me to lose weight, period.
SpongyOLlama 2 months ago
If you want healthcare you have to pay for it! Either through insurance or by taxes, there is nothing for free in this world, besides lies from the mouths of politicians.
darmader 2 months ago
@darmader you can experience my free experimental cooking for free.
rintintin7529 2 months ago
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I'd rather move to the usa or canada and be fed GMO like a rabbit. Anyway, as long as you give away the right to decide over your own life "by vote" to any man you are an idiot. That right used to be yours.
darmader 2 months ago
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What a fucking joke.
TheBigCheezeHipster 2 months ago
Philip wins!
77LionTree 2 months ago
There's a tax on cigarettes and we can see now that nobody smokes anymore..............
ShadesofScorpius 2 months ago
This was a really strange debate. All three guests had a solid point atleast once during the overly-long discussion, but it got completely LOST amid all the crazy personal insults.
The guy that was pro-butter was just weird, but the guy attacking 'mimi' was nutty! What was his deal? Just doesn't like thin women?
What a messed up debate! Crosstalk, better guest vetting next time - this was plain embarrassing.
ShadesofScorpius 2 months ago
who picks the guests for this show? this debate could have been so much better...
russianpaul77 2 months ago 2
this cross talk is always talk of political or financial news. but today's topic is fat. I am feeling today news is fresh.
flowewritharoma 2 months ago
@101johngalt YES. You have no idea how annoying it is when I see 'low fat' everywhere and what I need, literally, just to stay at a healthy weight is heavy foods for the same reason. The worst flaw of this tax, and Robert made (or at least tried to make) this point, is that it assumes all people are in the same position, and eat 'fatty' foods for the same reason (or lack of one) which is ignorant and factually wrong.
YourMumTastesLikeRat 3 months ago
fuck..communist denmark
chadberry75 3 months ago
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“If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny.” - Thomas Jefferson Read Thomas Paine's Common Sense. Government has more than overstepped their bounds.
IAmJasonThomas 3 months ago
FAT TAX AX!
edisonoside 3 months ago
human cattle need to get more slender, their slaughter weight consist of too much fat.. moooooo
androgenix 3 months ago
what a little cunt of a host, i dont even have to listen to the arguements being made and still realize that the black guy is being completely cut out of the arguement, to the point where he has to start yelling over the others to get a say in.
blightee 3 months ago
sumo tax ahahaha
12valvepower1 3 months ago
higher taxes for the rich
12valvepower1 3 months ago
i weigh well over 200 lbs and 6 foot tall. very strong. and surprisingly agile.
12valvepower1 3 months ago
pay a tax for being fat. i find that fascinating
12valvepower1 3 months ago
Another gimick from the Elite to make money off the Poor. The only ones that need to be taxed are the Elite for their FAT WALLETS. 90% tax on the Elite and Corporations.
cosmic10101010 3 months ago
What a gruesome pig that ugly young woman is. She's got a fat ass future ahead of her & is running scared. By 40 she'll have an eating disorder if she doesn't already. That's what happens to ppl from fat families who are so prejudiced against their own.
DforDIckhead2100 3 months ago
People should have access to all of the information regarding unhealthy foods. This would enable them to make rational decisions about what they are going to eat. Then, once you've done that, if they still want to eat unhealthy foods...let them!! The only responsibility we have is providing the information. Once we've done that, the responsibility to make good choices is all on the consumer, and if they fail to do that, so what? It's their problem...
The3rdPlateau 3 months ago
What if a person WANTS to eat fatty foods? If people are denied that right from prior to the moment they are born, that is STEALING that right from them without their consent...without the ABILITY to get their consent. It is not morally acceptable to be making decisions for unborn babies, decisions which they should be allowed to make (in life) on their own...that is ridiculous. Get that woman off of your program!
The3rdPlateau 3 months ago
Also, that woman in New York isn't stupid, but she's very rude. She's very condescending. She fails to acknowledge the moral failure of policies which try to mandate what people can or cannot consume...sure, people should be encouraged not to do unhealthy things...but not with monetary incentives, like making unhealthier things more expensive, nor making them illegal. The guy from LA is right, she lacks compassion...honestly, she's kind of a bitch.
The3rdPlateau 3 months ago
Consuming things which are unhealthy is, and should be, a right; how I deal with my health is MY decision, and I should be the sole an exclusive party to regulate it. Just because something is unhealthy does not mean government needs to step in; health is a private matter. If people want to consume something which harms their health, that should be THEIR decision and no one else should play a role in that decision, aside from informing the consumer, when asked to do so by the consumer.
The3rdPlateau 3 months ago
Government should not be allowed to mandate what we can and cannot consume. Just like taxing people who are obese, adding extra taxes for unhealthy foods is unethical, controversial, and should be avoided (the same goes for smoking- it doesn't matter whether or not it has an effect on consumption, it's WRONG. it's UNETHICAL. it's IMMORAL. it's UNJUSTIFIED. Cigarettes are bad for you, so are fatty foods...however, government has no place to prohibit the people from consuming either)
The3rdPlateau 3 months ago
Still, am I the only one noticing a trend here?
Instead of making healthy alternatives more available by lowering the prices, ppl always raise the prices of what is considered unhealthy.
I've never seen this work (with anything at all) and I don't think I ever will...
Seymour13 3 months ago
Fat tax?, fuck that.
They're completely missing the point: PERSONAL CHOICE, end of fucking discussion.
Why do you think that ppl in the lower class eat unhealthy food more often?, because healthy food is usually MORE expensive.
Want healthy people?, make healthy food cheap as fuck (or just free), problem solved because then ppl aren't influenced by the price tag and they can just choose what they WANT to eat.
Besides, IMHO alot of "healthy" food usually tastes like shit, might wanna fix that ;).
Seymour13 3 months ago
well thats the thing, they claim that cigarette smoking has declined because of the tax, but whenever i go to a hockey game at intermission there are HUNDREDS of people outside smoking, many of which go to indian reserves and buy their generic brand which the government doesnt have knowledge of purchase therefore in their ignorant or deceitful, you decide, methods of statistics they claim smoking has gone down
rudesskeys 3 months ago
taxing people with bad genes is sad and wrong, its not food but the people
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chadberry75 3 months ago
The intro claimed that taxing cigarettes reduced consumption. Perhaps the tax hindered people starting (good!), but along the Canadian border cigarette smuggling is a big issue. The higher price has driven cheap cigarettes underground.
So the people who smoke wont necessarily stop because of a tax.
Subsidize the raw foods and educate!!
I think Mimi is right that special interests want people 'fat and happy' so they'll continue to be 'useless eaters'.
ShadesofScorpius 3 months ago
God that bitch needs a slap.
YouAreNotFree1 3 months ago
that was fucking pathetic...
devinthrash 3 months ago
just rise the tax on macdonalds that a good idear the food is shit any way
the profits go to the same people that get all the tax tax macdonalds
5L1D3R513 3 months ago
tax is bull shit
stop paying tax fuck tax its all bull shit
5L1D3R513 3 months ago
Subsidies Fruit and Vegatables.
Eminem117Nas 3 months ago
Calvinism is always some religious languages in taxation policies so no one can ask questions.
beancube2010 3 months ago
this is not about health fuck a tax wtf tax on cake and ice cream what about people who enjoy and dont get fat fuck a tax like that wake up !
ls1tome36 3 months ago
How about the goddamn farm subsidies for corn and soy? Why doesn't the government eliminate those?
Wait, we all know the answer to that question.
TheReapersSon 3 months ago
Yeah!!! High-Fructose Corn Syrup! Flouride! Pump that shit into the system. Awesome!!!
TheReapersSon 3 months ago
SURE drink that water...water with FLUORIDE is NOT HEALTHY.... Prozac 90% Fluoride
RELAX AMERICA.....SLEEEEEEEEEEEEP...or see what Monsanto is up to with seeds, farmers arrested for eating-sharing HEALTHY FOOD! We already have FOOD POLICE!
VIVANOVACHICAGO 3 months ago 8
@VIVANOVACHICAGO Most water has flouride in it naturally, and many areas have over medically recommended levels of natural flouride in it, namely the Western US. People have been drinking it for eons. You don't become sleepy from flouride. It is used in medications and toxins because it has little effort in forming chemical bonds and is usually used as a binder. You can't generalize the toxicity of flouride due to it's ability to form many different bonds many of them non-toxic.
Lemonz1989 2 months ago
@Lemonz1989 Very interesting, & happy you made note of the extra fluoride being introduced to water supplies. Notice recently that many areas are removing it from their drinking supply via vote. That aside, I'm sorry you thought I meant Fluoride will induce sleep, I was referring to " They Live - We Sleep". A MUST MOVIE! Be good to yourself & others - we just may dance. ^_^
VIVANOVACHICAGO 2 months ago
@VIVANOVACHICAGO Yes, I'm quite torn on the issue of adding flouride to the water supply. There are documented differences in tooth decay between people living in areas with flouride in the water and without (naturally or not). But I'm sort of stuck at the ethical issue of "forcefully" medicating entire populations (possibly) against their will. But the levels put in water by officials is not dangerous to humans. :)
Ah, sorry about the misunderstanding. :)
Lemonz1989 2 months ago
@VIVANOVACHICAGO There are filters now for water that take out flouride and companies that sell water that is flouride free if you dont agree. So theres no excuse to not drink water. Also their is organic food companies out there and you can make your own(Grow your own plants, make your own drinks, etc).
EbonySings4u 1 month ago
Find something NOT GMO.. Govt.. does NOT want you well!!!
VIVANOVACHICAGO 3 months ago
These people are the worst fucking debaters I've ever seen. They should have invited someone who understands what it means to be taxed and the affected demographic instead of these fucking retards.
lolofdoom 3 months ago
@LegendCorridor *Facepalm*. Its cause high calories and sometimes a thing called family genes. So by your logic you would call american football players like the Defensive and offensive lineman lazy due to their weight or even fowards in Rugby such as the props that even though they have to keep to diets to be fit.
Eminem117Nas 3 months ago
omg... these people are fucking terrible....
lolofdoom 3 months ago
Cuz we do need*
lilsanchez19 3 months ago
What's right* srry there's typos
lilsanchez19 3 months ago
This is whats wrong now everybody listen...there is too much debating over common sense and someone needs to just have the fuking balls and do what's instead of trying to do what's right without hurting others..sorry for cussing..
Tax the fuk out tobacco alcohol and a little on junk food but we do need sweets like the moron from England was saying
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DiagramInsane31 3 months ago
@Whatistheissue What a gay, Jewish nigger you are.
Hey moron, I said Jews should pay more taxes, get a clue.
Blacks commit 7x more violent crimes in America and interracial rape is nearly all black on white. Blacks also disproportionately benefit from welfare, yet are the most obese people. They're all kinds of fucked up.
jackburton2009 3 months ago
@LegendCorridor You're completely ignorant. Laziness has nothing to do with being fat just from the simple fact that it's much easier to consume high calories than it is to burn them off unless you're an extreme athlete exercising 6-8 hours a day.
The problem is we didn't evolve eating this many calories, for most of our evolution we were in a situation of near starvation, always foraging or hunting. Now food is overly abundant and our bodies can't handle it.
jackburton2009 3 months ago
the black dood reminds me of mike tyson's brother
godseyeview 3 months ago
that chick is hot but dumb as shit
godseyeview 3 months ago
@godseyeview That bitch is ugly as fuck with those fishlips, and dumb as shit.
1980albatros 3 months ago in playlist god damnit
There's that fucking bitchface whore that was on Penn & Teller's Bullshit. I'd love to backhand that smug deadshit. Tax is theft, simple as that.
murf69 3 months ago
Sure!
And fat people must pay higher rate called "Fat Healthcare insurance," And pay higher airfare called "Fat Seat." Obese is such heavy weight load should be charged more since luggage is charged by the weight.
overseachininadoll 3 months ago
MiMI is right. Obese people are getting to that point because they are uneducatable. They should be sent to boot came or called FAt jail to work off starve off those fat.s
overseachininadoll 3 months ago
@overseachininadoll The problem with this solution is that it taxes everyone, not just fat people. It's really just a way to screw the taxpayer out of more money with some lame justification of health. In effect all this does is just allow the more wealthy to be fat.
jackburton2009 3 months ago
@LegendCorridor what are you taking about?
tpersad 3 months ago
It comes down to more of the same, Bigger Government!
tpersad 3 months ago
Mr. Ferguson had the made the best points, very strong speaker
zachboi13 3 months ago
white devil
plasticpatch1 3 months ago
Dont tax my Gyro !
ZeusTelemaxos 3 months ago
But they say "it's the general welfare clause"
but the general population doesn't have diabetes
This tax will promote physical health at the expense of your wallet's health
zachboi13 3 months ago
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Black guy is dead wrong. Talking a bunch of nonsense. I've lost considerable weight and diet was all that I had to change. Didn't have to exercise anymore or do anything else other than curb the amount of calories and saturated fat I took in. Most people get overwhelmed by all this crap that's telling them they have to be a marathon runner to be skinny or live off of salads and green crap.
Luigi84289 3 months ago
black guy's right
milleniumfreako 3 months ago
Glad they're finally listening to genius.
FinancialSP 3 months ago
When the dollar crashes, food prices will be higher and hence it will become a forced diet. I don't want to see fatties lining up for soup. Take a look at starving Africans.
novicemilk 3 months ago
@novicemilk Can you say anything that's not hyperbole?
ChicagoProdigy 3 months ago
The women just states the obvious with a few facts.
regz321 3 months ago
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God the woman from New York is a full retard. So fucking loud.
TheDrunkMunk 3 months ago
lot a big folks hate this video.
lighttree2012 3 months ago
well just make a sugar tax, since sugar is the biggest culprit in obesity. (look for video bitter truth about sugar). that way, the manufacturers of processed foods will take out all that high fructose corn syrup. I'm sick of taxes. I think oyu guys should pay an oxygen tax and stop breathing my air!!
Plum369 3 months ago
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@Plum369 You make a good point. Corn Syrup is terrible for the body it makes you more hungry, increases consumption. That is why Mcdonald's and all fast food places push soft drinks with their food so you don't get full and buy more. I only drink sugar soda when I go for one now and then.
Luigi84289 3 months ago
The woman is an idiot but the two others are sensible.
Pasqualmie 3 months ago
Well,.. The U.S. Gov is causing inflation from mass money printing, so food will skyrocket without a fat tax. and believe me, that will cause people to eat less.
In reality, Gov needs to stop subsidizing corn and big agro etc. that would help increase the cost of junk food without directly taxing the public. Government is what needs more control not the public. Just look at or deficit.
Autojones 3 months ago
@Whatistheissue I agree, Jews should pay kosher taxes and blacks should pay a crime tax because they commit more crime and thus are a strain on the resources of government.
jackburton2009 3 months ago
They wouldn't do this in America, why? Because obesity is far higher among Latinos and blacks, so it would be deemed "racist."
jackburton2009 3 months ago
This black guy really is an asshole.
HyperHorse 3 months ago
The ugly witch w/the big mouth will be a big fat ass later in life. It's easy for her to talk about it now. Who can't be thin at her age? Shit, she's not even thin. But she sure is one ugly person.
AllianceOfJerkOffs 3 months ago
Simple solution: fat person, eat less. And no table sugar (sodas, candy, cakes). No artificial sweeteners.
starlitopensky1 3 months ago
How about a health subsidy?
KevDan67 3 months ago
He encouraged jumping in. And barking dogs emerged.
hotemil 3 months ago
This is frankly unbelievable! Some people are struggling to afford to eat, And here they are talking about putting Tax on food.
Only afew weeks ago a british couple committed suicide due to not been able to afford food, Not to mention the millions of kids living in starvation around the world, That has gone on so long its almost become the status quo, And here we are having an obesity ''epidemic''! (You could'nt make it up.)
GBHExpression 3 months ago
so basically tax you for eating something some people love to eat? fuck off. i LOVE to have a bic mac once a month, but apparently i deserve to be punished for it. HEY GOVERNMENT!!! I HAD MCNUGGETS FOR LUNCH TODAY, IM HOLDING YOUR $1 BILL IN MY ASS. COME ARREST ME FOR TAX EVASION TOO!!!
USAFCAPN73 3 months ago
Were is meme's brain? I mean relly! relly! relly!? Shut up! No one tells me what to eat!!!!!! Common since is all a person needs.
gokusondbz 3 months ago
If it's going to happen, it would help if the tax raised went to lowering the price of healthy food. Just giving the money to an education bureau or the medical industry would be a waste.
Zaphod23 3 months ago
Americans are addicted to synthetic food. Try organic for a month, skipping meats, sugars and dairy and you'll see that you have been put in shackles. Your grandparents had no idea what was going on. They allowed these organizations to have full control of their lives and blindly supported such controls with their American egos. While you let them blame you for being fat, having cancer, autism, add and all disease, know that it's not your fault, but you NEED to change NOW or it's on you. peace
drone8888 3 months ago
@phillyb644924 u got that right. I hate that dikey troll an the t.s.a! A bunch of peudofile egotistical retards.
jeremiahch12 3 months ago
People and I'm thinking of little kids are going to go Hungry over someone's ignorance ... everyone tries to lose wieght to one person that comes easy and others its a life long struggle .... Some people have a thyroid or are diabetic they can't control it with just diet alone
tonyvac25 3 months ago
MEME is fucking retarded.
Hafazeh 3 months ago
Anyone got a prob with my post take your pannies off and give them back to the girls
jeremiahch12 3 months ago
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Someone hired the lady to instigate an argument ... Its genetic everyone is different and starving yourself over exerting yourself to lose 5 pounds works for young person with a high Motabolism ... Basic common sense tells you cutting down on your calerie and fat intake will make you lose wieght and we found the complete opposite ... the art of dieting has become a lost cause
tonyvac25 3 months ago
@tonyvac25 Mimee you don't know what your talking about .... New York has a basic Philosophy of C. Y. A. instead of CYA get the facts and experimental metical historical statistics
tonyvac25 3 months ago
What a stupid bitch ( meme) this is why u dont want women in power they screw it all up ex. Hillary clinton, janet napalitono
jeremiahch12 3 months ago
@jeremiahch12 JANET RENO LOL
PHILLYB644924 3 months ago
Nobody mentioned about stopping the food producers messing with food and adding GMO corn and soia syrups? Meaby tax the corporations which make the junk food.
TheArtmik 3 months ago 2
OMg I can not believe Mimi said all those things..
She is totally WRONG when it comes to taxing " the bad food" but even worst to give all attention to only a small portion of the population..
What Men do not have the right to live or older people change?
I am a proof by losing 72 lbs and coming down from a size 16 to a 4 following the methodology Robert Ferguson talks about.
I have not stopped eating the food I love and I am not on a diet.
MIMI needs to do some real research before talking
TheSexyangelinlove 3 months ago
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tonyvac25 3 months ago
Why not tax sugary foods which actually contribute to obesity unlike saturated fats?
taoninja 3 months ago
The english guy is right!!! Me and many other people are now on a high saturated fat, low carb diet and it WORKS!! CRAZY to TAX such important nutriënt.
jochem86 3 months ago
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samsun1975 3 months ago
lol
CJBombaYe 3 months ago
RT is laying down some serious journalism with this roundtable discussion regarding a tax on high calorie food products. Wait, who are the fattest people in the world? That's right, Americans and the British! I say to hell with the tax, what the world needs is for Putin and Medvedev to go down to their old rotting Soviet weapons cache and break out the nuclear warheads. Then they can get a team of Mongolian immigrants to paint them like twinkies and fire them into the heartland. Problem solved!
DefenceSpeech 3 months ago
I always buy things from the dollar menu, my fat friends always buy the more expensive fast food items. Fattys don't care about costs, they just wanna chow down.
Frances3654 3 months ago
@Frances3654 What they should do is get Jay-Z to write a new club song called, "Get Your Big Mac On" and everyone will think that being fat and eating McDonald's all day is cool. The economy will recover within weeks and then RT will have to start producing better propaganda videos to get through all the layers of lard built up in the brains of Americans.
DefenceSpeech 3 months ago
And the government wants to classify pizza as a vegetable so the schools can serve it to our kids. Makes as much sense as this video does!
caldrihc 3 months ago
May i look one again on this vid - it was so fun :-)))))
Vidas666 3 months ago
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DrWho2008t101 3 months ago
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Why tax people tax the companies who make the fatty food companies.
or
get rid of those foods ...
why did gov introduce these diets in the first place?
cornerslice 3 months ago
Why tax people tax the companies who make the fatty foods in first place.
or
get rid of those foods ...
why did gov introduce these diets in the first place?
cornerslice 3 months ago
If her whole family is fat why doesn't she take care of her own family and leave mine alone? She wants to tax my butter, she can kiss my ass.
cchessmaster 3 months ago
No at nani government.
Government has the gift of corrupting everything it touches.
Look at the college system, look at the farming system. The social security is broken, the offence expending is of the charts, they cut NASA's budget...
How can anyone even consider to give more power to the government?? Do they even have a right side brain? did someone removed it to deprive these poor people of any critical thinking skills?
The horror the ignorance...
Ramiromasters 3 months ago
the men are against the fat tax. love that :)
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As much as Mimi is a obnoxious cunt, she's right. Fat people have to "diet."
Meaning they didn't eat right and exercise, so now they have to lose weight. Our diet is what we eat on a regular basis. People can't be lazy, eat whatever, and expect to be healthy. IMO, this sound should change its format or be called the "the argument show: loudest/rudest person is heard the most."
zeus7623 3 months ago
The problem Meme, is that they will take your militant attitude and use it to justify enforcing rules on foods that have the highest profit margin.
SuperQUL 3 months ago
lol only the British guy has facts everyone else is bullshit and sales.
hitadjp 3 months ago 2
Meme would make a great dictator.... how stupid does she think we are?
SuperQUL 3 months ago
I suppose she thinks laughing makes her sound smart. Mainly she comes off as arrogant and would make the average person do the opposite of what she says out of spite. Its not her right or anyone elses to tell me or my family what to eat. Im healthy, in shape, and eat whatever the hell i want because I chose to.
TheJosephPrice 3 months ago
The black man wants to talk about health but his teeths are unhealthy.
zigyzigy13 3 months ago
The black man is very slow in the mind. Low IQ perhaps.
zigyzigy13 3 months ago
@zigyzigy13 you ment the white retard, who can't construct or finish a sentence and a thought ...!
mdaaaa1211 3 months ago
I only eat the products free of sugar and full of the aspartame anyway, so it won't affect me I think maybe so I don't really know... whats the question???
TREACLE97 3 months ago
how i hate vegetarians!
zaurtrien 3 months ago
@zaurtrien but most vegetarians are fat..
chadberry75 3 months ago
I'm sorry, but I find that woman's laugh insufferable.
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a FAT TAX? are you kidding me, please, PLEASE explain to me how taxing already expensive food will somehow NOT make preservative loaded, fatty, sodium, cheap fast food look even MORE appealing to people. this annoying double standard woman actually twice said 'im responsible about what i eat.' problem solved! how about health insurance is charged like my life insurance? make the person whos overweight, smokes and doesnt take care of themselves pay more than me, not the same, for health insurance
rudesskeys 3 months ago
@rudesskeys Amen.
Plum369 3 months ago
A fat tax ? The king of Bahrain will lose his fortune at paying fat tax. LOL !
Quierotortilla 3 months ago
peter and meme are so cute lol
SubtleVibez 3 months ago
last thing... we shouldn't depend on the gov to tell us how to take care of ourselves. You shouldn;t sacrifice freedoms for security (the security from getting fat). Leave things be, just make healthy foods cheaper. If people are too dumb/lazy to take care of themselves... fuck 'em. Life is survival of the fittest after all, you shouldn't hold someones hand through life.
ivancito7790 3 months ago
also, why is the American in these Cross Talks ALWAYS a fucking retard
ivancito7790 3 months ago
Meme needs a refresher course of kindergarten. Communication is as much about listening as speaking. Her shrieking throughout the entire program made communication impossible. Another wasted 30 minutes.
mahdatonta 3 months ago
What a bunch of retards speaking here, made it till 6:00 .
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RockTheOcean4me 3 months ago
They shouldn't tax ANY foods, on the contrary, what they SHOULD do is to make healthy natural foods cheaper and more available. If you compare the ratio of boxed and canned shit to natural foods in the supermarket, you will see a huge difference between not just the quantity, and availability, but also the price. Taxing food is just a disaster waiting to happen. If your gonna tax anyone, you should tax the fat people. They are the ones the already fucked up. Thats the only FAT TAX I support.
ivancito7790 3 months ago
This is just a way to hide the fact that food all across the globe will be way more expensive. And a way to recover losses for this fact. If they really wanted to truly help then the companies and corporations that make all this garbage food should be regulated, not the people that can only afford these types of food.
W4rD0g72 3 months ago
obesity is cause by refined foods highly refined foods, not "fat"
Quindal 3 months ago
22:00 thats why nuts and fish are some of the healthiest foods.. many fats and oils are healthy, I can't belive that woman is shouting over him fats make you fat.. maby she was one of the people that desided that pizza should be calssed as a vegetable in the us..
NoFukinNamesLeft 3 months ago
Read The China Study. The HEALTHIEST people on earth are the ones with the lowest fat intake. Compare the western diet to the diet in asia - rice makes people more healthy and slim than pork fat and oil.
Rad1ka1 3 months ago
Meme looks like a Japanese cartoon .
HK379 3 months ago
Look up Dr. McDougall on youtube to find out more about fat and health.
Rad1ka1 3 months ago
14:00 thats what its about... A tax would make good foods which are already expensive even more so like cheese. Also the tax could lead to more artifical sugars which are far far worse..
NoFukinNamesLeft 3 months ago
These people are all fucking idiots. They don't even know enough about diet to take these types of measures. The average asshole thinks that fat can make you fat, when it can't, and that beef is bad for your heart, when in fact beef is better for you than salmon...
Elenkhos 3 months ago
@Elenkhos
Wait, you're saying eating fat doesn't make you fat? Alright, smartass, go eat a few bars of butter every meal. Tell me how things are in a few weeks.
berkshireee 3 months ago
@berkshireee Dur...dur...dur If you knew anything about endocrinology you would not have made this statement, go to school learn some fucking bio chemistry, your body cannot process fat into fat, it can only process starch and proteins into fat... herp a derp
Elenkhos 3 months ago
Drugs are expensive and that doesn't prevent people from buying it, taxation is just slavery, nothing more, nothing less.
edersonh8me 3 months ago 2
Your guest in Manchester is absolutely correct about fat being necessary to create proper brain function etc.
MadXMax187 3 months ago
That lady was soooo freaking annoying. She just laughs at everyone who has a different opinion to hers. She sounds like O'reilly, except she mocks people istead of flat out overshouting them. Extremely rude, neverthless. And that guy is right, they have taken out ALL fat from food, and people's brains are starved, which is why people don't function too well around this country.
And I have a feeling that lady's brain is starved too, all she can do is laugh and repeat her bullet points.
gerasimimumu7 3 months ago 9
That blonde is retarded
MadXMax187 3 months ago
I agree with Rober, I use to be fat. Now I'm back to normal beacouse i know what and not to eat. This Fat Fax is all about the Gov getting money -.-, they don't give a flying fuck about our health.
noelito01 3 months ago
This is a perfectly good example of why I would be happier in a stateless society, no tax and dumb blondes like her because they would be weeded out LOL. I know its wrong to have this Darwinian outlook on society, but when you see the level of stupidity and assfuckery that goes on in America I think you would share my views. This woman is SMART by American standards, my family is poor as fuck and the fat tax would destroy us. Tobacco tax is already killing me! I don't want to live forever!!
MadXMax187 3 months ago
The reason people eat shit food is because they're taxed too much, and don't have the time or money to eat properly.
lawes84 3 months ago
Meme Roth should shut her god damm motuh
o13starsnstripes 3 months ago