Governor Snyder (R) Michigan did the exact same thing. He cut education by 15% and said that he would return some funding if they kept their tuition hikes under 7%. I don't know why Obama would want to give that speech in Michigan.
tuition costs go up because students have loans backed by the govt why would they not put them up if the govt are gonna keep handing out loans to everyone
Keeping artifificially low interest rate loans for college is causing the increase. Look at it this way the banks don't lose money because if you can pay it back the tax payer garantees the loan So there is no incentive for the bank to limmit loans or the cost this is why ppl get $200,000 to study interior design. The colleges have NO incentive to lower prices because the students can get these loans for outrageous ammounts easily. Everyone wins except the student & taxper. Housing bubble Jr.
@iamsean90 One tip. Had to insert most of my own punctuation. Its a bad habbit to get into, especially online. Your argument is good though from what I understand you said.
@DaBamBamMan I keep running out of characters. So i try to capitalize when i end a sentance because 500 characters just isnt enough. Also posting multiple commentsto get my point across is not only crazy but they show up in reverse order so the any point is lost. I also mispelled taxpayer accidently not to save space. Side issue every tyt viewer is an english major, or at least 97.5% of them are english majors cuz the punctuation thing is like the most common response.
I think if Universities are malicious and willful in raising Tuition, then they should have there funding cut. But schools that make a reasonable and fair effort to control tuition, I think that's OK. Tuition might go up, but reasonably so.
However, I do think the availability of student loans is inflating the cost of a university education. Then easy money is available, the market expanse to consume all available money. Plus it is deferred money; spend now, pay later.
I think something different needs to be done. first gov't might need to have a bit more of a say with the state universities. now private universities this is a different manner, but most private schools are non-profit. What I worry about are these for-profit private institutions that do exactly what you are describing!!!
The State of the Union Address clearly showed that Obama is already on the campaign trial. That was campaign Obama, not President Obama....there's a big difference.
A tuition cap forces schools to scale horizontally, and that will lead to monopolies since it's simpler to merge then. Great going government. The better question is why are the costs high and rising in the first place. Part of the reason, not the whole reason, is colleges knowing that they'll get enough students no matter what they charge because the government and many institutions are still very loose on giving student loans to anyone for any amount.
@lordblazer Whether they're supposed to have one or not is irrelevant; they do. In fact everyone who cares about living does. Even public non-profits need to make money in order for the people running them and teaching there to live comfortably; you didn't think they were all volunteers did you? The more money they can make then the greater salaries they can take and the more people they can hire and the more students they can get.
there is a difference between non-profit organizations, and state universities. as non-profits are typically privately owned and operated. I also need for you to understand that a lot of these organizations due to their registration have certain privileges that allows them to operate if they are behind on the books at the end of the yr that for-profit organizations cannot do. Also State universities are operated by state gov'ts and receives federal funding to students.
there is a strong need to make sure that budgets are balanced at state universities, but currently a disproportionate amount of money isn't getting to their universities. anyway when it comes to the increase of cost gov'ts should be able to account for that and adjust accordingly to be able to continue to properly fund these universities. I understand how organizations operate, but hey you don't know me or what I do. So whatever.
@lordblazer None of your comments address any of my points. But if the cost is increasing instead of decreasing and at such a rapid pace, as we have been witnessing over the past couple decades, then something fundamental is wrong. It should be going down, I don't see how anyone could argue the contrary. And it can't be solved by shouting "for-profit everywhere!" or "non-profit everywhere!" or "private!" or "public!"
1:57 Lewis Black once said: "We have a two-party system: a democratic party -- which is a party of no ideas -- and the republican party -- which is a party of bad ideas... and the way it works is the republican stands up in congress and goes 'I've got a really bad idea!' and the democrat says 'And I can make it shittier!" ... ... That's the way I feel about Obama in regards to what's talked about here
Ana is a stupib broad. The reason college tuition is high, is because we dont tax he rich enough? God damn stupid communist woman, she understands NOTHING about economics. Ana, why arent you making me a sandwich?
@calimar28 You know nothing about economics. Throwing around the term "communist" does not give you even the most basic understanding of economics-- and is pretty strong evidence that you don't know what you are talking about.
But things like property tax were much, MUCH higher back in the 1950s and that money was put towards, among other things, to make colleges great. As a direct result, the tuition was shockingly low compared to today.
@TheHobgoblyn the reason college tuition is so high is because of the federal gov giving away loans to every 18 year-old like they are free money, they are not free, they're my tax dollars! I wonder why educational debt has reached over credit card debt.
@kazooga1234 at least if the for profit colleges got cut off, they wouldn't be able to use my tax dollars to fund their useless programs that would produce no job but more federal debt!
The only time University costs went down was when Babyboomers had to pay for their kids to go. After that, tuition went BACK up. Try to remember it was normal to save for 18 years to SEND your kid to University.
Subsidizing University will ONLY see the price go up - that's what ALWAYS happens when you subsidize costs.
@mweibleii America subsidizes the cost of corn and the price didn't go up-- instead a massive number of people grow it and there is such a vast surplus that it is practically as cheap as water and used in nearly all food in the U.S. as well as for lifestock feed, cooking oil and turned into fuel.
I may be wrong, but I think it depends on what exactly is being subsidized. In your example of corn, the farmer gets what? I mean, how is the government involved? Do they buy the corn? Are they paying the farmer money directly to make corn? Is corn cheaper than if there was no subside? Is there competition?
For Universities, is the gov subsidizing the University or the tuition? Is there competition? If the government did not subsidize tuition, would cost come down?
@mweibleii In the case of the corn, the government pays farmers simply for growing the corn. It is easy, nearly guaranteed income and so nearly ALL farmers grow corn instead of anything else.
Then they are left with such a huge amount of corn that they practically just give it away just to get rid of it.
OK, but doesn't that mean that the government is distorting the free market? Isn't the price of other things (say organic blueberries) going to be higher because less farmers make what the people demand and instead make what the government pays for (which we ultimately pay for though our tax).
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Think about this. Corn syrup / fructose is literally KILLING us with diabetes. It's in everything we eat. So we pay again - with our health.
@mweibleii Oh, yeah. The corn subsidies are definitely a distortion of the free market and leads to some really terrible results. But the point is that the subsidies didn't make the price of the corn go up, they make the price of everything else go up and cause Americans to eat unhealthy.
But then I have to note in the case of colleges-- aren't they nonprofits entities? Which should mean price of admission isn't determined by the free market. So really, where is the money going?
I personally think/know a lot of it gets sucked up into administration. The schools within the University generally run at a lose, or close to it IF they're in Sciences. But, if they're in Econ or Political "Science" (that's a joke) then they really do make a lot of money.
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Tuition is set at whatever the students can be squeezed for. Which will be more IF the Uni's think they can get more. Sad, but, true.
Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see cheaper University, but, I'm 100% sure that subsidizing tuition isn't going to break that about. The Universities will just charge more because student can afford more.
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I'm not sure what the answer is in this case, other than passing a law limiting tuition and funding Universities changed?
That's great (if it actually happens), but what about those of us already drowning in debt from student loans and not able to pay them because of the shitty job market and not being able to find a job that pays enough!
I'm kind of surprised that TYT didn't like the presidents plan. I'll admit that I didn't watch the whole speech, but of the parts that I watched, the bit about education was the only part that I thought sounded encouraging and progressive
I hope Obama doesn't get a second term. In fact, there should only be one term possible for anyone to be president. In fact donations to any politician from anyone should be illegal as well as personal funding from the person running for office; the funding for political positions should come from our tax dollars at equal rates to other politicians running for the same office. This would limit most of the political corruption.
I'm so sick of hearing people go on about privatizing k-12 education. This is what happens to privatized education; tuition costs go up not down. Sure, America has some of the best universities in the world, but literally at what cost? Obviously, it's a great benefit IF one can afford it, but like any business, they'll jack up the price as high as they can take it, until enough people decide that it's not a worthwhile investment and forgo a college degree
@H3770mynameis It is goverment involvment in colleges with loans and grants, that drive prices up. Get rid of goverment loans and grants, and prices come back down. Simple fix.
@H3770mynameis This is not true. Other countries that have both private and public universities spend more in their cost-per-student in public universities than what students pay in tution. Can't you see that unlimited student loans simply pump the tuition bubble?
@H3770mynameis if tuition goes up they don't get any customers. Lol let there be competition. Isn't that capitalism, as if Public schools are awesome. No they are horrendous and are dropout factories.
@H3770mynameis At least privatized colleges with super high tuition and useless degrees would not be able to use my tax dollars to hand out useless degrees for lazy students that will default on federal loans... it's better than the other way.
Obama said that millionaires should pay at least 30% tax. Wow... a whopping 30%! So Obama would be OK with at least a 5% tax cut??? On TOP of the Bush tax cuts? 30%? That's not ambitious at all! How about AT LEAST 40%? 45?
@DemonicCollusion thats not a lot. think about how much work they do. its reasonable 500k isn't even that much compared to the CEOs of any major company. A lot of doctors and lawyers make more than that and they dont' even have to be in charge of anything
Why is anna on the right!? Boom! the moon blew up.
ThatCrazyBrownGuy 2 weeks ago
Easy federal loans are what's driving tuition
365to173repubsPWNED 1 month ago
@365to173repubsPWNED exactly!
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MrChatItOut 1 month ago
Governor Snyder (R) Michigan did the exact same thing. He cut education by 15% and said that he would return some funding if they kept their tuition hikes under 7%. I don't know why Obama would want to give that speech in Michigan.
lamorega 1 month ago
tuition costs go up because students have loans backed by the govt why would they not put them up if the govt are gonna keep handing out loans to everyone
Issypt 1 month ago
Keeping artifificially low interest rate loans for college is causing the increase. Look at it this way the banks don't lose money because if you can pay it back the tax payer garantees the loan So there is no incentive for the bank to limmit loans or the cost this is why ppl get $200,000 to study interior design. The colleges have NO incentive to lower prices because the students can get these loans for outrageous ammounts easily. Everyone wins except the student & taxper. Housing bubble Jr.
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@iamsean90 One tip. Had to insert most of my own punctuation. Its a bad habbit to get into, especially online. Your argument is good though from what I understand you said.
DaBamBamMan 1 month ago
@DaBamBamMan I keep running out of characters. So i try to capitalize when i end a sentance because 500 characters just isnt enough. Also posting multiple commentsto get my point across is not only crazy but they show up in reverse order so the any point is lost. I also mispelled taxpayer accidently not to save space. Side issue every tyt viewer is an english major, or at least 97.5% of them are english majors cuz the punctuation thing is like the most common response.
iamsean90 1 month ago
I think if Universities are malicious and willful in raising Tuition, then they should have there funding cut. But schools that make a reasonable and fair effort to control tuition, I think that's OK. Tuition might go up, but reasonably so.
However, I do think the availability of student loans is inflating the cost of a university education. Then easy money is available, the market expanse to consume all available money. Plus it is deferred money; spend now, pay later.
blueboyblue 1 month ago
@blueboyblue
I think something different needs to be done. first gov't might need to have a bit more of a say with the state universities. now private universities this is a different manner, but most private schools are non-profit. What I worry about are these for-profit private institutions that do exactly what you are describing!!!
lordblazer 1 month ago
jayar kept you from sounding to biased
spaik007 1 month ago
The State of the Union Address clearly showed that Obama is already on the campaign trial. That was campaign Obama, not President Obama....there's a big difference.
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RON PAUL 2012
Youtubbemain 1 month ago
A tuition cap forces schools to scale horizontally, and that will lead to monopolies since it's simpler to merge then. Great going government. The better question is why are the costs high and rising in the first place. Part of the reason, not the whole reason, is colleges knowing that they'll get enough students no matter what they charge because the government and many institutions are still very loose on giving student loans to anyone for any amount.
DeJach 1 month ago
@DeJach
state universities aren't suppose to have a profit motive. are you serious?
lordblazer 1 month ago
@lordblazer Whether they're supposed to have one or not is irrelevant; they do. In fact everyone who cares about living does. Even public non-profits need to make money in order for the people running them and teaching there to live comfortably; you didn't think they were all volunteers did you? The more money they can make then the greater salaries they can take and the more people they can hire and the more students they can get.
DeJach 1 month ago
@DeJach
there is a difference between non-profit organizations, and state universities. as non-profits are typically privately owned and operated. I also need for you to understand that a lot of these organizations due to their registration have certain privileges that allows them to operate if they are behind on the books at the end of the yr that for-profit organizations cannot do. Also State universities are operated by state gov'ts and receives federal funding to students.
lordblazer 1 month ago
@DeJach
there is a strong need to make sure that budgets are balanced at state universities, but currently a disproportionate amount of money isn't getting to their universities. anyway when it comes to the increase of cost gov'ts should be able to account for that and adjust accordingly to be able to continue to properly fund these universities. I understand how organizations operate, but hey you don't know me or what I do. So whatever.
lordblazer 1 month ago
@lordblazer None of your comments address any of my points. But if the cost is increasing instead of decreasing and at such a rapid pace, as we have been witnessing over the past couple decades, then something fundamental is wrong. It should be going down, I don't see how anyone could argue the contrary. And it can't be solved by shouting "for-profit everywhere!" or "non-profit everywhere!" or "private!" or "public!"
DeJach 1 month ago
FUCKING TAX THE RICH OBAMA YOU OAF, OR MICHELLE WON'T GIVE YOU SEX!
rohannesburg 1 month ago 2
@rohannesburg LOL he said he was in the state of the union speech
truelycold 1 month ago
Too many people not paying back their student loans
timoback3000 1 month ago
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im sick of this leftist channel really im just subscribed for the crazy funny news
thenvdude 1 month ago
Side note, Anna is wearing waaay too much makeup.
jademinion 1 month ago
hes bullshitting to win the election
dangflo 1 month ago
Ana is a stupib broad. The reason college tuition is high, is because we dont tax he rich enough? God damn stupid communist woman, she understands NOTHING about economics. Ana, why arent you making me a sandwich?
calimar28 1 month ago
@calimar28 You know nothing about economics. Throwing around the term "communist" does not give you even the most basic understanding of economics-- and is pretty strong evidence that you don't know what you are talking about.
But things like property tax were much, MUCH higher back in the 1950s and that money was put towards, among other things, to make colleges great. As a direct result, the tuition was shockingly low compared to today.
TheHobgoblyn 1 month ago
@TheHobgoblyn the reason college tuition is so high is because of the federal gov giving away loans to every 18 year-old like they are free money, they are not free, they're my tax dollars! I wonder why educational debt has reached over credit card debt.
IncentiveMediaTV 1 month ago
it seems like he will make all the colleges into FOR PROFIT COLLEGES
kazooga1234 1 month ago
@kazooga1234 at least if the for profit colleges got cut off, they wouldn't be able to use my tax dollars to fund their useless programs that would produce no job but more federal debt!
IncentiveMediaTV 1 month ago
@IncentiveMediaTV they arent cut off though they are only somewhat cut off and they are still using tax money since they arent totally cut off
kazooga1234 1 month ago
i didnt even watch his speech because i knew tyt would talk about what was important
kazooga1234 1 month ago
The only time University costs went down was when Babyboomers had to pay for their kids to go. After that, tuition went BACK up. Try to remember it was normal to save for 18 years to SEND your kid to University.
Subsidizing University will ONLY see the price go up - that's what ALWAYS happens when you subsidize costs.
mweibleii 1 month ago
@mweibleii America subsidizes the cost of corn and the price didn't go up-- instead a massive number of people grow it and there is such a vast surplus that it is practically as cheap as water and used in nearly all food in the U.S. as well as for lifestock feed, cooking oil and turned into fuel.
TheHobgoblyn 1 month ago
@TheHobgoblyn
I may be wrong, but I think it depends on what exactly is being subsidized. In your example of corn, the farmer gets what? I mean, how is the government involved? Do they buy the corn? Are they paying the farmer money directly to make corn? Is corn cheaper than if there was no subside? Is there competition?
For Universities, is the gov subsidizing the University or the tuition? Is there competition? If the government did not subsidize tuition, would cost come down?
mweibleii 1 month ago
@mweibleii In the case of the corn, the government pays farmers simply for growing the corn. It is easy, nearly guaranteed income and so nearly ALL farmers grow corn instead of anything else.
Then they are left with such a huge amount of corn that they practically just give it away just to get rid of it.
TheHobgoblyn 1 month ago
@TheHobgoblyn
OK, but doesn't that mean that the government is distorting the free market? Isn't the price of other things (say organic blueberries) going to be higher because less farmers make what the people demand and instead make what the government pays for (which we ultimately pay for though our tax).
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Think about this. Corn syrup / fructose is literally KILLING us with diabetes. It's in everything we eat. So we pay again - with our health.
mweibleii 1 month ago
@mweibleii Oh, yeah. The corn subsidies are definitely a distortion of the free market and leads to some really terrible results. But the point is that the subsidies didn't make the price of the corn go up, they make the price of everything else go up and cause Americans to eat unhealthy.
But then I have to note in the case of colleges-- aren't they nonprofits entities? Which should mean price of admission isn't determined by the free market. So really, where is the money going?
TheHobgoblyn 1 month ago
@TheHobgoblyn
RE: where is the money going?
I personally think/know a lot of it gets sucked up into administration. The schools within the University generally run at a lose, or close to it IF they're in Sciences. But, if they're in Econ or Political "Science" (that's a joke) then they really do make a lot of money.
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Tuition is set at whatever the students can be squeezed for. Which will be more IF the Uni's think they can get more. Sad, but, true.
mweibleii 1 month ago
@TheHobgoblyn
Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see cheaper University, but, I'm 100% sure that subsidizing tuition isn't going to break that about. The Universities will just charge more because student can afford more.
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I'm not sure what the answer is in this case, other than passing a law limiting tuition and funding Universities changed?
mweibleii 1 month ago
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snakepit000 1 month ago
Obama is the biggest bullshitter in the world. I don't give a fuck what he says! I'll believe it when I see it.
MarkC538 1 month ago
That's great (if it actually happens), but what about those of us already drowning in debt from student loans and not able to pay them because of the shitty job market and not being able to find a job that pays enough!
jenisedai 1 month ago
@jenisedai im afraid you're screwed for being in the wrong era and not being smart enough to see through this college b.s. before you apply
IncentiveMediaTV 1 month ago
I'm kind of surprised that TYT didn't like the presidents plan. I'll admit that I didn't watch the whole speech, but of the parts that I watched, the bit about education was the only part that I thought sounded encouraging and progressive
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Jayar is a complete and utter moron. He always go on about the obvious as if he's proving a point. Please shut him up.
SeriouslyPissedOff 1 month ago
@SeriouslyPissedOff go be pissed off somewhere else
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@slytherinspy1960 Shut up jayar
SeriouslyPissedOff 1 month ago
@SeriouslyPissedOff my name is cassie....
slytherinspy1960 1 month ago
@slytherinspy1960 Shut up cassie
SeriouslyPissedOff 1 month ago
@SeriouslyPissedOff thanks!......wait what? :(
slytherinspy1960 1 month ago
I hope Obama doesn't get a second term. In fact, there should only be one term possible for anyone to be president. In fact donations to any politician from anyone should be illegal as well as personal funding from the person running for office; the funding for political positions should come from our tax dollars at equal rates to other politicians running for the same office. This would limit most of the political corruption.
kingkong8974 1 month ago
I'm so sick of hearing people go on about privatizing k-12 education. This is what happens to privatized education; tuition costs go up not down. Sure, America has some of the best universities in the world, but literally at what cost? Obviously, it's a great benefit IF one can afford it, but like any business, they'll jack up the price as high as they can take it, until enough people decide that it's not a worthwhile investment and forgo a college degree
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@H3770mynameis It is goverment involvment in colleges with loans and grants, that drive prices up. Get rid of goverment loans and grants, and prices come back down. Simple fix.
calimar28 1 month ago
@H3770mynameis Simple comment, but dead on.
Wiseguyzmoney 1 month ago
@H3770mynameis Just an FYI, MIT is a private school.
DeJach 1 month ago
@H3770mynameis This is not true. Other countries that have both private and public universities spend more in their cost-per-student in public universities than what students pay in tution. Can't you see that unlimited student loans simply pump the tuition bubble?
carlosandregoes 1 month ago
@H3770mynameis if tuition goes up they don't get any customers. Lol let there be competition. Isn't that capitalism, as if Public schools are awesome. No they are horrendous and are dropout factories.
Maybe the gov. should invest in Charter schools.
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@H3770mynameis At least privatized colleges with super high tuition and useless degrees would not be able to use my tax dollars to hand out useless degrees for lazy students that will default on federal loans... it's better than the other way.
IncentiveMediaTV 1 month ago
Cenk Uygar? who?
ejp93 1 month ago
Who misspelled Cenk's last name on the graphic? Smh FIRE THEM :) 4:12
Tekavolver712 1 month ago
I think even most Republicans in Congress are OK with a 30% tax rate on the top bracket.
whoo689 1 month ago
Obama said that millionaires should pay at least 30% tax. Wow... a whopping 30%! So Obama would be OK with at least a 5% tax cut??? On TOP of the Bush tax cuts? 30%? That's not ambitious at all! How about AT LEAST 40%? 45?
whoo689 1 month ago
Wait, what??
Doesn't NCLB already do this kind of thing for K-12? And look how THAT turned out...
whoo689 1 month ago
@whoo689 NCLB GIVES funding to schools who pass high testing standard, they don't take away funding. NCLB is the worst thing to happen to education.
jrpone 1 month ago
we need more info on ACTA!
SnKzephyr 1 month ago
How about we stop paying Uni presidents half of a million in salary?
DemonicCollusion 1 month ago
@DemonicCollusion thats not a lot. think about how much work they do. its reasonable 500k isn't even that much compared to the CEOs of any major company. A lot of doctors and lawyers make more than that and they dont' even have to be in charge of anything
TheAce1082 1 month ago
He talks the talk, but is he going to walk the walk?
stalker7d7 1 month ago 38
@stalker7d7 That you ask that question tells me you know the answer.
aaronpolitical 1 month ago
@stalker7d7 of course not.
SomethinDwnUrPantss 1 month ago
Wishful thinking on his part, but it wont happen....
As far as I understand it federal funding is the reason the cost is so high in the first place?? It wasn't like this in the 70's.
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bobsters34 1 month ago