@shootinthetube That Is cool. I'm jealous. Every time his name is mentioned, the word cool is never far away. I get the impression you're american.( i'm english) . Check out "Later with Jools Holland - Arthur lee". English music show. Beautifully filmed, and he's so Cool!
I guess this is the only place to post. Yes, a great song.... ya know when this kind of music of out not many people liked it! I bought the 45 (and still have it) of this song, but back then most people thought it was noisy and not in...with Frankie Avalon or etc..... music has gotten so commercial and video oriented.... it sure isn't the same.... peace
I met him at Musicians Union local 47 back then, he tipped me ten bucks rolled up in the love sticker I gave him. I thought he was just giving back the sticker! As he walked away, the ten spot popped out, just as he had also done, out the front door. Very cool guy. I helped him with works dues he had credits for, that the union was not telling him about. My boss @ the union must have disliked him. He fired me shortly after their meeting, & my refusal to remove a LOVE sticker from my typewriter.
Cool of Dick Clark to have them on. I doubt if he ever went to their castle tho. Arthur Lee was too deep and hip for Bandstand. Still cool of Dick tho hehe!
does anyone know if one of the guitarists in this video is the bobby guy who was in love early in their career, but was kicked out then joined up with charlie manson and murdered some one like a year before the tate murders?
@lwsullivan91 Nah... Bobby Beausoliel was only with them briefly in '65 when they were still called 'Grass Roots' before they changed to 'Love' (by getting the punters at a gig to pick a name... ha ha!) - they got a better deal in his replacement Bryan McLean (on guitar in this clip) for sure! Cool singer, songwriter and guitarplayer who completed the classic Love line-up.
There seemed to be a greater divide between old and young in the sixties than there is now, i think mainly due to just how freaky the kids were back then, and i don't mean that in a negative way. Youth of the sixties were most deffinately "far out" and played up to it in a big way. They wanted to be as far removed from their peers as possible and this is massively evident at the end of this video, the interviewer doesn't seems awkward around these cool cats aka Love and they were uber cool!
I'm sick of everyone arguing over who's arrangement of this song is the best. If you like this composition, I think one should give a nod to all arrangements. One of the beauties of music is the interpretation of a melody. What Love did was translate this song into what was popular in LA at the time, which meant simplifying. To argue that one arrangement is inferior is like saying Ode to Joy is inferior to the 9th's overture because it uses less notes
@jaysonvalentine agreed. this version sounds almost protopunk, which I tend to like. I've heard just about every version of this song and Love's version is near the top in terms of favorites. definitely a question of taste, though.
I saw Hillman, Clarke, McQuinn and Crosby on stage, 1966, on Sunset Strip with their debut of their Byrds album. Little did I know it was history in the making. What I DID know then is that it was instant love of their sound, feel, look and musicality. I was 17 and a local JC dj. I've never felt better. : ) My stepsister dated Ken Forssi (guitarist far left in Love video here) in Sarasota, Fla. his hometown. Youtube makes it an even smaller planet, indeed.
Bryan MacLean could easily be confused for Chris Hillman (of the Byrds). I swear they could've been twins. Sadly only one of these two greats is still with us.
@jonny1251 I always thought Mike Clarke looked more like Brian Jones. Rumor has it that is why the Byrds recruited him. I stand corrected in my previous post, as I confused Chris Hillman (who is still around) with Mike Clarke ( who, like Gene Clark, is unfortunately not). I'm still hoping Crosby, Roger McGuinn and Hillman get together for one final reunion tour. I'll be the first to buy tickets.
@smokeemonkee More like, most of them. The original melody and rhythm is sort of there, but the instrumental harmonies are simplified and, to be polite, re-imagined. This is a rock song that changes keys like a Bacharach song. (I'll bet Prince heard this at some point...). The original was in whatever genre Bacharach carved out, sophisticated pop, popular jazz-classical, or whatever. BB is BB. Later Love stuff shows more BB influence than is evident here.
@kanemura93 Yes, and Toni Basil's too. It's almost a bulletproof song, although Nuge or TB really set me on fire. Tony Middleton recorded it basically as it was composed, in a more complex arrangement, and for me, nailed it. (As in, Dionne Warwick-quality Bacharach-David). Both Basil and Middleton are on YT in some form. Love's best work was yet to come, on the Forever Changes album. Clearly Bacharach-influenced, but in a totally different direction, more folk and more rock.
@Stucifer Burt Bacharach is a hit machine. He wrote it originally for the 1965 film "What's New Pussycat?" (with lyrics by Hal David) and it was performed by "Manfred Mann"
The excellent "Love" cover came out done about a year later.
@HarryLimePresents Not exactly Love-related but....that soundtrack version by Manfred Mann includes Jack Bruce on bass, I think,m before joining Cream. He is credited on the sleeve, I think. Also the legend Frank Frazetta did the cover art (the film poster).
@Stucifer Sort of. Bacharach was miffed. Chords are different (wrong?). BB's starts on Gm7. Love starts on B major or B5; chords are *hugely* simplified throughout. The keys change in analogous ways occasionally but clearly, Lee hadn't seen the sheet music and guessed cleverly. I like this hip, proto-punk, cover. I prefer the BB-Tony Middleton version, which repays repeated listening, but fact is, AL learned much from trying to figure out BB, and the inspiring _Forever Changes_ is proof.
Thanks, HarryLimePresents, for uploading this and for not blocking me, I've been blocked by AmericanPunkGarage for reasons I cannot recall if I ever offended that Youtube member. It's really strange how the music he's got are of the 60s, which by his attitude towards me is subversive.
Great, mostly underrated group. Great song, but they didn't exactly break the bank on a drum set, did they? Don't think I've ever seen a group with such a sparse drum set-up, but it was the perfect sound for this particular song. The drumming was way different on "7 and 7 Is".
@125jlm From everything I know about the band Snoopy wasn't much of a drummer anyway. I think Arthur played drums on "7 &7 Is". Snoopy eventually moved to keyboards. Check out the action at the 2:13 mark- I think he actually had more drums than he could handle, haha.
@kidcharlemagne76 You're right that Snoopy wasn't real comfortable, or real good, on drums and switched to keyboards. But it's interesting that a pretty heavy-duty group such as this made it to this level, national television, with such a weak drummer. Of course, Ringo wasn't exactly Gene Krupa either but he was better than this.
2/04/2011 Can anyone recall any other groups of the time period, in which the bass player also used an EKO violin shaped bass, (besides thte Grass Roots, The Seeds, & The Music Machine) ??I had one too, but someone stole it from me! Send your reply via mssg. on my channel, if U know. FROM ME TO YOU hkyoutoob
best amaerican band of all time , there rite up there witht eh stones and and the beattles imo
TheRealMaaqee 19 hours ago
@shootinthetube That Is cool. I'm jealous. Every time his name is mentioned, the word cool is never far away. I get the impression you're american.( i'm english) . Check out "Later with Jools Holland - Arthur lee". English music show. Beautifully filmed, and he's so Cool!
fluorosco 2 days ago
First interracial band I ever saw. Blew my mind.
peterzang 1 week ago
For whoever thought Jimmy Page invented the double neck guitar, check out John Echols in this clip! An innovative band in more ways than one.
ezandycle 1 week ago
somebody else think these dudes are fn awesome
warehousetroll1 2 weeks ago 2
I guess this is the only place to post. Yes, a great song.... ya know when this kind of music of out not many people liked it! I bought the 45 (and still have it) of this song, but back then most people thought it was noisy and not in...with Frankie Avalon or etc..... music has gotten so commercial and video oriented.... it sure isn't the same.... peace
xrcjpx 1 month ago
Loved the LOVE band in Hollywood, the mid sixties were great!
shootinthetube 1 month ago
I met him at Musicians Union local 47 back then, he tipped me ten bucks rolled up in the love sticker I gave him. I thought he was just giving back the sticker! As he walked away, the ten spot popped out, just as he had also done, out the front door. Very cool guy. I helped him with works dues he had credits for, that the union was not telling him about. My boss @ the union must have disliked him. He fired me shortly after their meeting, & my refusal to remove a LOVE sticker from my typewriter.
shootinthetube 1 month ago
The vocals in this band inspired the later metal and alterative rock vocals. They had a unique style back then..nobody sang like them especially.
darnrabbits1 1 month ago
Cool of Dick Clark to have them on. I doubt if he ever went to their castle tho. Arthur Lee was too deep and hip for Bandstand. Still cool of Dick tho hehe!
NoRosesForMe 1 month ago
wow...i like this even better than the manfred mann version....great post !
LanceHelmut 1 month ago
OMG this is Bandstand!
I thought I saw "Famous" in the Audiance!!
I Love this song & Famous!
desert3347 1 month ago
Burt Bacharach hated Arthur's interpretation.,, Love BB, but Love LOVE & Arthur SO much more...
chappolee 1 month ago
Not only a great tune but the best pair of R&R shades this side of Roger McQuinn !
SMITHFRANK 1 month ago
does anyone know if one of the guitarists in this video is the bobby guy who was in love early in their career, but was kicked out then joined up with charlie manson and murdered some one like a year before the tate murders?
lwsullivan91 1 month ago
@lwsullivan91 Nah... Bobby Beausoliel was only with them briefly in '65 when they were still called 'Grass Roots' before they changed to 'Love' (by getting the punters at a gig to pick a name... ha ha!) - they got a better deal in his replacement Bryan McLean (on guitar in this clip) for sure! Cool singer, songwriter and guitarplayer who completed the classic Love line-up.
They should have been HUGE but....
MrPeterBrat 1 month ago
@MrPeterBrat i totally agree theyre top 5 for me no question. thanks so much for the info! huge nerd when it comes to music trivia
lwsullivan91 1 month ago
awesome love songs
warehousetroll1 2 months ago
Arthur Lee is the man. I love that guy.
ritter89 2 months ago
SWEET DRUM KIT!!!!!!
v1fly1 2 months ago
There seemed to be a greater divide between old and young in the sixties than there is now, i think mainly due to just how freaky the kids were back then, and i don't mean that in a negative way. Youth of the sixties were most deffinately "far out" and played up to it in a big way. They wanted to be as far removed from their peers as possible and this is massively evident at the end of this video, the interviewer doesn't seems awkward around these cool cats aka Love and they were uber cool!
InTimeAllMustChange 3 months ago
Haha Love are so psyched up in this, you can tell as the interviewer asks them questions.
fantasypgatour 3 months ago
@ ignoblius Love lip-synced it, which was common on music shows at that time
909kong 4 months ago
@909kong exactly.
TheClam88 2 months ago
Tom Jones recorded it
mtvoyager1 4 months ago
I want Arthur's glasses!
38ddkelly 4 months ago
You're absolutely right.
HarryLimePresents 4 months ago
I'm sick of everyone arguing over who's arrangement of this song is the best. If you like this composition, I think one should give a nod to all arrangements. One of the beauties of music is the interpretation of a melody. What Love did was translate this song into what was popular in LA at the time, which meant simplifying. To argue that one arrangement is inferior is like saying Ode to Joy is inferior to the 9th's overture because it uses less notes
jaysonvalentine 4 months ago
@jaysonvalentine agreed. this version sounds almost protopunk, which I tend to like. I've heard just about every version of this song and Love's version is near the top in terms of favorites. definitely a question of taste, though.
ritter89 2 months ago
I saw Hillman, Clarke, McQuinn and Crosby on stage, 1966, on Sunset Strip with their debut of their Byrds album. Little did I know it was history in the making. What I DID know then is that it was instant love of their sound, feel, look and musicality. I was 17 and a local JC dj. I've never felt better. : ) My stepsister dated Ken Forssi (guitarist far left in Love video here) in Sarasota, Fla. his hometown. Youtube makes it an even smaller planet, indeed.
SpeegBJ 5 months ago
Is that guy in the back really playing the drums? He looks like he's phoning it in.
ignoblius 5 months ago
I don't know anything technical about music etc. But this tune always rocked me & still does..And, Love the group is a trip.
2ajjames 5 months ago
Bryan MacLean could easily be confused for Chris Hillman (of the Byrds). I swear they could've been twins. Sadly only one of these two greats is still with us.
bixbyglaser 6 months ago
@bixbyglaser Or Mike Clarke from the Byrds!
jonny1251 5 months ago
@jonny1251 I always thought Mike Clarke looked more like Brian Jones. Rumor has it that is why the Byrds recruited him. I stand corrected in my previous post, as I confused Chris Hillman (who is still around) with Mike Clarke ( who, like Gene Clark, is unfortunately not). I'm still hoping Crosby, Roger McGuinn and Hillman get together for one final reunion tour. I'll be the first to buy tickets.
bixbyglaser 5 months ago
Bacharach said he didn't like this version because Love changed a chord...
smokeemonkee 7 months ago
@smokeemonkee More like, most of them. The original melody and rhythm is sort of there, but the instrumental harmonies are simplified and, to be polite, re-imagined. This is a rock song that changes keys like a Bacharach song. (I'll bet Prince heard this at some point...). The original was in whatever genre Bacharach carved out, sophisticated pop, popular jazz-classical, or whatever. BB is BB. Later Love stuff shows more BB influence than is evident here.
mtut 7 months ago
Can't say that I do. Got a link?
HarryLimePresents 7 months ago
Nice :) Ever heard Ted Nugent's cover?
kanemura93 7 months ago
@kanemura93 Yes, and Toni Basil's too. It's almost a bulletproof song, although Nuge or TB really set me on fire. Tony Middleton recorded it basically as it was composed, in a more complex arrangement, and for me, nailed it. (As in, Dionne Warwick-quality Bacharach-David). Both Basil and Middleton are on YT in some form. Love's best work was yet to come, on the Forever Changes album. Clearly Bacharach-influenced, but in a totally different direction, more folk and more rock.
mtut 7 months ago
This was a Burt Bacharach song?!?
Stucifer 9 months ago 3
@Stucifer Burt Bacharach is a hit machine. He wrote it originally for the 1965 film "What's New Pussycat?" (with lyrics by Hal David) and it was performed by "Manfred Mann"
The excellent "Love" cover came out done about a year later.
HarryLimePresents 9 months ago
@HarryLimePresents Not exactly Love-related but....that soundtrack version by Manfred Mann includes Jack Bruce on bass, I think,m before joining Cream. He is credited on the sleeve, I think. Also the legend Frank Frazetta did the cover art (the film poster).
mikelake1 2 weeks ago
@Stucifer Yes. It is. However Bacharach didn't record it himself.
HarryLimePresents 8 months ago
@Stucifer Sort of. Bacharach was miffed. Chords are different (wrong?). BB's starts on Gm7. Love starts on B major or B5; chords are *hugely* simplified throughout. The keys change in analogous ways occasionally but clearly, Lee hadn't seen the sheet music and guessed cleverly. I like this hip, proto-punk, cover. I prefer the BB-Tony Middleton version, which repays repeated listening, but fact is, AL learned much from trying to figure out BB, and the inspiring _Forever Changes_ is proof.
mtut 7 months ago
@Stucifer not after LOVE played
ragingbull888 2 months ago
@Stucifer Burt hated it,,,,,prolly cuz Love did such a kick azz version of it. ♥ Arthur Lee RIP♥
NoRosesForMe 1 month ago
@Stucifer Yes.
peterzang 1 week ago
Great clip
tonyobrien68 9 months ago
@tonyobrien68 Thanks.
HarryLimePresents 9 months ago
Glad you like it.
HarryLimePresents 9 months ago
Love rocked this song... I love it!
claygar310 9 months ago
@Khultan
No problem here, mate.
HarryLimePresents 9 months ago
Thanks, HarryLimePresents, for uploading this and for not blocking me, I've been blocked by AmericanPunkGarage for reasons I cannot recall if I ever offended that Youtube member. It's really strange how the music he's got are of the 60s, which by his attitude towards me is subversive.
Khultan 9 months ago
I have to disagree. Both versions are good.
HarryLimePresents 10 months ago
the manfred mann version is for dweebs. people that probably went to see "mama mia".
pclinn 10 months ago
Manfred Mann did an excellent job with this Burt Bacharach song, very clean and accurate but "Love" gave it some force. I like both versions.
HarryLimePresents 10 months ago
This is so weak compared to the original by Manfred Mann...cannot believe anyone would prefer this thin version
RockersonBwaySandy 10 months ago
It's my pleasure :-)
HarryLimePresents 10 months ago
Love this song, thanks for posting.
mellowsky47 10 months ago
Great, mostly underrated group. Great song, but they didn't exactly break the bank on a drum set, did they? Don't think I've ever seen a group with such a sparse drum set-up, but it was the perfect sound for this particular song. The drumming was way different on "7 and 7 Is".
125jlm 1 year ago
@125jlm From everything I know about the band Snoopy wasn't much of a drummer anyway. I think Arthur played drums on "7 &7 Is". Snoopy eventually moved to keyboards. Check out the action at the 2:13 mark- I think he actually had more drums than he could handle, haha.
kidcharlemagne76 1 year ago
@kidcharlemagne76 You're right that Snoopy wasn't real comfortable, or real good, on drums and switched to keyboards. But it's interesting that a pretty heavy-duty group such as this made it to this level, national television, with such a weak drummer. Of course, Ringo wasn't exactly Gene Krupa either but he was better than this.
125jlm 1 year ago
Hey kbobot2,
Thanks for the suggestions.
HarryLimePresents 1 year ago
Like this? Check out The Moving Sidewalks, 13th Floor Elevators, The Bubble Puppy.....
kbobot2 1 year ago
2/04/2011 Can anyone recall any other groups of the time period, in which the bass player also used an EKO violin shaped bass, (besides thte Grass Roots, The Seeds, & The Music Machine) ??I had one too, but someone stole it from me! Send your reply via mssg. on my channel, if U know. FROM ME TO YOU hkyoutoob
hkyoutoob 1 year ago
The most innovative American band of the 60's. Arthur Lee was a force, man.
Pumper4 1 year ago
Amazing
benfrombackwhen 1 year ago
@benfrombackwhen
Thanks for your comment.
HarryLimePresents 1 year ago
Never got their just do. Blew us away back then.
craniuman 1 year ago
Reading the new Arthur Lee biography. The band thought Dick Clark was a big phony when they went on this show.
jlovebirch 1 year ago
MacLean looks just like Brian Jones in this.
skeletonkey6 1 year ago