If u have negative to say, please shut the fuck up and respect the shaman and what they have made us. Remember, they are what brought us here and don't forget that, while our grandparents did this every night so the sprints would protect us. To the church guy that was talking about spending to much money on these sprirtual things.
U might want to look around before u talk because church's need money to pay for there buildings and what not and it surely comes out of your pockets. If I'm correct
I am a christian and I believe that wether if you believe in shamanism or god there is no wrong way. Shamanism is not worshiping the devil it's about worshiping the spirit of the ancestors who is gone before us. We live in america where we can chose to worship and practice our beliefs so why disrespect a different beliefs differ from christianity. I say if it helps you to live well then go for it and if worshiping god helps your way of life then I say amen.
If you are educated people, you wouldn't be here criticizing upon one another but rather respecting one another's belief. This Christian V.S. Shaman/ American V.S. Asian country thing? Grow up people!!
Everyone has there own beliefs so you dont need to try in turn everyone into church ppl
Btw "u dont know what your talking about. Spending a junkload of money on Shaman Ritual stuff. Unlike your Shamanism. Its an old guy who believes he is in the Spirit World. . Its just a load of crap. And your asking a demon to go away? Shamanism is a waste of time." Is veryy offensive ! I kno for a fact if one of us shamans commented on your church things your ass would get offensive. Soo stfu!
I love when the commentator keeps saying, "In Asian Countries". This is not Asia. The American Landscape has been decimated by frozen religions from other Soils..the Middle East (bible, torah, quaran) and now the US has to deal with the new Fashion Religions (buddhism and hinduism). If you are a Real Shaman you "see" that the Soil of the New World has no knowledge of Asia or the Middle East. This is just Franchising of Spirit to continue the Duality and Wars of Nonsense.
that church dude who is talkin shit is stupid ass fuck hes believing in a dude he aint never met b4 OR KNOW OF (GOD/JESUES DONT NO HOW TO SPELL ThAT nAME)he should no that HIS ancester were doin these kinds of ritual b4 so wtf is he takin shit about ill rip that bible apart bunch of non sence ITS THE CAUSE OF ALL CHAOS ...church is a waste of money
@dgfhghtgh lol, u dont know what your talking about. Spending a junkload of money on Shaman Ritual stuff. We never met God, but we have faith, Unlike your Shamanism. Its an old guy who believes he is in the Spirit World. My cousins grandpas is a Shaman. Trusted by a large scale of families. Hes told us that he only pretends to go into a trance. Its just a load of crap. And your asking a demon to go away? When you can ask an Angel to Banish it. Shamanism is a waste of time.
you dumb bitch.,, my mom is shaman and this shit is fucken fake!!! just like you bitch. ill take the bible and stick it right up your ass fagget. you want to talk shit im from MN come and say that...your all talk fagg.
you shut up, this shit is so fucken fake. who the fuck does this. disgrace to all HMONG SHAMAN.. that bastar should deal with all TUNELS in the USA. and why the fuck is he wearing a suit. I FEEL SO DUMB WATCHING THIS..... NAIMTXIV YOU FUCKEN DUMB BITCH.,
@kmoua17 man shut up...jus becuzz ur church shit work doesnt mean u have to dis on shaman people...frickin loser... scared go to church bitch...oh wait u already is going to church...jus becuzz they killed the duck and chicken doesnt mean that its a sin...fucken idiot...im sure they used a church guy and his frickin bible and holy water dont work so they called a real expert, a shaman and it worked so dont get fucken jealous...
Why the hell are people still arguing about the past? I mean it's good to be knowledged, but to use it in an arguement what's the point in that ? You're more of an ass than a smart person! Anyways we're all here living the lives so many other want, so just enjoy life!
Anyways,while ya'll talking bout General Vang Pao,Ima change the subject! ^_^ OKay well hey, look, its my amazing Grandpa!!! Sua Lee Cha.. I love my Grandpa !! =]
this is amazing. i never even knew this. im proud our own hmong shaman were able to have the spirits rest in peace. its sad though the subway wat built under the
cemetary. but since its already there, cant do anything about it. proud to be hmong!!
first of all the bad guys were not the vietnam ppl it was the amercan ppl that was the bad ppl. do some research ppl and u will find the true facts US is hiding
@hlubtiagproduction eewww that is just nasty kids please don't argue about nonesense please, there is no need for profanity because pao is the bomb he is cool
To all those hater against Vang Pao. You think that talking shit about your own races leader would make other races proud of you? NO, i dont think so. The more you talking shit, the more other races will desrespecting hmong people. and that including your fucken ass too. No wonder we dont have a country to live. Because there's some hmong hater like you out there. WILLING TO KILL HIS OR HER OWN LEADER TO ACCEPT THE OFFER MADE BY THE ENEMY.
Wo this vidoe i was there when it happen this is true it happen to my sister and me it was scary i can't believe i actually saw things that i post to not to see but i was strong not to be scary at all.
hey my dad a shaman to other peoples ask him to the same thing like every other week.i ask why you keep offering your 3hade wolf but never got the answer for it
yo this video is'nt about GVP... it's about a freaking shaman exorcising a spirit in a subway! oh and don't hate the americans, not all of them are asswipes to us, hate only breeds more hate. & love once in an eterniaty.Shaman power!
it's beautiful that Hmong people are being included in the very fabric of America. after six generations of being in exile from our original home we have found a place to call home.
To all people who are talking about Vang Pao..you guys don't really know much..he did not want to conquer Laos..he only fight to bring us here..Americans say..win or lose..we will take you to USA..that why he fought..without him you will not be here..you should be thankful..and stop hating..
He cared for his own ass. He doesn't even know you exist. One question: Did he give you a monthly stipend to live off of, much less paid your way through school? I assume you went to school, right?
@leenkeng1 I disagree with him being the commander giving order to murder innocent hmong life base on lies from his lower-in-command. But I don't hate him, I only believe in god sending this man to hell as his punishment. What I'm saying is VP shouldn't sacrifice people's life to save others, he should have sacrificed himself, which he didn't. This guy is no hero. All he did was make the decision, my gramps are the hero, they did all the hard work to get me here. Praise to my gramps!
@leenkeng1 The only ones who lost a family members was the one who was order by him to go to the trenches. Vang Pao did not pay for my families plane ticket to America. I lost my only uncle in the Secret War. I will never see my only uncle, only hear stories about him. Vang Pao never send his blood family members into the front line he only send other people. Like my 12 year old uncle to be sacrifice. He is the father to us and i agree on that, but hes not what everyone think he is.
@leenkeng1 I agree with you. They don't understand history, matter of fact they don't even know themselves any more. They are what the Whites call lost sheep.
anyway... vang pao is vang pao, a person. if he is so "bad" and "horrible," then become your own person and do better. wait, can you? no... you want to go over to your gf's house and hope you get some chaka-chaka..... tsk tsk tsk... then go home, get on the computer and criticize vang pao...
well i don't know why all u ppl are arguing about vang pao down there... this vid is about the city accepting, respecting, and participating, respectfully, the hmong culture and opinion... this is a good step for the city. appreciate this, because it could have been reported way differently -- with criticism, angry or foul words, etc...
Not to dis vang pao but after doing some research, Vang Pao wanted to conquer Laos for the hmong people. Therefore we went to war and ended losing and not having a land to call our own.
subway under a graveyard right? so how is the white ghost gonna understand hmong language? i pretty sure about 95% of those thats been bury there never even herd the word hmong before. hahahaha this shit makes me laugh. by the hows the subway doing now?
in the hmong belief, spirits can understand one another. it's ignorant for you to say that. it's wrong to built a subway underneath the graveyard. Just like it's prohibited to built homes on top of a land once a lake and it's also prohibited to built homes on top of graves.
I'll take my sub on Whole Wheat, BMT combo, pepper jack cheese, all the veggies, light on the Chipotle dressing, sprinkle some salt and pepper, and...oh yeah, extra olives please.
wheres da sticky purple rice yeaaaah sticky rice with chicken, pork, sausage, egg roll, pepper, laab wit lettuce yeah dats gooooood, but at least da duck showed up and where not all gonna get haunted by the spirits and die a horrible death eat up spirits............ HMONG PEOPLE RULE!!!!!!!!
White people paid this Hmoob Shaman to pay the dead people above the subway. Above the subway there's a big cemetery, white people dig underground to make their subway. The souls are unhappy they cause subways to crash at Portland zoo... this is why he's paying them money so they won't haunt no more people.
Aww, Ma-Pa. It appeared you're annoyed. Hey Huggies diapers are on sale. Should I get ChiYou's permission first in order to capture the sales price for bulk boxes?
Is it 'have" or "has"...for a scholar, you failed at the simplest task. Funny.
Xboi, maybe Vang Pao should pay the spirits money. Wait a minute, he can't. His cash is going to the trial lawyers defending his wrinkled ass with that coup attempt, right? Cripes, he's just as messed up as this bonehead hitting the gong and babbling to himself. (sigh)
Someone please tell his shaman hunyuk to clean up his crap and get outta there. Geez, public taxes providing space for him to bang a gong all day? What a tool.
Without vang pao, hmong will still be in America, just look at all southeast asian that didnt fight the war that came here, who fought the war knows nothing about vang pao and was still here.
actually because he got the hmong involved in the US was the reason that we're here... hmong people are very effective when it comes to war but they are not rich people nor are the middle class... they cant afford to come to the US. other asians are wealthy they have their own country they can afford to make it to the US. the american see that we the hmong people cant live in a communist country be anticommunist... it is the least they can do to repay the favor of a true ally.
I don't take away anything from vang pao, but if you know what he really did you will see that if he conquar laso nothing will change. he murder so many HMONG people who refuse to go regardless of their condition. I didn't care if they were the only child or they were sick or have some type of physical problem. he was the one who recruited Hmong kids at the age of 8. Hmon peep believe me the reason why we're here is the hmong who fought and die not vang pao, kno your facts.
No you're wrong my sister. Not to be rude, but ever let those type of statment fool you. without vang pao we will still be here. When Vang Pao left he never came back to rescue the Hmong. In fact he told Hmong to stay and fight the war. His attemtp to overthrow the laotian government wasnt to save the chao fa, he wanted to conquer laos. Trust me I know my facts. I respect GVP. But there so much shit he did that fuck the Hmong community up. Kno your facts ad do your research. Dont get mad at me.
So what you're saying, yasumpussy, is that VP extorted, robbed, lied, and even perhaps killed his own, for the betterment of his (VP) own gains, right?
So here's my question for you? How could you respect someone with such a track record or intentions? You're speaking with a forked tongue here, yasumpuss.
I respect the fact that he became the first hmong general. But he's just like most of the pass Hmong leader who greeds. Who will kill any one that becomes popular or gain popularity in the Hmong community. When GVP became popular Toube wanted to kill him. GVP killed Shoua Lue yang aka the Hmong Prophet because of his popularity. GVP killed the Hmong who refused to go to war regardless of their situation such as they are the only child. You don't have to believe me, just ask your parent.
You see it's these Jesus Christ fucking sinners who causes death among us. Us Hmongs just try to help out and they hate us now because we always have good hearts. What a butcha fucking backstabbing bitches. Just like what they did to us in Vietnam war? Just Like what they're doing to Vang Pao? Just what they doing to these dumbfucking Hmongs who convert who no longer have a brain!!!
everything you said is correct except the vang pao part....the thing is he did that shit on his own so he should man up and take the consequences instead of relying on hmong people to bail his ass out.....
Vang Pao Is A Leader. He Will Always Have His Niggas Backing Him Up No Matter How Wrong He Is. To Me, Gen Vang Pao Is A Gangsta. He Needs To Get Life In Prison. That Nigga Is Gulity Ass Hell! Hahaha
well your opinions are yours and mine are mines but i believe that he is not a gangster or what not.. i just believe that he was at the right place at the right time which caused the Americans to recruit him....I mean anyone could have done the job cause lots of hmong people know their way around the jungle and they would know how to perform guerilla attacks....get what i'm saying.....and yes you are right he was guilty ass hell
Too Bad Gen. Vang Pao Is Going To Court! I'mma Watch It As He Goes through his bullshit! Backstabbing White Boys And There way around the world. Just Like we know how to guerilla attack they know how to backstabb!
ahaha funny. dude he's not gulity. he was set up by the CIA to go and buy weapons. the USA got not prove that he did it on his own. and the Hmong people got prove that they set him up. theyeven talk to that CIA person who came to his house to talk about the wepons, and he is going to help Gen. Vang Pao out. but he was just a backstubb...
the shamans words are usually chinese because that's where their ancestors came from. so if they were to use hmong words today, it will not work. causes the ancestors doesn't understands what the shaman is trying to say so they have to use chinese words.
the reporter said there were a couple of accidents after the rail line was up. i guess by saying blood shed he is saying people could die by the spirits doing.
if you guy are all hmong people talking shit to each other your guys are all simply retarded. this is one reason why "us" hmong people can't stick together.
This is a free country. You can get marry to whomever at whenever you prefer. Getting marry is a huge step into life and you must wait to see if the true companion you desires is the person of your dreams. Sometimes taking that iniciative step may big a huge mistake but at the same time it can be a very well blessings to become wiser because that is when a person would be matured while entering into the marry life world.
dang fo real, my parents were shaman in the life before now, and bad things keep hapening to us, but its all taken care of now, your going to be a important person later on
I dont think it matters if your whole family still practice shamanism, you can still convert to christianity if you really wanted to. I have friends that i went to highschool with back then, convert to christianity. You don't have to marry a christian dude, but if that's the case then i'll be your bachelor #1.. haha. jk.
SouliantDivilat I found this to be confused "my whole family does shaman". Actually shaman is a person (male or female) who can go into the other side of the world and heal people. The Hmong's religion is called animism and shaman is a part of the religion and the Hmong.
or your christian we are all of Hmong blood and i'm sure everyone knows that if they are. i'm christian but i believe that "neeg" was a traditon created by God for Hmong ppl and so i love God and i love the tradition he has given us and i am proud that i a Hmong and will never change....and if your hating shit it out your ass cuz your breath is sure gonna stink!
I agree w/ your statement. It doesn't matter what believe we have, deep inside us we're still Hmong no matter what. I admire our culture, traditions, and heritage. I appreciate our ancestors and still pays my respect to them because they made who we are. However, in the other hand let's try to debate about religion here. It doesn't matter which faith an individual has. What matters is their personality, obedient, and self discipline behaviors. A true christian would not say any harsh words.
yeah i totally agree......unfortunately i'm a christian with a sharp tongue.....and so.....i'm sorry God has given me a blunt mouth that just can't be helped......but yes i also believe that one's moral thinking has to count...it all depends on a person's thinking and their ability to comprehend the meaning of tradition ties.
I see your all still hating on each other. I could care less what you fucks are arguing about. I love "neeg" and I respect my ancestors. I could care less about church. More power to you if you go. Just trying to holler at cupidgirl916! Please shoot me your digits? I'm a nice shamen...
Well if you don't wanna be the next shawomen in your family, then you can be my helper huh? I need a helper to burn the incense and fortunes. Can I get your number?
and dont even say we gunna make some kids lol and i dont like fire so i dont burn shit!!!! lol and you aint gettin my ######## lol but chu funnie boi lol♥
Lite rail lines are effing lame. They mess up traffic and it's too easy for someone who's had a little too much to drink, and a little too much time to feel sorry for themselves, walk out in front of them.
....Actually, wait, no, lite rail lines are kind of cool now that I think about it.
you see, the HMONG actually cares about these kind of things and it would make sense to do something about it. So i guess what you see is a very old tradition which many cannot perform. So...respect the HMONG people
I am a Shaman myself. I love this guy. I wish I had a chance to be on the news. I could care less what people think of my religon. As long as I try to help out, thats all that matters to me and being on t.v. LoLz!
I don't think the vain glory of being on tv is a top priority, at least, not the last time I checked. It was about helping, healing and maintaining balances for the sake of everyone, not 15 minutes of fame
Finally a smart and thoughtful lady who speaks her mind. Forget about the shaman being on t.v and fame. I think I'm in love......I was at the wrong bloodymissb. Can you tell me more? Reply back plz! Can I call you sometime?
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. I'm afraid I don't exchange numbers with strangers though. You can send me a message if you really want to talk.
i hate that people are arguing over beliefs (shamanism vs. christianity). which ever you believe, just let people do what they know is best. it's a belief so just respect it. shamans deal with disturbed spirits, maybe that wont work right? well christians pray, who knows if that works anyway too right?
my point is, stop judging others beliefs. maybe they wont judge you if you dont judge them.
so they called the chinese buddas and they couldnt do shit in that tunnel, so they called the hmong shaman, funny. Lord Chi You the 43rd king of china was hmong and he actually had real horns on his head.
............. well, if you don't know you Hmong history. The Hmong used to have a country or nation. The location was said to be now call "China" in the late 2000 B.C. or so. Anyways, what i'm trying to say is that. The chiness push out the Hmong from the upper region and all of it's power into Laos with their savage desire for power. I really can't say it's true, but the Hmong legend that's been told got to start somewhere.
It makes sense that Hmong people come from China, but they were hated and killed because they rejected the king(s) and the monarchy system. They wanted to be free. Your description of the chinese "savage desire for power" doesn't really depict a clear picture of what happened between the two groups.
...... your right, it's savage desire for LAND. LOL, What ever, i don't really care either way. The main point of what i was trying to say was the Chinese push the Hmong out of their land. I don't know my history much so...... lets leave it like that.
um.. it true that the chinese savage desire for power, because when the chinese found out that the hmong also have a huge kingdom like them they were afraid that one day the hmong ppl will over power them so they decied to destory the hmong kingdom. even though hmong didn't think about fighting the chinese, the chinese try to make the hmong fight each other and take over. but after that all hell break lose and hmong were fear all over china. some went south some sail east to where is now japan.
Great video clip. Thanks for posting. What ever your religion is please do not disrespect others. Hmoob tsis sib hlub hmoob, leej twg tiaj li hlub Hmoob? :) Peace!
lol you want me to get detailed aye? i don't think you will believe me. Here goes.
It's what americans call "white magic" since it is not harming anything, I can see.
I hear about people, sucking blood, you americans call it vampire. But it is black magic, because those people possess spirits that must drink blood. Therefore, if they don't drink people blood, they will drink the owner's blood, and that's why some people go around drinking other people's blood.
yeah i don't either, but i find it interesting x]. my gf's sis in law was saying they should be christians because they lazy to do neng.
But if you christian, you get to go to church once every sunday, which is more work than neng? xD well not really work but ya more "lazy thing and i dont wanna do" than neng?
If u have negative to say, please shut the fuck up and respect the shaman and what they have made us. Remember, they are what brought us here and don't forget that, while our grandparents did this every night so the sprints would protect us. To the church guy that was talking about spending to much money on these sprirtual things.
U might want to look around before u talk because church's need money to pay for there buildings and what not and it surely comes out of your pockets. If I'm correct
08civicSI4dr 2 months ago
I am a christian and I believe that wether if you believe in shamanism or god there is no wrong way. Shamanism is not worshiping the devil it's about worshiping the spirit of the ancestors who is gone before us. We live in america where we can chose to worship and practice our beliefs so why disrespect a different beliefs differ from christianity. I say if it helps you to live well then go for it and if worshiping god helps your way of life then I say amen.
Chefkou 9 months ago 4
If you are educated people, you wouldn't be here criticizing upon one another but rather respecting one another's belief. This Christian V.S. Shaman/ American V.S. Asian country thing? Grow up people!!
laydeh06 9 months ago
i hmong and i proud..
MrHmoobhtt 10 months ago
@YoojLauj
You shouldnt even be here talkin if your a church freaak.
Go to church and learn your "reading " & " Gods"
and dont bring it back to these shaman videos.
JustCha95 10 months ago
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@YoojLauj
Everyone has there own beliefs so you dont need to try in turn everyone into church ppl
Btw "u dont know what your talking about. Spending a junkload of money on Shaman Ritual stuff. Unlike your Shamanism. Its an old guy who believes he is in the Spirit World. . Its just a load of crap. And your asking a demon to go away? Shamanism is a waste of time." Is veryy offensive ! I kno for a fact if one of us shamans commented on your church things your ass would get offensive. Soo stfu!
JustCha95 10 months ago
@Kmoua
MN ppl are F A G S ! Well Kmoua is !
Fucken dumb ass thats my grandpa !
Asswipe ! You dont even kno how close we are !
You wanna talk shit bring it to me if its bouts MY Family !
You dumb ass hoe ! Stupid Fagg!
yOUR ASS shouldnt even be Hmong!
You should be some fucken REDNeck !
You shouldnt even be on here talking shit about others !
Stupid Hmong Guys these days ! I fucken swear !
JustCha95 10 months ago
Kmoua17 For The Win!!!!
YoojLauj 10 months ago
@YoojLauj Even though his way of doing things is a little...lame
YoojLauj 10 months ago
I love when the commentator keeps saying, "In Asian Countries". This is not Asia. The American Landscape has been decimated by frozen religions from other Soils..the Middle East (bible, torah, quaran) and now the US has to deal with the new Fashion Religions (buddhism and hinduism). If you are a Real Shaman you "see" that the Soil of the New World has no knowledge of Asia or the Middle East. This is just Franchising of Spirit to continue the Duality and Wars of Nonsense.
xwaystranger 10 months ago
that church dude who is talkin shit is stupid ass fuck hes believing in a dude he aint never met b4 OR KNOW OF (GOD/JESUES DONT NO HOW TO SPELL ThAT nAME)he should no that HIS ancester were doin these kinds of ritual b4 so wtf is he takin shit about ill rip that bible apart bunch of non sence ITS THE CAUSE OF ALL CHAOS ...church is a waste of money
dgfhghtgh 10 months ago
@dgfhghtgh lol, u dont know what your talking about. Spending a junkload of money on Shaman Ritual stuff. We never met God, but we have faith, Unlike your Shamanism. Its an old guy who believes he is in the Spirit World. My cousins grandpas is a Shaman. Trusted by a large scale of families. Hes told us that he only pretends to go into a trance. Its just a load of crap. And your asking a demon to go away? When you can ask an Angel to Banish it. Shamanism is a waste of time.
YoojLauj 10 months ago
you dumb bitch.,, my mom is shaman and this shit is fucken fake!!! just like you bitch. ill take the bible and stick it right up your ass fagget. you want to talk shit im from MN come and say that...your all talk fagg.
kmoua17 1 year ago
@kmoua17...........it's fake to you cause your mom fails everytime she cures you....HAHAHA.
justin17vang 1 year ago 2
@kmoua17
shut the fuck up you disrespecting idiot. Show some respect.
niamtxiv 1 year ago 2
you shut up, this shit is so fucken fake. who the fuck does this. disgrace to all HMONG SHAMAN.. that bastar should deal with all TUNELS in the USA. and why the fuck is he wearing a suit. I FEEL SO DUMB WATCHING THIS..... NAIMTXIV YOU FUCKEN DUMB BITCH.,
kmoua17 1 year ago
@kmoua17 man shut up...jus becuzz ur church shit work doesnt mean u have to dis on shaman people...frickin loser... scared go to church bitch...oh wait u already is going to church...jus becuzz they killed the duck and chicken doesnt mean that its a sin...fucken idiot...im sure they used a church guy and his frickin bible and holy water dont work so they called a real expert, a shaman and it worked so dont get fucken jealous...
unknown530 1 year ago
what a fucken joke....to all hmong people. that guy is crazy and needs to to sent to the funny FARM.
kmoua17 1 year ago
@kmoua17
Why don't you shut the fuck up, you dumb ass retard.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
what a fucken joke....to all hmong people.
kmoua17 1 year ago
brb gonna go and kill those 6 people who dislike this video
MrYoninja 1 year ago
wow. i never that the hmong ritual is actually significant.
watching this made feel that the hmong just wanted to be treated like every other american. hmong culture loves their ancestors!
MinuteXify 1 year ago
like no way.. the max.lol
MloveJ31109 1 year ago
I love these Hmong rituals. I'm always excited when I get to witness a ritual.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
Why the hell are people still arguing about the past? I mean it's good to be knowledged, but to use it in an arguement what's the point in that ? You're more of an ass than a smart person! Anyways we're all here living the lives so many other want, so just enjoy life!
BboyConquest 1 year ago
That shaman is awesome. Vang Pao was/is a monster.
uemciicmeu 1 year ago
@uemciicmeu shamans r totally cool and do know him personally uh i don't think so
dededoi 1 year ago
@dededoi do you know him, or do i know him? not sure what the question is...
uemciicmeu 1 year ago
from 0:43 to 0:55 is Rob Schneider talking about us HMONG, how cool
huavali 1 year ago 2
@huavali That Shit Is FUcking Crazy...lol
ahahahah .....Rob Schneider..lol
racetime2 1 year ago
@huavali It's not Rob Schneider. But they do look alike.
slor08 1 year ago
THAT'S MY GRANDPA!
mrthaopride 1 year ago 2
Anyways,while ya'll talking bout General Vang Pao,Ima change the subject! ^_^ OKay well hey, look, its my amazing Grandpa!!! Sua Lee Cha.. I love my Grandpa !! =]
mschagirl 1 year ago
HMONG for LIFE !!!!!....never fuck with the shamans ....we will summon yo ass to hell bitch...!!!
strangervang 1 year ago
@strangervang i agree with you, but you're just making a fool out of yourself.
mvang01 1 year ago
@mvang01 its all good...mah hmong people....
strangervang 1 year ago
this is amazing. i never even knew this. im proud our own hmong shaman were able to have the spirits rest in peace. its sad though the subway wat built under the
cemetary. but since its already there, cant do anything about it. proud to be hmong!!
mryang91 1 year ago
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Agian, any updates on the tunnel situations???
toumongmybaby 1 year ago
first of all the bad guys were not the vietnam ppl it was the amercan ppl that was the bad ppl. do some research ppl and u will find the true facts US is hiding
R20024 1 year ago
updates on the tunnel situations?
leejvaj13 1 year ago
All the hater should go back to Laos and suck their Communist leader's cock.
COMMUNIST KILLER ALL THE WAY....................
hlubtiagproduction 1 year ago
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dededoi 1 year ago
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@hlubtiagproduction eewww that is just nasty kids please don't argue about nonesense please, there is no need for profanity because pao is the bomb he is cool
dededoi 1 year ago
To all those hater against Vang Pao. You think that talking shit about your own races leader would make other races proud of you? NO, i dont think so. The more you talking shit, the more other races will desrespecting hmong people. and that including your fucken ass too. No wonder we dont have a country to live. Because there's some hmong hater like you out there. WILLING TO KILL HIS OR HER OWN LEADER TO ACCEPT THE OFFER MADE BY THE ENEMY.
hlubtiagproduction 1 year ago
Shaman Pride all the way!!!
xyang26 1 year ago 5
great video. This month is Hmong History Month. We should be proud of our ancient traditions and beliefs.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
Wonder if it worked. That's a lot of food they're offering the dead.
MSMAIYANG 1 year ago
@MSMAIYANG well the tunnel was built under a cemetery so there is more than one person to offer to.
kashmonkey 1 year ago
Lol im related to him =)
RobertMoua 1 year ago
wow very nice and great correct translation.
pyang169 1 year ago
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916stevely 2 years ago
No it's not. It's Hmong. I can understand everything my Grandpa is saying, he's my grandpa! And I'm Hmong.!
rappinloanagent 2 years ago
you such a stupid dumass..im hmong an i could understand you dum fuck head!! go fuck ur self!!!
jetvang503 1 year ago
so did he fix it??? just wobdering....
the600cc 2 years ago
Wo this vidoe i was there when it happen this is true it happen to my sister and me it was scary i can't believe i actually saw things that i post to not to see but i was strong not to be scary at all.
SuperJason91 2 years ago
hey my dad a shaman to other peoples ask him to the same thing like every other week.i ask why you keep offering your 3hade wolf but never got the answer for it
PAOHMONGYANG 2 years ago
go hmong people..
bboy420sa 2 years ago
yo this video is'nt about GVP... it's about a freaking shaman exorcising a spirit in a subway! oh and don't hate the americans, not all of them are asswipes to us, hate only breeds more hate. & love once in an eterniaty.Shaman power!
JustOneMoreDork 2 years ago
it's beautiful that Hmong people are being included in the very fabric of America. after six generations of being in exile from our original home we have found a place to call home.
pnynurse 2 years ago
May god bless USA and hmong people's culture..
Juinor 2 years ago 21
my dads uncle lmao
MattCha245 2 years ago
To all people who are talking about Vang Pao..you guys don't really know much..he did not want to conquer Laos..he only fight to bring us here..Americans say..win or lose..we will take you to USA..that why he fought..without him you will not be here..you should be thankful..and stop hating..
leenkeng1 2 years ago 22
He cared for his own ass. He doesn't even know you exist. One question: Did he give you a monthly stipend to live off of, much less paid your way through school? I assume you went to school, right?
Get your facts straight. Thanks, leen. :)
micrheu 2 years ago
Who cares about the whiners. All they can ever do is rant. lol
niamtxiv 2 years ago
@leenkeng1 I disagree with him being the commander giving order to murder innocent hmong life base on lies from his lower-in-command. But I don't hate him, I only believe in god sending this man to hell as his punishment. What I'm saying is VP shouldn't sacrifice people's life to save others, he should have sacrificed himself, which he didn't. This guy is no hero. All he did was make the decision, my gramps are the hero, they did all the hard work to get me here. Praise to my gramps!
zmanthao 1 year ago
@leenkeng1 The only ones who lost a family members was the one who was order by him to go to the trenches. Vang Pao did not pay for my families plane ticket to America. I lost my only uncle in the Secret War. I will never see my only uncle, only hear stories about him. Vang Pao never send his blood family members into the front line he only send other people. Like my 12 year old uncle to be sacrifice. He is the father to us and i agree on that, but hes not what everyone think he is.
ThatHmoobGuy 1 year ago
@ThatHmoobGuy everyone lost somebody in that war
dededoi 1 year ago
@ThatHmoobGuy still hating all this time let it go
ryukenmaster30 1 year ago
@leenkeng1 I agree with you. They don't understand history, matter of fact they don't even know themselves any more. They are what the Whites call lost sheep.
sushi81 10 months ago
@leenkeng1 and yes we thank vang pao for that!
beautylaydee 5 months ago
Whole Wheat, BMT, all the veggies too, please.
Is the Hmong Subway Shaman gonna serve it up?
micrheu 2 years ago
fuk all that white people only hmong go hmong peolpe and free hmong people in the jungless
somehmongguy 2 years ago
anyway... vang pao is vang pao, a person. if he is so "bad" and "horrible," then become your own person and do better. wait, can you? no... you want to go over to your gf's house and hope you get some chaka-chaka..... tsk tsk tsk... then go home, get on the computer and criticize vang pao...
theycallmethebadone 2 years ago
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six1duece 2 years ago
well i don't know why all u ppl are arguing about vang pao down there... this vid is about the city accepting, respecting, and participating, respectfully, the hmong culture and opinion... this is a good step for the city. appreciate this, because it could have been reported way differently -- with criticism, angry or foul words, etc...
theycallmethebadone 2 years ago
Not to dis vang pao but after doing some research, Vang Pao wanted to conquer Laos for the hmong people. Therefore we went to war and ended losing and not having a land to call our own.
dummiedoua 2 years ago
seems to be like yasumpusse1ey has his facts right
dummiedoua 2 years ago
subway under a graveyard right? so how is the white ghost gonna understand hmong language? i pretty sure about 95% of those thats been bury there never even herd the word hmong before. hahahaha this shit makes me laugh. by the hows the subway doing now?
no disrespect to my fellow hmong brother.
stockton209kid 2 years ago
in the hmong belief, spirits can understand one another. it's ignorant for you to say that. it's wrong to built a subway underneath the graveyard. Just like it's prohibited to built homes on top of a land once a lake and it's also prohibited to built homes on top of graves.
niamtxiv 2 years ago
i see your point, but that's still a bad call when you're talking this way ... offensive towards people who have ancestors there.
theycallmethebadone 2 years ago
Subway Hmong Shaman?
I'll take my sub on Whole Wheat, BMT combo, pepper jack cheese, all the veggies, light on the Chipotle dressing, sprinkle some salt and pepper, and...oh yeah, extra olives please.
LMFAO
micrheu 2 years ago
wheres da sticky purple rice yeaaaah sticky rice with chicken, pork, sausage, egg roll, pepper, laab wit lettuce yeah dats gooooood, but at least da duck showed up and where not all gonna get haunted by the spirits and die a horrible death eat up spirits............ HMONG PEOPLE RULE!!!!!!!!
drbee20 2 years ago
White people paid this Hmoob Shaman to pay the dead people above the subway. Above the subway there's a big cemetery, white people dig underground to make their subway. The souls are unhappy they cause subways to crash at Portland zoo... this is why he's paying them money so they won't haunt no more people.
xyoojboi25 2 years ago
Xboi, the souls are unhappy beause of the noise. Wait, they're dead. Who gives a shit, right?
Haunt?! Okay, time to take your meds. :)
micrheu 2 years ago
You take the meds..motherfucker...ya know shit so shut the fuck up...
xyoojboi25 2 years ago
XiongBoy is swings...and misses.
All the dead folks are asleep, they're not mad. They don't care.
micrheu 2 years ago
micrheu, annoying little tot. Have your diaper been changed?
niamtxiv 2 years ago
Aww, Ma-Pa. It appeared you're annoyed. Hey Huggies diapers are on sale. Should I get ChiYou's permission first in order to capture the sales price for bulk boxes?
Is it 'have" or "has"...for a scholar, you failed at the simplest task. Funny.
micrheu 2 years ago
Hey MaPa...am I annoying? Or just stoking up much suppressed and hidden thoughts that no one is willing to blurp out? :D
micrheu 2 years ago
Xboi, maybe Vang Pao should pay the spirits money. Wait a minute, he can't. His cash is going to the trial lawyers defending his wrinkled ass with that coup attempt, right? Cripes, he's just as messed up as this bonehead hitting the gong and babbling to himself. (sigh)
micrheu 2 years ago
wow some people are really stupid to talk shit on this board... wtf is you problem...
MrHmoob123 2 years ago
mr. hmong...how is it that it's a problem to dive into this stuff? Seems like you're quite the defender here. Thanks. Now move along.
micrheu 2 years ago
i will... dont worry... nice to meet you
MrHmoob123 2 years ago
Sayonara
micrheu 2 years ago
Someone please tell his shaman hunyuk to clean up his crap and get outta there. Geez, public taxes providing space for him to bang a gong all day? What a tool.
micrheu 2 years ago
vang pao is a bad person to some hmongs. thats all i know.
LoserBo1 2 years ago
but regardless, without vang pao no hmong would be in america right now...
LilyVang08 2 years ago
Without vang pao, hmong will still be in America, just look at all southeast asian that didnt fight the war that came here, who fought the war knows nothing about vang pao and was still here.
yasumpuss1ey 2 years ago
actually because he got the hmong involved in the US was the reason that we're here... hmong people are very effective when it comes to war but they are not rich people nor are the middle class... they cant afford to come to the US. other asians are wealthy they have their own country they can afford to make it to the US. the american see that we the hmong people cant live in a communist country be anticommunist... it is the least they can do to repay the favor of a true ally.
MrHmoob123 2 years ago
I don't take away anything from vang pao, but if you know what he really did you will see that if he conquar laso nothing will change. he murder so many HMONG people who refuse to go regardless of their condition. I didn't care if they were the only child or they were sick or have some type of physical problem. he was the one who recruited Hmong kids at the age of 8. Hmon peep believe me the reason why we're here is the hmong who fought and die not vang pao, kno your facts.
yasumpuss1ey 2 years ago
he murder hmong who refuse to go to war and careless about their condition, that's wat i meant to say.
yasumpuss1ey 2 years ago
No you're wrong my sister. Not to be rude, but ever let those type of statment fool you. without vang pao we will still be here. When Vang Pao left he never came back to rescue the Hmong. In fact he told Hmong to stay and fight the war. His attemtp to overthrow the laotian government wasnt to save the chao fa, he wanted to conquer laos. Trust me I know my facts. I respect GVP. But there so much shit he did that fuck the Hmong community up. Kno your facts ad do your research. Dont get mad at me.
yasumpuss1ey 2 years ago
So what you're saying, yasumpussy, is that VP extorted, robbed, lied, and even perhaps killed his own, for the betterment of his (VP) own gains, right?
So here's my question for you? How could you respect someone with such a track record or intentions? You're speaking with a forked tongue here, yasumpuss.
micrheu 2 years ago
I respect the fact that he became the first hmong general. But he's just like most of the pass Hmong leader who greeds. Who will kill any one that becomes popular or gain popularity in the Hmong community. When GVP became popular Toube wanted to kill him. GVP killed Shoua Lue yang aka the Hmong Prophet because of his popularity. GVP killed the Hmong who refused to go to war regardless of their situation such as they are the only child. You don't have to believe me, just ask your parent.
yasumpuss1ey 2 years ago
So you respect him on HOW he attained his military and social status? What TouBee did or didn't do doesn't matter.
Funny you mentioned my parent, or parents. They scoff and laugh at VP's illiterate ways and how he still sucks the life blood from hmong people.
Is that the foundation of your respect?
micrheu 2 years ago
i've never seen a shaman in a train tunnel before, it's kinda funny.
543176vue 2 years ago
HMONG PPL ROCK! KUV HLUB KUV!
phimmaa 2 years ago
You see it's these Jesus Christ fucking sinners who causes death among us. Us Hmongs just try to help out and they hate us now because we always have good hearts. What a butcha fucking backstabbing bitches. Just like what they did to us in Vietnam war? Just Like what they're doing to Vang Pao? Just what they doing to these dumbfucking Hmongs who convert who no longer have a brain!!!
OrangeGuy559 2 years ago
everything you said is correct except the vang pao part....the thing is he did that shit on his own so he should man up and take the consequences instead of relying on hmong people to bail his ass out.....
1fishfinatic3 2 years ago
Vang Pao Is A Leader. He Will Always Have His Niggas Backing Him Up No Matter How Wrong He Is. To Me, Gen Vang Pao Is A Gangsta. He Needs To Get Life In Prison. That Nigga Is Gulity Ass Hell! Hahaha
OrangeGuy559 2 years ago
well your opinions are yours and mine are mines but i believe that he is not a gangster or what not.. i just believe that he was at the right place at the right time which caused the Americans to recruit him....I mean anyone could have done the job cause lots of hmong people know their way around the jungle and they would know how to perform guerilla attacks....get what i'm saying.....and yes you are right he was guilty ass hell
1fishfinatic3 2 years ago
Too Bad Gen. Vang Pao Is Going To Court! I'mma Watch It As He Goes through his bullshit! Backstabbing White Boys And There way around the world. Just Like we know how to guerilla attack they know how to backstabb!
OrangeGuy559 2 years ago
i'm guessing your right on that lol
1fishfinatic3 2 years ago
ahaha funny. dude he's not gulity. he was set up by the CIA to go and buy weapons. the USA got not prove that he did it on his own. and the Hmong people got prove that they set him up. theyeven talk to that CIA person who came to his house to talk about the wepons, and he is going to help Gen. Vang Pao out. but he was just a backstubb...
tubhm00bvaj 2 years ago
Oh Yeah I could care less. Gen. Vang Pao shoulda gave the Ak's to me. I woulda took out Laos myself! Fuck Laos! Fuck the CIA! Weaksauce!
OrangeGuy559 2 years ago
hmong pride fasho!....
kue4life313 2 years ago
YEA_BOI!!! HMONG NATION!
phimmaa 2 years ago
the hmong culture is so beautiful.
Arielleyy 2 years ago
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Arielleyy 2 years ago
nah shamanism Rocks!!!
kouaxiong 2 years ago
I dont know about you guys, but that white guy with the brown hair look just like Rob Schneider.. haha.
steve0h2004 2 years ago
LOL hahahahaahahah
ZongyVang 2 years ago
I could barely understand what that shaman was saying .. almost sounded hmong chinese to me .. pwhaha my badd .. (:
Xiongbabii 2 years ago
the shamans words are usually chinese because that's where their ancestors came from. so if they were to use hmong words today, it will not work. causes the ancestors doesn't understands what the shaman is trying to say so they have to use chinese words.
voiceofexpression 2 years ago
blood shed? what the fuck are they talking about
hmongmike 2 years ago
the reporter said there were a couple of accidents after the rail line was up. i guess by saying blood shed he is saying people could die by the spirits doing.
SilverSurfer3o 2 years ago
i respect our religion and how we do things, but just not the drinking!
bboikiller 2 years ago
if you guy are all hmong people talking shit to each other your guys are all simply retarded. this is one reason why "us" hmong people can't stick together.
vangcindy9 2 years ago
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SouliantDivilat 2 years ago
This is a free country. You can get marry to whomever at whenever you prefer. Getting marry is a huge step into life and you must wait to see if the true companion you desires is the person of your dreams. Sometimes taking that iniciative step may big a huge mistake but at the same time it can be a very well blessings to become wiser because that is when a person would be matured while entering into the marry life world.
boyjohnnyyoyo 2 years ago
dang fo real, my parents were shaman in the life before now, and bad things keep hapening to us, but its all taken care of now, your going to be a important person later on
bboikiller 2 years ago
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SouliantDivilat 2 years ago
what if you a guy, ahaha
bboikiller 2 years ago
I dont think it matters if your whole family still practice shamanism, you can still convert to christianity if you really wanted to. I have friends that i went to highschool with back then, convert to christianity. You don't have to marry a christian dude, but if that's the case then i'll be your bachelor #1.. haha. jk.
steve0h2004 2 years ago
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Tor7men7ted2 2 years ago
SouliantDivilat I found this to be confused "my whole family does shaman". Actually shaman is a person (male or female) who can go into the other side of the world and heal people. The Hmong's religion is called animism and shaman is a part of the religion and the Hmong.
Tor7men7ted2 2 years ago
why are you guys hating!
it doesn't matter if your "neeg"
or your christian we are all of Hmong blood and i'm sure everyone knows that if they are. i'm christian but i believe that "neeg" was a traditon created by God for Hmong ppl and so i love God and i love the tradition he has given us and i am proud that i a Hmong and will never change....and if your hating shit it out your ass cuz your breath is sure gonna stink!
tae433765 2 years ago
I agree w/ your statement. It doesn't matter what believe we have, deep inside us we're still Hmong no matter what. I admire our culture, traditions, and heritage. I appreciate our ancestors and still pays my respect to them because they made who we are. However, in the other hand let's try to debate about religion here. It doesn't matter which faith an individual has. What matters is their personality, obedient, and self discipline behaviors. A true christian would not say any harsh words.
boyjohnnyyoyo 2 years ago
yeah i totally agree......unfortunately i'm a christian with a sharp tongue.....and so.....i'm sorry God has given me a blunt mouth that just can't be helped......but yes i also believe that one's moral thinking has to count...it all depends on a person's thinking and their ability to comprehend the meaning of tradition ties.
tae433765 2 years ago
lol Don't worry. Everyone does it. lol
boyjohnnyyoyo 2 years ago
i dont think so...
iabxiong 2 years ago
I see your all still hating on each other. I could care less what you fucks are arguing about. I love "neeg" and I respect my ancestors. I could care less about church. More power to you if you go. Just trying to holler at cupidgirl916! Please shoot me your digits? I'm a nice shamen...
OrangeGuy559 2 years ago
lol ummmmm........
cupidgirl916 2 years ago
i said i dotn wanna do it! i aitn gunna be the next family "shawomen" lol too much work!!! lol
cupidgirl916 2 years ago
Well if you don't wanna be the next shawomen in your family, then you can be my helper huh? I need a helper to burn the incense and fortunes. Can I get your number?
OrangeGuy559 2 years ago
lol ummm lol
if your a guy dont you have a guy helper?
and i all those part are for guys like
cutting the meat and shit
i rahter just cook clean and watch kids
and dont even say we gunna make some kids lol and i dont like fire so i dont burn shit!!!! lol and you aint gettin my ######## lol but chu funnie boi lol♥
cupidgirl916 2 years ago
Finally Hmong people are on the map, and Hmong culture is making history.
3YawjLiajnu 2 years ago
this is a great man this is what you called
an "asian conscience"
ohshitdamnboi 2 years ago
Lite rail lines are effing lame. They mess up traffic and it's too easy for someone who's had a little too much to drink, and a little too much time to feel sorry for themselves, walk out in front of them.
....Actually, wait, no, lite rail lines are kind of cool now that I think about it.
ThatSatyr 2 years ago
you see, the HMONG actually cares about these kind of things and it would make sense to do something about it. So i guess what you see is a very old tradition which many cannot perform. So...respect the HMONG people
dbzkid161 2 years ago
Hi, nice video ! I wrote a song for hmong people. Click on my name and choose the song " YOU RAISE ME UP HMONG " please ;)
goldomyk 2 years ago
I am a Shaman myself. I love this guy. I wish I had a chance to be on the news. I could care less what people think of my religon. As long as I try to help out, thats all that matters to me and being on t.v. LoLz!
OrangeGuy559 2 years ago
I don't think the vain glory of being on tv is a top priority, at least, not the last time I checked. It was about helping, healing and maintaining balances for the sake of everyone, not 15 minutes of fame
bloodymissb 2 years ago
Finally a smart and thoughtful lady who speaks her mind. Forget about the shaman being on t.v and fame. I think I'm in love......I was at the wrong bloodymissb. Can you tell me more? Reply back plz! Can I call you sometime?
OrangeGuy559 2 years ago
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. I'm afraid I don't exchange numbers with strangers though. You can send me a message if you really want to talk.
bloodymissb 2 years ago
i hate that people are arguing over beliefs (shamanism vs. christianity). which ever you believe, just let people do what they know is best. it's a belief so just respect it. shamans deal with disturbed spirits, maybe that wont work right? well christians pray, who knows if that works anyway too right?
my point is, stop judging others beliefs. maybe they wont judge you if you dont judge them.
be glad people are trying at things.
thanks for the video. very informative.
peanutbutter1988 3 years ago
very interesting....didn't know there where hmoob ppl in portland...
mzhmb 3 years ago
common we every where now
devilishthugs 2 years ago
yea lot all over in cities around portland
weewoodeal 2 years ago
Goodness, I've lived in Portland for 10 years and didn't know there was a subway, only a light rail O_o
SockReaper2000 3 years ago
Hahaha...nice response..^__^
Unspoke 2 years ago
so they called the chinese buddas and they couldnt do shit in that tunnel, so they called the hmong shaman, funny. Lord Chi You the 43rd king of china was hmong and he actually had real horns on his head.
traiter82 3 years ago
............. well, if you don't know you Hmong history. The Hmong used to have a country or nation. The location was said to be now call "China" in the late 2000 B.C. or so. Anyways, what i'm trying to say is that. The chiness push out the Hmong from the upper region and all of it's power into Laos with their savage desire for power. I really can't say it's true, but the Hmong legend that's been told got to start somewhere.
lirg123 3 years ago
It makes sense that Hmong people come from China, but they were hated and killed because they rejected the king(s) and the monarchy system. They wanted to be free. Your description of the chinese "savage desire for power" doesn't really depict a clear picture of what happened between the two groups.
theonlychifeng 3 years ago
...... your right, it's savage desire for LAND. LOL, What ever, i don't really care either way. The main point of what i was trying to say was the Chinese push the Hmong out of their land. I don't know my history much so...... lets leave it like that.
lirg123 3 years ago
um.. it true that the chinese savage desire for power, because when the chinese found out that the hmong also have a huge kingdom like them they were afraid that one day the hmong ppl will over power them so they decied to destory the hmong kingdom. even though hmong didn't think about fighting the chinese, the chinese try to make the hmong fight each other and take over. but after that all hell break lose and hmong were fear all over china. some went south some sail east to where is now japan.
1o2o3e 2 years ago
i hate u racist people!
Asianpowerr 3 years ago
....... please give more detail about the racist people.
lirg123 3 years ago
Snap it's rob schneider
TallT703 3 years ago
Great video clip. Thanks for posting. What ever your religion is please do not disrespect others. Hmoob tsis sib hlub hmoob, leej twg tiaj li hlub Hmoob? :) Peace!
Nspiration01 3 years ago
hey their related to me..wow...lol...
503bboychacha 3 years ago
hell yea man asian pride dude!!!! das how we hmong ppl do it!!
oreo1az 3 years ago
lol yep black magic
weewoodeal 2 years ago
it's not black magic
KuvHmoobNas 2 years ago
wat it called then... that wat say an i hear everyone else say
weewoodeal 2 years ago
lol you want me to get detailed aye? i don't think you will believe me. Here goes.
It's what americans call "white magic" since it is not harming anything, I can see.
I hear about people, sucking blood, you americans call it vampire. But it is black magic, because those people possess spirits that must drink blood. Therefore, if they don't drink people blood, they will drink the owner's blood, and that's why some people go around drinking other people's blood.
KuvHmoobNas 2 years ago
i dont know why that they would do that!!
omfg im kinda tired of neng!
just get go and go on
its not like itll kill the americans!!
just do shit!!!
spirits wont hurt americans who dont believe
will maybe lol
but we do this too much god!!!i mean shamen!!
Vangsta girl
cupidgirl916 2 years ago
yeah i don't either, but i find it interesting x]. my gf's sis in law was saying they should be christians because they lazy to do neng.
But if you christian, you get to go to church once every sunday, which is more work than neng? xD well not really work but ya more "lazy thing and i dont wanna do" than neng?
KuvHmoobNas 2 years ago